Owners Of $4M Millennium Tower Apartment Detect Tilt With A Marble
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- Опубликовано: 31 окт 2016
- A couple owning a $4 million apartment in the Millennium Tower in San Francisco detect the tilt when they roll a marble. Joe Vazquez reports. (11/1/16)
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Side note: bring marbles if I ever have the ability to buy a high end condo.
Never buy a condo. You got to buy it and pay rent for life for something you will never own. All the liabilities are your problem tho
@@mikehunt545 what do you mean pay rent when you buy it?
@@yvesstocky9936 They don't call it rent usually a "maintenance fee." But you have to pay them hundreds or thousands every month forever, otherwise you will be evicted. That is in addition to the purchase price. Condos/hoa houses are bad deal for the "homeowner."
@@mikehunt545 What company does this if I may ask?
Wow, most low tech, yet most reliable instrument ever.
It's safe until it falls over.
Right
That's the route they're taking. Theyll delay until you forget, then start burning evidence..
True. Everything is until it isn’t.
I figure living in the Millennium Tower now is the equivalent of being on the Titanic 15-20 minutes after it hit the iceberg.
what a stupid comment
“Is Dave still on floor 6?”
“Nah, he dropped down to 4 two weeks ago.”
“At the Northwest side.” 🤣
Lol 😂
" Dave, ? "" Daves' not here ! "" He's gotten a job in the millenium building, levelling pool tables, on 49 floors. We don't expect to see him for a week, at least '' What ? no, i'm sorry, Daves' not availabe right now, he is stuck in the elevator, it is binding onto the building beside this one '''.
You couldn’t pay me to live in that 4 million dollar penthouse. After what we saw in Florida I pray and hope the structure gets the repairs and care it needs to sustain properly
I'd be getting the hell outta there right NOW. I wouldn't wait another day. The farther it leans the more the weight of the building goes off center and the faster it will lean and you have no idea at what point it'll topple over. Shit. After that tragedy in Florida. I wouldn't be taking any chances. And this thing will be a thousand times worse
You don't want to live in the perfectly good building just to the north west either.
Apparently not
Good point.
MORE: google HARMON BUILDING in Las Vegas, same thing as here, BUT THEY 'WOKE UP' , BECAME HUMBLED, THEN TOOK IT APART, FLOOR BY FLOOR. NOW, its a parking lot. some business guy built a mall, from what i understand.....
How could you sleep at night knowing that at anytime there might be an earthquake
There are earthquakes here all the time, it's the BIG earthquakes you have to worry about.
PS. In the last BIG earthquake, it was the fires it caused that ultimately destroyed most of the city.
Personally I'm more afraid of a massive flood, like the dam breaking, or or a hurricane. Blizzards suck too.
simple. Don't live there
Crazy we are six years past this story and all we have is that the building is still leaning.
$4 million for an apartment? better come with gold toilet paper and a full cleaning crew.
for broke mexicans like you, of course you think that way but 4 million isn't expensive.
PEN15...Really?
I am fuckin dead it actually not expensive majority of people that live in San Francisco are people who work for big tech companies or are businesses people
Ultra Downy expensive is subjective.
There's a Ranch near here that is really big, it's nice, it cost 1M
Interesting to see the history of the slow motion collapse, their marble clip is frequently shown in reports. I hope the guys being interviewed were able to move out.
They were :) in another video posted recently (about the same time as ur comment) by this same channel they interviewed Andrew again and make mention of the marble video.
$4M for an apartment...they got robbed.
Samwise Drogod you could get 400 acres and a house in texas with that
John E You could get 500 acres and an absolute mansion in Virginia for $4million
Heck in some parts of Virginia you could buy most of a mountain top and put a giant house on it for that much
Xplocial OnlineNetworking You realize the building is going to fall over in the next 10 years
Xplocial OnlineNetworking Engineers are saying it will continue to sink until it becomes unsafe. Disaster waiting to happen. Especially being built on a fault line
Yeah, I'm sure these guys would love to move to rural Virginia...
4 million for an apartment? There's one born every minute, in this case 2.
There's an ass for every seat
Seeing as how your apartment is pretty much worthless I'm willing to trade you two for my 79 ford van. It's a little old and rusty but you won't have to worry about it falling over while you sleep. So do we have a deal?
Russ G made me lol out loud.
+Russ G shit stains everywhere ....
Russ G. You ASSHOLES no pun intended
It should withstand a magnitude 8 earthquake so they should really consider it.
Wow. You were really onto something. Champlain South should scare the Hell out of these residents.
Just moved to Florida, my wife and I have been looking at condos. Not anymore! After Surfside, you couldn't get me in anything over 3 stories!
I don't blame you. After an earthquake in my city last year brought sections of the 105 year old building we were in tumbling down I'm sticking with our two story duplex now!
You do what you want, but it's not about height. It's engineering properly done. The Empire State building *_withstood_* an airplane impact _YEARS_ ago.
@@WillBravoNotEvil yes, but if it's been engineered poorly I'd rather be in a structure that's much less likely to collapse. I don't think a poorly-engineered house is going to come crashing down like a highrise could.
@@kimberlysevastyanenko3798 Well, yeah, but I just don't you living in fear. I'm a 4th gen home builder (semi-retired) and you're right, you won't likely die from a 2 story collapse. But I lived through the Oakland 🔥 AND the freeway collapse. My point is stuff's gonna happen, and you can't outrun a grizzly bear but bear spray works really really well. 😁
@@WillBravoNotEvil yes, and living in a structure that isn't as likely to kill me is my '"bear spray" 😉
They need to tear down the whole damn thing and put it back up correct at no cost to the residents and compensate the residents for loss of use. What a bunch of lying crooks.
the company will file bankruptcy and walk before they will do that
I live on the East Coast and the Building I worked in was High Rise and it would sway all day long and you could actually feel it. They brought in four different independent engineers and they said it has to do this like a shock absorber on a vehicle.
My thoughts exactly..
nobody can pay for the that. the developer didn't have the money to build it at first. they got a loan for a bank and then pay it back with interest. Nobody can afford a demo and rebuild without financing it.
@@williamhaynes7089 Correct. They'll file bankrupcy and the taxpayer will foot the bill for the tear down.
It remains “SAFE” until it collapses
Marble sales since this video came out 📈
Good thing they had all those inspections and building codes to prevent this from happening.
😂😂😂
The word corruption comes to mind. That's what happened with the condo collapse in Florida.
Oddly enough they did stopped it from happening but let it slide...
I have already said they hung all the awards the building received on one side of the building and the rest was bound to follow. It is probably a good rule of thumb nowadays to avoid any project announcing itself as award winning whenever possible especially when we are talking about gongs handed out between architects amongst themselves. I see so many buildings where as long as it gets up and looks magnificent the subsequence ruin of anyone trying to keep it upright and weatherproof is of absolutely no concern to the designer long gone. I expect they dish awards out quickly before the maintenance nightmares factor in.
All the inspections and building codes are worthless if the original design is flawed and nobody calls them on it. This was just basic greed. Cheaping out by not putting supports all the way to bedrock may have saved the developer a few million dollars (which went straight into their pockets) but now I hope it costs them a Hell of a lot more. That is if it can be fixed at all.
Hold on.....I predict it will triple in value when it get to 65 degrees
Who knew Robert Redford and Richard Dreyfus are a couple?! 😂👍🏼
oh...come on...we all saw when they did that one movie.
The 32 floor Ocean Tower condo building on South Padre Island Texas had their same problem with foundation settling and it had to be demolished with explosives.The Millennium Tower is unfixable and it will eventually have to be demolished probably taken down on floor at a time.
Look up Turnagain Heights, 1964. See what happens when you build on that kind of land.
David Lafleche they didn’t build it to bedrock that’s why.
@@californiamade5608 MILLENIUM TOWER info : Geophysicist Tom Parsons
For comparison purposes:
FACTS One General Electric 4400 hp locomotive, fully fuelled weighs around 430,000 pounds. IT WOULD TAKE 1,595.4 of these to weigh the same amount. (my statement)
STUDY THIS: > >>Tom Parsons: > >> The Millennium Tower may be the most recognizable sinking building in the city, but one researcher says earth-based and space-based observations confirm the entire downtown area around it is sinking as well. “I looked at every building in the Bay Area, so just under a million buildings,” said U.S Geological Survey research geophysicist Tom Parsons, who estimates that over the last century, 3.5 trillion pounds of development and human activity - including the subsidence tied to loss of groundwater -- have led to an estimated settlement of three inches across the entire Bay Area. “Clearly, the most density and the tallest buildings are centered in that downtown San Francisco area, and that's where we see the most calculated cumulative settlement from all of those buildings together," he said. Turns out that at an estimated 686 million pounds, the Millennium Tower is the third heaviest building in the city. The top nine all weigh more than 300-million pounds, but the only one that’s leaning significantly is the Millennium. Groundwater loss from adjacent construction has been blamed for the problem by the tower’s developers, while geotechnical experts say the key is that its foundation is not rooted in bedrock. “The Millennium Tower’s an unusual example of tilt, but generally they go down vertically,” said Parsons, who has long studied the stresses that build up on the earth’s crust. He says all the buildings downtown likely weigh enough to exert sufficient downward force to influence an earthquake fault. Fortunately, the San Andreas fault runs offshore before it reaches the city. So, he says, the billions of extra pounds will not likely have seismic implications. Still, the mass of sinking buildings shows up clearly in yellow in enhanced images captured by the European Space Agencys' Sentinel 1 satellite.
I'd have marble races. I bet this answered some of their questions like, why did the tomato roll off the counter, or, why does our adopted baby roll to the east corner of our apartment all the time after we lay him down on the floor?
Have a nice Dave LMAO!!
Have a nice Dave. Yeah, odd how the baby keeps rolling into that corner.
It would be great for a home putting green. You putt and the ball comes back to you. What is there not to like?
4 Million for an Apartment! Have you lost your Marbles 😎
Richard Myhan Yes, you'll find them in the north east corner.
west
@@annastarr2043 Right on, only its the northwest/west corner. Leaning that way,,.....and away we go....on our LAST circus RIDE TO DEATH.
When that building goes down in an earthquake it's going to be a domino effect I would be a little nervous being the neighbor
I wonder how the owners of this Tower feel now?..
@@-Anthony- that’s for sure!
They are all white. Blacks cant afford this
@@dukeworthington483 🤷♂️
@@dukeworthington483 and Chinese billionaires
No way would I pay $4 million for a unit in Downtown Frisco. For that much money I would buy a mansion in the Berkeley hills.
I'd buy a ranch house, and retire on the rest.
I second the ranch house one. Get some horses too, and just chill. Enjoy the nature.
Some people like living in a urban area. Whether it's in SF or in Manhattan. It's a different attitude and vibe.
That’s you. Some people prefer city life.
Only trailer trash calls it frisco.
No one ever talks about who is at fault and the blame should be going to DeSimone Consulting Engineers, who were the structural engineers for this building. To say they did a piss poor job would be a gross understatement.
The floor is not the only tilted thing in that place !
Those buildings around the Tower are in the greatest danger.
exactly, sell before to late
So.................it is leaning to the left! Sorry, but too funny.
Bill Butler LMAO!!
Bill *Butler* LUL
I live in a 100 year old house in Boston. All of our houses have major leans - anything that rolls (marbles, balls, desk chairs) roll towards the stair wells.
I thought they intentionally slope all concrete floors in high rise buildings away from the elevator shafts so that if there was a flood the water would leak onto the window walls because there’s less mitigation and damage when leaking onto the facade.
Moral of the story: do the ball-bearing test before you plunk down $4 million for a high-rise condo in San Francisco.
In 2016 Owners Of $4M Millennium Tower Apartment Detect Tilt With A Marble. In 2022 the same owners of -$4M- $1.5M Millennium Tower Apartment Detect Tilt With A Bowl Ball.
Im 87 but remember playing marbles in my friends old crooked frame house where we'd roll marbles down a linolium floored hallway and have them return automatically . That was in the mid 1940s (during the big war) , and the old house is still occupied today at 110 Rose st . In the historical "Fruit Belt" area Bflo . So stop worrying about a little tilt and use it to your advantage and play marbles . lol !!
Just funn'in you ofcourse . Sure something to be concerned about . I wouldnt enjoy being in that situation . Keep us updated . Thanks .
Hollywood should make a movie about a tower like this falling. Open up the movie with unsupecting people going about thier business before it falls.
I wouldnt even dare to film an interview there...
That's why your order inspection before buying!!! "It remains safe", don't worry. The longer it stands the more confidence we get.
It's completely safe until it's not.
So just sit tight for now and when it's no longer safe, get out!
But dont worry, it's fine. Totally safe.
The building needs to be torn down and a safer building put in its' place, or just make the area a Park.
I feel for ALL those who perished at Surfside
4 million bucks for an apartment ?!!
LOL
" A fool and his money are soon parted "
They didn't get much for their money.
Who wants to live in an expensive congested city.
I'm sure that wasn't all their money
Anyone with $4 million is smart enough to be spending other people's money.
'Yeah, let's spend 4m on an apartment in a high-rise, because it's not as though San Francisco is known for earthquakes or anything!'
Well, if a tower is built right, earthquakes should not be a problem. Look at Tokyo. That said, what's key is *if a tower is built right*.
@@WorldsMostBoringVideos Nothing beats mother nature ... nothing!
the interior of that apartment does not look like anything that should cost 4 mil, not even close.
stanleycoleman liberal shit holes always cost way to much. 4 million would buy you an absolute mansion in most conservative states
PracticalTacticalSheepdog
I wonder why these guys wouldn't want to move to rural, conservative states.... Hmmmm
Jared F hahahaha we dont want them or any other liberals here... all you people bring is debt corruption and crime.
It's just typical ugly modern design, that's all.
It's more of the location, it's downtown San Francisco.
It's really expensive to live there.
A 2' lean would not be detectable with a marble. The floor would only be out of level by 0.18 degrees. The most likely reason the marble rolls like that is because the concrete wasn't leveled properly when poured.
IN MY HOME
MY MARBLES ARE ALWAYS ROLLING AROUND.
one slight tremor and that building is going down
The bridge will hold it up
I couldn't sleep in a condo that was leaning so much in an earthquake prone area.
This would make for a great movie, same situations people around the building going to school going to work shopping nobody believing it would fall and it does... I have quite an imagination but would see a movie like this.
"The Tottering Inferno" ?
It's been shown that people like watching train wrecks.
stay tuned, for more to come......in the on-going tower fiasco........'' watch it live, from a ballon 1,000 feet up, in abou 2 years or so......"" or from a DRONE-CAM.....
And the building's collapse triggers a tectonic slip and lava spews out of the San Andreas fault and the nuclear power plant blows up and nuns and children get trapped and and...
Sorry, suddenly came over all '70s there. I do apologise.
Sort like all those fire movies made in the 70's, like The Towering Inferno, etc. There was a bunch of movies like that. I never actually saw that movie. My favorite was the ship that sunk and the people lived on it for ever. Or the bee swarming movie about the killer bees that were suppose to happen.
If it's foundations are established only in sand, then what happens in an earthquake with liquifaction?
I wouldn't be in that damn thing right now. The further it leans the faster it will lean. I wonder what the tipping point is when it has went far enough that the whole thing topples over?
Edit And I wouldn't be in the buildings around it either. Especially the ones in its path if it falls. Or, even the ones on the other side. There's no telling what the collateral damage will be if it tips over. It will be a ground shaker for sure.
leaning west nortwest/north ....toward freemont and the other ? avenue....
"we were shocked, very surprised, because we don't feel anything". Exactly. If it takes a marble on a floor to demonstrate this but you don't notice it otherwise then it obviously doesn't affect your living in the apartment. Once people start falling out of bed overnight, now you've got a story!
You will see sewage running the wrong way before you feel like you will fall out of bed. I heard from another video that some residents in that tower are having to use drain cleaner to get the sludge to leave the pipe.
lmao
I was pissed with my lemon Tesla. Imagine getting a lemon $4 million condo that's worth nothing in the open market
I wonder how much faster that marble would roll today.
That's what they said to the people in Champlain, your sinking etc but your safe, yeah right! Get the hell out of there, if folks don't respect you enough to put your safety above their profits then you can't trust anything they say, put your safety above their greed before it's to late
I wonder what the vacancy rates are in adjacent buildings if God forbid it were to fall.
No matter what is done , it will fall eventually
This is like that scene in Titanic with Lovejoy and the bullet on the table when Jack was held prisoner
How does a news station advertise this as evidence? A number of factors could cause a marble to favor a direction in a building
I was thinking the same thing Mr Ross. The marble could variate because the flooring may not be 100% evenly installed. Slight variations in glue can move a small marble. A larger one would be better suited.
The building can shift around in the wind when the marble is set free. No constant in that motion. A more reliable test I would think is to set/glue a wooden 24" stick on a counter. (It doesn't matter if the counter is level or not, you can adjust that later). Then on 2 90deg angles approx 5 inches out from the top glue 2 sticks to support 2 hanging strings with weights on the end. (to simulate plumb).
(You can somehow fashion some metal rings farther down to limit the movement of the plumbs). Then observe how the plumbs move around. You might need a 3rd or 4th string/plumb. Depending on the wind/movement etc you might need a taller stick.
Now you can properly evaluate what the condo's lean is. I figure its just a cheap way (and more accurate) movement of the condo than a loose marble wandering about with no guidance.
If it was me up in the penthouse?? I would constantly wear a parachute and a firearm to shoot out any window should anything happen. But that's just me being paranoid.
i wouldn't be sitting on the 50th floor of that building rolling marbles - i'd be packing my bags and cutting my loses before the building falls ..
You don't need a marble. Everything in San Fran leans left.
I wouldn't pay 4 millions for a leaning apartment
I don't have any sinking feeling about this
The structural engineer should be held responsible
How can they sleep at night?
I couldn’t sleep at night in those apartments
It will survive 8.0+, 😳 I hope they don’t have to experience that because not so sure what can survive an 8.0 + earthquake.
How fitting. The tower meant to symbolize SF's future is leaning so far left that it is in danger of fully collapsing.
Just... poetic.
So is buying a $4 million dollar apartment... LMAO
It's only safe..untill it collapses🤔
The windows are breaking, glass is reining down, it’s only a matter of time before someone below gets hurt or killed.
Are we just glancing over the fact that these people paid $4 million dollars for a box?
The world we live in these days man $4 million dollars doesn't buy anything anymore.
Now that's using your marbles.
FOUR MILLION dollars! They’re NUTS!!!
Any time the terms "professional, expert, safe" are used----vacate the building.
Attach a fish scale to the ground and building. It will hold it up while measuring the force of gravity.
Why did you bring up them being married?
YET JET FUEL MELTS STEEL BEAMS
XxFoxMotoX3xX this building is concrete only with a floating Foundation no steel superstructure at all
GEE.....WHAT A CUTE COUPLE !!!
Hire EVERY architect in town.
Spend whatever millions are being spent.
N O T H I N G done by man will have ANY effect.
The building WILL collapse!
I would not have to be told to move. Some people are just so numb
And sadly, no one will go to jail
No-one ever does.
It will withstand an 8.0 earthquake. On it's Side! Maybe the other buildings will help prop it up.
let this be a lesson to developers
I'd be too nervous to be there...
Hi, I am from the future. 4 years from now, the tilt of the leaning tower will level out the pipes inside to cause raw sewage going upward. You should have sold your property now but I guess you have decided to stick around and cross your heart. I am afraid your decision now have made you regret for the next 4 years (at least)😣
This aged well. Good luck millionaires 🖕.
Who is Looney enough to continue to live in this doomed building ?
4 MILLION DOLLARS!!! lmao
It's very save as long it doesn't fall over
Its only safe until it collapses
Married coupe? What is going on?
C’mon, the tower’s building company’s CEOs said their tower was sound and built to code, and then swore knowing how to correct its sinking…
Ah ha, the old marble trick.
Sinking and safe ...the building supervisor say this while living on ground level home in Arizona make them live there ..after a few days
Refunds would probably start... hope the 2 queen's move out .. lmao 🤣
People will say anything if you pay them enough or if they are rich enough. No more humanitarianism.and civility.only the greenback dollar matters to the average person.
You couldn't pay me to live there...🤦♀️
I prefer Lake Front Property. I got 10 acres in Tennessee Carroll county
Imagine choosing to live up there when you have $4 million to spend! I suppose they have other property elsewhere tho if they're that rich
That leaning building is the least of your problems.
These people responsible for this building are so arrogant. I don’t want to imagine the amount of tragedy and fear that will happen when this collapses….
I use to life on Collins av 5313 the amethyst condo 12 years ago ....
These people are crazy, I wouldn't stay and complaine, just like these people.
Of course they don't want to say it's not safe, people will move out, who wants to refund 4 mill