Why Was This Prisoner Kept Locked Away In Permanent TOTAL Isolation

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @TheInfographicsShow
    @TheInfographicsShow  5 лет назад +4692

    Should he have been given an option to take the death penalty?

    • @debbiehf05
      @debbiehf05 5 лет назад +452

      No because that is the easy way out. He did a bad deed, so it would be more of a punishment to stay locked up. And he definitely deserves the worst punishments.

    • @RelaxwithSeizure
      @RelaxwithSeizure 5 лет назад +230

      He's already dead, do some research. Died almost two months ago.

    • @donjangabriel736
      @donjangabriel736 5 лет назад +39

      Yes

    • @Mydogismarley
      @Mydogismarley 5 лет назад +63

      Relax with Seizure they mean before he died

    • @kauan5684
      @kauan5684 5 лет назад +11

      Relax with Seizure yeah a simple google search would of shown he died may 11th

  • @williamvii7378
    @williamvii7378 5 лет назад +9722

    He's already dead he died on May 11, 2019. He was 67 years old when he died.

    • @Anastasia-eu5mj
      @Anastasia-eu5mj 5 лет назад +434

      Well oof he died on my dads birthday o-o

    • @lakera6860
      @lakera6860 5 лет назад +207

      @@Anastasia-eu5mj that's my mom's birthday too and a day before mine

    • @Anastasia-eu5mj
      @Anastasia-eu5mj 5 лет назад +187

      @LaKera
      Like, you’re celebrating and this dude is dying and u don’t even know -0-

    • @Deadbass_
      @Deadbass_ 5 лет назад +96

      @Nadeem Mostafa google

    • @doyouseeafloatingsandwich4301
      @doyouseeafloatingsandwich4301 5 лет назад +151

      @@Anastasia-eu5mj but can we talk about your username? 🤔

  • @acnoah410
    @acnoah410 5 лет назад +5461

    It all started with the bullying....

    • @ludmilasierra2508
      @ludmilasierra2508 5 лет назад +99

      Yup

    • @kentoooooooooooooooooooooooooo
      @kentoooooooooooooooooooooooooo 5 лет назад +89

      AGREED

    • @Anthony-nb1xw
      @Anthony-nb1xw 5 лет назад +196

      Just Noah no it all starts with people victimizing killers. It is easy to be a killer when society says it isn’t your fault.

    • @gorillaguerillaDK
      @gorillaguerillaDK 5 лет назад +228

      lil T
      No one says it wasn't his fault he killed people - we're talking about the conditions that help create the kind of person who do these things!
      And yes, bullying is part of it!
      That doesn't mean he's innocent of the crimes he did......

    • @justacommonegg3714
      @justacommonegg3714 5 лет назад +43

      @@gorillaguerillaDK He literally killed 3 prisioners and who knows many guards, I dont think bullying was the main reason to commit those type of things.

  • @maeglo123
    @maeglo123 5 лет назад +2171

    Dam 2 life sentences double life less gooo

    • @kittenmimi5326
      @kittenmimi5326 5 лет назад +18

      Why are you confused lol

    • @dakotadirig7562
      @dakotadirig7562 5 лет назад +86

      @@kittenmimi5326 because, adding one life sentence on top of another one is useless, as he will never live to see the 2nd life sentence, hence the name "life sentence"

    • @kittenmimi5326
      @kittenmimi5326 5 лет назад +112

      @@dakotadirig7562 coz with 1 life sentence after some years the prisoner could be eligible for parole so they get released early, but with 2 or more maybe it takes much longer for them to be eligible for parole or they might not be able to get a chance at all. But this person probably should never get one anyway.

    • @dakotadirig7562
      @dakotadirig7562 5 лет назад +13

      @@kittenmimi5326 aw, thanks

    • @kennethwells3536
      @kennethwells3536 5 лет назад +5

      He should have been given the death sentences by then.

  • @bazookacantgame
    @bazookacantgame 5 лет назад +3756

    Don't know about you all but I'd much rather be executed then spend 40-50 it years rotting away in a prison cell

    • @deadpicklechinahboi4777
      @deadpicklechinahboi4777 5 лет назад +158

      Same, that really messes with you

    • @Xlr8t
      @Xlr8t 5 лет назад +128

      Remember they are trying to punish him! So they would do something messed up obviously

    • @avkn.flames7346
      @avkn.flames7346 5 лет назад +6

      Me too.

    • @Rob-uc8zr
      @Rob-uc8zr 5 лет назад +69

      easy to say until you're actually facing death

    • @okaytrash6311
      @okaytrash6311 5 лет назад +19

      honestly same, i would probably go insane better to just die then deal with 40 to 50 yrs of mental torture

  • @zuko1569
    @zuko1569 5 лет назад +2227

    1:03 Death -Note- Wall. He's dangerous
    He should play Minecraft single player mode. Mining alone is true isolation.

  • @doodlium2093
    @doodlium2093 5 лет назад +3058

    Man: starts eating brains
    His mom: It's cuz of that fricking Phone

    • @starrysky3912
      @starrysky3912 5 лет назад +17

      That made me laugh

    • @doodlium2093
      @doodlium2093 5 лет назад +8

      Starry Sky
      Well thank you

    • @aarona7025
      @aarona7025 5 лет назад +29

      Trump: No, it's because of violence in video games.

    • @doodlium2093
      @doodlium2093 5 лет назад +9

      @@aarona7025
      Sounds like something he would say

    • @mansfieldtigers1
      @mansfieldtigers1 5 лет назад +3

      Ok boomer!

  • @kitakizeinko8780
    @kitakizeinko8780 5 лет назад +1639

    I was about to say the system was biased towards him, but then I saw how he killed and stabbed ppl repeatedly without remorse, it's now clear why he was never released

    • @thecarwithinternetaccess7952
      @thecarwithinternetaccess7952 5 лет назад +15

      I’m so proud that you guys are anime. Respect.

    • @erikburzinski8248
      @erikburzinski8248 5 лет назад +59

      Yes he should not be released as he is a danger to the prison and to the public.
      however they should give him a computer and a VR head set along with internet that why he chould socializ with people in vr maybe stopping him from going more insane
      this whould also stop his isulation from being absolute and whould in my opinion stop it from being a crime against humanity.

    • @JohnSmith-qz6rd
      @JohnSmith-qz6rd 5 лет назад +5

      Automatically assuming the system is bias? Sounds reasonable....

    • @JohnSmith-qz6rd
      @JohnSmith-qz6rd 5 лет назад +41

      @@erikburzinski8248 why do you care? He deserves it

    • @erikburzinski8248
      @erikburzinski8248 5 лет назад +33

      @@JohnSmith-qz6rd NO ONE DESERVES TO BE TORTURED FOR LIFE NO MATTER WHAT THEY DID

  • @Donnyf3841
    @Donnyf3841 5 лет назад +1901

    The media is “prone to exaggeration at times”
    I’m sorry...AT TIMES??!!

    • @arttukettunen5757
      @arttukettunen5757 5 лет назад +81

      Social media is almost more trustworthy than the press at this point

    • @niles1492
      @niles1492 5 лет назад +5

      Are they really exaggerating him..... he's killed guards and inmates...

    • @aprofessionalgamer5355
      @aprofessionalgamer5355 5 лет назад +20

      Yeah dude, we are all dead in 12 years! CNN told me that, so it must be true!

    • @zeejustin6
      @zeejustin6 5 лет назад +1

      when did cnn say this?

    • @neilsiebenthal8696
      @neilsiebenthal8696 5 лет назад +8

      @@niles1492 he killed guards that where especially awful to him. Take a moment and think what they probably did to him. Then think if you would willingly keep letting it happen.

  • @lilraybakes5539
    @lilraybakes5539 5 лет назад +40

    Prison guards should have body cams like police. They absolutely need to be held accountable. At the same time it helps their innocence if they aren't in the wrong.

  • @hubbabubba1275
    @hubbabubba1275 5 лет назад +5141

    Bro imagine being that guy but was wrongly accused

    • @roberto33573
      @roberto33573 5 лет назад +126

      Rip

    • @kone2355
      @kone2355 5 лет назад +101

      Sad

    • @-hitman-9103
      @-hitman-9103 5 лет назад +113

      Yikes

    • @swy334
      @swy334 5 лет назад +230

      Not possible. Maybe after the first charge but not after many murders on different occasions. But I guess you're joking?

    • @Chris-wq3rw
      @Chris-wq3rw 5 лет назад +355

      @@swy334 'imagine'

  • @teclishighelf5787
    @teclishighelf5787 5 лет назад +182

    In an article he wrote a few years ago, Silverstein called solitary confinement "a slow constant peeling of the skin, stripping of the flesh, the nerve-wracking sound of water dripping from a leaky faucet in the still of the night while you're trying to sleep. Drip, drip, drip, the minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, years, constantly drip away with no end or relief in sight."
    This is what life in Canada is like.

  • @Jrez
    @Jrez 5 лет назад +898

    He's totally right, the US prison system is not in any sense meant for rehabilitation, but for pure retribution and profit.

    • @handcraftedd4780
      @handcraftedd4780 5 лет назад +103

      Jrezky well when you fail to rehabilitate the first time (when he served 4 years) then commits 3 more robberies, then stabs 3 guards and some prisoners over 20 times there’s a high chance you’re not getting rehabilitated

    • @nicholashodges201
      @nicholashodges201 5 лет назад +70

      @@handcraftedd4780 in order for one to fail at rehabilitation, there needs to be an attempt to rehabilitate the individual first. Our system is not built to do that, and the visible shows at such are just that, shows.
      For example the prisoner education programs which focused on educational tracks that a felon would Never be able to use outside of prison (such as CPA, teaching & other 4yr programs), instead of blue collar technical schooling that are guaranteed paths to employment regardless of criminal history.

    • @oakstrong1
      @oakstrong1 5 лет назад +29

      @@handcraftedd4780 Prisons are NOT REHABILITATION CENTRES, they are purely punitive in nature.
      A middle aged guy with a history much like this guy in the video, ( troubled childhood, armed robbery but nobody got hurt) was given bail and the probation office paid him to attend math, English and study skills classes, to get grades that would allow him further study. He was a likeable guy and we shared a table with him at lunch. Only one or two people knew he was wearing a tracker hidden by his trousers. But even though he was enthusiastic about learning, he struggled with the study and the pressure was mounting until it became too much: he ended up drinking one night and had a fight with the nightclub owner, threatened him with a knife. That's the version I got from a newspaper, he claims he felt threatened and was defending himself. Naturally, with his background he got the blame (whatever the truth is). If only he had the right support he might have pulled tbrough. I had a funny feeling I should have called to reassure him about study and help him not to drink, but his wife / girlfriend wasn't very receptive for him to have female friends, so I decided to wait for the following week when I would see him in the class. He never came and now he will start serving a 12 year sentence.
      The guy in video surely had mental health issues from the bullying and string of fathers, maybe lack of motherly love, but with therapy and supportive / positive environment he might have been able to turn his life around. Instead, what happened to him in prison was just a continuation of his childhood bullying to which he reacted the o my way he knew how; the way his mother had taught: an eye for an eye... Whatever this guy did, it was the society that failed him and for that he didn't deserve torture: long term isolation, deprivation of stimulus and lights on 24/7. And other forms of torture he indicated.

    • @ZenuxProduction
      @ZenuxProduction 5 лет назад

      Claptrap Claptrap Actually those are prison rules

    • @oakstrong1
      @oakstrong1 5 лет назад +7

      @@ZenuxProduction Yes, but that doesn't make them right, and too often the rules are broken or the rules of conduct are not followed. For example, bullying is not sanctioned in any institutions rules, buy it happens in all because of lack of monitoring and because institutions attract bullies. Plus all normal people are hard wired to behave like in the Stanford prison guard experiment. (There are other experiments to show the same behaviour of conformity in more gentle situations, like the surgery waiting room one)

  • @michealarchangel637
    @michealarchangel637 5 лет назад +535

    If he has a life sentence then prison is no longer their to rehabilitate him, its their to keep him away from society.

    • @williamharrison787
      @williamharrison787 5 лет назад +13

      Exactly

    • @peterb8904
      @peterb8904 5 лет назад +36

      You assume US prisons wants them to be rehabilitated they want them to come back so they can get more money

    • @zoeystewart2310
      @zoeystewart2310 5 лет назад +38

      @@peterb8904 Even if so, he murdered three people. There's no reason he should have gotten out if he was still alive.

    • @mondaysinsanity8193
      @mondaysinsanity8193 5 лет назад +27

      If you aren't gonna rehabilitate them death sentence otherwise it's just torture and making them worse and worse with ths added risk an already violent person tortured for decades escapes

    • @dexieleighyan2625
      @dexieleighyan2625 5 лет назад +10

      @@mondaysinsanity8193 true... violent and aggressive people paired with insanity are scary.

  • @JoocyPump
    @JoocyPump 4 года назад +355

    "dude, you can't just leave me completely isolated from other people, it's barbaric!"
    - dude who violently stabs people whenever he gets the chance

    • @maknyc1539
      @maknyc1539 4 года назад +13

      he probably only killed people because he went insane in prison for so long

    • @MyRegardsToTheDodo
      @MyRegardsToTheDodo 4 года назад +30

      @@maknyc1539 Uhm, not really. He went to prison for armed robbery, then started killing people, then was isolated.

    • @darkfox7952
      @darkfox7952 4 года назад +7

      The only reason he killed those people was because he was terribly abused by his father and the people he killed were predators and child albusers

    • @satoril928
      @satoril928 4 года назад +11

      @@darkfox7952 you obviously didn't watch the video

    • @CaptMorpheusZ
      @CaptMorpheusZ 4 года назад +11

      @@satoril928 He never killed anyone untill he got into prison.
      Can't really say prison is the best for mental health.

  • @pugmygudboi
    @pugmygudboi 5 лет назад +390

    Silverstein has been dead for a month... google says... says he died on may 11
    Edit: wiki says that Colorado prisons told them he died of heart failure

    • @xanny650
      @xanny650 5 лет назад +3

      😎😎😎😎😎😎

    • @goatruso3198
      @goatruso3198 5 лет назад +1

      Nice.

    • @josefstalin8417
      @josefstalin8417 5 лет назад +3

      Hey wattup

    • @dam.5470
      @dam.5470 5 лет назад +1

      Are you a comunist?
      *Cuz I am*

    • @Jordan-gz8yi
      @Jordan-gz8yi 5 лет назад +4

      Imagine he's still alive and his death is a ruse so everybody forgets about him

  • @ineednothin6373
    @ineednothin6373 5 лет назад +1074

    He was cruel. But if you see it in another light he killed people who threatened his life or were mean to him. He in a way was protecting himself.

    • @bz.27k15
      @bz.27k15 5 лет назад +44

      i need nothin he killed prison guards

    • @bluupython5216
      @bluupython5216 5 лет назад +112

      This is the ideology of a prison system, treat the prisoner horrible or unjustly, make their life more terrible

    • @EpiklyTheFourth
      @EpiklyTheFourth 5 лет назад +18

      No way there innocence and he murdered them cuz he wanted revenge

    • @michaelklockner8539
      @michaelklockner8539 5 лет назад +111

      Treat prisoners like animals, they behave like animals. Treat prisoners like human beings and they behave like human beings.
      Ever wondered why german prisons were so chill?

    • @sandeshpatil3785
      @sandeshpatil3785 5 лет назад +29

      @@michaelklockner8539 why a person who commited horrible crime should be treated like human being anyway?

  • @st6084
    @st6084 4 года назад +87

    When you listen you can hear the "narrator" talking about horrible things then you just hear the cheerful music playing in the background

  • @cleverlesstv7724
    @cleverlesstv7724 5 лет назад +694

    In conclusion, a nice prison guard is a safe prison guard, even from the most violent prisoner

    • @nwykoff
      @nwykoff 5 лет назад +36

      in conclusion, you know nothing about real prison

    • @a2pabmb2
      @a2pabmb2 5 лет назад +85

      In conclusion, @@nwykoff touches little boys and will soon learn ALL about real prison.

    • @chazozochan6966
      @chazozochan6966 5 лет назад +1

      @@a2pabmb2 not nice :(

    • @ryanelkadi3196
      @ryanelkadi3196 5 лет назад +4

      a2pabmb2 how will he learn about real prison when he gets beaten up to death on his first day

    • @chazozochan6966
      @chazozochan6966 5 лет назад +1

      @@ryanelkadi3196 I would hug him

  • @josefherman9585
    @josefherman9585 5 лет назад +855

    They put a Jewish raised prisoner with a guard called Klutz? Of course it ended badly!

    • @jaranis9273
      @jaranis9273 5 лет назад +9

      Josef Herman HAHAHAHAHA

    • @rn-zu5ld
      @rn-zu5ld 5 лет назад +16

      At least it wasn't Herman gooering

    • @ronnnmmm
      @ronnnmmm 5 лет назад +8

      @siphosihle madondo germany

    • @cbookins
      @cbookins 5 лет назад +4

      @siphosihle madondo the holocaust??

    • @leahachase
      @leahachase 5 лет назад +18

      cbookins you’re not explaining it at all

  • @thetropicaldream5933
    @thetropicaldream5933 5 лет назад +231

    Not as isolated as Wilson... Wilson lost his friend at sea after falling of his raft while his friend was eventually found... unfortunately Wilson hasn't been seen since then.. still presumed to be alive.

    • @zacharyvibbert7613
      @zacharyvibbert7613 5 лет назад +2

      Rip wilson ( maybe )

    • @Piscuin99
      @Piscuin99 5 лет назад +9

      Are you talking about cast away???

    • @yourusualsevagoth863
      @yourusualsevagoth863 5 лет назад +18

      @@Piscuin99 no he's talking about Wilson.

    • @jimfincher1324
      @jimfincher1324 5 лет назад +8

      He changed his name to Bob Ber and has floating ever since...lol...

    • @jimfincher1324
      @jimfincher1324 5 лет назад +1

      @stoopid I don't care who you are!!!!!.....that was funny AF!

  • @uqasa
    @uqasa 5 лет назад +415

    He lost his humanity. Had several chances and decided to continue the violence. I think solitary confinement is a ok but the beatings and sadistic expressions of the administrators and guards is part of the issue too. So
    he kinda got what he deserved and more.

    • @elsielf
      @elsielf 5 лет назад

      yeah, that's true.

    • @TheTrueLDS
      @TheTrueLDS 5 лет назад +62

      uqasa and where do you think he lost his humanity?
      He was a kid, ignorant and probably more idiotic than most, but he was still a kid. And what did jail do to him? Rehabilitate him to become a productive, peaceful member of society? No. It taught him that you have to fight and hurt others to get the few comforts of life.
      This was a broken kid, who wasn’t taught any better. But the system was what turned him into a vile human being.

    • @Zombehnation1001
      @Zombehnation1001 5 лет назад +17

      Nobody chooses anything, you're conditioned by life to act how you do.

    • @j.2667
      @j.2667 5 лет назад +7

      @@5licK5killz190 you're so mad that you liked your own reaction

    • @ragnarokofborg
      @ragnarokofborg 5 лет назад +1

      @@TheTrueLDS > This was a broken kid, who wasn’t taught any better. But the system was what turned him into a vile human being.
      I haven't watched the video yet, but I wonder if this was (one of the) bases for the SVU episode "Solitary" (2009, 11x03)?

  • @theredghostman9279
    @theredghostman9279 5 лет назад +780

    Ironic he stabbed an officer 40 times and now has spent 40 years in isolation

  • @eterah
    @eterah 5 лет назад +242

    He died in May of 2019 just to let you all know so you don’t have to search it up

    • @unicornsparkleswirl7564
      @unicornsparkleswirl7564 5 лет назад +7

      He died when he was 67,he stabbed an inmate 67 times

    • @mandero6682
      @mandero6682 4 года назад

      friendly neighborhood pyro maniac. The hatred and rage the man held

  • @brentedwards8949
    @brentedwards8949 5 лет назад +426

    Hmmmmm I don't know what I was going to do if I had so much time alone in the prison especially in confinement.... And

  • @Yourlocalintern
    @Yourlocalintern 5 лет назад +281

    Silverstein: I am the most isolated prisoner
    Yoshie: Hold my miso soup.

    • @currysues
      @currysues 5 лет назад +11

      Yoshie Shiratori?

    • @Nacho-pw1qx
      @Nacho-pw1qx 4 года назад +5

      @@currysues look him up, dude escaped 4 prisons

    • @vKillingMoon3124
      @vKillingMoon3124 4 года назад +2

      Nacho that’s true he escaped prison and his last escape was underground LoL

    • @thejaydenandwilliamshow7769
      @thejaydenandwilliamshow7769 4 года назад +2

      scurry_away he’s a dude who escaped prison 4 times
      Yes, you heard that right
      *4* times

    • @smazelsp6423
      @smazelsp6423 4 года назад

      Yoshie: 味噌汁を握る

  • @rhem
    @rhem 5 лет назад +82

    The guard that was nice to him is smart

  • @vladoslav1243
    @vladoslav1243 5 лет назад +558

    Wait he was jewish and in gang called aryian brotherhood?

    • @hateislove3947
      @hateislove3947 5 лет назад +95

      Nope. Did you watch the beginning. He got the nane by her mothers marriage. He ain't jewish.

    • @56Tyskie
      @56Tyskie 4 года назад +9

      Not like it hasn't happened before in history.

    • @mytoesarecold5555
      @mytoesarecold5555 4 года назад +24

      B. W. - nope. 🤦🏻

    • @b.w.8104
      @b.w.8104 4 года назад +22

      @@mytoesarecold5555 hope you get a chance to find out.

    • @stanbeard3557
      @stanbeard3557 4 года назад +9

      B. W. I believe they hate each other, and ruthless towards each other lol. I highly doubt it’s one sided

  • @Noctifern
    @Noctifern 5 лет назад +36

    Imagine all of the sudden getting released after decades, it would seem like the world is futuristic, crazy

  • @matthewmckever2312
    @matthewmckever2312 2 года назад +13

    When I was 16 I did two and a half years. While there I did something called a good order and discipline which is 3 months isolation sleeping on a cardboard mattress on the floor waling up with mice, roaches and worse of all ants, I have a phobia of ants till this day.
    When I got out it took a week till I could speak properly. Isolation is inhumane I became a borderline sociopath. It's a miracle that I never went back.

    • @essennagerry
      @essennagerry Год назад +1

      I wish you all the best and I hope that you truly have full and complete healing for everything you need it for! ❤ May God bless you. He healed me from all of my wrongdoings and all that was done wrongly to me.

  • @United-Federation-of-Planets
    @United-Federation-of-Planets 5 лет назад +392

    how far youtube has fallen
    every 10 seconds, 15 - 30 seconds of ads Thanks RUclips 👍

    • @andrewsloman1985
      @andrewsloman1985 5 лет назад +6

      United Federation of Planets get RUclips red. It’s totally worth it. Never ever gonna be less ads

    • @anakawyker
      @anakawyker 5 лет назад +24

      I got no ad before the video or throughout the video whatsoever

    • @prasmitdevkota4251
      @prasmitdevkota4251 5 лет назад +2

      They want you to get RUclips Premium.

    • @AyushTH
      @AyushTH 5 лет назад

      No ad for me

    • @stefanblaga9986
      @stefanblaga9986 5 лет назад +3

      @@andrewsloman1985 imagine paying youtube JUST so you no longer pay ads. I'm guessing you're the kind of guy that would buy belle delphine's bath water.

  • @dwaynechaps5690
    @dwaynechaps5690 4 года назад +9

    There's no comprehending the mental torture that this guy endured. Complete isolation for 37 years... Unbelievable!

  • @canwetalkaboutthat6117
    @canwetalkaboutthat6117 4 года назад +64

    Bullying can change a person to have such hate in there hearts.

    • @TheRick517
      @TheRick517 3 года назад

      in THEIR hearts! Jesus Christ!

  • @Abby-up8yd
    @Abby-up8yd 5 лет назад +45

    Although Tom Silvertine did several horrendous acts, the cruel bullying, per say, up on him was equally horrendous and unjust. This, no matter what an inmate had done, will NOT allow them to become a better person, and based on Tom's stories, this shows that restoring the humanity in prisoners is not their goal

    • @twanvanderdonk2504
      @twanvanderdonk2504 5 лет назад +4

      Bullying is more horrendous than over 100 stabs (total) done to victims? You realise that he was just stabbing a dead body at that point? Not sure about you, but I think people like that can never be allowed back in society.

    • @kingofmystery1135
      @kingofmystery1135 5 лет назад +1

      He was bullied for being Jewish, when he was a KID. That kind of stuff messes with your head. The harassment from the guards only made it worse. He may have had the potential to be a normal person, but the way he was treated only made that light fade away. I can understand sending someone to prison for robbery, but when the guards act like some High school bully, instead of treating the inmates like a person, it will only make things worse.

    • @getsinged7631
      @getsinged7631 5 лет назад +1

      @@kingofmystery1135 Just because he said the guards treated him that way, that doesn't necessarily mean it's true. History is written by the victor, and as the killer and not the killed, he is the only one who gets to tell a story. The people he murdered don't get to tell their side of the story, though official police investigations found that what he said was not true.

  • @user-vn7ce5ig1z
    @user-vn7ce5ig1z 5 лет назад +84

    You know what else is a crime against humanity? The actual _crimes_ that they did that landed them there in the first place. Sure, occasionally an innocent person is wrongly convicted, but they don't usually end up murdering a bunch of people in prison and getting thrown in solitary. The ones that do are the ones that are guilty. ¬_¬

    • @patrickholland901
      @patrickholland901 5 лет назад +3

      More than occasionally according to the Innocence project unfortunately!

    • @misakayy1911
      @misakayy1911 5 лет назад +14

      "THE PENAL SYSTEM IS NEVER WRONG EVER"
      ok

    • @TheWazzoGames
      @TheWazzoGames 3 года назад +2

      @@misakayy1911 clearly not in this case

    • @4ws_
      @4ws_ 2 года назад

      I disagree

  • @larsonb33
    @larsonb33 5 лет назад +12

    man i spent a week in solitary for a probation violation on a dui and i will tell you, i was hallucinating by the end. that type of punishment is in humain

  • @2Turnt7126
    @2Turnt7126 5 лет назад +478

    He sounds like Trevor from Grand Theft Auto 5

  • @chewjinghong
    @chewjinghong 5 лет назад +171

    Can you make a video about the bristling Robert “brain eater” maudsley that you mentioned in the beginning of this video?
    I’m interested to learn more about him!!

    • @rebecca8866
      @rebecca8866 5 лет назад +3

      Same!

    • @beruffakten3407
      @beruffakten3407 5 лет назад +1

      Me 2, i wanna eat human brain too

    • @itzeilou
      @itzeilou 5 лет назад +1

      @@beruffakten3407 oh no bristling Robert!

    • @E-Chap
      @E-Chap 5 лет назад +5

      I just looked him up. Maudsley was sent to prison for murdering a man who showed him pictures of all the children he molested. While in prison, Maudsley lured another convicted child molester into his cell and murdered him too.

  • @randomcrap7682
    @randomcrap7682 5 лет назад +96

    He died of a heart attack on may 11th 2019

  • @outofthenorm5087
    @outofthenorm5087 5 лет назад +320

    Although his crimes were quite heinous I feel that no single soul should have to go thorough what he did.
    That's inhumane man.
    Anyways...
    Have a great day everyone.

    • @sosman64
      @sosman64 5 лет назад +4

      Same To You OwO

    • @judocuh3064
      @judocuh3064 5 лет назад +31

      What he did and how he killed people was inhumane

    • @dreadwolf4927
      @dreadwolf4927 5 лет назад +21

      @@judocuh3064 he only killed idiots, and they deserved it.

    • @tjmodz5082
      @tjmodz5082 5 лет назад +9

      @@dreadwolf4927 Thats not true you gonna believe a murderer over a complete investigation the guard did nothing wrong muppet

    • @dreadwolf4927
      @dreadwolf4927 5 лет назад +20

      @@tjmodz5082 So naive.

  • @DerrekL
    @DerrekL 5 лет назад +73

    Could have just put him in death sentence...

    • @bobbysingh5666
      @bobbysingh5666 5 лет назад

      Derrek Luong yea I’m confused.

    • @b1ff
      @b1ff 5 лет назад

      9:32 he couldn't be given the death penalty.

    • @delcreme
      @delcreme 5 лет назад

      they didn't want to put him in a death sentence, that would just be ending his torture. they wanted to see him suffer.

  • @mumunist2580
    @mumunist2580 4 года назад +184

    “Aww hello son, let’s catch up!”
    *and rob a bank together*

    • @aidynsbestyoutubemoments
      @aidynsbestyoutubemoments 4 года назад +7

      Lol GTA logic

    • @russellbarbett997
      @russellbarbett997 4 года назад +1

      Some parents are the worst, and child pays the price.

    • @soniagutierrezquiroz5596
      @soniagutierrezquiroz5596 4 года назад

      When you ask me, the kid should've been left off the hook because he was 7 years old when he was abandoned by his biological parents and found that military man. The kid right now is in his early 20s still in prison, but he needs to get out. Its not his fault that his "Adopted Dad" brainwashed him and told him to do those things.

  • @mulder801
    @mulder801 5 лет назад +32

    well, idk, but stabbing people repeatedly is a pretty severe crime too

  • @fanelex3189
    @fanelex3189 5 лет назад +474

    He cursed in a Christian Minecraft server that’s why he went to solitary confinement.

  • @nicolasjlorenzo
    @nicolasjlorenzo 4 года назад +60

    Well if he wouldn’t have killed all those people he wouldn’t have been in solitary confinement 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @PungeonMon
      @PungeonMon 4 года назад +9

      He killed in prison but not outside
      That is questionable
      Is prison so bad that people turn mad? Maybe..

    • @leelizardwilcox6271
      @leelizardwilcox6271 4 года назад +3

      @@PungeonMon He killed to further the REACH OF A PRISON GANG he killed to help a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION

  • @ViolentKisses87
    @ViolentKisses87 5 лет назад +160

    Rehabilitate those you can, Execute those you can't.

    • @WShoup9818
      @WShoup9818 5 лет назад +6

      It was like that back than but now everyone tries to give the lightest punishment possible to avoid being to cruel or being called inhumane.

    • @picgmr1575
      @picgmr1575 5 лет назад +18

      The American penal system doesnt rehabilitate

    • @picgmr1575
      @picgmr1575 5 лет назад +1

      @@gorgthesalty exactly

    • @thraitor7819
      @thraitor7819 5 лет назад

      Dont execute full stop

    • @potatopaced2353
      @potatopaced2353 5 лет назад +1

      @@picgmr1575 Some prisons have programs for it

  • @skatedonut952
    @skatedonut952 4 года назад +72

    In Michigan we can’t have “super max” on correctional facility signs because the prisoners families get offended. They forget the prisoners have victims and there is a reason they are in a super max.

    • @MechWarrior894
      @MechWarrior894 4 года назад +3

      Ah yes, the 'tough love' approach. Guess it's hard to imagine yourself on the other side of the bars.

    • @daerdevvyl4314
      @daerdevvyl4314 4 года назад +4

      MechWarrior894 Yes, it is hard to imagine being in prison for a heinous crime. Because I don’t commit crimes. But I’m not sure what’s so “tough” about calling a prison supermax despite the offender’s families not liking it. If that’s as bad as it got, it wouldn’t be a deterrent against recidivism.

    • @chris-lf7on
      @chris-lf7on 4 года назад +5

      Whats so offensive about "super max", two of the most positive words in the english language.

    • @skatedonut952
      @skatedonut952 4 года назад +2

      MechWarrior894 if not breaking the law is hard then there would be no laws. These “people” have victims. The way of the liberal left give the criminal more rights than the victims deserve. You’re a sheep.

    • @lakelurker08
      @lakelurker08 4 года назад

      This comment and reply thread in a nutshell 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @BenReillySpydr1962
    @BenReillySpydr1962 5 лет назад +79

    Honestly his mom's story is perhaps the most interesting to me imo🤔

  • @jimbojackson4045
    @jimbojackson4045 5 лет назад +46

    He killed 4 ppl & that's his punishment?! That doesn't sound fair. There's no way there isn't someone more deserving of that out there

    • @mortonic2019
      @mortonic2019 5 лет назад +16

      True people that have done worse have got out in about 10 years

    • @CheaterMega
      @CheaterMega 5 лет назад

      @Thomas Foley he died 7 months ago lol

    • @CheaterMega
      @CheaterMega 5 лет назад

      @Thomas Foley agree

    • @David16180
      @David16180 5 лет назад +6

      Well he killed guards, and as we all know, a cops life is worth more than the lives of ordinary people.

  • @matthew4134
    @matthew4134 5 лет назад +84

    Are we not gonna talk about these poor people who got murdered sorry to there families

  • @Nik.No.K
    @Nik.No.K 5 лет назад +27

    I appreciate you guys looking at both sides of this. On the one hand obviously something has to be done if you’re killing guards but on the other the kind of isolation he’s being put through is just torture plain and simple. In general US prisons lean far too much in the direction of punishment as opposed to rehabilitation and the results (our recidivism rate) speak for themselves. Of course why would prisons care about rehabilitation when they’re getting paid for every prisoner they have? That’s the root of the problem.

    • @SinisterScoundrel6562
      @SinisterScoundrel6562 11 месяцев назад

      Until there's that one man who destroys 3/4 of the United States with interconnected time bombs, and causes the casualties of a millions cuz he's too disgruntled from his prison stay.

  • @zachcrawford5
    @zachcrawford5 5 лет назад +48

    He was really sick and they wouldn't say what is wrong or let his family visit him. That seems really suspicious. What did they really do to him in there?

    • @petarc8152
      @petarc8152 5 лет назад +9

      Guards probably tortured him

    • @YungEx_TheBest
      @YungEx_TheBest 5 лет назад +2

      Petar C Definitely tortured him, especially up north in Illinois, it’s bad up there😕

    • @elsielf
      @elsielf 5 лет назад +1

      welp I hope the guards die fast then

    • @YungEx_TheBest
      @YungEx_TheBest 5 лет назад +5

      Bleeart if you’re asking why he deserves it, he didn’t, it’s the thought process of an eye for an eye. If not then we’ll that’s your thought process

    • @jokerthegoat8937
      @jokerthegoat8937 5 лет назад +2

      Zach Crawford I don’t think the guards did anything to him, seems like isolation has just mentally destroyed him to the point where he is extremely unstable

  • @blizzbee
    @blizzbee 5 лет назад +156

    Plot twist: All the script of this episode is written by... Tom

  • @damnedcarrot
    @damnedcarrot 4 года назад +24

    The U.S.A really like to pick and choose which of their amendments are “sacred”. Cruel and unusual punishment is clearly not one of them.

  • @mr.personhumanson6871
    @mr.personhumanson6871 5 лет назад +108

    seems like the death penalty is more humane than this

    • @alcoholic402
      @alcoholic402 5 лет назад +1

      Honestly

    • @boredmad8484
      @boredmad8484 5 лет назад +1

      Agreed. Right to die with dignity.

    • @trevorlane2869
      @trevorlane2869 5 лет назад +7

      He doesn't deserve a humane death

    • @Polish2604
      @Polish2604 5 лет назад +8

      @@trevorlane2869 and that's up to you to decide? The prison system is meant to rehabilitate people so that they can re-enter society locking someone up for there entire life without seeing a single person for killing less than the common serial killer is just inhumane on many levels.

    • @adojaekey1031
      @adojaekey1031 5 лет назад +2

      @@Polish2604 no, the prison system is to ensure alleged offenders are brought to justice, and this is what he deserves

  • @peeeae
    @peeeae 5 лет назад +41

    He died on May 11, 2019
    Edit: okay just realized someone else commented this. I didnt steal their answer I just looked it up so no hate plz

  • @YeshuaAgapao
    @YeshuaAgapao 5 лет назад +21

    My dad worked his whole life at US BOP (bureau of prisons). Prison is for containment - keeping the criminals out of society. He mostly worked in medium security prisons.

    • @MorreGaming
      @MorreGaming 5 лет назад +1

      Thats cool man

    • @YeshuaAgapao
      @YeshuaAgapao 3 года назад

      @@dylanbutts1628 A containment doctrine can very well lead to additional criminalization because they are treated is incorrigible criminals that need to be locked away to begin with. Federal BOP there is rehab at minimum and low security and less rehab at medium security, but at high and max security, the doctrine is 100% containment (high may have some pre-release programs near end of sentence).

  • @Nonexistent_Music
    @Nonexistent_Music 5 лет назад +41

    *he’s already dead he died on May 11, 2019. he was 67 years old when he died*

    • @stan7715
      @stan7715 5 лет назад +1

      @Nadeem Mostafa it's called Google sir

    • @atticus4112
      @atticus4112 5 лет назад +1

      It was on may 11 not the 12th

    • @haihai9022
      @haihai9022 5 лет назад +2

      11*

    • @blackrooster8063
      @blackrooster8063 5 лет назад +1

      @Tim Burden Cool, you know how to steal comments.

  • @taventube2151
    @taventube2151 5 лет назад +15

    Using evil to destroy evil is not the right way

    • @YungEx_TheBest
      @YungEx_TheBest 5 лет назад +1

      Dartaven Fosnaugh sadly, people think that’s justified

  • @-izria-841
    @-izria-841 4 года назад +10

    This man went through quarantine but worse

  • @zaneyrxnf
    @zaneyrxnf 5 лет назад +735

    Hey person scrolling through the comments
    U HAVE A FANTASTIC DAY!🧡

    • @1eye1tear95
      @1eye1tear95 5 лет назад +5

      Kids don't break the law your all joking about it now and probably don't got the guts to even ask a girl out but when your in in jail or juvie the guards will abuse and beat you the left side of my stomach is paralyzed now

    • @Ok-cx4jw
      @Ok-cx4jw 5 лет назад +5

      U too also guy above me u need to chill and grab a cold glass of water

    • @rishi_1003
      @rishi_1003 5 лет назад

      @@1eye1tear95 Alright but what you smokin' ? Let me have some too

    • @robinthrill3r7
      @robinthrill3r7 5 лет назад

      U too

    • @frizzy9919
      @frizzy9919 5 лет назад +11

      Thanks cuz my dog that lived with us a long time while my mother was still studying so hes passed away today
      👇plz like true story im so sad today

  • @HappyTofu2424
    @HappyTofu2424 5 лет назад +26

    For the record, he died this year in May

  • @jerrywbrice
    @jerrywbrice 5 лет назад +2

    The animations of the cops are hilarious. Nice work!

  • @adolfhitler3870
    @adolfhitler3870 5 лет назад +76

    "If somone comes at u with a bat u grab ur bat and u go at it" that is the best quote ever
    But if ur never getting out then u might as well keep in killing what's the worst that can happen they put u in jail agian

    • @mimic4750
      @mimic4750 5 лет назад +2

      Smaller jail in a jail?

    • @visnau1126
      @visnau1126 5 лет назад +5

      no they put you in solitary

    • @niles1492
      @niles1492 5 лет назад

      You'll go to Solitary, slowly lose your sanity... u don't speak, or see anyone for months, or worse case years. *not sure about years* 😂

    • @adolfhitler3870
      @adolfhitler3870 5 лет назад

      @@gorgthesalty I used to take a tent my bow a knife and a lighter and I would spend a few weeks in the woods my recored so far is 2 months but it's not the solitude that makes u insane it's all the white

  • @anonymousperson3023
    @anonymousperson3023 5 лет назад +10

    4:31-4:58. How would you feel if that were you? I know the the justice system is messed up but, this... THIS IS JUST RIDICULOUS.

    • @vitorbravo5535
      @vitorbravo5535 5 лет назад +2

      Ask that to the people he killed

    • @anonymousperson3023
      @anonymousperson3023 5 лет назад

      @@vitorbravo5535 I meant why would you transfer another gang member to the same area where Silverstein is.

    • @michaelnorris3628
      @michaelnorris3628 5 лет назад +1

      @@anonymousperson3023 why would Silverstein even talk to that guy knowing he killed his soldier. Did he expect a hug?!??!

    • @Gregorio621
      @Gregorio621 5 лет назад +1

      @@michaelnorris3628 Why did it matter if he talked to the other guy or not? Are you really assuming the leader of the other gang wasn't gonna look for Silverstein?

  • @clarissamcpigeon7857
    @clarissamcpigeon7857 4 года назад +5

    The beginning of his story is EXACTLY like Charles Bronson.
    Bronson's first prison sentence was also for armed robbery (although he had a prior record for other crimes). He got seven years for that but it was his later conduct in prison which kept him inside for so long.

  • @jaka855
    @jaka855 5 лет назад +20

    He's already dead he died in May of 11 2019. He was 67 years old he died in lakewood,Colorado. Becuse of a hart failure. Now we know what was his diseases he had problems with his hart.

    • @r1co414
      @r1co414 5 лет назад

      Ikr I'm like confused as to how they didn't notice that

    • @kibbletibbleyt
      @kibbletibbleyt 5 лет назад

      ..
      heart**-

    • @peachymilkuwu8417
      @peachymilkuwu8417 5 лет назад +1

      It was probably felt made a while ago and that’s why they say at the beginning he might not even be alive by the time you’re watching this is a lot of channels like this have stuff pre-filmed

    • @getsinged7631
      @getsinged7631 5 лет назад

      Information about prisoners in solitary confinement likely isn't readily available at any given time. He prefaced the video saying the inmate might not be alive, most likely because there was no recent information available. His death had not yet been announced.

  • @LoonaBolti
    @LoonaBolti 5 лет назад +27

    I don't get it. If he is never going to get out and is so dangerous to those around him, PUT HIM DOWN! I hate that we have to pay to keep someone like this alive

    • @XIII_Vanitas
      @XIII_Vanitas 5 лет назад +5

      An execution is actually more expensive than a life sentence.

    • @alexporter7379
      @alexporter7379 5 лет назад +1

      @@XIII_Vanitas firing squads are cheaper than a case if toilet paper

    • @yukigiro17
      @yukigiro17 5 лет назад +1

      @Alex Porter Yes, and now we can use drones if the men in the firing squads doesn't want to do it.

    • @haleighbonk6670
      @haleighbonk6670 5 лет назад

      Alex Porter The problem there is the 20 year average waiting period before the actual execution, plus the cost of several appeals and hearings whenever new evidence is brought forth... they all add up. And the prisoner isn’t the one paying for them. Simply providing food and shelter until they die actually works out to be cheaper, although definitely less humane.

  • @craigowenlindvalljr8300
    @craigowenlindvalljr8300 4 года назад +5

    I did 5 years in Federal prison. Most of my time in FCI Beckley WV. I will say guards have done some very heinous thing's to myself and friends. Things that would justify prison sentences for the guards. But in Silverstein's situation he killed two guards! You can't commit something like that than complain about being treated badly! And Tommy silverware Silverstein died in May of 2019.

  • @demetriusmccray1574
    @demetriusmccray1574 5 лет назад +14

    This is exactly why I have been saying say, the states are probably the dumbest thing since you lot started claiming Alaska way back when.

  • @adog4733
    @adog4733 5 лет назад +4

    Jail is supposed to rehabilitate criminals, not make them worse

    • @djb1928
      @djb1928 5 лет назад

      Jail isn't suppose to rehabilitate criminals. Almost at no point in human history (until very recently) was jail/prison used as a means to improve criminal behavior.

  • @aradzanjanian9382
    @aradzanjanian9382 3 года назад

    this video was so educatinal I'm writing this on my new chromebook

  • @Flamingtorso
    @Flamingtorso 4 года назад +22

    If they send him to California, he'd be released within months.

  • @cripplefromwuhan5150
    @cripplefromwuhan5150 5 лет назад +43

    You know what's ironic it's independence day and his talking about someone getting locked up in isolation permanently

  • @swartchalk6745
    @swartchalk6745 4 года назад +1

    After weeks of quarantine how can we not sympathize with some of these men.

  • @dogmgfuckshitmcgee4656
    @dogmgfuckshitmcgee4656 4 года назад +3

    I love how some say it’s too harsh lol. Dudes a killa!

  • @Aries13XIII
    @Aries13XIII 5 лет назад +10

    I believe that there are a lot of people in prison who no longer need to be alive.

    • @nekoeko500
      @nekoeko500 5 лет назад +1

      There are a lot of free people who shouldn't live either. Being in prison only makes you easier to bully around

    • @oakstrong1
      @oakstrong1 5 лет назад

      There are even more people who shouldn't have never entered prison at all.

    • @matthewjones2095
      @matthewjones2095 3 года назад

      @@C20F so they think Every American law makes sense to you for example how does dealing alittle weed hurt anyone

    • @matthewjones2095
      @matthewjones2095 3 года назад

      @@C20F wrong i dont smoke but i do believe some laws are harmless

  • @rayaanfederation3915
    @rayaanfederation3915 4 года назад +2

    What's the song they are using?

  • @AlexDefiant
    @AlexDefiant 5 лет назад +5

    2:54 that uncle be giving me nightmares...

  • @originate2464
    @originate2464 5 лет назад +4

    There should be more effort to rehabilitate prisoners, partly so that they learn how to not wind up in prison again.
    Some guards are abusive and that is not helping the prisoners have less problematic behavior. If anything, abusing prisoners probably makes the behavior of those prisoners worse. Prisoners who have been mistreated by guards do have reason to be upset.
    Prisons might exist partly to punish people, but prisoners should still be treated humanely.
    Many of prison staff do treat people humanely, but some do not and that is a problem

    • @heatherhillman7280
      @heatherhillman7280 5 лет назад

      First of all, 75-80% of the US prison population are non-violent offenders, many serving out marijuana charge sentences in states that have already legalized it. That's because of the asinine federal law. Second, inmates are encouraged to finish high school and pursue higher education on the taxpayers dime. That is already giving them something for nothing, in my book. The can also get on the job training while working in prison. So it's not like they don't have options. Many choose not to take this option because selling drugs on the outside is infinitely more lucrative than getting a job and going straight. Money is what leads them back to being criminals.

  • @tuckerperry8503
    @tuckerperry8503 5 лет назад +2

    I live 10 minutes away from Marion and the prison is still famous but I had never heard of this.

  • @kunt9670
    @kunt9670 4 года назад +29

    Who else is watching during the 2020 quarantine 😂😂

  • @Mykasan
    @Mykasan 5 лет назад +15

    he had a sad and brutal life.

  • @QuebecsMonster
    @QuebecsMonster 5 лет назад +1

    Do a podcast!!! You would have some really really interesting stories ik you tell them in the video but sometimes it's nice to listen while you are working or driving.

  • @napoli9208
    @napoli9208 5 лет назад +14

    I’ve been living in isolation longer than Silverstein. Feeding on a balanced diet of memes and anime.

  • @troytab3087
    @troytab3087 3 года назад +1

    Love the soundtrack

  • @privatenunyabusiness2427
    @privatenunyabusiness2427 5 лет назад +21

    He's gotten everything he deserves. Whenever you think that the prison system is being barbaric think of the friends and family members of his victims in a lost of the experienced

    • @ethanhumrich3862
      @ethanhumrich3862 2 года назад +1

      Never got anybody that didn’t have it coming

  • @ozone20rulez
    @ozone20rulez 5 лет назад +8

    While it is true that there should be a supreme punishment, are wardens really qualified to dole out those punishments? Stanford Prison experiment shows that absolute authority can corrupt, and solitude has a profound effect on a person's psychological wellbeing.
    How many guards understand the implications and consequences of what they are doing? How many of them care?
    More than effective punishments, we need effective systems of Law enforcement and rehabilitation.

  • @lilwoody4789
    @lilwoody4789 4 года назад +1

    Try looking into Rudolf Hess. He was in Spando prison in solitary for more time than these examples.

  • @specialanims1279
    @specialanims1279 5 лет назад +4

    This is very interesting I've already watched 7 videos

  • @asher3831
    @asher3831 5 лет назад +41

    Why didn't they just give Tommy a death penalty

  • @j.p.6932
    @j.p.6932 7 месяцев назад +1

    9:15 He’s right. The prison system is based on punishment rather than any attempt at rehabilitation or true justice

  • @brentonhuber9258
    @brentonhuber9258 5 лет назад +9

    I like how this dude (the criminal) talks about how unjust the system is and how bad he was treated with his past wrongs laid out on the table. The dude doesn’t deserve to be alive.

    • @ctts9946
      @ctts9946 5 лет назад

      Brenton Huber well he ain’t alive no more

  • @mingebag3702
    @mingebag3702 5 лет назад +6

    3:26 is that the doom guy pain sound from doom 1 and 2

  • @marshmallowlemons6118
    @marshmallowlemons6118 5 лет назад +2

    If you treat someone like a monster they’re bound to become one

  • @Gunners_Mate_Guns
    @Gunners_Mate_Guns 5 лет назад +10

    He chose his path.
    Let him live with it.

  • @Zack-pl9np
    @Zack-pl9np 5 лет назад +7

    Tommy did pass away at the age of 67 on may of 2019

  • @elijahj-l825
    @elijahj-l825 5 лет назад

    These videos are always interesting🧐

  • @romanvasylyev6430
    @romanvasylyev6430 5 лет назад +4

    @The Infographics Show - I liked how you used the Doom 1 pain sound at 3:28 on the background, this is to show how much attention I pay to your videos, can you confirm?

  • @Surrealist4Hire
    @Surrealist4Hire 5 лет назад +23

    Solitary confinement violates the 8th Amendment. Barbaric treatment of captives require barbaric captors.