THE EXCEPTIONAL INFJ LEARNING STYLE
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INFJ Life Coach Lesson: Today we're asking the questions, are INFJs slow learners? What is the INFJ learning style? I'm going to make you familiar with the INFJ exponential learning curve. How often have you been in situations, maybe at work, maybe when you're with your friends and you want to learn a new skill and you take longer and it happens over and over again to the extent that you have decided not even to try because you know it's gonna take you forever. You're embarrassed about it and therefore nothing gets done. You build up this anxiety because you need to hide the fact that you need longer than others to learn something. Well today we're gonna tackle exactly this because it has a huge advantage that most of us completely overlook.
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Would you call yourself a slow learner?
I would say I learn I like a spiderweb. It is not efficient to go from A to B. But give me some time, and the whole subject is covered including connections others dont even think about.
I'm wouldn't call myself a slow learner but a steady one...I never quit when it comes to knowledge...There's a lot of things i know not just into my mind but also by heart...I just don't learn one side of the medal but both(negatives n positives)so, when I'm doing something I know what to do n what not to do...Like the old French saying(petit train va loin)small train go far...we have to look the small things before the big ones...Cheers!!!
In some subjects yes. Math has always been a slow one if i cld nt figure out the details within the system. But i not only love learning new thnigs but new ways of applying them.
Yes, I do consider myself a slow learner, especially if it is something I don't care about. But if the subject is interesting I am like a dog with a bone, determined to get to the marrow. One teacher told me I was like an old jalopy until I got going, and then I was like a rocket!
@@johanneswicklein4975 Yes!
This is true. I am an INFJ and I am in nursing school. I used to have this problem with studying (being a "slow" learner). I finally learned that I need to know the WHY of things instead of just memorizing facts. Learning the rationale or pattern behind information has helped me pick up information faster. Thanks for the video :)
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So true. This is one reason I struggled with math. I wanted to know about all of the weird symbols, the history of the category of math, etc. Other students were able to just memorize and move on.
Exactly! If I don’t know the WHY. I don’t know what I’m doing besides just moving from A to B for no apparent reason other then someone says it works or that it’s necessary.
I totally agree with you Preeti. I use to be So afraid of not being able to “keep up” with others that I would lose track of what I was actually needing to learn in the first place. They where figuring things out while I was trying to process Why we are trying to figure things out lol. It’s like white noise when I go to deep into wanting to understand the foundation of a topic before I can accept why I needed to learn it in the first place.
Preeti Rao I learned this a lot earlier like when I was in 8th grade. This is when I started studying the why in things and I started to see my grade for history up (because I was struggling before with just remembering facts). My average for history in a lead went from 90% to like 97 - 100% all year
I'm actually a fast learner and great with details. Most INFJ are actually like that. However, we want to verify everything and this may take a long time!
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Yes , totally agree
I agree, I can pick new stuff up almost immediately, but.. I later have to double check myself to conform to other’s expectations, cause though my instinct is usually correct, the method I use for completing tasks may be different from what was directed, and “wrong” in the eyes of others cause they are procedure exact, them not wanting to allow any variance in how things are done, cause.. if an exception is made, others would simply cut corners and make mistakes. Whereas.. INFJ’s, I think we are pretty much all perfectionists, at least 85%-99% perfectionists, if not 100%. And correct, old hat stuff, is simple to just jump to the correct determination, others may still need to take time to figure things out.
@@andrews3267 I don't know if I'm an INFJ nor do I care, but I also like to have an holistic understanding of whichever system I'm learning about, be able to connect the dots so to speak. I also agree with OP, I'm a fast learner and not so bad with details, although only learning about fun facts and not how things function doesn't make sense for me. Tbh most of my biologist friends are like that when it comes to learning, so I believe this way of learning is more widespread than we think.
Yeah. I'm fast in picking up information but slow in digesting it.
And the other thing is that we INFJs are perfectionist, so we don't prioritize speed, we prioritize accuracy. Because we see no value in doing something quickly but badly. I took a job test once where you had to enter numbers from several columns. When I finished, the person who was administering the test looked at me quizzically and then said, 'you were focused on accuracy weren't you?" And I said of course. Then he said, you came in just under the time limit but you got it 100% right. And I was like why would any business want someone who very quickly entered incorrect data? That is completely insane.
american rush, kills.
People say INFJs aren't good with detail. I think I am though. I think it's just because we're taking in so much information that it can be overwhelming sometimes. For that reason, it can take a little bit longer for things to make sense for us. As soon as we give ourselves time to thoroughly learn the fundamentals of something, we are often really good at complex tasks that often require a lot of details.
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Jennifer Phillips I agree
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Good point! I’ve read INFJs don’t do well with details also. I know it’s not the case with me and others have mentioned it. Odd.
@@striderwolf687 depends on what is meant by not good with details.
It’s because we’re such thorough and deep learners that we are such great teachers. We connect dots for people where they don’t even realize there are dots.
Sometimes your "surroundings" will not allow you to take your sweet time. They will assume that you are a lost cause and cut you off. This is especially true in paid work environments.
True...but then this just isn‘t the place for oneself...and most of the time we can drag this out WAY longer than we think
True. I am sure the issue could be endlessly debated. What you say about the INFJ learning style is true. If given more time, I can learn a given subect matter more thoroughly than most people.
If possible, I do compensate by studying in advance, if possible.
Question is how do you find jobs/ gigs that let you be you whn the jobs are mostly looking for fast learners /get up and go.especially whn you need the cash and can't be too picky
@@chillxwolf7248 manufactering jobs
POV: That's why some practicing to FACE the STORM. Walking while there is raging THUNDER AND HARD RAIN. Like what ODETTE did in Phil. Salute! 🌻🌻🌻
yup exactly. We are actually super quick learners it's just that people like to teach step by step. We want all of the steps and big picture concept because once we have that we know it already in any given step. Leveraged indeed.
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I have the same experience. I feel like I'm a slow learner because I need the big picture first. If the bigger picture is not given I have to collect it and organise first so the steps make more sense. LXF, do you have advice on how you do this? I'm still struggling with how to learn efficiently.
@@vivian-396 Well, I think it depends on the task, but for the most part I've found that INFJs learn best by observing/watching the task being performed. We are great at mirroring behavior. And if the task is "learning" like in the sense of non-physical learning then we have to picture it in our heads as if it were a scene. This allows us to see the big picture or "mirror" the knowledge. So when I was in a sales team we had a script to rebuttle certain scenarios. We would read the script and practice it with our trainer. I read the script picturing it all in my head. Then when the time came to practice it I was able to. My trainer thought I had photographic memory because I'd get the scripts correct (verbal scripts) in the scenarios after one read through. Really I was just understanding the entirety of it in my head already so it made sense - picturing it in your head and understanding the logic in why certain responses are elicited...etc. I hope this helps...If you are only getting one step at a time and your teacher refuses to give you all the steps, just pretend that one step is everything. As the steps keep coming, keep ironing them out in your head. Replay, replay, replay
@@lxf9914 I recognise what you say about mirroring. Learning through example and seeing how someone else does it is important. I will put it into practice and see how I can use your advice. I feel relief reading all these comments here. People around me say I'm very intelligent but it's difficult to believe when something I care about seems to be easy to learn for others and difficult for me. Which is confusing to have this sense of being intelligent and this inability to learn quickly, even though I know I can learn things really well. I recognise now that I just need a different approach to learning. I don't have all the answers yet but I will find a way that works for me! Thank you for taking the time to answer.
@@vivian-396 you are very welcome 🙏
I actually got fired because I was slow. It was the most devastatingly beautiful thing that ever happened to me. It actually allowed me to get other jobs and better opportunities that would have never had.
I quit one job because I was told not to think!
@@brennadickinson3562 my boss told me “ for someone so smart, you sure are dumb.” My first first boss ever said was” learn quickly, so you will quickly get paid.” Cuz each time I had to ask for help pay deductions. That point on, I’ve learned from my failures adjusted to what makes sense and works for the job.
My bosses now let me to my own devices and do I what I want to get the job done and better then what they wanted… they are happy with ending results.
I left the restraint industry after I got laid off 8 months ago. I think I asked too many why questions and wasn't able to get the orders perfect every time when I was overloaded. So I think it will work out for the best.
I was literally weeping by the time I finished this. I've been so frustrated because I know how smart I am, but law school with its go, go, go...was very difficult for me and hard on me.
Focus on your pace...you are the only one who knows if you are making progress 👍
I would like to thank you for this video. I am an INFJ and growing up in school I always thought that I was a little stupid. Even though in high school my IQ was tested at 118. I never understood what my challenge was. It felt so good to hear you describe it as "we have to know why." I have saying that my whole life. Nothing made made sense until I saw the whole picture of it. I always told people that I also over think things, again something must be wrong. Thanks again. (Ps) this is this first comment I ever wrote on RUclips. That's how much it ment to me.
Thank you for sharing! I am so happy my videos are helpful to you!
Same here, I just wrote my second ever comment above. I concur with everything you say.
Sometimes I think I understand something so get excited to explain it to someone. But once I start talking, I sort of freeze, and feel like I’ve forgotten everything I thought I knew so much about. Maybe I feel overwhelmed by the task of trying to make someone care about something as much as I do, or maybe it’s because it’s hard to actually verbalize these conceptions that only seem to make sense in my own head. The more I do this, though, the better I understand the topic and the way that others conceptualize it.
However, I don’t find this to be true when I’m talking about abstract things.
Things that I really want to understand or absorb take quite a bit of time, mostly because I spend so long thinking about one little piece before I feel ready to move on to the next.
Just speak your understanding and truth, the people who will get it, will and the others let them to their route..they will come to you when they see your results, only then they will understand that there is a strategy behind it
You are truly gifted. You really understand INFJs.
Glad I can help 👍😊 thanks for your feedback
ironically shes proof that it takes one to know one.
@@Wenzesdon't ever stop uploading videos..( if it gets hard on you.ofcrs,you can😊)glad I found you.And Iam greatful for your existence.❤
You’re spot on. INFJ need to learn the entire ecosystem of any subject before truly understand any given subject. Thus affect our performance in work place. However, given times, INFJ become sort of an expert in a subject in the long run.
Yep!
Absolutely true
Three or four months saturation learning and I have a good handle on most subjects I've tackled - if I'm curious enougn about it. Not expert, but I can at least ask intelligent questions...
As an INFJ I feel as If this is where school/college failed me.
They tried to teach me really fast and when I didn’t learn as fast, they put me in the class where they put all the misbehaving kids saying that, it’ll be better for me.
The only thing I learned in that class what how to multiply.
That’s it.
I’m a slow learner but once I get it it doesn’t leave.
I have nothing against being a slow learner and now, as I’m trying to get my life together, I’m stepping back and looking to where I need to be so I can understand what I need to do.
It’ll take longer, but the end result will be worth it.
Anyway thank you for the amazing video and have a great day.
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This was my experience also. I was in the "bone-head" classes that had no discipline and wondered why all my friends were in the college prep classes, not in any of mine. I proved my schools were crap by becoming successful inspite of poor grades... Yes, it can be done. Our independence and drive are huge once unleashed. You can do it too! Trust yourself.
@@mariagordanier3404 I’m getting there.
Studying in a Brazilian school helped me very much, because what I can see is that here in Brazil, a lot of teachers are adept to constructivism learning, and this way of learning is really good for INFJ’s. And that way of learning really helped me to be one of the best students in my class, because once I get it I could deal with all the challenges that came in that subject. But, I struggled very much in my senior year in high school to prepare for “Brazilian SAT”, because I needed to be a fast learner, so I had to study for three years to get into college. But now I’m very happy, because I managed to learn things in my way, and that knowledge is very rooted now.
👏👏👏 we all have our paths...it‘s all worth it
It feels so soothing to be understood when you are always misunderstood. Thank you fellow INFJ.
I'm not a slow learner ,I only learn when I'm interested in the topic lol, now I have noticed when I find something interesting I am unstoppable.
Damn right girl! I'm slow but when I GET IT, I GET IT..... I GET IT so much It goes out of the box, it applies to life, etc. I seem to understand it to the point where I can talk about it for hours. Not only that but show people how it is done etc. To all INFJ's out there please take her advice. It works.
This is 100% how I learn. I’ve never heard it explained before. I’ve always thought of it that I need more bricks in place than most before I “get it”, however, I have also seen that once I get to that point, I know it exceedingly better than most, and I know it forever. From your video, I understand why this is. So, while it may take me longer, I know it deeper and forever. I’m so glad the YT algorithm brought you to me. Thank you for this insight.
I’m an analyst and I agree with a lot of this. I’m very intelligent but it does take me awhile to grasp certain things.. especially when people in the workplace that are very type A kind of snapping their fingers at me. Once I get it I’m golden but it’s something I’ve struggled with but didn’t know it had a name..
Trust your way ot thinking!!! You got this
Exactly!
Agreed, it is the type A personality type that thinks it is “their way or else it is wrong,” type people that are the problem.
They don’t even know what they don’t know! Arrogant!
Computer programmer/analyst here. Please don't ask me to explain what I'm going to do, just let me do it. I promise the product will always be the best product I'm capable of delivering.
i have never, ever thought of myself as a slow learner, but this makes SO much sense. i was always good at school and very self-conscious about messing up at any job and having people think that i'm stupid. like, good at school, a total failure at simple tasks and life in general, which has truly made me downright scared to apply for certain jobs, and then i get judged for not being ambitious enough, etc. so thank you, once again, for a truly insightful and helpful video! also, i hope you're well and safe! whenever i hear about madrid in the news i think of you.
Glad the video is helpful! We are safe and healthy and it looks like things are going in the right direction 😊
@@Wenzes oh good, that's nice to hear!! :-D
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I can identify with you. I've never been ambitious either, but I'm really only interested in satisfying my voracious curiosity, and have spent my life learning. All along, I've been prodded by people who think I should exploit my gifts. but I'm not interested in that. I've done some menial jobs because I needed my headspace free and clear. I've taken on huge business-saving challenges and succeeded. But I love to learn, ponder and contemplate. That's just me!
As a 65 yr old INFJ I observed that as I learn my web of knowledge gathering becomes more encompassing. I may absorb/study/learn 10 pieces of information and understand that those 10 pieces are in an ordered process. I take that small piece and then integrate it with every other piece of information in my mind. I liken it to when I look at a person and by observing their body language I perceive their emotional position. So I observed 100 pieces of body language and form that opinion. Thus as I study I add the new information to the multitude of other information in my brain and interlink that to my worldview. In effect, I become conscious of the natural synaptic deployment of neurological paths in the brain.
We are not slow learners, we want to grasp everything perfectly. We are perfectionists. That's the problem.
I am an infj. I would say this is definitely how i learn naturally, and how I prefer to learn. However, I work in a very fast paced environment, and had to create a system for quick learning when needed. I don’t prefer it, bc i tend produce “okay” work vs excellent work. But sometimes “okay” is what is needed for the scenario. However it tends to be a stressful and draining way to navigate. Definitely love to learn, but mainly in my natural state.
If you don't mind; what quick learning system did you come up with? I'm in medical school and fast learning is a must.
@@livinglife7515 POV: Forgive myself and Accept things so there's no Guilt in facing whatever FEAR that's stopping urself to CHANGE and GROW. 🤜🤛🤜🤛🤜🤛🤟🤟🤟🌻🌻🌻
I relate to this so much.
INFJ here 😊 This video literally explained everything 😳 I was considered a slow learner as a child because my younger siblings could solve math problems (and everything else) faster than I could. I wish I knew it was actually OK to be slow because as a child, I thought I was just dumb.
Nevertheless, I always found my way to the finish line. I think I realised that being slow did not mean I was not intelligent. I was just more focused learning deeply and understanding the 'why' of things. It takes me a while but I always get it.
I wish I could go back to when I was a kid, struggling to solve math problems. I'd tell myself to take my time and..... also not to stress about it, because, I wouldn't really need it in my future job (I'm a Lawyer now 😅).
Yes me too, i do slow the solve Math problem😂 when I was in the Middle School my friend helped me. I was so stupid😂 but its okay there is not a big problem for us because every people have their strength and weakness. Proud to our self
Thank you for this video. I grew up thinking I am slow. My family used to call me out because they think I am slow. I didn’t give up. I got two Masters and I am not done yet. I indeed learn complex ideas. Thank you for affirming that we, INFJs, have a different learning styles. It’s liberating to know that we’re complex thinkers.
5:22 🙏🏾 - I KNOW that’s true! My mind is just like a spider weaving a web - just (gathering the ins and outs of everything, processing, and systematizing it) until I have a big picture understanding that (fills in all the hows) through the whys. Love it ❤️
Glad it resonated with you 👍😊
Learning this about myself made me emotional. Thank you so much for this. I always feel dumb because my learning style is so finnicky and specific. This makes me feel empowered.
We have to learn to value the way we think...it brings a lot benefits!!!
Being a (slow learner) is half the reason I got fired from my first job. I was discouraged for a long time. This video makes a lot of sense.
Then this wasn‘t the right environment for you...how long can one pretend we are something we are not
@@Wenzes very true. Sometimes you have to fake it but long term for any personality it ends up falling apart on you.
I was fired from several jobs for this reason. However, most entry level jobs are like that. Not all INFJs have the luxury of bypassing these jobs while they work their way through higher education in order to attain a more INFJ-friendly job.
Also, its not always easy to get a realistic "job preview" of just how detail-intense a particular job is.
Everything makes so much sense now... I apply this even to rules and structures, when I am in a new environment and given rules I always have to ask "why?" when it isn't already obvious to me. I can't stand it when people say "it just is" or "don't worry about it." I won't be able to work or abide by the rules if I don't understand the reasons they're implemented in the first place.
This video is 100% accurate. One small personal example. In the 10th grade, I was struggling with the barrage of new concepts given to us in mathematics. My fellow students absorbed the new ideas easily but I was drowning and completely lost, so the teacher dropped me down to a remedial math class (for dummies). Yet who scored the highest in math at the end of the year? I did. The teachers were mystified, as was I. Of course at the time I had no idea I was INFJ. But it all makes perfect sense in retrospect.
No matter where you fall within the model, this video should be mandatory in all learning facilities!
This explains a lot of what I went through growing up. I learned to read fairly well, but didn't catch onto other things quickly. It took time for me to learn, often to the exasperation of my parents and teachers. But I began to take this so-called "slowness" and turn it into a procedure - a strategy, which I still use: (1) Sometimes we have to slow down to speed up. (2) Sometimes we have to take time to save times (3) Sometimes we have to make a mess to straighten one out.
Guess what! Things got done faster! 🙂 I still don't win speed contests, but my personal "efficiently" is working. And yes, the progress is exponential.
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Slow down to speed up!
Make a mess, dump everything to a pile, to make a systemic straight easy to use "non mess"!
Go to the root, find out the cause and/or the aim to get what's to be done both easier and/or more efficient and/or once for all.
I prefer doing something once. That's the fastest even you re the last of the first pass, you don't need to do it again, while others will always need to learn a new procedure, from someone or a book etc. Meanwhile you re creating new procedures on the go just by yourself when needed.
Dear god! I am not alone!
Thank you 😃
I can relate to this experience, but it took me awhile to learn how to read with confidence. Had the same instruction as everyone else, but in grade one my teacher told my mother that I was struggling with reading. So she sat down with me each evening for one week. After that I was in the top 20% of readers in my class.
Evidence of the INFJ learning curve … one of the worst readers for months and then exponential growth over the course of a week!
It is really scary how you adress one of my weakness after the other in your last videos. Thanks a lot!
And you are really crazy if you think that McKinsey is the easy route😂....
Haha 😆 yeah...it was the save route, not the easy one 😉
Intuition needs time to form a pattern of what and how the things should be, to understand the process and what leads to what. Thats the tough part but from that point on just watch what an INFJ can do.
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I am an INFJ but I am also ADD. I don't consider myself a slow learner but more like a frustrated learner. Because I have learned how to use my ADD to quickly process all the "why's", the process has become quicker. My problem is taking in too much information and then struggle to systematize it. But trial and error is the greatest teacher
This is spot on...i recognized my ability to build a web of information but i do hate that it sometimes make me appear to be slower than others. I also get my words and thoughts criss-crossed sometimes bc my brain flips bc it is going so fast!😂 Im gradually accepting my brain/mind is genius but sometimes quirky. Im learning to just laugh at myself in those moments. But to also learn to slow down bc i get excited or bored amd want to move on to the next complex problem. I also foumd that when im leading projects it becomes problematic bc other ppl want to keep it simple while i prefer some complexity to keep it interesting and adventurous. Sacrificing my ideals on team projects hasnt worked well for me. Ive been able to hold on til the end of the project for the final product, but i usually dont stick ard for the next round of projects--especially if the quality is not up to my standards.
That‘s why I dislike group projects and I always aimed to work as individually as possible
THIS VIDEO SET ME FREE FROM THE SHAME AND EMBARASSMENT I HAVE BEEN FEELING MY ENTIRE LIFE.
The accuracy is spooky. It really helps to understand my brain patterns and learning style.
This explains why my life changed when I found mind mapping
Oh my goodness. I am usually so embarrassed to ask questions because I am trying to hide my learning style. I thought I was slow unti watching this! Thank you so much!
simply put, most people's learning style is 2D - x-Time ; y-Skill
and INFJ have 3D learning style - x-Time, y-Skill, z-Depth (insight)
so it takes a bit longer to connect all the dots but when we're done putting the final piece of puzzle, then not only we can
answer the question of "why" and "how", but also "how could be" and "how should be", too.
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The spider web analogy is spot on for me. I have to cast a net and grasp all of the data I need to completely understand something-whether system or structure-and once I understand the logic, I’m pretty much unstoppable.
Wow. I was in special ed from 2nd grade up till I graduated high school. I can Totally understand why now. I have Literally believed no matter What others said to me that I was just “dumb”. I’m glad you are helping me shine a light on this stuff.
Yes, don’t ever let that doubt creep in 😊 we all have our unique way of thinking and it is just as valid as anyone else’s thought process.
The older I get the easier it is to learn new things because I add it to my global thinking and pattern analysis. So many things in life overlap and add up exponentially.
I used to be frustrated with my slow learning until I embraced it as a different learning. While others excelled scholastically, I struggled. Always getting stuck in the details. The payoff: I noticed that outside of the classroom, applying the practical knowledge came easier to me than some of my more scholastic friends. In some cases, I ended up teaching the same subjects I struggled with. It has taken me a lifetime to reconcile this, and learning in a classroom environment is still challenging, but the knowledge comes.
This feels so accurate and revelational! It explains why I was sometimes thought of as learning disabled and sometimes recommended for advanced classes...but would confuse teachers when put in advanced classes because I wasn't performing as fast as the other students 😄. I came to believe I was a slow learner and that something must be wrong with me because I couldn't memorise anything. I remember crying trying to memorise the multiplication table because it made no sense, it seemed like a bunch of random numbers, I was not taught any why or how, I was just supposed to memorise it. I did well in school, regardless as I was excellent at reading the teachers moods, what they liked to see and hear, and I was able to work out a very short term way of memorising that would get me through a test, but then would quickly fade within an hour. And I remember in junior high being extremely frustrated when I would get something wrong on a test and wanted to learn what the correct answer was and why, only to be told there was no time for that we had to move on to a new lesson and not to be a perfectionist, I had gotten a good enough grade. Needless to say, as an adult I began to teach myself and learn on my own, at my own pace, in my own way, such as reading 6-7 seven books at a time, short bits of each, allowing time to let things sink in and coalesce but not getting bored because I can just switch to another book on a different topic. Like opening a new tab on a computer while something is downloading in the background. It's so much fun, and exciting to learn in my own ways! I really appreciate this video, it feels great to be validated and understood. Thank you!
Good stuff Wenzes, exponential learning curve indeed. At University of Technology, I met an INFJ at the faculty of Mechanical engineering. Big picture thinker and super-friendly. These days he's a professor in of Biomedical Imaging at the Department of Radiology. It's abstract and research focused to understand the brain, very INFJ! :)
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Really fitting explanation of my learning style! I often find that when I struggle in the beginning, it is often because there is something not quite right with what I'm trying to learn. My intuition is sensing the inconsistency, the lack of integrity, the gap, etc. in a process or system. I'm distracted by this detection of flaws. I have actually taken on learning a lot of Sensing-heavy skills in the last several years. One example is dog training. Believe it or not, the world of dog training is not licensed and there is a lot of bad and unskilled training going on right now. I was very motivated to stick with it to help my dog who struggles with fearful aggression towards other dogs. I figured it out - I found the most highly skilled professionals in my area and learned so much that I am now Admin for a national support group with extremely stringent standards for training/behavior mod methodology. I can see right through the bad training, the showy guru B.S., and ultimate lack of skills. All along, when I really didn't know much at all, my intuition was detecting the B.S. and quackery. Sometimes, it's not that we are learning slow; it's that we are distracted by what we've already figured out.
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Yep, I'm exactly the same way. When someone's telling me something and I find them to be inconsistent or untrustworthy I get distracted. It's like I'm just picking up on the vibe and not listening at all to the words.
I am definitely a slow learner. But at the same time I am a deliberate learner. I learn at my own pace and I am good with that. I’m not competitive so I am not under any pressure. The things I learn are more meaningful because I’m doing it my way.
We absorb so much more information than the average person, which is why it takes longer. We have a very acute awareness, which isn’t limited to a couple of areas, and can be quite distracting. It is also part of the empathy. I think people make the mistake of assuming empathy to be compassion, or some weird obsession with “helping” others, when in reality, it is simply an ability to step into the shoes of another person, as if we are that person. If that person is a creep, we pick up on it, and avoid them, if they are insecure, we pick up on it and avoid them, if they are genuine, we pick up on it, and don’t avoid them. It has nothing to do with compassion. I can do it with an animal too, which is why I know to leave some animals the hell alone, while others drool all over them, as if they are dolls, created solely for the dope doing the drooling. We pick up on so much nuance, that it can make any new situation or set of information overwhelming. It can be a blessing and a curse. But it does not indicate anything with regard to an inability to learn, quite the opposite, actually.
I am a slow learner but once I grasp something, my knowledge and understanding cascades like a waterfall and I can get to great depths of understanding quickly after that.
I was a slow learner when I was young. But I see patterns in everything. Once I learn a pattern, I can apply this to other situations, which has made me a fast learner. I am a mathematician now.
Omg! This video is a huge validation for me! Last time i've been called a 'slow learner' was by my lecturer who last year helped me got my undergraduate thesis done. She said that i actually smart because i did a good job analyzing new and complex topic. But then she added "but you are slow". It hit me like a ton of bricks! Then since that day i kind of internalizing that word "slow".
When i started to prepare for the job application i also need my time to gain information so i can minimize the chance of me choosing job that i will regret later. It seems like i did nothing when people see externally. But i know i am doing my work, i learn more and more about my self, i started to trust myself even more and i am confident with my 'slow' move. And again this video is such a confirmation! Such a huge relief for me. Makes me excited to continue my journey, doing the best on every aspects in my life, my way! Thank you so much! You really are helping INFJ's to be the best version of themselves and maximize their potential. Sending u love from Indonesia!💖
I've always been terrible at memorizing. I need to see it, hear it and write it, and sometimes ask questions, for new knowledge to stick. But I ended up with excellent grades and did well when in training.
I've seen what happens in my own life when I don't recognize my learning style. Information overload is serious a problem, but once the information has been systematically processed, it's like it ALL makes sense. Great video, thanks!
True. PhD studies are easier for me as an infj than undergrad. I distinguish myself the more complex shit gets. But probably my intj friend is gonna be the true genius 😅
I keep continually being blown away by how accurately these videos describe my personality. My mother always called me slow as a child and it made me feel like something was wrong but o was also called “so smart”
I also look for patterns in everything that I do and interact with.
I have been made to feel like I'm stupid so many times in my life because I don't immediately pick something up that I eventually came to believe it. I was convinced that I would never be good enough for anyone and basically lost my desire to excel.
Then some natural challenges came my way that brought me greater complexities, and I began to wake up to my potential without noticing it. I didn't realize until I saw this video, but I think I hit that exponential learning curve and got carried along by the momentum. Eventually, I even gathered enough courage to begin looking for and taking on new challenges and found out that I'm not stupid and nearly useless after all.
I'm still working past those negative thoughts/feelings, and I've learned enough about the way I am to begin addressing my needs in daily life, and I would dare say that I'm even close to accepting who I am. What I believe to be my biggest problem these days is that there are still people close to me who require I be more like them and guilt-trip me when I fail to live up to their expectations. More and more I feel my only solution is to go it alone.
I am an INFJ and a very fast learner, especially if my teacher is very intelligent. I prefer learning from videos and audios than from reading, probably because of my eyes. I have consciously developed a habit of listening to intelligent people talk and analyzing their logic....
Holy shit! I honestly thought I had a learning disability and teachers not able to understand me.
Thank you!
Well that probably explains why I used to be sh*tty at school and why I am now excellent at school Imao 😂
I learned math in order to get into nursing school and I usually have to be interested in something before my mind can wrap around it. So it was surprising finding out that I could remove my block if I wanted something bad enough.
I went on a course in accounts. I was determined to pass I always thought I had some issue when it came to learning something new. Anyway as always in class I felt lost in the beginning everyone seemed to understand most of the things explained to them I didn't have a clue. The first week I went home and cried I thought something was wrong with me. I didn't give up. I learned and learned up till late going over and over things I didn't understand. By the end of the course I was actually teaching the rest of the students and I passed with a distinction.
slow and steady wins the race
I was thinking about this topic recently, I was wondering why it takes me much longer to simply read something and understand and why I am digging into the details not getting the results. But you are right, even when I don't have fast results and I may seem stupid asking stupid questions at the beginning I am able to be very sure of myself at the end when I finnally understood. Thank you for this video, I am really confused when trying to find a pattern and just analizing the chaotic information but your video assured me that I will get the results. You are the best
Glad I could help Magdalena 😊
As an INFJ, thank you so much for making me realize that speed isn't the only important thing in absorbing information, it also comes with understanding and direction ♡
I always thought I was a slow learner because I used to zone out a lot during class. But once I grasped a concept, applying it was pea nuts for me.
Oh my, this makes so much sense. I remember over a year ago, I was way behind my classmates with an important essay, and it took forever for me to actually start seing things come together. It's exactly as you said, I collected as much information as possible to see the deep connections and ideas. I felt uneasy and somewhat disgusted (kinda rude but i could never do this) with seeing my friend just write shallow and surface level facts in their writing. But now I know why I struggled. It actually took me two weeks before I could really say I start going up the steeper slope of my curve, and everything started to piece together. Now, I'm not that proud of it looking back, but still glad I came through. I had another experience pretty similar recently, and it happened that same way, but I learned from the past and came out with an awesome piece.
We need a system as infjs and don't just absorb information like others. We need to find the meaning. We can't just accept info thrown at us. We know that in order for us to learn something and accept it as a part of ourselves, we have to have a meaning in it, a system, a pattern.
Understanding what makes things tick, is the most enjoyable way to learn. One thing that really helps me to compensate for how long it takes is discipline.
That’s why I hate assessment tests with job interviews where time is always crucial and minimum and costed me a lot of effort to prove myself in order to just get on board in my new job!
And boy they had second doubts about my capabilities which resulted in some hard time with my salary negotiations. Once onboard I have surpassed all their doubts, because it’s a super complex environment especially the politics, but thanks to politics I also still struggle in getting the credits for a salary raise.
Thank you very much for the valuable tips, because I had big doubts about my self in regards to this topic.
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Omg.....this has been so true of me. As a child growing up i felt i was slower than everyone else and my family constantly called me an idiot. But yet anything i put my mind into was eventually met with success never seen before. I just blew past everyone. And it didnt matter what it was. If i took an interest in it, eventually it was game over for everyone else. Yes i feel we are slow learners initially because we need all the information available on the topic at hand in order to make sense of the inner workings of that system. Once i know how that works i find i tend to eventually rewrite the rules to make things a lot more efficient. This eventually takes the topic to a whole other level....a master level. Not bragging here. Just empowering other infjs to trust the time it takes their brains to form patterns from all the data and life experiences their mind is processing. It is a very "whole" and complete learning.☺
As an INFJ, this is one of my top insecurity..
I'm really slow learner....She talking about this kinda made me teared up😂..From today i will never ever give up♡
This is really relatable. I am an INFJ and in school I have been labelled as the "slow learner". Everytime I had to learn something complicated, like Geometry and Fractions, I would take a lot of time. No one understood my problem, so I thought I need to figure it out myself. Thanks for the video, I hope it will help.
Patterns, why , big picture ,connections and the depth of knowledge are needed to absorb details and put them in place in a new way . I am a fast learner. And when I stop learning for a month after knowing the basics . I find my self more aware of it and how it is all linked . Then after years of not using it . It is even better.
I thought I'm the only one feeling it, that's why I prefer to study alone because I'm too busy figuring out the "whys" of things than merely just start doing the step by step process. It makes me super uneasy to do things that I don't understand its reasons. I learn faster if I have its back stories. That's also why I have to give extra explaination to myself if I'm going to memorize things for better retention. It ended like stories in my brain and not just words without meaning 😅
When I started school, I didn't understand what the teacher was trying to do. Rote learning made no sense to me. In graduate school, I scored in the 97th percentile on the Miller's Analogy test because that test measured critical thinking and understanding the relationships that even apparently unrelated data had on multiple sets of data in multiple ways. It seemed like fun to my INFJ brain.
The "outside the box" thinking, which Wenzes speaks of so often, means being able to grasp ideas that are outside of the individual's worldview. When I tried to explain such esoteric ideas to others, I became aware of how difficult this is for most people to do. Without INFJ learning, progress in knowledge would be much slower. New ideas are difficult to catch on. It took 10 years for the theory of relativity to start to gain traction. The theory of evolution is still being resisted by many people.
I noticed this about myself.
I only started doubting myself recently and never as a kid.
I would be very slow in the begining but then after studying on my own from the easiest concepts I will start making progress faster then everyone else.
I think that my ISFJ mother had a big contribution here because when she helped me with my homework she always said to start with the first step and little by little we'll make progress.
I am INFJ as well Slowly but steadly I reached to become a doctor.... So guys do not ever give up!
Hi, INFJ here. For me, learning almost everything was so easy since childhood, yes I use all the web thing and connections but very fast. And I never lose any ability I have developed over time even if I stop using it for long time...
Maybe I'm a variety of INFJ
This used to be my biggest struggle especially during middle school ages. I came from a country where study competition among teenagers are normally intense. Being a slow learner was not a personal style thing, it’s more likely to be seen as stupid or “hard to catch up with your peers”. This shame follows me till nowadays and I am trying to accept who I am. Growing up as an INFJ is tough. Not lying. BTW I really appreciate this channel for helping me heal myself.
Wow! this video was exactly what i needed to hear! Just recently started working as a software engineer and I've been really dealing with personal stress because the time it takes me to build things are a bit slower due to my learning curve. And you're right what ive noticed is that the knowledge i obtain once i finish is very deep, robust and adaptive, but it takes me a bit to get everything into something cohesive haha!
Keep spreading the wisdom great message 👍
Hi Tristan! I am going into Computer Science and would love to get some insight from you!
Glad it was helpful Tristian. Trust your way of thinking!!! When you stay calm people around you will trust that you know what you are doing 👍
@@zaraaijaz7876 it's a really good field to get into! there's a really wide range of things you can do with it and a good investment if your concerned about the financial benefit. What i enjoyed though is the universal knowledge you get from it. Computer Science goes very deep with theory and touches many things for example psychology, neuroscience, physics, biology, and artificial intelligence.Then Ni filters all that information and you gain some very profound personal insights about the universe. The human mind is quite something 😌 haha!
I use to believe I was. Mainly because public school labeled me as a slow learner. It took years but I finally stop letting other people's opinions define me, and that my road through life was going to be different. listening to you describe your learning style, you described mine to a T. Thank you for your video.
I relate so much to this because as an INFJ, I always feel like I'm not enough because I am not a quick learner.. Even when I'm going to the gym and do some new exercise I would take longer than the others. I always feel like giving up after sometimes even career wise..
When you know how you operate, then you know how to interpret the fact that your results take longer...that way they are solid
@@Wenzes Thank you for this insight. Still figuring out something new about my abilities everyday..
You are exactly correct about this depth of learning issue. I am a consulting engineer most of my projects involve remediation of failed projects... large scale complex failed projects because of shallow thinking.
It is easy to learn at a shallow level, but that had created deeper problems...
I start off just as you say slow learning... and thats how things are taught in schools, only at the shallowest level unfortunately.... probably because both the teacher and the student are not inclined or have the time to go deeper and vastly broader on the important concepts.
Thanks, your presentation has cleared up a few things for me.
When I was in school, I was not given the time to learn at the speed I needed. The way to get by in the school I went to, was to memorize everything. I think it's really sad that people like me, do poorly in school because learning speeds are not recognized. I wish I had known all of this in highschool. It would made me feel a lot better about myself, especially in the first two years.
I am laughing in my seat since this video is so true of my own experience!! I did academically well and went to good schools, but always felt that I did not understand the stuff my teacher would go through in class, and even with some revision I always felt that there was "something missing".. it was always until I sat myself down, committed a substantial chunk of time, went through the absolute basics and asked WHY to everything about the subject to build that frame of reference for that subject did I transform my entire experience of learning that subject. I remember this happened for Chemistry -- did not like the subject much in secondary school but did OK, but when I got to junior college I was fed up with feeling like there were holes in my understanding and so I read my 500 page textbook from cover to cover like a detective story.. after that I realised I did not even need to study much for subsequent Chemistry tests to do well.. I even managed to do University-level classes without studying that much for them! Because I had somehow plugged the gaps in my basic understanding.. the INFJ brain is weird!
Boss (looking at me like I'm lazy) - "I gave you this job days ago, how come you haven't started yet?"
Me - "Oh I have started, it's just all in my head for now. "
Boss - "Well I need this done so get on with it"
Me - finishes on time and restructures the entire framework around the project.
2 major factors: Depression spectrum is high in INFJ's and depression hugely effects executive functioning. Life style is the other. Some ppl I know accumulate so much info just by their activities such as movies, gaming, reading etc. INFJ's thinkin/being style is not about doing task orientated things.
We think deeply. We go deeper than most people. We are not shallow thinkers. In the bigger picture that is a huge ADVANTAGE over most people.
i wouldnt say im a slow learner, I just lose motivation to learn a skill
I had never heard of the Meyer Briggs system or if I had I didn’t think it was important. I just knew no personality systems fit me. At nine o’clock on a Friday night for fun there was a video called “see if you are the rarest personality type” I took it. It was me with tons of explanations as to who I was. I was up until 4 o’clock in the morning watching different videos.I felt like my life made sense for the first time or at least was not the only one on the planet. It is funny you said this about us learning slower. I had a new job and I told them that it was going to take longer for me to learn but when I am done learning I will be one of your best employees. Both were true. They said they had never had anyone say that before. Great insights. I find this system so helpful in understanding people. Part of us being slower learners can be useful to others. I was learning Spanish in a wonderful but extremely challenging school. To help me learn the materials I organized study groups. That helped the other students too. They had said that we could use the texts from the previous class. I was the only one that put in the extra effort. Not because they didn’t care but because learning for them was easier. I would make copies of the tests and give them to others. I also made fill in the blank flash cards. That is what it took for me. I was the only one that did that. I knew I was different and thought I was stupid because everyone else in school learned faster. It wasn’t until jr high that a teacher challenged me and said that the grades I was getting were good for some but I was so much more intelligent than that. I thought I was stupid so I was not trying. I took him seriously and from then on took school seriously. I ended up writing a play that was put on for my college’s homecoming. One thing that is so true is while we sometimes have a hard time expressing ourselves verbally we can be good writers. I see a counselor for something poor thing. She would ask me questions and I would be unable to formulate an answer. Then I would go home and be able to write a very clear answer. I would be left going why can’t I say this in her office? This really has been my experience of looking like a slow learner. I just didn’t know it part of being an INFJ. Another thing that happened was, at that language school I was picking up that they were asking some questions on their tests regarding the next chapter. I reviewed the next chapter. I was the only one that did that. We pick up on what kind of tests people will give
This is just what I need right now.
I just started an unfamiliar branch of career and the volume of new information thrown at me has been so enormous. Ofcourse, the tiny details don't make any sense at first until the bigger picture is clear to me.
I’m busy working the patterns to place each piece of information to which I’d use to run the long term without having to relearn them at any point again.
But I’ve started reading the impatience on the faces of colleagues and superiors in the first few weeks/months already that is almost starting to get to me and make me doubt my abilities.
Good thing it's a marathon and not a sprint.
Infj-t, I worked in a place called publix in the deli area, I had to memorize soooooooo much, I was there for 6 whole months and I could barely remember what the customers order was let alone an entire isle of meats, cheeses n other crap, I failed and had to quit before I was let go, I felt like crap but I knew I had to stop because my team didn't deserve me not bein able to pull my own weight
Did the right thing!
Thank you so much for this Wenzes!!! 💕 I feel more confident on my learning process through your insights.
As a university student on Hispanic Literature on my first semester I used to find hard how fast my friends memorize the little things of a big topic and talk about it so easily, when I was struggling to understanding the whole thing and I felt so dumb and slow most of the time. As the years went I noticed that I needed more time to understand a topic depply, like you explain, I was Looking for that spider web pattern. After that I understood that I could bring different conections that not most of my mates could and make interesting contributions... But I needed more time that sometimes wasnt available and I couldn't get involve in class as much as I wanted, I get this amazing insight but so much time after the class is over, it was so frustrairing! Now Im trying to make my peace with that, little by little, acepting that I have a different type of learning.
That‘s the right approach 👍😉 we all have our unique ways of learning. Let‘s embrace and cherish the way we think
I like how you use the analogy of an exponential curve, and I am so glad you covered this topic, I have definitely thought that I'm a slow learner when in college. But you're so right, once I found a pattern, I could answer questions that other people would get stuck on.
It's weird but I feel like I pick up on details automatically effortlessly if I'm interested in the subject but as soon as someone starts telling me about their day or a scene they saw on their show in detail I have to get away as I become overloaded lol
Up until yesterday, I thought that I either understand information immediately or I’m stuck and don’t know how to study. Your input is new to me because I’ve never thought of myself as slow.