This video was so great and really captured what I’ve been feeling lately. I’ve seen so many videos where people are making fun of their old outfits (before they found their style) but to me it looks like a bunch of trends from a few years ago and now they wear the current trends. I think people use the words personal style and it doesn’t actually mean anything. I think people think that cores and aesthetics are personal styles because they centre identity. Like are you a granola girl or a cottagecore girl etc. it gives a false sense of having done the work to figure out what you actually like. I notice as I get older my outfits are less extravagant and more practical for what I’m doing. It’s the difference between making fashion TikToks in my bedroom during the pandemic and actually going to class and work every day. I don’t think I need to have a name for my style.
I was JUST referencing Noah Daniel’s point about using quality design materials within your budget to describe why a very simple outfit can look cheap if the clothing material is low quality. It’s wild how translatable his stuff (and interior design principles in general) are to fashion!
I totally agree with yours and Noah Daniel's point about context. After spending a couple years now in industries where it makes contextual sense to wear sturdy clothing I can move in, sweat in, and get stains on, I have grown a much deeper appreciation for workwear and the values that workwear considers "good" in clothing. The stuff I wear when not at work is quite different, but even outside of work when shopping, I notice myself noticing practical details I used to overlook like pocket configuration, fabric weight, areas of reinforcement, ease of cleaning, and range of movement (especially in the shoulders and knees!). Are these features "stylish", exactly? No, not in isolation, but they are features of design that clearly respond to their context, and I appreciate that practicality because the contexts I spend most of my time have made such concerns salient. But the things I now value in clothing don't make sense for someone who, for example, goes from their car to a corporate office. My work clothes aren't "good" there; they don't fit the environment. What is considered "good" in an office vs in my workplace are so different that it doesn't make sense to judge pieces of clothing on the same standards. They belong to different contexts, and aestheticizing them without their context overlooks the fact that they reflect different set of values around getting dressed. Comfort and practicality are not universal. Comfortable *where*? Practical *for what*?
This is a very thought provoking video. I think having rules and guidelines can help with compulsive shopping and reduce daily decision fatigue. However, getting caught up in black and white thinking is unhealthy and I believe it is so much better for us to explore the nuance in all situations. I never connected that thought to personal style but it is no less relevant to that than anything else. Thank you for the great video.
This really captures where I’m at. Love your channel. And not that there’s need to compare, but you seem more mature in your thinking and like you have more distance from the social media fashion marketing onslaught than some of the other video creators you mention, which I appreciate. They seem much more drawn in by the siren song of trending disposables even though they try to struggle against them. I always thought of trends as seeing which new idea to add to one’s permanent collection and enduring personal style. This anxiety about having the right of-the-moment uniform and then being mortified by it within months is joyless and exhausting. Like being back in a Mean Girls high school except doing it to ourselves under the bashing manipulation of the fashion industry.
I can't believe how something so enjoyable, like styling yourself, over the years turned into something so frantic and exhausting with all of the trends, shops, influences, options... Buying, decluttering, reselling, donating... Jesus, it's like having another job.
I think the same about trends!! Personally I feel a little bit fatigued from deciding what to wear bc it seems like media is filled with that content 😩 And now that my daily clothes are trending I feel weird bc I don’t want to identify myself among the shein girlies that are now using the clothes I like 😖 I think I’ll wait until there’s a new trend to feel comfortable again wearing them
Thank you for a great video! I especially resonated with this quote: "As selfproclaimed fashion lovers we wnd up sacrificing the very essence of fashion: creativity, in exchange for garantied praise and exceptance."
I'm renovating a home right now with my boyfriend in rural Germany right beside my grandmas house and I keep telling him it doesn't make sense to furnish our new apartment like the Cullen's house from twilight even though we both love the aesthetic of it 🥲
hey lovely, I just wanted to say keep doing what you're doing! I recently found your channel, and I'm in love! you instantly reminded me of Emma Chamberlain. You have created a unique and charming atmosphere that is refreshing to see. I don't have TikTok and really limit myself to Instagram. Your content is so warm and comforting. I've told all my friends about your channel and I can't wait to see you grow. I adore your fashion and focus on sustainability and overall I think you're a fantastic guide in a really crazy time of social media. All the best - Elice x
I think using certain common descriptors works if you understand the references and the style genuinely comes from your personal style. I recently decided my style is Modernist Romantic. I get what I mean by that but without a visual nobody would understand exactly how I interpret that in my fashion choices. The thing is I didn't get that from an aesthetic trend and I could also name more terms that give it nuance. The only reason I even came up with that is so it guides my choices when I can easily be swayed to buy something just because it's cute but in the end doesn't fit my style. So now if I think Modernist Romantic first, I can put items into a context and code. If my style changes over time I'm not beholden to stick to that phrase but it works for where I am now and I'e dressed that for years. I just gave it a title recently. I'm not swayed to hop on a total new look because it's trending but if a trendy item appears that fits Modernist Romantic then I know it can work.
I think the title of your video and the message I'm getting out of it don't match. What I'm hearing isn't so much that labeling your style is bad, so much as that choosing a pre-existing label from out there on the internet and adopting that style wholesale as it was presented to you is limiting. I think describing one's personal style is helpful in making purchases that harmonize with the existing wardrobe. (While I don't really feel any sort of way about the three word method, I get the point of that exercise. When I say "describe", I mean encapsulate in some sort of shorthand, either in words, or images, or even feelings, whatever is the unifying point in one's style.) However, I do agree that there's a good bit of difference between refining our style organically and trying to acquire an "off the rack" style from the internet without tailoring it to ourselves.
This video was so great and really captured what I’ve been feeling lately. I’ve seen so many videos where people are making fun of their old outfits (before they found their style) but to me it looks like a bunch of trends from a few years ago and now they wear the current trends. I think people use the words personal style and it doesn’t actually mean anything. I think people think that cores and aesthetics are personal styles because they centre identity. Like are you a granola girl or a cottagecore girl etc. it gives a false sense of having done the work to figure out what you actually like.
I notice as I get older my outfits are less extravagant and more practical for what I’m doing. It’s the difference between making fashion TikToks in my bedroom during the pandemic and actually going to class and work every day. I don’t think I need to have a name for my style.
I was JUST referencing Noah Daniel’s point about using quality design materials within your budget to describe why a very simple outfit can look cheap if the clothing material is low quality. It’s wild how translatable his stuff (and interior design principles in general) are to fashion!
@@honor_martin yes!!! honest authentic materials 👏🏽 I’ve been thinking the same thing about how parallel the interior design and fashion world are!!
I totally agree with yours and Noah Daniel's point about context. After spending a couple years now in industries where it makes contextual sense to wear sturdy clothing I can move in, sweat in, and get stains on, I have grown a much deeper appreciation for workwear and the values that workwear considers "good" in clothing. The stuff I wear when not at work is quite different, but even outside of work when shopping, I notice myself noticing practical details I used to overlook like pocket configuration, fabric weight, areas of reinforcement, ease of cleaning, and range of movement (especially in the shoulders and knees!). Are these features "stylish", exactly? No, not in isolation, but they are features of design that clearly respond to their context, and I appreciate that practicality because the contexts I spend most of my time have made such concerns salient. But the things I now value in clothing don't make sense for someone who, for example, goes from their car to a corporate office. My work clothes aren't "good" there; they don't fit the environment. What is considered "good" in an office vs in my workplace are so different that it doesn't make sense to judge pieces of clothing on the same standards. They belong to different contexts, and aestheticizing them without their context overlooks the fact that they reflect different set of values around getting dressed. Comfort and practicality are not universal. Comfortable *where*? Practical *for what*?
This is a very thought provoking video. I think having rules and guidelines can help with compulsive shopping and reduce daily decision fatigue. However, getting caught up in black and white thinking is unhealthy and I believe it is so much better for us to explore the nuance in all situations. I never connected that thought to personal style but it is no less relevant to that than anything else. Thank you for the great video.
This really captures where I’m at. Love your channel. And not that there’s need to compare, but you seem more mature in your thinking and like you have more distance from the social media fashion marketing onslaught than some of the other video creators you mention, which I appreciate. They seem much more drawn in by the siren song of trending disposables even though they try to struggle against them.
I always thought of trends as seeing which new idea to add to one’s permanent collection and enduring personal style. This anxiety about having the right of-the-moment uniform and then being mortified by it within months is joyless and exhausting. Like being back in a Mean Girls high school except doing it to ourselves under the bashing manipulation of the fashion industry.
I can't believe how something so enjoyable, like styling yourself, over the years turned into something so frantic and exhausting with all of the trends, shops, influences, options... Buying, decluttering, reselling, donating... Jesus, it's like having another job.
I think the same about trends!! Personally I feel a little bit fatigued from deciding what to wear bc it seems like media is filled with that content 😩
And now that my daily clothes are trending I feel weird bc I don’t want to identify myself among the shein girlies that are now using the clothes I like 😖 I think I’ll wait until there’s a new trend to feel comfortable again wearing them
Thank you for a great video! I especially resonated with this quote: "As selfproclaimed fashion lovers we wnd up sacrificing the very essence of fashion: creativity, in exchange for garantied praise and exceptance."
Absolutely love everything you’re saying Phoebe! Totally agree with all these thoughts
@@elliejodonnell I love you ewwie 🩵
I'm renovating a home right now with my boyfriend in rural Germany right beside my grandmas house and I keep telling him it doesn't make sense to furnish our new apartment like the Cullen's house from twilight even though we both love the aesthetic of it 🥲
omg how DREAMY!! and hahahah i love it
“Wear it Well” by Allison Bornstein is very good where your words can change.
hey lovely, I just wanted to say keep doing what you're doing! I recently found your channel, and I'm in love! you instantly reminded me of Emma Chamberlain. You have created a unique and charming atmosphere that is refreshing to see. I don't have TikTok and really limit myself to Instagram. Your content is so warm and comforting. I've told all my friends about your channel and I can't wait to see you grow. I adore your fashion and focus on sustainability and overall I think you're a fantastic guide in a really crazy time of social media. All the best - Elice x
@@elicereily2592 🥹 thank you so much this means more than you know 🩵
I think using certain common descriptors works if you understand the references and the style genuinely comes from your personal style. I recently decided my style is Modernist Romantic. I get what I mean by that but without a visual nobody would understand exactly how I interpret that in my fashion choices. The thing is I didn't get that from an aesthetic trend and I could also name more terms that give it nuance. The only reason I even came up with that is so it guides my choices when I can easily be swayed to buy something just because it's cute but in the end doesn't fit my style. So now if I think Modernist Romantic first, I can put items into a context and code. If my style changes over time I'm not beholden to stick to that phrase but it works for where I am now and I'e dressed that for years. I just gave it a title recently. I'm not swayed to hop on a total new look because it's trending but if a trendy item appears that fits Modernist Romantic then I know it can work.
amazing vid phoebe :) have you considered making a podcast? your views on fashion are so refreshing and you are a great communicator
@@peky6036 I actually have a completely unrelated podcast with my sister called Classless Chaps! That’s such a great compliment, thank you so much 🫶🏽
I think the title of your video and the message I'm getting out of it don't match. What I'm hearing isn't so much that labeling your style is bad, so much as that choosing a pre-existing label from out there on the internet and adopting that style wholesale as it was presented to you is limiting. I think describing one's personal style is helpful in making purchases that harmonize with the existing wardrobe. (While I don't really feel any sort of way about the three word method, I get the point of that exercise. When I say "describe", I mean encapsulate in some sort of shorthand, either in words, or images, or even feelings, whatever is the unifying point in one's style.) However, I do agree that there's a good bit of difference between refining our style organically and trying to acquire an "off the rack" style from the internet without tailoring it to ourselves.