Jon is literally elite level debater. Chris Wallace is, for whatever you think of him, an advanced interviewer and debater. Jon runs absolute circles around him while being ambushed by all the questions.
I was mildly impressed with Wallace. He had many carefully laid traps, and didn't get thrown by Stewart like most people do. Stewart had to actually slow down to navigate things at multiple points to not get caught, whereas he usually dances all round folks so quickly they don't even realize they got got. On the other hand, Stewart walked right into the lion's den, and though he had to be careful it still was not a terribly difficult "battle." It was kind of like watching a top rated highschool basketball player face off against an NBA superstar.
Also worth noting that the networks they’re talking about like CNN and NBC absolutely did adopt the Fox News style partisanship once Trump came along. It’s maybe not as cynical and corrosive but now I can’t blame anyone for having trust issues with these networks. Just stick to Associated Press I guess
And in fact his description of Fox news is corroborated in Fox documents (inc. emails and texts) turned over to the court/lawyers in the Dominion voting suit.
When Wallace said lets talk about your network and showed the tommy lee clip..I wish Jon had countered with, what's my networks name, and what's yours.
@@uascottcan I ask how old you all are? No disrespect by it. I just want to know where this resurgence of these clips are coming from and wondering if it is the young crowd catching on or just the old heads looking for nostalgia. Genuinely curious.
@@steverogers6572 22, I just love to watch jon stewart debate, he thinks things through so quickly that you know he was actually aware of what was happening (specifically with FOX sensationalism) and really he is that awesome combination of smart and funny. I dont know if the polarization of modern politics is unsalvagable but there is some nostalgia for old debate.
Stewart called it 10 years ago. “How often do you appear on my show.” Wallace has always been the voice of reason for Fox News. For whatever that’s worth...
@@jonholbrook8821 Chris Wallace was a legitimately good reporter despite his employer and partisan views. Kind of sad to see him leave Fox as he was one of the last semi-contrarian voices. It worries me to see who they'll pick up, they'll will likely carry a lot more explicit bias than Wallace.
@@jackmedlock5888 Fox can’t afford to not go further right because their base is shifting further right. On the other hand, they can’t afford to be Fox as they face the courts over their lies about the companies that supply the voting machines. They fed hate and they will be consumed by it either way.
@@michael1345 hold on now, they’re the main thruster for why the right is becoming more right. If they really wanted to bring them back to reality, they would.
@@sebastiansebastian5270 I would take as many wrapped snacks as possible. Btw, Fox always calls him Jon Liebowitz as if he changed his name for hiding his Jewish essence but he actually did not care about his dad who ditched them and took his mom's maiden name, Stewart
He sweats out these things, Jon does, the quintessential nervous wreck political hack comedian that wants to be taken seriously but not out loud, because hiding behind his "comedian" label allows him all of the privilege of a thoroughly biased political commentator without having to actually take ownership of his leftist views.
@@jedinxf7 SAME!! Omg, I love him. I love Trevor too but I could not see him doing this in the world we live in today. Fox is too insane for this shite now
Wallace: Let me give you another example. Stewart: Ok. *Plays example* Wallace: Well how do you explain that one huh? Stewart: So I thin- Wallace: Let me give you another example.
Exactly, why should Chris or Fox News care so much of what goes on with Comedy central??? They are threatened that people who watch CC will hate Conservatives. Who the hell cares?
12:40 I think he's downplaying the significance of omitting information that would give a different impression, but I'm making this comment 9 years later when the US is considerably more partisan. -and while politifact put Jon in a position where he had to walk back his comment at 15:00 about Fox viewers being consistently the most misinformed, that may have changed too.
chris wallace contradicted himself so much, he said at one point that fox is always fair and balanced and then many times said "we tell the other side of the story", how is that not partisan bias !!??
The whole agenda is making a fairly extreme ideology look like one side of a 50/50 debate. It's like providing a "counterweight" to the fact that smoking tobacco is bad for you. But what about the other side of the argument? Yeah it's a 50/50 debate but the evidence is NOT 50/50. Fox News's schtick is the old tobacco lobbyist disinformation playbook applied to things like climate change and... now, the coronavirus
RossKempOnYourMum01 Exactly. It’s also funny when the right criticizes people like Jon for mainly going after the right but it’s like... that’s where the comedy is though. The right has way more characters and ridiculous people who make ridicule statements. The left has gotten a little crazier in current times with the PC stuff but back around the time of this interview, there was no Herman Cain equivalent on the left. Remember that one conservative who said a raped woman’s body has a way of self-aborting a fetus so there’s no reason for abortion to be legal? How about Texas trying to teach creationism in the science class? How about a character like Alex Jones? There’s just a shit ton more crazy in the right so that’s naturally where the comedy is. So it’s also a fallacy when the right criticizes people like Stewart for not being 50/50 in their satire of both sides as well.
He probably meant they tell both sides of the story, while others would only tell one. To be fair though, Wallace, Shep Smith (before he quit) and Neil Cavuto would be on the left edge of Fox, with Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson on the right edge, so you'd have to listen to different hosts to get both sides of anything. His statement at 10:40 about Chris Wallace being a counterweight to pundits like Hannity seems more true than ever now.
@@davidcrane6593 I don't know about all that, but Bill O'Reilly was actually a very intelligent person, and not a total asshole or sellout. He's obviously a bad person with all we've seen in at least that one big regard, and he has some really bad views, but he's smart and capable enough to match wits with John Stewart. And he also did so on an equal and most importantly friendly level (rare in one side versus the other), part serious and part comedy, he could match the energy and was a good showman. That also would have been his downfall, I don't think bill O'Reilly would have ever went full on conspiracy theory and excitational sensationalist nonsense like Fox news has been pushing its primetime hosts to lately. As much as I dislike the man, I don't think he would be cool with Tucker Carlsons conspiracy and racist nonsense, and especially not Laura Ingram and what she did in the wake of the Florida school shooting, the single most despicable display fox news has ever put on. And I think he would especially not enjoy seeing hannity, at one time his equal and who also behaved in a similar manner, fall to this horrible conspiracy theorist behavior. I think that's why Chris Wallace quit. It's wholly why Shepard Smith got fired, literally for not going with the narrative, as requested by Donald trump himself. Shepard Smith was the last piece of true shining journalistic integrity the network had, used to dedicate alot of his show to refuting the nonsense hannity was spreading.
@@grindelo5868 i think he was referring to the laziness of the media's viewers...not to research what they hear on the media. That's what I got from it at least
@@grindelo5868 oh wallace sings a whole different tune now. But I wonder about Stewart. He always seemed to lean to the dems side back in the day, but the dems stood for different things back then. I always thought Stewart's allegiances were to equality, fairness, freedom of speech, the right to disagree. I'm not sure the dems have those same values now, or if they ever did.
South Park is one of the few shows that goes after liberals AND conservatives - eg the anti gay christian camp and the PC principal characters, both great satire of 2 different perspectives
@@RossKempOnYourMum01 What I respect most about Trey Parker and Matt Stone is they will go after ANYBODY!!! I believe that's why they've stayed on the tube as long as they have.
@@RossKempOnYourMum01 it isn't about liberals and conservatives on South Park. Its about exposing hypocrisy. They really aren't a political show. They just aren't afraid to call people out on their hypocrisy
Chris Wallace's examples hurt the impact of what he was trying to say greatly and was a stupid move all-around, that being said I don't disagree with his main point at all. Stewart keeps using the word "idealogical" like its an antonym of partisan, when really since he has personal liberal ideologies its the exact same thing. There's a lot of history of the daily show, especially now under Trevor Noah, omitting and misrepresenting interviews and news stories to push a liberal agenda no question. Stewart is so intelligent though that it's basically impossible to catch him slipping up like that and he obviously didn't here.
@HeyMildred Funny how in American, rational is now considered liberal talking points. Oh, how the Republicans have fallen from its past glory and rationality.
Jarred Can it's hard to call something a debate when he's spending so much time trying to cut off Jon's answers. He was asking softer questions, but the intention was to try to deligitimise Jon, even just a bit.
Fox threw their best guy at him, and he was so flustered by about the third minute that he wouldn't let Stewart complete his well-rounded arguments. I don't think Chris Wallace was ready for that, even if he'd been exposed to it already.
I'd really like to have these two sit down for a long-form podcast. Fox obvious gave Wallace a charged statement/premise to work with. I think these two could sit down and have a great talk about their differing opinions on policy.
Tucker Carson, as ridiculously one-sided as his opinions sometimes tend to be, has had respectful disagreement interviews too sometimes. Andrew Yang for example
Civil like Victorian arguments. “Oh so you intend to attack my fields? Very well we shall meet in battle” “Very well then sir. A battle we shall have” in the most calm breath
"Being a comedian is harder than what you do" - this is true. Comedians consider the fullest contexts, and then drive through that process of context to hit on the absurdity of things. It takes a lot of thinking to get there.
I know it's two years later but I so agree with this comment. What presenters like Wallace do is point and direct and tell their viewers what to think. What comedians do is build a mirror and hold it to us and to the system and give us a perspective outside of both that highlights the absurdity of believing that system is for our benefit and believing that we're doing good by empowering certain aspects of that system when it's all the same system.
Chris Wallace's smugness is really irritating in this interview (attempted hit piece) He comes across as very unintelligent in this compared to Stewart
Anyone who tries to go up against Jon Stewart loses. He’s too prepared, smart and too eloquent. And he’s able to channel his emotions into what he’s saying without lowering himself to their shenanigans.
@joe: He is not only really fast, but he's clearly thought all of these subjects through in great depth. He's not just winging it. He's also a very smart debater. Stewart quickly detected that Wallace's strategy was to overwhelm Stewart with data points and put him on the defensive. And he refused to play along. He insisted upon discussing each data point in depth. I like and respect Chris Wallace, but it was disappointing to see him resort to that kind of "gotcha" approach. That said, I think Wallace knew Stewart would be a handful and that Wallace's only chance was to be hyper-prepared to maintain command of the conversation (which he ultimately failed to do).
I think John Stewart is a genius too - but I don't think he had to rely on any genius to stand his ground here. The key is Stewart understands what he is doing and what his role is in the media. In contrast, main stream news programs don't understand why he is more popular than they are - but that shouldn't be their concern! The problem is the news will always get less ratings than entertainment programming - but no duh, that's cause entertainers are supposed to be entertaining! The news media is supposed be concerned with reporting ACCURATE FACTS and needs to stop worrying about being entertaining - they should leave that bit to professionals like Stewart. The moment the mainstream news media started caring too much about grabbing our attention with gimmicks and sensationalism was the moment we lost our faith in the news. And they wonder why echo chambers exist? Guess they finally learned how to tell a joke.
My dream would be to have Jon and Chris sit down now, October 2020, one month before the craziest election we've ever had, and revisit this very subject.
I don't think Stewart would need to make any new points. Everything he said still holds and rings true today, if anything we're seeing the ruptured organ of Fox News, the tumor they grew that has metastasized. He gave up comedy to go be an activist, that much is true, and he has my respect.
@@goodolarchie I disagree. Chris' argument from the very beginning was that Fox News is a counterweight to the leftward learnings of CNN, ABC and other MSM. I think if his argument wasn't evident 9 years ago, it is clearly evident today. CNN as an example, and even MSNBC, are clearly liberally biased news organizations, just as Fox News is clearly a conservatively biased news organization. The sad thing is that people today still refuse to see it - those who get their news from CNN and Fox News aren't just getting the news, they are getting the narrative. Fox News viewers can accept that, it's been the case for years, but CNN and other MSM viewers on the other hand can't. It's tough to fathom that the "news" they have been consuming all this time has been narrative all along.
@@Cgrowney Well, considering Fox has consistently had more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined, then wouldn’t that make them the true MSM? The whole thing about the media being left-biased comes from a study done decades ago of news anchors. It wasn’t even about the news content which isn’t even controlled by those anchors. The right has been harping on about those results ever since despite the fact that the very same media outlets those anchors worked for are owned by the wealthy who predominantly vote/support Republicans. Do they give to Dems? Only when those Dems are aligned with their economic policies. The sad thing about the greed of the wealthy is that they can never tell when they’ve won, which is why we have greater inequality today than the French did during their revolution. This country is fucked until something is done about the hoarding of money.
Jon lauds his brother as an academic genius and the reason he chose such a different career path but he's clearly an extremely intelligent man himself. Society would be so well served to recognize and promote all people like him.
But we wont because of the money in politics. It only serves to promote a popularity contest so we had a president in don the con trump that would say before meeting a dictator...'quote, "I hope he likes me and i like him". Jesus christ my fucking kids say that! A comedian said what are they going to do afterwards...FUCK! Please god can we get politics right in america! Its supposed to be a free country but both sides want to tell me what to do and keep us poor!
@Phillip S how sway...? he answered every single one of his questions directly and thoroughly...so how was he avoiding the interview? Again...did you not listen to what he was saying to Chris Wallace...?? They're not on the same plataform. Jon is a comedian first then tries to get some sort of point across...not a theological / ideological point...just another point across as far as how mass media reports things. Why didn't wallace defend as to why a lot of fucks news watchers are some of the most misinformed people? I mean you can go back and forth but remember...the Daily show is on COMEDY CENTRAL man...
Chris thought this would be easy, to belittle Jon here, but,,, nope. Not even close. Btw, to Chris, Obama was one of the best Presidents who got us, once again, out of Bush and Cheney's disaster of a recession.
Jon Stewart was so spot-on accurate with every single comment. The only thing Chris Wallace said that I was WISH was correct was saying that Jon had political aspirations. If ONLY that were true! I firmly believe that NO candidate could possibly stand up to Mr. Stewart in any political arena. Jon's breadth and depth of knowledge, coupled with his good humor and real likeability, would make him an unstoppable force that would have a real chance of uniting (some) people that would otherwise never consider working together for the greater good.
Chris Wallace is unbelievably condescending this entire interview. He's trying to tell Stewart that he doesn't know what his own job is, what his own motivations are, like he'd know better than Stewart himself...
John even kept saying "Are you suggesting that we are alike?". John knew what he was doing. Even that stupid ass "I accept your apology." at the end. That was only to make the idiots who watch fox news think they got in the last hit and made him crumble. This behavior is exactly what John is talking about.
And you know what? I think Jon Stewart, despite his protests, IS a political player, not a hugely partisan one, but certainly political. Wallace was right about Stewart's dodge.
@@AceofDlamonds If Jon were a political player, he would relish every opportunity to have political influence, but he rarely makes public appearances. When he does, it’s for the comedy. He’s never given even a hint about running for office.
Michael Farrell Even if that's true... its not true now. I think that's why Stewart is essentially gone from the current 2018 political commentary. Because if he were honest, he'd say that in the past two years most liberal-biased media has become FOX News.
right, but the type of fox news viewer you're talking about doesn't like Chris Wallace/Shepherd Smith anyway, they think they are democrats or RINOs. And unfortunately their air time is very small anyways.
@@michaelfarrell4824 "People listen to fox news because of tribalism " and because they lack the capacity to examine and justify the contradictory nature of their own beliefs, it's easier to have somebody spoon feed you.
Jon never said he wasn't a news guy... his point was that it's pathetic that as a satirist he's given credibility in this world because of people's lack of faith and disappointment in news outlets
It's like working at a job that you know is bullshit all across the board but you're doing your damned hardest to have a high moral compass trying to stave off the bullshit before you just give up because you know you should've jumped ship a long time ago. I could only ever stand to even squint my eyes at Fox if I knew Chris was going to be on, but after he left I knew Fox was truly dead in the water. Glad he left.
Your description accurately narrates my last job that I covered me ass at for 4 years just for them to terminate me without any given reason despite asking multiple times. I was a loud mouth towards advocating change within the company of getting things working more efficiently. The Friday before getting fired on Monday I asked who to report my HR manager to and got the boot
Amazing how current Stewart sounds six years after the taping. As commenters have said for years, Wallace did not understand that Stewart clubbed him to death with wit, charm and intelligence.
I'm 63 and this is the most monumental debate between very differing ideological perspectives that I have the pleasure to watch. Kudos to both these men
Chris: Fox News isn't biased, we are the counter weight to CNN John: So you're the opposite of CNN? Chris: Yes John: So you're biased Chris: I hate you
@@boomerfunnyjimgaffigan4998 It was a joke satirizing Chris Wallace constantly bringing reasons he thinks other networks were liberally biased to counter Jon's point of Fox having a right wing bias with Jon explaining the difference in the bias of Fox and other news channels/papers. In addition Chris also tries to weirdly lump Jon with news channels and at points just randomly criticize him which lends to the joke of him saying to Jon "I hate you"
Chris Wallace: you are trying to be a politician and your "humor" is your way of being an activist. John: I'm a comedian first and I want to be funny more than anything. Yes I have political views and I'm on a network called Comedy Central. Why am I being taken seriously when my main goal is to make people laugh. Chris Wallace: you are on the same network as Southpark. So how can anyone take you seriously. John: 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ thank you for not listening to a word I just said.
I mean, when they showed the CC clip, that proved that the intent of the interview was not to "understand" Stewart. The clip, combined with the condescending "just remember, that's where you work" shows they had always meant to use that segment to attack Stewart. You don't prepare clips like that "on-the-fly". Those things must be done in advance.
@@AEON. You are right about 2016, but Jon was citing a study that showed Fox News viewers to be the worst informed about the news. I'm not saying the study was correct, just that it was what Stewart was referring to. This interview predated the 2016 election by 5 years,
It's even more true, I would say, now than ever before. Fox points to him and says "we are credible! We have an anchor who asks the hard questions." And then cuts into Wallace's time to give Tucker some more time to spout his right nationist statements.
January 6th, during the insurrection, Laura Ingram floats the lie, live on Fox News, that some storming the Capitol were identified as Antifa. Six months later 75% of Republicans believe Antifa was behind it. There is no equivalent to that level of organized propaganda in the guise of news.
10:36 "I think that you are here... to bring a credibility and an integrity, to an organization that might not otherwise have it." "I just no longer felt comfortable with the programming at Fox." -- Chris Wallace on why he quit.
Chris Wallace takes himself way too seriously. This is way lame. I expected and hoped for more. But at least Jon got his parking validated - but not him or his show. This is pre-Roger Ailes as perv days by the way.
I love watching Jon Stewart in discussions like this. He has an enormous wealth of knowledge and insight and is clearly brilliant. It would be a thrill to sit down and have a conversation like this with him.
@@glennatkinson9948 A clown by trade with an audience that respects his social commentary. He is also the target of the very Farcical Opinionated Xenophobic noise he was criticizing Aussies say the most poisonous toxic creature in Australia is now in America infecting it with the Ailes that never wain. People that watch no news are better informed than fans of tucker's Farcical Alt-Right Turpitudes aka F.A.R.T.s for short who truly believe his F.A.R.T.s are the common scents they've sought. Murdoch's poison is nonsense but it makes cents for tucker.
Jon: yeah you're great, you're good at your job. Interviewer: yeah well you work on comedy central so people shouldn't take you seriously. Jon: yeah for sure... Interviewer:... Yeah but you have south park on your network... Jon: yeah it's great. Interviewer: *starts short circuiting*
Same thing happened on Crossfire. Jon's line "The lead in to my show is puppets making crank calls. Do you really want to compare your show to mine?" They all try and make Jon into a Newsman doing comedy when he's a comedian doing news.
Many Fox viewers see anyone left of Joe McCarthy as "left wing"? Ronald Reagan would be called a lefty if he were alive today. by Fox's definition, 90% of the country is "left wing".... which really negates the concept of left and right.
conor m And consistently an audience that is: most lied to, least informed, least environmentally conscious, and most likely to die from Covid while also taking the fewest precautions www.snopes.com/ap/2020/09/23/debunked-covid-story-prompts-differing-responses-on-fox-news/ arstechnica.com/science/2011/11/fox-news-successfully-creates-climate-confusion-but-only-among-conservatives/ www.journalism.org/2020/04/01/cable-tv-and-covid-19-how-americans-perceive-the-outbreak-and-view-media-coverage-differ-by-main-news-source/ www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-apologizes-for-confusing-john-lewis-for-elijah-cummings www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-ent-debunked-coronavirus-story-fox-news-20200922-y7ggqsumtrg5do3qjphv5aj22u-story.html?outputType=amp www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/08/five-facts-about-fox-news/?amp=1
I don't see why people are giving props to Wallace. He was bush league this entire interview. Changing topics, trying to hurt Jon's image with South Park references, interrupting, I could go on. Pushing that agenda Fox wants. Jon's was too smart for this.
They are giving him props because sometimes, he appears to be objective or ask questions the rest of the Foxbots don't. He's as much a conservative as a douchebag like O'Reilly, but he doesn't breathe fire, so they treat him like he's a moderate. He's just a better behaved douchebag. The only person on Fox News who may be trusted is Shep Smith, and really, for somebody like that to be on the network, for as long as he has been there, he must have dirt on somebody.
The bar is clearly set very low for anyone on Fox, but it is hard for me to see how anyone could watch this and not think that Jon made him look stupid.
@J.A. Bristol So is everyone on Fox lmao. Plus fox is the most mainstream of all the media, they had the most viewers for awhile lmao. You're a good sheep.
@J.A. Bristol Your lack of knowledge on this subject is staggering, and it demonstrates that you either have never watched John or simply choose to swallow the slop Fox feeds to you. Stewart was consistently hard on the Obama administration for the things that he thought weren't being handled well, he regularly made a joke of his hatred of CNN (and the other liberal news networks, to a lesser extent), and he was consistent in both critique and celebration for people doing the things that he considers to be "right". So do us all a favor and fuck off with everything you just said, you ignoramus.
He precisely nailed HIMSELF. He's been mired in leftist milieu for decades and of course he just can't understand there's the other side of the story. He is to some extent aware of his own ideology, but doesn't understand the EXTENT of his own ideology - he probably thinks he's close to 'average' - and he probably IS 'average' - in a leftist environment. It's like asking a fish does it think the water is cold. Of course it's not cold to it when it's completely used to it.
Nicholas Brown he lost?? Seriously? Did you actually watch this? Jon answered every point with a strong reason why Wallace's narrative was false. The poll point is true. Every poll. Who was also the most trust name in news? Jon Stewart, again according to every poll. Wallace came off as an out of touch smug neocon. I mean, "South Park"? Comedy Central Roast of Pamela Anderson. Give me a break. Is the slogan of Comedy Central "Fair and Balanced"? Heck no. It's a comedy network. That's the prism thru which Jon operated on.
@@takatamiyagawa5688 No, Takata Miyagawa, you are incorrect. First, PolitiFact is not in any way an arbiter of these situations, other than they say they're the ultimate arbiter of such situations. Perhaps you should study up on such terms as "misinformed", "ill-informed", "objective", and "subjective". And seriously bud, "made Stewart walk back that statement later"???? Are you seriously that stupid? Or is it brainwashing? Shut up with your idiocy and your spouting off.
@@zurichgnome6073 It's not like I think the methodology used was perfect, but Stewart accepted the verdict anyway, saying on his show "I defer to (PolitiFact's) judgment and apologize for my mistake. To not do so would be irresponsible." www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/jun/20/jon-stewart/jon-stewart-says-those-who-watch-fox-news-are-most/
Jon and The Daily Show attracted my attention in my early 20’s because of witnessing the absurdity happening with the news media and Bush Jrs administration. Jon wasn’t some kind of beacon of ideology to look towards. It was entertaining to consume the chaos happening in government during the time. Colbert’s first sketches are so hilariously good, I’m sad I can’t find them anywhere. Fox always been Fox’n. Jon Stewart is a brilliant man and should be treasured.
@@EncourageSquirt funny you say that. i was listening to a British podcast and the host said the main difference between the US and Britain was that the Liberals in the US were the radical Conservatives in the UK. so essentially in the UK Joe Biden would be pushing a Trump like agenda
"The embarrassment is that I'm given credibility in this world because of the disappointment that the public has in what the news media does." - Jon Stewart Stewart tried so hard to explain to Wallace the problem but Wallace just didn't want to hear it.
"It Is Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something When His Salary Depends Upon His Not Understanding It" Wallace made a lot of money at Fox. And isn't that Stewart's point? Tabloid hysteria sells.
It's so crazy to watch this after Jon retired. Chris Wallace said with such confidence that Jon wants to be a political player and Jon genuinely tried to get Chris to understand that he has absolutely no interest in that but because Chris is so embedded in the industry that he cannot fathom how someone with as much political influence as Jon could ever be *just happy* living a normal life. We now know that Jon was absolutely genuine. He has no political interest. He wants his voice heard about issues that matter to him but mostly, he wants to drive his knuckleheaded kids to and from school.
So many of us actually wish he had more interest in being a political player. If he were a little less smart, or had a little more ego, we could have a really good candidate.
@@intpandemic7779 same. I totally understand why he didn’t at this time. His show must’ve been exhausting. But to come back now with another show, I hope he gets sick of it and runs asap
And there are so many of us who feels the same. We don’t have political aspirations we just want our voices to be heard and thats why Jon was so much liked.
Chris is right. Every time he, Jon, would get on his pollical soapbox and get questions about it he'd jump back into his I'm a comedian suit of amor. kind like the guy who tells his friends to hold him back just before he sucker punches the person he's fighting with and retreats behind his friends by saying I'm a comedian. In this case he hides behind his "I'm a comedian" shield. I'm starting to believe Jon wouldn't know bias if it jumped up and slapped him in the face.
What a fantastic exchange between two very brilliant, in my opinion, observers of politics and current events, at times I laughed so hard it hurt. I respect each of them for their integrity and insight…loved this!
And learn from the best at how to wit and genius charm your way out of a narcissist’s banter buttered with: “I just want to know baby. Who are you inside, really?”
They said the moment Jon Stewart became the "most trusted man in America," was when he first was starting on "The Daily Show," and he went on "CrossFire," and destroyed Tucker Carlson and that other guy. He almost single handley got that show taken off the air. It's great because walking in he knew he was on a real News network thats been around for a long time. And here he comes in, a man who's show is barely new and airs on Comedy Central. He wasn't trying the be the funny man. Tucker Carlson even said "I thought you were gonna be funny?" Jon Stewart just stopped talking, looked at him, and with the straightest face said, "No, no. I'm not your monkey." And the tore them apart. I bring that up because as great as this interview was. And as much as I have to admit that when it comes to FOX News, Chris Wallace isn't that bad, compared to the rest. But at the 15:05 mark, anyone see a look in Jon Stewart's eyes that really got to you? The way he was telling Chris Wallace how FOX News has the most misinformed viewers and how he repeated "FOX News," I have rarely seen Jon Stewart so intimidating. I love Jon Stewart just like everyone else. I believe he's very funny and has a cool and different way to look at the news. By no stretch of the imagination should anyone ONLY watch "The Daily Show," and have that be their only source of News. But it is a great alternative when you're tired of watching the same new stories on every other channel. Watch 'The Daily Show," but dont ONLY watch "The Daily Show." You need to hear News from all around from each side and corner.
I think Jon would agree on that. We all need to take in at least a few different perspectives, from different parts of the poitical or ideological spectrum, to really get a sense of who is saying what and how different people view the same things, events and people. If nothing else, it teaches us just how much bias there is in various forms of media. Which teaches us to be skeptical in a healthy way.
Comedians have far too much sway in this society. The natural evolution of the liberal comedic point of view is to go on a cocksure jokefest about their candidate and have no clue as to what happened when that candidate lost. Who's seen Hilary since the election? Obama has more influence. Did these comedic Democrats even care if their candidate was seriously fit for the job while they focused on the absurdity of the opponent? They got what they wanted-- a Republican President who writes jokes for them. Jon Stewart routinely called his show "immature". He's saying, "Warning: don't follow me I'm only in it for the joke". Yet people treat these comedians like a fast track to understanding. Yea fast track like fast food-- tastes good at the time but ridiculously unhealthy over the long haul. Also, like fast food establishments, they won't be the ones to tell you when their product is no longer healthy for you to consume. When faulty policies bankrupt everyone else, they'll still be taking money to tell jokes like "Ha ha you just gave me your last dollar to laugh at your poverty". This is not about conservative is the answer, these comedians all happen to be liberals. Ever since the end of the Cold War, America stopped taking the leadership of this country seriously, like hey we can't lose. Anyone else see this as a problem?
drasticwillb I agreed with everything you said up until the last couple of sentences. Every president we elected, before President Trump, had plans for what they wanted to accomplish. Clinton did and Trump did not. Yet the one who was elected did not have a set plan or a vision of what he wanted to accomplish. So this is the first President who was chosen based on your assertion: “hey, we can’t lose”
Reality is, people say they aren't political. By the very nature of humanity, we are all political. As Robert Heinlein so eloquently stated, " Politics is only slightly less important than your heartbeat."
If you were a conservative, you would understand. If you have ever seen Good Morning Vietnam, the conservatives are the higher ranking officers. The General is not, he is a classic Republican. He gets the humour.
It's political commentary operating under the guise of "Comedy". If it was straight up comedy, you would see a balanced mix of conservatives and liberals on their program. But you don't.
@@Merknilash nah, the bias is a extremely exaggerated. CNN is pretty center, MSNBC is pretty damn bias today tho and Jon in this clip from what 9 years ago eve mentions that they are taking notes from Fox and it’s seems they did. I’d say they are the counter to Fox. But this idea that everything is completely biased is just a way for you to pretend that news you don’t like to hear is fake.
@@Merknilash you’ve been brainwashed to think the only center news is right wing propaganda. Fox has always been far right and CNN was always center, but look at Trump. He’s never off his phone so of course there was always a story. That clip I just posted is a good example of how this fake news garbage started and how you fell for it. He can say anything is fake and you’ll believe it.
@@AL3X2011 /rolleyes. I used to be a brainwashed, useful idiot like yourself. Then I saw all the rampant bias for myself CNN is nothing but establishment propaganda now Fake news garbage started because they literally fucking pump fake news all day long - anonymous source after anonymous source, lie after lie, debunked after debunked - but they shout the lie and whisper the retraction.
This aged well. Wallace reading Stewart's description of FNC as a propaganda delivery is spot on. After 18 years, even Wallace had enough of Tucker Carlson's lies. And wouldn't we all be better off with a 2022 sequel of these two rehashing these arguments? (Obviously, said sequel can not occur at Wallace's former employer.)
I love this interview. Stewart is so eloquent, and open-minded, and willing to engage, and making good points, with grace and humor. Wallace himself can't help but chuckle at times. And Stewart disarms Wallace in several instances. He is whip smart.
@Sylvester Banini The article mentions several studies, and they don't all rank Fox at the bottom, undercutting Stewart's assertion that "every poll" shows Fox viewers are the most misinformed. If you're going to break it down by show, you can't ignore that viewers of certain Fox shows such as The O'Reilly Factor were judged to be well-informed, sometimes better than Stewart's own show. The article also notes that highly political programming attracts a niche audience, which is already well-informed from other sources. Bottom line for me is that Stewart accepted Politifact's conclusion, and it was even on his own show. He didn't have to go that far, but he did.
@@takatamiyagawa5688 If I read it correctly (overflew it), the studies "disproving" Jon had general knowledge questions and are more kind of a "which network viewer is the dumbest" result, not the most misinformed. When they ask about who is prime minister of the UK, that has nothing to do with misinformation. The study which asked whether Obama was born in the USA, if they think the majority was for the Iraq war and so on - well... that study did not speak for Fox viewers. Jon's right.
@Sylvester Banini They are consistently in the lowest group. Are they the bottom of the barrel in its entirety? No. Probably not as low as Info Wars watchers lol But hey, even if this claim is "False" It's a pretty damning report for Fox News viewers, and I think the sentiment of Jonh's claim is valid.
13:00 to 15:00 Jon makes his strongest point about the failure of all media outlets and Chris Wallace flat out agrees with him. And we should give Wallace credit for letting him talk for 2 minutes straight. I bet his producer was annoyed that he didn't keep interrupting him.
lol I love that Jon interrupts Wallace to say that Matt and Trey are brilliant, with no need and serving no function in the argument, just because he felt it had to be said.
Anthony Campos Chris Wallace absolutely destroyed him here.. I think so anyway but I just slipped off a chair changing a light bulb and banged my head on the sink.
He's intelligent and a smart debater, but genius is a stretch. Any good lawyer can debate like him. They just don't have his snarky sense of humor. Because he leans left, people idolize him. Remember, right-wingers idolize Trump. That don't make him a genius.
The best interviewers ask a good question and listen to the answer. If the question is good one the answer will be long and interesting and won't require interruption.
12:55 John Stewart cuts him off here bc he's getting to the most important point people often forget about, which is that the 24 hour news cycle has lead to misinformation, or the lack thereof, and division.
it's not mentioned enough but the bit that immediately followed about pelosi and weiner and the news networks was left out of the original airing of the interview on Wallace's show.
I agree with you. Fox has been overtaken by opinion goons and Chris Wallace's work isn't really valued there anymore. It's a wonder he hasn't resigned yet.
Fox is never gonna be "more like this", because there's only 1 C. Wallace on Fox and as Stewart said, C. Wallace is there for credibility, "counter weight to S. Hannity
Yes, they both have to be respected, they are doing it because they take pride in their profession and they want to do it as best as possible. The rare, old, dying breed. And unfortunately, this country is not for old men.
"I've existed in this country forever. It's you guys that have moved closer to me." Man, he hit the nail on the head. And ten years later it's gotten even worse.
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Jon is literally elite level debater. Chris Wallace is, for whatever you think of him, an advanced interviewer and debater. Jon runs absolute circles around him while being ambushed by all the questions.
Because, as he said, Jon is driven to be humorous and Chris is driven to be relentlessly activist.
I was mildly impressed with Wallace. He had many carefully laid traps, and didn't get thrown by Stewart like most people do. Stewart had to actually slow down to navigate things at multiple points to not get caught, whereas he usually dances all round folks so quickly they don't even realize they got got.
On the other hand, Stewart walked right into the lion's den, and though he had to be careful it still was not a terribly difficult "battle."
It was kind of like watching a top rated highschool basketball player face off against an NBA superstar.
Because he uses classic false arguments like "strawman" attacks constantly?
@@dmnhntr86 lol
Wallace's problem is that his position is incoherent and Stewart is correct about everything.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” Upton Sinclair
Dang
Chris Wallace is by far the best Faux News has. Hannity is a blatant idiot
Good God... That pretty much explains it. Thank you, Barry
holy shit. mind blown
@@brianbarefoot6574 dropout lol
10 years later and Jon Stewart's description of Fox News still can't be argued against.
Pure Hypocrisy!! You gotta be a complete buffoon to believe Fox is the only network that's biased nothing is further from the truth!!
And Chris left cuz he had enough of Fox 😄
And now we find out Fox News literally hated trump as much as the rest of us did
Also worth noting that the networks they’re talking about like CNN and NBC absolutely did adopt the Fox News style partisanship once Trump came along. It’s maybe not as cynical and corrosive but now I can’t blame anyone for having trust issues with these networks. Just stick to Associated Press I guess
And in fact his description of Fox news is corroborated in Fox documents (inc. emails and texts) turned over to the court/lawyers in the Dominion voting suit.
“The embarrassment is that I’m given credibility in this world because of what the news media does” go off Jon
And… we live with despair.
When Wallace said lets talk about your network and showed the tommy lee clip..I wish Jon had countered with, what's my networks name, and what's yours.
@@uascottcan I ask how old you all are? No disrespect by it. I just want to know where this resurgence of these clips are coming from and wondering if it is the young crowd catching on or just the old heads looking for nostalgia. Genuinely curious.
@@steverogers6572 22, I just love to watch jon stewart debate, he thinks things through so quickly that you know he was actually aware of what was happening (specifically with FOX sensationalism) and really he is that awesome combination of smart and funny. I dont know if the polarization of modern politics is unsalvagable but there is some nostalgia for old debate.
Who would’ve thought in 2020, Chris Wallace would be hated by people who watch Fox News
Yeah, they think he’s “too far left”...
Back then I thought wow he's not a crazy person that's weird that he's on Fox
Stewart called it 10 years ago. “How often do you appear on my show.” Wallace has always been the voice of reason for Fox News. For whatever that’s worth...
Yeah no respect for people who are bought
That's when you realise how much of a cult trumpism is. Their God cannot be even slightly criticised
I love how 10 years later, Chris Wallace probably looks back on this and goes 'yeahhhhhh Jon wasn't exactly wrong'
This comment is even more on the nose with Chris Wallace now leaving Fox.
@@jonholbrook8821 Chris Wallace was a legitimately good reporter despite his employer and partisan views. Kind of sad to see him leave Fox as he was one of the last semi-contrarian voices. It worries me to see who they'll pick up, they'll will likely carry a lot more explicit bias than Wallace.
@@rusty75369 I agree. Now that Wallace is gone, is there any legitimate journalist on the show?
@@jackmedlock5888 Fox can’t afford to not go further right because their base is shifting further right. On the other hand, they can’t afford to be Fox as they face the courts over their lies about the companies that supply the voting machines. They fed hate and they will be consumed by it either way.
@@michael1345 hold on now, they’re the main thruster for why the right is becoming more right. If they really wanted to bring them back to reality, they would.
They think he came there to play politics. The man just wanted his parking validated.
Typhoid water
@@sebastiansebastian5270 I would take as many wrapped snacks as possible. Btw, Fox always calls him Jon Liebowitz as if he changed his name for hiding his Jewish essence but he actually did not care about his dad who ditched them and took his mom's maiden name, Stewart
@@Shan2TheBoner1987 Actually, his middle name is Stuart.
@@Shan2TheBoner1987 trfay
He sweats out these things, Jon does, the quintessential nervous wreck political hack comedian that wants to be taken seriously but not out loud, because hiding behind his "comedian" label allows him all of the privilege of a thoroughly biased political commentator without having to actually take ownership of his leftist views.
Jon Stewart's description of Fox News has aged like Keanu Reeves.
That is solid. Well done.
I'll one-up you... it's aged like Paul Rudd.
@@rickpapineau5939 I'll throw a Michael Ironside card and add 5 more chips.
🤣
Good one.
"They jumped into the weiner pool, with such relish"
Can we just appreciate that Jon threw this out there and never even got a smile?
I was literally just appreciating that before I read your comment.
and that he was looking to see if Chris would get silly with him.
I honestly thought it was unintentional but I cracked up when I heard it
@@jedinxf7 SAME!! Omg, I love him. I love Trevor too but I could not see him doing this in the world we live in today. Fox is too insane for this shite now
Damn to be fair I missed it too ha! Genius.
Wallace: Let me give you another example.
Stewart: Ok.
*Plays example*
Wallace: Well how do you explain that one huh?
Stewart: So I thin-
Wallace: Let me give you another example.
Exactly, why should Chris or Fox News care so much of what goes on with Comedy central??? They are threatened that people who watch CC will hate Conservatives. Who the hell cares?
fox news template
"Can I give you another example?" "NO! NO!"
It's an ironic joke that fox network like is actively comparing itself to other comedy networks 😂
12:40 I think he's downplaying the significance of omitting information that would give a different impression, but I'm making this comment 9 years later when the US is considerably more partisan.
-and while politifact put Jon in a position where he had to walk back his comment at 15:00 about Fox viewers being consistently the most misinformed, that may have changed too.
chris wallace contradicted himself so much, he said at one point that fox is always fair and balanced and then many times said "we tell the other side of the story", how is that not partisan bias !!??
Absolutely right. You can't be "Fair and Balanced" and "...a counterweight" at the same time. Physics doesn't allow that.
Nalin Goel - also news is supposed to be reporting facts. What’s the other side of the story in respect to facts? Fiction?
The whole agenda is making a fairly extreme ideology look like one side of a 50/50 debate. It's like providing a "counterweight" to the fact that smoking tobacco is bad for you. But what about the other side of the argument? Yeah it's a 50/50 debate but the evidence is NOT 50/50. Fox News's schtick is the old tobacco lobbyist disinformation playbook applied to things like climate change and... now, the coronavirus
RossKempOnYourMum01 Exactly. It’s also funny when the right criticizes people like Jon for mainly going after the right but it’s like... that’s where the comedy is though. The right has way more characters and ridiculous people who make ridicule statements. The left has gotten a little crazier in current times with the PC stuff but back around the time of this interview, there was no Herman Cain equivalent on the left. Remember that one conservative who said a raped woman’s body has a way of self-aborting a fetus so there’s no reason for abortion to be legal? How about Texas trying to teach creationism in the science class? How about a character like Alex Jones? There’s just a shit ton more crazy in the right so that’s naturally where the comedy is. So it’s also a fallacy when the right criticizes people like Stewart for not being 50/50 in their satire of both sides as well.
He probably meant they tell both sides of the story, while others would only tell one. To be fair though, Wallace, Shep Smith (before he quit) and Neil Cavuto would be on the left edge of Fox, with Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson on the right edge, so you'd have to listen to different hosts to get both sides of anything.
His statement at 10:40 about Chris Wallace being a counterweight to pundits like Hannity seems more true than ever now.
Jon Stewart is like the final boss of any Fox News host.
And he is for sure undefeated. The guy is brilliant.
Except Bill O'Reilly. Bill took Jon to task.
@@davidcrane6593untrue 😂
@@davidcrane6593 I don't know about all that, but Bill O'Reilly was actually a very intelligent person, and not a total asshole or sellout. He's obviously a bad person with all we've seen in at least that one big regard, and he has some really bad views, but he's smart and capable enough to match wits with John Stewart. And he also did so on an equal and most importantly friendly level (rare in one side versus the other), part serious and part comedy, he could match the energy and was a good showman. That also would have been his downfall, I don't think bill O'Reilly would have ever went full on conspiracy theory and excitational sensationalist nonsense like Fox news has been pushing its primetime hosts to lately. As much as I dislike the man, I don't think he would be cool with Tucker Carlsons conspiracy and racist nonsense, and especially not Laura Ingram and what she did in the wake of the Florida school shooting, the single most despicable display fox news has ever put on. And I think he would especially not enjoy seeing hannity, at one time his equal and who also behaved in a similar manner, fall to this horrible conspiracy theorist behavior. I think that's why Chris Wallace quit. It's wholly why Shepard Smith got fired, literally for not going with the narrative, as requested by Donald trump himself. Shepard Smith was the last piece of true shining journalistic integrity the network had, used to dedicate alot of his show to refuting the nonsense hannity was spreading.
@@mikemcmullen5006 it's weird how both sides worship their candidate and won't confess they are both really vile lying pieces of crap.
"The bias of the mainstream media is sensationalism, conflict, laziness." Man I miss stewart
The problem I see with the argument that the mainstream is "lazy" is that the laziness only comes into play on one side and not the other
@@grindelo5868 i think he was referring to the laziness of the media's viewers...not to research what they hear on the media. That's what I got from it at least
Hmmm, guess I didn't think of it that way. Either way, I think both would probably see it a bit different in 2020
@@grindelo5868 oh wallace sings a whole different tune now. But I wonder about Stewart. He always seemed to lean to the dems side back in the day, but the dems stood for different things back then. I always thought Stewart's allegiances were to equality, fairness, freedom of speech, the right to disagree. I'm not sure the dems have those same values now, or if they ever did.
Yeah, a lot has changed in just a couple years
I think it's funny he brings up South Park as a bash on Stewart...South Park is way more informed and nuanced than Fox News any day.
South Park is one of the few shows that goes after liberals AND conservatives - eg the anti gay christian camp and the PC principal characters, both great satire of 2 different perspectives
@@RossKempOnYourMum01 What I respect most about Trey Parker and Matt Stone is they will go after ANYBODY!!! I believe that's why they've stayed on the tube as long as they have.
@kainoamh And to be able to maintain such a high quality show, and keeping fresh after so many years is also an accomplishment.
@@RossKempOnYourMum01 so if vote for me, then a merica. good. gooood
@@RossKempOnYourMum01 it isn't about liberals and conservatives on South Park. Its about exposing hypocrisy. They really aren't a political show. They just aren't afraid to call people out on their hypocrisy
Fox news accuses Jon Stewart of pushing an agenda?
LMAO
The elephant in the room, right? It's so absurd. But that's the whole purpose. Pretending they aren't doing what they're doing.
Roger ailes was a scumbag, but also a genius. They knew what they were doing getting Jon Stewart on fox news. And now, trump is president.
Yup. He is....and so are ALL the news outlets (pushing their agendas). Jon not admitting that CNN is biased, shows his bias, ironically.
They both push agendas
Yea they hate him. He owned bill o'Reilly
Jon Stewart explains himself clearly and consistently over and over, and Wallace never quite gets it.
To paraphrase Mark Twain....
It is very hard to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him NOT understanding it.
@@zenkim6709 Upton Sinclair
He gets it alright
Wallace thought this was going to be an easy hit job on Stewart. Boy was he wrong.
nuculearbazooka yeah he definitely did, Jon said it himself, what he does is harder.
@Andrea Mendenhall Just because his views are closer to the left than the right, doesn't mean that he is a full blown leftist propaganda speakerphone.
Chris Wallace's examples hurt the impact of what he was trying to say greatly and was a stupid move all-around, that being said I don't disagree with his main point at all. Stewart keeps using the word "idealogical" like its an antonym of partisan, when really since he has personal liberal ideologies its the exact same thing. There's a lot of history of the daily show, especially now under Trevor Noah, omitting and misrepresenting interviews and news stories to push a liberal agenda no question. Stewart is so intelligent though that it's basically impossible to catch him slipping up like that and he obviously didn't here.
Wallace is fucking idiot!! Stewart is a comedian, Wallace is a propagandist
@HeyMildred Funny how in American, rational is now considered liberal talking points. Oh, how the Republicans have fallen from its past glory and rationality.
I would give a year of my life to keep Jon Stewart on the air.
Just to clarify, I'd give one of the shittier years where everything hurts and I eat pudding for lunch. like 84. He can have 84.
@@jakkw6703 Ima pitch in a few years of my life myself, maybe we can make a deal
Just one??
That is so sad dude.
That is so sad dude. You would be dead and I don't have cable.
Jon, an incredible debater.
XHeroZA I love when he got a little testy and said "that's the disappointment, that I'm given credibility in this world"...!
Kinda easy when the interviewer is just tossing softballs. Wallace seriously threw the weakest punches (But probably the only ones he had).
Jarred Can it's hard to call something a debate when he's spending so much time trying to cut off Jon's answers. He was asking softer questions, but the intention was to try to deligitimise Jon, even just a bit.
Oh you could for sure tell it was an attempt at "Gotcha" moments, but they were totally amateur and Jon dispelled them immediately.
Fox threw their best guy at him, and he was so flustered by about the third minute that he wouldn't let Stewart complete his well-rounded arguments. I don't think Chris Wallace was ready for that, even if he'd been exposed to it already.
His comparison of himself to Mark Twain came full circle this year when he won the prize
What a goat
There’s a mutual respect here that really elevates this conversation. Civil disagreement is hard to come by in cable news, especially Fox.
Jon is right: Chris Wallace elevates Fox news' credibility.
I'd really like to have these two sit down for a long-form podcast. Fox obvious gave Wallace a charged statement/premise to work with. I think these two could sit down and have a great talk about their differing opinions on policy.
Tucker Carson, as ridiculously one-sided as his opinions sometimes tend to be, has had respectful disagreement interviews too sometimes. Andrew Yang for example
I know where you're coming from with the fox news statement. I used to think the same way..used to.
Civil like Victorian arguments. “Oh so you intend to attack my fields? Very well we shall meet in battle” “Very well then sir. A battle we shall have” in the most calm breath
"Being a comedian is harder than what you do" - this is true. Comedians consider the fullest contexts, and then drive through that process of context to hit on the absurdity of things. It takes a lot of thinking to get there.
They work a lot harder (comedians, not presenters like Wallace 😁)
I know it's two years later but I so agree with this comment. What presenters like Wallace do is point and direct and tell their viewers what to think. What comedians do is build a mirror and hold it to us and to the system and give us a perspective outside of both that highlights the absurdity of believing that system is for our benefit and believing that we're doing good by empowering certain aspects of that system when it's all the same system.
Chris Wallace's smugness is really irritating in this interview (attempted hit piece)
He comes across as very unintelligent in this compared to Stewart
Anyone who tries to go up against Jon Stewart loses. He’s too prepared, smart and too eloquent. And he’s able to channel his emotions into what he’s saying without lowering himself to their shenanigans.
Jesus Christ John Stewart is fast lol... he really is a genius
@Toori Baba John has more integrity stored in his left testicle then you will have your entire life
@joe: He is not only really fast, but he's clearly thought all of these subjects through in great depth. He's not just winging it. He's also a very smart debater. Stewart quickly detected that Wallace's strategy was to overwhelm Stewart with data points and put him on the defensive. And he refused to play along. He insisted upon discussing each data point in depth. I like and respect Chris Wallace, but it was disappointing to see him resort to that kind of "gotcha" approach. That said, I think Wallace knew Stewart would be a handful and that Wallace's only chance was to be hyper-prepared to maintain command of the conversation (which he ultimately failed to do).
Being a new york comic is hard
I think John Stewart is a genius too - but I don't think he had to rely on any genius to stand his ground here. The key is Stewart understands what he is doing and what his role is in the media. In contrast, main stream news programs don't understand why he is more popular than they are - but that shouldn't be their concern! The problem is the news will always get less ratings than entertainment programming - but no duh, that's cause entertainers are supposed to be entertaining! The news media is supposed be concerned with reporting ACCURATE FACTS and needs to stop worrying about being entertaining - they should leave that bit to professionals like Stewart. The moment the mainstream news media started caring too much about grabbing our attention with gimmicks and sensationalism was the moment we lost our faith in the news. And they wonder why echo chambers exist? Guess they finally learned how to tell a joke.
Jon stuart is one of the smartest men ive heard speak rhetorically in debate with facts and truth
"...You really think that's a political comment?"
"Yes."
"You're insane."
Lol. Right!!
That’s was funny af. Fox be showing their ass.
That was so hilarious
My dream would be to have Jon and Chris sit down now, October 2020, one month before the craziest election we've ever had, and revisit this very subject.
I don't think Stewart would need to make any new points. Everything he said still holds and rings true today, if anything we're seeing the ruptured organ of Fox News, the tumor they grew that has metastasized. He gave up comedy to go be an activist, that much is true, and he has my respect.
How is this the craziest election ever
@@goodolarchie I disagree. Chris' argument from the very beginning was that Fox News is a counterweight to the leftward learnings of CNN, ABC and other MSM. I think if his argument wasn't evident 9 years ago, it is clearly evident today. CNN as an example, and even MSNBC, are clearly liberally biased news organizations, just as Fox News is clearly a conservatively biased news organization. The sad thing is that people today still refuse to see it - those who get their news from CNN and Fox News aren't just getting the news, they are getting the narrative. Fox News viewers can accept that, it's been the case for years, but CNN and other MSM viewers on the other hand can't. It's tough to fathom that the "news" they have been consuming all this time has been narrative all along.
YES!
@@Cgrowney Well, considering Fox has consistently had more viewers than CNN and MSNBC combined, then wouldn’t that make them the true MSM? The whole thing about the media being left-biased comes from a study done decades ago of news anchors. It wasn’t even about the news content which isn’t even controlled by those anchors. The right has been harping on about those results ever since despite the fact that the very same media outlets those anchors worked for are owned by the wealthy who predominantly vote/support Republicans. Do they give to Dems? Only when those Dems are aligned with their economic policies. The sad thing about the greed of the wealthy is that they can never tell when they’ve won, which is why we have greater inequality today than the French did during their revolution. This country is fucked until something is done about the hoarding of money.
Jon lauds his brother as an academic genius and the reason he chose such a different career path but he's clearly an extremely intelligent man himself. Society would be so well served to recognize and promote all people like him.
But we wont because of the money in politics. It only serves to promote a popularity contest so we had a president in don the con trump that would say before meeting a dictator...'quote, "I hope he likes me and i like him". Jesus christ my fucking kids say that! A comedian said what are they going to do afterwards...FUCK! Please god can we get politics right in america! Its supposed to be a free country but both sides want to tell me what to do and keep us poor!
Conservative here, Jon clearly won this, he seemed rational and open to debate the other guy only had 2 modes attack and defend.
singalexsong attack and defend, fox news in a nutshell
@JJoe God I hope that was sarcasm.
@@robertpresley1503 for real, but i fear it was not?
@@handohall3406 I know right..must be in sum serious denial...
JJoe you are a leftist great and in context of this debate do you think he did not win? And what pleasure do you derive by calling people dumb?
I'm surprised Jon Stewart isn't in prison. I mean, he just murdered Chris Wallace 😂
@Phillip S how sway...? he answered every single one of his questions directly and thoroughly...so how was he avoiding the interview? Again...did you not listen to what he was saying to Chris Wallace...?? They're not on the same plataform. Jon is a comedian first then tries to get some sort of point across...not a theological / ideological point...just another point across as far as how mass media reports things. Why didn't wallace defend as to why a lot of fucks news watchers are some of the most misinformed people? I mean you can go back and forth but remember...the Daily show is on COMEDY CENTRAL man...
@@zeren4422 but' most of Jon's antics are true news wrapped around a funny way.
Chris thought this would be easy, to belittle Jon here, but,,, nope. Not even close. Btw, to Chris, Obama was one of the best Presidents who got us, once again, out of Bush and Cheney's disaster of a recession.
Adam Modrak ??
He really didn’t. I think most people are so in love with Stewart that they refuse to see him lose
It amazes me how on point Jon Stewart's criticism of Fox News is in the era of Trump - 5 years before this nightmare began.
"5 years before the nightmare began" lol so when is the nightmares going to start?
Jasho Beam do you not know how to add 5?
@@harrisonnelms2580 No, please help me?
still waiting for it to begin lol.
Nightmare began w8th bush 2. We woke up for 8 years during Obama, and now we’re asleep.
Jon Stewart was so spot-on accurate with every single comment. The only thing Chris Wallace said that I was WISH was correct was saying that Jon had political aspirations. If ONLY that were true! I firmly believe that NO candidate could possibly stand up to Mr. Stewart in any political arena. Jon's breadth and depth of knowledge, coupled with his good humor and real likeability, would make him an unstoppable force that would have a real chance of uniting (some) people that would otherwise never consider working together for the greater good.
Chris Wallace is unbelievably condescending this entire interview. He's trying to tell Stewart that he doesn't know what his own job is, what his own motivations are, like he'd know better than Stewart himself...
John even kept saying "Are you suggesting that we are alike?". John knew what he was doing. Even that stupid ass "I accept your apology." at the end. That was only to make the idiots who watch fox news think they got in the last hit and made him crumble. This behavior is exactly what John is talking about.
How do you dare to question the integrity of fox NEWS, look what your network does in COMEDY central!
@@slurricrasher9923 For his part Jon laughed it off which tells me who really got the last laugh.
And you know what? I think Jon Stewart, despite his protests, IS a political player, not a hugely partisan one, but certainly political. Wallace was right about Stewart's dodge.
@@AceofDlamonds If Jon were a political player, he would relish every opportunity to have political influence, but he rarely makes public appearances. When he does, it’s for the comedy. He’s never given even a hint about running for office.
Jon was balanced and fair in this interview and probably wasn't heard by a single Fox viewer. He's on the wrong team to them.
Interviewer did a very fair cross as well. Due credit to him
People listen to Stewart because he's smart.... People listen to fox news because of tribalism
Michael Farrell Even if that's true... its not true now. I think that's why Stewart is essentially gone from the current 2018 political commentary. Because if he were honest, he'd say that in the past two years most liberal-biased media has become FOX News.
right, but the type of fox news viewer you're talking about doesn't like Chris Wallace/Shepherd Smith anyway, they think they are democrats or RINOs. And unfortunately their air time is very small anyways.
@@michaelfarrell4824 "People listen to fox news because of tribalism " and because they lack the capacity to examine and justify the contradictory nature of their own beliefs, it's easier to have somebody spoon feed you.
Jon Stewart was a beacon for humour in an otherwise bland news world... I miss him
Man, Trevor's pretty good too.
Freeman Traceur nah its not the same
The point John was making was ‘he’s not news.’ By your comment you’ve proved him wrong.
Jon never said he wasn't a news guy... his point was that it's pathetic that as a satirist he's given credibility in this world because of people's lack of faith and disappointment in news outlets
Jon Stewart and Craig Ferguson were the alltime best imho.
"They jumped into the Weiner pool with....with...with relish". This line is so great lol.
It's funny cuz it took 10 years for Chris Wallace to realize what Jon Stewart called out back in 2011. And that's why Chris just left.
It's like working at a job that you know is bullshit all across the board but you're doing your damned hardest to have a high moral compass trying to stave off the bullshit before you just give up because you know you should've jumped ship a long time ago. I could only ever stand to even squint my eyes at Fox if I knew Chris was going to be on, but after he left I knew Fox was truly dead in the water. Glad he left.
Your description accurately narrates my last job that I covered me ass at for 4 years just for them to terminate me without any given reason despite asking multiple times. I was a loud mouth towards advocating change within the company of getting things working more efficiently. The Friday before getting fired on Monday I asked who to report my HR manager to and got the boot
No, he always knows, it's just he needs safe $$ in
Wallace left?? Are you kidding me - he was “ let go” my dear ….
@@0610doggieHe wasn’t though. He was offered a contract renewal at fox and declined.
Jon Stewart, one of the smartest individuals that's been on television in a long time. We miss you.
Ohhh he's back. Boy is he back!
I was in tears as Jon snapped on Congress last week
@@4Legacy can you link that? i wanna see it
@@boomerfunnyjimgaffigan4998 Sure, it's beautiful
ruclips.net/video/Y2QMqsNvWuc/видео.html
Amazing how current Stewart sounds six years after the taping. As commenters have said for years, Wallace did not understand that Stewart clubbed him to death with wit, charm and intelligence.
I'm 63 and this is the most monumental debate between very differing ideological perspectives that I have the pleasure to watch. Kudos to both these men
Chris: Fox News isn't biased, we are the counter weight to CNN
John: So you're the opposite of CNN?
Chris: Yes
John: So you're biased
Chris: I hate you
i think he said counter weight to abc not cnn. also was this actually said after the first line? I didn't hear it
Daniel Zola lmao it was a joke
@@Soulcation. bro im mad confused
@@boomerfunnyjimgaffigan4998 It was a joke satirizing Chris Wallace constantly bringing reasons he thinks other networks were liberally biased to counter Jon's point of Fox having a right wing bias with Jon explaining the difference in the bias of Fox and other news channels/papers. In addition Chris also tries to weirdly lump Jon with news channels and at points just randomly criticize him which lends to the joke of him saying to Jon "I hate you"
The funny part is nowadays, ABC is considered non-biased compared to Fox.
Chris Wallace: you are trying to be a politician and your "humor" is your way of being an activist.
John: I'm a comedian first and I want to be funny more than anything. Yes I have political views and I'm on a network called Comedy Central. Why am I being taken seriously when my main goal is to make people laugh.
Chris Wallace: you are on the same network as Southpark. So how can anyone take you seriously.
John: 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ thank you for not listening to a word I just said.
I mean, when they showed the CC clip, that proved that the intent of the interview was not to "understand" Stewart. The clip, combined with the condescending "just remember, that's where you work" shows they had always meant to use that segment to attack Stewart. You don't prepare clips like that "on-the-fly". Those things must be done in advance.
John Stewart: talks over Chris Wallace
Chris Wallace: I sure hope THAT'S the last time that ever happens.
@@estevanproductions2064 double jinx
except Chris Wallace interrupted Jon Stewart more than vice versa.
"I love to learn." With that cheeky grin of his, is probably the coldest, most stealthy and slick invitation to get your buttcheeks spanked ever.
Jon Stewart just ripped him apart, made him look silly for even bringing up half the stuff.
He's right, Wallace is there to make it seem serious.
@@AEON. You are right about 2016, but Jon was citing a study that showed Fox News viewers to be the worst informed about the news. I'm not saying the study was correct, just that it was what Stewart was referring to. This interview predated the 2016 election by 5 years,
Glorified Truth Stewart also admitted on his show that the study was wrong. This was debunked by politifact
@@RetiredVet2020 do you know what episode this was? I'm actually curious
To make it seem serious and then proceeds to look extremely not serious. Interviewing a comedian and literally just badgering him.
I would be just as sketched out by chris' insistance to drink that water
It was actually Kool-Aid.
This seemed to me like some kind of silly psychological trick, to get Jon off-balance right at the start.
Right out of Princess Bride
That's Wallace phukkin with him :D
I know right!? Talk about unnerving. Probably the point I guess, but still. Way to go creepy.
He nailed exactly what Wallace's purpose at Fox. Still very true in 2021, and even Wallace himself knows it now.
10 years later still the truth lol...
Better late than Never I guess
It's even more true, I would say, now than ever before. Fox points to him and says "we are credible! We have an anchor who asks the hard questions." And then cuts into Wallace's time to give Tucker some more time to spout his right nationist statements.
January 6th, during the insurrection, Laura Ingram floats the lie, live on Fox News, that some storming the Capitol were identified as Antifa. Six months later 75% of Republicans believe Antifa was behind it. There is no equivalent to that level of organized propaganda in the guise of news.
@@carlodave9 Chris is somewhat partisan, but he never defended the bug lie.
10:36 "I think that you are here... to bring a credibility and an integrity, to an organization that might not otherwise have it."
"I just no longer felt comfortable with the programming at Fox." -- Chris Wallace on why he quit.
This aged so well!!
Watching this now, it's just rewarding to know how correct Stewart was.
When Chris was very insistent Jon drink the water...that was just strange.
his whole crew came up with ONE joke that john take shots at fox, how can he miss that?
It’s 101 trying to dominate your opponent. Cheesy but in zero sum world of right wing US, that is seen as a win.
It's a joke that they're both in on.
@@DueySR yeah i bet you're right haha
just a joke
If only Jon were moderating the debates...
Trump would never agree to it Jon called him a fuck faced clown on Twitter.
That would be heavenly
@@Buluga06 You are right. Trump hates the truth.
Or you know running for president
IDK if he would be great at it. But I'd watch the shit out of that
"Since this is my show, I'm asking the questions".
Yeah, Chris. Could've used that moxy in the presidential debate.
Moxy.. last time I heard that word my Grampa was still alive
@@wandan98 "Moxy" in this context is pretentious indignation. Wallace is a hack
@@christianmaas8934 well he could have used some of that too😂
Moxy were a cool Canadian band if I recall. ruclips.net/video/8oHquY-y4Es/видео.html
Baaaaaam that’s right on.
His point concerning the coverage of Speaker Pelosi's speech by Fox, MSNBC and CNN was perfection.
Chris Wallace is as fair a host as could be expected on fox but his ignorance of the networks bias dilutes his credibility somewhat.
*inability to concede on that point by his superiors
Very well said.
Chris seems like a generally decent and well meaning guy who is true to his beliefs, I don’t like Fox News, but I don’t mind watching Chris.
My thoughts, exactly. Wallace is a token good guy on Fox.
Chris Wallace takes himself way too seriously. This is way lame. I expected and hoped for more. But at least Jon got his parking validated - but not him or his show. This is pre-Roger Ailes as perv days by the way.
I love watching Jon Stewart in discussions like this. He has an enormous wealth of knowledge and insight and is clearly brilliant. It would be a thrill to sit down and have a conversation like this with him.
Too bad shep left
The only good thing on cable news was Shep- especially Chris and Shepherd's interactions.
Who is this clown Jon Stewart??
@@glennatkinson9948 A clown by trade with an audience that respects his social commentary. He is also the target of the very Farcical Opinionated Xenophobic noise he was criticizing
Aussies say the most poisonous toxic creature in Australia is now in America infecting it with the Ailes that never wain. People that watch no news are better informed than fans of tucker's Farcical Alt-Right Turpitudes aka F.A.R.T.s for short who truly believe his F.A.R.T.s are the common scents they've sought. Murdoch's poison is nonsense but it makes cents for tucker.
Imo, JS is right about CW, that he brings a legitimacy to fox. Also their different reasons for deriding the other networks.
Even Wallace got fed up with Fox.
How hilarious that when Chris tried to shame Jon with that Pamela Anderson clip, Jon pissed himself laughing
15:05 the angriest I’ve ever seen Jon. And then he laughs it off right after that . He’s amazing
He was angrier when he was before Congress, fighting for 9/11 first responders to get extended health benefits. And yes he's amazing. Brilliant man.
Fast forward to 2021 and Chris Wallace watches in horror at the unstoppable morons he helped to create.
Agreed tho I fear it’s a horror too strong to bear.. so they will always rationalize it
It’s so delicious watching this knowing Jon was right, Chris was wrong 😁☕️
VOTE CORRECTLY IN NOVEMBER
Jon: yeah you're great, you're good at your job.
Interviewer: yeah well you work on comedy central so people shouldn't take you seriously.
Jon: yeah for sure...
Interviewer:... Yeah but you have south park on your network...
Jon: yeah it's great.
Interviewer: *starts short circuiting*
Same thing happened on Crossfire. Jon's line "The lead in to my show is puppets making crank calls. Do you really want to compare your show to mine?" They all try and make Jon into a Newsman doing comedy when he's a comedian doing news.
Here is the interesting thing....Chris Wallace is seen as left wing by many Fox viewers.
Fox is seriously out of control. I have no idea how they still have commercials (other than Goya xD).
Many Fox viewers see anyone left of Joe McCarthy as "left wing"? Ronald Reagan would be called a lefty if he were alive today.
by Fox's definition, 90% of the country is "left wing".... which really negates the concept of left and right.
Explosive Mallard they still have commercials because they have the most viewers over any other cable news
conor m And consistently an audience that is: most lied to, least informed, least environmentally conscious, and most likely to die from Covid while also taking the fewest precautions
www.snopes.com/ap/2020/09/23/debunked-covid-story-prompts-differing-responses-on-fox-news/
arstechnica.com/science/2011/11/fox-news-successfully-creates-climate-confusion-but-only-among-conservatives/
www.journalism.org/2020/04/01/cable-tv-and-covid-19-how-americans-perceive-the-outbreak-and-view-media-coverage-differ-by-main-news-source/
www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-apologizes-for-confusing-john-lewis-for-elijah-cummings
www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/tv/ct-ent-debunked-coronavirus-story-fox-news-20200922-y7ggqsumtrg5do3qjphv5aj22u-story.html?outputType=amp
www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/04/08/five-facts-about-fox-news/?amp=1
Because he is. He’s a democrat.
"there are no marching orders!" - woof that aged like a fine milk
I don't see why people are giving props to Wallace. He was bush league this entire interview. Changing topics, trying to hurt Jon's image with South Park references, interrupting, I could go on. Pushing that agenda Fox wants. Jon's was too smart for this.
They are giving him props because sometimes, he appears to be objective or ask questions the rest of the Foxbots don't. He's as much a conservative as a douchebag like O'Reilly, but he doesn't breathe fire, so they treat him like he's a moderate. He's just a better behaved douchebag. The only person on Fox News who may be trusted is Shep Smith, and really, for somebody like that to be on the network, for as long as he has been there, he must have dirt on somebody.
@@frankbutler9512 didn't shep get fired for being honest
they are giving him props because he is still a 100 times fairer and more sophisticated than anyone else on Fox.
The bar is clearly set very low for anyone on Fox, but it is hard for me to see how anyone could watch this and not think that Jon made him look stupid.
At 10 minutes Stewart nails it. “You can’t understand that there is not a designed political agenda in what I do...because of the soup you swim in”
@J.A. Bristol So is everyone on Fox lmao. Plus fox is the most mainstream of all the media, they had the most viewers for awhile lmao. You're a good sheep.
@J.A. Bristol Your lack of knowledge on this subject is staggering, and it demonstrates that you either have never watched John or simply choose to swallow the slop Fox feeds to you. Stewart was consistently hard on the Obama administration for the things that he thought weren't being handled well, he regularly made a joke of his hatred of CNN (and the other liberal news networks, to a lesser extent), and he was consistent in both critique and celebration for people doing the things that he considers to be "right". So do us all a favor and fuck off with everything you just said, you ignoramus.
@J.A. Bristol *After reading your last comment* Rightttt……
@J.A. Bristol do you want me to be an echo for ScholasticOG?
He precisely nailed HIMSELF. He's been mired in leftist milieu for decades and of course he just can't understand there's the other side of the story. He is to some extent aware of his own ideology, but doesn't understand the EXTENT of his own ideology - he probably thinks he's close to 'average' - and he probably IS 'average' - in a leftist environment. It's like asking a fish does it think the water is cold. Of course it's not cold to it when it's completely used to it.
"Whose veiwers are consistently misinformed? FOX!!.. EVERY POLL!!"
John was a lil heated.
Chris Wallace was outclassed..
Nicholas Brown he lost?? Seriously? Did you actually watch this? Jon answered every point with a strong reason why Wallace's narrative was false. The poll point is true. Every poll. Who was also the most trust name in news? Jon Stewart, again according to every poll. Wallace came off as an out of touch smug neocon. I mean, "South Park"? Comedy Central Roast of Pamela Anderson. Give me a break. Is the slogan of Comedy Central "Fair and Balanced"? Heck no. It's a comedy network. That's the prism thru which Jon operated on.
Oh Nicholas you silly Brown Shirt did you notice Wallace didn’t object to that statement? Didja kid? Didja?
@@zurichgnome6073 -and politifact made Stewart walk back that statement later.
@@takatamiyagawa5688 No, Takata Miyagawa, you are incorrect. First, PolitiFact is not in any way an arbiter of these situations, other than they say they're the ultimate arbiter of such situations. Perhaps you should study up on such terms as "misinformed", "ill-informed", "objective", and "subjective". And seriously bud, "made Stewart walk back that statement later"???? Are you seriously that stupid? Or is it brainwashing? Shut up with your idiocy and your spouting off.
@@zurichgnome6073 It's not like I think the methodology used was perfect, but Stewart accepted the verdict anyway, saying on his show "I defer to (PolitiFact's) judgment and apologize for my mistake. To not do so would be irresponsible."
www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/jun/20/jon-stewart/jon-stewart-says-those-who-watch-fox-news-are-most/
Jon and The Daily Show attracted my attention in my early 20’s because of witnessing the absurdity happening with the news media and Bush Jrs administration. Jon wasn’t some kind of beacon of ideology to look towards. It was entertaining to consume the chaos happening in government during the time. Colbert’s first sketches are so hilariously good, I’m sad I can’t find them anywhere. Fox always been Fox’n. Jon Stewart is a brilliant man and should be treasured.
Jon is so well-spoken and intelligent. And he just destroys any Fox News clown foolish enough to debate him. I love it.
damn i never understood anything when this was released 7 years ago, but now damn i understand why everyone loves John. So good
It's weird to think Wallace comes across in 2020 as reasonable. Overton window and a post-truth world I guess.
It's ridiculous at how far they've pushed the window off the fucking cliff.
and the cain man is dead =[
chris has always been reasonable.
Just showing exactly how there isn’t a left and a right, but a right, and a far right.
@@EncourageSquirt funny you say that. i was listening to a British podcast and the host said the main difference between the US and Britain was that the Liberals in the US were the radical Conservatives in the UK. so essentially in the UK Joe Biden would be pushing a Trump like agenda
The world needs more Jon Stewart.
"The embarrassment is that I'm given credibility in this world because of the disappointment that the public has in what the news media does."
- Jon Stewart
Stewart tried so hard to explain to Wallace the problem but Wallace just didn't want to hear it.
He had his marching orders.
"It Is Difficult to Get a Man to Understand Something When His Salary Depends Upon His Not Understanding It"
Wallace made a lot of money at Fox. And isn't that Stewart's point? Tabloid hysteria sells.
Geez I miss Jon Stewart, I love how Chris Wallace tries so hard to nail Stewart...but fails.
It's so crazy to watch this after Jon retired. Chris Wallace said with such confidence that Jon wants to be a political player and Jon genuinely tried to get Chris to understand that he has absolutely no interest in that but because Chris is so embedded in the industry that he cannot fathom how someone with as much political influence as Jon could ever be *just happy* living a normal life.
We now know that Jon was absolutely genuine. He has no political interest. He wants his voice heard about issues that matter to him but mostly, he wants to drive his knuckleheaded kids to and from school.
So many of us actually wish he had more interest in being a political player. If he were a little less smart, or had a little more ego, we could have a really good candidate.
Agreed, I desperately want John Stewart to run for President.
@@intpandemic7779 same. I totally understand why he didn’t at this time. His show must’ve been exhausting. But to come back now with another show, I hope he gets sick of it and runs asap
And there are so many of us who feels the same. We don’t have political aspirations we just want our voices to be heard and thats why Jon was so much liked.
Chris is right. Every time he, Jon, would get on his pollical soapbox and get questions about it he'd jump back into his I'm a comedian suit of amor. kind like the guy who tells his friends to hold him back just before he sucker punches the person he's fighting with and retreats behind his friends by saying I'm a comedian. In this case he hides behind his "I'm a comedian" shield. I'm starting to believe Jon wouldn't know bias if it jumped up and slapped him in the face.
What a fantastic exchange between two very brilliant, in my opinion, observers of politics and current events, at times I laughed so hard it hurt. I respect each of them for their integrity and insight…loved this!
Whenever he's losing, he changes the topic, interrupts Jon or asks, "can I give you an example?" lmao
Fox News playbook.
@Tom Griffiths Nice projection.
@Tom Griffiths you are literally the projection of fascist trump, congrats.
@Tom Griffiths do you have enough emotes? no rebuttal? Think we have our answer, fascist.
@Tom Griffiths sure, you started off the name calling by throwing at liberal but, whatever you know more, huh?
I could watch a whole movie about this insanely passive aggressive encounter.
Or an SNL skit
MercuryNSJ lmao, that would be amazing, it almost seems like one already haha.
♥I love to learn♥
And learn from the best at how to wit and genius charm your way out of a narcissist’s banter buttered with: “I just want to know baby. Who are you inside, really?”
They said the moment Jon Stewart became the "most trusted man in America," was when he first was starting on "The Daily Show," and he went on "CrossFire," and destroyed Tucker Carlson and that other guy. He almost single handley got that show taken off the air. It's great because walking in he knew he was on a real News network thats been around for a long time. And here he comes in, a man who's show is barely new and airs on Comedy Central. He wasn't trying the be the funny man. Tucker Carlson even said "I thought you were gonna be funny?" Jon Stewart just stopped talking, looked at him, and with the straightest face said, "No, no. I'm not your monkey." And the tore them apart.
I bring that up because as great as this interview was. And as much as I have to admit that when it comes to FOX News, Chris Wallace isn't that bad, compared to the rest. But at the 15:05 mark, anyone see a look in Jon Stewart's eyes that really got to you? The way he was telling Chris Wallace how FOX News has the most misinformed viewers and how he repeated "FOX News," I have rarely seen Jon Stewart so intimidating.
I love Jon Stewart just like everyone else. I believe he's very funny and has a cool and different way to look at the news. By no stretch of the imagination should anyone ONLY watch "The Daily Show," and have that be their only source of News. But it is a great alternative when you're tired of watching the same new stories on every other channel. Watch 'The Daily Show," but dont ONLY watch "The Daily Show." You need to hear News from all around from each side and corner.
Gianni Brown Well put.
Well said.
I think Jon would agree on that. We all need to take in at least a few different perspectives, from different parts of the poitical or ideological spectrum, to really get a sense of who is saying what and how different people view the same things, events and people. If nothing else, it teaches us just how much bias there is in various forms of media. Which teaches us to be skeptical in a healthy way.
Comedians have far too much sway in this society. The natural evolution of the liberal comedic point of view is to go on a cocksure jokefest about their candidate and have no clue as to what happened when that candidate lost. Who's seen Hilary since the election? Obama has more influence. Did these comedic Democrats even care if their candidate was seriously fit for the job while they focused on the absurdity of the opponent? They got what they wanted-- a Republican President who writes jokes for them. Jon Stewart routinely called his show "immature". He's saying, "Warning: don't follow me I'm only in it for the joke". Yet people treat these comedians like a fast track to understanding. Yea fast track like fast food-- tastes good at the time but ridiculously unhealthy over the long haul. Also, like fast food establishments, they won't be the ones to tell you when their product is no longer healthy for you to consume. When faulty policies bankrupt everyone else, they'll still be taking money to tell jokes like "Ha ha you just gave me your last dollar to laugh at your poverty". This is not about conservative is the answer, these comedians all happen to be liberals. Ever since the end of the Cold War, America stopped taking the leadership of this country seriously, like hey we can't lose. Anyone else see this as a problem?
drasticwillb I agreed with everything you said up until the last couple of sentences. Every president we elected, before President Trump, had plans for what they wanted to accomplish. Clinton did and Trump did not. Yet the one who was elected did not have a set plan or a vision of what he wanted to accomplish. So this is the first President who was chosen based on your assertion: “hey, we can’t lose”
Interesting that this is 5 years old and still massively relevant today and true as well!
The interview is 11 years old.
I feel honored to have been alive when John Stewart was here for us. He and a few others are what got me interested in politics in my early years.
maybe you should watch a little more Peterson and Sowell and a little less fake news anchor
He’s still here, check out his podcast “The Problem”. It’s fantastic
@@bearkowlbama6352nah
Reality is, people say they aren't political. By the very nature of humanity, we are all political. As Robert Heinlein so eloquently stated, " Politics is only slightly less important than your heartbeat."
Same here.
I dont know what’s so confusing about the “Comedy” in Comedy Central.
If you were a conservative, you would understand. If you have ever seen Good Morning Vietnam, the conservatives are the higher ranking officers. The General is not, he is a classic Republican. He gets the humour.
Jamie Williams elaborate. I’m interested in hearing more
It's political commentary operating under the guise of "Comedy". If it was straight up comedy, you would see a balanced mix of conservatives and liberals on their program. But you don't.
Kidz Bop 38 is Straight FIRE!! No, that’s because conservatives aren’t funny.
@@andrewbrown8965 not as funny as liberals like yourselves, who think there are more than two genders and that fast-food workers deserve $15/hour
Jon had so much dignity, character and intelligence. Humbled we had such a legend in my time
fuckin lol
This is back when people like Jon and others tried to deny the rampant bias that we now know was there all along and is 1000% worse
@@Merknilash nah, the bias is a extremely exaggerated. CNN is pretty center, MSNBC is pretty damn bias today tho and Jon in this clip from what 9 years ago eve mentions that they are taking notes from Fox and it’s seems they did. I’d say they are the counter to Fox. But this idea that everything is completely biased is just a way for you to pretend that news you don’t like to hear is fake.
@@AL3X2011 CNN isn't even remotely center - you're completely nuts and brainwashed if you think that
@@Merknilash you’ve been brainwashed to think the only center news is right wing propaganda. Fox has always been far right and CNN was always center, but look at Trump. He’s never off his phone so of course there was always a story. That clip I just posted is a good example of how this fake news garbage started and how you fell for it. He can say anything is fake and you’ll believe it.
@@AL3X2011 /rolleyes. I used to be a brainwashed, useful idiot like yourself. Then I saw all the rampant bias for myself
CNN is nothing but establishment propaganda now
Fake news garbage started because they literally fucking pump fake news all day long - anonymous source after anonymous source, lie after lie, debunked after debunked - but they shout the lie and whisper the retraction.
This aged well. Wallace reading Stewart's description of FNC as a propaganda delivery is spot on.
After 18 years, even Wallace had enough of Tucker Carlson's lies.
And wouldn't we all be better off with a 2022 sequel of these two rehashing these arguments? (Obviously, said sequel can not occur at Wallace's former employer.)
I love this interview. Stewart is so eloquent, and open-minded, and willing to engage, and making good points, with grace and humor. Wallace himself can't help but chuckle at times. And Stewart disarms Wallace in several instances. He is whip smart.
Jon Stewart made Chris Wallace look like a fool.
Chris can do that by himself
“You’ve gotta feel it in your soul”
Well that explains why Fox Employees have trouble with it.
Republicans only "feel it in their soul" when a threatened with prison...
Everything that Jon said about Fox news is dead on. :)
Never invite Stewart to debate, dude is a genius.
Side note he is a gem of a person
"CONSISTENTLY MISINFORMED" is the big take-away here
www.politifact.com/factchecks/2011/jun/20/jon-stewart/jon-stewart-says-those-who-watch-fox-news-are-most/
@Sylvester Banini The article mentions several studies, and they don't all rank Fox at the bottom, undercutting Stewart's assertion that "every poll" shows Fox viewers are the most misinformed.
If you're going to break it down by show, you can't ignore that viewers of certain Fox shows such as The O'Reilly Factor were judged to be well-informed, sometimes better than Stewart's own show. The article also notes that highly political programming attracts a niche audience, which is already well-informed from other sources.
Bottom line for me is that Stewart accepted Politifact's conclusion, and it was even on his own show. He didn't have to go that far, but he did.
@@takatamiyagawa5688 consistently is different than every poll. Usain Bolt consistenly wins the 100 race but he doesn't always
@@takatamiyagawa5688 If I read it correctly (overflew it), the studies "disproving" Jon had general knowledge questions and are more kind of a "which network viewer is the dumbest" result, not the most misinformed. When they ask about who is prime minister of the UK, that has nothing to do with misinformation. The study which asked whether Obama was born in the USA, if they think the majority was for the Iraq war and so on - well... that study did not speak for Fox viewers. Jon's right.
@Sylvester Banini They are consistently in the lowest group. Are they the bottom of the barrel in its entirety? No. Probably not as low as Info Wars watchers lol
But hey, even if this claim is "False" It's a pretty damning report for Fox News viewers, and I think the sentiment of Jonh's claim is valid.
13:00 to 15:00 Jon makes his strongest point about the failure of all media outlets and Chris Wallace flat out agrees with him. And we should give Wallace credit for letting him talk for 2 minutes straight. I bet his producer was annoyed that he didn't keep interrupting him.
Give him credit? They took Jon's best points of this entire thing and cut it up to just the jokes and such.. watch the edited one it's terrible
I find it funny how every time Jon tries to respond to an example Chris gives, Chris just jumps straight to another one. Good debate though.
Tucker is worse lol
Shows exactly the agenda that Chris was trying to implement.
As usual, Stewart owned the debate.
Because he’s desperate to harangue and overwhelm him; it’s the only advantage he has. It was entertaining, but at times cringeworthy.
@Dorset Deb Wow .... ignorance, conspiracy theory, AND anti-semitism, all wrapped up in barely coherent sentence structure. Now THAT takes talent.
I especially liked the "because that's the soup you swim in"
"They jumped in the Weiner pool with such delight and such relish" might be the grossest sounding sentence I've ever heard
1984rockcity you didn’t listen to the his point. He’s dead one with his point
Hahaha you said Weiner
+P H, I concur. you did say weiner.
Then you have no business in the political debate spectrum. You are too thin skinned.
I really wanted him to say, "hopped on the weiner wagon."
lol I love that Jon interrupts Wallace to say that Matt and Trey are brilliant, with no need and serving no function in the argument, just because he felt it had to be said.
It honestly sucks the episodes Wallace saw were Carl’s moms a slut part one and two, funny episodes but he would have liked a more political episode.
yeah hard to believe somebody as smart as Wallace didn't like SP ... maybe he was just saying it to play to his audience.
Jon Stewart is a genius.
Anthony Campos Chris Wallace absolutely destroyed him here.. I think so anyway but I just slipped off a chair changing a light bulb and banged my head on the sink.
Octavian Caesar Hibernicus lol
NOT!!! higher taxes for you!!!
Jon is a psychic. He said that the conservative movement felt that they are victims of a "witch hunt" at 23:20!
He's intelligent and a smart debater, but genius is a stretch. Any good lawyer can debate like him. They just don't have his snarky sense of humor. Because he leans left, people idolize him. Remember, right-wingers idolize Trump. That don't make him a genius.
The best interviewers ask a good question and listen to the answer. If the question is good one the answer will be long and interesting and won't require interruption.
12:55 John Stewart cuts him off here bc he's getting to the most important point people often forget about, which is that the 24 hour news cycle has lead to misinformation, or the lack thereof, and division.
it's not mentioned enough but the bit that immediately followed about pelosi and weiner and the news networks was left out of the original airing of the interview on Wallace's show.
@@rishabhchandra6526 what happend afterwards? As someone who's isn't from the US I'm not sure what you mean. Care to enlighten me a little please?
I think Chris Wallace today would cringe if he looked back at Chris Wallace in 2011.
no he wouldnt. he is a monster
@@barryreinitz7331 why do you think so? (honestly curious, cause I had the impression he's kinda decent but am open to being proven otherwise)
I agree with you. Fox has been overtaken by opinion goons and Chris Wallace's work isn't really valued there anymore. It's a wonder he hasn't resigned yet.
What a respectful discussion between two intelligent men. If Fox was more like this, I'd watch it.
Fox is never gonna be "more like this", because there's only 1 C. Wallace on Fox and as Stewart said, C. Wallace is there for credibility, "counter weight to S. Hannity
Yes, they both have to be respected, they are doing it because they take pride in their profession and they want to do it as best as possible. The rare, old, dying breed. And unfortunately, this country is not for old men.
@@Kamamura2 no country for old men? Biden became the oldest president in history.
There are not many Chris Wallace’s though. Or Jon Stewart types.
@@IrakliMosulishvili And now Wallace just abruptly quit Fox.
The way they cut off the best part of this right at the end is just the most criminal kid of deliberate obfuscation that I’ve ever seen.
"I've existed in this country forever. It's you guys that have moved closer to me." Man, he hit the nail on the head. And ten years later it's gotten even worse.
Now the liberals do it too.
Did he just stealthily called the entirety of Fox News clowns?
When two intelligent people have a conversation and are able to be assertive without being self-righteous. Respect to Chris Wallace and Jon Stewart.
Yeah whatever
I can listen to Jon Stewart talk for hours on end.
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