If it Works in India, it will probably work everywhere in the world. In India, people don't go offroad, the road becomes offroad and road, on and off, again and again.
As a former owner of a 2020 Himalayan, this is the first bike I've been genuinely excited for, ever. I loved my Himalayan, but it just needed more OOMPH for UK motorways. I just hope they haven't taken away that sense of purpose and steadiness that the original had.
@morri03 for me it largely comes down to that single cylinder, I've missed that soooo much since I sold my 660cc Aprilia. Plus I've also got a CB500X anyway.
@@turningwheels2584 I'm gonna get a himmy 411 soon.. I don't need more grunt for my location 📍..... + I prefer the look of it over the new one. It's so different it's alluring.. Just a beautiful tank/tractor.... *BARRY* 🥳
It is so impressive to watch a company's products getting better-and-better, and speaks so well of company management - especially the CEO, who is an enthusiast, himself.
Wait for sometime Himalayan -650cc,Scrambler-650 bike is in pipeline under development.As of now Himalayan -450 is launched more than 24 different model of Royal Enfield bikes will be launched.
It's a great time to be in the market for a 400-500cc dual-sport/on-off/small adv (which is imo one of the most sensible categories in the market). Apart for the Himalayan, there are also the Chinese; the Kove 450 has some reputation and here in Greece the Voge 300 Rally has been selling well. If I'm not mistaken these days at EICMA Benelli, CFMoto, Zontes, all unveiled some similar bikes. Apart from KTM which has the pricier 390ADV, the other big manufactures are kind of missing out (Kawasaki had that splendid Versys 300, shame they didn't go anywhere with that)
This has got to be the most spectacular bike launch ever, with a bike that is hardly stellar, yet is supremely confident and fit for purpose, perfect for the average rider who just wants to go places, have excitement without fuss, and arrive safely.
I'll stop waiting for a Yamaha T5 and I'll buy this one. Why can only RE develop what most people want ? I know , bigger bikes means bigger profit per unit. The big manufacturers seem to forget that big sales ALSO means big profits.
Thank you for appreciating the location and scenery. I was appalled by most other reviewers who were laser focused on describing only the bike and its specs and completely forgetting one of the key aspects of motorcycling..which is to appreciate and connect with the outdoors.
Great upgrade to the old Himalayan.. Lots of new features and tech coming in. This will be the go to bike for all your rough road adventures at a price which won't pinch your wallet. Just hope RE have maintained good quality control.
I'm keeping my now 'old' Himalayan, I like simple things, that's why I bought it. But with a liquid cooled DOHC engine, ride-by-wire and a handful of ride modes the new Himalayan is no longer simple, it's just like all the rest in this category.
I understand, yet the good news is electronics fail less in general than mechanical items. There's a good reason why bikes (in general) moved away from things like points ignition to CDI. Or mechanical fuel pumps to electric ones.
@@defylifeadventure The new Himalayan is a departure from what has so far been a successful formula for Royal Enfield: simple, do-it-yourself-friendly motorcycles at attractive prices. We will have to see about the price, but with double overhead cams and a lot of electronics in addition to the electronic ignition and fuel injection that all modern bikes have, this one is not do-it-yourself-friendly. It will be interesting to see what the sales figures are going to be, I suspect that RE may find them to be disappointing, but we'll see. The old Himalayan didn't really have any direct competitors, the new one does.
The sales are going to be huge judging by most of the comments under the many videos out there….providing they get the price right. It’s still a pretty simple bike by the standard of the category
@@olethorhermansen5696IT is going to be a hit. Not everyone likes to work on the bike themselves beyond fixing a flat or changing the oil. This is going to be the best overlander with sufficient power and features. It is going to be a guaranteed hit in India and that is going to give RE the buffer to wait an year or do for this to pick up sales RoW. The only other bike that can spoil the party for RE in India is the Hero xpulse 400. You guys do not know the brand, but her builds the cheapest to run motorcycles anywhere. The difference is RE tugs at your heart, Hero at the wallet
I wonder how all the journalists felt about Itchy Boots having the bike out before everyone? I certainly looks a big step up from the old model. Pricing will be everything
The thing with itchy boots is that she is about the land and the people and the bike she is on is a tool as good as a reliable horse. For RE she is the best brand ambassador as the Himalayan is just that - an enjoyable ride for you to go exploring around India or the world. And those who are complaining or worried about the price, I am sure once they ride it they will say - I can pay a few 100 quid more this machine
7000 euros is too expensive for this motorcycle. The new CF Moto 450 MT will be priced around 7200/76000, but it is next level motorcycle, compered to RE. And last, but no least - it's way to heavy for 450 cc engine. It's similar to KTM 790 or T7 or Tuareg 660... @@MauriceTarantulas
It seems like a capable bike but price and reliability are the key points for me. I own a 411 Himalayan and I don't think it's a coincidence you see a lot for sale at about the 5k miles mark. I have had lots of little teething issues with my bike whereby it sort of feels like you have to finish building the bike for Enfield as components come loose or fail over the first few thousand miles. Steering head bearings for example shouldn't be going at 4k miles - they were clearly not greased properly in the factory and then also over-torqued, this is a pretty common issue for the Himalayan, another is the swing arm pivot seizing up but thankfully I nipped that in the bud on my bike.
Sounds like the common Chinese bike issues of poor assembly and lack of proper lubrication. You can buy a Chinese bike cheap and if you like to tinker and do not mind taking much of the bike apart to lube and adjust torque then they are fine. But if you want to buy and ride with a much better chance on having no issues then you need to look elsewhere in most cases.
Even products from the so-called "reliable" brands have had certain parts/components prematurely go bad. There are also a lot of RE Himalayans doing just fine well after 10+k miles. Some KTM models have far more lousy/costly maintenance issues. Even Itchyboots faced more issues with other bikes than the first Himmy she had.
It seems RE has caught the BMW disease of rear lights and indicators combined. I do wish manufacturers would stop this stupid idea. It doesn’t work and it’s borderline dangerous. It’s still a thumper so something of an acquired taste, and not for me. I’m sure it will be popular so long as the price is right.
Battery consumption...😅 Using rear headlight and turn indicator independently will cost battery... When suing such instrument cluster, it's better to use power efficient method such as dual purpose led..
Google maps navigation ONLY works ON-ROAD. In India you have a lot of bad-quality main roads which feels like OFF-ROAD but in EUROP that isn't the case. I would like to see a more open platform where you can choose which app you want to see on the display.
5600 i say, i believe they are in steep water there though and i will not be surprised to see it hit the 5k mark, i say this after listening to a high level exec who gave optimism for a shock price
All depends on price like you say. There's tough competition from CFMoto's 450MT another value 450 adventure bike (that one a twin and with all the bells and whistles). 650MTs are currently discounted to £5k in the UK and no doubt resale values will be rubbish but if you want to buy a bike to use then the new Himalayan may be undercut by over £1k
I assume that, with the new “Sherpa” engine, we no longer have screw-and-locknut valve adjustments. I’m guessing that shims are now required. Can anyone confirm?
The old ones will be flogged off cheaper ,to make room for these new versions . My advice ,is to grab one of the old stock , & give this new 452 engine version a few years to prove itself for reliability ,before laying any bunce out for the new model . I don’t see the point of unnecessary nerdy tech like fly by wire crap on an adventure bike ,that’s going to be ridden ,miles from civilisation . The less tech the less to go wrong & cause potential issues ,in the arse - end of nowhere & leave the rider stranded ,or waiting ages for parts to be sent to nearest civilisation . All that was needed was a few more ccs & hp for , the odd section of motorway riding at 70 odd mph if required .
I love how you kept referring to Land Rover, Both RE & LR are iconic British brands, now owned by Indian corporations Both are coming up with new age, modern products, designed with UK India collaborations, Both brands are great testimonies of India UK relations.
Would have been nice to have some info on the engine character, power delivery, smoothness etc.. is it still pretty torquey or much more of a rev box? It certainly sounds like it was lugging a few times but of course high up isn’t a fair test
The place where it was ridden was 12000-14000 ft altitude on average...pretty much at the same league as the highest mountain peak of Europe.. Anything above 11000 ft, and it becomes exponentially difficult breathing for both man and Internal combustion engine. Many Non FI engines completely stop working even.
@@Amuzic_Earth I know I’ve been skiing at Breckenridge which is 13,000feet. Although performance is reduced the relative character of the engine will be unchanged.
@@PhilipBallGarry yep it is below that where it’s important. Reports are it’s pretty soft below 3. Figures you don’t get so much more top end without compromise.
Watched other reviews on this bike and a lot of it is the same standard factory ? footage. But this review is better as it includes more on bike and scenery footage and it’s the only one which mentions the levers. Cheers.
Thanks, yes it's standard procedure for manufacturers to provide stock footage that will have been shot using a test rider ahead of the media arriving, then footage of each journalist from the same spots, it's then up to the individual or their outlet to edit it in their house style. Hope that helps but let us know if there's any more questions.
@@jimmartin8586 yea that's the deal, I think they have released the prices, and there is waiting in India too fr now. Although, the adv market here isnt that big. That is why we are expecting a 450 scrambler early next year with same config. Which will be more of a road bike which could do a bit of off road. I think RE is testing the waters with the pricing. They will certainly sell if they have upgraded the riding experience.
If that was Japanese it would be a big hit,but it's a RE & I think RE's biggest obstacle will be proving the reliability of the bike.There's a lot of tech on there that's new to RE & I'd be wary of it until it's been out for a while.
Worth watching presentations by the teams behind the engine and general design philosophy. I think RE is trying to bump up their entire brand with this bike. They have put a lot of work in to this one
@@bencluroe4183 RE does not gets its major chunk of sales from outside. They produce the most at home, and I think its going to do well here, as the ownership reviews have been great so far with no major issues, the complaints have been about the height and weight on the front end, side stand being not as straight etc but these are mostly rider specific.
Seeing how they want to make spin-offs from this engine, I'll wait for one that has an analogue dash and ditch the riding modes/navigation. They look cool to have but no one was asking for them with the Himalayan 411.
Triumph Scrambler £5600, Himalayan 450 £6000? ... tough one on pricing... I think you get more bike with the himalayan, but triumph generally has a higher quality finish. Will be interesting to see what the CF MOTO 450 twin comes in at too... apparently lighter but has more stuff as standard... to 400-500 adventure bike segment is proving to be an interesting one!
Where I live they say it will be out in a year which is ridiculous. I’ll have to go for something else. That new Triumph 400 scrambler might be it but I’d prefer the RE. They need to get it out quicker. Also, if they remove the 411 version ( which they will, apparently) then the new one will replace it ( obviously) and I think this will affect people’s perception of the value represented in the new price. It can’t be hugely more.
Well I ride RE because of the simplicity and ease of maintenance and parts accessibility .I have been waiting and am now disappointed . I refuse to accept that a 40 h.p. bike needs rider modes.And ride by wire is so far removed from ADV requirements to be reliable that I will not even try the bike out.Instead I will put a carb and the 462 overbore kit on my 2019 thank you.I will be at 35 h.p. at a lower rpm and have more torque. 6 gears would be nice I admit but if 1st is not lower and 6th higher it is not a huge gain.I have the Hitchcocks cam freeflow air filter and exhaust that put's me at 30 h.p. and right at 30 ft.lbs. Switching to the carb now would only get me better simplicity control of tune and yes reliability.I already have EFI fueling issues which i would not have with a carb. But add the Overbore kit and then I can really tune to make use of the displacement. I have six bikes .The Yamaha with a carb comes in second with fuel delivery reliability .First goes to my 1995 Enfield Bullet 500 with a simple round slide mikcarb.And points ignition.It starts by kickstart in the snow and freezing cold .When the EFI bikes will not and I have to wear out the starter on the Yamaha.
Great news for all those who've been holding-out for the new 'upgrade' - but I'll be keeping my old bike. This new model has none of the rugged simplicity, character and charm of the original Himalayan.
I wonder what the scope is for weight reduction. Doe it come with a a LiFePO4 battery? if not there's a 2.5kg weight saving. Removal of of the crash bars, which is weight hight up, would likely be another 2-3kg saved. Centre stand (some people prefer just a trail stand), would save another 2kg, though that is weight download so not as noticeable difference.
I'm sure the new Himalayan is much better, but the previous one was such a beautiful looking bike with this classic tank and unique design. Unfortunately, the new one is an eyesore! The tank is awful. Just wondering if you can fit the old tank in the new bike, it would help little bit.
@@splodge5714uhm, that's what you do on a Scrambler... I have one and it's way too good looking to go off road and get all dirty and way to uncomfortable to go far... so onto the next cafe it is!
What i hate about this bike, and other inexpensive bikes. It's not specifically this bike and it's nothing royal enfield or other brands can fix. Is buying second hand ones. I see 2022 Himalayans with 20k miles selling for £500 less than a brand new bike. This is the biker "mines is more special" mentality which ruins the used market. It's the same with the cb500x. 2 year old bikes with 20k miles selling for £500 to £1000 less than a brand new bike. This is a good thing because, the bikes hold their value. I'm torn between buying a second hand cb500x or a brand new himalayan. Because the prices are so close to a brand new bike, I don't really know what to do... £500 is a lot of money when you are spending £5k.
"Blasphemy" 😂😂😂 It's a UK review and the vast majority of us here couldn't give a flying fck about your ridiculous God. "Foul language" You obviously don't understand how irrelevant and irrational that concept is. Words can't be bad on their own - you need context.
I haven’t watched it all yet, did he say c*nt or f*ck. I’ll stop watching now and wait for you to let me know what he said because I don’t want to listen to anyone say c^nt or f#ck or motherfuck3r or any of those things😊
Still no price - I think Royal Enfield as Nathan the Postie has reported have shot themselves totally in the foot. Itchy Boots, Press launch , EIMCA and they still have not decided how much. I guess unless you are a RE fan then by the time they have decided how much and if its taken this long to decide a price god knows how long it will take to deliver it, people will have laready bought and done the running on on the tidal wave of Chinese options the cosumer will get this year.
They have known for a while they're just being strategic with marketing. It will be announced at the Goa event RE have later this month, they're deliberately getting people to keep paying attention to the next event to sew their enticement into sales. Given the riding features and dash, I'm anxious it will be around the Interceptor price mark.
@@RS23545 Rieju is Spanish. (Well think has Chinese parts). Am not bothered by any political choices. I want the better bike. Hey dont get me wrong jury still out. And I own a Himmy want another R Enf.
@@MauriceTarantulas Maybe talking about Chinese motorcycles and their reputation? Rieju is Spanish, may be he assumed it to be Chinese. PS : CFMoto seems to be the only exception as a good brand among Chinese motorcycle brands.
I have a 2021 Himalayan. Total junk. Battery can't hold a charge (phantom draw)...bad electrical problem no one can solve. Horrible fit and finish. Dealership had it for months. It's been so disappointing that I'm selling it with only 700-miles on it. Don't fool yourself into believing you can get a quality ride for one third what all other equivalent bikes cost.
Excellent review.. But I have a question for you. Nobody in reviews mentioned the engine's behavior below 3000rpm. Bikes which are made for off road should have the capability to ride in 3rd gear at 3000rpm. I see most of them in second gear even at 30kmph. Near to 20kmph always on first gear. I feel it's bothersome to ride with such a gear ratio especially in such difficult road conditions. This is my point of view. Correct me if I am wrong.
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“Tarmac, to potholes, to gravel” will be good on uk roads then. 😂
Looks like India got a lot more from the UK than we bargained for... 😂
Here in Bengaluru it's Potholes to gravel and if lucky you get good tarmac.
If it Works in India, it will probably work everywhere in the world. In India, people don't go offroad, the road becomes offroad and road, on and off, again and again.
@Drxyz-tk6le😂 doesn't matter how modern the country goes, we will still shit on our respective road conditions😂
As a former owner of a 2020 Himalayan, this is the first bike I've been genuinely excited for, ever. I loved my Himalayan, but it just needed more OOMPH for UK motorways. I just hope they haven't taken away that sense of purpose and steadiness that the original had.
Look at highway ride reviews from Indian reviewers. You will get an initial sense of how well this fares.
Yes same here, I'm so excited about this! I have the 2018 bs4 still to this day and i love it, this himy is everything the 411 isn't.
I am interested too although the CFMoto 450MT looks like an even better option too
@morri03 for me it largely comes down to that single cylinder, I've missed that soooo much since I sold my 660cc Aprilia. Plus I've also got a CB500X anyway.
@@turningwheels2584 I'm gonna get a himmy 411 soon.. I don't need more grunt for my location 📍..... + I prefer the look of it over the new one. It's so different it's alluring.. Just a beautiful tank/tractor....
*BARRY* 🥳
It is so impressive to watch a company's products getting better-and-better, and speaks so well of company management - especially the CEO, who is an enthusiast, himself.
I spent two weeks in the Himalayas this year. Best riding experience ever. Challenging and exhilarating!
Did you go guided ?
@@brikfiend yes. Group of 14 inc guide and sweeper.
What were you riding...?
*BARRY* 🥳
@@barry5580 some 2022 himalayans. They were excellent. Mine had about 1100kms on the clock, so very new Took every terrain we could throw at it.
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A spectacular setting for the launch! Looks like a pretty competent bike, what more could you want?
T1ts out and a hand shandy.
You can change the modes on fly. Just close the throttle, pull the clutch lever and press the mode button : )
Do you can turn rear ABS off under fly ?
@@crazyosvano I guess. You need to come to a standstill for that
@@crazyosvayes you can
@@SachinSingh-mf5euno you can check Abhinav Bhatt's City ride review.
I love my Inty 650 and I always said that if they made a Himalayan with the 650 engine, I’d get one. This now has similar power. I’m very tempted…
Ride by wire.That is not good for ADV
Wait for sometime Himalayan -650cc,Scrambler-650 bike is in pipeline under development.As of now Himalayan -450 is launched more than 24 different model of Royal Enfield bikes will be launched.
It's a great time to be in the market for a 400-500cc dual-sport/on-off/small adv (which is imo one of the most sensible categories in the market). Apart for the Himalayan, there are also the Chinese; the Kove 450 has some reputation and here in Greece the Voge 300 Rally has been selling well. If I'm not mistaken these days at EICMA Benelli, CFMoto, Zontes, all unveiled some similar bikes. Apart from KTM which has the pricier 390ADV, the other big manufactures are kind of missing out (Kawasaki had that splendid Versys 300, shame they didn't go anywhere with that)
This has got to be the most spectacular bike launch ever, with a bike that is hardly stellar, yet is supremely confident and fit for purpose, perfect for the average rider who just wants to go places, have excitement without fuss, and arrive safely.
Reminds me of an xt500 for dome reason.
And that is a good thing.
Hope it does really well.
Ride safe and happy travels 👍
I'll stop waiting for a Yamaha T5 and I'll buy this one.
Why can only RE develop what most people want ?
I know , bigger bikes means bigger profit per unit.
The big manufacturers seem to forget that big sales ALSO means big profits.
CF Moto 450 MT is the new T5
Thank you for appreciating the location and scenery. I was appalled by most other reviewers who were laser focused on describing only the bike and its specs and completely forgetting one of the key aspects of motorcycling..which is to appreciate and connect with the outdoors.
Great upgrade to the old Himalayan..
Lots of new features and tech coming in.
This will be the go to bike for all your rough road adventures at a price which won't pinch your wallet.
Just hope RE have maintained good quality control.
Thanks for the British perspective. I'm in India, from US. Good to get global thoughts on the bike.
I'm keeping my now 'old' Himalayan, I like simple things, that's why I bought it. But with a liquid cooled DOHC engine, ride-by-wire and a handful of ride modes the new Himalayan is no longer simple, it's just like all the rest in this category.
I understand, yet the good news is electronics fail less in general than mechanical items. There's a good reason why bikes (in general) moved away from things like points ignition to CDI. Or mechanical fuel pumps to electric ones.
@@defylifeadventure The new Himalayan is a departure from what has so far been a successful formula for Royal Enfield: simple, do-it-yourself-friendly motorcycles at attractive prices. We will have to see about the price, but with double overhead cams and a lot of electronics in addition to the electronic ignition and fuel injection that all modern bikes have, this one is not do-it-yourself-friendly. It will be interesting to see what the sales figures are going to be, I suspect that RE may find them to be disappointing, but we'll see. The old Himalayan didn't really have any direct competitors, the new one does.
The sales are going to be huge judging by most of the comments under the many videos out there….providing they get the price right. It’s still a pretty simple bike by the standard of the category
@@olethorhermansen5696IT is going to be a hit. Not everyone likes to work on the bike themselves beyond fixing a flat or changing the oil. This is going to be the best overlander with sufficient power and features. It is going to be a guaranteed hit in India and that is going to give RE the buffer to wait an year or do for this to pick up sales RoW. The only other bike that can spoil the party for RE in India is the Hero xpulse 400. You guys do not know the brand, but her builds the cheapest to run motorcycles anywhere. The difference is RE tugs at your heart, Hero at the wallet
Agree!
I wonder how all the journalists felt about Itchy Boots having the bike out before everyone?
I certainly looks a big step up from the old model.
Pricing will be everything
I agree it’s all on the price. Gotta be closer to 5k for me. 6k plus opens up a lot of options
They can't really complain, she's done more for that brand than any moto magazine
She completely deserves it. Even Indian journalists can't complain about it, she completely 'gets' India and the bike.
@Amuzic_Earth Correct 👍👍 she's a great ambassador for the brand, a great rider and yes she loves riding in India
The thing with itchy boots is that she is about the land and the people and the bike she is on is a tool as good as a reliable horse. For RE she is the best brand ambassador as the Himalayan is just that - an enjoyable ride for you to go exploring around India or the world. And those who are complaining or worried about the price, I am sure once they ride it they will say - I can pay a few 100 quid more this machine
Great video and the perfect place to review this bike, well done you all team Bennetts! 👍👍
No doubt the bike is going to be very capable but as you said it’s all about the price !
6k have heard. 7100 euros.
To expensive to me in the uk, 6k opens up a lot of bikes. Gotta be closer to 5k for me to get one
@@bencluroe4183 The prev gen Himmy was 5k so the chances of it being 5500 I'd say are very slim. My exact guess would be £6299.
7000 euros is too expensive for this motorcycle. The new CF Moto 450 MT will be priced around 7200/76000, but it is next level motorcycle, compered to RE. And last, but no least - it's way to heavy for 450 cc engine. It's similar to KTM 790 or T7 or Tuareg 660... @@MauriceTarantulas
@@crazyosva Guess we'll see re pricing. And power to weight ratio you might be right..time will tell.
It seems like a capable bike but price and reliability are the key points for me. I own a 411 Himalayan and I don't think it's a coincidence you see a lot for sale at about the 5k miles mark. I have had lots of little teething issues with my bike whereby it sort of feels like you have to finish building the bike for Enfield as components come loose or fail over the first few thousand miles. Steering head bearings for example shouldn't be going at 4k miles - they were clearly not greased properly in the factory and then also over-torqued, this is a pretty common issue for the Himalayan, another is the swing arm pivot seizing up but thankfully I nipped that in the bud on my bike.
Sounds like the common Chinese bike issues of poor assembly and lack of proper lubrication.
You can buy a Chinese bike cheap and if you like to tinker and do not mind taking much of the bike apart to lube and adjust torque then they are fine.
But if you want to buy and ride with a much better chance on having no issues then you need to look elsewhere in most cases.
Even products from the so-called "reliable" brands have had certain parts/components prematurely go bad. There are also a lot of RE Himalayans doing just fine well after 10+k miles. Some KTM models have far more lousy/costly maintenance issues. Even Itchyboots faced more issues with other bikes than the first Himmy she had.
You can change the modes on fly. Just close throttle pull in the clutch then it will let you change as you free glide.
It seems RE has caught the BMW disease of rear lights and indicators combined. I do wish manufacturers would stop this stupid idea. It doesn’t work and it’s borderline dangerous. It’s still a thumper so something of an acquired taste, and not for me. I’m sure it will be popular so long as the price is right.
Battery consumption...😅 Using rear headlight and turn indicator independently will cost battery... When suing such instrument cluster, it's better to use power efficient method such as dual purpose led..
I would really like to see R.E. drop their new 650 into the Himalayan. Think would be a great ADV/tourer possibly dethrone the KLR.
Then you’d have a really heavy bike.
Google maps navigation ONLY works ON-ROAD.
In India you have a lot of bad-quality main roads which feels like OFF-ROAD but in EUROP that isn't the case.
I would like to see a more open platform where you can choose which app you want to see on the display.
I saw a review that mentioned upcoming compatibility with things like TET-maps are in progress, hopefully it's true..👍
5600 i say, i believe they are in steep water there though and i will not be surprised to see it hit the 5k mark, i say this after listening to a high level exec who gave optimism for a shock price
Amazing bike and amazing place 😮
Stunning scenery 😊,,what a beautiful place,
Bike isn't to shabby either,
Great video. How do I get discount in Halfords
All depends on price like you say. There's tough competition from CFMoto's 450MT another value 450 adventure bike (that one a twin and with all the bells and whistles). 650MTs are currently discounted to £5k in the UK and no doubt resale values will be rubbish but if you want to buy a bike to use then the new Himalayan may be undercut by over £1k
I agree with this mate, people saying 6k is a bargain I don’t think so. I think it’s gotta be closer to 5k for me to look at it
It'll be a shame if they can't keep it below 2.9k GBP here in India! 😅
Is cf moto rugged enough
OK if you want to ride Chinese shite get a CFM
I saw this bike today in the Stockholm motorcycle fair. I fell in love with it immediately 🥰 And the the interest is huge here 😊👍
what's you feeling when it compares with the ktm adv 390?
I assume that, with the new “Sherpa” engine, we no longer have screw-and-locknut valve adjustments. I’m guessing that shims are now required. Can anyone confirm?
The old ones will be flogged off cheaper ,to make room for these new versions . My advice ,is to grab one of the old stock , & give this new 452 engine version a few years to prove itself for reliability ,before laying any bunce out for the new model . I don’t see the point of unnecessary nerdy tech like fly by wire crap on an adventure bike ,that’s going to be ridden ,miles from civilisation . The less tech the less to go wrong & cause potential issues ,in the arse - end of nowhere & leave the rider stranded ,or waiting ages for parts to be sent to nearest civilisation . All that was needed was a few more ccs & hp for , the odd section of motorway riding at 70 odd mph if required .
I love how you kept referring to Land Rover,
Both RE & LR are iconic British brands, now owned by Indian corporations
Both are coming up with new age, modern products, designed with UK India collaborations,
Both brands are great testimonies of India UK relations.
I think now they should consider a liquid cooled 650 engine next 😅 a guy can wish.
looks like a Norden on a budget and for the world traveler. excellent.
Would have been nice to have some info on the engine character, power delivery, smoothness etc.. is it still pretty torquey or much more of a rev box? It certainly sounds like it was lugging a few times but of course high up isn’t a fair test
The place where it was ridden was 12000-14000 ft altitude on average...pretty much at the same league as the highest mountain peak of Europe.. Anything above 11000 ft, and it becomes exponentially difficult breathing for both man and Internal combustion engine. Many Non FI engines completely stop working even.
@@Amuzic_Earth I know I’ve been skiing at Breckenridge which is 13,000feet. Although performance is reduced the relative character of the engine will be unchanged.
Apparently, 95% of the torque is available from just over 3000rpm 👍
@@PhilipBallGarry yep it is below that where it’s important. Reports are it’s pretty soft below 3. Figures you don’t get so much more top end without compromise.
Watched other reviews on this bike and a lot of it is the same standard factory ? footage. But this review is better as it includes more on bike and scenery footage and it’s the only one which mentions the levers. Cheers.
Thanks, yes it's standard procedure for manufacturers to provide stock footage that will have been shot using a test rider ahead of the media arriving, then footage of each journalist from the same spots, it's then up to the individual or their outlet to edit it in their house style.
Hope that helps but let us know if there's any more questions.
It would look cool with dual front discs.
I've tried to find a price and the only one I can find is an estimated £7100! Over 7k for this? If it is, I doubt I'll see many!
agree - at this price you can find a used KTM 790 Adventure R or Tenere 700 with few K km.
@@jimmartin8586 yea that's the deal, I think they have released the prices, and there is waiting in India too fr now. Although, the adv market here isnt that big. That is why we are expecting a 450 scrambler early next year with same config. Which will be more of a road bike which could do a bit of off road.
I think RE is testing the waters with the pricing. They will certainly sell if they have upgraded the riding experience.
If that was Japanese it would be a big hit,but it's a RE & I think RE's biggest obstacle will be proving the reliability of the bike.There's a lot of tech on there that's new to RE & I'd be wary of it until it's been out for a while.
Exactly what I was thinking mate. Only way it’ll do well is if the price is closer to 5k. 6k plus is a big ask in my eyes
Worth watching presentations by the teams behind the engine and general design philosophy. I think RE is trying to bump up their entire brand with this bike. They have put a lot of work in to this one
@@slakk5093 I agree but if no one buys it because it’s too expensive??
Royal Enfield's R&D center is in the UK. Definitely agree. Japanese bikes usually don't have insane power figures but by god they will run forever.
@@bencluroe4183 RE does not gets its major chunk of sales from outside. They produce the most at home, and I think its going to do well here, as the ownership reviews have been great so far with no major issues, the complaints have been about the height and weight on the front end, side stand being not as straight etc but these are mostly rider specific.
Just watch Itchy Boots on her latest Indian adventure, tells you all you need to know.
I'm loving the look of this bike, making my juices flow
£5,750 OTR (Kaza Brown) price in UK seems competitive and reasonable .
11:00 you do can change the mode on the go, you just didnt do it with the clutch pulled in. thats why it shows DENIED when you tried to change
Seeing how they want to make spin-offs from this engine, I'll wait for one that has an analogue dash and ditch the riding modes/navigation. They look cool to have but no one was asking for them with the Himalayan 411.
So £6,495 then? Is so it makes the Triumph 400 look a positive bargain!
Why does every tester have to say intuitive like it makes them special
Triumph Scrambler £5600, Himalayan 450 £6000? ... tough one on pricing... I think you get more bike with the himalayan, but triumph generally has a higher quality finish. Will be interesting to see what the CF MOTO 450 twin comes in at too... apparently lighter but has more stuff as standard... to 400-500 adventure bike segment is proving to be an interesting one!
I’m in Spain and just before covid I was considering a Himalayan . They were new for €4300 on the road!
CF Moto 450 MT 7600 eur in France
Where I live they say it will be out in a year which is ridiculous. I’ll have to go for something else. That new Triumph 400 scrambler might be it but I’d prefer the RE. They need to get it out quicker. Also, if they remove the 411 version ( which they will, apparently) then the new one will replace it ( obviously) and I think this will affect people’s perception of the value represented in the new price. It can’t be hugely more.
@@crazyosva good to know... Probably £7k then.. tempting offering but fully spec-ed out
Did you say the price is in the description?
Costs nothing then!
Wish they'd give out prices on launch day - not exactly rocket science to do.............
Soooo beautiful bike!!!! Do you think it is beginner friendly? Any bad vibrations or heat from the engine? Thanx
No vibration test ride done, no heating, best bike in the market for the next 3 years for sure, I pre booked mine.
Well I ride RE because of the simplicity and ease of maintenance and parts accessibility .I have been waiting and am now disappointed . I refuse to accept that a 40 h.p. bike needs rider modes.And ride by wire is so far removed from ADV requirements to be reliable that I will not even try the bike out.Instead I will put a carb and the 462 overbore kit on my 2019 thank you.I will be at 35 h.p. at a lower rpm and have more torque. 6 gears would be nice I admit but if 1st is not lower and 6th higher it is not a huge gain.I have the Hitchcocks cam freeflow air filter and exhaust that put's me at 30 h.p. and right at 30 ft.lbs. Switching to the carb now would only get me better simplicity control of tune and yes reliability.I already have EFI fueling issues which i would not have with a carb. But add the Overbore kit and then I can really tune to make use of the displacement. I have six bikes .The Yamaha with a carb comes in second with fuel delivery reliability .First goes to my 1995 Enfield Bullet 500 with a simple round slide mikcarb.And points ignition.It starts by kickstart in the snow and freezing cold .When the EFI bikes will not and I have to wear out the starter on the Yamaha.
Not a fan of the color but love the bike….can always vinyl wrap it
The biggest factor with this bike is price. It will make it or break it...
Great news for all those who've been holding-out for the new 'upgrade' - but I'll be keeping my old bike. This new model has none of the rugged simplicity, character and charm of the original Himalayan.
I wonder what the scope is for weight reduction. Doe it come with a a LiFePO4 battery? if not there's a 2.5kg weight saving. Removal of of the crash bars, which is weight hight up, would likely be another 2-3kg saved. Centre stand (some people prefer just a trail stand), would save another 2kg, though that is weight download so not as noticeable difference.
Have you got a price yet 🤔 please
Not yet, we’ll let you know as soon as it’s announced.
@@bennettsbikesocialI saw 7100 Euros on one site. 6k was my guess £.
@@MauriceTarantulasi thnk it ll be placed below 650 interceptor
@@pranavvalvaikar2170 Bit less but similar...
@@MauriceTarantulas Indian Autoexperts are claiming the difference between entry level interceptor and New Himalayan will be close to 500-600 dollars.
Any body heard of delivery to uk being delayed due to the problems in shipping through suez
Wow, wake up to a gentle bike review, your joking! those roads, drops, views etc, a very bad dream!
😂
Do you know the Kawasaki klr650?
Which is better? I can get a 2023 new klr for $5000 + tax. Lic.
Or wait for The 452.
looks like an instant hit
Personally I dont like ADV bikes as they are compromise machines.
But I still think these value for money bikes will sell like hot cakes .
I was scared just watching ( vertigo ) Bike looks very good .
price???
I'm sure the new Himalayan is much better, but the previous one was such a beautiful looking bike with this classic tank and unique design. Unfortunately, the new one is an eyesore! The tank is awful. Just wondering if you can fit the old tank in the new bike, it would help little bit.
Bennets follows in Itchy Boots footsteps 🤣😂 does seem liek a good bike and a good upgrade.
Bro can you comfortably flat foot your legs while riding this bike (I'm about the same height)
“HOLY SH*TE”…….😂😂 Nearly choked on my tea !!
Mr childs youjamstranglingluckybarsteward ....😂 what a trip....ohhhh bike looks good too....👍👍👍👍
Those roads look better than the potholed UK roads. £6000 makes it more expensive than the Triumph Scrambler 400!😂
Scambler vs adventurer. .duh ! Obviously going to be more expensive
So it's now obvious that an RE is more expensive than a Triumph🤣 And the biggest adventure most have on the Himalayan is getting to the cafe.
@@splodge5714uhm, that's what you do on a Scrambler... I have one and it's way too good looking to go off road and get all dirty and way to uncomfortable to go far... so onto the next cafe it is!
What i hate about this bike, and other inexpensive bikes. It's not specifically this bike and it's nothing royal enfield or other brands can fix. Is buying second hand ones. I see 2022 Himalayans with 20k miles selling for £500 less than a brand new bike. This is the biker "mines is more special" mentality which ruins the used market. It's the same with the cb500x. 2 year old bikes with 20k miles selling for £500 to £1000 less than a brand new bike. This is a good thing because, the bikes hold their value. I'm torn between buying a second hand cb500x or a brand new himalayan. Because the prices are so close to a brand new bike, I don't really know what to do... £500 is a lot of money when you are spending £5k.
Well this is a complete rewrite then…not a bad thing, but no relation
Major issues with Power drop off over 3000 RPM in second gear just dies .......
Why do you need to make people cringe with your blasphemy and unnecessary foul language? It spoils an otherwise good video.
Do yourself a big favor
Don’t watch…. Don’t be miserable
Make sense???!
"Blasphemy" 😂😂😂 It's a UK review and the vast majority of us here couldn't give a flying fck about your ridiculous God.
"Foul language" You obviously don't understand how irrelevant and irrational that concept is. Words can't be bad on their own - you need context.
Oh for gods sake; jeez!
Bet you’re fun at parties
I haven’t watched it all yet, did he say c*nt or f*ck. I’ll stop watching now and wait for you to let me know what he said because I don’t want to listen to anyone say c^nt or f#ck or motherfuck3r or any of those things😊
How many times did he say Himalayan’s :)
and no single time about the motorcycle ergonomics...
Still no price - I think Royal Enfield as Nathan the Postie has reported have shot themselves totally in the foot. Itchy Boots, Press launch , EIMCA and they still have not decided how much. I guess unless you are a RE fan then by the time they have decided how much and if its taken this long to decide a price god knows how long it will take to deliver it, people will have laready bought and done the running on on the tidal wave of Chinese options the cosumer will get this year.
They have known for a while they're just being strategic with marketing. It will be announced at the Goa event RE have later this month, they're deliberately getting people to keep paying attention to the next event to sew their enticement into sales.
Given the riding features and dash, I'm anxious it will be around the Interceptor price mark.
@@richardw1043 I intend to buy something else, keep life simple.
Every bike review should start by talking about ergonomics, not that kind of bullshit "...it's build for Himalayas, bla bla bla". Are you serious?
It is definitely be under £6k
Bikes are designed to test leh Ladakh roads and weather conditions
Deep wawaa😇
Has anyone done a count on Chad’s “Himalayan” and made a rap song. Do it !
Bro why you can't pronounce water ,not wotah
What is wart er cooled ? 😂
Suspension by "shower"? 🤔😆
We don't hear 'Itchy Boots' squealing like a girl when riding round the sheer drops😂😂🤣🤣
Come on guys Ichy Boots rode much more dangerous roads with much better filming.
😻
I prefer the CF moto and the Rieju as it stands.
yes you go for chinese bike if that is your choice
@@RS23545 Rieju is Spanish. (Well think has Chinese parts).
Am not bothered by any political choices. I want the better bike.
Hey dont get me wrong jury still out. And I own a Himmy want another R Enf.
@@MauriceTarantulasI don't think he meant it in a political tone.
@@varun2250 then why mention China at all!?!🥱
@@MauriceTarantulas Maybe talking about Chinese motorcycles and their reputation? Rieju is Spanish, may be he assumed it to be Chinese.
PS : CFMoto seems to be the only exception as a good brand among Chinese motorcycle brands.
Any old honda xl 250 is better than that . !!! Save your cash . !
We got Sherlock here, handing out reviews before trying the bike out.
Junk with cheap street tires !!!😢
Learn how to pronounce "Himalayan"
I have a 2021 Himalayan. Total junk. Battery can't hold a charge (phantom draw)...bad electrical problem no one can solve. Horrible fit and finish. Dealership had it for months. It's been so disappointing that I'm selling it with only 700-miles on it. Don't fool yourself into believing you can get a quality ride for one third what all other equivalent bikes cost.
Completely new engine completely new frame and still looks ugly
It's a new, small, Indian motorcycle, not the second coming of Christ.
Yes cow is sacred. But truth is we love beef 🐄
Excellent review.. But I have a question for you. Nobody in reviews mentioned the engine's behavior below 3000rpm. Bikes which are made for off road should have the capability to ride in 3rd gear at 3000rpm. I see most of them in second gear even at 30kmph. Near to 20kmph always on first gear. I feel it's bothersome to ride with such a gear ratio especially in such difficult road conditions. This is my point of view. Correct me if I am wrong.
Watch Itchy Boots (Noraly) plod around India. She hasn't experienced any issues at low speed on and off road
Definitely not lighter pleez