New & weird bikes & gear at the Taipei Show
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- Опубликовано: 7 мар 2024
- Taiwan is the heart of the bike industry, and the annual Taipei Show showcases how bikes and gear come together, as both consumer brands and the companies that service them set up shop in a sprawling convention center.
I walked the halls to see what was new, weird, and wild, and to chat with folks from around the world.
It was my second time at the show, but my first visit was 25 years ago (!) so things have changed.
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Gary F'ing FISHER!!!! yessssssss.
I still have my 1998 Gary Fisher Big Sur...Get all kinds of thumbs-up when I ride it. 🙂 He's legend
@@theonlyDougBlack My first MTB was a 1997 Big Sur! Legendary Gary Fisher...
I would not have recognised him. I also really wanted to straighten his smig.
@@theonlyDougBlacksomeone stole mine😢
"very fast, but also very dangerous" 😂
lol
rim brakes, for when stopping is not the objective!
Screw Derailleur:
Thanks Ben for the interview. It was very nice to meet you.
I forgot to mention that besides weight, complexity was the main reason for creating the screw derailleur. Since the show I have
(1) replaced stainless steel clevis tension rod with aluminum rod,
(2) created a 3D CAD for the lead screw so I can make a 6061 or 7075 aluminum one, and
(3) designed a 3D printed shifter ratio converter so it can work with most index shifters (for now, It can work with friction shifters).
Now they weight about 10gram less. I am also changing the filament to ASA-CF for better appearance and outdoor use.
I am thinking of shelfing the design since I do not know if there is a market for it since the market is dominated by the big 3 players who sells the derailleur as part of a group set. Yes, I did talk to several vendors at the show. They all find it to be very interesting but none show interest to support it. I think the best marketing possibility is to sell the non-3D printable parts as a package and allow the purchasers to print the 3D printable parts.
So now I am going to do some testing and fine turning then start working on my next bike project. Cheers!😊
The "ribbed for pleasure" wheels cracked me up. No comment necessary
time stamp?
but your comment is a comment ?!
In 1983 I rode a full Campy Guerciotti to a Silver Medal in the Montana State Championship Time Trial and a bronze in the 100mile+ road race the next day. I love old Italian bikes!
Interview with retired engineer at 13:09 the 'screw derailleur' is the most enigmatic, deftly--search-dodging, mystery design out there. Where does one find more info, 3d printed copies or ride reports on this derailleur...if the infinite tension principle works, it needs to be saved from the museum of suppressed inventions.
So much lunacy on display. I love it. "if you want climb mountain, you must have truss structure!" lolol
I haven't been there for 30 years, hasn't changed much, plenty of funky stuff, ha!
15:52 lmfao that reaction 😂
“Murica, is that you ?”
Excellent. Thankyou
Thanks, Ben, these trade-show walk-arounds are like '80s MTV videos to me, and thanks for giving Gary a moment at the mike. And those turtles started off shaky with their product presentation but that last turtle came on strong and told us the story. And more of these, please, if you have more footage in your bag, so we can get down at the funky bike town. 😀
you're a funny guy
@@mrvlogger7-24 Ben started it, singing Funkytown on camera. 😀
Great video, I had the feeling I was walking with you there.
Thanks. I got a new little camera that works well for this format. Will do it again at Sea Otter for a few videos.
Thanks for that Ben, very interesting stuff and News………
Thanks for giving us a tour of the Taipei show. Any wheels, tires, bikes, that you’re taking home to review?
My pleasure. No, it bringing anything home. But I have way too many bikes already in the line so I’m good.
That pinion gear bike looked intriguing. It has dreaming up a fresh build!
I kind of want one of those toddler windshields for my aero bike. 🤔
Colnago is stunning, as usual, BUT, and a big BUT, Exit Campagnolo
Thanks Ben. Love for you to do a long form interview with Gary Fisher- I bet he'd have some great insights into the industry and he's also a real character.
Ok that was fun, thanks. Bonus Gary Fisher cameo too!
Great job, Ben! 👍🏻 I’m glad that you made the trips all the way to Taiwan 🇹🇼!
Tell Gary Fisher I still ride my Sugar 1 XC bike!
Me too. It's a great bike.
Great video. Awesome info. Please keep it up.
Great overview. Well done
Great video, thank you.
Enjoyed it. 😉
Great stuff Ben, I imagine trying to edit a show like that would have been tough. Keep up the great work.
Great video!!! So informative.
Great stuff. Crazy handlebar got rofl lol
Thanks for this Tour. Many greetings from good old Vienna 🎡 🎩
Gary Fisher sporting the OG Pimp Daddy look as nobody can. You go Gary, AKA The Godfather of MTB.
a nice video . very laid back pace with lots of visual lingering .👍
the only negative was hearing the term " gravel" tires . .its a personal tic of mine .😂 the first " gravel " tire was probably fishers
"ground Control " MTB tire . that's considered skinny by todays tires .
Hate to see the industry suffering but man, what a great time to be a consumer. I’ve upgraded both my xc and cx bikes in the last few months and feel like I stole them.
Enjoy the ride it like you stole it. 😀
as someone who bought new bikes in 2022, 2023, and as of this week, 2024, I totally agree. Great deals to be had out there right now. Also hate to see the industry suffer but hard to feel too sympathetic after watching them jack up prices by 40% after COVID. Hopefully they had the foresight to save some of that windfall for now
Well, the bike industry has probably been stealing from you for years, so fair play.
was that a 'Defend Your Market Share' booth?🙃
18:44 At first I thought they built left-hand drive bikes, but the picture was just mirrored xD
Great video of the show. One minor point, not showing Gary Fisher's full get up was just like the Colnago in the small chain ring on display.
Noted! Just got Gary here at Sea Otter, so watch that video when I get it posted - hopefully tonight!
Ben puts on glasses, Linda Hamilton walks by and starts screaming
Pretty cool!
I have a drawing here on my desk
of a new bike with electric drive - no chain at all -
the pedals turn a geared-up generator and motors in both wheels also provide effortless electric braking.
EVERYONE that sees the drawing says it is beautiful, "sweet", and I have shown it around enough that it is now in the Public Domain, free for all to use.
How many years will it be before some bike company dares to make such a great design? 20years?
30? 50?
18:45 Canyon does this too and I’ve seen a few Fara’s in Europe for example Alina Jager is a brand ambassador
nice job, not over the top, some humor and showing really cool stuff.
Good coverage
Thanks Ben! Nice overview! I like the 3-D printed derailleurs. Can you post a link?
Now I need a gun mount for my bike!
Tubing brand Tange Design now owns lug and dropout maker Long Shen. Yasujiro is Tange’s frame/bike marque
Any insights about the Wheeltop EDS electronic groupset? It seems they are releasing hydraulic and rim brake versions for road bikes.
There’s an old video of the Pennsylvania Cannondale facility production line…and there was a wheel tensioning machine showcased…this was from the eta of maybe CAD2/3 frames…🥰
I'm still waiting for Trek to come out with a bike that changes colours every 5 minutes, so they don't have to paint their bikes different colours every 5 minutes.
I rarely paid any attention to the Taiwan section of the old Interbike but it's kinda fun to see how much stuff is made there but ends up with brand names that confuse the consumer as to its origin. How many of 'em just show up and say, "Gimme X thousand of those with my brand-name on 'em" ...doing nothing else but writing a check? Marketing, marketing, marketing.
Great coverage, as always Ben!!!
Can you look for some XC full suspension mountain bikes like the SPCYCLE brand or the Lexon brand
FARA, yes i have heard of them. They are Norwegian. Just like Pronghorn from Denmark i heard Nice things about them.
Ah cool, thank you.
Ben, maybe spend some time discussing the new products you're showing us? Seems like a lot was quickly passed over or went by in the background that looked interesting. Hopefully another channel will cover the show like GCN.
After hearing several industry analysts discussing the industry glut/oversupply, I went to two of my LBS hoping to find some screaming deals and they seemed to be very low in stock of medium and higher end bikes. Also one alluded that they have kind of quit doing business with Specialized....
Anyway as a consumer...when are we going to find some deals on this oversupplied market???
Great video. Question...what camera did you use to shoot this video?
DJI Osmo 3
4:00 that actually would look nice with a -17 stem. Maybe even a -20!
18:40 Fara is a small Norwegian brand sitting in Oslo
Interested from Philippines, with the lightweight but quality derailleur, does it come to the market now?
Where can i get that egretta bike from? It’s absolutely bonkers. Love at first sight
As now 76 I bought my - last bike for the vacation money sawed, during Covid19. A by then, Top 2019 "SuperlightM6LXBrompton" foldingbike, to take on our, till then many vacations on the Island/State of Malta! Sadly my dear wife didn't quite agree, as they drive in the wrong side on narrow roads, with extremely much traffic on the very much populated Islands, so instead I have made it much lighter than originally, with all the titanium and carbon parts to find and add. For now very close in weight to their latest "Contraption" of that kind, a Brompton full titanium, folding bike, and now with a lot of problems!!
But mine for a much less price and with more gears. Finn. Denmark
By the way, that spiffy Ryuger e-bike retails for only a mere $20,000! They have one in red that is Da Bomb! Still, if I'm going to spend that amount of money, I think I'd get a Harley.
Interesting show, maybe prices on bikes etc will get better priced like lower.
Wow , some how this is how the market is going to be going towards, as far as I can say is pull replacement and HI END IS ENDING
When are we gonna get some new merch from The Ride?
Where is the Wright Brothers' booth?😅
So much bicycle culture.
15:45 I'm in. They're my kind of bicyclist!
Although I do prefer walnut to polymer for bicycle gear.
The bikes seem to run the full spectrum, from racing bikes to high performance road bikes. But I'm a utility cyclist, so a cargo or commuter bike would be more my speed. Any of those there?
26:06 "tiny air wheel" someone knows what is it? Looks like an hydroforming piece
14:30. The bike ducati should make😂
Did you see “Eddy Merckx” at the show??
12:15 so is this coming out or has someone tried it?
I suspect it's going to be either Specialized or Trek that gets bought out. One of them and I'm not sure exactly owes giant millions and millions of dollars as well as Parts manufacturers. Huge debt on top of a glut of inventory.
4:57 That's an answer to a question that no one asked.
15: 45 essential gear for riding in London or other insane cities .
Are there BMX manufacturers at this show ?
So, any run-ins with Shane, Ray or James?😉 thanks for the video - these are always fun!
15:45 Please explain. What's that got to do with bikes?
I'd prefer more of the inside business news than the shiny stuff
Gary Fisher's statement that some big brands being sold off is the real scoop here, since he sold his brand to Trek, I guess Trek might be on the auction block considering their drawdown of SKUs. Bontrager is being phased out, or maybe sold off piecemeal. Will they sell of the Klein, Bontrager, and Gary Fisher lines separately or all one package.
The Klein and Fisher brands are long gone.
@@TheRidewithBenDelaney The brand may be gone but Trek still has the IP, someone may pick it up for cheap and resurrect it with a line of cheap Walmart/Amazon bikes with a legacy name.
@dblat1291 good point.
4:19 Triple Mercedes spokes? 😂
all black V4RS
Kaleidoscope rims?
Fisher should be in politics . a few seconds of rambling followed by " and that's what's going on "
Can't be in any one location too long or his kids will come looking...
One of those displays is not like the others.
Cycle freedom
19:47 hahahaha
Do you ever stay home?
Giant...1 color 5 sizes
Bob Jackson...17 sizes 75 colors
Remember, industry does things that make life easier for them while convincing you that it's "high tech" and charging you more. Threadless headsets save bike companies billions and make adjusting your bars difficult and limited.
Can you do a review on the Black Inc Five aero wheel please.
Pretty sure even Black Inc knows they're not fast😂 I know they're not UCI legal for road racing but nobody TTs with them, and they're totally legal for gravel races but none of their riders used them.
*I know I've used similar wheels and they've had a very poor ride quality.
the bumps on the inside of the aero wheels are very clever. whales have the same bumps at the end of their fins. evolution made them develop those in order to improve water flow over the fins and minimize drag. i love it when humans steal biology evolution features from other animals and use it to improve aerodynamics on bicycle wheels for example.
Everyone and their aunt was buying bikes during covid, and all the manufacturers and shops gorged themselves on their newfound clientele wallets, and increased their prices because demand was surpassing offer. My TXC Advanced Pro 2 went from $2500 CAD pre-covid to now $4000 CAD. Prices are absolutely ridiculous now. The bike industry is only reaping what they sowed. Good. Like Gary said - some of them will be for sale cheap soon.
did you just complain about an appreciating asset
Can’t figure out why Ben makes me cringe. But there it is I said it. Oh well, some enjoy this content.
Well, I hope you feel better now that you’ve got that off your chest. 😅
We could see more of bikes and less of face
Looks like there's no rules in that room, by the way random assault weapons at a bike convention?
for all the people who like looking at stuff, kudos.
No mtb?😢
Looks like they borrowed a few ideas from Destiny.
Trade shows , nothing worse as an employee, bunch of arses trying to shill , mind you I like your content pal and that’s why I’m here . Overpriced shite though
The Chinese to English translations still kill me. You spend that much to set up a booth at a show but can't spend an extra $100 or so to have a native English speaker check over your final grammar? Hell, I bet Joe from China Cycling would even do it for free.
Nah you’re right. Rough English translations are definitely more off putting than the gun booth at a cycle show… you know guns? The things that actually kill you.
So long as the context is there, I think they're fun Easter Eggs. As Philippine/US Citizen regularly using both languages, I'm happy it happens😅
That should just tell you how big the Chinese market is. I think you overestimate the need for an English translator.
English is not a language for the citizens of England anymore. It has bee emposed by the empire on many nations and now it lost its connection to root and evolving independently. This simplified language is widely spoken and understood so it does what it is meant to do. So what that some purist cringe. So do others cringe about inability of people from England or US to speak any foreign language.
Uh, for every English speaking person there are 25 who speak other languages, Americans are NOT the center of the world.
zero useful information
I saw absolutely nothing new.
Well I will never buy a Maxxis tyre in my life again. It completely and utterly sucks. Let stand that I will not check where the parts come from. Anything from China OR Taiwan, sorry, but I don't want it. I like Europeans to have a better chance, I want nature to have a better chance, and I am completely done with world geo political crap. So no more. It will be European or American, and the rest I will ignore as much as can. Let m do their thing I am fine with it. But not sponsored out of my pockets. Good luck!
Sound is not bad. Video is mostly the guys face, few bikes. Stopped watching at 5 min.