Solid But Outclassed - Bf 109 K-4
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- Опубликовано: 30 июл 2022
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Fuel: 20 Minutes
20 mm ammo: Stealth
Gun pods yes but because I am rusty.
13mm: IAI
Convergence: 600 meters
Vertical Targeting: No
Crew: maxed (lvl 75) + ace
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Outro: A.N.O. - Vanish
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DEFYN's dictionary for P-51s while flying the 109:
H= Hell
D= Dead
The p51 could've just flown away after he lost the first pass
hahahahah
@@Arthur_Neves Doubt it. The K-4 is the superior plane actually. It will use its climb rate to negate the altitude advantage the Mustang had at the start.
@@ryanjonathanmartin3933 p51 would just keep flying straight and slightly nosing down and do a quick barrel roll downwards towards the direction of the belly of the 109 to instantly position on the 109's tail. That's how reversals work.
Whenever you see that D, you're gonna be happy. Wait....
That P-51D, man. Has a huge energy advantage and then... turn fight.
The funniest is the Corsair he killed first, climbing sharply on a K4 high above it, then stall out. Well played son
P-51D-30: has surprisingly good turn rate above 400kph, despite its poor turn radius.
That pilot: dive, pull up super hard, gets into lower speed one-circle fight
He didn’t properly turn fight on top of this. He messed up his rate, didn’t go out of plane once he saw lead was on him. In a rate fight you always go out of plane if a guy has lead.
But even before that he should’ve went vertical.
@@Turk3YbAstEr The D-30 should’ve eventually put turned this K-4 due to the gun pods and such. But the pilot wasn’t patient, and calm.
Therefore he missed his out of plane maneuver opportunity. Ppl don’t realize what they do wrong sometimes and repeat the same mistake.
@@Turk3YbAstEr the p51D doesn't do good at rate fights, it pulls 13-14Gs and then becomes a brick. It's like an F104.
with every video defyn seems to ascend further into madness
Yeah ikr he just descends further into madness but ascends higher into skill level
Well the fucking retards who are often 90% of the teams are quite hard to endure and remain sane...
Savagery level increases
Yes, I love seeing you fly bf109s, especially the K4, against superior opponents, it just highlights how skillful you are, love your content.
Pinnacle of German engineering, and it has a hamster wheel powering the crank for the flaps.
Lol, they would be on fire due to the test pressures of the supercharger, the K-4 in game, not so historical, and same with both Ta-152s they would be a fire ball because of the engine tune we have, they did not use these tunes as they literally caught on fire.
Also the trim wheel for the horizontal stabilizer which reminds me , Gaijoob pls model horizontal stabilizers instead of setting elevator trim
@@datmanz5890 k4 doesn't have turbo🤣
The wep can be used for 5minutes and last for 10 minutes of use I think in real life
@@sule.A oops a supercharger, still, k 4s were literally undertuned to prevent fires.
virgin preset degree flap system vs chad transitional flap system.
I'd take the wheel but you literally need to turn 22 whole circles to set the flaps for landing.
ok big man if the energy difference was 20000cal. then whats caloric value of the jets I eat for breakfast?
what's the micro and macro nutrients of jets, we're trying to cut weight here goddammit
If the questions is transferred into joules of energy as oppose to calories, it is a lot more simple.
The outnumbered dogfight on the deck was great, I would appreciate a shot at maybe analyzing mistakes made in fights you lost and how you would have flown it had you been given a second chance. It would help the average pilot think more critically of their playstyle.
I'd do that but i only died once making this video and it was a pretty uneventful one
I use deaths when there's something that adds to the video
@@DEFYN Understandable
@@DEFYN would you someday do something like checking people's deaths and say why they died and how could they avoid dying in the same kind of situations?
@@kingghidorah8106 I feel like he does that now in narration, I.e. “why did this guy take this head on, if he just turn fought me he would have likely won.” It’s there, but you have to read between the lines.
Not to be overly critical, but calling people who play mouse aim, third person plane games 'pilots' is like calling people who play CoD 'soldiers'. If he was a simulator player or something that's one thing, but this is just about as far away from real piloting as you could get.
Wow actual footage of defyn landing.
Never thought I'd see it.
F2G spam killed 5.7 air rb. Before the event that introduced the f2g, 5.7 was one of the hottest, and most played, brs. People like to blame the ju 288s, but that's only because the teams have 7 players. God I hate f2gs, they ruined my favorite br.
I think it's both
288 already made it quite meh for a lot of matches
And then the f2g spam killed whatever was left of it
@@DEFYNIt's a shame, I really enjoyed props at that br :(
I stopped playing my ta 152 because of these shit planes
@@brunovictorpizate5516 As did everyone.
@@DEFYN I remember 5.7's glory, K-4s and Dora's duking out spitfire and tempest and D-30s P51's and so on
would love to see you play the Ta152H1 again, probably my favorite plane in the entire game despite the pain that the 6.0 german air match making brings with it, as well one of the few planes that can go toe to toe against the P51H
I would like to see video about G-10. I remeber it was perfect at 5.3 but it was like 2 years ago and now it's at 5.7.
same for the J5N1, but 5.7 doesn't go to 6.3 as much as 5.3, so it's actually more comfortable to play (talking about the J5N1)
Stick with G-6, anything german between 5.0 and 6.7 just gets clapped.
I researched Bf.109K-4 few days ago. I'm not a good air rb player, but your videos are so helpful for me. Thank you so much for describing tactics for my favourite plane =)
It's good to see that other people are featuring my userskins in their videos, too. And thanks for providing the link in the description. I appreciate the credit!
Great flying and commentary as always, truly enjoyed watching this while ingesting my daily morning calories :)
I'd love to see a series of you flying all the 109's, and ranking them. Might be an idea?
That was some beautiful flying 🫡 thank you for making helpful videos. Believe me I study your game 😊 and will apply some your teachings/preaching. Thanks again and looking forward to more videos like this
Thank you very much for the constant uploads our great mentor & flyer🌷💪💪
“Currently, I’m on my motorcycle carving some canyons” thats the biggest takeaway from this video 😎
Your sense of humor never fails to make me smile. Thanks man.
that was a very fun video to watch thank you Defyn!
I am constantly loving the uploads 😁
Enjoy your holiday mate. Great video
Thank you for playing my fav plane, its really hard to play it now when your team is filled with ju 288 and you are that one of two guys in fighters.
Yesterday i was looking for gameplay on this thing and saw ur old vid, you read my mind and uploaded a new one nice
love this video! Very informative!
Ride safely with your motorcycle brotha and stay safe
Il try to not high side off a cliff 🙏
I used to love the fights against k-4s in my lfmk 9. They were pure fun 😊
One thing i really like about the bf 109s is their strenght,if u dont get hit in the engine or pilot ,you can fly slow but still can
Hey defyn, don’t want you to take it out, just want your thoughts on the hornet mk.1, I know there’s not much difference besides the engines (and I know there’s a huge difference there) and that it’s a premium, but besides that I’ve been able to do exactly what a mk.3 does just a little slower if you get me, the only arch nemesis I’ve found to that plane is the ki-83. It’s the only other plane (if you don’t spawn late) that is at that altitude when I get mid map.
You're a monster with wings man. Great flying.
Amazing Video!! Thanks a lot for it!
Oh, c'mon, just i unlocked this plane and played it for some games, DEFYN gives me a good video to learn from. A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one!
Fond memories of spading this while wanting to kms in 2015, then it got buffed and reigned surpreme, and now it’s just a shadow of what it used to be
YES DUDE, I remember screaming in agony pre-buff with the 30mm
@@taffa4900 and the nonexistent elevator, fighting spitfires back when they had arc reactors powering their engines so they didn’t lose energy the way they do now
Impressive gameplay, without a doubt.
I love the 109 G and K (not the G-2). Having the 30mm in the nose means I can click anyone out of the air like nothing, and the 20mm on the wings are a buffer if I run out of 30mm ammo
Exelent flying, Exelent sense of humor, as always.
I uninstalled WT months ago, but something about your videos tempts me to give it another chance
No don't come back game still shit.
Stay in salvation
Calories.
I was giggling stupidly for about 3 min.
I need to get back in this plane. The 109 series has been my favourite since getting the game. Too much time in damn jets
Woooo! Some K-4 footage for the current meta. I really like flying this these days, it still has the tools to deal with 6.0/6.3, but it is a challenge. Day 7 of asking DEFYN to revisit the Dora! :D
which dora? Fw-190-D13? i've got this plane for years but never managed to do well with it. Getting the nose where you want in Fw was always a challenging task for me :D
@@TrixoPLAYS any of them, really. I’m partial to the D-12, the tech tree variant of the D-13 with a 30mm and 2 20s rather than 3 of the 151s. I prefer this one mostly for the skin, the underbelly is red, and the stopping power of the 30mm. They seem to have done a buff to all 190s elevator authority sometime last year, and that helped a lot with the Dora. The lowered br of 5.0 is also really comfortable for the plane. Overall the plane is a great energy fighter.
@@galvaniclegend917 Personally at 5.0 I'd rather take the A-8 over any of the D models. Equal or better firepower to the best of the D models, little bit weaker performance but you get the airspawn. Plus I love the speed at which you can put the takeoff flaps out at. Really helps to get the nose around when you can sacrifice airspeed.
@@thunderhead6133 you can get the flaps out even higher in the Dora, and it’s more powerful inline engine sees me to ~5Km just before or at the same time as almost every A8 I’ve flown with. The air spawn is nice, but the Dora’s extra power makes up for it. It’s also much lighter than the A8, given all the extra 20mm and ammo the A8 carries. This makes the Dora a superb energy fighter at 5.0 imo. The air spawn and extra fire power on the A8 is sure nice, I won’t deny that. I just prefer the performance of the Dora. Plus, the beautiful Red Baron-esque skin on the D-12 :D
I was waiting for this video. Just to see how I completely messed up the fight with my P38. I need to re-learn how to use twin engines fighter... Anyway, it was fun seeing you in game.
PS : Keep providing this kind of content, allways a pleasure to learn something.
not much difference between 1 engine and 2 engines, just the flight characteristics are different for every plane
This is my favorite video of defyn and my favorite 109 in the game
Edit: a year later, this thing is still my favorite 109 and vid❤ def earned the views here
awesome video man ,long time didnt watch u
great video. enjoyed it.
Try the Ta 152H saw you and adamtheenginerd dogfight each other with it and the p51h still love the thing only issue is matchmaking. Half your team on a good day are bombers and you’re left with 2-4 fighters at best. Pro is you can get double aces left and right in the thing con is if u fight a competent team u can’t dogfight a 1v4 since ur one of 2 fighters on your team. 288 spam makes axis 6.0 lovely. Same applies to ki-83 tbh in my experience
Yum bombers, my favorite target 🤤🤤🤤🤤
finally props are back
Next 3 will be as well
@@DEFYN cool
Excited for the p-51 video :D
YESSSSS K4 VIDEO LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOO IT'S BEEN FOREVER
What are some good tips for top tier play when you’re teamed up with at least one other person? I notice a lot of war thunder videos with a focus on solo play, but there are next to none if any that give advice for team play. When I say team of course I mean grouping up with at least one other player before starting a match.
It actually seems like you had a lot of fun in the 109 :D
I like using the 13mm IAI tracers only as well since the 13mm IAI tracer has a closer velocity to the 20mm HEI round than the 20mm tracers.
Wasn’t a fan of this once I got it because of the stock grind, but once I saw this video and upgraded it for the most part, it has easily become one of my favorite
i cant get a single kill in it stock because everyone outclimbs me
@@PineappleElephant68I got 8 depression states from using it in stock
@@dudus9287 now that it's upgraded i have something like 7 K/D in it :)
@@PineappleElephant68 is it better than g10/g14?
@@dudus9287 yeah
My favourite prop!
I outclimb everything in this thing. Usually the Americans I face are not climbing correctly
needed to stop by and thank you for all the tips you give us. I've been watching your vids instead of actually playing WT for a while now but I decided yesterday to get back into it. After breaking off the rust I managed an 8 kill game with a 2:15 minute Ace in my f9f cougar. I used to be alright at the game but I know for a fact I never would have been able to manage that game had I not been watching your videos during my break. I will admit though that I did a dirty thing when I accidently missiled a friendly who was in 2nd place. I feel really bad about it but it really put the pressure on to win the game in the end just barely (150 points us vs 1125 them). Keep up the great content and keep dropping your infinite wisdom, we all need it lol
Legendary 109! No matter how many planes I play, this one always feels sweet to take for a ride. Never tried it with gunpods before, though. Good excuse to revisit it.
Btw, how about taking the Harrier GR.3 (or is it the GR.1? Well, the tech tree one) out sometime? Cheers!!
I absolutely love the K4, the 30mm HEI rounds truly do wonders on everything.
As German air players know
minengeschoss = instant death
My advice on how to play it?
Stay at a mid to high altitude. don’t engage turn fighters. when in a bad position simply use your energy advantage to climb. Be conservative with your cannon rounds as you only get 65, but when you have a clear shot use your cannons as they will often one shot anything
I think joules would be the scientifically accepted unit of measurement when speaking to potential energy advantages in the atmosphere.
No it's clearly calories
Agreed
@@Xiphactinus No no no, it's clearly supposed to be measured in Beard per second 🙄
Impressive. Very nice.
This video is coming in handy because I need practice with this plane.
that first kill man that was so nice
I know this is off topic, but what is your PC setup? I've just been curious what you use to capture footage, what your specs are, and whether you run movie settings, etc. Keep up the video, I haven't played in a while, but I just built a monster PC and have wanted to give it a go again.
:o I cant wait for the P51-H, I've been flying it out a lot lately and its such a nice prop to play! Can't wait for it. Love the video keep it up!
I have 1700 matches in it; by far my most played vehicle. It’s a great plane but the matches can be boring after a while. I’ve played hundreds of small 6v6 matches with four braindead 288s. Gets kinda tiresome shooting down 288s
p51 h is easy mode
@@Ricardo-ck7zd yeah but its so boring against 288 spam, its just not fun chasing bombers
Hey DEFYN, here's some quick tips for the K-4 I've learned while trying to get it to work with the new shitty matchmaking and bomber filled German teams. First, due to the way the propeller pitch is modeled, the instructor is actually shit at running the plane at maximum efficiency. At speeds below 250 KM/h indicated, the plane loses a shit ton of thrust because the instructor is scared of overrevving the engine.
This means:
1. Slow-ass takeoff speeds
2. Inefficient climb at low speed
3. Bad at holding on in stall fights (this is very bad for the bf 109 because it likes stall fighting)
To fix #1: Before takeoff, set propeller pitch to 73% until you are at about 240 KM/h indicated. Then switch back to auto engine control or auto propeller control. This trick will get you an extra 700 kgf in thrust and cut takeoff time in half. It takes about 5 tries in test flight to make this habit, it's absolutely worth it.
To fix #2: Keep AoA below 5° while climbing, aka climb at about or above 260 KM/h. If you go below this, you will lose propeller efficiency, which slows you down, which worsens propeller efficiency. It's a vicious cycle.
To fix #3: When you are in a fight and go below 250 KM/h indicated, set propeller pitch to about 68-70% I recommend setting propeller pitch to this after takeoff, then just putting it on auto control and switching to manual when needed for the extra thrust.
Adam514 did a video explaining this problem in depth here > ruclips.net/video/dhpgy8-A8IA/видео.html&t
Happy hunting.
he knows it
@@kingghidorah8106 I didn't watch the video just leaving it there in case
Bro you're trying to teach the bible to the vicar
@@taffa4900 He's not some untouchable omniscient god you know, just a good WT pilot that makes youtube videos.
All this because gaijin can't make a great Instructor.
Maybe it’s because i’ve flown 109s a lot but I don’t think the K4 is even close to being outclassed, the only planes it usually faces that are better than it are the P-51H, the yak-3 vk107 and arguably the Spitfire mk22.
F4Us, F8Fs, Tempests, P51Ds and F2Gs are super easy to deal with, especially at the start of the match because you will be above them and at medium-high altitude their engines suck, LFMk9 spitfires can be annoying but 1v1 you just need to get them to 6000m, griffon spitfires are very annoying when they 2v1 you (happens a lot) but you can always run away from them.
The real problem for the k4 is ju288 spam
Wow I’m Impressed
Hi, I’m looking for some advice about what to do at the start of the match. Would you usually side climb with your team or away from your team? Any MEC usage while climbing? Engine temperature management? TIA!
at 5.7/6.0 germany it's best to just climb with what little fighter's you are bound to have on your team, other then that specific range it depends on what plane you are using/how many teammates you have/what nations you are playing/fighting. MEC wise if you are talking about the k4 climb at 280kmh ias with 100% radiators and WEP, when taking off you can set the prop pitch to 70% until you hit 200kmh ias (when it doesn't make a difference if you have auto on or not) this helps due to the 109 having a relatively small prop thus being more efficient at higher rpms, be careful not to go over 70% though cus any higher and your engine WILL nuke itself.
ruclips.net/video/dhpgy8-A8IA/видео.html adam made a really good video explaining this
Man you got me laughing with the calories of energy
I like how defyn is afraid of a p51 h, but it could be me flying it, and if it's me I'm sure I'd get my checks clapped by most 3.0 planes hahaha
2:02 is no one gonna talk about the giga roast here🤣🤣🤣🤣
Defyn I think ur a good pilot. I love ur vids and I’ve never seen you play the banshee. It is my first and only jet and I can only get AT MOST 3 kills and could I see a vid on that because I need to get better in that plane
That plane is bad. 8.3 with no performance. The 20s are nice but that is literally the only good thing the plane has
I too am terrified of the p51 haytch
Germany: *gets historically accurate, capable fighter*
Allies: *gets prototype super fighters that never saw combat*
The also have rocket planes, bombers that never saw combat, experimental fighters and even crazier stuff like the Ho 229
@@imperialinquisition6006 Well yeah, but you forget my dude this is a Russian made free to play game. That means there’s always gotta be something to bitch about, even if sometimes there isn’t.
Now let’s watch and see if anyone makes an assumption about my statement.
I unlocked this. Got excited. Then bummed out because I immediately die alot and the repair costs on this thing...
I’m curious how you fly like that with sustained angular turns while panning the camera around. I’d imagine it’s with a joystick and mouse combo?
I love it when he rants about not understanding why people go head on with extreme advantages it always gets bettter
I like flying this thing too, but when I fight P-51H I just want to never fly this again. Is there anything that can be done to counter a P-51H??
I remember when this plane was top dog in the German tech tree ;)
Hi DEFYN, would it be possible to get a video on the current J21As and the J21RA. I'm really struggling with the RA and for some reason just can't make it work at its current BR :(
"sorry bro the fire didnt render and i was already shooting it's a team game bro dont be so aggressive" - that ta152, definitely.
17:50 immediate gratification i'd say. blame the grind, blame social media, blame all sorts of things, but this is what happens when you put people with 'i want it now' mentalities in situations where even a few seconds of patience is a virtue.
Well said, whole odd shape that "realistic" battles took is because of the will of impatient and insecure to be called "pilots" with minimal effort or understanding. It is a game ofcourse but we have an easier mode for a reason here but most of current rb players wont touch it because of ignorance in thinking they are so over it while doing shit like climbing their planes
at 200kph and then all diving at single enemy to try and steal it no matter how long they played which they do out of sheer desperation in madness they so love to prolong every day where they refuse to learn any shit but expect better results.
@@eldarguardian6485 "they refuse to learn any shit but expect better results"
Why gaijin seems to be constantly lowering the BRs of US planes like the f89s and aircobras, in a nutshell
@@eldarguardian6485 they don't play arcade because people laugh at them for that.
@@Hadgerz and then instead of up BR the P51H to 6.7 let's move the G14 and the D9 to 5.0 and make American mains seethe over germen bies once again, even though a P47D28 can absolutely bag these in a vertical dogfight and the P51D30 can just roll and reverse or spiral them up if it has energy advantages.
Great gameplay. I just love the 109 "stall them" machine. What was the gun convergence range you were using?
600m. That information is in the description of most of not all his videos
check description. always.
Sure, thank you boys... Someone has to ask to generate all this comments for the channel, right? 😉
600m, its in the description of most of his videos.
That first kills name was VERY accurate for him... what a numpty move....
this plane is great in ground rb. it can kill almost everything easily. both tanks and planes.
we need some motovlogs from you defyn
Struggling with setup currently :(
@@DEFYN damn, what bike do you have
2017 fireblade SP
@@DEFYN damn thats sick
@@DEFYN That's a very nice bike.
What motorcycle are you riding? Currently making my motorcycle license and I´m not yet sure what kind of bike I want to buy afterwards. Maybe you can give some advise?
Do you have a video showing your control setup? I play m&k and I'm wondering how you are turning while in free look
Hey defyn can you make an engine management guide ? i know you have a mec guide but thats does not trasnlate to manage overheating while wep is on.
I could do that but none would watch it
Is there any chance you could take a look at the t2/f1 in their current states, the reason being that imo the title of this video fits them very well.
Man you talked about the zero like the Japanese in WW2 were able to predict it was gonna be put in a videogame and be given bad stats
First of all rly nice video GG. But You have to understand @17.37 that not everyone is professional pilot. Majority of us are jus playing game 2-3 hrs in a week. We are got no clue how to control planes as good as you, for me personal it's like black magic. I LOVE plains with all of my hart and I will continue playing even if I'm shtest pilot in the universe. C U in the sky friend ;)
Ah yes the menace of clouds.... bf 109.. my fave as all our fav... f 4 :)
I love the k4 but the 2v6 with ju288s on my team against f2gs
Learned everything Ik from this guy😂
Huh. I have never ran the gun pods on the k4 and it is still a fantastic aircraft. I am certain that not taking them is more beneficial than it seems...
The calories joke killed me lmao
Early gang. hope to get this plane soon on the g2 currently
Dont Skip the G6, its a beast
"They call me Cadillac. Because I'm smooth, I drive straight; I got power... Personal power."
Haven't seen you flying the Ki-100 II, like to know your opinion.
k4 is one of my favorite german props, ta152 h vid anytime soon ?
i sub because of ODDbawz and your video just letting you know
Nice 109 K-4 vid, but how about Ta-152 H-1 for the next video?
As far as i remember those pods are 20mm, but you still get x2 7.92 and 1 30mm cannon. So those head ons are people eating 30s, 7.92 AND 20s.
13mm not 7.92s
any sane person switches the engine canon 30mm for the 20mm and the cowl guns are 13mm not 8mm
@@sparkling925 20mm weighs more and takes more shots to down a plane. So idk why'd you want to do that if you can actually aim the 30 is just fine.
@@godofhate4167 because the amount you get outweighs the worse damage atleast thats how i see it and everyone else that i have seeen
keep in mind that in most games you have to 1v6 the the enemy team and 65 rounds will no suffice at all, considering that the 13mm are kinda ass
@@sparkling925 I mean one burst of 5 should really suffice with 30s. You shouldn't be spraying with 20s. I'm sure you'll get there the more you fly the k4. Personally I prefer the g6 with wing pod 30s.