Vocalist Chris Barnes left during the production of this album, due to a difference of opinion about how much material to include. The rest of the band wanted to release a full-length album, but Barnes only wanted to release an EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE P.
Hey man, thank you a ton for uploading this! I'm a long time CC and SFU fan, and I forget sometimes that this demo even exists! It's going to take me quite a few listens before I can say what my favorite track is, all are incredible.
@TheFocus05 You like that version of Disfigured more than the version on Vile? Cuz that's what 'Unburied Horror' is - the demo version of Disfigured. When George comes in on vocals on that track it sounds a lot better than Chris growling for a second and doing nothing else like in this version. But to each their own, I guess.
@@zachdalmaso2131 just something about the demo quality sound and chris' tired ass blown out voice just works for me. the Vile version is still great, but i feel like George's vocals really got good after Vile.
I can clearly remember interview with the band in a 1996 Metal Hammer magazine. There they explained why they sacked Barnes out of the band. Supposedly he sent them out of the recording studio and recorded the vocals alone. He told them he has a "surprise" for them. But the vocals were too "mild", lacked brutality.... I am not sure if this is the version, because the vocals sound quite typical Barnes to me...
@@sweetypuss To be fair, he's a stinky fucking hippy that reeks of patchouli and moldy weed. And he's kind of a dork. But the band suffers without his input as vocalist or songwriter.
This cover art is just some goofy fan shit. If you want to see the real cover art for CTK watch the ‘compelled to illustrate’ feature on disc 3 of Centuries of Torment.
@@bumface1810 Yeah I know the cover art was designed by a fan but I love it. I've seen the cover art you're talking about from Centuries of Torment and I love it as well.
I emailed Vince Locke years ago asking for a scan or print to buy of the CTK art… No response. I wish one day CC will re-release this demo on it’s own disc in a card sleeve with the Vince Locke art.
@@bumface1810 Too bad you didn't get a response. At least you tried. I totally agree on a re-release with the Locke art. That'd be great. Hopefully with the original Cannibal Corpse logo. To my knowledge Chris Barnes owns it/owns the rights to it.
@@SuperStrik9 I will ask Alex in April.... About the idea of a new rarities box set since 15 Year Killing Spree is out of print. I'm seeing CC live in April for the 7th or 8th time, and I've always been able to meet the band members outside their bus during the day.
@@skywalker3975 Seriously, though. Fisher has been singing the old stuff fabulously, and as much as I like Barnes, Chris can't even sing his own songs. His lungs would collapse if he even attempted Pounded Into Dust or even Devoured By Vermin, which he was meant to sing.
CorpseGrinder is more consistent but all he's done is try and recreate what Chris Barnes created. George is technically a better Vocalist but his Voice just doesn't reach Barnes Sheer Brutality.
I like both eras of the band, I could make a best of with either vocalist. That said I prefer corpsegrinders version of vile but that’s probably what I’m used too. Was a interesting listen regardless.
Some of these are cool and he still had some real power in his lower guttural vocals but I can hear very clearly how they were drifting apart. His patterns don't always fit the music. Not to mention how you can start to hear the damage to his voice. The switch to Corpsegrinder was a good choice.
i don't know about you but to me he fits perfectly here, his vocals suit the guitar tone, they sound darker and give the atmosphere to the whole thing. then you have the lyrics. now, they add a totally new dimension to every song. so, no, it wasn't. and just to understand each other - this, bleeding, and tomb are barnes in his prime. his voice here sounds just how a death metal vocalist should sound. CG has a better scream, but barnes takes the win as long as gutturals are concerned
@@sweetypuss somebody must have searched for it too, because i have a shirt with the exact same cover on it on roblox of all places, its even got three logo sleeveprint on both arms!
Am i the only one who thinks he sounded way better on this EP than he did on the bleeding? I know shit loads of weed were involved but he sounded sick on the bleeding this EP was still top tier vocals from him
Knowing that Chris Barnes wrote these lyrics, it feels more personal and sick. He's like a vocal serial killer on each album, racking up kills and telling us how he did it. Whereas with George, it doesn't feel as personal because he's singing other peoples thoughts. Both are incredible vocalists, but Chris's sick mind really lends to the depth and meaning when he sings his thoughts.
Barnes' lyrics were really tryhard to me, but I guess that's subjective. I never cared for DM lyrics that try too hard to be violent and edgy. Writing about murdering prostitutes or other garden variety serial killer stuff is lazy, imo. Just make it dark and evil, it doesn't have to be gory or excessively violent.
Musicians and singer who were just totally out of sync. They're doing all this rhythmic experimentation and he's still singing every line on the 1 downbeat. Total mismatch.
@@sweetypuss hey im one of the same tribe! It makes me think of a partially severed throat gurgling noises of agony But i also like stuff like Last days of humanity
The Vile finalised and released with Corpsegrinder is much better. Note that this is a demo version. Well-made songs, but with fewer solos, uncertain song names, a few less parts in the songs. Not to mention that Vile sounded better with Corpsegrinder, which means that this kind of sound, although it was ok on the demo with Chris, was better with the new vocalist at the time Good upload, southern brazilian hails
While some parts of this are cool I still think that CG was the ultimate replacement for CB. Like I have said multiple times on other posts, CB vocals today over CC music today just wouldn’t work. It would be an embarrassment to Death Metal and CC. So in retrospect the change was a blessing for CC. Check out SFU newest release, its a fucking nightmare to listen to. Now go listen to the latest CC album. Nothing revolutionary but 1000 times better than SFU releases lately.
i went to verify this and you're actually right. it's by no means 1:1, but there's lines lifted directly from this version of devoured by vermin in the song insect
Wow this is surprisingly good. Glad they didn’t use that hideous blue artwork. The VILE record w George is my favourite CC release, but this is fascinating to hear.
@@jye_24 In hindsight, yeah. George has that everpresent Spitfire bark with a ton of midrange. Chris weirdly enough has more of a scoop in his vocal timbre, massive low gutterals (Particularly on Butchered at Birth and The Bleeding) with plenty of grit in the high end.
vocal patterns on Bloodlands are so much cooler, George is a monster but growing up with Barnes and the first 3 records i always preferred Barnes in CC
And this is what happens when you aren’t willing to take constructive criticism from your band matés because your ego is unchecked. Chris could have still been in the band if he chose to work with the others on the vocal patterns. I can hear why they wanted some of them changed, some of it doesn’t mesh with the timing…it’s a shame. Considering how his vocals have changed for the worse over the years I’m glad they took Corpsegrinder. He has lungs of steel and can spit out a shitload of words like an auctioneer…
Everything happens for a reason, but I think Barnes would have left anyway. He said it was a relief when Alex said they were going to go in a different direction. I wish he could've stayed in the band, or changed their name post-Barnes because it doesn't feel the same with Corpsegrinder. With Barnes, all 4 of their proper albums sounded completely different from one another. They grew leaps and bounds with their tightness and instrumentation with each release. With, Corpsegrinder, they've kind of gotten stuck in a groove of sameness, in my opinion. Vorpsegrinder is an adequate vocalist, just nothing stands out. I like this version better, definitely, but Barnes vocals after this have suffered tremendously. Oh yea, 'Butchered at Birth' is my favorite CC album 🤘🏻
the issue is that barnes never had good technique. his vocals absolutely could've held up over the years if he didn't smoke so much and actually practiced. he'd also still be in CC if he did
The Bleeding is Cannibal Corpse at their absolute best. Everything with Fisher on vocals is muddy, the vocals all sound like he has a mouth full of oatmeal, and the production is just too atonal, with no variety.
six feet under did a live cover of Decency Defiled (a corpsegrinder track) back in 2017 and i thought he did a fine job. he's actually gotten way better with his speed and if you listen to any SFU tracks from the past decade or so, that shows. i actually quite like his vocals still (except on nightmares of the decomposed, idk what happened there)
This demo fukkin Killz!!!! The vokill and writing styles are well evident. And YES The OG logo. I want the butchered at birth shirt, my old one from 93/94 gave up and fell apart. That their BEST and definitive album IMO....Great demo.
This demo can already rival with the final album, so imagine if CREATED TO KILL have been correctly finished in the studio... We've missed something huge. Vile is a good album but it had to be a Chris album...
The band makes it sound like what he was doing is trash. This is literally fine. His voice is iconic and the patterns are natural and organic. Corpse grinders voice just isn't that interesting. It has no dynamics or character. Very flat.
Fishers timing and use of rhythm are more skilled and at some parts more fit more in the music. But I like Barnes his sound and attitude way better. Love this version of what would become Vile. I wonder how Barnes would approach Monolith, one of my favourite CC songs
Very unproduced and unthought out compared to the Fisher version. I get that most album demos suffer from that, but like someone else said, the patterns are all off, no cohesion or any hooks or anything. I guess it explains a lot
Barnes can't keep up with the time signatures, he was just doing what he wanted at the tempo he wanted, it doesn't match in a lot of parts, they we going more technical and needed better vocal patterns, he just couldn't do it
I'd say yes and no. Some of his timing created better more natural sounding patterns and not so robotic and structured. What would have been cool is if he went back and fixed the parts that didn't sound as cool being unstructured. that would have taken more time and from what i understand Chris was adamant about not changing his vocal patterns. I'm not sure if the rest of the band wanted him to completely change everything or just some spots to clean things up. The fact that they weren't getting along couldn't have helped that situation either.
Thankfully someone talking sense. Took alot of scrolling down the comments to get past the Barnes arse kissers. George is a much better fit. Tighter and faster vocal performance and I've always enjoyed his style from his days singing in Monstrosity. Barnes vocals aren't a patch on what George did on Vile. I'm glad they gave him the boot.
He was devoured by vermin and mummified in barbed wire before he died and rose agiain, causing bloodshed in the lands by puncture wound massacre, and killed himself. It is a gallery of the obscene
Quelque part, heureusement quecson depart a eu lieu. Jevle retrouve a ecouter presque l'entre-deux de sinister. Diabolical summoning/hate. Nous sommes en 1995 et la critique leur serait tombé dessus comme "copycat" Unburried horror pourrait aboir été sur les sessions de "hate". Cette video géniale explique bien a quel point le death métal commençait a tourner en rond. L'arrivée de corpsegrinder a donné un nouveau souffle a cannibal corpse. Super video !
George Poopgrinder Fisher is the single most overrated vocalist in metal history. This sounds 1000000000x times better than any of the crap for non-thinkers they released after he joined.
It was best for CC to split apart with Barnes. His extremely deep growling shaped the musical style and the first 4 albums are simply cult, but he also had a massive decline in his performance or voice at the end of the 90s. Today I can't even listen to Barnes anymore because he just sounds terrible. Fisher has been doing a really good job for almost 30 years and, in my opinion, he is getting more and more brutal. People should just accept that Chris was unique in his time and so is George.
After always having heard this with Corpsegrinder it’s great to hear them with Barnes. Last good thing Barnes recorded before only doing shit feet under.
Idk. Chris' vocals already sound like belching shortly after this with “Haunted” with his new band, Six Feet Under. His vocals, cadences, and flow were already starting to fall apart/off.
@@justinchitwood8916 I’m sure alex knows what he’s doing. He’s one of the best bassists of all time after all. It’s just for me, Barnes era CBC was the thing when I was in high school and stuff, so good memories tend to bias my opinion.
lets be honest chris cared about his lyrics he spent time writing them - at least he had passion you could tell when the rest of the band took over tehy just basicly wrote random shit meaningless drivver a imitation of chris
Barnes will always be the true CC vocalist, corpse grinder isnt a bad vocalist, but he doesnt fit the cannibal corpse style and kind of overpowers the rest of the band with his performance. Vile is a good album, and I like some songs like pit of zombies, scorge of iron and code of the slasher, but overall his vocals are too much and dont have the dark brutal animalistic sound barnes brought. I also think barnes's high notes get a bit too much hate. Hell, Six Feet under had a hand full of good songs after Haunted, I especially like the cover of War Machine
Finally someone said it, 1000% truth man. I always thought the same, Corpsegrinder just doesnt fit at all and like you said he overpowers the rest of the music.
The mood of this album is great.. feels like something crawling out of a crypt.. they said he wasn't measuring up to the music, but he fits it like a severed hand in a glove
Infinitely better than Vile. Don't get me wrong, I like George and just saw CC in concert two weeks ago. But this album should have been made before Chris and CC parted.
I like this version a lot, yeah, the pattern and some of the timing choices he made are kind of erratic but to me it only adds to the gruesome nature of the music
Huh, I've only recently discovered this. I was aware of the fact that Barnes was in the process of doing his vocal work for Vile when the band decided they didn't want him anymore and replaced him with Fisher. But I didn't know there actually are demos out there with Barnes. Shame that they are unofficial, though. I wish the band would release this in an official capacity, either as a separate EP or bonus material for a Vile reissue. Listening to this, I definitely prefer this version compared to the official one with Fisher. I, too, think that the Barnes era was the best the band had to offer. That's not to say that CC went south with Fisher, especially since, well, we know what happened to Chris' voice afterwards, despite making some very surprising comeback albums with SFU in somewhat recent memory. But it just isn't as personal, as Chris used to write very graphic and deranged lyrics, and the Fisher era just doesn't rival with that, not to mention there's no substitute to Hammer Smashed Face, I Cum Blood, Stripped, Raped and Strangled, and so on. CC just got... stale and repetitive afterwards. And, personally, I have to admit I'm not a fan of Fisher's style anyway. His work in Monstrosity is the only time I actually enjoyed listening to him. Otherwise, I prefer vocal styles similar to that of bands such as Demigod, Demilich, Funebrarum, Abhorrence, early Sinister, Immolation, Dead Congregation, Grave Miasma, early Benediction, Baphomet/Banished, etc. Fisher simply doesn't cut it for me stylistically... I think the lack of exercise are what eventually killed off his voice, which is a shame, since even nowadays I think he could still pull some weights if he took care of his voice, as demonstrated by the surprising comeback albums with SFU. Barnes should have also stayed for one or two more albums with CC, the band was too quick to dismiss him, as this was still a time where he was doing just fine. It was only after Haunted where things went downhill very quickly and very noticeably...
This > Vile, Barnes was the main sound and purpose of Cannibal Corpse. I love Geroges Work but he just doesn't touch Chris's early Raw Talent, Chris Barnes actually made Metal fucking Scary. Nothing after the Barnes Era can compete with his Writing and Passion to create Horror. After he left the Lyrics left, he turned Lyric sheets into Keys. There is levels to the early albums, you can enjoy them and Head bang without the Lyrics (like a poser) or you can use the Keys to Unlock the real Horrors of every word, you then truly had Discovered the Power of Death Metal.
Can anyone tell if Vile was actually re-recorded? Unless I'm a bit deaf (probably) to me the music is the same, only that in Created To Kill sounds muffled due to being not postproduced, properly mixed, EQ'ed, etc... BTW, I love this version more than Vile - just my personal taste. Thanks for sharing!
Out of time, out of focus and the EEEEEE is ridiculous. Fucking shame, really, because his gutterals actually sounded a lot better than they had done since Eaten Back to Life.
It had to do with the rhythmic patterns of the lyrics. Barnes wanted to write the lyrics himself, not necessarily taking the rhythm of the music into account. The rest of the band was more keen on streamlining both vocal delivery and riffing in unison.
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Vocalist Chris Barnes left during the production of this album, due to a difference of opinion about how much material to include. The rest of the band wanted to release a full-length album, but Barnes only wanted to release an EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE P.
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I LOL’d
Man that's comedy gold.
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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeepic comment
Barnes still sounded so nasty here, just as good as Haunted.
Hey man, thank you a ton for uploading this! I'm a long time CC and SFU fan, and I forget sometimes that this demo even exists! It's going to take me quite a few listens before I can say what my favorite track is, all are incredible.
Unburied Horror might be one of my favorite death metal songs period.
@TheFocus05 You like that version of Disfigured more than the version on Vile? Cuz that's what 'Unburied Horror' is - the demo version of Disfigured. When George comes in on vocals on that track it sounds a lot better than Chris growling for a second and doing nothing else like in this version. But to each their own, I guess.
@@zachdalmaso2131 just something about the demo quality sound and chris' tired ass blown out voice just works for me. the Vile version is still great, but i feel like George's vocals really got good after Vile.
I wasn't a fan of Vile when it came out. Once I found this it became one of my favorites. Barnes was on fire here.
And yet it's why he got the boot. They said it was terrible. I love it.
thats cause the remaining memebers were tired kf notnhaving any attention on them. not chris’s fault u choose to be a bass player or a drummer
@@user-pl7lr5dn8qThey wanted a singer with uglier hair lol
I can clearly remember interview with the band in a 1996 Metal Hammer magazine. There they explained why they sacked Barnes out of the band. Supposedly he sent them out of the recording studio and recorded the vocals alone. He told them he has a "surprise" for them. But the vocals were too "mild", lacked brutality.... I am not sure if this is the version, because the vocals sound quite typical Barnes to me...
from what i remember, they also just kinda made fun of barnes in general. i thought it was completely unfair to barnes
@@sweetypuss To be fair, he's a stinky fucking hippy that reeks of patchouli and moldy weed. And he's kind of a dork. But the band suffers without his input as vocalist or songwriter.
If that’s true it’s Bs cause he sounds way better here than he did on The Bleeding
I prefer this demo to Vile. Love the cover as you can tell by my av. 🤘
This cover art is just some goofy fan shit. If you want to see the real cover art for CTK watch the ‘compelled to illustrate’ feature on disc 3 of Centuries of Torment.
@@bumface1810 Yeah I know the cover art was designed by a fan but I love it. I've seen the cover art you're talking about from Centuries of Torment and I love it as well.
I emailed Vince Locke years ago asking for a scan or print to buy of the CTK art… No response.
I wish one day CC will re-release this demo on it’s own disc in a card sleeve with the Vince Locke art.
@@bumface1810 Too bad you didn't get a response. At least you tried. I totally agree on a re-release with the Locke art. That'd be great. Hopefully with the original Cannibal Corpse logo. To my knowledge Chris Barnes owns it/owns the rights to it.
@@SuperStrik9 I will ask Alex in April.... About the idea of a new rarities box set since 15 Year Killing Spree is out of print. I'm seeing CC live in April for the 7th or 8th time, and I've always been able to meet the band members outside their bus during the day.
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Killer!!! 🤘😈🤘😈🤘😈 Thanks so very much for this!!
His vocals sound fucking killer here, but I think I like the vocal patterns on the actual release more.
I don't
Patterns, lyrics, singing....everything is better on Vile. I'm so glad they got rid of Barnes.
@@skywalker3975 I like it more because it's better.
@@skywalker3975 Seriously, though. Fisher has been singing the old stuff fabulously, and as much as I like Barnes, Chris can't even sing his own songs. His lungs would collapse if he even attempted Pounded Into Dust or even Devoured By Vermin, which he was meant to sing.
@@skywalker3975 I'm not making fun of Chris. He too has influenced me as a vocalist.
I think Barnes should have been in Vile and then left
i like barnes vocals on bloodlands, but fisher's delivery was better
CorpseGrinder is more consistent but all he's done is try and recreate what Chris Barnes created. George is technically a better Vocalist but his Voice just doesn't reach Barnes Sheer Brutality.
I like both eras of the band, I could make a best of with either vocalist. That said I prefer corpsegrinders version of vile but that’s probably what I’m used too. Was a interesting listen regardless.
Some of these are cool and he still had some real power in his lower guttural vocals but I can hear very clearly how they were drifting apart. His patterns don't always fit the music.
Not to mention how you can start to hear the damage to his voice.
The switch to Corpsegrinder was a good choice.
i don't know about you but to me he fits perfectly here, his vocals suit the guitar tone, they sound darker and give the atmosphere to the whole thing. then you have the lyrics. now, they add a totally new dimension to every song. so, no, it wasn't.
and just to understand each other - this, bleeding, and tomb are barnes in his prime. his voice here sounds just how a death metal vocalist should sound. CG has a better scream, but barnes takes the win as long as gutturals are concerned
@balrogofmorgoth2653 to me they don't always fit perfectly
This is not accurate. This is from the album vile
it's the preliminary version of Vile from when it was called Created To Kill
The barnes drawn logo was so much fuckin cooler.
wholeheartedly agreed. i even specifically searched for a decent quality version of the album cover WITH the barnes logo on it
@@sweetypuss somebody must have searched for it too, because i have a shirt with the exact same cover on it on roblox of all places, its even got three logo sleeveprint on both arms!
@@hunterkiller20000 like your profile picture man killer band there man
@@hunterkiller20000 I like the old cannibal corpse logo more then the new one as well man
I hate seeing the new logo on the old albums
The vocals I always prefered in CC.
Am i the only one who thinks he sounded way better on this EP than he did on the bleeding? I know shit loads of weed were involved but he sounded sick on the bleeding this EP was still top tier vocals from him
He over did it with his “EEEEEE!!!!’s” on The Bleeding.
How much is shit loads lol
I do like the vocals on Created to kill also
@@RaulRamirez-jv4rn Hell no when The Bleeding came out people had never really heard his highs before, they were insane for the time.
Agreed. I always thought The Bleeding was overrated.
Knowing that Chris Barnes wrote these lyrics, it feels more personal and sick. He's like a vocal serial killer on each album, racking up kills and telling us how he did it. Whereas with George, it doesn't feel as personal because he's singing other peoples thoughts. Both are incredible vocalists, but Chris's sick mind really lends to the depth and meaning when he sings his thoughts.
really good way of putting it
Yeah I would agree always been more a fan of barnes CC era
Absolutely agree
Barnes' lyrics were really tryhard to me, but I guess that's subjective. I never cared for DM lyrics that try too hard to be violent and edgy. Writing about murdering prostitutes or other garden variety serial killer stuff is lazy, imo. Just make it dark and evil, it doesn't have to be gory or excessively violent.
Yeah I would agree I just don't really get behind George's lyrics or vocals like I did Barnes
The opening EEE, one of the things that got him fired.
Musicians and singer who were just totally out of sync. They're doing all this rhythmic experimentation and he's still singing every line on the 1 downbeat. Total mismatch.
0:01 actually Barnes wanted the album to be named "Created to EEEEEE" and that was the reason why CC booted him!
i am one of the few people on planet earth that likes the EEEEEEE, even if it's the only trick barnes has anymore
LOOL
@@sweetypuss hey im one of the same tribe!
It makes me think of a partially severed throat gurgling noises of agony
But i also like stuff like Last days of humanity
@@sweetypuss EEEEEE rules!
The Barnes Era of Cannibal Corpse was the best years of Cannibal Corpse
The Vile finalised and released with Corpsegrinder is much better. Note that this is a demo version. Well-made songs, but with fewer solos, uncertain song names, a few less parts in the songs. Not to mention that Vile sounded better with Corpsegrinder, which means that this kind of sound, although it was ok on the demo with Chris, was better with the new vocalist at the time
Good upload, southern brazilian hails
I came here to say WTF this was the vile album. I recognize Chris Barnes any day lol. I’ve never heard this before so thank you algorithm!
17:35 No Warning Shot!!!
That's really cool how he took those lyrics. changed it up a bit, and put them on No Warning Shot.
Brutal, thanks for the flag, NWS is one of my fav SFU songs.
When Frank Hassle shows up at your house
While some parts of this are cool I still think that CG was the ultimate replacement for CB. Like I have said multiple times on other posts, CB vocals today over CC music today just wouldn’t work. It would be an embarrassment to Death Metal and CC. So in retrospect the change was a blessing for CC. Check out SFU newest release, its a fucking nightmare to listen to. Now go listen to the latest CC album. Nothing revolutionary but 1000 times better than SFU releases lately.
very interesting with Chris Barnes
Back in 1996 George told me that Chris took the lyrics of Devoured by Vermin and used them for the 6fu song Insect.
i went to verify this and you're actually right. it's by no means 1:1, but there's lines lifted directly from this version of devoured by vermin in the song insect
@@sweetypuss cannibal corpse did the same thing on gore obsessed look at the lyrics of mutation of the cavader, very similar to revenge of the zombie
Someone said here that To Kill Myself is sort of the same as No Warning Shots.
This is better than what they actually put out
Indeed
Wow this is surprisingly good. Glad they didn’t use that hideous blue artwork. The VILE record w George is my favourite CC release, but this is fascinating to hear.
Corpsegrinder sounds like a Monster, Barnes sounds like a Beast, I’m glad we have both!!
other way around
@@jye_24 In hindsight, yeah. George has that everpresent Spitfire bark with a ton of midrange. Chris weirdly enough has more of a scoop in his vocal timbre, massive low gutterals (Particularly on Butchered at Birth and The Bleeding) with plenty of grit in the high end.
Corpse sounds more brutal, Chris sounded more deranged.
Corpsefrinder sounds like a George
@@Black.metal.jedi.master man I love corpsefrier
vocal patterns on Bloodlands are so much cooler, George is a monster but growing up with Barnes and the first 3 records i always preferred Barnes in CC
There are actually 4
Blood lands sounds better with Chris
@@justinchitwood8916 exactly
@@justinchitwood8916 man I just can’t agree
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And this is what happens when you aren’t willing to take constructive criticism from your band matés because your ego is unchecked. Chris could have still been in the band if he chose to work with the others on the vocal patterns. I can hear why they wanted some of them changed, some of it doesn’t mesh with the timing…it’s a shame. Considering how his vocals have changed for the worse over the years I’m glad they took Corpsegrinder. He has lungs of steel and can spit out a shitload of words like an auctioneer…
sounds like "The Bleeding" perfect following
I like the vocals but I think Corpsegrinder had a better rhythm/flow with the songs
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Holy fuck, how have I never heard this before??
Welcome to what could have been...it's amazing yet hurts all at once.
@@demonintheflesh88 I love corpsegrinder but yeah, this would have been so good.
Everything happens for a reason, but I think Barnes would have left anyway. He said it was a relief when Alex said they were going to go in a different direction. I wish he could've stayed in the band, or changed their name post-Barnes because it doesn't feel the same with Corpsegrinder. With Barnes, all 4 of their proper albums sounded completely different from one another. They grew leaps and bounds with their tightness and instrumentation with each release. With, Corpsegrinder, they've kind of gotten stuck in a groove of sameness, in my opinion. Vorpsegrinder is an adequate vocalist, just nothing stands out. I like this version better, definitely, but Barnes vocals after this have suffered tremendously. Oh yea, 'Butchered at Birth' is my favorite CC album 🤘🏻
the issue is that barnes never had good technique. his vocals absolutely could've held up over the years if he didn't smoke so much and actually practiced. he'd also still be in CC if he did
The Bleeding is Cannibal Corpse at their absolute best. Everything with Fisher on vocals is muddy, the vocals all sound like he has a mouth full of oatmeal, and the production is just too atonal, with no variety.
I really only listened to 1 track but even corpsegrinder's "solo" album its just bland cannibal corpse.
@@sweetypuss I don't think Barnes technique was the issue. I think he just didn't take care of his voice.
He was great with SFU Haunted
Great vocals by Chris, but man it’s off tempo. Too fast for him.
six feet under did a live cover of Decency Defiled (a corpsegrinder track) back in 2017 and i thought he did a fine job. he's actually gotten way better with his speed and if you listen to any SFU tracks from the past decade or so, that shows. i actually quite like his vocals still (except on nightmares of the decomposed, idk what happened there)
This demo fukkin Killz!!!! The vokill and writing styles are well evident. And YES The OG logo. I want the butchered at birth shirt, my old one from 93/94 gave up and fell apart. That their BEST and definitive album IMO....Great demo.
You can maybe find that shirt on hells headbangers
This demo can already rival with the final album, so imagine if CREATED TO KILL have been correctly finished in the studio... We've missed something huge. Vile is a good album but it had to be a Chris album...
Unburied horror is disfigured, to kill myself is eaten from inside, and gallery of the obscene is orgasm through torture
This would have been so much better than Vile. IMO
The band makes it sound like what he was doing is trash. This is literally fine. His voice is iconic and the patterns are natural and organic. Corpse grinders voice just isn't that interesting. It has no dynamics or character. Very flat.
Man this raw sound brings a whole new layer to the band, love this
Fishers timing and use of rhythm are more skilled and at some parts more fit more in the music. But I like Barnes his sound and attitude way better. Love this version of what would become Vile. I wonder how Barnes would approach Monolith, one of my favourite CC songs
Agreed corpsegrinder is in the pocket but created to kill us a demo
I don't really get why they went separate ways after such a performance. Must have been something personal.🤷
I Fucking!! Like The Whole Demo🤘
Very unproduced and unthought out compared to the Fisher version. I get that most album demos suffer from that, but like someone else said, the patterns are all off, no cohesion or any hooks or anything. I guess it explains a lot
That might have been the only EEEEEE that sounded good....chris IT SOUNDED GOOD ONE TIME 30 YEARS AGO
Barnes can't keep up with the time signatures, he was just doing what he wanted at the tempo he wanted, it doesn't match in a lot of parts, they we going more technical and needed better vocal patterns, he just couldn't do it
😂😂😂
I'd say yes and no. Some of his timing created better more natural sounding patterns and not so robotic and structured. What would have been cool is if he went back and fixed the parts that didn't sound as cool being unstructured. that would have taken more time and from what i understand Chris was adamant about not changing his vocal patterns. I'm not sure if the rest of the band wanted him to completely change everything or just some spots to clean things up. The fact that they weren't getting along couldn't have helped that situation either.
Thankfully someone talking sense. Took alot of scrolling down the comments to get past the Barnes arse kissers.
George is a much better fit. Tighter and faster vocal performance and I've always enjoyed his style from his days singing in Monstrosity. Barnes vocals aren't a patch on what George did on Vile. I'm glad they gave him the boot.
He was devoured by vermin and mummified in barbed wire before he died and rose agiain, causing bloodshed in the lands by puncture wound massacre, and killed himself. It is a gallery of the obscene
Quelque part, heureusement quecson depart a eu lieu. Jevle retrouve a ecouter presque l'entre-deux de sinister. Diabolical summoning/hate.
Nous sommes en 1995 et la critique leur serait tombé dessus comme "copycat"
Unburried horror pourrait aboir été sur les sessions de "hate".
Cette video géniale explique bien a quel point le death métal commençait a tourner en rond. L'arrivée de corpsegrinder a donné un nouveau souffle a cannibal corpse. Super video !
The Bleeding, Pt. 2
This shit rules. Maybe a few weird parts but fuckin fantastic overall, Barnes' deliveries
George Poopgrinder Fisher is the single most overrated vocalist in metal history. This sounds 1000000000x times better than any of the crap for non-thinkers they released after he joined.
Im a big Chris Barnes fan but the patterns on this are off. They make the riffs in devoured by vermin sound wrong.
It's a demo after all
Exactly
It only sounds ‘wrong’ because you’re used to the Fisher versions.
I agree on that song but I think he does some great work on other songs. Like disfigured? And to kill myself
I agree that George did much better work on these parts
After all this years respect from belgium...
horns up from Ontario Canada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its all Killer Brother !
HAIL SATAN
It was best for CC to split apart with Barnes.
His extremely deep growling shaped the musical style and the first 4 albums are simply cult, but he also had a massive decline in his performance or voice at the end of the 90s.
Today I can't even listen to Barnes anymore because he just sounds terrible.
Fisher has been doing a really good job for almost 30 years and, in my opinion, he is getting more and more brutal.
People should just accept that Chris was unique in his time and so is George.
This sounds so much better than Vile. Wish Chris left/got kicked out _after_ this album.
After always having heard this with Corpsegrinder it’s great to hear them with Barnes. Last good thing Barnes recorded before only doing shit feet under.
I'm gonna start referring to them as “Shit Feet Under” now. Absolutely brilliant.
CHRIS IS THE REAL BUSINESS, WHAT A DIFFERENCE
They made the right choice switching vocalists
he's now Six fEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEt under
I feel like Barnes would have been good up until “Bloodthirst” that’s when the change should have been made.
Idk. Chris' vocals already sound like belching shortly after this with “Haunted” with his new band, Six Feet Under. His vocals, cadences, and flow were already starting to fall apart/off.
Onde consigo as letras desse trabalho?
as someone who isn't a huge fan of fishers vocals, this makes Vile so much more likable to me
sick pfp
Me too man, this is awesome.
Chris didn’t deserve the hate. Though imo, He was replaced at the right time as his vouls were leaning more towards EEEEEEEE!
He was replaced one album too early.
I think the demo sounds better than vile and Chris write his own lyrics to this demo
I think the vocals sound pretty good here
also, thanks or uploading this, I'm team Barnes all the way so this was awesome to hear
That right Alex doesn't know what he was talking about
EEEEEEEEEEEEE
@@MehtaKyaKehta he was just trying to tell the band the key in which he though he EEEE’d best
@@justinchitwood8916 I’m sure alex knows what he’s doing. He’s one of the best bassists of all time after all. It’s just for me, Barnes era CBC was the thing when I was in high school
and stuff, so good memories tend to bias my opinion.
lets be honest chris cared about his lyrics he spent time writing them - at least he had passion you could tell when the rest of the band took over tehy just basicly wrote random shit meaningless drivver a imitation of chris
Not trying to hate but I like vile way more than this
I'm really contemplating getting this on vinyl from Hells Headbangers... The cover looks a bit weird but it's splatter vinyl.
I just got it, it looks sick and sounds sick!!
Barnes will always be the true CC vocalist, corpse grinder isnt a bad vocalist, but he doesnt fit the cannibal corpse style and kind of overpowers the rest of the band with his performance.
Vile is a good album, and I like some songs like pit of zombies, scorge of iron and code of the slasher, but overall his vocals are too much and dont have the dark brutal animalistic sound barnes brought. I also think barnes's high notes get a bit too much hate. Hell, Six Feet under had a hand full of good songs after Haunted, I especially like the cover of War Machine
Finally someone said it, 1000% truth man. I always thought the same, Corpsegrinder just doesnt fit at all and like you said he overpowers the rest of the music.
Barnes Vocals
Corpsegrinder is good, but honestly, I prefer Chris Barnes. This is brutal! 💀🤘🏻💀
The mood of this album is great.. feels like something crawling out of a crypt.. they said he wasn't measuring up to the music, but he fits it like a severed hand in a glove
Chris Barnes vocals are awesome on this album in that the band will never release this I never understood why they never did.
They did release it in 2004 or 2005
LMAO YOURE SILLY
Infinitely better than Vile. Don't get me wrong, I like George and just saw CC in concert two weeks ago. But this album should have been made before Chris and CC parted.
I'm in the same boat. I like these versions of the songs better than what is on Vile. I like George's vocals as well, but not so much for these songs.
I agree too..... CB vocals not only more brutal but his phrasing has more flow and groove to it
@ Fantastic I like this version too, funny you say that about Barnes, I Iheard I think Webester say something opposite about him.
Yup, VERMEEEEEEEEEEEEE much better than Fisher's actual ability to scream 👍
I like this version a lot, yeah, the pattern and some of the timing choices he made are kind of erratic but to me it only adds to the gruesome nature of the music
EEEEEEEEEEEEE
unburied horror is one of ccs besy songs to date
Huh, I've only recently discovered this. I was aware of the fact that Barnes was in the process of doing his vocal work for Vile when the band decided they didn't want him anymore and replaced him with Fisher.
But I didn't know there actually are demos out there with Barnes. Shame that they are unofficial, though. I wish the band would release this in an official capacity, either as a separate EP or bonus material for a Vile reissue.
Listening to this, I definitely prefer this version compared to the official one with Fisher. I, too, think that the Barnes era was the best the band had to offer. That's not to say that CC went south with Fisher, especially since, well, we know what happened to Chris' voice afterwards, despite making some very surprising comeback albums with SFU in somewhat recent memory. But it just isn't as personal, as Chris used to write very graphic and deranged lyrics, and the Fisher era just doesn't rival with that, not to mention there's no substitute to Hammer Smashed Face, I Cum Blood, Stripped, Raped and Strangled, and so on.
CC just got... stale and repetitive afterwards. And, personally, I have to admit I'm not a fan of Fisher's style anyway. His work in Monstrosity is the only time I actually enjoyed listening to him. Otherwise, I prefer vocal styles similar to that of bands such as Demigod, Demilich, Funebrarum, Abhorrence, early Sinister, Immolation, Dead Congregation, Grave Miasma, early Benediction, Baphomet/Banished, etc. Fisher simply doesn't cut it for me stylistically...
I think the lack of exercise are what eventually killed off his voice, which is a shame, since even nowadays I think he could still pull some weights if he took care of his voice, as demonstrated by the surprising comeback albums with SFU. Barnes should have also stayed for one or two more albums with CC, the band was too quick to dismiss him, as this was still a time where he was doing just fine. It was only after Haunted where things went downhill very quickly and very noticeably...
This > Vile, Barnes was the main sound and purpose of Cannibal Corpse. I love Geroges Work but he just doesn't touch Chris's early Raw Talent, Chris Barnes actually made Metal fucking Scary. Nothing after the Barnes Era can compete with his Writing and Passion to create Horror. After he left the Lyrics left, he turned Lyric sheets into Keys. There is levels to the early albums, you can enjoy them and Head bang without the Lyrics (like a poser) or you can use the Keys to Unlock the real Horrors of every word, you then truly had Discovered the Power of Death Metal.
oof the mix sounds rough as helll. not just barnes. i mean i get it, its a demo not an album.
Can anyone tell if Vile was actually re-recorded? Unless I'm a bit deaf (probably) to me the music is the same, only that in Created To Kill sounds muffled due to being not postproduced, properly mixed, EQ'ed, etc... BTW, I love this version more than Vile - just my personal taste. Thanks for sharing!
Exatamente o mesmo timbre e características só muda os vocais
Created to say "EEEE"
COME GET YURR CARRRRR REEEEEEEEEEEEE🦅
Out of time, out of focus and the EEEEEE is ridiculous. Fucking shame, really, because his gutterals actually sounded a lot better than they had done since Eaten Back to Life.
Barnes sounds like Frank Mullen on this demo
Little bit
THIS is Chris Barnes?
That's a good thing
@@smokebanshee9298 yes it's Chris Barnes on voices
Well he kinda sounds more like frank on effigy of the forgotten
Barnes ruled here, this just shows that they had personal issues with him
This is better than vile IMO. still sounds like the real cannibal corpse
Barnes highs always sucked. Still love him though
Good shit! Thanks for re-arranging the tracks.
barnes better than george imo
This version of Puncture Wound Massacre pales in comparison to the one on Vile.
Vile is so much better,notice Chris could t do the greatest metal scream of all time like George?
it would be fun that we replace the voice of the last records by Chris Barnes ones thanks to AI
honestly i think SFU should record a modern-CC cover album. they did a cover of Decency Defiled live back in 2017 and i think chris killed it
I deeply prefer this version
I have no idea why Alex and Paul say that 'these vocal do not fit to music'. Maybe in some fragments.
It had to do with the rhythmic patterns of the lyrics. Barnes wanted to write the lyrics himself, not necessarily taking the rhythm of the music into account. The rest of the band was more keen on streamlining both vocal delivery and riffing in unison.