Brad DL I don't think that's only the second opus. Got the third one on Switch and it's really laggy as soon as there are explosions...I mean, maybe not "really laggy" but you can definitely feel the game slowing down.
*IcKY* Only the arcade games had slowdowns due to too much sprites and animations on screen, the GBA and NeoGeo Pocket Color versions doesn't have slowdowns at all due to those limitations even though they were censored.
David Drayton What did you think of the controls? Is it true that the white controller only goes into only one side port and not the other as spawn wave mentioned?
I just happened to find a copy of the snk collection volume 1 for ps2, and I've been debating whether or not to pick the international version along with one controller (probably white) it looks pretty neat though
Man I am so conflicted. Initially thought this was awesome, with its adorable miniturized MVS cabinet look, customizable sticker options, the authentic Neo Geo CD controller, that even has a white version! But with all these negative feedback which are quite convincing, I might just be happy with just getting these games for the Switch, even if they are horribly time released. I just need to be an adult and be patient lol.
www.amazon.com/Snk-40th-Anniversary-Collection-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B07C5T51PG If you're not 'feeling it' you could always pick this up, they were smart to give options to gamers, and this NeoGeo Mini system seems to just be something they wanted to do to put out and celebrate their 40th anniversary, and give something for SNK fans to collect. For me, I think I'll get both, I like the premise of this little retro 'cabinet' and it will be fun to play against some friends with the SNK controllers.
You will wait a long time, snk seems to relase one game every 6 months so the switch will die and nintendo will release a new console and all 40 titles wont make it to the switch and all the games get re released again on the new gen cycle lol
It wasn't a frame rate issue. It was the 12mhz (68k) processor and graphics chips not being able to keep up with the giant sprites and number of them but X added chips in the cartridge to help speed up the processor and handle more sprites.
@@autodidacticprofessor869 I feel the same as Retro Wolf because I legit didn't know this either. I always thought it was weird when I heard that SNK made Metal Slug X literally just another version of Metal Slug 2, but I didn't know what the major difference was, until now. Learn something new, everyday I guess.
Awkward impressions since you don’t seem to be familiar with SNK hardware or games. Also, these are clearly censored with white blood in Metal Slug and green in Samurai Showdown. :(
I can't work out why they went for the mini arcade with screen. It's too small for any adult to play without the extra controllers. They should have just made a cheaper mini AES (like a snes mini) and allowed the use if original neo geo controllers (the original sticks) as those neo neo CD pads are shite. This is just a collectors trinket to put in a shelf, and at the asking price, no chance
I think the same, why put a small LCD screen? Just to make it look like an arcade cabinet? They should have used the Neogeo home console for the look like Nintendo, Sega and Sony did.
Pre ordered mine with the white controller. I cant wait to have this on my shelf! Notice how SNK fans are complaining about the controllers not having micro switches but dont hear them complaining about playing these games on the Switch. Which doesnt have micro switches on their controllers! Hmm... Selective bitching is always my fav! Lol
The slowdown on metal slug 2 is also present on the arcade version. That's the reason why metal slug x was made, to fix alot of the slowdown issues. So its arcade perfect
I velcrow a power bank battery on the back of this thing and now it's completely cord free. The quality and control of this thing is top notch. New Egg is now selling it for $60..worth every penny!!
I like this a lot. The only but major gripe I have is the limited game selection. The MVS era alone was over 120+ games and I'm only getting 40. I wish they incorporated a way to add games, or allowed for some type of storage media that could be sold later on (I suspect licensing is why all these classic consoles are locked), so that would be a great way to pay for the additional licenses over time and not upfront.
Metal Slug 2 always had slowdown, some re-releases fixed it, but the original version had slowdown whenever a lot of action was present. Try 2 player mode, basically slow motion the whole time.
Looks like they used native (320x224) resolution, just scaled to 720p so it basically looks like the emulators. At least they didn't mess with the original resolution. I prefer it look at least a little blocky for retro sake. :)
That thing is awesome, I was waiting for it's 'release date' to be announced since you first talked about it lol. I think it will go well alongside the 40th anniversary collection that's coming out on switch, and it'll be cool to play against friends with the SNK controllers in a 'mini' system format like this as well. PLETHORA of SNK games, can't go wrong.
Picked this up today and LOVE it. One thing though, I've been reading and hearing about no blood, but I'm seeing blood. At least in Sam Sho V and Kizuna Encounter so far
I hate the Switch ACA versions, the Switch joysticks are just too loose and there's no control + there's serious input lag, I know this is just MAME emulation but the unit's stick is very responsive and I love using the controls on it... Yeah, I'm a masochist lol
If SNK should have dumped the screen and made it into a regular box to connect it to your tv, get it to 100€ in the process, I would have buoyed it in an instant. But to pay 50 extra for that gimmick, as neat as it may be, isn’t worth it imho.
If you actually want to play Neo Geo games properly, there is no better option than just getting a $100 PC, an older AMD card, and a used Sony 27" CRT with component inputs and running the games in GroovyMAME. Perfect emulation at the original resolution and refresh rate. Every commercial option is a joke compared to a setup like that.
So I have a real MVS in my garage SW. That is just the way Metal Slug 2 always ran. Metal Slug X is a re release of 2 with some small differences. But mostly came out to fix the slowdown in that game as this was pre patches
I perfer the look of the Japan only model with the Red, White, and Bleu theme. And no, it's not because I live in the U.S. and am getting all patriotic lol... Come to think of it, almost all English speaking countries use red, white, and bleu for flag colours.... Except Canada, they forgot the bleu which is funny since Quabec is French and forgot the red... What was the video about?..... Oh yeah, can't wait till my NEO•GEO mini gets here.
Slowdown is normal on Metal Slug. Also, the controllers are in the style of SNK's older controllers. I own a NeoGeo Pocket color and the control stick on there is identical.
Looks like the stickers are for that area above the screen. Cool that they made a little cabinet out of it to make it different and a little more collectible but the Switch is already my Neo Geo mini.
I think its cool and all but I can't justify it when I have a Switch. That's my NeoGeo Mini. Will these be around a while? I want to buy an SNES mini then I'll buy this. I already have nearly all these games + more on switch /: NeoGeo was a dream as a kid. I loved the games! They're known for the fighters but I think the system has some of the best shooters, beatem ups, and sports games found anywhere. They just need to add online Multiplayer on all systems and crossplay if they can. Windjammers original and the new Windjammers 2 on switch has me super excited. PS4 and PC players lucky they already got windjammers I always always played that, baseball stars 2 and metal slug at the arcade and pizza place
The slowdown is just the way that game plays and I *think* there may be stickers for the buttons (the game stickers you mentioned are for attaching to the "cabinet")?
I'm down with it. I remeber getting one when I was little. But i also remember I didn't have any games for it because back in the day they were around $100 each. That much I do remember.
I'll pick up at least one of the controllers in black for my PC to show some support to SNK, but not sure not sure I'll pick up the Neo Geo Mini itself unless I find it on a Black Friday deal or something.
Great video!, did you notice the same framerate issues on metal slug while the console was hooked up to the TV? I remember that the original games had some framerate drops, but don't you think that here looks more often?
I'm gonna cancel my pre order I played it at midwest retro and was unimpressed. Now after seeing this video and the other I have watched I dont want it anymore.... looks like a shotty system. And the prototype I played felt like a cheap imitation. Love the channel tho
Switch does NeoGeo better portably. At home I use my joystick. Now if only they would let these games go online Multiplayer on all systems + crossplay.
Yeah, this feels like a total cash grab. There are no microswitches in any of the controllers, the built in controls are too small for extended play, and they didn't even bother to get the color right on the international version of this. I'd buy an neo geo x over this any day if they weren't so expensive.
@@florriblerobot Well they're just rom dumps here and you can get the games individually on a lot of hardware these days. You're still better off buying the cds or cartridges as a collector for authenticity. Or just own this just to own it I guess.
The slow down happens in all emulation of the hardware even the original hardware. Older ports had some worse than others but at best metal slug will slow down. They need to rewrite the code for modern systems to get rid of it. Love metal slug! Sadly the last NEW Metal Slug was made and released for the DS(they might of made a mobile version unsure) which was awesome cuz of the 2 screen action! I think it was MS7.
The emulator was literally grabbed from the Internet, it was made by a homebrew dev who took portions of MAME and FBA sourcecode and combined them into one. This was back when MAME was licensed as noncommercial. It is quite possible it was a license break to license this then as GPL, and for SNK and the Chinese no-name contractor they probably hired to take this tojust take that and then sell this overpriced trinklet comes off as extremely scummy and corporate welfare-ish. I really feel you RUclipsrs have to significantly step up your game and become a lot more critical on these ventures, these companies are literally doing no inhouse production at all and are just taking open source emulators and then putting $100+ pricetags on what is essentially cheap SoC hardware. Worse is that the authors themselves behind these emulators either don't get compensated for them at all, or that the licenses of the emulators are being paid lip service. In any case, it really reveals that there is no shame anymore in this games industry in terms of how they go about and take stuff that isn't theirs and then proceed to sell it so carelessly. If you want to find out the sourcecode repo that the no-name contractor just dumped on Github, here it is - github.com/xugamezhouyuhua/neogeominiemu Again, I reiterate - this was made for PSP homebrew way back in the day, SNK did not lift a finger on any of this work, and it is very likely it was not even legal for him to license this as GPL given the non-commercial licenses of the MAME versions the code was based on, never mind for SNK and its Chinese affiliates to just sell it like this. They did this one time before with Neo Geo X Gold or whatever it was called when they were straight up taking emulators like FBA and throwing it on hardware even though that emulator has a non-commercial license attached to it. I guess to this 'industry', the only things that should be respected are their licenses and their 'IP', and that of budding homebrew authors can just be paid lip service. Why are you guys so excited at these companies just re-selling you homebrew emulators like this? This is literally cash grab-ism, nothing more.
Frankly if SNK (or its modern incarnation) want to do so after so many people have played these games for free for decades now, who can begrudge them that? If SNK can still make money off these games today somehow, off the licenses or doing these kind of deals then that's great (and I'm all for emulation so I'm not saying this in a "pro Nintendo" kind of way regarding the recent emulation argument!). If it was just a Chinese company doing this without SNK being involved in any way though, well that is different.
To be fair, this is a fork of a five-year-old version NJEMU, which is GPL licensed; if there was a license break, it happened years before this was developed, and these developers are compliant with the GPL. That being said, why do you think NJEMU uses MAME/FBA code? It definitely uses MAME roms, but that doesn't mean the code is based on the MAME NeoGeo driver. Also, while MAME as a whole was licensed as noncommercial, before the license normalization in 2016, each driver was under a different license, most commonly 3-clause BSD.
freekboy658 If you look at the code, you can find several files that are named identically to older MAME versions of equivalent code. It is quite obviously rewritten MAME code. In some cases I'd argue not much is even rewritten - maybe copyright text taken out and some function names renamed. Anyway, I highly suspect the original coder had no idea that years after the fact, SNK would take his code and start to sell it, so likely the GPL relicensing did not really matter at the time since all of it was kinda underground since it was meant for homebrew PSPs. Still, shame on SNK and the Chinese no-name contractor that cobble this together for them for not doing due diligence. This will be the second time now they have taken emulator sources that are not exactly legal for them to sell (the first time being Final Burn Alpha on the Neo Geo Gold X). Unfortunately, since I don't see the original author pursuing this, they will likely get away with it, and they don't really care anyway as long as they get their money. Typical now for this industry unfortunately. I wish it were different, but am not surprised.
andy7666 They are almost certain to have outsourced this to some random Chinese/Taiwanese/Hong Kong contractor, who probably cobbled this together. 0% chance of this having been developed inhouse. These contractors don't care and literally go for the lowest-hanging fruit - download anything from the Internet that gets the job done regardless of license complications or authors, throw it together with roms you downloaded from the Internet, give it back to the client, say 'job done', collect your money, move on to the next project.
What do you mean, why are they excited? They got the product free, and these kinds of things are essentially promotional or marketing stuff. This isn't a review, its an unboxing and impressions video, he is under no obligation to be that critical.of the product. He probably doesn't even know of its history either.
Now I just want someone to produce a kit that you can convert the innards of this Neo Geo Mini into a hand held unit without the knob, but with a Dpad.
I can swear I saw that this thing had a rechargeable battery in it which is one of the reason I pre-ordered it. But after watching more reviews and finding it out it doesn't, when connected to the tv the picture looks crappy and unless you buy the controllers it is very uncomfortable to play thins thing for more than 15 minutes, I am just going to have to pass on this. I just canceled my pre-order. I am telling you I can swear it was either gamestops page or amazons page that showed that it had a internal battery cause I was with my friend when I saw the pre-orders live and told him about how it says you can play it on the go. This system cost way too much for what it is. They should have just done like the snes and nes classic did cause what is the point of having the screen if you still have to plug it into the wall or computer to power it up.
To me the price isn't bad. I'm old enough to remember when the Neo Geo system was released with my dad staring wide eyed at the sticker price of just the Ninja Combat game of $199.99 which didn't even include the system lol! So I guess yeah I do not mind the price of this cute little toy with 40 games to play with .
I love your channel so much Jon. I love the essentially daily content. without you I really would be lost. Hope to donate and support differently better.
One thing you didn't mention, it looks like is indeed censored games like Metal Slug and Samurai Showdown blood appears in white and other colors instead of red, meanwhile the Japanese version blood color is red, this was a huge censoring issue back in the day of the arcades, but also it grab my attention the bounciness of Mai Shiranui tatas wasn't removed, this was also an issue in the arcades from Japan to the west back in the day just a little bit like today hehe. I hope someone finds a way to access the test mode so we can change all those censoring s and other settings.
Dunno if anyone already said this but I'm thinking the stickers may be to put above the screen like a cabinets marque ? Appeared to look like the exact size.
The real neo geo pads that came with the CD system had a "click" when you moved it in different directions, I think i much prefer that to this new silent type.
I always hated the stupid nob things in joysticks, it would always mess up my combo's and special moves. Never needed them to tell "which direction you're pressing", I always preferred the joystick with no bumps in them.
I am a big kof fan and it's too bad that they did not include the entire kof series, also they should have made arcade style joy stick instead of a mini arcade box.
As one of the people who got a neo geo x, ive been curious how this mini arcade will do. Hopefully better than the neo geo x. I am curious if you can add roms to this or not.
13:19 This is normal slowdown Trust me, the arcade game also slow down at that stage. this is perfect emulation. I guess you are not old school SNK fan because you will noticed this if you were one. I am playing arcade games since 6 and this emulation is downright perfect
I believe the two stickers are to decorate the mini arcade cab. Is it true you can’t use just the cab controls when you attach the unit to the tv and have to buy the control pad to play?
I’m not surprised it doesnt come with a brick, they probably just assume most users will plug it into their computer to charge it. I can see Nintendo doing something like that too tbh.
It’s odd having no battery eliminates mobility. Small controls force you to get the controller and small screen is going force it to the tv. If they took out what doesn’t work and focused on making a true mini this could have come in at 59 with a controller.
the game slowdown is the same as the AES basically they retain everything, its has nothing gotta do with the NeoGeo Mini hardware man. The emulation is close to perfect.
So a stranger sends _you specifically_ a leak about this a few months back and it makes rounds around the internet, then the company sends you a review one and seems not to be upset that you leaked their stuff.... I dunno, it sounds less like it got leaked and more like they did some _really_ clever marketing!
Why didn’t they use the MVS versions, with options to turn on red blood, instead of white and green censored? Is there any chance turning the language to Japanese will change the region? Making it uncensored?
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I got mine yesterday I'm very satisfied with it it's so much fun I love all the games on there I played most of the day I love it
Metal slug 2 has severe slow down all the time. When X came out, they fixed the slow-down.
Yeah the slow down was to do with how Metal Slug 2 was coded back in the day.
Brad DL I don't think that's only the second opus. Got the third one on Switch and it's really laggy as soon as there are explosions...I mean, maybe not "really laggy" but you can definitely feel the game slowing down.
all metal slugs do have slow down but Metal Slug 2 Specifically had HORRIBLE slowdown thats why they made Metal Slug X
Yeah its got to do with the code. Not the hardware.
*IcKY* Only the arcade games had slowdowns due to too much sprites and animations on screen, the GBA and NeoGeo Pocket Color versions doesn't have slowdowns at all due to those limitations even though they were censored.
Metal Slug 2 has always had issues with slow down, which is one of the reasons why they made Metal Slug X.
I got the Japan version a few weeks ago and I'm loving it. Honestly made me pre-order the SNK collection for the Switch. Great review!
I also pre-ordered the SNK collection for the switch, but because it contains games that I enjoyed as a child.
David Drayton What did you think of the controls? Is it true that the white controller only goes into only one side port and not the other as spawn wave mentioned?
I just happened to find a copy of the snk collection volume 1 for ps2, and I've been debating whether or not to pick the international version along with one controller (probably white) it looks pretty neat though
The controllers sold out in minutes via Amazon so I never got to order them. I did get them recently when they went up for the international version.
David Drayton Thanks for replying.
Man I am so conflicted. Initially thought this was awesome, with its adorable miniturized MVS cabinet look, customizable sticker options, the authentic Neo Geo CD controller, that even has a white version! But with all these negative feedback which are quite convincing, I might just be happy with just getting these games for the Switch, even if they are horribly time released. I just need to be an adult and be patient lol.
www.amazon.com/Snk-40th-Anniversary-Collection-Nintendo-Switch/dp/B07C5T51PG
If you're not 'feeling it' you could always pick this up, they were smart to give options to gamers, and this NeoGeo Mini system seems to just be something they wanted to do to put out and celebrate their 40th anniversary, and give something for SNK fans to collect.
For me, I think I'll get both, I like the premise of this little retro 'cabinet' and it will be fun to play against some friends with the SNK controllers.
You will wait a long time, snk seems to relase one game every 6 months so the switch will die and nintendo will release a new console and all 40 titles wont make it to the switch and all the games get re released again on the new gen cycle lol
looks pretty sweet.. it's actually quite rare for this type of device to have perfect 1 to 1 pixel mapping to an lcd screen.
Metal Slug 2 is notorious for slowdown you need to play Metal Slug X, it's the same game as Metal Slug 2 but they fixed the frame rate.
Zaku Guriin I didn't even know lol
It wasn't a frame rate issue. It was the 12mhz (68k) processor and graphics chips not being able to keep up with the giant sprites and number of them but X added chips in the cartridge to help speed up the processor and handle more sprites.
@@autodidacticprofessor869
I feel the same as Retro Wolf because I legit didn't know this either.
I always thought it was weird when I heard that SNK made Metal Slug X literally just another version of Metal Slug 2, but I didn't know what the major difference was, until now.
Learn something new, everyday I guess.
Awkward impressions since you don’t seem to be familiar with SNK hardware or games. Also, these are clearly censored with white blood in Metal Slug and green in Samurai Showdown. :(
US bios obviously.
White blood... aka SWEAT.
There was an option menu option on metal slug 2 (12:34), and I guarantee all the games have it to turn red blood on.
Need an in depth review though.
hes a fucking nintendo fan boy
probably wasnt even old enough to wipe his ass when neo geo was super hot in arcades in 90'
Wait for a mod.
I can't work out why they went for the mini arcade with screen. It's too small for any adult to play without the extra controllers. They should have just made a cheaper mini AES (like a snes mini) and allowed the use if original neo geo controllers (the original sticks) as those neo neo CD pads are shite. This is just a collectors trinket to put in a shelf, and at the asking price, no chance
There is something wrong with the display as well if you output from the mini arcade to a TV. Picture quality is terrible
I think the same, why put a small LCD screen? Just to make it look like an arcade cabinet? They should have used the Neogeo home console for the look like Nintendo, Sega and Sony did.
Pre ordered mine with the white controller. I cant wait to have this on my shelf! Notice how SNK fans are complaining about the controllers not having micro switches but dont hear them complaining about playing these games on the Switch. Which doesnt have micro switches on their controllers! Hmm... Selective bitching is always my fav! Lol
If SNK ever get into the home console space again I’ll be on board for sure. I was lucky enough to have one and it was freakin’ awesome.
I do think it’s cool, but idk if I will pick it up. Still a cool thing
Man, throwing shade at the Atgames system when its right behind you. You're a bold man Spawn
Gonna get one for my job. Couple of rounds when it's slow should get me thru the day faster lol
The slowdown on metal slug 2 is also present on the arcade version. That's the reason why metal slug x was made, to fix alot of the slowdown issues. So its arcade perfect
I velcrow a power bank battery on the back of this thing and now it's completely cord free. The quality and control of this thing is top notch. New Egg is now selling it for $60..worth every penny!!
I like this a lot. The only but major gripe I have is the limited game selection. The MVS era alone was over 120+ games and I'm only getting 40. I wish they incorporated a way to add games, or allowed for some type of storage media that could be sold later on (I suspect licensing is why all these classic consoles are locked), so that would be a great way to pay for the additional licenses over time and not upfront.
Metal Slug 2 always had slowdown, some re-releases fixed it, but the original version had slowdown whenever a lot of action was present. Try 2 player mode, basically slow motion the whole time.
Looks like they used native (320x224) resolution, just scaled to 720p so it basically looks like the emulators. At least they didn't mess with the original resolution. I prefer it look at least a little blocky for retro sake. :)
That thing is awesome, I was waiting for it's 'release date' to be announced since you first talked about it lol. I think it will go well alongside the 40th anniversary collection that's coming out on switch, and it'll be cool to play against friends with the SNK controllers in a 'mini' system format like this as well. PLETHORA of SNK games, can't go wrong.
Neo Geo sponsored unboxing while wearing a Super Nintendo tee.... Legendary stuff lol
That’s just how metal slug 2 ran. The others run fine.
those are my favorite games growing up.......for 40 games that better then super nes classic..
but all the games are almost part 1-3 series ...
The collector in me wants this
This would be so worth it if it actually had a built-in battery, and it to be bundled with the cable for a TV or whatever it was.
That box is gorgeous. Couldn't be any more 90's if they tried.
Picked this up today and LOVE it. One thing though, I've been reading and hearing about no blood, but I'm seeing blood. At least in Sam Sho V and Kizuna Encounter so far
Basically something cool to have as a collectible but seems better to invest in Neo Geo games on Switch,PC,etc
I hate the Switch ACA versions, the Switch joysticks are just too loose and there's no control + there's serious input lag, I know this is just MAME emulation but the unit's stick is very responsive and I love using the controls on it... Yeah, I'm a masochist lol
Can't believe I'm just finding out about this! Great video! Definitely going to buy!
If SNK should have dumped the screen and made it into a regular box to connect it to your tv, get it to 100€ in the process, I would have buoyed it in an instant. But to pay 50 extra for that gimmick, as neat as it may be, isn’t worth it imho.
If you actually want to play Neo Geo games properly, there is no better option than just getting a $100 PC, an older AMD card, and a used Sony 27" CRT with component inputs and running the games in GroovyMAME. Perfect emulation at the original resolution and refresh rate. Every commercial option is a joke compared to a setup like that.
You can connect it to tv using a mini hdmi cable, doesn't come with one though..
Spawn, how do you connect your boxes to the wall? Velcro?
literally my fav youtuber ever, funny af and who tells you to dislike if you didn't like their vids? the absolute best
Metal slug 2 got a remaster version bc of that slow down they called it metal slug x
So I have a real MVS in my garage SW. That is just the way Metal Slug 2 always ran. Metal Slug X is a re release of 2 with some small differences. But mostly came out to fix the slowdown in that game as this was pre patches
I perfer the look of the Japan only model with the Red, White, and Bleu theme. And no, it's not because I live in the U.S. and am getting all patriotic lol... Come to think of it, almost all English speaking countries use red, white, and bleu for flag colours.... Except Canada, they forgot the bleu which is funny since Quabec is French and forgot the red... What was the video about?..... Oh yeah, can't wait till my NEO•GEO mini gets here.
Slowdown is normal on Metal Slug. Also, the controllers are in the style of SNK's older controllers. I own a NeoGeo Pocket color and the control stick on there is identical.
Wow,decent length for the controller wire, my nes mini was barely 3 feet.
Looks like the stickers are for that area above the screen. Cool that they made a little cabinet out of it to make it different and a little more collectible but the Switch is already my Neo Geo mini.
The lack of a battery is a real bummer. But you can easily make your device mobile by using a power bank.
Nice unboxing video Jon(SW). The Neo Geo Mini is looking really good, I will probably get it more so as a collector's item.
Man, if I liked more of those games I'd love to have a mini arcade machine like that for old arcade games.
Didn't you think the HDMI output was really fuzzy? Not like using RetroPI. I was sure you'd pick up on that.
That controller looks just like a Neo Geo CD controller.
No shit sherlock
The guy in the video didn't seem to know that.
Yeah but they changed the AbCD layout and there are no microswitches... Probs gonna mod mine at some point, I mean it's nice to use but a bummer
I use a fight stick with ufb in it. Much better.
I think its cool and all but I can't justify it when I have a Switch. That's my NeoGeo Mini. Will these be around a while? I want to buy an SNES mini then I'll buy this. I already have nearly all these games + more on switch /:
NeoGeo was a dream as a kid. I loved the games! They're known for the fighters but I think the system has some of the best shooters, beatem ups, and sports games found anywhere.
They just need to add online Multiplayer on all systems and crossplay if they can. Windjammers original and the new Windjammers 2 on switch has me super excited. PS4 and PC players lucky they already got windjammers I always always played that, baseball stars 2 and metal slug at the arcade and pizza place
the SNK NEO GEO Mini is an impressive little system that packs a massive punch!! Cant wait to get it!!
The slowdown is just the way that game plays and I *think* there may be stickers for the buttons (the game stickers you mentioned are for attaching to the "cabinet")?
I need that NEO GEO mini arcade in my life!!
I'm pleased that the neogeo X arcade stick works on the mini. Awesome.
SERIOUSLY??? If that is correct, you have made my night!
@@nocallnoshow6878 see the vid link. At 11.21
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Metal Slug ALWAYS stutters. It's just all of the craziness on screen. I think this is actually a pretty solid mini console for an arcade experience
I'm down with it.
I remeber getting one when I was little. But i also remember I didn't have any games for it because back in the day they were around $100 each.
That much I do remember.
I like those boxes hanging on the wall that looks great that's the same way I have my setup
As usual, it looks like SNK has forgotten about the Canadian market AGAIN! Still no link to pre-order here in Canada. :/
I can't wait to get this for christmas
Hahahah the way you mocked them jokingly like was hilarious.
It's unique enough to warrant a purchase. SNK forever
I'll pick up at least one of the controllers in black for my PC to show some support to SNK, but not sure not sure I'll pick up the Neo Geo Mini itself unless I find it on a Black Friday deal or something.
Great video!, did you notice the same framerate issues on metal slug while the console was hooked up to the TV? I remember that the original games had some framerate drops, but don't you think that here looks more often?
I'm gonna cancel my pre order
I played it at midwest retro and was unimpressed. Now after seeing this video and the other I have watched I dont want it anymore.... looks like a shotty system. And the prototype I played felt like a cheap imitation. Love the channel tho
Ron Hertzberg it’s not great but as a collector I gotta have it. You can spend a fortune trying to get all these games individually
The fact that here is no battery in the unit is why I decided not to buy it.
Switch does NeoGeo better portably. At home I use my joystick.
Now if only they would let these games go online Multiplayer on all systems + crossplay.
Yeah, this feels like a total cash grab. There are no microswitches in any of the controllers, the built in controls are too small for extended play, and they didn't even bother to get the color right on the international version of this. I'd buy an neo geo x over this any day if they weren't so expensive.
@@florriblerobot Well they're just rom dumps here and you can get the games individually on a lot of hardware these days. You're still better off buying the cds or cartridges as a collector for authenticity. Or just own this just to own it I guess.
Since you have the international version they might not include a brick because a lot of different regions use different plugs and voltages.
The metal slug 2 slowdown is the game, not the hardware, the game suffered from some serious slow downs
The slow down happens in all emulation of the hardware even the original hardware. Older ports had some worse than others but at best metal slug will slow down. They need to rewrite the code for modern systems to get rid of it.
Love metal slug!
Sadly the last NEW Metal Slug was made and released for the DS(they might of made a mobile version unsure) which was awesome cuz of the 2 screen action! I think it was MS7.
The emulator was literally grabbed from the Internet, it was made by a homebrew dev who took portions of MAME and FBA sourcecode and combined them into one. This was back when MAME was licensed as noncommercial. It is quite possible it was a license break to license this then as GPL, and for SNK and the Chinese no-name contractor they probably hired to take this tojust take that and then sell this overpriced trinklet comes off as extremely scummy and corporate welfare-ish. I really feel you RUclipsrs have to significantly step up your game and become a lot more critical on these ventures, these companies are literally doing no inhouse production at all and are just taking open source emulators and then putting $100+ pricetags on what is essentially cheap SoC hardware. Worse is that the authors themselves behind these emulators either don't get compensated for them at all, or that the licenses of the emulators are being paid lip service. In any case, it really reveals that there is no shame anymore in this games industry in terms of how they go about and take stuff that isn't theirs and then proceed to sell it so carelessly.
If you want to find out the sourcecode repo that the no-name contractor just dumped on Github, here it is -
github.com/xugamezhouyuhua/neogeominiemu
Again, I reiterate - this was made for PSP homebrew way back in the day, SNK did not lift a finger on any of this work, and it is very likely it was not even legal for him to license this as GPL given the non-commercial licenses of the MAME versions the code was based on, never mind for SNK and its Chinese affiliates to just sell it like this. They did this one time before with Neo Geo X Gold or whatever it was called when they were straight up taking emulators like FBA and throwing it on hardware even though that emulator has a non-commercial license attached to it. I guess to this 'industry', the only things that should be respected are their licenses and their 'IP', and that of budding homebrew authors can just be paid lip service.
Why are you guys so excited at these companies just re-selling you homebrew emulators like this? This is literally cash grab-ism, nothing more.
Frankly if SNK (or its modern incarnation) want to do so after so many people have played these games for free for decades now, who can begrudge them that? If SNK can still make money off these games today somehow, off the licenses or doing these kind of deals then that's great (and I'm all for emulation so I'm not saying this in a "pro Nintendo" kind of way regarding the recent emulation argument!). If it was just a Chinese company doing this without SNK being involved in any way though, well that is different.
To be fair, this is a fork of a five-year-old version NJEMU, which is GPL licensed; if there was a license break, it happened years before this was developed, and these developers are compliant with the GPL. That being said, why do you think NJEMU uses MAME/FBA code? It definitely uses MAME roms, but that doesn't mean the code is based on the MAME NeoGeo driver. Also, while MAME as a whole was licensed as noncommercial, before the license normalization in 2016, each driver was under a different license, most commonly 3-clause BSD.
freekboy658 If you look at the code, you can find several files that are named identically to older MAME versions of equivalent code. It is quite obviously rewritten MAME code. In some cases I'd argue not much is even rewritten - maybe copyright text taken out and some function names renamed. Anyway, I highly suspect the original coder had no idea that years after the fact, SNK would take his code and start to sell it, so likely the GPL relicensing did not really matter at the time since all of it was kinda underground since it was meant for homebrew PSPs. Still, shame on SNK and the Chinese no-name contractor that cobble this together for them for not doing due diligence. This will be the second time now they have taken emulator sources that are not exactly legal for them to sell (the first time being Final Burn Alpha on the Neo Geo Gold X). Unfortunately, since I don't see the original author pursuing this, they will likely get away with it, and they don't really care anyway as long as they get their money. Typical now for this industry unfortunately. I wish it were different, but am not surprised.
andy7666 They are almost certain to have outsourced this to some random Chinese/Taiwanese/Hong Kong contractor, who probably cobbled this together. 0% chance of this having been developed inhouse. These contractors don't care and literally go for the lowest-hanging fruit - download anything from the Internet that gets the job done regardless of license complications or authors, throw it together with roms you downloaded from the Internet, give it back to the client, say 'job done', collect your money, move on to the next project.
What do you mean, why are they excited? They got the product free, and these kinds of things are essentially promotional or marketing stuff. This isn't a review, its an unboxing and impressions video, he is under no obligation to be that critical.of the product. He probably doesn't even know of its history either.
Now I just want someone to produce a kit that you can convert the innards of this Neo Geo Mini into a hand held unit without the knob, but with a Dpad.
I can swear I saw that this thing had a rechargeable battery in it which is one of the reason I pre-ordered it. But after watching more reviews and finding it out it doesn't, when connected to the tv the picture looks crappy and unless you buy the controllers it is very uncomfortable to play thins thing for more than 15 minutes, I am just going to have to pass on this. I just canceled my pre-order. I am telling you I can swear it was either gamestops page or amazons page that showed that it had a internal battery cause I was with my friend when I saw the pre-orders live and told him about how it says you can play it on the go.
This system cost way too much for what it is. They should have just done like the snes and nes classic did cause what is the point of having the screen if you still have to plug it into the wall or computer to power it up.
Almost $200 to get the system, both controllers and a hdmi is just plain ridiculous.
Spawnwave how do you mount your boxes on the wall?
Got it on preorder. Wonder if Hackchi or a similar program will be able to root it to play extra or different games. That'd be pretty neat.
To me the price isn't bad. I'm old enough to remember when the Neo Geo system was released with my dad staring wide eyed at the sticker price of just the Ninja Combat game of $199.99 which didn't even include the system lol! So I guess yeah I do not mind the price of this cute little toy with 40 games to play with .
the original neo geo arcade machines had the same slow down. i spent days playing them all. full experience in a mini package. hahahahaha
Wish SNK would make that make that white controller for the AES/CD system.
Love the Neo Geo mini. Is there a way to add more games to it yet???
Is this guy for real? Has he never played metal slug? There is always slowdown
I love your channel so much Jon. I love the essentially daily content. without you I really would be lost. Hope to donate and support differently better.
One thing you didn't mention, it looks like is indeed censored games like Metal Slug and Samurai Showdown blood appears in white and other colors instead of red, meanwhile the Japanese version blood color is red, this was a huge censoring issue back in the day of the arcades, but also it grab my attention the bounciness of Mai Shiranui tatas wasn't removed, this was also an issue in the arcades from Japan to the west back in the day just a little bit like today hehe. I hope someone finds a way to access the test mode so we can change all those censoring s and other settings.
Dunno if anyone already said this but I'm thinking the stickers may be to put above the screen like a cabinets marque ? Appeared to look like the exact size.
You seem to be wide awake for a guy who post like 5 videos a day
ah, the old hexagon arcade sticks. I really miss those...
It comes with a skin for your arcade control area on your unit where you complained about around the grey buttons yea lol
They should have made a Neo Geo mini. With the authentic look, controllers and ability to play on a HD tv.
The real neo geo pads that came with the CD system had a "click" when you moved it in different directions, I think i much prefer that to this new silent type.
I always hated the stupid nob things in joysticks, it would always mess up my combo's and special moves. Never needed them to tell "which direction you're pressing", I always preferred the joystick with no bumps in them.
Need my scan lines for that authentic arcade experience.
I'm pretty sure it has a CRT filter.
Not having Nam '75 is a deal breaker. The original launch titles should've been on this.
I think the slow down on Metal Slug is a normal thing...it happens on the Hamster version too on the Switch.
I am a big kof fan and it's too bad that they did not include the entire kof series, also they should have made arcade style joy stick instead of a mini arcade box.
As one of the people who got a neo geo x, ive been curious how this mini arcade will do. Hopefully better than the neo geo x. I am curious if you can add roms to this or not.
same
Once they hack it like the nes mini
Be patient. They'll get it, eventually.
13:19 This is normal slowdown Trust me, the arcade game also slow down at that stage. this is perfect emulation. I guess you are not old school SNK fan because you will noticed this if you were one. I am playing arcade games since 6 and this emulation is downright perfect
You should definitely do a test to see if you can usb-c to usb I kinda want one for a raspberry pi.
I'm not sure about this, but I think Metal Slug 2 is supposed to slow down like that... I mean, I've heard that it does that in real hardware so...
I believe the two stickers are to decorate the mini arcade cab. Is it true you can’t use just the cab controls when you attach the unit to the tv and have to buy the control pad to play?
Looks great, a must buy, cheers spawn.
Thats how Metal Slug 2 performs. You need to run it on an emu then you will see. Nothing to do with the device.
Metal slug 2 is infamous for having tons of slowdown. Thats why it was remade as Metal slug X. it was a poor choice to show off the system.
I’m not surprised it doesnt come with a brick, they probably just assume most users will plug it into their computer to charge it. I can see Nintendo doing something like that too tbh.
I ordered mine, I love snk, great review too, snk forever ❤
It’s odd having no battery eliminates mobility. Small controls force you to get the controller and small screen is going force it to the tv. If they took out what doesn’t work and focused on making a true mini this could have come in at 59 with a controller.
Imo KOF >SF, SNK never was as popular as Capcom titles but they were always more unique
the game slowdown is the same as the AES basically they retain everything, its has nothing gotta do with the NeoGeo Mini hardware man. The emulation is close to perfect.
So a stranger sends _you specifically_ a leak about this a few months back and it makes rounds around the internet, then the company sends you a review one and seems not to be upset that you leaked their stuff....
I dunno, it sounds less like it got leaked and more like they did some _really_ clever marketing!
Why didn’t they use the MVS versions, with options to turn on red blood, instead of white and green censored? Is there any chance turning the language to Japanese will change the region? Making it uncensored?
All the systems i could never afford are coming back