The Karakhanids: First Turkic Muslim Empire

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  • Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
  • This documentary explores the pivotal role of the Kara-Khanid Empire in shaping Central Asian and Islamic history. From the dominance of Turkic dynasties across the Eurasian Steppe to the rise of the Kara-Khanids, we trace the evolution of Turkic political power and cultural influence.
    The narrative begins with an overview of major Turkic empires, including the Xiongnu, Göktürks, Uyghurs, and Kyrgyz, highlighting the unique supremacy of the Göktürks.
    We then examine the factors leading to the fragmentation of Turkic political unity and the subsequent emergence of diverse, independent Turkic states adopting various religious and cultural identities.
    Central to our story is the formation of the Kara-Khanid Khaganate in 840 CE, born from the alliance of Karluk tribes. We delve into the significance of the Kara-Khanids' conversion to Islam, marking a crucial turning point in the integration of Turkic peoples into the broader Islamic world.
    The documentary covers key aspects of Kara-Khanid history, including:
    - Origins and tribal composition
    - Territorial conquests and expansion
    - Economic systems and trade networks
    - Cultural and religious transformations
    - Long-lasting legacy and influence on subsequent Turkic-Islamic states
    Through this exploration, we aim to illuminate the Kara-Khanids' critical role as a bridge between the nomadic Turkic traditions of the steppe and the settled Islamic civilization of the Middle East and Central Asia.
    Chapters:
    00:00 Enter Karakhanid Turks
    03:09 Mysterious Origins
    09:13 A personal message from the Khan
    10:46 The Karluks' Rise to Power
    21:40 Imperial History
    33:23 Becoming Muslim
    45:00 Downfall and Legacy of the Karakhanids
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Комментарии • 201

  • @KhansDen
    @KhansDen  5 дней назад +18

    This is the first time in over two years where I narrated the entire video by myself. A bit anxious, to honest, but I hope it was to your satisfaction. That being said, the AI program that I used in the past is ElevenLabs. They offer fantastic voices that sound authentic, so if you are interested to get such a voiceover for your own projects or just for fun consider signing up by using this affiliate link (my very first, yay): elevenlabs.io/?from=partnerevans2202
    The Karakhanids are in any case our key to understanding the changes within Turkic peoples from antiquity to the middle ages. They offer fascinating insights into the way Turkic and steppe peoples functioned back in the day. From here on out though, we will focus on the medieval period both with regards to the Turkic peoples and to the peoples of the steppe in general.

    • @yichengyi
      @yichengyi 5 дней назад

      Can you read Turkic runes?

    • @turktarihi266
      @turktarihi266 5 дней назад

      Wow... I use ElevenLabs too. Their voices are much realistic.

    • @Dr.Consciousness
      @Dr.Consciousness 4 дня назад

      Finally ur back :)

    • @realtalk6195
      @realtalk6195 День назад

      Well, your title is very wrong. Volga-Bulgaria was the first Turkic Muslim empire. The Kara-Khanids were at best second.

    • @Dr.Consciousness
      @Dr.Consciousness День назад

      @@realtalk6195 Volga Bulgaria was a slavic ruled empire brother. But ur right in that they had a significant turkic population.

  • @jivanselbi3657
    @jivanselbi3657 5 дней назад +12

    I appreciate your arduous effort of preparing this informative video on Turkic history.. thankyou

  • @miguelcamacho4595
    @miguelcamacho4595 5 дней назад +6

    Love your content. Greetings from Mexico 🇲🇽 🤝🏼

  • @Austin62581
    @Austin62581 5 дней назад +7

    You should do the Avar Khaganate!

  • @turktarihi266
    @turktarihi266 5 дней назад +5

    The wait was worth it. Hope you do a video on Seljuks too. And i can't remember if you have ever made a documentry on Avars, make a video on em too, Keep it up, Kardeş!

  • @Bjorn_Algiz
    @Bjorn_Algiz 5 дней назад +4

    Your narrations are deeply appreciated brother! Love the research and deep analysis ❤

  • @tikkunolam112
    @tikkunolam112 4 дня назад +3

    A very commendable and thorough analysis ... excellent work

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  3 дня назад +2

      Thank you kindly!

  • @nenenindonu
    @nenenindonu 5 дней назад +26

    Karakhanids were pivotal in the Turkification of the Tarim Basin & Transoxiana, they produced the legendary Mahmud Kashgari who not only partook in the Karakhanid conquest of Khotan but also dropped some hard verses afterwards, poor Sakas :D

    • @user-fl5mq9kp7g
      @user-fl5mq9kp7g 5 дней назад +2

      Someone writes the history of the Turks in the Persian language. This is very strange. Weren’t the Turks the rulers? Why do they use the Persian language when they were the rulers?

    • @tursuntongra6706
      @tursuntongra6706 4 дня назад +1

      Wrong. Transoxiana/Mawarannahr was only turkified after the Mongol conquests and mass slaughter of region's inhabitants. Even cities as far East as Balasagun were bilingual according to Kashgari. And Balasagun is not even in Transoxiana. While the Tarim Basin with the exception of Khotan was basically turkified by the time Karakhanids emerged.

    • @nenenindonu
      @nenenindonu 4 дня назад +4

      @@tursuntongra6706 Turks becoming an overwhelming majority there is indeed attributed to Turkic tribes brought by the Mongol war machine that depopulated much of the former Persian speaking lands but Karakhanids still massively contributed to the Turkification prior to those events

    • @tursuntongra6706
      @tursuntongra6706 4 дня назад

      @@nenenindonu I concur, however your first statement is nevertheless erroneous. Tarim Basin was essentially largely turkified before the establishment of Karakhanid Khaganate or the state of Qocho. While Transoxiana having switched from East Iranic dialects, would remain dominantly Persian speaking for a very long time. Turkification would continue there well into the 20th century, and one could argue that it continues to this very day.

    • @skeltal975
      @skeltal975 4 дня назад +1

      @@user-fl5mq9kp7g turkic languages werent written only spoken thus turkic people used persian

  • @nenenindonu
    @nenenindonu 5 дней назад +19

    Karakhanids laid the basis of the Sufi-Turanic synthesis dominant in Turkic old towns of Bukhara, Samarkand, Türkistan, Konya, Termez, Kokand, Khiva, Shahrisabz, which are some of the spiritual epicenters and timeless gems of Turkic-Islamic civilization

    • @tulparkultigintengrikut8440
      @tulparkultigintengrikut8440 5 дней назад +1

      sen her yerdesin aga. türkleri savunuyorsun. sagol olsun sana. asosyal medya varmi sende?

    • @Ghjkoplokkp
      @Ghjkoplokkp 4 дня назад

      😂​@@tulparkultigintengrikut8440

    • @MK-br3gl
      @MK-br3gl 3 дня назад +1

      We are not muslims

  • @user-fl5mq9kp7g
    @user-fl5mq9kp7g 2 дня назад +1

    ❤❤Keep going, brother ❤❤❤❤

  • @muka74
    @muka74 4 дня назад +1

    Very interesting!

  • @Andy_Babb
    @Andy_Babb 4 дня назад +2

    This is fantastic. Love that you’re using your own voice for narration - it really gives the video that little bit of extra depth. Well done good sir.

    • @terrencewalker8219
      @terrencewalker8219 18 часов назад +1

      Much better than listening to an A.I. narration.

    • @Andy_Babb
      @Andy_Babb 10 часов назад

      @@terrencewalker8219 couldn’t agree more man.

  • @insafahmed6164
    @insafahmed6164 2 дня назад +1

    बहुत सुन्दर प्रस्तुति

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 4 дня назад +2

    It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage episode about (karakhaned Empire) karluck stip tribe's at 850 AD ......thank you 🙏 [khan Den]channel for sharing.

  • @321123580
    @321123580 5 дней назад +14

    Karakhanids is the foundation of the modern uygurs and uzbeks

    • @tursuntongra6706
      @tursuntongra6706 5 дней назад +4

      Yeah, that is why Uzbeks have no written or folk memory of Karakhanids. And all historical info in Turkic tongue comes from authors who spring from Uyghur lands - Jamal Qarshi, Haydar Dughlat, as well as various historiographies and bibliographies in Chagatai Uyghur, and of course modern oral folk tales and legends.

    • @321123580
      @321123580 5 дней назад +2

      @@tursuntongra6706 бро, караханиды там правили, узбеки как и уйгуры говорят том же диалекте

    • @tursuntongra6706
      @tursuntongra6706 5 дней назад +4

      @@321123580 Ну и что? В Индии правили различные тюркские династии почти 1000 лет. Северные индийцы наверное стали тюрками? тюркизация мавераннахра произошла позже после эпохи караханидов и не связана с ними. По Кашгари, в мавераннахре превалировали не-тюркские языки. тюркизация южного кыргызстана и узбекистана это пост-монгольская эпоха, 13th century +

    • @321123580
      @321123580 5 дней назад +2

      @@tursuntongra6706 брат расслабься у уйгуров нет эксклюзивных прав на караханидов, я сам уйгур

    • @user-fl5mq9kp7g
      @user-fl5mq9kp7g 5 дней назад

      ​@@321123580Do you have blood from the Scythian tribes because this land is their land?

  • @cngreen2950
    @cngreen2950 5 дней назад +3

    Teşekkürler 🇹🇷🌹🌷❤️

  • @kaanerdem2822
    @kaanerdem2822 3 дня назад +2

    Hey khans den, will you make a video about ottoman chinese relations? I heard the ottomans had the largest chinese porcelaine pottery collection in the world. So i think they had a very good relation with eachother

  • @siyacer
    @siyacer 4 дня назад

    My ancestor :)

  • @cemasikoglu9597
    @cemasikoglu9597 5 дней назад +3

    We all pray for her

  • @Reader_curiosity
    @Reader_curiosity 4 дня назад +1

    A great episode about the Qarakhanid Empire.
    First: It appears from the context of the medieval historical sources that the origin of the Qarakhanids is from the Qarluq tribes and they have a connection with the Yabgu-Karluq confederation, but the historical sources are contradictory. Some sources mention the origin of the Yaghma tribes and some other sources mention the origin of the Qarluq tribes.
    According to the book The Boundaries of the World, the Iligma tribes controlled most of the lands south of the Tarim Basin and expanded into the lands of other Turkish tribes.
    Therefore, some ancient historians, such as Ibn Khaldun, did not specify the origin of the Turkish tribe from which the kings of the Khanate state descended.
    Even the Qarakhanid prince Mahmoud Al-Kashgari did not specify the origin of the Turkish tribe of the Qarakhanid dynasty, while he was the one who mentioned the origin of the ruling Seljuk tribe.
    In my opinion, this is perhaps because the Qarakhan dynasty descends from a group of Turkic tribes, most of which settled in Central Asia and mixed with each other since the Gokturk era by the Karluks, Yagmas, Chigils, Tushis and others.
    Indeed, ancient historical sources mention mixing between Turkish tribes in Central Asia
    This stability is not new to the Turks, as the Chinese traveler who visited Western Gokturk in the seventh century AD mentioned that the Turks are settled and practice agriculture on the Chu River.
    Of course, Turkish migrations to Transoxiana go back to the Xiongnu era at the very least, through the Huns era and up to the Gokturk era, as mentioned in ancient Chinese records and medieval historical sources.
    Of course, these historical facts do not please Aryan extremists who insist on claims that the Turks landed via spacecraft to Transoxiana after the expansions of the Chinggisid Empire.
    Unfortunately, the Islamist ideologues in Turkey were promoting the lie of the soft Arab conquest of Transoxiana during the period of the Islamic Awakening, and after historians refuted the Islamists’ claims and the historians made it clear that the Arab conquests were extremely violent, like the Chinggisian expansions, then the Islamists turned to adopting the thesis of the Aryan extremists that the Arab conquests were It is directed against the Iranians only and not against the Turks, as if this justification would help reduce the ugliness of what happened, and the ideological Islamists were supposed to apologize to the public for their previous lies and falsification of history.
    While the medieval historical sources consider Transoxiana part of Greater Turkestan, Al-Kashgari mentioned that some of the cities of Transoxiana are purely Turkish and some are based on ethnic and linguistic duality.
    Therefore, it is not surprising that the Arian extremists and ideological Islamists agreed on the same anti-Turkish ideas.
    Second: The Battle of Talas was just a small and ineffective border battle and was not even mentioned by Islamic historical sources such as Al-Tabari, Ibn Miskawayh and others. It occurred because the Turks and Sogdians asked for help from the Chinese Emperor, and the clash took place with the Abbasid army in Talas and ended with the victory of the Abbasid army after the Qarluq soldiers turned into the army. Abbasi.
    The influence of the Tang Chinese Empire did not end in the western lands of Central Asia, and the Turks and Sogdians continued to pay allegiance to the Emperor of China.
    The radical transformation took place after the An Lushan Revolt (755-765), which led to great devastation within China and the permanent loss of the western regions of Central Asia.
    I do not know why some Turkish historians ignore this pivotal event in the Middle Ages.
    Of course, this event contributed to increasing the external power of the Kingdom of Tibet and enabled it to expand externally, as well as contributing to the independence of the small Turkic states in Central Asia.
    It is a historical irony that the Uyghur Khaganate played a major role in providing military assistance to the Tang Dynasty to eliminate An Lushan in exchange for paying Chinese tribute to the Uyghur Khaganate and obtaining a set of privileges.
    Third: It is not possible to pass through the Samanid state quickly. Regardless of the origin of the Samanid dynasty, and the fact that some ancient historians such as Rashid al-Din al-Hamdani mentioned that they were of Oghuz Turkmen origin, I accept what is common among most of the scientific community about the Iranian origin, but when talking about the nature of the Samanid state, I will We find that Turkish influence was very large in the Samanid state, and the Samanid used Central Asian Turks in the army and state positions, as most of the leaders and soldiers of the Samanid army were Turks, and most of the governors of the regions were Turks.
    Therefore, the historian Ibn Miskawayh mentioned that the Samanid state was predominantly Turkish.
    Fourth: It appears from medieval historical sources that the Turkish conversion to Islam in Central Asia occurred gradually and slowly, and we do not have an accurate history about its true beginnings, but it may have begun as early as the middle century AD in the Samanid era and reached its peak in the Qarakhanid era, where the great mass conversion of Central Asian Turks took place. .
    But most Turks in Eurasia remained non-Muslims until the era of the Chinggisid Empire.
    The Qarakhanids tried to spread Islam among the Turks using military force, until the agreement between the Qarakhanids and Sultan Ghaznavid stipulated that the Qarakhanids would complete their conquests against the non-Muslim Turks.
    We should mention the Qarakhanid history objectively, whether in favor of them or against them, so that the Turkish peoples in the future avoid these negatives. Although the Qarakhanids tolerated the Nestorian Church, they were exclusionary against the Buddhists, as Mahmoud Al-Kashgari mentioned that they destroyed the Uighur temples.
    We may find a political justification according to the context of ancient times, because the Qarakhanids tried to unite the Turks politically by imposing religion on them, but this is not enough and does not justify intolerance.
    Fifth: The Qarakhanids played a pivotal role in the land Silk Road trade, and contemporary historical studies have concluded that the thesis that claims the collapse of the land Silk Road after the collapse of the Tang dynasty and its return to work in the Chinggisid Empire is incorrect.
    Historical studies in Chinese records have found that the Qarakhanid dynasty sent dozens of regular trade missions to the Chinese Song dynasty during about more than a century and a half, starting from the tenth century AD. It is even mentioned that in some Qarakhanid trade missions, they were led by a Turkish merchant woman. The Qarakhanid merchant woman negotiated with The Song Emperor and Chinese officials at the Chinese court.
    Even when the land Silk Road from the Gansu region was threatened by Tangut attacks, the Karakhanids chose another land route through the territory of the Kingdom of Tibet.
    Unfortunately, the issue of historical relations between the Turks and Tibet is not discussed much.
    Sixth: The Qarakhanids created a new Turkish civilization in Central Asia. They built new cities, supported trade, built schools for education, and a new architectural style appeared in their era, etc. Therefore, the most prominent Islamic monuments in Transoxiana and Central Asia before the Chingizid era still date back to the Qarakhanid era.
    They contributed to laying the foundations of Turkish Islamic culture, as they translated the Qur’an into the Turkish language, and the first Sufi movements influenced by Turkish culture appeared in their time. The first books of Turkish literature, influenced by Islamic culture, and so on, appeared in their time.
    History books mentioned that the Qarakhanids forced some of the Nomadic Qarluq tribes to settle in the countryside and practice agriculture.
    Seventh: Qarakhanid rule lasted four centuries in three stages:
    The first stage: 250 years ago and was completely independent.
    The second stage: 50 years, during which its eastern part was completely independent, while its western part belonged to the Seljuk Empire.
    The third stage: It lasted about 70 years and was subject to the Qara Khitai state.
    Although ancient historians consider that the Qarakhanid state fell after the attack of the Qara Khitai, who allied with the Qarluq tribes in 1141, the Qarakhanid dynasties continued in the main centers of Central Asia according to the same pattern as the Qarakhanid state. Therefore, contemporary historians consider the Qarakhanid state to have fallen in 1212 after the Khwarezmshahs overthrew the Qarakhanid rulers in their main capitals in Central Asia.

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 3 дня назад +2

      chinese don't know nothing about Karakhanids!
      you banning Uyghur history.
      Karakhanid are Uyghurs

    • @Reader_curiosity
      @Reader_curiosity 3 дня назад +1

      I am not Chinese.
      This is just a nickname in English and Chinese.
      Next time, I ask you to discuss ideas and avoid attacking people without proof.

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 3 дня назад +2

      @@Reader_curiosity Shut yo mouth, I see your main photo is written on chinese hieroglyphics

    • @Reader_curiosity
      @Reader_curiosity 3 дня назад +1

      First: I advise you to understand the approach to pseudonyms and to discuss with me respectfully.
      Pseudonyms do not specify the nationality of commentators.
      This strange nickname is to make my personal identity more anonymous.
      Second: If I changed the nickname to the Sanskrit alphabet, would you call me Indian?
      Third: The ancient Chinese sources are the ones that mentioned that the Karakhanids were Uighurs, while the other Turkish, Persian, and Arab sources did not report that.
      Fourth: Not every Chinese person has a relationship with the Chinese government, as there are Chinese human rights activists.

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 3 дня назад +2

      @@Reader_curiosity Also why people think Karakhanids are not Uyghurs when Islam and even Karakhanid first king was born in Kashgar!
      Even Uyghur language is Karakhanid, Karakhanid is just dynasty of Karluk and Uyghur (Yagma, Chigil, Tokuz Oghuz) tribes.
      even Karluk themselves are Uyghurs genetic part!
      As like Normandy is not French government just because, they don't called themselves French...
      As like Irish are not Gaelic because they are Irish, what a stupid stereotypes do people have....
      Karakhanids are Uyghur and that's the point

  • @Reader_curiosity
    @Reader_curiosity 3 дня назад +1

    What do you think of this historical hypothesis about the origin of the Qarakhanids, based on archaeological evidence:
    Some scholars mark the beginning of the history of the Qarakhanids as starting with the year 840, when a new confederation in Semirechye emerged from the Qarluq, Chigil, Yaghma and other Turkic tribes after the fall of the Uyghur Khaganate.
    Due to these multi-tribal components of the new con- federation, the origin of the Qarakhanid ruling elite is considered to be debata- ble.
    The most recent theory based on numismatic evidence has been suggest- ed by Boris Kochnev, who claimed that the Qarakhanid origin related to the Igdish (Idgish) clan of the Chigil tribe that was one of the components of the Qarluq confederation.

  • @realtalk6195
    @realtalk6195 День назад

    The title is wrong. Volga-Bulgaria was the first Turkic Muslim empire. The Kara-Khanids were at best second.

  • @Ghjkoplokkp
    @Ghjkoplokkp 3 дня назад +1

    Hello Sun people. Güneş halkına ezendeş selam olsun!

  • @rustam_hamd
    @rustam_hamd 3 дня назад

    Are there any descendants of the Chighil tribe here? Please write me

  • @halt2180
    @halt2180 5 дней назад

    Goguryeo fell around 668. Map in 1:30 is wrong i suppose

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  5 дней назад +1

      It is, I didn't have time to update the entire world. Most of the maps from 800 to 1200 I made in the past few days. Thanks for the heads up, though. Appreciated.

    • @halt2180
      @halt2180 5 дней назад

      @@KhansDen still good work. Thanks for giving care about Turk history ❤

  • @AlifBe-oj2wy
    @AlifBe-oj2wy 3 дня назад +2

    Qarluqlar bu Uzbeklardir.
    Birinchi islomni qabul qilgan.
    Talas savashida Chinga qarshi muslulmonlar bilan birga yenggan.Ismoil Somoniy ham turk islom tarihchilari oguzlardan ekanin yozishgan

  • @ou6775
    @ou6775 День назад

    You should study what the Prophet said of the Turks.

  • @emirkaraguelle9600
    @emirkaraguelle9600 4 дня назад

    You mean Zhetysu (Jetisu, Yedisu)

  • @qouby
    @qouby 5 дней назад +1

    A small correction, the first Turkic Muslim state is the Volga Bulgar Khanate, not the Qarakhanids.

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  4 дня назад +3

      That was mentioned in the video. However, I specifically put "empire" into the title to stress that the Karakhanids were the first imperial dynasty to become Muslim. The Volga Bulgars were very significant, too, but more a confederation and less a centralized empire.

    • @qouby
      @qouby 4 дня назад

      @@KhansDen I would have reservations on calling the Qarakhanid as a qaghanate/imperium, like the Ghaznavids they were strong but not a qaghanate. In fact, the Volga Bulgars might have more to do with the title if the Hun royal connection claims are true. Another objection I would have would be to the "Göktürks" who actually never existed other than the modern historiography. There was a Türk Qaghanate in the sources but not a Göktürk one.

  • @alibak5537
    @alibak5537 5 дней назад +4

    Satuk Bugra adopted Sunni Islam to take Samanid assistance in order to overthrow his own uncle. Also Tughrul adopted Sunni Islam to take recognition and legitimacy from Sunni Abbasid Caliph in Baghdad in order to rule Iran and Mesopotamia. Again İtil Bulgars converted to Sunni Islam to take Abbasid assistance against their overlords Jewish Khazars. All examples shows that Turkic rulers adopted Islam in order to have more political power.

  • @annoyingfly8140
    @annoyingfly8140 4 дня назад +1

    There is no concrete evidence that Balasagun was founded by Sogdians. Moreover, according to "The Tarikh-i-Jahan gusha" by the author of 'Ala' ud-DIn Ata Maliki-Juwaini - Balasagun was founded by the Uighur kagan Boku Khan.

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 3 дня назад +1

      Stop dividing Uyghurs and Karluk!
      Karluk was tribe of Uyghur khanate!
      and they are modern Uyghurs have Karluk and ancient Uyghur hybrid blood.
      They are not different, they were one family

  • @vedatuzunlu8869
    @vedatuzunlu8869 4 дня назад +1

    Not Karahannidis ,the real name is ". Karahanlı"

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 3 дня назад +1

      Han is not Turkic title.
      True name is Kara Hakan!
      Hakani is language what Uyghurs speak now, is actually Karakhanid language.
      Hakani means king

    • @vedatuzunlu8869
      @vedatuzunlu8869 3 дня назад

      @@kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat thankyou

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  3 дня назад

      Kara Khan is the widely recognized transliteration of Kara Han. If you make a video about Kara Khan in English, you better use the term that most people would understand. I really don't think this is so difficult to grasp.

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 3 дня назад +1

      @@KhansDen Not Khan but Hakan.
      Khan is Mongol title

  • @odilbekb-sarkaev1052
    @odilbekb-sarkaev1052 5 дней назад +1

    Khaqanids.

  • @shazadsheralikhan2302
    @shazadsheralikhan2302 3 дня назад

    Kara Kahanids were predominately KARLUK TURK TRIBES

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 3 дня назад +2

      And predominantly Uyghurs now...
      Cause Kashgar capital of Karakhanid and the king of Karakhanid was born by local people of Chigil.Yagma his grandsons are also Uyghurs

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  3 дня назад +2

      That was mentioned like a dozen times in the video.

  • @gerasimos2112
    @gerasimos2112 3 дня назад +1

    You still dream empires😂

  • @MarmaraKazm-ld7im
    @MarmaraKazm-ld7im 5 дней назад +3

    My brave and honourable ancestors,rest in peace

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 3 дня назад +2

      Sir, they were Uyghurs...
      are your ancestors Uyghurs?
      Do they speak Uyghur Karakhanid language?

  • @alibak5537
    @alibak5537 5 дней назад

    May Tengri take her to Uçmağ

  • @tursuntongra6706
    @tursuntongra6706 5 дней назад +4

    Qirghiz Khanatate borders wrong. Qocho borders wrong. And most importantly Qarakhanid border evolution wrong. and what on earth is a Kimek 'Khaganate'? Karakhanids started as a polity between Kashgar and lake Issyk-Kol and from there on expanded westwards. 26:00 So who are the "True Successors" of the Orkhon Khaganates? Because frankly I do not see a "better" more "fitting" successor than the state of Qocho. If you think the titles are not there, go check again. Everything is there, titles Qaghan/Han as well as Orkhon style long epithet names of rulers. If you think there is no mention of "Türk" by some Arab or Persian, go check Qocho own written record - alongside term 'Uyghur', term Türk often is used to refer to language and people of the realm. But the real meat is that in Qocho there are actual attempts to retell events engraved in stone monuments of Mongolia on paper. Which means they passed down folk memories of past events concerning Khaganates period. On top of that, some of the descendants of the Türk El ruling strata appear much later as prominent members of the Qocho elite, one such example is the family of Tonyukuk himself. Now show me a high medieval Turkic polity where you have all of that? And I didn't even get to the language. Qocho Uyghur is basically the closest High Middle Ages equivalent of Orkhon Turkic, Qarakhanid coming second, and all together with the earlier Orkhon Türk and Orkhon Uyghur forming the Old Turkic language.

    • @user-fl5mq9kp7g
      @user-fl5mq9kp7g 5 дней назад

      So why do they use the Persian language? Do they not have a language?

  • @tursuntongra6706
    @tursuntongra6706 5 дней назад +1

    To state that Qarakhanids were 'Qarluq' is to greatly oversimplify the complex feudal paradigm of the region. There were the Yaghma and Chigils as well. Basically, turcologists do not agree on which group actually founded the Khaganate or where the actual power rested. To overcomplicate the matter, according to contemporary Chinese Song dynasty records, the Karakhanids were just another branch of post-imperial Uyghurs, just like Qocho and Gansu Uyghurs. On top of that, unlike Arabo-Persian Islamic literature - Karakhanid literature and later the Turki/Chagatai Uyghur literature does not give Qarluqs a more privileged position within the realm. Essentially, the Karakhanid elite referred to themselves as Türks, and if one reads Kashgari attentively, it becomes clear that to him Qarluqs, Oghuz, Uyghurs, Qipchaqs, Qirghiz and others are not Türks. Türks according to him are his people, that is Turkic people who lived in what is today south-western Xinjiang to the shores of lake Issyk-Kol in Kyrgyzstan. All in all, many groups are at play - Qarluqs, Yaghma (Toquz Oghuz), Chigils, Uyghurs and even potentially the Ashina clan.

    • @HasanTemur1
      @HasanTemur1 5 дней назад +2

      Your information about (Kashagri only considered his people as Turks and others aren't), this is actually false, i know Arabic very well, he directly refers to Qirghiz, Uyghur, Oghuz, Yemek, Kipchak....etc tribes as being Turks.
      You should focus more on the contexts when he distinguishes Turks and other tribes. He isn't making other tribes out of being Turks, but referring to the dialects.....

    • @tursuntongra6706
      @tursuntongra6706 5 дней назад

      @@HasanTemur1 Kashgari separates Türk languages from Türk people. It becomes evident when he continuously makes comparative examples in the following manner - the Turks call this this, The Oghuz say this, the Qipchaqs this, etc. This of course means that in his view while other groups speak a 'Türk' language, they are fundamentally not "Türks".

    • @HasanTemur1
      @HasanTemur1 5 дней назад

      @@tursuntongra6706
      Not actually true, in such cases, Kashagri means that this word is in the Oghuz dialect and like this for [other] Turks. He is saying that Oghuz use this word while other Turks use the other.
      anyway you can see clearly he, when mentioning Oghuz, he says (they are a tirbe of Turks), also when he mentioned Qirghiz, Kipchak.....etc
      If anyone knows Arabic literature very well, he could understand from the context that he isn't trying to say that Oghuzes aren't Turks. but referring to dialects of Oghuzes is different from Other Turks...... and so on

    • @tursuntongra6706
      @tursuntongra6706 5 дней назад

      ​@@HasanTemur1 Honestly, I don't know what you are reading. These are some random quotes from the compendium: "I have travelled throughout their cities and steppes, and have learned their dialects and their rhymes; those of the Turks, the Turkman-Oyuz, the Cigil, the Yayma, and the Qirqiz." Another one - "The Oyuz, Qifdaq and Suvarin change every initial mim to ba’. For example, the Turks say: MAN BARDIM man bardim meaning “I went”; these groups say: BAN BARDUM". And yes he does say Oghuz Turks in other instances, because he fails to explicitly distinguish terms Turk and Turkic. This is established from context.

    • @HasanTemur1
      @HasanTemur1 4 дня назад +1

      @@tursuntongra6706
      You should learn Arabic, then you will recognize why he write these sentences. I have read his book in the original Arabic text, the way of his writing is the same as how did Arabs usd to write their literature books.

  • @logic7742
    @logic7742 5 дней назад +4

    Alhamdulillah for the blessing of Islam. Alhamdulillah for the guidance of God and making us humble before him to accept the truth even though the final prophet, Muhammad (pbuh), came from the Arabs. Alhamdulillah for taking us out of the darkness of disbelief, polytheism, forced kidnapped marriages, oppression, arrogance and pride into the light of imaan (faith) and humbleness to submit to God and follow his guidance for our success in this life and the next.
    The only reason Iblees refused to prostrate to Adam, the first prophet, was that he was better than Adam, superior to him in his race having been created from Fire and Adam from Clay.
    The test of mankind with the final Prophet Muhammad being from the Arabs, a nation with no past glory or civilisation, is yet the same… will man be arrogant and egotistical and refuse to accept the truth just because it is from some camel riding desert Arabs… or will they be led astray by the glamour, glitters, and delusion of this world for their temporary enjoyment with their pride and arrogance? May God guide us all… ameen. Indeed, there is great wisdom as to why God chose the final prophet to be from amongst the Arabs instead of the Romans or Persians or Chinese or Turks or any other race with great history and civilisation… alas, it has always been the test of overcoming one’s ego, pride… arrogance… the test from the very beginning…

    • @BIGBROTHERSADVICE
      @BIGBROTHERSADVICE 2 дня назад

      You’re a silly heathen and your future is slavery. Why? Because even tho u try to act humble, I can tell by ur comment u are very miseducated. The Romans raped boys so how were they more noble than the Arabs? The Arabs come from prophet Ishmael the son of prophet Abraham pbuh and his Egyptian mother Hajir. The children of Adam are all “black” people with wooly hair. All else are considered heathens. Ur not from our family. U pale faced boys are iblees/ satan’s kids and god made u pale so we can see u coming from a distance looking like a jive turkey! Even the name Adam means black in Arabic and Arabic along with the other shemitic languages are African languages. So don’t look down at us thinking somehow u better than us. Rather it’s the opposite. So do what Allah commanded u and ur dad Satan from the very beginning when He formed Adam and declared that he is his best creation and bow down !!

    • @BIGBROTHERSADVICE
      @BIGBROTHERSADVICE 2 дня назад

      U PALE in comparison to us u PALE faced school boy! Now bow down to ur superiors!

  • @AlifBe-oj2wy
    @AlifBe-oj2wy 3 дня назад +1

    Qarluks __Ozbek turks
    Qarahanids

  • @Ecstaticgoat
    @Ecstaticgoat 2 дня назад

    So these were the black khans? Okay

  • @junaidahsan783
    @junaidahsan783 5 дней назад +1

    Last turkic state who follow Tengrism religion

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  5 дней назад +6

      To the contrary, other contemporary Turkic states like that of the Kimek, the Kipchak-Cuman, the Oghuz and various groups in East Asia converted later.

    • @junaidahsan783
      @junaidahsan783 5 дней назад

      @@KhansDen Make a video on last turkic empire who follow Tengrism religion

  • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
    @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 3 дня назад +1

    I don't understand why people are so dumb?
    How Karakhanid are not Uyghurs if Karakhanids originally came from Region Kashgar from local Karluk king dynasty called Yagma, Chigil actually are Modern Uyghurs from South Region!
    Karakhanid fought not against Uyghurs who were Qocho, they fought against themselves because Satuk Bughra Khan accepted Islam and spread Islam to whole Xinjiang with battle.
    cause nobody wanted to become Muslim, Khotanese, Qocho kingdom were mostly Buddhists that time.
    Uyghurs carry around 60-70% of Karluk blood of Karakhanid dynasty, they write in Arabic Script as Karakhanids, modern Uyghurs language is actually Remnant of Karakhanid Moghulistan Chagatai Karluk language.

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  3 дня назад +1

      Source for your claims, especially the DNA study?

    • @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat
      @kasyakyoubfgamindikisborat 3 дня назад +1

      @@KhansDen Any sources that Karakhanid are not Uyghurs?
      Why Uyghurs speak Karluk Karakhanid language, why they live in a cities as like Karakhanid, why they are Muslims, why they write on Arabic scipt as Karakhanids did?
      Just because Karakhanid is just Dynasty, it's consistent of Karluk Uyghur Tribes...
      and nothing more.
      Karakhanid are not a nation but just a dynasty

  • @momojafar9385
    @momojafar9385 4 дня назад +2

    now they atheist

  • @yinsucui135
    @yinsucui135 5 дней назад +2

    fun fact, the Karakhanids were viewing themselves as a Chinese.

    • @denizucar3947
      @denizucar3947 5 дней назад +6

      Nope, some of them called themselves Tamgaç/Tabgaç Khan (King of China) because they ruled over the areas which were formerly ruled by the Tang empire.

    • @yinsucui135
      @yinsucui135 5 дней назад +1

      @@denizucar3947 of course yes. They were using Chinese trappings including coins, titles and seals. The country’s nickname was “little China” and Middle Chinese was one of the administrative language. By the way the succeeding Western Liao dynasty was also Chinese

    • @denizucar3947
      @denizucar3947 5 дней назад

      @@yinsucui135 The people who spread Covid-19 were Chinese, too.

    • @denizucar3947
      @denizucar3947 5 дней назад +4

      Might be that they took over some chinese influence, but they identified themselves as turkic for sure 😂. Karakhanids self designastion was Türk hakanlığı. They were proud of their lineage to the legendary Turkic ancestor Alp Er Tonga. A member of the ruling dynasty, Mahmut Al Kashgari, wrote the first Turkic dictionary.
      And the Liao empire was Khitan Mongols.
      Freedom for East Turkestan! Freedom for Uyghurs!

    • @yinsucui135
      @yinsucui135 5 дней назад +1

      @@denizucar3947 East turkestan doesn’t exist and yes, both Liao and Qarakhanids identified themselves as Chinese. Seethe and cope the Sinophobic hater 😘