The Ancient Turkic-Roman Alliance | Göktürks & Byzantium (568-630)

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  • @KhansDen
    @KhansDen  5 месяцев назад +22

    Recently, I decided to make a full-fledged video of last month's podcast episodes about the same topic. Hope you enjoy.

    • @vaneriklucasan8365
      @vaneriklucasan8365 5 месяцев назад

      An exquisitely crafted video you have made here @KhansDen .... Kudos! :)

    • @charlesbulut9748
      @charlesbulut9748 5 месяцев назад +1

      I’m not sure why you referring Eastern Roman Empire as “Greeks”? Eastern Roman Empire were Roman and Greeks were their citizen just like many other ethnicities. This is just western history trying to implement “ Byzantium” was Greek nationality but it was not. That’s why Greeks today “trying” to claim Istanbul as their own.
      In reality Romans referred Greeks as citizens even slaves. We need to use right term for Eastern Roman Empire as Roman. Greek language famous and used widely yes but never Greek nation ruled it.

  • @BodriyDyadka
    @BodriyDyadka 5 месяцев назад +26

    "Слава Богу, в землях Арабов, Персов, Византийцев и Русов последнее слово принадлежит тюркам" (персидский историк Раванди IX век)

  • @sozak79
    @sozak79 5 месяцев назад +18

    Absolutely brilliant work…. Well done once again Khan’s Den

  • @ΒΥΖΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ
    @ΒΥΖΑΝΤΙΝΟΣ 5 месяцев назад +9

    Συγχαρητήρια για την δουλειά σου ,είμαι Έλληνας,

  • @zydrate5098
    @zydrate5098 4 месяца назад +4

    Please stop referring to the Eastern Romans as "Greeks" and the Roman Empire as "Bzyantinum", you know better than this.

    • @DarkKhan04
      @DarkKhan04 2 месяца назад

      Isn't the specific name of the Eastern Roman Empire Byzantine?

    • @brainblox5629
      @brainblox5629 2 месяца назад

      It was mainly dominated by Greek culture though. The rest was hellenized Armenians.

  • @JangoChained
    @JangoChained 5 месяцев назад +10

    What you're doing is so important. Love it. Thanks for existing.

  • @mitkodimitrov8396
    @mitkodimitrov8396 5 месяцев назад +9

    Why Dulo clan hate so much Ashina?Bulgarians and hungarians,follow Dulo and have bad history with turks,since the beginning,what is so different,between those steppes clans.Onogurs,kutrigurs,sabirs and so on,are bulgar tribes,wich follow Dulo

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  5 месяцев назад +3

      Very good question. I suggest that the divide between Oghuric (Dulo, Bulgars, Huns) on the one side and Oghuz and Altaic (Göktürks, Uyghurs, later Oghuz Turks) on the other was caused by a variety of factors, including but notwithstanding language, religious affiliations (Shamanism vs. Tengrism) and cultural preferences. When East meets West, there is always trouble. Even within the Göktürk Khaganate, we can see that all revolts took place in the western realm and included Oghuric peoples.
      But that's speculation on my part. It's difficult to give a proper answer when so many sources are missing.

    • @brainblox5629
      @brainblox5629 2 месяца назад

      Hungarians are not directly descended from the Huns. They rode with the Turks among the Hunnic horde but Hungary was founded by an independent Magyar horde hundreds of years after the Huns dissolution that advanced further into Europe under Khazar support. Since Khazars were Oghurs, there were also Oghur tribes riding with the Magyars, who gave Hungary its European name. Hungary is from the name Onoghur. They named the country after the Turkic allies of the Magyars who were a minority.

  • @joeshmoe8345
    @joeshmoe8345 5 месяцев назад +10

    Love this, thanks a bunch for sharing this with us Big Dog!

  • @maverikmiller6746
    @maverikmiller6746 5 месяцев назад +7

    I am really glad that there are people delving deeper into our Kaganates. Thank you very much.

  • @RedWolf75
    @RedWolf75 5 месяцев назад +13

    This is cooo snd intersting that the Turks and Romajs were initially allies.

  • @almazchati4178
    @almazchati4178 5 месяцев назад +5

    I had heard about this alliance from a German historian of Byzantinum history of around 600 which covered early Islamic period as well. If that is the case the first Turkish/Islam contacts must have happened in the Caucasus. He says Sassanies were really weak, and it would have fallen to the Turks if Arabs had not acted earlier. It looks like they made an
    alliance with another nomadic people over the Romans. I think I read in Al-Biruni's India that Semerkant was newly established around 600 and it had a huge library of Latin and Greek books.
    Probably Islamization started much earlier than the year 750, because Bukhara became Muslim early on, and Sodgians were part of GokTurks campaigns in the east. Probably
    this hypothesis puts the origin of the Turks squarely around Volga/Ural region.
    It looks like there is a lot of material available for investigation.

  • @BeatrizArienti-s2p
    @BeatrizArienti-s2p 5 месяцев назад +13

    Gracias por traer la historia a nuestras vidas. Desde Argentina Beatriz ❤

  • @jivanselbi3657
    @jivanselbi3657 5 месяцев назад +4

    once again thanks for this informative video, look forward to watch the next eopisode, we hardly know anything abıut Türk-shahi rule, probably they were in India/Pakistan & Afganistan

  • @korkufilmleriscarymovies2283
    @korkufilmleriscarymovies2283 5 месяцев назад +2

    I believe in that even roman empire there were alot of Turks assimilated inside them .We can see alot of their traces in Türkiye even before 1071 .they just got assimilated between those Romans

  • @Ersen_abiniz
    @Ersen_abiniz 5 месяцев назад +9

    l am very proud of my anchestors because l have Y DNA haplogrup Q, elite rulers of Xiongnu. Also l have %3 devils cave peoples genome.

    • @Goldenskies__
      @Goldenskies__ 5 месяцев назад +2

      And You look 100% Iranian. Congrats.

    • @astrodas1910
      @astrodas1910 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@Goldenskies__ He looks nothing like Iranian. Iranians are brown skinned to begin with. And if you mean the northern Iran who has light skin, they're Turk.

    • @Ersen_abiniz
      @Ersen_abiniz 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@astrodas1910 don't argue with this greek or srmenians brother. Greeks say themself indo-european but they have very fark skin and curly haair like north afrikans with Y DNA Haplogrup E1V-13 🤣

    • @Ersen_abiniz
      @Ersen_abiniz 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Goldenskies__ l wonder what is your face shape ot skin colour , cultural enlargetment's son

  • @oguzmen5451
    @oguzmen5451 5 месяцев назад +4

    Great video - a topic of interest and something I see as a subtle turning point is Tonyukuk's role in convincing the Khan on straying away from Buddhism. If the alternate had happened and Göktürks had become settled (like the Uygur Khaganate) - world history could've been much different.

    • @Reader_curiosity
      @Reader_curiosity 5 месяцев назад +1

      There is not a long time lag between the death of Tonyukuk and the emergence of the Uighur Khaganate.
      Tonyukuk died in 716 and the Uyghur Khaganate was established in 744.
      The other thing is that Buddhism was an approved religion in the first Goktürk, and there are temples and Buddhist texts translated into Turkish, and it is not a new religion for the Turks.
      The Gokturk era is an era full of political and tribal events and entities, and it does not represent a single case where there are Western Gokturks and Turkic tribal federations that enjoy great independence, etc.
      For example, Chinese records mention that the Turks in Western Goktürk practiced agriculture and some of them settled in the cities.

    • @oguzmen5451
      @oguzmen5451 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Reader_curiosity As far as I'm aware the contact with Buddhism could be taken back to 200AD

  • @TuRK...
    @TuRK... 5 месяцев назад +2

    Gögsümüzü Kabartıyorsun Kral 🇹🇷

  • @aktodos
    @aktodos 5 месяцев назад +2

    This video deserves much more attention well done Khan's Den team,Emre and all patrons 😌

  • @korkufilmleriscarymovies2283
    @korkufilmleriscarymovies2283 5 месяцев назад +1

    Türkler tarihte 2 tane devletin topraklarına yerleşince halkın arasında eriyip gitmişler .bunlardan biri Çin ikincisi Roma

  • @volkanozturkmen6245
    @volkanozturkmen6245 5 месяцев назад +1

    In 375 AD and 562 AD, during the time of the Hunnic Empire and the Avar Khaganate, the Turks fought with Rome and Byzantium.

  • @winglaileung
    @winglaileung 5 месяцев назад +2

    This is a rare piece of video production,
    good for understanding the human history from all perspectives, not
    a biased one of the west.

  • @onderismail2144
    @onderismail2144 5 месяцев назад +3

    ❤❤ ❤ my Ancestors

  • @olalamalo
    @olalamalo 5 месяцев назад +5

    Thank you very much, it is a great documentary💯🤟💯🇹🇷 Greetings to the GÖK Turks, greetings to the Ötüken warriors

  • @saidbayhan9724
    @saidbayhan9724 5 месяцев назад +3

    elinize sağlık beyler

  • @HeerHalewijn
    @HeerHalewijn 5 месяцев назад +1

    I'd like a video about pre-admixture Scythians meeting Proto-Turkic parent populations and causing the Proto-Turkic ethnogenesis.

  • @plasebox
    @plasebox 5 месяцев назад +2

    Schitians are Turks

  • @CelestialWolf246
    @CelestialWolf246 5 месяцев назад +5

    As Turk from qizik tribe. I am proud of my gokturk ancestors

    • @mustafaerbilek5491
      @mustafaerbilek5491 5 месяцев назад +1

      Hello brother i.m turk from oghuz kayı tribe
      I.m proud of my Göktürk ancestors to

  • @satiroglu44
    @satiroglu44 5 месяцев назад +2

    Now that's sum epic stuff

  • @tonysburgers7223
    @tonysburgers7223 5 месяцев назад +6

    I love the Turk's history

  • @TheLevkara
    @TheLevkara 5 месяцев назад +2

    😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @ffgffg645
    @ffgffg645 5 месяцев назад +2

    👍⭐️👍another great work

  • @MuktiArno
    @MuktiArno 5 месяцев назад +2

    Nice topic. Thank you.

  • @Userjunior2016
    @Userjunior2016 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great video Thanks Emre

  • @johnclapp5447
    @johnclapp5447 5 месяцев назад +2

  • @AntonioTorcoli
    @AntonioTorcoli 5 месяцев назад +2

    Excellent video

  • @billhill8570
    @billhill8570 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great!

  • @timbanyai5329
    @timbanyai5329 Месяц назад

    One question do you plan to cover ottoman wars prior to ww1 specific regarding balkans ect. Your videos are informative and ill no doubt watxh all playlsits in English

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks! And thank you for joining by becoming a member, I appreciate it. Currently, the timeline ends in the year 1500. And as you can see, we have a very long way ahead. But since 2023, Khan's Den has covered history from 220 BC up until 1100 AD, so that's something.

  • @timbanyai5329
    @timbanyai5329 Месяц назад

    And the old wars with russia and Austria Hungary

  • @KatariaGujjar
    @KatariaGujjar 4 месяца назад

    25:18 - 25:38 "tong sent an army of *one thousand* Turks ... described as 'hazar/khazar'.
    I just realized, that _hazar هزار_ in Persian means one thousand. Same word is used in Tajik and Urdu. Maybe that's how Khazars got their name?
    In Hungarian, the word is _ezer_ .
    Armenian: _haz_
    Kurdish: _hezar_

  • @mohammedsaysrashid3587
    @mohammedsaysrashid3587 5 месяцев назад

    It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage of Gokturk step tribe's, Turkik tribe's empires, theirs contacted to Ssassanian and Eastern Roman Empire's through global Silk roads. Temporary alliances with the Persian empire against the (Hephthalite empire) and later alliance with Byzantium empire against the Persian empire. Thank you 🙏(khan Den )channel for sharing ...

  • @bhushanmuneshwar
    @bhushanmuneshwar 5 месяцев назад

    shakil choudhary ji I request you to join science journey stream for right knowledge about Dr B R Ambedkar

  • @golgumbazguide...4113
    @golgumbazguide...4113 5 месяцев назад +1

    Explore Golgumbaz Deccan india

    • @denizucar3947
      @denizucar3947 5 месяцев назад +1

      Turkic history in India is terribly underrated..

    • @denizucar3947
      @denizucar3947 5 месяцев назад +1

      Turkic history in India is terribly underrated.

  • @fierceperedur
    @fierceperedur 5 месяцев назад

    Excellent work! I learned some things I wasn't aware of. ❤

  • @cjthebeesknees
    @cjthebeesknees 5 месяцев назад

    Roman and by extension, Byzantines, make no permanent allies just out of convenience or necessity nothing more nothing less.

  • @chicagogyrl4846
    @chicagogyrl4846 5 месяцев назад

    The background music is not necessary, and ruins the video.

  • @ryantinloy4965
    @ryantinloy4965 5 месяцев назад

    Great video thank you for sharing. In 14:09, may I ask what language was being spoken? I'm guessing Greek?

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you. And yes, it's the transcription into modern Greek. I thought it would add some flair instead of just showing the message in pure text form.

  • @bnbgezgini
    @bnbgezgini 5 месяцев назад

    I want the old voice back pls.

  • @Nahrin_Assyrian
    @Nahrin_Assyrian 5 месяцев назад

    Oh common 😁

  • @cartesian_doubt6230
    @cartesian_doubt6230 5 месяцев назад

    Ruling over empty grasslands is hardly deserving of the name empire.

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  5 месяцев назад +3

      If these grasslands had really been so "empty", so easy to administer, conquer, and rule (as implied), it would not have taken thousands of years until finally a sedentary non-steppe people in the form of the Russian Empire, now armed with guns and artillery, conquered the steppe in the 18th and 19th century.

    • @lilo7741
      @lilo7741 4 месяца назад +1

      There was harsh competition in the steppe because economy was based on horsemanship and pastures which meant speed of movement and changing resources. all the people who had adopted that semi nomadic lifestyle there were competing with each other and had to. It took a disciplined society to establish order and unity there which was purely based on military success and strategic thinking. These conditions eventually matured a society who essentially became a military society which could adapt to any condition and establish order and rule anywhere they went to. And when they (I.e. pecheneg/avar/cuman/bulgar Turks) encountered sedentary people like Slavs or Georgians they were countered. The Turks had established an empire in Central Europe by the 6th century. They came after the Huns and were called Avars who had fled the Turkic Khaganate which had the Caucasus under its control.
      Secondly all the empires and states in the Middle East, Eastern Europe and India fell to the Turks. One By one and were ruled for a period of a 1000 years by these people. So maybe you can now see that what you see as rule over empty grassland was actually the military training of a people who were ripened to become transcontinental conquerors.

  • @ericponce8740
    @ericponce8740 5 месяцев назад

    Justin II was the nephew of Justinian The Great.

    • @KhansDen
      @KhansDen  5 месяцев назад

      True. Duly noted. Thx for the correction. For some reason, I always mix them up.

  • @Reader_curiosity
    @Reader_curiosity 5 месяцев назад +1

    Five hundred years later, the Seljuk Turkish empire took control of the Iranian and Anatolian plateaus.
    The Seljuks did not stop at mere military and political control, but also millions of Oghuz tribes migrated to Anatolia and Iran. A demographic shift occurred in Anatolia and it turned into the Turkestan of Asia Minor. While there is a large percentage of the Turkish population in Iran, ranging between 25-35%, despite There have been several attempts to transform the Turks into Persians and Aryans since the era of Reza Pahlavi.
    Regarding the first question raised in the episode about why the content of the correspondence contained in Byzantine historical sources between Gokturk and the Byzantines is not presented in artistic, documentary, and other works.
    The answer: There are two ideological trends that appear to be in conflict, but they have many commonalities.
    The first trend: It is the anti-Turkic trend that is keen to distort the historical image of the Turks and present it in the worst light.
    The second trend: is the trend of Islamists and neo-Ottomans. These people limit general Turkish history to the Ottoman era only and consider the rest to be unimportant and non-existent. They are keen to present Turkish history in a superficial, distorted and fragmented manner from its historical contexts.
    Of course, the coalition of nationalist parties will win in the upcoming Turkish presidential and parliamentary elections, and therefore some raise concerns about the possibility of stopping the series of the founder, Othman and the Conqueror, and others, and that will never happen.
    Rather, the nationalist parties will support the continued production of series about the period of the emergence of the Ottoman Empire, and will also support the production of artistic works that present all periods of Ottoman history, but in a more objective and far from sanctifying manner. The nationalist parties will also support Turkish drama to present all Turkish history in the eras of Gokturk, the Hephthalites, and the Khazars. The Uyghurs, the Timurids, the Safavids, the Huns, the Anatolian beyliks, and others.
    As for the question about why the delegation from the Sogd region chose to go to Gokturk instead of going to the Sassanians?
    According to many historical studies, the Sogdian delegation that went to Gokturk and asked for an alliance with them were from the Kidara Huns, and they considered the Hephthalites historical enemies because the Hephthalites overthrew their kingdom.
    This incident is repeated historically in the same context, for example, Anatolian Beyliks’ alliance with Tamerlane against the Ottomans.
    The Uighurs allied with Genghis Khan against the Tangut dynasty.
    The Khitan allied with Genghis Khan against the Jurchen dynasty.
    And other....
    Shahnameh epic, the reason for the outbreak of conflict between Gokturk and the Hephthalites was because the Hephthalites attacked trade convoys belonging to Gokturk.

    • @Reader_curiosity
      @Reader_curiosity 3 месяца назад

      I hope to correct the historical information regarding the claim that the Ashina Empire eliminated the Hephthalites in Transoxiana.
      While historical records and historical monuments confirm the continuation of the Hephthalites as followers of the Ashina dynasty.
      The most prominent example of this is the Ikhshids of Samarkand, a small kingdom of the Hephthalites (642-755 AD) subordinate to Ashina, and this is proven in inscriptions and coins.

    • @عليياسر-ف4ن9ك
      @عليياسر-ف4ن9ك 3 месяца назад

      ​@@Reader_curiosityThat is, these small-eyed millions disappeared in the region. Did the indigenous people kill them because they resemble Gog and Magog?

  • @winglaileung
    @winglaileung 5 месяцев назад

    The rise of the Ottoman Empire.

    • @33em
      @33em 5 месяцев назад +1

      Hay ben seni de, Osmanlıyı da...

  • @Alaybayev
    @Alaybayev 5 месяцев назад

    Gokturks 🇰🇬🇰🇿🇺🇿🇹🇲

    • @volkanozturkmen6245
      @volkanozturkmen6245 5 месяцев назад

      Göktürks🇹🇷🇦🇿🇹🇲🇰🇿🇰🇬🇺🇿

    • @Alaybayev
      @Alaybayev 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@volkanozturkmen6245 lol, turkish have no relation to Gokturks, your maximum is Oguz tribes. But 95% turkish people even don’t have any relation to Oguz people

    • @SmaruluSs
      @SmaruluSs 5 месяцев назад

      ​​​@@Alaybayev? OGUZ İS YABGU WERE ANCESTOR GÖKTÜRK 🤬?.

    • @Can-vl8sl
      @Can-vl8sl 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Alaybayev Kyrgyz were enemies of the Gokturks. Turkic khans fought many wars against the Kyrgyz. Also, Oghuzs were the people of the Western Turkic Khanate, Turkmens, Turks, Azerbaijanis, Salar, Gagauz are the descendants of Turgesh and Oghuz Yabgu.

    • @Can-vl8sl
      @Can-vl8sl 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@Alaybayev In the Battle of Sayan Mountains, Great Turk Bilge Qaghan and Kul Tigin killed the Kyrgyz Khan Bars Bek and the Kyrgyz army was destroyed. You Kyrgyz have nothing to do with Gokturks.

  • @sto_karfi842
    @sto_karfi842 5 месяцев назад +1

    Turkey is afraid of the Roman ghost and will never escape that curse...

    • @Umay205
      @Umay205 5 месяцев назад +5

      No, we are not afraid. The Huns destroyed Western Rome and the Ottomans destroyed Eastern Rome. Why should we be afraid when the Turks have always won?

    • @TUNC66
      @TUNC66 5 месяцев назад

      Atilla TurkHun was a Turk who defeated Rome.

    • @thefunder1
      @thefunder1 4 месяца назад +1

      It was Crusaders that crippled ERE for good. The rest was child's play for Ottomans. ​@@Umay205

  • @zafernurullahoglu-gw9te
    @zafernurullahoglu-gw9te 5 месяцев назад +1

    Stop portraying the Gokturks and Huns as mongolites.
    Turks of Ural origin R1 A hablogroup . As at that time Gokturk region and today Anatolian, Caspian or Balkans & Kırım Turks...
    Ignorant people who try to hide the Aryan history thesis slander of European historians, who try to hide that Sintaşta and Andronovo culture is Turkish culture, defend the lie that Turks came from the same region (eastern Siberian forests) as the Mongols and Tungus. Our historians, who have earned their reputation through the mouth of European historians, continue this lie.
    There is no similarity between the Turkish language and the Mongolian Tungus language. It's just a group of words that are transitive in time.
    Turks are white people of Ural origin. He ruled the Altai Mountains and beyond over time and taught civilization to the Mongolian, Tungus and Chinese regions.
    The white race is physically REcessive.
    Mongolid, Yellow race, Indian, Middle Eastern and Anatolian genes are dominant, respectively.
    Over time, with marriages, we evolved into all these various looks...

    • @lilo7741
      @lilo7741 4 месяца назад

      Mongols are so different than Turks.

    • @brainblox5629
      @brainblox5629 2 месяца назад

      Turks aren't of white origin, but unlike Mongols who were hard racists, Turks mixed a lot with Aryan people. Thats how Turks became "whiter". Turks carry the blood of Aryan nomads like the Ossetians and Ukrainians.