Pros and Cons of First Focal Plane & Second Focal Plane Optics
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2019
- Have you wondered what the difference between a First Focal Plane (FFP) and Second Focal Plane (SFP) optic is, or which one best fits your needs? Give us three minutes of your time and we'll explain and demonstrate the differences in one short, concise video.
Thank you, finally, someone actually demonstrates visually the difference between FFP and SFP. Very easy to see and understand. Nice work!
I agree Chris! I understood the difference conceptually but this was a good, practical demonstration. Ordered a SFP 1-6 scope today after worrying a bit because friends said “FFP or nothing!” Not worried now.
This is best overview of the difference between focal planes. Direct and to the point.
Thank you. I found this presentation to be concise, clear, and includes use of EXCELLENT examples. This was exactly the explanation I needed to make an informed decision. Rock on!!
OUTSTANDING video and explanation!
Excellent description of the two and great practical application examples.
Easy and straight forward explanation! Thank you
Awesome video. Thank you for your service brother
Excellent, concise, yet comprehensive. Thank you!
Hey Chasm of sar, that's exactly what we're going for, I appreciate your comment, and thanks for taking the time to watch
Excellent video! Thank you!
Thank you for this EXCELLENT video with practical examples of the benefits and limitations of BOTH SFP & FFP. Subscribed!🙂
Excellent job on your short but awesome video's! Keep it up!!
Thank you very much Steven R, I'm trying!!
Thanks for the detailed education 🤙
This was so helpful
Very clear thank you so much. 😊👍
Absolutely @Steve Bygrave, you're very welcome, glad you found the information useful.
Great vid
Thanks for the education. This helped me a lot.
l started out with a FFP scope, but after comparing the two l now prefer the SFP.
Great video! Prob stick with the first focal plane just for consistency and little lack of confusion for my wife and I both using the gun. And because coyotes can look pretty small out there and bold lines would make it harder.
For variable power optics, my rule of thumb is anything below about 8-10x should be SFP, as in 1-4x, 1-6x and even 1-8x and 2-10x (the latter depends on the application). Anything more, i.e. 3-18x and above FFP is where you want to be.
SpeedLoads glad you said that. Got a 6-24 FFP. Right about the 9-10x zoom the crosshairs start being much easier to see and even better still farther on. Loving the scope and so is my wife on her new 7 rem mag high country.
@@speedloads2469 Thank you, that perfectly sums up what I was looking for.
I feel like ffp is better overall because if you're on the low magnification more likely you're shooting closer yeah? So the fact the mils are harder to see is a not as important? And then the higher magnification you get a better took to help sight in. Or did I misunderstand
pretty much, you'd basically be point shooting that close, and other kinds of shooting you would probably have time (or cover) to scope in anyway.
thank you
Hey Steeldriver, thanks for taking the time to watch
Thanks Now I get it.
Awesome!
Great video! Very informative. Thank you! I want to get into long range (700+ yards) shooting competitions and am trying to decide which would be better for me. Is there a scope with both first and second focal planes? And if so, would it be good for distance shooting in competitions? Also, most importantly. Thank you for your service.
There was a company toying around with dual focal plane scopes, but I'm not sure they ever got it dialed in
Can a FFP and SFP be used for windage correction of a running game?
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First focal plane pros: reticle stays the same when you change the magnification. Easier to have an idea of how far is the object at different zooms if you know the size. Cons at low magnification reticle to small hard to find. At high magnification might be bigger then your target. Second focal plane dont see any pros lol except price.
But. Why not get a fixed magnification? Say 4 x for 100-200 yards. Say 6x for 100-500. 10x for 400+. Advantages; for same money you get a better scope. The money that goes into creating the variable goes into making the lenses so better image. Especially budget scopes they just zoom into image imperfections. You will know your reticle like your own mom. Less lenses means longer life more light less distorsions. Imagine you fight using a knife from 10 years age. When you are 40, they give you a variable lenght knife. Idea is you will play with that zoom too much instead of getting used to the same image over time. Why you think most snipers use a fixed 10x scope?
I'm a Sniper, Never Used a Fixed 10x scope once.
@@captainnitro4459lol
God bless metric system. Example - Schmidt&Bender PMII 10x42. So simple - 1 click = cm on 100 m.
I probably didn’t make the right choice for my air rifle. I purchased a second focal plane as compared to a first focal plane. All my stuff is marksmanship and target shooting with the KERVAN airboss K1 25 caliber air rifle.
I purchased the I purchased the Discovery Lhd 4-16x44 sfp second focal plan. I’m shooting up to 200 yards or more. Was it a mistake to purchase this?
Why would you be zoomed so far out on a long distance target and not be able to see the reticle to begin with though? FFP
Looking at lpvo 100 yd is sfp fine ❤
Everyone always says smaller or bigger reticle ok I get it but I Still is the only difference the wind holds?
You forgot to mention for aSFP scope you could hold off very well . All you need to do is be on the specific magnification setting often ID in red and you are all set . Long range shooters use this technique all the time. Do not be sold on marketing
can elaborate?
So for long range precision shooting 1st is the way too go?
Yes
@@petergriffin383 I agree with @Peter Griffin
great, stuck with a vortex viper pst gen ii 5x25 that's second focal plane. pretty much just bought it getting into shooting and I didn't know better at the time. kinda not satisfied with everything now. ugh
@Chad Klaren easy Chad. Easy. Its not what I wanted. Use your brain to shut up next time.
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@@thephantomzoneboxing your way late bro. The wahhhhhing is over. I got a Leupold mark 5hd now an it’s badass. Bye.
@@samuelw.3992well thats good whiner boy im happy for you!
@@thephantomzoneboxing at least I’m not a rude miserable piece of garbage.
With ffp the parallax adjustment is more critical. this is almost never mentioned.
Might be a dumb question, but let’s say I have a 4-12 sfp scope sighted at 100 yards 6X magnification . If my target is at 400m, I’m using the 4th tac mark on my scope (just for the example) and I turn my scope up to 10x magnification, would I still use the 4th tac Marc or is my point of impact going to change?
Kinda what I was wondering too. My use is for deer, some woods and some wide open fields. My eyes are getting old so I like high magnification. I’m looking at a Vortex Crossfire Diamondback 4x12-44 second plane on a 450 Bushmaster. Many scopes will suit my needs out to 250 yrds. So many choices!
The tick marks (sub tensions) change at different magnifications with SFP
FFP Always cost more ?
Ah, the actual practical pros/cons and not just the mechanical differences.
I have a FFP scope, when I'm fully zoomed in at 16x the middle crosshair of the reticle becomes blurry and paper thin
Is there a way to adjust that?
buy a better scope
I still don't know what I want
be nice if an optic can have both functions1st & 2nd focal plane, I mean, we put a man on the moon.
Burris has one, just saw it in a vid
There are companies that are certainly working on it ...
Excellent video! Thank you!
Hey Peter Griffin, thank you for taking the time to watch!