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@@thecloneguyz I never thought of that! I usually use the lightest weight board possible and np board is usually heavier than I need when using 4x4 or 4x8 sheets (1/4 to 1/2). I like to design my own models (Ships, cars, planes, trains, space vehicles and houses/buildings) and I don't need more than a toothpick to help support it.
Great glue question. Might even be worth to do a special on "How to reliably glue certain materials together and to other materials." especially for the Cosplay community where nails and screws are rarely an option in a costume.
I just love watching you answer questions Adam, I've watched the whole backlog on the channel and then re-watched them multiple times. I get excited every time I see a new one up. I'll definitely become a member once I have the budget for it!
Remember as a kid me and my dad got into building model kits of cars, and Star Trek ships. The fun of figuring out that the orange smelling weld-bond “model” glue was actually pretty awful stuff and having to open the window for ventilation and get a fan to blow the off-gasses away from the work table in all kinds of weather. Still think the worst thing to avoid breathing was this paint stripper to remove a polyester guitar finish (paint store wasn’t sure what would work, so they gave me the most aggressive stuff they had!) I didn’t even bother with opening a window, and just did it outside in the yard on a nice day. It worked, but it also stripped off the sealer coat, which meant extra work. (Later on I learned it’s just better to sand this type of finish off since once you see the color coat is gone, you stop.)
Getting that feedback you don't want is critical in moving forward. After writing many theses at university I never forget a comment a professor gave me in an essay was: "You've got that meta-critical awareness of an Honours student I expected." If you're not going to question yourself, then someone else will. Nice lesson, Adam 🙂
Most people are very traditional and minimally inventive, especially in the trades. It is amazing how faulty traditional techniques are and how little time it takes to improve them or discard them. If you are technically minded, expect to start improving and discarding within a couple of weeks. I have found this to be true at the early hobby stage of bookbinding, upholstery, etc, but also in more technical things like audio recording and signal processing. As an example, most people record a hot digital level regardless of the microphone and preamp combination, even though a hot level wastes dynamic range on the top without improving dynamic range on the bottom. They don't test the range of gain levels to find the minimum that achieves the maximum possible sound quality and how the gain is actually implemented.
There's a method of debugging software called 'rubber duck debugging' or 'rubber ducking' whereby the person doing the programming talks through the code with a rubber duck. The rubber duck can't provide any help but the act of talking through the code is enough to find solutions to problems.
I was making a 0 scale of my friends pizza shop and used insulation foam board and I put glue and took hours to dry. When I put like a base coat the foam melted after hours of measuring cm and marking and pressing to textured replicate bricks lol but I learned.
I was crafting a snow globe, got careless, and forgot to test spray a piece of my material to see how my waterproofing spray would react to the material. It dissolved on contact.
Best foam glue I have used is E6000. Great stuff. Dries fast, if you treat it like contact cement, coat both sides and let it dry a bit. Also it is flexible and tough; will allow some give and takes abuses/impact.
On technic: sometimes we stand on the shoulders of giants! I'm working on a Muppet build and was GOBSMACKED to learn that Henson had his OWN STITCH to hide seams and it's perfect!
Title made me think Adam would let us know what kind of glue he likes for other kinds of foam. Like EVA or XPS, but alas. Next time it would be great if you where to add the kind of foam you're talking about Mr. Savage?
good stuff, adam! any suggestions on what is best for gluing eps or xps foam layers together when laminating to form a larger block for sculpting? so it needs to hold and easily be cut through using a hot knife, curry comb, or other styrofoam sculping materials. the top two recommendations i've seen so far are great stuff (the red can) and glidden gripper. however, ppg bought out glidden and from what i've read they adjusted the formulation and ppg gripper isn't nearly as good or reliable for this job. so, those with actual experience in this specific application, what is your go-to adhesive?
*just remember that Gorilla glue is NOT intended to be used on hair braids to make them more durable...bad things happen...especially to the scalp...so best not to use it in that manner*
He sort of answered this on another Q&A. I recall the question was something like "when do you pay someone else to make something vs. making it yourself", which isn't quite the same, but the analysis is similar: how much do you value your time, and was the making valuable to you for other reasons (enjoyment, skills building). Now that I'm thinking about it, you should also consider the durability of the thing; an animal cage will be strong enough to hold an animal (and presumably a child climbing on it) while a prop cage probably isn't. Hanging an item on a wall you might prefer a lightweight prop vs. a heavier real version. Real items with an expiration date are impossible to store, so if you want eggs it should be clear whether you need good-looking prop eggs or if you can get away with a dozen cheap grocery store eggs for your one-off photo shoot. Does it need to be breakable by actors, in which case a real version would be more expensive and also need to be modified for easy and repeatable breakage, vs a bunch of prop versions. And then, do you want a usable version of the thing in the future? You could make a prop table for a medieval feast scene using a tablecloth over plywood and some rough posts for legs. But you're not keeping that "table" afterward. If you made a really nice border around the front, and heavier planks across the top, and then just use a table runner so it shows off the wood, then you could maybe reuse those elements later or even reuse the whole table for a workshop or kitchen. Obvs I can't speak to what Adam would have answered.
Being willing to discuss a plan of action with another person and then admit that it wont work out brings to mind a quote I remember hearing someplace before... Failure is always an option... Speaking of glue, do you ever find yourself buying glue and think to yourself, Im tired of always saying C.A. glue... Im buying SUPERglue this time!
Não acredito que achei o canal do Adam, na verdade nem sabia que ele tinha um, eu sei que ninguem vai entende o que eu to escrevendo, mas, lembro de assisti os caçadores de mitos de segunda a sexta, acho, na TV Cultura, quando era criança, e agora aqui no youtube, me deu uma nostalgia agora kkkk
What about bonding mixed materials? Eg, I have gloves that used rubber backing on velcro strips, and the bond let go. I need something to re-bond them, but remain flexible.
if its not something that has to be inspected for its bond. use the clear but it it does get the purple stuff. on your pvc glue. and yes Adam is right its like model glue on steroids. to the 10x.
Adam correctly described the study and development of Techniques through various results, that's what we call Technology. The most misused word of the Future. Ironic.
Thanks for sharing your wisdom, experience, and excitement, Sir Adam. Just want to say, other than your hair being a bit lighter, you look the same as you did many years ago when my kids and I would watch you on Mythbusters. Do you have access to a secret youth potion?
Yeah I was imagining the use-case for a model or diorama builder who needs to laminate several sheets to build up terrain height, so glue between to join them. When you pour baking soda on the CA glue it hardens pretty quickly, right? I haven't tried it yet. But it would be a quick sprinkle-and-slam application to get them together fast enough. I imagine it would help a lot more when joining small pieces onto a larger piece, because you want high strength per surface area. Maybe when doing a butt joint for say the four walls and roof of a house, dab extra glue inside on the joints and sprinkle baking soda in there.
@H⚙meW⚙rk See this is what Adam was talking about in the video. If I hadn't said my dumb way of thinking about it, I would have never encountered your more sensible way to do it. Let's talk about the bonding though. Do you think there's an issue where after bonding, one piece ends up with more powder and the other side more glue, and the glue doesn't migrate fully through the powdered side to reach the foam? Or is that not really a problem?
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Have you guys ever used a 'load-bearing' foam like np1 instead of an expansion foam meant for air?
@@thecloneguyz I never thought of that! I usually use the lightest weight board possible and np board is usually heavier than I need when using 4x4 or 4x8 sheets (1/4 to 1/2). I like to design my own models (Ships, cars, planes, trains, space vehicles and houses/buildings) and I don't need more than a toothpick to help support it.
Great glue question. Might even be worth to do a special on "How to reliably glue certain materials together and to other materials." especially for the Cosplay community where nails and screws are rarely an option in a costume.
This. A glued to A is 'relativly' easy: find a glue for A and you're done. But what about gluing A to B?
Seriously the struggle is real with this! What adhesive for a+b maybe c
I just love watching you answer questions Adam, I've watched the whole backlog on the channel and then re-watched them multiple times. I get excited every time I see a new one up. I'll definitely become a member once I have the budget for it!
Me, too!
Remember as a kid me and my dad got into building model kits of cars, and Star Trek ships. The fun of figuring out that the orange smelling weld-bond “model” glue was actually pretty awful stuff and having to open the window for ventilation and get a fan to blow the off-gasses away from the work table in all kinds of weather.
Still think the worst thing to avoid breathing was this paint stripper to remove a polyester guitar finish (paint store wasn’t sure what would work, so they gave me the most aggressive stuff they had!) I didn’t even bother with opening a window, and just did it outside in the yard on a nice day. It worked, but it also stripped off the sealer coat, which meant extra work. (Later on I learned it’s just better to sand this type of finish off since once you see the color coat is gone, you stop.)
My rule of thumb if I don't know what solvent or stripper to use is to find the thing with the most warning labels, and go outside
I’d love a comprehensive guide on what glues and adhesives work for what materials. Should be its own video!
I think that one would be a couple hours long! Or more! When I think about what all I have just here at home ...
😃
He has one in his book
Getting that feedback you don't want is critical in moving forward. After writing many theses at university I never forget a comment a professor gave me in an essay was: "You've got that meta-critical awareness of an Honours student I expected." If you're not going to question yourself, then someone else will. Nice lesson, Adam 🙂
The earliest lessons I learned making stuff as a kid was knowing what kind of glue and paint would melt foam lol
You wanted to melt the foam. 🤘
@@ipissed probably the other way around. They tried to glue or paint something and the project started melting. Happened to me several times as well.
@@azraelf.6287 Do you know what Styrofoam melted in gasoline is?
@@ipissed that is the recipe for an outdoor toy.
@@azraelf.6287a toy that saw a lot of use in Vietnam
Never gonna let you down, Adam. =)
Most people are very traditional and minimally inventive, especially in the trades. It is amazing how faulty traditional techniques are and how little time it takes to improve them or discard them. If you are technically minded, expect to start improving and discarding within a couple of weeks. I have found this to be true at the early hobby stage of bookbinding, upholstery, etc, but also in more technical things like audio recording and signal processing. As an example, most people record a hot digital level regardless of the microphone and preamp combination, even though a hot level wastes dynamic range on the top without improving dynamic range on the bottom. They don't test the range of gain levels to find the minimum that achieves the maximum possible sound quality and how the gain is actually implemented.
There's a method of debugging software called 'rubber duck debugging' or 'rubber ducking' whereby the person doing the programming talks through the code with a rubber duck. The rubber duck can't provide any help but the act of talking through the code is enough to find solutions to problems.
Once again, I find myself singing the praises of BSI Industries CA glue.
Adam just Rick Rolled us
I was making a 0 scale of my friends pizza shop and used insulation foam board and I put glue and took hours to dry. When I put like a base coat the foam melted after hours of measuring cm and marking and pressing to textured replicate bricks lol but I learned.
I was crafting a snow globe, got careless, and forgot to test spray a piece of my material to see how my waterproofing spray would react to the material. It dissolved on contact.
Best foam glue I have used is E6000. Great stuff. Dries fast, if you treat it like contact cement, coat both sides and let it dry a bit. Also it is flexible and tough; will allow some give and takes abuses/impact.
I've used E6000 on more things than I could shake a stick at. It's my go-to for anything that requires a little flexibility.
I made the mistake of thinking E6000 was okay for polystyrene. It is not. I melted everything :(
Hey Adam awesome video!!! I love your channel and content!!
On technic: sometimes we stand on the shoulders of giants! I'm working on a Muppet build and was GOBSMACKED to learn that Henson had his OWN STITCH to hide seams and it's perfect!
Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!
Super glue "gel" works best for foam. Used it to glue dreads onto my predator mask .
Bill Doran is an excellent craftsman!
Title made me think Adam would let us know what kind of glue he likes for other kinds of foam. Like EVA or XPS, but alas. Next time it would be great if you where to add the kind of foam you're talking about Mr. Savage?
Does he mean Bill Doran of Punished Props?
Yup
I'd love to see a collaboration between Bill and Adam. Bill can foamsmith a prop, and Adam can embellish, paint, weather and finish it.
They worked together on the One Day Build for a Foam Ringwraith Gauntlet but they should definitely collab again!
@@tdhickman you're right! I forgot about that. Seen so many videos it's hard to remember them all. Haha
It's been over 100 lately up here in Sacramento. Sometimes I do miss the bay area non-seasons.
good stuff, adam! any suggestions on what is best for gluing eps or xps foam layers together when laminating to form a larger block for sculpting? so it needs to hold and easily be cut through using a hot knife, curry comb, or other styrofoam sculping materials. the top two recommendations i've seen so far are great stuff (the red can) and glidden gripper. however, ppg bought out glidden and from what i've read they adjusted the formulation and ppg gripper isn't nearly as good or reliable for this job. so, those with actual experience in this specific application, what is your go-to adhesive?
Getting hot here on the west coast of Canada too xD Love your channel Adam! You are the best! :D
Gorrilla glue, foam safe CA, shoogoo - all depends on application (i build rc planes and tried them all)
*just remember that Gorilla glue is NOT intended to be used on hair braids to make them more durable...bad things happen...especially to the scalp...so best not to use it in that manner*
How often do you decide that using the actual item would have been easier or cheaper than making a prop?
He sort of answered this on another Q&A. I recall the question was something like "when do you pay someone else to make something vs. making it yourself", which isn't quite the same, but the analysis is similar: how much do you value your time, and was the making valuable to you for other reasons (enjoyment, skills building).
Now that I'm thinking about it, you should also consider the durability of the thing; an animal cage will be strong enough to hold an animal (and presumably a child climbing on it) while a prop cage probably isn't. Hanging an item on a wall you might prefer a lightweight prop vs. a heavier real version. Real items with an expiration date are impossible to store, so if you want eggs it should be clear whether you need good-looking prop eggs or if you can get away with a dozen cheap grocery store eggs for your one-off photo shoot. Does it need to be breakable by actors, in which case a real version would be more expensive and also need to be modified for easy and repeatable breakage, vs a bunch of prop versions.
And then, do you want a usable version of the thing in the future? You could make a prop table for a medieval feast scene using a tablecloth over plywood and some rough posts for legs. But you're not keeping that "table" afterward. If you made a really nice border around the front, and heavier planks across the top, and then just use a table runner so it shows off the wood, then you could maybe reuse those elements later or even reuse the whole table for a workshop or kitchen.
Obvs I can't speak to what Adam would have answered.
Dude! I was just wondering how to glue some foam
Being willing to discuss a plan of action with another person and then admit that it wont work out brings to mind a quote I remember hearing someplace before... Failure is always an option...
Speaking of glue, do you ever find yourself buying glue and think to yourself, Im tired of always saying C.A. glue... Im buying SUPERglue this time!
Não acredito que achei o canal do Adam, na verdade nem sabia que ele tinha um, eu sei que ninguem vai entende o que eu to escrevendo, mas, lembro de assisti os caçadores de mitos de segunda a sexta, acho, na TV Cultura, quando era criança, e agora aqui no youtube, me deu uma nostalgia agora kkkk
Thanks.
Now I have to check out Bill Durands channel. ✌ 😃
It's Bill Doran, channel name is Punished Props
I have to wonder if the Sintra you had trouble glueing was coated for screen printing or flatbed printing.
What about bonding mixed materials? Eg, I have gloves that used rubber backing on velcro strips, and the bond let go. I need something to re-bond them, but remain flexible.
In the UK it has been 40.3 °C or 104.5 °F
so, is "weldbond" and "pvc glue" different things? or just different names for the same thing?
Yo somebody turn Adam Savage into a borderlands character. That would be lit.
what glue will work to glue neoprene rubber to aluminum sheet/plate?
if its not something that has to be inspected for its bond. use the clear but it it does get the purple stuff. on your pvc glue. and yes Adam is right its like model glue on steroids. to the 10x.
I must be in the right part of northern California considering we've had a 60 degree (f) summer.
When in doubt: ask Bill. Got it XD
what a shoutout to @punishedprops!
Adam correctly described the study and development of Techniques through various results, that's what we call Technology. The most misused word of the Future. Ironic.
I use foam tac or hot glue
It’s been 106 here in KS
Foam Tack for EPP.
Thanks for sharing your wisdom, experience, and excitement, Sir Adam.
Just want to say, other than your hair being a bit lighter, you look the same as you did many years ago when my kids and I would watch you on Mythbusters. Do you have access to a secret youth potion?
Continuing to work really helps! ;)
6:13 baking soda gusset
What does that mean? Is that when joining edges
If it's also for when laying pieces flat to join them I don't get that method.
Yeah I was imagining the use-case for a model or diorama builder who needs to laminate several sheets to build up terrain height, so glue between to join them. When you pour baking soda on the CA glue it hardens pretty quickly, right? I haven't tried it yet. But it would be a quick sprinkle-and-slam application to get them together fast enough.
I imagine it would help a lot more when joining small pieces onto a larger piece, because you want high strength per surface area. Maybe when doing a butt joint for say the four walls and roof of a house, dab extra glue inside on the joints and sprinkle baking soda in there.
@H⚙meW⚙rk See this is what Adam was talking about in the video. If I hadn't said my dumb way of thinking about it, I would have never encountered your more sensible way to do it.
Let's talk about the bonding though. Do you think there's an issue where after bonding, one piece ends up with more powder and the other side more glue, and the glue doesn't migrate fully through the powdered side to reach the foam? Or is that not really a problem?
Or best foam for glue🧐
If it melts the parts, then it's called cement.
Need your help for a project
Have we been rickroled at 1:40 ?
it was 101 in NYC the other day 🥵
With that apron your wearing...do you often drop everytthing if you bend over ...I keep doing that with my apron that i made
Hey Mister Savage where can I get the stranger things theme Savage shirts
I like turtles
Also this is the earliest I've ever been to one of these videos.
Did you ever meet Jamie's horrible pet spider?
Gasoline
I will bend like a reed in the wind...
Bill who? Durant, Doran?
Bill Doran aka Punished Props
Hummmm … be reasonable, do it my way.
UHU Por
Sorry I thought that it would include a demonstration of gluing a piece of foam which it didn't. THUMBS DOWN!!!
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