Your videos always feel like they were created in the mid 80s; and that's great :). Your delivery is one of a kind, keep going !! Have you considered a patreon?
Exactly why I'm binging them. Its a style thats sorely missed. Reminds me of the old "Battlefield' BBC series. 2 hours long, no dumb music, just well researched solid pieces.@@TheOldMachines
I read somewhere Garuda's CEO at that time, Wiweko Soepeno, decided to sell all 3 CV-990s to make all jet fleet in domestic flight, by purchasing F28s and DC-9-32s. At that time, Garuda made record as second largest Asian airlines in terms of total number of fleets, behind Japan Airlines, and the largest F28 operator. As kid in the 80s, I could only tell the difference between F28s and DC-9s from the way Garuda painted the engines (both were T-tail twinjet). The F28 had red color paint on RR Spey, while the DC-9s JT8D in chrome silver. Later in the 90s, another Indonesian's private airlines, Sempati Air (defunct in 1998) became the launch customer of F70, and even become the first airlines in Indonesia that provided PTV (personal television) in every seats.
I remember NLM’s English language advertising slogan “Don’t Fly With Any Other Fokker”. I think it was on a huge roadside hoarding on the approach road to Schiphol…
Sweden's domestic airline Linjeflyg used almost exclusively Fokker F27 and F28. They where the last Airline to operate from Bromma in 1983 when the airport closed for commercial traffic (it later reopened because of EU rules in the 90''s). Linjeflyg moved to Arlanda and what is today Terminal 4 and what was then the new Domestic Terminal. Finally introducing Jet Bridges for domestic traffic. I had a teacher in school who had worked at the maintenance hangar for Linjeflyg at Arlanda and he took our class on a visit to the hangar as they serviced Fokker F28 and showed us around and up close. In case of war Linjeflyg was supposed to be used for Troop transports to the Island of Gotland moving mobilized soldiers to their units on the island. During exercises Linjeflyg F28 would fly in formation at very low level over the Baltic to avoid radar. An interesting incident with a Fokker F28 from Linjeflyg happend on the 5th of July 1987 when Fokker F28 SE-DGP on a flight from Arlanda to Ronneby-(Kallinge) mistakenly landed at Emmaboda Airport 24 nautical miles north of their desination. This was a small AFIS airpost which had no flight controler on duty. As the flight controller at Ronneby lost radio contact when the aircraft landed an air force rescue helicopter was launched and sent in the approach direction of the aircraft looking for the presumed crashed jet. Eleven minutes after radio contact was lost the air trafic controller recieved a phonecall from Linjeflyg where he was informed the aircraft had landed at Emmaboda. Emmaboda fullfiled the requirements for a VFR landing with a Fokker F28 but the airport had no ground facilities to support it.
My only experience with this aircraft occurred in West Africa in the early '80s on a Ghana Airways flight from Accra to Lagos. Fifteen minutes into the flight there was a loud bang and a smell of burning. We had lost one of our Rolls Royce engines. Everyone was calm and, without fuss, the pilot guided us back to Accra. You would not have known we were flying on one engine, a testament to the pilot and Dutch engineering. It was late at night when we landed and were given accommodation in a whore house which was guarded by an elderly Ghanaian with a large spear. We were offered companionship for the night which we declined.
The FIFO business is huge in Australia and not just confined to Diamonds but Iron Ore as well with some routes being between Queensland and Western Australia these day with mines in Mt Isa in QLD and The Pilbara region of WA to name a few.
Like how Ludvig Braathen put that SAFE after his last name. It didn't mean safety but it made his airline's name look good and even made it lookn intriguing. It meant S outh A merica and F ar E ast.
The first and only time I flew the F-28 was on Papua New Guinea’s flag carrier Air Niugini in 1997. It was an international South Pacific round trip flight from PNG’s capital Port Moresby to the capital of Solomon Islands Honiara and back. It was a pleasant surprise to fly on this early jet age aircraft having been used to flying on its contemporaries in the Philippine domestic and Asian regional flights in earlier decades: Caravelle, BAC-111, 737. Around this period, the Philippine Air Force operated an F-28 for VIP flights.
Living in the Pilbara region of Western Australia back in the 1970s-80s I often flew in these neat looking aircraft between Paraburdoo and Perth.However one flight was in a F28 belonging to Air Niugini which came as a bit of a surprise.I believe that MMA maintained these Air Niugini F28s at their Perth airport base.Interesting video,keep up the good work.
Very good run down on a good little airliner. I was surprised that you did not mention the large fleets that were operated in Indonesia with Garuda and Merpati amongst others though. All the best.
It was always a pleasure to see the F28 at LHR. I used to love seeing the NLM CityHopper F28s but also the TAT operated jets as well. I am quite sure I also saw the Air Anglia PH-MOL, either at Aberdeen or at Norwich.
From 1979 to 1982, we spent a fortnight every August in Guernsey on our summer holidays. Being the young commercial aviation enthusiast that I was, I would often catch a bus to the airport and spend the afternoon watching the planes from the viewing deck on the terminal roof. I was always pleased with myself when I managed to see NLM Cityhopper's F28 either arrive or depart. At the time, it was the only jet aircraft allowed to fly to Guernsey. I believe it flew in from Eindhoven, not Amsterdam, although I could have false memory on that one. It looked so smart parked on the apron amongst the usual propeller visitors such as the Islander, Trislander, HP Herald, Vickers Viscount, F27, and HS748, which looked so old fashioned in comparison!
Awesome video as always! I treat myself to these every weekend...the matter-of-fact delivery is just so refreshing - no unnecessary drama of any kind. Thank you!!
I take these to work every week in Australia. Alliance Airlines has a huge FIFO (Fly in/Fly out) business model and these suit the job perfectly. They do wet lease to Qantas and Virgin Australia. Qantas and Virgin have their own based in Western Australia for the FIFO mining contracts to fly workers in and back home. The ones I fly on are ex American Airlines and Austrian Airlines and are around 30yrs+ in age. Still a great aircraft to fly on, however my biggest complaint is the air conditioning. These birds are working in harsh and hot climates of the outback and more often than not in summer you are sweating mid flight. I read there was N optional 'tropic' pack when ordering for hotter regions with a better air conditioning unit. 😅
I think you may be confusing this with the later Fokker 70 and 100, which are still in service in Australia while the subject of this video, the Fokker F-28 is long retired in Oz.
Yes sorry, good and interesting story re Oz , but about the wrong plane my friend. Visually they are similar but as the previous commenter said, F28s were retired many, many years ago. In Europe it was chiefly engine noise regs that killed them off long before the airframes were finished, I’m not sure whether that was the case in Oz too. You’ll have to wait for the follow up film on the later F70 and F100 models!
Saskatoon Airport in Canada has a lot of decommissioned F28 just parked and bundled up at one point having 22 such aircraft, but slowly being scrapped or taken by private customers
I was tickled to see that Horizon Air plane near the end of the video. They're the only airline that flies in/out of my small regional airport. (These days they're owned by Alaska Airlines and the planes all wear the Alaska Airlines livery, and, yes, as you said, they're usually CRJs or Bombardiers.)
When QX operated the F28, they had their own livery and the F28 was used on their main trunk routes from Seattle and Portland to Boise and Spokane. The Dash 8 were used on other routes.
Good ol' Fokker. Funny to think the company I work for atm was founded by ex Fokker people who left wel before the collapse figuring out it was not going to last simply because of limited production capacity, how correct they where, though it took a bit longer i think than they expected.
I was introduced to the Fokker F28 with Piedmont Airlines in the 1980s. Did not know of the long history in research, development, engineering manufacturing and production in the mid 60s into the 70s. Do recall of deicing fatal accidents in Canada along with the USAir aircraft at LaGuardia.
Great vlog as always! I have worked both for Braathens SAFE (South American Far East Airtransport) and SAS. There was no wind at the time of the accident, only fog type clouds. When LN-SUO was scrapped in 2001 She had a TT of 45k and 90k cycles! Her first year was spent down under leased to MMA from BU. LF of Sweden looked to BU and bought three -1000 for del in 1973. After a while they met with Fokker and said we need a lager aircraft. Then the -4000 was born. They even bought a brand new aircraft from Fokker with no engines! That is a story for another time. Can you think of a more hostile place to fly than in the arctic and down under? One extreme to another. Fokker had a very good reputation. I loved this pocket rocket. It was a F-16 compared to the 737-200. BU flew as many as 16 cycles a day! If that is not a true work horse I do not know what is. Keep up the good work!
Good to see the Air Anglia F28 PH-MOL. It's funny that future incarnations of Air Anglia and NLM Cityhopper would merge their Fokker fleets in 2003. Looking forward to part two covering the F28 Mk 100 and Mk 70, aka the F100 and F70. The F100 was my first jet in my airline career, and I spent many hours observing on CofA and post maintenance flight tests on the KLM uk (formerly Air UK) fleet.
5:49 Oh, just lovely to see the Braathens S•A•F•E (LN-SUN) F28, and FBU airport mentioned… 👍 Another airliner that first flew just around my birth year. (there are several…), and the first large (well…) airport I visited. The “SAFE” in Braathens was an acronym for “South American & Far East”. That business model certainly changed… Fornebu Airport was our cramped national main hub until it closed in 1997. I lived nearby, and watched the kilometre long “train” of utility vehicles as they undertook the logistics move to the rebuilt ENGM (OSL). I think the highway was closed down at night for the 45 km one-time leg for the tow trucks, rolling stairs, tankers and what not. These vehicles could of course not go outside of an airport lacking white registration plates. Bureaucrats… Getting older, I guess, and the 1972 Braathens LN-SUY F28 disaster cast deep shadows… Great work as always, mr McVeigh! 👍
9:00 The Super F-28 retained the rear-engined layout of the F-28, with a lengthened F-28 fuselage. A later revision added a lower lobe to the fuselage. The F-29 had a new fuselage with a larger diameter, and moved to underwing engines.
The first time i see it, its a beautiful aircraft. sadly its looks like not in airworthy condition. There were 2 Indonesian Airforce F28 sitting in apron at Halim Perdana Kusuma airport. hopefully they can preserve atleast one model in museum
Fokker did a proposal for the US Navy, to use the F-28 on aircraft carriers for COD, tanker, ELINT and AEW duties, replacing the Greyhound. This was to use the shortest fuselage variant with the larger wing, with new landing gear. They did landing tests on a US Navy base, but the Navy stuck with the C-2 in the end.
The fact that Fokker had to rely on other European Aerospace Manufacturers to develop & build aircraft...goes a long way to explain why they are no longer in business today. Honestly though, it's a shame they never survived long enough to be consolidated into what is now Airbus. Had if happened, then that company would have obtained a A220 Sized Plan (the F100 that is) in the Early 2000s rather than in the Late 2010s.
Yeah you can only hushkit a RR Spey so far! I remember early F28s coming in and out of my local airport Stansted in the 70’s, and before hush kits were fitted (in the early 80s ?) they were deafening, especially considering the tiny size of the engine. The next phase of EU noise restrictions (1992?) couldn’t be met by the hush-kitted Spey so the F28s (some of them barely a decade old) disappeared completely from uk skies.
McDonnell Douglas: “Why need engine reliability for Death Cruiser 10X with Fokker, 2 engined aircraft partnership, when instead we can just keep 3 engine, and many engine can fail. Somebody, please-Think of the shareholders ” 😂
In the early 2000s there was an official NIMBY whinge by the Magnolia residents of Seattle. Complaining specifically about the noise of the F-28 over their poor little heads. I wrote a letter to The Seattle Times claiming any of these fragile snowflakes would board an F-28, regardless of the noise it inflicted on the proletariat, if it meant arriving at their destination.
Your videos always feel like they were created in the mid 80s; and that's great :). Your delivery is one of a kind, keep going !! Have you considered a patreon?
This comment! The best part about these documentaries is the "classic" feel. No fluff, just clean presentation filled with information. Rare nowadays
Exactly why I'm binging them. Its a style thats sorely missed. Reminds me of the old "Battlefield' BBC series. 2 hours long, no dumb music, just well researched solid pieces.@@TheOldMachines
I too feel the same. Keeping it real. No unnecessary dramatisation, a rare quality these days.
Its always a good day when Ruairidh uploads
Yes indeed
I read somewhere Garuda's CEO at that time, Wiweko Soepeno, decided to sell all 3 CV-990s to make all jet fleet in domestic flight, by purchasing F28s and DC-9-32s. At that time, Garuda made record as second largest Asian airlines in terms of total number of fleets, behind Japan Airlines, and the largest F28 operator. As kid in the 80s, I could only tell the difference between F28s and DC-9s from the way Garuda painted the engines (both were T-tail twinjet). The F28 had red color paint on RR Spey, while the DC-9s JT8D in chrome silver. Later in the 90s, another Indonesian's private airlines, Sempati Air (defunct in 1998) became the launch customer of F70, and even become the first airlines in Indonesia that provided PTV (personal television) in every seats.
I remember NLM’s English language advertising slogan “Don’t Fly With Any Other Fokker”. I think it was on a huge roadside hoarding on the approach road to Schiphol…
Sweden's domestic airline Linjeflyg used almost exclusively Fokker F27 and F28. They where the last Airline to operate from Bromma in 1983 when the airport closed for commercial traffic (it later reopened because of EU rules in the 90''s). Linjeflyg moved to Arlanda and what is today Terminal 4 and what was then the new Domestic Terminal. Finally introducing Jet Bridges for domestic traffic.
I had a teacher in school who had worked at the maintenance hangar for Linjeflyg at Arlanda and he took our class on a visit to the hangar as they serviced Fokker F28 and showed us around and up close.
In case of war Linjeflyg was supposed to be used for Troop transports to the Island of Gotland moving mobilized soldiers to their units on the island. During exercises Linjeflyg F28 would fly in formation at very low level over the Baltic to avoid radar.
An interesting incident with a Fokker F28 from Linjeflyg happend on the 5th of July 1987 when Fokker F28 SE-DGP on a flight from Arlanda to Ronneby-(Kallinge) mistakenly landed at Emmaboda Airport 24 nautical miles north of their desination. This was a small AFIS airpost which had no flight controler on duty.
As the flight controller at Ronneby lost radio contact when the aircraft landed an air force rescue helicopter was launched and sent in the approach direction of the aircraft looking for the presumed crashed jet. Eleven minutes after radio contact was lost the air trafic controller recieved a phonecall from Linjeflyg where he was informed the aircraft had landed at Emmaboda.
Emmaboda fullfiled the requirements for a VFR landing with a Fokker F28 but the airport had no ground facilities to support it.
My only experience with this aircraft occurred in West Africa in the early '80s on a Ghana Airways flight from Accra to Lagos. Fifteen minutes into the flight there was a loud bang and a smell of burning. We had lost one of our Rolls Royce engines. Everyone was calm and, without fuss, the pilot guided us back to Accra. You would not have known we were flying on one engine, a testament to the pilot and Dutch engineering. It was late at night when we landed and were given accommodation in a whore house which was guarded by an elderly Ghanaian with a large spear. We were offered companionship for the night which we declined.
Thought the accommodation might be a typo until I read the last sentence 😆
Dad was maintenance for Empire airlines. Great memories with the F-28
Beautiful airplane, thank you for making these documentaries! Greetings from the Netherlands 👋🏻😀
Hope you Fokkers enjoyed this. I did!
Excellent video as usual! And thanks for using my Air Mauritanie photo :)
The FIFO business is huge in Australia and not just confined to Diamonds but Iron Ore as well with some routes being between Queensland and Western Australia these day with mines in Mt Isa in QLD and The Pilbara region of WA to name a few.
Lucky enough to have a House colours Verkuyl Promotional model 🇦🇺
Always fascinating to listen to these videos...
Like how Ludvig Braathen put that SAFE after his last name. It didn't mean safety but it made his airline's name look good and even made it lookn intriguing. It meant
S outh A merica and F ar E ast.
Huge fan of your videos!
🤔 Maybe next time you might even bother to watch it ,before making a comment !..
The first and only time I flew the F-28 was on Papua New Guinea’s flag carrier Air Niugini in 1997. It was an international South Pacific round trip flight from PNG’s capital Port Moresby to the capital of Solomon Islands Honiara and back. It was a pleasant surprise to fly on this early jet age aircraft having been used to flying on its contemporaries in the Philippine domestic and Asian regional flights in earlier decades: Caravelle, BAC-111, 737. Around this period, the Philippine Air Force operated an F-28 for VIP flights.
Living in the Pilbara region of Western Australia back in the 1970s-80s I often flew in these neat looking aircraft between Paraburdoo and Perth.However one flight was in a F28 belonging to Air Niugini which came as a bit of a surprise.I believe that MMA maintained these Air Niugini F28s at their Perth airport base.Interesting video,keep up the good work.
Very good run down on a good little airliner. I was surprised that you did not mention the large fleets that were operated in Indonesia with Garuda and Merpati amongst others though. All the best.
13:54 concorde in the background
It was always a pleasure to see the F28 at LHR. I used to love seeing the NLM CityHopper F28s but also the TAT operated jets as well. I am quite sure I also saw the Air Anglia PH-MOL, either at Aberdeen or at Norwich.
From 1979 to 1982, we spent a fortnight every August in Guernsey on our summer holidays. Being the young commercial aviation enthusiast that I was, I would often catch a bus to the airport and spend the afternoon watching the planes from the viewing deck on the terminal roof. I was always pleased with myself when I managed to see NLM Cityhopper's F28 either arrive or depart. At the time, it was the only jet aircraft allowed to fly to Guernsey. I believe it flew in from Eindhoven, not Amsterdam, although I could have false memory on that one. It looked so smart parked on the apron amongst the usual propeller visitors such as the Islander, Trislander, HP Herald, Vickers Viscount, F27, and HS748, which looked so old fashioned in comparison!
Awesome video as always! I treat myself to these every weekend...the matter-of-fact delivery is just so refreshing - no unnecessary drama of any kind. Thank you!!
I flew on a US Airways Fokker 100 jet. Nice plane trip.
Thanks for the work excellent work you do.
I take these to work every week in Australia. Alliance Airlines has a huge FIFO (Fly in/Fly out) business model and these suit the job perfectly. They do wet lease to Qantas and Virgin Australia. Qantas and Virgin have their own based in Western Australia for the FIFO mining contracts to fly workers in and back home.
The ones I fly on are ex American Airlines and Austrian Airlines and are around 30yrs+ in age.
Still a great aircraft to fly on, however my biggest complaint is the air conditioning. These birds are working in harsh and hot climates of the outback and more often than not in summer you are sweating mid flight. I read there was N optional 'tropic' pack when ordering for hotter regions with a better air conditioning unit. 😅
I think you may be confusing this with the later Fokker 70 and 100, which are still in service in Australia while the subject of this video, the Fokker F-28 is long retired in Oz.
Yes sorry, good and interesting story re Oz , but about the wrong plane my friend. Visually they are similar but as the previous commenter said, F28s were retired many, many years ago. In Europe it was chiefly engine noise regs that killed them off long before the airframes were finished, I’m not sure whether that was the case in Oz too. You’ll have to wait for the follow up film on the later F70 and F100 models!
Saskatoon Airport in Canada has a lot of decommissioned F28 just parked and bundled up at one point having 22 such aircraft, but slowly being scrapped or taken by private customers
I was tickled to see that Horizon Air plane near the end of the video. They're the only airline that flies in/out of my small regional airport. (These days they're owned by Alaska Airlines and the planes all wear the Alaska Airlines livery, and, yes, as you said, they're usually CRJs or Bombardiers.)
When QX operated the F28, they had their own livery and the F28 was used on their main trunk routes from Seattle and Portland to Boise and Spokane. The Dash 8 were used on other routes.
Good ol' Fokker. Funny to think the company I work for atm was founded by ex Fokker people who left wel before the collapse figuring out it was not going to last simply because of limited production capacity, how correct they where, though it took a bit longer i think than they expected.
I quite like this. Never heard of these planes before but it’s nice to know about how these planes were built. Can’t wait for Part 2 to come out.
I was introduced to the Fokker F28 with Piedmont Airlines in the 1980s. Did not know of the long history in research, development, engineering manufacturing and production in the mid 60s into the 70s. Do recall of deicing fatal accidents in Canada along with the USAir aircraft at LaGuardia.
Great vlog as always! I have worked both for Braathens SAFE (South American Far East Airtransport) and SAS. There was no wind at the time of the accident, only fog type clouds. When LN-SUO was scrapped in 2001 She had a TT of 45k and 90k cycles! Her first year was spent down under leased to MMA from BU. LF of Sweden looked to BU and bought three -1000 for del in 1973. After a while they met with Fokker and said we need a lager aircraft. Then the -4000 was born. They even bought a brand new aircraft from Fokker with no engines! That is a story for another time. Can you think of a more hostile place to fly than in the arctic and down under? One extreme to another. Fokker had a very good reputation. I loved this pocket rocket. It was a F-16 compared to the 737-200. BU flew as many as 16 cycles a day! If that is not a true work horse I do not know what is. Keep up the good work!
Good to see the Air Anglia F28 PH-MOL. It's funny that future incarnations of Air Anglia and NLM Cityhopper would merge their Fokker fleets in 2003.
Looking forward to part two covering the F28 Mk 100 and Mk 70, aka the F100 and F70.
The F100 was my first jet in my airline career, and I spent many hours observing on CofA and post maintenance flight tests on the KLM uk (formerly Air UK) fleet.
Very interesting thank you
Thank you Rory.
5:49 Oh, just lovely to see the Braathens S•A•F•E (LN-SUN) F28, and FBU airport mentioned… 👍
Another airliner that first flew just around my birth year. (there are several…), and the first large (well…) airport I visited.
The “SAFE” in Braathens was an acronym for “South American & Far East”. That business model certainly changed…
Fornebu Airport was our cramped national main hub until it closed in 1997. I lived nearby, and watched the kilometre long “train” of utility vehicles as they undertook the logistics move to the rebuilt ENGM (OSL).
I think the highway was closed down at night for the 45 km one-time leg for the tow trucks, rolling stairs, tankers and what not. These vehicles could of course not go outside of an airport lacking white registration plates. Bureaucrats…
Getting older, I guess, and the 1972 Braathens LN-SUY F28 disaster cast deep shadows…
Great work as always, mr McVeigh! 👍
Fellowship…better name if you don’t want jokes like..”I don’t want your fokking friendship, I want a aircraft to come pick me up !”
Apa kabar? Greetings from Indonesia!!!
Garuda Indonesia, my country's flag carrier, was the largest operator of this aircraft from 1971 until 2001
9:00 The Super F-28 retained the rear-engined layout of the F-28, with a lengthened F-28 fuselage. A later revision added a lower lobe to the fuselage. The F-29 had a new fuselage with a larger diameter, and moved to underwing engines.
The F100 looked pretty with the AA livery. They used them for a while though they were eventually withdrawn from service.
Nice video!
The first time i see it, its a beautiful aircraft. sadly its looks like not in airworthy condition. There were 2 Indonesian Airforce F28 sitting in apron at Halim Perdana Kusuma airport. hopefully they can preserve atleast one model in museum
When the makers of this jet aircraft made their initial presentation, they told the investors, " ladies and gentlemen, meet the Fokker!"
15:14 Look at that happy face!
Fokker did a proposal for the US Navy, to use the F-28 on aircraft carriers for COD, tanker, ELINT and AEW duties, replacing the Greyhound. This was to use the shortest fuselage variant with the larger wing, with new landing gear. They did landing tests on a US Navy base, but the Navy stuck with the C-2 in the end.
Fokker attempted to interet the US Navy in a variant F28 as a Carrier On Deck transporter to replace the Grumman Greyhound.
The fact that Fokker had to rely on other European Aerospace Manufacturers to develop & build aircraft...goes a long way to explain why they are no longer in business today.
Honestly though, it's a shame they never survived long enough to be consolidated into what is now Airbus. Had if happened, then that company would have obtained a A220 Sized Plan (the F100 that is) in the Early 2000s rather than in the Late 2010s.
Ah, good old Fokker.
I remember flying on this type aircraft on Piedmont. Very comparable to the DC-9
One single little problem that the F28 had from birth: the NOISE.
Yeah you can only hushkit a RR Spey so far! I remember early F28s coming in and out of my local airport Stansted in the 70’s, and before hush kits were fitted (in the early 80s ?) they were deafening, especially considering the tiny size of the engine. The next phase of EU noise restrictions (1992?) couldn’t be met by the hush-kitted Spey so the F28s (some of them barely a decade old) disappeared completely from uk skies.
Was it that much worse than other contemporary turbojet designs?
Really good video!
But the closed caption is not sync properly :)
Bangladesh Airlines operated both the Fokker F-27 and F-28.
Reminds me of an md80
I took a few flights in Burma Airways F28s back in mid 1980s. While they lost a few to assorted crashes it was a highly successful model otherwise.
Hello :D
Does it have any slats at the leading edge of its wing?
Garuda is the largest operator of F28, not Piedmont. Garuda operated 62 F28s at one time and also the launch customer of F28 Mk3000
The video of the fist flight is choppy like it jumps back a few frames.
Is that in the original video as well?
I noticed that too…
McDonnell Douglas: “Why need engine reliability for Death Cruiser 10X with Fokker, 2 engined aircraft partnership, when instead we can just keep 3 engine, and many engine can fail. Somebody, please-Think of the shareholders ” 😂
Virgin Australia still using the Fokker F28 100 seater in smaller Western Australian Airport's..
Rugged workhorses...
Leased from Alliance Airlines I believe.
hi :)
In the early 2000s there was an official NIMBY whinge by the Magnolia residents of Seattle. Complaining specifically about the noise of the F-28 over their poor little heads. I wrote a letter to The Seattle Times claiming any of these fragile snowflakes would board an F-28, regardless of the noise it inflicted on the proletariat, if it meant arriving at their destination.
20:00 The Dutch government used an F-28, PH-PBX for government and royal family services.
Didn’t one of them crash in Canada or something like that due to poor deicing??
Yes, Air Ontario Flight 1363 March 10, 1989.
Shitpole, Amsterdam Schipol, called Skipol, you know like School.
Bad experience with it in Dryden Ontario
Strange now mention of Air Ontario 1363