I used to travel to BHX especially to see the Maersk Air operated 1-11s in BA livery. Specifically for the noise. They used to hold them on the brakes, spool up to max and let them go, spitting flames and shaking the ground. Wonderful!
I had the immense joy of flying the Bac 1-11 in the late 1990s, my first jet and an absolutely magnificent aircraft. A true pilot's aircraft, we flew them on short regional service around Central America and Mexico. We operated out of GUA with two former AA -400. The memories will last a last a lifetime. Thanks for paying tribute to this great aircraft.
I remember a very low and, above all, very loud overflight of our holiday apartment on the North Sea island of Sylt in 1983. It was right in the approach path of Westerland Airport. After the decorative plates in the showcase had fallen over and we were able to communicate again, my father explained to my astonished face that this was now a Super One Eleven. I saw the machine descend behind the landing fire with its plume of black smoke. A wonderful sight. She is an unforgettable old lady. Loud and dirty. As it should be. Thanks for the great contribution! CLASSICS UP! MM (D/1970)
I had a BEA 'Airfix' model when I was 8 years old. I even hand-painted it. Living in Dublin, I could hear those distinctive RR engines as the Aer Lingus one elevens headed over to Heathrow.
I had the pleasure to fly on a 1-11 in June 1988, on a flight from Manchester to Ibiza. The carrier was Dan Air and it was my first ever flight. It was also the only time that I encountered rear stairs under the tail and rear-facing seats over the wing. I'm pleased to have had the opportunity to fly her.
I flew on one around the same time with Dan air, I remember we sat the left side at the rear by the engine. Remember my mom complaining about the noise and that they only served cold food. Still got a picture of the plane postcard from flight, found it out today
@@RobCLynch yes definitely how time flies.. I always remember this flight well as it was the only plane I ever flew with rear engine's. I wasn't sure if it was a 727 or not until I looked Dan air up last night, was was definitely the 1-11 and then when I found the flight postcard today. I would of been around 10 or 11 at the time
The fact that the 737 is the only one of the 5 still flying (or, really, even flying in the last 20-30 years) is probably the best demonstration of how the 737 MAX was a development too far...
Albeit that the 737 is a bit like the everlasting broom fitted with several new shafts and umpteen new brush heads! Apart from the fuselage, from the original, you have unrecognisable cockpit, new wings, new and repositioned engines, new tail and possibly more!
If it was, which I doubt. More like a victim of a very powerful and well-funded negative PR campaign organized by its competitors and carried out by the sensationalist media who knows a good way to sell headlines when they see it. Now the 737 will be remembered like the DC-10 as a horrid deathtrap, in spite of the lack of any good grounds to base it on.
I used to work for BEA, and took my first flight on a 1-11 from Manchester to London Heathrow, back in 1974. The schedule flight time was 45 minutes but often it could take much less. Today the schedule is 1 hour and 15 minutes - thats progress for you!
My first flight was a freebie, random tickets given out at a BEA open day for the newly formed Super 1/11 division based at Manchester Airport in 1973. It was a 20minute flight around Liverpool and we flew over Sefton Park, will never forget it. G-AVMT and remember it was Captain Ray Parkinson senior pilot for then BEA, will never forget the flight! Remember another pilot, he was a real old character, ex RAF pilot cpt, Arther Leslie French, known to his colleagues as ALF he was so amusing over the radio, he would also reply - B-line 825(Berlin to Manchester Airport) contact tower on 118.7gooday Alf always replied thanks radar 825! gooday! He used to travel from his Hale Barnes home to work on his bike! He retired in 1973.I remember another occasion when atc asked him if he wanted a straight in approach to which he replied thanks radar! Negative they are still on the prunes and custard !
I worked for British Caledonian Airways (BCal) back in the 70's and 80's and the 1-11 was used a lot by BCal for flights to Europe as well as within the UK itself. It was a truly fantastic aircraft which I personally flew on too many times to count (including 'Yankee uniform' seen in this video). It's very moving to see the old footage of the 1-11's in BCal's colours.
I flew on BCal 1-11's several times during the 70's and very early 80's. Don't recall ever having a negative experience. If I recall correctly, BCal had 3 different seating configurations for the 1-11's. There was a high density configuration used for holiday charter flights equipped for 'seat back' catering, a normal all Y configuration with a better seat pitch used for the scheduled services and a very small number of 1-11 aircraft (perhaps as little as 1 aircraft by the end) in a 2 class FY configuration which was used on that long route to West Aferica (LGW-LIS-CMN-LPA (night stop) -BJL-then on to somewhere else, don't recall where?) and also on the ALG route. This is the only time I have encountered a 1-11 with a dedicated F cabin; 2 rows 2 X 2 if I recall correctly. I know that for a VERY SHORT time in the early 70's (circa 1972) BCal experimented by configuring a number of 1-11's with dedicated F class cabins and offering F class on some short intra-European and UK domestic flights but quickly abandoned this idea and reverted to single class operation on the intra-European and domestic routes. This was of course in the days before C class existed. I travelled aboard this 2 class FY 1-11 aircraft from ALG to LGW in 1981 in F class. The boarding was a complete mess, not the fault of BCal I would add. Boarding was by bus via the rear steps and the handling agent ground staff, instead of tearing off part of the boarding cards and returning the rest to the passengers, took the entire boarding card leaving the passengers to board the aircraft with no boarding cards. The cabin crew had little choice but to tell the passengers to sit whereever they liked and in the F cabin carried out a physical ticket check to ensure that anybody trying to sit there actually held an F class ticket. I recall the full hot meal service aboard the all Y class domestic trunk route flights from LGW to EDI and GLA. Once, on a scheduled domestic flight from LGW to JER, a high density configuration aircraft normally used on charter flights was substituted. The cabin crew were so apologetic about the reduced seat pitch, making an announcement and apologising personally to passengers. I remember them telling us to push down the back of the seat in front of us to give us more room! I also flew LGW-LPA on a BCal VC10 in 1973. Excellent service in Y class. Good seat pitch, pillows, printed menu and a very nice hot meal. I was a teenager at the time and actually kept the menu. I can tell you that the starter was prawn and mandarin orange cocktail and the main course was pan fried chicken with small roast potatoes and seasonal vegetables.
Lovely. I was an apprentice starting in 1980. We'd regularly go staff travel on all the 1-11 routes. Full hot breakfast every morning flight. Even on LGW-JER! A few beers, some duty free, then back home in time for tea.
@@coastwisenewzealand670 Full hot breakfast on LGW-JER? Are you sure? Domestic flights on the LGW-EDI and GLA routes yes, JER I don't think so. There was never any meal service on LGW-JER; the sector time on this 161 mile 1-11 jet operated flight was too short.
The BAC 111 was the first jet I flew in. This was with Philippine Airlines (PAL) back in the early eighties. I remember during take off the sound of the howling RR spey engines.
This was the first jet aircraft I ever flew on back in the early 70s from Gatwick on British Caledonian. I remember being pushed back in my seat on take off and being amazed at how quickly we soared through the clouds - what a rush.
This used to be the plane of choice for tour operators. I can remember travelling on them each year for the family holiday abroad. Somewhere I have pictures of myself and my family leaving via the 'back stairs'. Probably Spain or Portugal. They used to take pictures and put them up for the return journey 2 weeks later, so one could buy them.
Late 70's... I flew on a BAC-111 Allegheny Airlines jet to Washington DC. It was a very early morning flight & the airplane was packed. A really great flight for sure!
I flew the BAC-111 Allegheny Airlines (also know as agonized airlines) Albany NY to Pittsburgh Pa in the late 80s. They came to Allegheny via Mohawk Airlines.in a merger.
I flew to Brussels in a BAC111 from Dublin. My Brother's Father-in-Law was Capt. Jack Read, Chief Training Pilot for Aer Lingus' 111s. I did a training detail with him in the BAC111 Simulator. Now, all Aer Lingus' Aircraft are named after saints, so they named the Sim , St. Thetic! St. Thetic still exists in a museum in Shannon.
I was a pilot of corporate 1-11’s as well as A and P mech. On them. How I loved flying that plane. A little underpowered but it still got us there. I miss those days.
I have a real soft spot for the 1-11. My first flight and foreign holiday summer of '68. BUA - Gatwick > Pula. Pula was a tiny undeveloped airdrome. We had to collect our own bags on the tarmac. The pilots let me enjoy most of the flight in the cockpit with them, they were very relaxed. My next holiday was taken on an early Caravelle a hand me down from Alitalia to SAM for package tours and cramped by comparison to the 1-11
This was the first aircraft I ever flew on, from "Le Touquet France" to London. In 1992, when I arrived in Lago Nigeria, my flight to Port-Harcourt was on a BAC 111 from a company named "Okada Air" at the time. I was amazed to witness these BAC 111 formed the bulk of the Nigerian Domestic airlines for passengers. There were a few Boeing 727, and odds and ends Tupolev 134; I flew then once a week to Lagos from Port-Harcourt and back until 1997, mainly on BAC 111, when the ADC airline crash occurred and my company lost seven employees. After that we only flew with our own chartered plane, a Twin Otter.
I flew of a BAC 111 in 1998, it was operated by the Royal Air Force of Oman. That plane had the acceleration of a Toyota. We took off out of Muscat bound for Salalah to the south, but couldn't turn directly south, a small mountain range lay a few miles from the field in that direction. Instead we made a wide sweeping turn to the north, gaining altitude in a cork screw before heading over the mountains. I tell you those engines were tired.
I grew up just a mile away from London Gatwick Airport in the 80s & Dan Air operated these aircraft along with British Airways & British Caledonian, the BAC 1-11 was one of the noisiest aircraft when taking off due to the military based Rolls Royce Spey engines, much louder than most larger aircraft, even 747s.
I presume you mean Crawley or maybe Horley. I worked at Gatwick in the 70's and 80's as a Load Controller for BCal. Absolutely best job I've ever had. Great airline, great people (apart from a certain 1-11 Captain Claire who was a nasty piece of work who delighted in treating anyone below him as though they were dirt. If I had time on my hands I'd find out where this wanker is now I'd teach this sissy little shit a lesson).
I went to school close to Stuttgart airport, West Germany. Any time there was a BAC 111 taking off the teacher stopped talking because he could not be heard anyway
Thanks for this video. This brought a lot of childhood memories. I used to fly this quite often on Philippine Airlines as a kid in the 70's and 80's, shuttling between Manila and our hometown Bacolod City. Flying time was only about an hour. This aircraft formed the backbone of Philippine Airlines' domestic fleet and operated as many as 13 BAC-1-11 500's until 1989. I recall PAL's variant had both front and rear air stairs. I also liked boarding from behind but hated sitting in the rear next to the engine because it was really noisy. It was a time when delicious hot meals were still served on very short flights and smoking was still allowed haha.
I flew an American Airlines BAC 111 back in the 60's as a kid, first flight I remember. lots of fun, they gave us plastic pilot wings to pin to our shirts.
I flew a corporate 1-11-401ak (ex American). It was a great airplane to fly. Maybe a little underpowered but still got us to where we wanted to go. As a matter of fact the one I flew, s/n 076 was the second 1-11 fitted with the Tay engine, but that project ended badly and I never got to fly it again. I miss that plane. Oh sure I’ve flow much better equipped and higher powered corporate aircraft, but there was just something about her that I loved. Thanks for the video.
I was with Braniff , we had many BAC-111 . Required a lot of maint. and sounded like a shuttle launch . They all were fairly old at that time and were being phased out as the A-320 was coming in . We got our first 320 and a mechanic was on the flight deck , I had to take a look . He did not know how to start a engine . We figured out APU , and read the start chart and got it going . Nice plane then .
You were with Braniff lll then. Those BACs were operated by Florida Express, if I remember correctly, and the A320 you guys got were originally a Pan Am order that never got taken up. I was with Pan Am till the end, wonder if I would have gotten to fly the bus?
Actually the BAC1-11 was originally the Vickers VC11 when Vickers was mashed into the British Aircraft Corporation BAC grabbed the Vickers VC11 as the BAC1- with the11 added as a nod to the original VC-11 hence the designation BAC1-11.
Very good! I flew on an Allegheny Airlines BAC-111 once. It was a good trip! And, it was the only airliner that I ever flew on that had oval-shaped windows.
My dad was a pilot for American Airlines from 1965 to 1995. He said the BAc 111 wass one of his favorite planes to fly. He said each one flew different because they were made by hand in the British tradition.
The One Eleven was a fun jet to fly in. But those RR Spey engines were exceptionally loud. You could always tell when the 0700 Mohawk to LGA was taking off from BUF
My first flight on an aircraft, Dan Air out of Luton. I remember watching the British Airways BAC 1-11 operating out of Birmingham International in the UK, they were a regular sight. They were nicknamed "Crop Sprayers" by local residents because of the pollutants from the Spays on take off.
Hey. I too flew on a Dan Air out of Luton to Salzburg on a skiing trip from school, I also flew on a Ryanair one from Stansted to Knock when my mother & I took my nan back to Ireland before she passed. I am actally a Brummie too and spent lots of time in the 'Cabbage Patch' at BHX, I rememer the 1-11's that used to operate out of the old Eurohub, now T2. Good ol' days.
My second ever plane journey was on a 1-11, on a Dan Air charter to France. First ever flight was Heathrow to Glasgow on a BEA Vanguard (back in the 1960s).
I loved the sound of these aircraft at start up. Very distinctive noise from the constant speed drive starter (CSDS) which used an air driven motor (rather like a supercharger in reverse) to turn the constant speed drive of the generator which in turn rotated the engine. I spent many years working on the 1-11 as an engineer and it must qualify as the easiest one to work within some areas of the fuel tanks, remove fixed leading edge from the wing, unbolt front spar panels and you're in. Far easier than manholes underneath.
As a Manc in my late fifties, the BAC 1-11 was part of my adolescence. Good plane, but God it was noisy on takeoff from Manchester airport!!!! Just found this channel...very good! 👌👌🇬🇧🇬🇧😆
A good friend of my parents, Claude Castonguay, was a Captain on the BAC 1-11 for Quebecair in the late 60's and 70's. He showed me the cockpit in details between two flights !
Thank you Sky for another excellent video. But I think your marathon on the early small jet airlines can't be finished without the Dassault Mercure - one of the weirdest and most interesting projects in that market!
Many of the Aircraft were built at Hurn (Now Bournemouth International Airport), some 10 miles East of where I lived at Poole - the noise of the test-bed engines being wound up was phenomenal even at that great distance, so many of the locals were not that put-out when production ended. Lovely plane in the air.
The last two BAC111 aircraft ever built were sold to two Saudi owners, who installed brand new executive interiors into these two jets, before they could be placed into airline service. Both aircraft had fourteen-seat interiors installed, and had the cargo space mostly filled with auxiliary fuel tanks. When they were ready for service, I was in charge of chartering these aircraft to many interesting fliers. The aircraft was strong, beautifully-designed, fast and used Rolls-Royce Spey engines. One user was an Italian Count, who used the aircraft to fly to the European leg of the Formula One season, back in 1987. All charterers had to pay before flying, and the test flight I flew on included a vast amount of extremely costly catering. The client loved and booked the aircraft, but had us fly him on a short distance, from Nice to Geneva, before we returned to our home base, Luton Airport. We parked at the airport, left the door closed, and had a party! I don’t know what became of these two beautiful aircraft. Given the age of the design, this was a staggering technological aircraft.
I always enjoy your take on the airplanes. In commercial aviation you not only focus on the technical aspects but the economic ones which have a major influence in how the aircraft are designed and what flies.
244 birds made...not bad for a British made jet at all. the VC10 deserved a better run thant it got. BOAC made sure it would fail so they could buy up on Boeing 707s. The BAC-111 speys had a real turbojet abnoxious whine for a turbofan engine. The bypass was ridiculously small even for it's day so the sounds it made were lovely, rich, deafening scream LOL.
I remember reading a quote from a Braniff engineer who said, “you couldn’t hardly hurt a BAC 111, they were made so tough.” Britt Airways had several hush-kitted ships that I flew on from Champaign to Chicago in the early 80’s. Thanks for posting this piece.
The Rolls Royce engines were so loud that an technically complex silencing system was later required, an acoustically-lined jet pipe with an eight lobe nozzle and an ejector cowl that would move for and aft.
A good video : I travelled on what must have been the longest BAC 111 Route. British United from London Gatwick to Lisbon (Pt) night stop in Las Palmas then Banjul (Gambia) Freetown (Sierra Leone) terminating in Accra Ghana. A momentous flight with a free Hotel in the Canary islands (Las Palmas) I was 14 years old what an experience!
I flew on one in about 2000. It was a replacement for a Ryanair flight. It was in vip charter fit with 2 2. It was an awesome flight as I loved the type as a kid.
Philippine Airlines flew many of these with 400 and 500 variants. I grew up with these 2 variants from Manila to Cebu vise versa and Manila to Bacolod (old airport) vise versa every year. Very memorable is the sound of spooling up the RR spey engines and the takeoff would really push you into the seats unlike the Airbus they used today. They gain altitude really slow when they flew low overhead our house with very loud engines unlike newer planes today that you hardly noticed when they took off already high over the house.
I used to work on the 3 BAC1-11’s series 485 that the Sultan of Oman Airforce used to operate from ‘78 to ‘86. They were combi’s with a forward cargo door. Great days. I was in my early 20’s then and now I’m retired, where did all those years go to.
They flew to Visayas and Mindanao. Loved flying in them relatively quiet inside but terribly noisy outside. Louder than even the DC-8 or 707. Flew for the last time in 90s to be replaced by the quieter and more efficient 737-300 and later the A320.
They flew to Visayas and Mindanao islands in the Philippines. Loved riding in them. Relatively quiet on the inside but terribly noisy outside. They last flew in the Philippines in the 90s to be replaced by the more efficient 737-300 and later the A320.
The best variant was the 475 series, 400 fuselage & 500 wings & tail, same rate of roll as a lightning if you used the spoilers for turns. The most fun aircraft I ever flew. It was also extremely robust thanks in particular to the solid spar wing.
Same roll rate as a Lightning at what speed? Lightnings roll rate varies widely depending on whether you are going .5 Mach or Mach 1.2 or Mach 2. Although at no speed is it a very nimble or fast rolling fighter. it is a straight line screamer, period. Which is good, because if you tried to roll an airliner with a wingspan of 90 feet at the same rate as a fighter with a wingspan of 34 feet, the wingtips would need to accelerate to several times the speed, at several times the rate of acceleration, and then decellerate at the same rate. All at the end of a long, fragile wing structure. there is a reason an F-16 can snap around in a fast roll, while large jets fly in nice gentle maneuvers. No doubt someone doing some experiments or just some math once figured out that in theory a 111 could roll at the same rate as a Lightning fighter, but that doesn't mean you can actually fly it like a fighter.
@@justforever96 our fleet manager was an ex lightning jock and he commented on the similarities of the 475 series to the lightning. All I can say is that if you cracked the spoilers during a turn, not only would it grab your attention but ut was masses of fun too.
I remember flying on a BAC 111 of Quebec Air from Montreal to Toronto in the 1980's. It was an afternoon flight and I will never forget that the flight attendants came through the cabin pushing a trolley offering complimentary wine and cheese service! I can still remember the blue cheese on crackers I had washed down with red wine! Of course I had savored other cheeses and wine as well on this flight. This was on a flight under one hour! The other thing that I remember from that flight was the very shallow takeoff profile of the jet. On takeoff it didn't feel like it was climbing nearly fast enough and I was really concerned! Was this jet going to get off the ground! Once it got off the ground the inflight service more than made up for these concerns.
A very well done documentation. Many thanks. I watched it with a lot of interest. A very nice plane - I had the pleasure to travel in 2001 in the ROMBAC version from Aswan to Abu Simbel and back. At that time already a classic and a the flight was a very nice experience. It made me very sad that this aircraft was retired only a few months after the flight.
The engine shown at about 5:15 is a RR Spey but not the one fitted to the BAC 111. It is the 25R fitted to the British McDonnell Douglas FGR2 Phantom. It'd be interesting to see what the 111 did with two of those fitted :-D
Plane spotting in the 70's at Birmingham airport seeing these parked up nose in at the terminal made want a career in aviation. Plus all gorgeous stewardess at the check in desks! 15k hours flying later where have those days gone.
A BAC-111-500 was the first jet I flew in as a kid during the mid-1970s on a domestic flight in the Philippines. The flag carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL) flew this type from the late 1960s up to the early 1990s on domestic and regional (to Hong Kong, Taipei, Saigon) flights. When it was being phased out gradually, I flew it for the last time in the early 1990s when it served as alternate aircraft for a flight regularly served by PAL's then newly introduced Boeing 737-300s. Flying the Super One-Eleven gave birth to the aviation enthusiast in me.
i have fond memories as a youngster in the 70's and 80's, plane-spotting at Ringway (Manchester International Airport). The noise from the 1-11's and Tridents was unbelievable and even after they fitted hush-kits to the 1-11's they were still deafening by today's standards.
Use to fly in these from Gatwick to Glasgow in the early 80s & it was very exciting as I hadn’t flown since 1965 when I returned from Africa in a VC10. Flying regularly since the 90s 111s now look somewhat dated
Darn it! I was hoping for at least one short clip of a Mohawk Airlines B.A.C.-111. Allegheny, USAir and American Airlines would have been good too. Such great memories of late childhood and teen years in Upstate New York's Rochester. Those Spey engines, though, were absolute ear killers! I remember getting temporary hearing threshold shifts on Brooks Avenue at Abbott's Frozen Custard standing under them on short final.
First plane I ever flew on of European air charter to Italy in 1995.. I still have the boarding passes from all that time ago with Sunshare vacations. I managed to route through the history of flights from Gatwick Airport back then and I'm pretty sure the registration of the one I flew on was G-AYOP on the outward flight to Brindisi.
Oh it was great to see G-WLAD the Manx Airlines BAC 1-11 from the mid 80’s . I use to live on one of the flight paths for Bristol Airport , As a small child I hated the noise of the RR Spey Engines and was glad that the 146 Whisper Jet’s were built . However I do respect what the 1-11 did for British regional jet transport.
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The very first plane i've flown on ! It was between Marseilles (Provence french countryside) and London Gatwick. To go to Dubaï... It was on October1988 ! On business class !
Whatever it was, I know it mainly for still hearing it 5 minutes later and setting off car alarms for miles. Not sure If it was a variant thing but the school had to stop teaching for a good 30 seconds to let the plane pass. They got hush kits eventually.
I don't know who calls it that. BAC is called "B-A-C", so I always called it the B-A-C-1-11. The only person who would call it the Back would be someone who was totally ignorant of the organization called BAC. Which no doubt could apply to many Americans.
@@justforever96 Sheesh. Everyone who ever flew or worked it that I knew from Braniff and Mohawk/Allegheny/USAir pronounced it “Bach” 1-11. Might be funny to those in the UK, but so is calling a DC-3/C-47 “Dakota” to Americans.
I used to fly between Dublin (Ireland ) and Manchester (UK) in the 70s . It was always a British Airways BAC1-11 . I remember coming into land over the Pennines Mountains the aircraft would fall 100s of feet which gave the stomach a sickly feeling . It was very noisy on the outside when they came into land or took off .
Flew on a 400 model through Memphis, Nashville, and Chattanooga to Knoxville in 1965. Maneuverable, noisy, but fun. American airlines renamed it the Astrojet 400.
Great vlog as always! You forgot to mention that Howard Huges and TWA wanted to buy the 1-11 to compete with AAs 1-11 and UA Caravelles. I can not remember the numbers, to exact, but I will make my point. Let us say he wanted 50 1-11s and he wanted then in two yrs. BAC said that high of a number would take at least four years! TWA bought the DC-9 instead...
I am glad you mentioned the proposed 700 & 800. I have a mid 1970s copy of "Aviation& Marine" magazine with an item about them. The only thing you missed was the Tay conversion of 475/500 which made them quieter & more economic. Shame that was not promoted, as it clashed with the then new 146.
I used to travel to BHX especially to see the Maersk Air operated 1-11s in BA livery. Specifically for the noise. They used to hold them on the brakes, spool up to max and let them go, spitting flames and shaking the ground. Wonderful!
I had the immense joy of flying the Bac 1-11 in the late 1990s, my first jet and an absolutely magnificent aircraft. A true pilot's aircraft, we flew them on short regional service around Central America and Mexico. We operated out of GUA with two former AA -400. The memories will last a last a lifetime. Thanks for paying tribute to this great aircraft.
I remember a very low and, above all, very loud overflight of our holiday apartment on the North Sea island of Sylt in 1983. It was right in the approach path of Westerland Airport. After the decorative plates in the showcase had fallen over and we were able to communicate again, my father explained to my astonished face that this was now a Super One Eleven. I saw the machine descend behind the landing fire with its plume of black smoke. A wonderful sight. She is an unforgettable old lady. Loud and dirty. As it should be.
Thanks for the great contribution! CLASSICS UP! MM (D/1970)
I had a BEA 'Airfix' model when I was 8 years old. I even hand-painted it. Living in Dublin, I could hear those distinctive RR engines as the Aer Lingus one elevens headed over to Heathrow.
I had the pleasure to fly on a 1-11 in June 1988, on a flight from Manchester to Ibiza. The carrier was Dan Air and it was my first ever flight. It was also the only time that I encountered rear stairs under the tail and rear-facing seats over the wing. I'm pleased to have had the opportunity to fly her.
I flew on one around the same time with Dan air, I remember we sat the left side at the rear by the engine. Remember my mom complaining about the noise and that they only served cold food. Still got a picture of the plane postcard from flight, found it out today
@@bigend07 it makes you realise how special those times were, though we may have taken them for granted back in the day.
@@RobCLynch yes definitely how time flies.. I always remember this flight well as it was the only plane I ever flew with rear engine's. I wasn't sure if it was a 727 or not until I looked Dan air up last night, was was definitely the 1-11 and then when I found the flight postcard today. I would of been around 10 or 11 at the time
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The fact that the 737 is the only one of the 5 still flying (or, really, even flying in the last 20-30 years) is probably the best demonstration of how the 737 MAX was a development too far...
Somehow like the Lada Niva, old concept in modern times, but as we know, airplanes are more complex than a dedicated 4x4.
Albeit that the 737 is a bit like the everlasting broom fitted with several new shafts and umpteen new brush heads!
Apart from the fuselage, from the original, you have unrecognisable cockpit, new wings, new and repositioned engines, new tail and possibly more!
If it was, which I doubt. More like a victim of a very powerful and well-funded negative PR campaign organized by its competitors and carried out by the sensationalist media who knows a good way to sell headlines when they see it. Now the 737 will be remembered like the DC-10 as a horrid deathtrap, in spite of the lack of any good grounds to base it on.
There are still quite a few DC-9s flying, mainly for cargo.
@@aviationlba747and B717s
I used to work for BEA, and took my first flight on a 1-11 from Manchester to London Heathrow, back in 1974. The schedule flight time was 45 minutes but often it could take much less. Today the schedule is 1 hour and 15 minutes - thats progress for you!
My first flight was a freebie, random tickets given out at a BEA open day for the newly formed Super 1/11 division based at Manchester Airport in 1973. It was a 20minute flight around Liverpool and we flew over Sefton Park, will never forget it. G-AVMT and remember it was Captain Ray Parkinson senior pilot for then BEA, will never forget the flight! Remember another pilot, he was a real old character, ex RAF pilot cpt, Arther Leslie French, known to his colleagues as ALF he was so amusing over the radio, he would also reply - B-line 825(Berlin to Manchester Airport) contact tower on 118.7gooday Alf always replied thanks radar 825! gooday! He used to travel from his Hale Barnes home to work on his bike! He retired in 1973.I remember another occasion when atc asked him if he wanted a straight in approach to which he replied thanks radar! Negative they are still on the prunes and custard !
I worked for British Caledonian Airways (BCal) back in the 70's and 80's and the 1-11 was used a lot by BCal for flights to Europe as well as within the UK itself. It was a truly fantastic aircraft which I personally flew on too many times to count (including 'Yankee uniform' seen in this video). It's very moving to see the old footage of the 1-11's in BCal's colours.
I flew on BCal 1-11's several times during the 70's and very early 80's. Don't recall ever having a negative experience. If I recall correctly, BCal had 3 different seating configurations for the 1-11's. There was a high density configuration used for holiday charter flights equipped for 'seat back' catering, a normal all Y configuration with a better seat pitch used for the scheduled services and a very small number of 1-11 aircraft (perhaps as little as 1 aircraft by the end) in a 2 class FY configuration which was used on that long route to West Aferica (LGW-LIS-CMN-LPA (night stop) -BJL-then on to somewhere else, don't recall where?) and also on the ALG route. This is the only time I have encountered a 1-11 with a dedicated F cabin; 2 rows 2 X 2 if I recall correctly. I know that for a VERY SHORT time in the early 70's (circa 1972) BCal experimented by configuring a number of 1-11's with dedicated F class cabins and offering F class on some short intra-European and UK domestic flights but quickly abandoned this idea and reverted to single class operation on the intra-European and domestic routes. This was of course in the days before C class existed.
I travelled aboard this 2 class FY 1-11 aircraft from ALG to LGW in 1981 in F class. The boarding was a complete mess, not the fault of BCal I would add. Boarding was by bus via the rear steps and the handling agent ground staff, instead of tearing off part of the boarding cards and returning the rest to the passengers, took the entire boarding card leaving the passengers to board the aircraft with no boarding cards. The cabin crew had little choice but to tell the passengers to sit whereever they liked and in the F cabin carried out a physical ticket check to ensure that anybody trying to sit there actually held an F class ticket.
I recall the full hot meal service aboard the all Y class domestic trunk route flights from LGW to EDI and GLA. Once, on a scheduled domestic flight from LGW to JER, a high density configuration aircraft normally used on charter flights was substituted. The cabin crew were so apologetic about the reduced seat pitch, making an announcement and apologising personally to passengers. I remember them telling us to push down the back of the seat in front of us to give us more room!
I also flew LGW-LPA on a BCal VC10 in 1973. Excellent service in Y class. Good seat pitch, pillows, printed menu and a very nice hot meal. I was a teenager at the time and actually kept the menu. I can tell you that the starter was prawn and mandarin orange cocktail and the main course was pan fried chicken with small roast potatoes and seasonal vegetables.
Lovely. I was an apprentice starting in 1980. We'd regularly go staff travel on all the 1-11 routes. Full hot breakfast every morning flight. Even on LGW-JER! A few beers, some duty free, then back home in time for tea.
@@coastwisenewzealand670 Full hot breakfast on LGW-JER? Are you sure? Domestic flights on the LGW-EDI and GLA routes yes, JER I don't think so. There was never any meal service on LGW-JER; the sector time on this 161 mile 1-11 jet operated flight was too short.
The BAC 111 was the first jet I flew in. This was with Philippine Airlines (PAL) back in the early eighties. I remember during take off the sound of the howling RR spey engines.
This was the first jet aircraft I ever flew on back in the early 70s from Gatwick on British Caledonian. I remember being pushed back in my seat on take off and being amazed at how quickly we soared through the clouds - what a rush.
This used to be the plane of choice for tour operators. I can remember travelling on them each year for the family holiday abroad. Somewhere I have pictures of myself and my family leaving via the 'back stairs'. Probably Spain or Portugal. They used to take pictures and put them up for the return journey 2 weeks later, so one could buy them.
My first ever flight was a Dan Air BAC1-11 (1973) .... remember entering/exiting via that tail stairway. This brought back memories. Great video
Late 70's... I flew on a BAC-111 Allegheny Airlines jet to Washington DC. It was a very early morning flight & the airplane was packed. A really great flight for sure!
I flew the BAC-111 Allegheny Airlines (also know as agonized airlines) Albany NY to Pittsburgh Pa in the late 80s. They came to Allegheny via Mohawk Airlines.in a merger.
When I was 12 my first airline flight was on a Convair 580 from Saginaw MI to Detroit where I flew on a BAC-111 to Albany NY on Mohawk.
I flew to Brussels in a BAC111 from Dublin. My Brother's Father-in-Law was Capt. Jack Read, Chief Training Pilot for Aer Lingus' 111s. I did a training detail with him in the BAC111 Simulator. Now, all Aer Lingus' Aircraft are named after saints, so they named the Sim , St. Thetic! St. Thetic still exists in a museum in Shannon.
I was a pilot of corporate 1-11’s as well as A and P mech. On them. How I loved flying that plane. A little underpowered but it still got us there. I miss those days.
I have a real soft spot for the 1-11. My first flight and foreign holiday summer of '68. BUA - Gatwick > Pula. Pula was a tiny undeveloped airdrome. We had to collect our own bags on the tarmac. The pilots let me enjoy most of the flight in the cockpit with them, they were very relaxed. My next holiday was taken on an early Caravelle a hand me down from Alitalia to SAM for package tours and cramped by comparison to the 1-11
This was the first aircraft I ever flew on, from "Le Touquet France" to London.
In 1992, when I arrived in Lago Nigeria, my flight to Port-Harcourt was on a BAC 111 from a company named "Okada Air" at the time. I was amazed to witness these BAC 111 formed the bulk of the Nigerian Domestic airlines for passengers. There were a few Boeing 727, and odds and ends Tupolev 134;
I flew then once a week to Lagos from Port-Harcourt and back until 1997, mainly on BAC 111, when the ADC airline crash occurred and my company lost seven employees. After that we only flew with our own chartered plane, a Twin Otter.
My Dad and I plane spotted these at Buffalo Airport under the Allegheny Airlines livery when I was a kid. They were the loudest jets on takeoff.
I flew of a BAC 111 in 1998, it was operated by the Royal Air Force of Oman. That plane had the acceleration of a Toyota. We took off out of Muscat bound for Salalah to the south, but couldn't turn directly south, a small mountain range lay a few miles from the field in that direction. Instead we made a wide sweeping turn to the north, gaining altitude in a cork screw before heading over the mountains. I tell you those engines were tired.
Brings back old memories. The series 500 was a beauty.
I grew up just a mile away from London Gatwick Airport in the 80s & Dan Air operated these aircraft along with British Airways & British Caledonian, the BAC 1-11 was one of the noisiest aircraft when taking off due to the military based Rolls Royce Spey engines, much louder than most larger aircraft, even 747s.
I presume you mean Crawley or maybe Horley. I worked at Gatwick in the 70's and 80's as a Load Controller for BCal. Absolutely best job I've ever had. Great airline, great people (apart from a certain 1-11 Captain Claire who was a nasty piece of work who delighted in treating anyone below him as though they were dirt. If I had time on my hands I'd find out where this wanker is now I'd teach this sissy little shit a lesson).
"It's time to end our series about short range old jet airliners"
Fokker 28: Am I a joke to you?
Too many fokken pun possibilities. It takes sky a while to plan.
Yes, you are.
@@RonJohn63 That's why they build the improved Fokker 100 afterwards
@@anotheruser9876 Ahh, good old Fokker fault balls.....
Not to mention the Hawker-Siddeley Trident!?
I went to school close to Stuttgart airport, West Germany. Any time there was a BAC 111 taking off the teacher stopped talking because he could not be heard anyway
Thanks for this video. This brought a lot of childhood memories. I used to fly this quite often on Philippine Airlines as a kid in the 70's and 80's, shuttling between Manila and our hometown Bacolod City. Flying time was only about an hour. This aircraft formed the backbone of Philippine Airlines' domestic fleet and operated as many as 13 BAC-1-11 500's until 1989. I recall PAL's variant had both front and rear air stairs. I also liked boarding from behind but hated sitting in the rear next to the engine because it was really noisy. It was a time when delicious hot meals were still served on very short flights and smoking was still allowed haha.
I flew an American Airlines BAC 111 back in the 60's as a kid, first flight I remember. lots of fun, they gave us plastic pilot wings to pin to our shirts.
I flew a corporate 1-11-401ak (ex American). It was a great airplane to fly. Maybe a little underpowered but still got us to where we wanted to go. As a matter of fact the one I flew, s/n 076 was the second 1-11 fitted with the Tay engine, but that project ended badly and I never got to fly it again.
I miss that plane. Oh sure I’ve flow much better equipped and higher powered corporate aircraft, but there was just something about her that I loved.
Thanks for the video.
I was with Braniff , we had many BAC-111 . Required a lot of maint. and sounded like a shuttle launch . They all were fairly old at that time and were being phased out as the A-320 was coming in . We got our first 320 and a mechanic was on the flight deck , I had to take a look . He did not know how to start a engine . We figured out APU , and read the start chart and got it going . Nice plane then .
You were with Braniff lll then. Those BACs were operated by Florida Express, if I remember correctly, and the A320 you guys got were originally a Pan Am order that never got taken up. I was with Pan Am till the end, wonder if I would have gotten to fly the bus?
Last time I flew on a BAC-111 was from Bucharest to Frankfurt in 1996. These were great airplanes.
Actually the BAC1-11 was originally the Vickers VC11 when Vickers was mashed into the British Aircraft Corporation BAC grabbed the Vickers VC11 as the BAC1- with the11 added as a nod to the original VC-11 hence the designation BAC1-11.
Very good! I flew on an Allegheny Airlines BAC-111 once. It was a good trip! And, it was the only airliner that I ever flew on that had oval-shaped windows.
All Leg Honey, those were the days!
My dad was a pilot for American Airlines from 1965 to 1995. He said the BAc 111 wass one of his favorite planes to fly. He said each one flew different because they were made by hand in the British tradition.
The One Eleven was a fun jet to fly in. But those RR Spey engines were exceptionally loud. You could always tell when the 0700 Mohawk to LGA was taking off from BUF
Still remember seeing a Mohawk one-eleven on the way to school some sixty years ago
My first flight on an aircraft, Dan Air out of Luton. I remember watching the British Airways BAC 1-11 operating out of Birmingham International in the UK, they were a regular sight. They were nicknamed "Crop Sprayers" by local residents because of the pollutants from the Spays on take off.
Hey. I too flew on a Dan Air out of Luton to Salzburg on a skiing trip from school, I also flew on a Ryanair one from Stansted to Knock when my mother & I took my nan back to Ireland before she passed. I am actally a Brummie too and spent lots of time in the 'Cabbage Patch' at BHX, I rememer the 1-11's that used to operate out of the old Eurohub, now T2. Good ol' days.
My first flight was on a BAC 1-11 in 1982. School skiing holiday. Dan Air Luton to Geneva.
My second ever plane journey was on a 1-11, on a Dan Air charter to France. First ever flight was Heathrow to Glasgow on a BEA Vanguard (back in the 1960s).
I loved the sound of these aircraft at start up. Very distinctive noise from the constant speed drive starter (CSDS) which used an air driven motor (rather like a supercharger in reverse) to turn the constant speed drive of the generator which in turn rotated the engine. I spent many years working on the 1-11 as an engineer and it must qualify as the easiest one to work within some areas of the fuel tanks, remove fixed leading edge from the wing, unbolt front spar panels and you're in. Far easier than manholes underneath.
As a Manc in my late fifties, the BAC 1-11 was part of my adolescence. Good plane, but God it was noisy on takeoff from Manchester airport!!!! Just found this channel...very good! 👌👌🇬🇧🇬🇧😆
A good friend of my parents, Claude Castonguay, was a Captain on the BAC 1-11 for Quebecair in the late 60's and 70's. He showed me the cockpit in details between two flights !
Beautiful presentation! Takes me back down memory lane. I had so many flights in these...
Thank you Sky for another excellent video. But I think your marathon on the early small jet airlines can't be finished without the Dassault Mercure - one of the weirdest and most interesting projects in that market!
Many of the Aircraft were built at Hurn (Now Bournemouth International Airport), some 10 miles East of where I lived at Poole - the noise of the test-bed engines being wound up was phenomenal even at that great distance, so many of the locals were not that put-out when production ended. Lovely plane in the air.
The last two BAC111 aircraft ever built were sold to two Saudi owners, who installed brand new executive interiors into these two jets, before they could be placed into airline service. Both aircraft had fourteen-seat interiors installed, and had the cargo space mostly filled with auxiliary fuel tanks. When they were ready for service, I was in charge of chartering these aircraft to many interesting fliers. The aircraft was strong, beautifully-designed, fast and used Rolls-Royce Spey engines. One user was an Italian Count, who used the aircraft to fly to the European leg of the Formula One season, back in 1987. All charterers had to pay before flying, and the test flight I flew on included a vast amount of extremely costly catering. The client loved and booked the aircraft, but had us fly him on a short distance, from Nice to Geneva, before we returned to our home base, Luton Airport. We parked at the airport, left the door closed, and had a party! I don’t know what became of these two beautiful aircraft. Given the age of the design, this was a staggering technological aircraft.
I always enjoy your take on the airplanes. In commercial aviation you not only focus on the technical aspects but the economic ones which have a major influence in how the aircraft are designed and what flies.
Fabulous series overall, some wonderful footage there, brings back fond memories of the the past, in my plane spotting days (1969/70). Thanks so much!
It was truly a beautiful plane. It was a great comparison to the DC-9.
244 birds made...not bad for a British made jet at all. the VC10 deserved a better run thant it got. BOAC made sure it would fail so they could buy up on Boeing 707s. The BAC-111 speys had a real turbojet abnoxious whine for a turbofan engine. The bypass was ridiculously small even for it's day so the sounds it made were lovely, rich, deafening scream LOL.
I remember reading a quote from a Braniff engineer who said, “you couldn’t hardly hurt a BAC 111, they were made so tough.”
Britt Airways had several hush-kitted ships that I flew on from Champaign to Chicago in the early 80’s.
Thanks for posting this piece.
The Rolls Royce engines were so loud that an technically complex silencing system was later required, an acoustically-lined jet pipe with an eight lobe nozzle and an ejector cowl that would move for and aft.
Brings back my childhood memory..... I flew on British Airways BAC 111 back in 1990.... :)
A good video : I travelled on what must have been the longest BAC 111 Route. British United from London Gatwick to Lisbon (Pt) night stop in Las Palmas then Banjul (Gambia) Freetown (Sierra Leone) terminating in Accra Ghana. A momentous flight with a free Hotel in the Canary islands (Las Palmas) I was 14 years old what an experience!
I flew on one in about 2000. It was a replacement for a Ryanair flight. It was in vip charter fit with 2 2. It was an awesome flight as I loved the type as a kid.
Philippine Airlines flew many of these with 400 and 500 variants. I grew up with these 2 variants from Manila to Cebu vise versa and Manila to Bacolod (old airport) vise versa every year. Very memorable is the sound of spooling up the RR spey engines and the takeoff would really push you into the seats unlike the Airbus they used today. They gain altitude really slow when they flew low overhead our house with very loud engines unlike newer planes today that you hardly noticed when they took off already high over the house.
I used to work on the 3 BAC1-11’s series 485 that the Sultan of Oman Airforce used to operate from ‘78 to ‘86. They were combi’s with a forward cargo door. Great days. I was in my early 20’s then and now I’m retired, where did all those years go to.
i remember riding the BAC 111 in the mid 80’s with philippine airlines...
They flew to Visayas and Mindanao. Loved flying in them relatively quiet inside but terribly noisy outside. Louder than even the DC-8 or 707. Flew for the last time in 90s to be replaced by the quieter and more efficient 737-300 and later the A320.
They flew to Visayas and Mindanao islands in the Philippines. Loved riding in them. Relatively quiet on the inside but terribly noisy outside. They last flew in the Philippines in the 90s to be replaced by the more efficient 737-300 and later the A320.
Filipinos Loved hijacking them tho lol
The best variant was the 475 series, 400 fuselage & 500 wings & tail, same rate of roll as a lightning if you used the spoilers for turns. The most fun aircraft I ever flew. It was also extremely robust thanks in particular to the solid spar wing.
Same roll rate as a Lightning at what speed? Lightnings roll rate varies widely depending on whether you are going .5 Mach or Mach 1.2 or Mach 2. Although at no speed is it a very nimble or fast rolling fighter. it is a straight line screamer, period. Which is good, because if you tried to roll an airliner with a wingspan of 90 feet at the same rate as a fighter with a wingspan of 34 feet, the wingtips would need to accelerate to several times the speed, at several times the rate of acceleration, and then decellerate at the same rate. All at the end of a long, fragile wing structure. there is a reason an F-16 can snap around in a fast roll, while large jets fly in nice gentle maneuvers. No doubt someone doing some experiments or just some math once figured out that in theory a 111 could roll at the same rate as a Lightning fighter, but that doesn't mean you can actually fly it like a fighter.
@@justforever96 our fleet manager was an ex lightning jock and he commented on the similarities of the 475 series to the lightning. All I can say is that if you cracked the spoilers during a turn, not only would it grab your attention but ut was masses of fun too.
475 was designed for rough runways or grass aerodromes
I remember flying on a BAC 111 of Quebec Air from Montreal to Toronto in the 1980's. It was an afternoon flight and I will never forget that the flight attendants came through the cabin pushing a trolley offering complimentary wine and cheese service! I can still remember the blue cheese on crackers I had washed down with red wine! Of course I had savored other cheeses and wine as well on this flight.
This was on a flight under one hour!
The other thing that I remember from that flight was the very shallow takeoff profile of the jet. On takeoff it didn't feel like it was climbing nearly fast enough and I was really concerned! Was this jet going to get off the ground!
Once it got off the ground the inflight service more than made up for these concerns.
A very well done documentation. Many thanks. I watched it with a lot of interest. A very nice plane - I had the pleasure to travel in 2001 in the ROMBAC version from Aswan to Abu Simbel and back. At that time already a classic and a the flight was a very nice experience. It made me very sad that this aircraft was retired only a few months after the flight.
Thanks for such a thorough overview. They were a famous source of employment for some in Bournemouth, where I lived.
When in doubt, show lots of old film of pretty stewardesses... :D
Works for me!
When men were men and women were glad of it !!!
Weight, age and appearance limits.
LONG gone.
@@StevieWonder737 Airlines are happy anyone wants the job. At one time it was the ultimate dating agency.
I used to travel a lot on the BCAL 1-11's. Lovely aircraft. One day I even got to sit in the right front seat. on a trip to Gatwick That was nice.
My uncle was a BAC 1-11 captan for LACSA back in the 1970's. He used to fly to MIA, MEX, GUA, SAL, PTY, CCS, CGM.
The engine shown at about 5:15 is a RR Spey but not the one fitted to the BAC 111. It is the 25R fitted to the British McDonnell Douglas FGR2 Phantom. It'd be interesting to see what the 111 did with two of those fitted :-D
love that Techmoan outro them song playing
When I was 9, TACA used to fly these aircrafts..never got the chance to board one unfortunately
Plane spotting in the 70's at Birmingham airport seeing these parked up nose in at the terminal made want a career in aviation.
Plus all gorgeous stewardess at the check in desks!
15k hours flying later where have those days gone.
Braniff flew them in the Sixties, and again in the 80’s when they merged with Florida Express. Noisy outside, but quiet inside.
The noisy engines sort of killed the 1-11. The hush kits helped a bit.
@@flybobbie1449 the car alarm tester.
Yes! Yes! Yes! Love your videos. Can't wait to see your HS Trident Video... Waiting! 👍👌✈️ This as always, is fantastic. Thanks, Sky!
My childhood aircraft! My most favorite before the 737-300 and now the 777-300er.
At 6.20, was that advertising or a clip from "Birds of a Feather"! But great to see British planes. Super video.
I though it was Birds of a feather too!
@@Марк.Фетнов And Bridget Bardot in an earlier clip.
And what looked like a clip from Persuaders with Tony Curtis.
A BAC-111-500 was the first jet I flew in as a kid during the mid-1970s on a domestic flight in the Philippines. The flag carrier Philippine Airlines (PAL) flew this type from the late 1960s up to the early 1990s on domestic and regional (to Hong Kong, Taipei, Saigon) flights. When it was being phased out gradually, I flew it for the last time in the early 1990s when it served as alternate aircraft for a flight regularly served by PAL's then newly introduced Boeing 737-300s. Flying the Super One-Eleven gave birth to the aviation enthusiast in me.
i have fond memories as a youngster in the 70's and 80's, plane-spotting at Ringway (Manchester International Airport). The noise from the 1-11's and Tridents was unbelievable and even after they fitted hush-kits to the 1-11's they were still deafening by today's standards.
As one who started Kiwi Intl Airlines at Newark EWR in New Jersey back in 1993 we seriously consider the Rombac 111
Flew in one from Santisgo to Valdivia. What a rocket. Noisy but so fast. They are still outside our Museum of Aviation waiting for renovation
Use to fly in these from Gatwick to Glasgow in the early 80s & it was very exciting as I hadn’t flown since 1965 when I returned from Africa in a VC10. Flying regularly since the 90s 111s now look somewhat dated
Darn it! I was hoping for at least one short clip of a Mohawk Airlines B.A.C.-111. Allegheny, USAir and American Airlines would have been good too. Such great memories of late childhood and teen years in Upstate New York's Rochester. Those Spey engines, though, were absolute ear killers! I remember getting temporary hearing threshold shifts on Brooks Avenue at Abbott's Frozen Custard standing under them on short final.
9.42 to 10.02, Mohawk and American Airlines.
I liked this aircraft so much! Very good memories.
Nice timing on this video, 1 day after the anniversary of BA 5390.
First plane I flew on was a BAC 1-11 with Dan Air, Manchester to Palma.
It was also my first flight. Manchester to Ibiza in 1974. Cant recall the airline, possibly Dan-Air.
Same here, a Dan Air 111 but from London to Munich for me.
Me too! Inverness to Luton around 1986
:-) me too Laker Airways, Gatwick-Agadir
Dan Air BAC 1-11 Gatwick to Milan, on the return flight the 1-11 was replaced with a Comet. About 1975.
First plane I ever flew on of European air charter to Italy in 1995.. I still have the boarding passes from all that time ago with Sunshare vacations. I managed to route through the history of flights from Gatwick Airport back then and I'm pretty sure the registration of the one I flew on was G-AYOP on the outward flight to Brindisi.
Oh it was great to see G-WLAD the Manx Airlines BAC 1-11 from the mid 80’s .
I use to live on one of the flight paths for Bristol Airport , As a small child I hated the noise of the RR Spey Engines and was glad that the 146 Whisper Jet’s were built .
However I do respect what the 1-11 did for British regional jet transport.
I flew many times onboard the BAC 111 when I travelled to the Philippines between Luzon and the other islands.
Impressively researched as always!
You Did It Again Skyships Eng Showing Mexican Airliners!
Minute 2:34 the Mexicana Airlines Comet IV C
Minute 14:08 Volaris Airbus A-319 in its Elegant livery.
Thank You!!
Greetings from Mexico.
My uncles used to maintain some of these as an aicraft technician. They only have one word for these airliners....Tough
The very first plane i've flown on ! It was between Marseilles (Provence french countryside) and London Gatwick. To go to Dubaï... It was on October1988 ! On business class !
Another great video Skyships! I saw a private 111 in Phoenix at an fbo back in 2008.
Almost flew the 1-11 but got stuck on the HS748 instead. Friend of mine and I would go down to the hangar and sit in the cockpit, dreaming of the day.
Interesting to me it was referred to the “Bach” 1-11 here in the US and “B-A-C” 1-11 in Europe.
Whatever it was, I know it mainly for still hearing it 5 minutes later and setting off car alarms for miles. Not sure If it was a variant thing but the school had to stop teaching for a good 30 seconds to let the plane pass. They got hush kits eventually.
I don't know who calls it that. BAC is called "B-A-C", so I always called it the B-A-C-1-11. The only person who would call it the Back would be someone who was totally ignorant of the organization called BAC. Which no doubt could apply to many Americans.
@@justforever96 Sheesh. Everyone who ever flew or worked it that I knew from Braniff and Mohawk/Allegheny/USAir pronounced it “Bach” 1-11. Might be funny to those in the UK, but so is calling a DC-3/C-47 “Dakota” to Americans.
I used to fly between Dublin (Ireland ) and Manchester (UK) in the 70s . It was always a British Airways BAC1-11 . I remember coming into land over the Pennines Mountains the aircraft would fall 100s of feet which gave the stomach a sickly feeling . It was very noisy on the outside when they came into land or took off .
I flew on the BAC 111 of Bahamsair and B- Cal it was very comfortable aircraft.
So glad this showed up in my search results! Very informative and very nice pictures, thanks for sharing!
In the mid 1980's I worked for a company in San Antonio, TX making target thrust reverses for the BAC 111.
Great video. You should mention the BAC 3-11. This was same layout as the 1-11 but was a wide body with RB 2-11s.
The best aircraft i ever flew as Capt.
thanks for this video I have surprisingly never heard of this plane before
Flew on a 400 model through Memphis, Nashville, and Chattanooga to Knoxville in 1965. Maneuverable, noisy, but fun. American airlines renamed it the Astrojet 400.
Austral Lineas Aereas operated 18 BAC 111 from late 60s to early 90s.
Great vlog as always! You forgot to mention that Howard Huges and TWA wanted to buy the 1-11 to compete with AAs 1-11 and UA Caravelles. I can not remember the numbers, to exact, but I will make my point. Let us say he wanted 50 1-11s and he wanted then in two yrs. BAC said that high of a number would take at least four years! TWA bought the DC-9 instead...
I am glad you mentioned the proposed 700 & 800. I have a mid 1970s copy of "Aviation& Marine" magazine with an item about them. The only thing you missed was the Tay conversion of 475/500 which made them quieter & more economic. Shame that was not promoted, as it clashed with the then new 146.