Glad to see the black deck struggle isn't just a *me* thing. It's the last deck I'm attempting to gold, and I've probably gone on about a 20 loss streak trying to get there, it's maddening. I've even had one or two runs with what I would consider godly set-ups just barely die at the 8/8 boss due to that lost hand.
------------Spoiler-------------- I think the reason why the last run failed was not because of the wrong discard strategy but because of the wrong play strategy. With the card sharp two 'two pairs' would've probably been enough and way easier than playing two full houses. Probably playing three two pairs would've been possible too.
I don't think two Full Houses was too ambitious, and I do think it was a little unlucky to not draw into two of them. But knowing that Two Pair thrice was enough points (given the newly acquired Card Sharp), then going for Two Pairs had no chance of failure.
Ngl kinda glad the first run went how it did because thats how 95% of my black deck runs end. Usually win by getting a win condition in the first 2 antes
TIL Straight Flush is not "a straight that is also a flush" nor "a flush that is also a straight" but "a hand that contains a straight and a flush". Four Fingers, you had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.
@ the odds of winning are 10% if I recall correctly, which was explained by Balatro university… it’s hardly worth playing the black deck on higher blinds because of this. That’s called unfair and complete luck based, zero fun and completely unbalanced. Just try black deck on gold blind and you’ll see how stupid it is.
@@markfowlermusicvery frustrated indeed, economy is astronomically difficult to manage without econ joker, which makes late game as hard as getting early game going
This is the last win I need for Completionist+ and it's so hard... Spent an entire evening trying but couldn't make it past ante 6 and most runs died way earlier than that. The lack of hands leaves you poor all the time which is bad enough by itself, but the rental jokers are just pretty much curses here early on, you can't pick them up or you'll end up in the negatives soon enough. It's extra painful when the rental tag is on econ Jokers, making most of them useless. This is the only deck that just feels plain bad to play on Gold, the others are fine. I feel like I need to skip early for either a free shop or $25 or otherwise I'm fighting an uphill battle from the go. I lost so many runs yesterday that I started to doubt my ability in playing the game, but it's hard for even top players like BU like this video shows.
Discarding the 9 of spades at 28:47 gave me a mini heart attack. Coulda kept the straight flush in play, and it looks like you would've gotten away with it 😄
I don't get why you didn't grab tarot merchant, on the 2nd run, after just picking up vampire, I'm surprised you never even mentioned it. I feel like getting a chance get something that would give enhancements, that you can carry in with you and you can place on cards you know are going to score could have been pretty helpful. I'm curious as to why you didn't even seem to consider it.
I don't like how higher stakes achieve their difficulty through debuffed jokers. Rental+perishables and eternal commons becoming duds in 90% of the situations, they don't add much except taking shop slots and making you starve in early to mid game. That rental bus you took in game 2 eliminates almost all sources of income: big and boss blinds give you 4$ and 5$ respectively for 3$ average for a blind per ante, which you need to pay for the bus. That all but eliminates interest as another source together with hermit and hurts temperance for which purposes rental still counts as 1$. I understand randomness is in the nature of the game and tying difficulty to just increasingly bigger numbers on blinds will not be enough- you'll still have either not enough or 10x over. Still I find excessively restrictive nature of debuffs hard to enjoy.
I won my gold stake run on the black deck with four fingers ante 1 helping me make straight flushes with a decent immolate to help my econ. it hurt my soul seeing you sell the order and getting four fingers back in your shop, couldve went for the strush run
I think this deck would feel so much better if you started with like two judgements or something like that. It’d probably even then still be the worst deck.
I got my first gold on the black deck because having one extra joker slot for the late game seemed way too good. You can win the early game with a combination of some decent common mult and chips jokers anyway
Also if you reallt have to pick up a mediocre eternal joker at the first round you might as well restart, I don't see why you took that instead of the OP spectral pack
if that is the issue why not just use the extra joker slot to carry a money or hands/discards joker. Sure, you have to buy them, but you only have to pay for them once. A gold joker is worth more than one extra hand
@@anarchistpoops161 Because its gold stake... Most jokers are made worse by having a tag. Meaning its much harder to actually get any value out of your jokers.
Я делал это до курса звука, шел студентом конечно, сердце ударило от этого сурового и маленького поезда. Врач клиники района видит оазис в мире. Мир вам, и вам мир. От богу пусть будет больше добра. Я забрал автобус, и когда я сказал что зеркала сейчас, я сказал что поднял бы зеркала, я сказал что за звук такой. Этот год был особенно жутким для моего голоса, еле хуибн наджик конец времён.
"You don't HAVE to play on the gold stake"
Yeah I also don't HAVE to breathe either but my brain won't allow it
if i get a win it isn't satisfying it could have been on a stake i haven't unlocked yet
That sounds like a Northernlion quote
Taking misprint shop 1 was eye-opening to me. I never would've taken an eternal misprint. Thanks!
Glad to see the black deck struggle isn't just a *me* thing. It's the last deck I'm attempting to gold, and I've probably gone on about a 20 loss streak trying to get there, it's maddening. I've even had one or two runs with what I would consider godly set-ups just barely die at the 8/8 boss due to that lost hand.
Thank you for showing the first game with the loss. I learned more from that than any other video 👍
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I think the reason why the last run failed was not because of the wrong discard strategy but because of the wrong play strategy. With the card sharp two 'two pairs' would've probably been enough and way easier than playing two full houses. Probably playing three two pairs would've been possible too.
True
I don't think two Full Houses was too ambitious, and I do think it was a little unlucky to not draw into two of them. But knowing that Two Pair thrice was enough points (given the newly acquired Card Sharp), then going for Two Pairs had no chance of failure.
@@drspectredalso two pair have one empty for sticky red card
30% win rate on gold stakes? Definitely not a skill issue. Luck confirmed.
Ngl kinda glad the first run went how it did because thats how 95% of my black deck runs end. Usually win by getting a win condition in the first 2 antes
TIL Straight Flush is not "a straight that is also a flush" nor "a flush that is also a straight" but "a hand that contains a straight and a flush". Four Fingers, you had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.
It gets weirder with Flush House, you can get one with any full house with four suited cards. I'm assuming same is true for Flush Five.
wait till you throw in shortcut
The black deck on higher stakes just needs changing period, it’s too badly designed with the minus hand and discard.
It’s not, it’s great. Not every randomly generated game needs to be 100% winnable
@ the odds of winning are 10% if I recall correctly, which was explained by Balatro university… it’s hardly worth playing the black deck on higher blinds because of this. That’s called unfair and complete luck based, zero fun and completely unbalanced. Just try black deck on gold blind and you’ll see how stupid it is.
@@markfowlermusicvery frustrated indeed, economy is astronomically difficult to manage without econ joker, which makes late game as hard as getting early game going
i think it's good when the challenge mode is challenging personally
Came here for guidance, left with affirmation. Thanks!
The only deck Im missing to get the completionist+ achievement. Thanks for the video professor!
I felt so blessed in orange stake, but gold has me hitting the wall. The game is still fun so I haven't stopped
This is the last win I need for Completionist+ and it's so hard... Spent an entire evening trying but couldn't make it past ante 6 and most runs died way earlier than that. The lack of hands leaves you poor all the time which is bad enough by itself, but the rental jokers are just pretty much curses here early on, you can't pick them up or you'll end up in the negatives soon enough. It's extra painful when the rental tag is on econ Jokers, making most of them useless. This is the only deck that just feels plain bad to play on Gold, the others are fine. I feel like I need to skip early for either a free shop or $25 or otherwise I'm fighting an uphill battle from the go.
I lost so many runs yesterday that I started to doubt my ability in playing the game, but it's hard for even top players like BU like this video shows.
got my frist gold stake on abandoned deck, all thx to you Professor🙏
I feel justified in my hatred for the black deck
you dont know how validating it is watching you scrape by on a run.
Game is hard, fam
Discarding the 9 of spades at 28:47 gave me a mini heart attack. Coulda kept the straight flush in play, and it looks like you would've gotten away with it 😄
I really appreciate you selling Canio for demonstration purposes. Lucking into an instant win doesn't teach us anything lol.
I don't get why you didn't grab tarot merchant, on the 2nd run, after just picking up vampire, I'm surprised you never even mentioned it. I feel like getting a chance get something that would give enhancements, that you can carry in with you and you can place on cards you know are going to score could have been pretty helpful. I'm curious as to why you didn't even seem to consider it.
Man i can't even win on blue stake with black deck,let alone gold stake
Man Mail in Rebate is OP!
The money struggles... then you roll The Tooth 😂😢
I don't like how higher stakes achieve their difficulty through debuffed jokers. Rental+perishables and eternal commons becoming duds in 90% of the situations, they don't add much except taking shop slots and making you starve in early to mid game. That rental bus you took in game 2 eliminates almost all sources of income: big and boss blinds give you 4$ and 5$ respectively for 3$ average for a blind per ante, which you need to pay for the bus. That all but eliminates interest as another source together with hermit and hurts temperance for which purposes rental still counts as 1$. I understand randomness is in the nature of the game and tying difficulty to just increasingly bigger numbers on blinds will not be enough- you'll still have either not enough or 10x over. Still I find excessively restrictive nature of debuffs hard to enjoy.
Reassuring to know that you can't win black deck all the time either. Thanks! 😅
takes eternal misprint, doesnt take hologram, wins.. make it make sense.
When did he win with eternal misprint?
@@TwoPumpChumper
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@@johnmason614he uh.. he doesn’t win that one.. I’d let you finish the video but it’s been A few days by now
I won my gold stake run on the black deck with four fingers ante 1 helping me make straight flushes with a decent immolate to help my econ. it hurt my soul seeing you sell the order and getting four fingers back in your shop, couldve went for the strush run
60% chance to win now, absolute waffle numbers hahaha. Nice run though.
can this be used in base difficulty for completion?
Nope
15:29 forgot you were going to skip for the Straight
I think this deck would feel so much better if you started with like two judgements or something like that. It’d probably even then still be the worst deck.
Black deck is awful to play lol.
Skill issue. Just get the Juggler early and it becomes the base deck :p
I got my first gold on the black deck because having one extra joker slot for the late game seemed way too good. You can win the early game with a combination of some decent common mult and chips jokers anyway
Also if you reallt have to pick up a mediocre eternal joker at the first round you might as well restart, I don't see why you took that instead of the OP spectral pack
if that is the issue why not just use the extra joker slot to carry a money or hands/discards joker. Sure, you have to buy them, but you only have to pay for them once. A gold joker is worth more than one extra hand
@@anarchistpoops161 Because its gold stake... Most jokers are made worse by having a tag. Meaning its much harder to actually get any value out of your jokers.
@@anarchistpoops161”you only have to pay gor them once”
rentals:
Black deck suck so much they should give +2 joker slots instead.
Canio, noooo! Heart irrevocably broken.
feels man
RNG or bust.
You aren’t only winning at a 30% chance. C’mon you aren’t hitting 15 of those in a row
Я делал это до курса звука, шел студентом конечно, сердце ударило от этого сурового и маленького поезда. Врач клиники района видит оазис в мире. Мир вам, и вам мир. От богу пусть будет больше добра. Я забрал автобус, и когда я сказал что зеркала сейчас, я сказал что поднял бы зеркала, я сказал что за звук такой. Этот год был особенно жутким для моего голоса, еле хуибн наджик конец времён.
I did gold stake on black deck in one try. Orange took a few tho
Frist!