Getting ready to buy a 2024 RAM 3500, 6.7 but after watching this video had some concerns. So i got a second and third opinion from friends that are mechanics and they both said show me a manufacturer that doesnt have problems. Parts are produced with different materials so there are tolerance built into ever part. So hold up some dont. And then I thought about my Harleys, my evo has old school lifters and my Electra Gluid has hydraulic lifters. Both run great because i keep up on the maintenance. Will this new truck last a few hundred thousand miles dont know but, neither did my new refrigerator which broke down after six months. Turk thanks for the great information keep it coming it at least lets us know what to look out for.
Really appreciate your experience and tips! I bought a 2024 2500 about 6 months ago and trying to maintain it as best as possible. Plus, your 2005 comments are great as I get my father’s 2004.5 with the 5.9 and NV5600 back on the road.
You’re driving a unicorn sir. I have a 2008 with a G56 and she’s a beauty but starting to get pretty rusty. It’s fully deleted with 5” straight pipes (has been for most of its life), so I know it’s gonna go a million miles, but I would like a non-rusty truck ;-)
You're not wrong sir, but let's be fair: The lifter failures Cummins have seen were not categorically because they went to hydraulic roller lifters. It was because the lifters were poorly manufactured. Flat tappets may potentially be more reliable even if they're poorly made, at least for a time. But whatever of the two that you choose, if you make them well enough, they'll last. Now, the word is that Cummins have had quality issues with *_some_* of the suppliers they've used and have now excluded all but one supplier for the lifters. If that's all it takes to have a reliable 5½th gen 6.7, then that's all it is; time will tell. But we can't categorically say that roller lifters are just straight up junk or unreliable. Millions of vehicles have used them reliably for decades. Remember: It's not necessarily the design, but rather the build quality of a component that makes the difference. Roller lifters do have their own advantages. We can't be so blinded by frustration with Cummins that we can't at least acknowledge that. Should Cummins have gone back to flat tappets? Maybe. Should Cummins have been a lot more selective with suppliers? Absolutely, most definitely! Just like every other manufacturer should be! Suppliers that produce crap should be forced out of business. That's where the real crime happens.
Love my 2015 4th gen Cummins I definitely believe this is the best generation offered to date. Slowly fixing all the little gremlins one at a time. Going on 130k miles strong so far.
I'm not a transmission guy. I was so glad to hear you say about transmission bypass. I went off my mechanic back ground and gut feeling. I put one on my transmission.
Very informative video! I guess we'll have to do preventative maintenance and replace all of the hydraulic lifters at 100K miles...hopefully with a flat tappet aftermarket conversion.
Hey Josh can you help me out. I’m needing the correct specs for adjusting the valve lash on a 2014 high output Cummins. I have been told that the intake is .010 and the exhaust is .020. Really enjoy your channel. They’re very informative and love the honest opinions from an honest mechanic.
What I'd appreciate as a newbie to a diesel truck, duramax, and soon purchase of another diesel is a guide to best truck and engine. Like this video, i like how you let us know the aftermarket mods to make the engine last longer. Thanks again!
If you’re going used 2018 Ram 3500 with the Aisin transmission would be my first choice. If new Ford is probably best bet with a caveat. They still use the CP4 which has several options to address that you can google. The Duramax in the GMs are great engines but the new 10 spd has been having issues. I loved my 2019 Cummins right up until the lifters let go.
Hey, I drive a 6 speed manual Ram with a Cummins, with the rubber floor... they didn't have one with manual crank windows though... I really like my truck, works great on the farm.
Went from my 1st gen 5.9 with 1M+ miles to 23 5th gen. I’m definitely relearning the quirks of this new motor. Started at 7500 intervals but now dropping fluids at 5k. What’s your take on fuel and crankcase filter? I’m dropping fuel filters at 10k but haven’t seen much on the crankcase. What I do know Cam, CP4 and bypasses are targeted when I hit 99,999 miles.
I have a 3500 2022 RAM Laramie Deluxe, I like my truck, and I want to keep it, but I am concerned about the engine issues. I have installed the Banks system to remove the issues with the grid heater. I put a lot of miles on the truck, plus I tow a lot, and I do not want to replace it for a while. I purchased the truck to be reliable and I would like it to get 200k miles out of it if possible. I definitely do not what the truck to break down in the middle of nowhere land or in the middle of the night in subzero weather. I am curious in regard to the time and the cost of replacing the cam and installing the solid lifters. What would something like that cost as an estimate? I'm sure it would be a lot less than buying a new truck which probably wouldn't last anyway and would probably have similar issues. Thank you for all of the information relating to the RAM diesels it has been very informative. Do you work at the RAM dealership in Salt Lake? Do you know if most RAM dealerships do this type of custom work? Thank you again.
One of the main selling points of getting a diesel was always its longevity and now between the lifters and the emissions systems they are not as reliable as they use to be and most people will not go to the dealer to get a motor replaced or rebuilt if they are out of warranty and pay $25k
Bought my 2002 Dodge ram Cummins new, special ordered it in July 2001. It has been bullit proof for 418,000 miles. I hopped it up with big turbo, 125hp injectors, raptor 100gph fuel pump, big line kit, etc, etc...only had tappets reset once at 400,000 miles, only a couple exhaust were slightly out of adjustment...
I agree partially, if look at cummins qsc8.3 and qsl9 they're identical to qsb6.7 except slightly larger, but they are using rollers without the hydraulic compensator and I haven't seen any problems with it. However I do think quality control is a factor and hydraulic lifter/compensator is a problem across the industry. Maybe that's the reason I don't see hydraulic lifters on industrial and ag equipment.
Love your videos.. Was wondering if have a list to make the cummins bulletproof.. Said their wasn't much.. Use my truck ( 2022 Ram 3500) for a hotshot. As you say, how much these trucks cost anything we can do just to keep them around.. Till the wheels fall off.. Thanks in advance.. Keep the useful material coming...
Well let’s start with a weight loss program. If that’s not an option then move on to a Bullet proof diesel water pump. You can source them thru BD Diesel.com. Then move to the banks ram air kit, banks boost tubes and banks intercooler. Head studs are good. Coolant bypass system. FASS fuel system. And trans cooler bypass valve. That’s a good start. And if you want to get a little more involved trade your turbo for a Fleece with upgraded vane with bearings and inlet turbine wheel.
Another good eye opening video. Ok my question is...on another popular youtuber channel he says..after 15 or 20 seconds..start druving youe Cummins..to heat up oil quicker. I akways thought give it a couple minutes at least...befire miving my truck. What say you Master Tech?..ty!
2009 Dodge ram 3500 with the 6.7 Cummings. I have 1,920,000 miles on the original motor. I’ve never even had the valve covered off original 68 RV transmission that I changed the oil in once at 280,000 original fuel injectors as well, I’ve changed the oil 188 times and half of those miles are pulling heavy. I’ve never had it to the dealer. Maybe that’s why it’s lasting so long.
I unfortunately bought a 23 before knowing any of the issues with the 5th gen. I, like your saying am a loyal customer of Cummins. I only buy Cummins for my businesses. I own a 06, 07, 2) 17's and now a 23 dually. I am extremely disappointed in finding out the issues with the 5th gens. How much does the flat tappet swap cost? I'm interested in letting you do the swap on you channel.
I don’t have a final cost yet. I have 3 inline to do soon but I’m having to have the customers source their own parts. After I do 1 I should have a good indication of what the cost will be. Thank you for watching and stay tuned for when I do get one in for the conversion
That is why I love my 18 cummins. I ordered the truck with everything I wanted, and nothing I didn't. I use my hemi to to all the running and the diesel to do the business.
@ I’ve had three ram trucks all maintained very well all gas two close to 200k one over 300k just got my first diesel ram 2024 2500 I see I already need to do the monster ram from banks and upgrade the air cleaner to I don’t plan on deleting it so besides oil changes every 5k what else is left to help prevent any issues this would be a great video for folks new to diesel’s
I like my manual shifted 4x4, manual windows and such. It's called LESS TO BREAK. Don't need heatecd and seats because I have cloth seats. Heck my truck has a manual transmission.
Love the videos, great info. I totally agree they need to bring back the flat tappets , and fingers crossed this CP8 is what it is everything it has been cracked up to be. You guys are killing me with calling these HDs 5th and now 6th Gen trucks. New grill , headlights and a different transmission does not make for a new generation truck. All these trucks are still 4th Gen. Think about 2nd Gen trucks as an example 93 models had different interiors different versions of the Cummins, different transmissions etc etc, then a 2001 model that’s still considered a 2nd Gen. same sort of updates and changes occurred for the 1st gen trucks, and the 3rd Gen trucks. Respectfully the 2025 model is still a 4th Gen all be it the 3rd revision of the 4th Gen.
Cummins didn’t make the call to put the roller lifter valvetrain in the truck. That was Stellantis’ decision. Cummins builds commercial B6.7 engines currently that still have the tried and true flat tappet valvetrain. Only the 6.7’s that go into the Ram HD’s are hydraulic roller lifter.
@user-pgchargerse71 Still counting!! Now, I don't know tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. There are a couple of guys that their 4th Gen have over 800, 000 miles with their original transmission. No major repairs but that doesn't mean that every 4th gen will have the same fate. I've seen them broke at 40,000 miles. Obviously you will find money pits in every manufacturer. I have another good friend of mine that has a 2006 Ford f- 350 with the 6 liter engine and that truck still runs fine at 240,000 miles with only maintenance.
@@domcummins4148 I'm pretty sure mine is getting close to 800,000 miles, no major repairs either although my transmission (G56) started getting noisy last year. Had it rebuilt, still noisy, had it rebuilt again, still noisy!
I have 70k on my 22 cummins with no issues but this got me thinking about doing this conversion for reliability.How much will this conversion cost and will this make my 5th gen cummins sound more like a diesel?
Im interested in the conversion also. I drive a 24 3500 w 30k miles on it. I know you mentioned the labor hrs. Can you provide a parts list to do the conversion? Please.
I've got a 2022 RAM 3500 6.7 HO with a build date 4/22 at 41K miles. Been hearing a lot of people with this issue. Really hoping fingers crossed i can get longevity out of this truck. But been thinking of trading as of lately. Any warning signs before this problem happens.?
It’s not Cummins fault they know it won’t last that’s why all other applications still use flat tappet. It’s ram pushing these changes. It’s been this way since 2003 with the 3rd gen’s.
Yikes - makes me question my choice of purchasing a 2022 3500 with 24K miles last summer as my tow vehicle to take me into my retirement years. What are my options?
Watching another channel, there was a thought or concensus that the failures we are seeing with the Cam/lifters were a supplier parts issue. The other channels said Ram got rid of those bad suppliers that moat of the failures were coming from during COVID. Do you buy this?
I don’t tow a lot nor do I ever plan to. But the $12.5k engine option and the inevitable expensive repairs of the diesels keeps me buying the cheaper gas models. The increased fuel economy will never pay for the engine cost. And then add in double the maintenance cost it just doesn’t make sense.
Do yoy have any input on the Banks Cold Air Input system causing a p0402 code on some 5th gen's? Thank you. 22 RAM 3500 drw longhorn limited h.o cclb 4.10.
Had a ‘14 1500 that had the “trans heater” valve stick open (or closed, whichever one is too hot). Overheated the trans pulling a trailer and was slipping gears. They shouldn’t have used those. My GM trans stays nice and cool.
Just sold my 2022 today based primarily on the fear of future lifter issues. From what I understand 22 was the worst year. Thought about doing the Hamilton but throwing that money plus the cost of fixing all the other potential engine issues just didn't seem worth it.
I have a 2019 Ram 1500 4x4 Classic, with a 5.7 liter Hemi. Is it normal for my truck to tick when doing a cold start, and stop after about 3 seconds? If you just work on diesel’s then I understand. Just thought I would ask. Thanks!😎
Have you heard anything about the EPA not enforcing crackdowns on diesel emissions deletes under the new administration? I'm referencing TK's garage channel, he's been posting a lot of videos about it.
I got a 2022 2500 with a 6.7 and wanted to ask your advice on the oil to use. I live in the pacific northwest and been using Rotella T5 10w-30 synthetic blend. Do you think that’s a good choice for this engine?
Question: what is the failure rate of cam/lifters on the 2021 6.7? I've been doing some research and it seems like a handful of 19's, very few 20-21, but 22 and up it spikes up quite a bit. It does appear the 22's are plagued with a list of other issues as well. Overall, it appears the 2021 may have the least amount of issues than other fifth gen model years? (Side note - I have an 06 5.9 with over 600k. In 19+ years, left me stranded only twice. Both times #5 fuel line cracked. I now carry one in the glove box)
I would agree that the roller lifter a problem but is there a way to extend the life of the lifters because let’s face it not everyone has 10 k to have a brand new engine torn down and have all new lifters and cam be put into these trucks. 90k is a lot of money for a throw away piece of equipment. Do they have the oils wrong. Should they be using a 0-40 or a 5-40 instead of of the 10-30 should the oil pan be redesigned so no oil is trapped in the sump
Is maintaining valve lash the only reason they went to hydraulic lifters? I really am lost to why they did this it’s not like the flat tappets aren’t proven to be more reliable.
Getting ready to buy a 2024 RAM 3500, 6.7 but after watching this video had some concerns. So i got a second and third opinion from friends that are mechanics and they both said show me a manufacturer that doesnt have problems. Parts are produced with different materials so there are tolerance built into ever part. So hold up some dont. And then I thought about my Harleys, my evo has old school lifters and my Electra Gluid has hydraulic lifters. Both run great because i keep up on the maintenance. Will this new truck last a few hundred thousand miles dont know but, neither did my new refrigerator which broke down after six months. Turk thanks for the great information keep it coming it at least lets us know what to look out for.
Really appreciate your experience and tips! I bought a 2024 2500 about 6 months ago and trying to maintain it as best as possible. Plus, your 2005 comments are great as I get my father’s 2004.5 with the 5.9 and NV5600 back on the road.
Great video! Loved the conversation!
Oh just wanted to say I love the vids that you guys create together definitely a perfect duo of Consumer and Tech to get all the info we need
Cummins was awesome until 2019 motor came out. I will be sticking with my 2018 g56.
Thanks for the video
You’re driving a unicorn sir. I have a 2008 with a G56 and she’s a beauty but starting to get pretty rusty. It’s fully deleted with 5” straight pipes (has been for most of its life), so I know it’s gonna go a million miles, but I would like a non-rusty truck ;-)
Agreed. Sticking with both my 2013 and 2018 Megacab G56's.
Never seen a 5th gen fail in person but I’ve seen a 2018 4th gen just drop a valve just going down the road
This video helped curtail my hunt for a 5th/6th gen. Looks like I'm in my 4th gen forever!
You're not wrong sir, but let's be fair: The lifter failures Cummins have seen were not categorically because they went to hydraulic roller lifters. It was because the lifters were poorly manufactured. Flat tappets may potentially be more reliable even if they're poorly made, at least for a time. But whatever of the two that you choose, if you make them well enough, they'll last. Now, the word is that Cummins have had quality issues with *_some_* of the suppliers they've used and have now excluded all but one supplier for the lifters. If that's all it takes to have a reliable 5½th gen 6.7, then that's all it is; time will tell. But we can't categorically say that roller lifters are just straight up junk or unreliable. Millions of vehicles have used them reliably for decades. Remember: It's not necessarily the design, but rather the build quality of a component that makes the difference. Roller lifters do have their own advantages. We can't be so blinded by frustration with Cummins that we can't at least acknowledge that. Should Cummins have gone back to flat tappets? Maybe. Should Cummins have been a lot more selective with suppliers? Absolutely, most definitely! Just like every other manufacturer should be! Suppliers that produce crap should be forced out of business. That's where the real crime happens.
Maybe i missed it but in regards to hyd lifters and oil changes what mileage should i change my oil , in your opinion ? Awesome video ! Cheers
Love my 2015 4th gen Cummins I definitely believe this is the best generation offered to date. Slowly fixing all the little gremlins one at a time. Going on 130k miles strong so far.
Keep at it. My 2015 has 234k. Just replaced the vgt actuator. Still runs great
@ yes sir I am definitely building it to last the long time and have a strong reliable truck.
I'm at 210K. 2014 Aisin H.O.
@ this gives me hope mine will last a long time with proper use and care
Well done guys!
I'm not a transmission guy. I was so glad to hear you say about transmission bypass. I went off my mechanic back ground and gut feeling. I put one on my transmission.
I don't know 1 individual with an issue from it, and I also have a 2500 6.4L as well as 5500 stock.
Very informative video! I guess we'll have to do preventative maintenance and replace all of the hydraulic lifters at 100K miles...hopefully with a flat tappet aftermarket conversion.
Hey Josh can you help me out. I’m needing the correct specs for adjusting the valve lash on a 2014 high output Cummins. I have been told that the intake is .010 and the exhaust is .020. Really enjoy your channel. They’re very informative and love the honest opinions from an honest mechanic.
Those are correct
@ Thank you.
I love my 17 keeping it forever thanks for the video 👍
Same here 2017 5500, and 6.4L 2500HD.
What I'd appreciate as a newbie to a diesel truck, duramax, and soon purchase of another diesel is a guide to best truck and engine. Like this video, i like how you let us know the aftermarket mods to make the engine last longer. Thanks again!
If you’re going used 2018 Ram 3500 with the Aisin transmission would be my first choice. If new Ford is probably best bet with a caveat. They still use the CP4 which has several options to address that you can google. The Duramax in the GMs are great engines but the new 10 spd has been having issues. I loved my 2019 Cummins right up until the lifters let go.
@rickkeller105 Thank you sir.
Hey, I drive a 6 speed manual Ram with a Cummins, with the rubber floor... they didn't have one with manual crank windows though... I really like my truck, works great on the farm.
Exactly. No way I would own one of those either. City boys are a different critter than folks from the farm/ranch.
Went from my 1st gen 5.9 with 1M+ miles to 23 5th gen. I’m definitely relearning the quirks of this new motor. Started at 7500 intervals but now dropping fluids at 5k. What’s your take on fuel and crankcase filter? I’m dropping fuel filters at 10k but haven’t seen much on the crankcase. What I do know Cam, CP4 and bypasses are targeted when I hit 99,999 miles.
I have a 3500 2022 RAM Laramie Deluxe, I like my truck, and I want to keep it, but I am concerned about the engine issues. I have installed the Banks system to remove the issues with the grid heater. I put a lot of miles on the truck, plus I tow a lot, and I do not want to replace it for a while. I purchased the truck to be reliable and I would like it to get 200k miles out of it if possible. I definitely do not what the truck to break down in the middle of nowhere land or in the middle of the night in subzero weather. I am curious in regard to the time and the cost of replacing the cam and installing the solid lifters. What would something like that cost as an estimate? I'm sure it would be a lot less than buying a new truck which probably wouldn't last anyway and would probably have similar issues. Thank you for all of the information relating to the RAM diesels it has been very informative. Do you work at the RAM dealership in Salt Lake? Do you know if most RAM dealerships do this type of custom work? Thank you again.
One of the main selling points of getting a diesel was always its longevity and now between the lifters and the emissions systems they are not as reliable as they use to be and most people will not go to the dealer to get a motor replaced or rebuilt if they are out of warranty and pay $25k
Bought my 2002 Dodge ram Cummins new, special ordered it in July 2001. It has been bullit proof for 418,000 miles. I hopped it up with big turbo, 125hp injectors, raptor 100gph fuel pump, big line kit, etc, etc...only had tappets reset once at 400,000 miles, only a couple exhaust were slightly out of adjustment...
I agree partially, if look at cummins qsc8.3 and qsl9 they're identical to qsb6.7 except slightly larger, but they are using rollers without the hydraulic compensator and I haven't seen any problems with it. However I do think quality control is a factor and hydraulic lifter/compensator is a problem across the industry. Maybe that's the reason I don't see hydraulic lifters on industrial and ag equipment.
Love your honesty, keep it real.
Love your videos.. Was wondering if have a list to make the cummins bulletproof.. Said their wasn't much.. Use my truck ( 2022 Ram 3500) for a hotshot. As you say, how much these trucks cost anything we can do just to keep them around.. Till the wheels fall off.. Thanks in advance.. Keep the useful material coming...
Well let’s start with a weight loss program. If that’s not an option then move on to a Bullet proof diesel water pump. You can source them thru BD Diesel.com. Then move to the banks ram air kit, banks boost tubes and banks intercooler. Head studs are good. Coolant bypass system. FASS fuel system. And trans cooler bypass valve. That’s a good start. And if you want to get a little more involved trade your turbo for a Fleece with upgraded vane with bearings and inlet turbine wheel.
@Trukstuf weight loss is in the plans
. Have the banks monster intake and air intake so far... Thanks for the quick response..
AWESOME, I wish you live in FL, some day my 6.7 will fail and UT is far away 😂
Dave’s Automotive is in Utah, he will do the job right. Can find him on RUclips.
Completely agree with you... cummins should've stuck with the solid valve train. Enjoy the videos man.
I work mass transit and the isb ism are still solid lifter design
Thanks for the education
Another good eye opening video. Ok my question is...on another popular youtuber channel he says..after 15 or 20 seconds..start druving youe Cummins..to heat up oil quicker. I akways thought give it a couple minutes at least...befire miving my truck. What say you Master Tech?..ty!
Thanks for your knowledge
Thanks for all the good information 😎👍. On a 2018 ram cummins, how many hours to put on the Banks Monster-Ram Intake? Thanks in advance ☺️
I believe banks recommends 6 hours. I’ve been charging 3.4. That’s alldata time for replacing the air grid heater
Great conversation and informative for someone that drives a 5th gen and is considering going on a diet! 😂
I agree. That’s why my 06 will never be for sale 💪🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
2009 Dodge ram 3500 with the 6.7 Cummings. I have 1,920,000 miles on the original motor. I’ve never even had the valve covered off original 68 RV transmission that I changed the oil in once at 280,000 original fuel injectors as well, I’ve changed the oil 188 times and half of those miles are pulling heavy. I’ve never had it to the dealer. Maybe that’s why it’s lasting so long.
Are the new lifters the same PN? Thought I heard they made metallurgy and/or bearing changes.
I unfortunately bought a 23 before knowing any of the issues with the 5th gen. I, like your saying am a loyal customer of Cummins. I only buy Cummins for my businesses. I own a 06, 07, 2) 17's and now a 23 dually. I am extremely disappointed in finding out the issues with the 5th gens. How much does the flat tappet swap cost? I'm interested in letting you do the swap on you channel.
I don’t have a final cost yet. I have 3 inline to do soon but I’m having to have the customers source their own parts. After I do 1 I should have a good indication of what the cost will be. Thank you for watching and stay tuned for when I do get one in for the conversion
Fantastic information! Thank you!
Dave’s auto did a video on the roller cam swap. About a week ago.
Would love to know the cost of a flat tappet conversion. Im guessing 7-8k installed. If im on track it makes it pretty hard to commit to. Lol
That is why I love my 18 cummins. I ordered the truck with everything I wanted, and nothing I didn't. I use my hemi to to all the running and the diesel to do the business.
Is the flat tappet lifter conversion worth doing on a 5th gen cgi block?
I think it is funny that so many of the EXPERTS have to tell us they are experts!
Do you think the new location of the catalyst and turbo do anything positive for the emissions equipment?
1000% bro. It sucks I have to get mine swapped to a tappet conversion but it 3100 for parts!! I see jb reviews with you!!
Hopefully they get there lifter/ camshaft issues fixed, hyd lifters are nothing new. Just new to Ram/Cummins Engs.
I’ll keep my 07 3500 5.9 w/ 290,000mi as long as I can. Easy to work on and no emissions crap.
Exactly why I’ll stick with my 3rd gen 5.9 G56 truck. Most of the bugs worked out and never seen a check engine light in its life.
I wish they had that CHEAP no frills version, 6speed manual,4x4 ..less stuff to break
Do you think maintenance have a roll to play in the issues this motor is having and are there things owners can do to solve theses issues
Great question
@ I’ve had three ram trucks all maintained very well all gas two close to 200k one over 300k just got my first diesel ram 2024 2500 I see I already need to do the monster ram from banks and upgrade the air cleaner to I don’t plan on deleting it so besides oil changes every 5k what else is left to help prevent any issues this would be a great video for folks new to diesel’s
With all these hydraulic lifter failures, what would you recommend for the oil weight in a warmer climate setting on a 5th gen Cummins
I like my manual shifted 4x4, manual windows and such. It's called LESS TO BREAK. Don't need heatecd and seats because I have cloth seats. Heck my truck has a manual transmission.
Can you recommend any oil additive that can protect the roller lifter components?
Good video 😊
Love the videos, great info. I totally agree they need to bring back the flat tappets , and fingers crossed this CP8 is what it is everything it has been cracked up to be.
You guys are killing me with calling these HDs 5th and now 6th Gen trucks.
New grill , headlights and a different transmission does not make for a new generation truck.
All these trucks are still 4th Gen.
Think about 2nd Gen trucks as an example 93 models had different interiors different versions of the Cummins, different transmissions etc etc, then a 2001 model that’s still considered a 2nd Gen. same sort of updates and changes occurred for the 1st gen trucks, and the 3rd Gen trucks. Respectfully the 2025 model is still a 4th Gen all be it the 3rd revision of the 4th Gen.
I have a 2023 Ram 2500 custome built.So, what do I do? What will Ram do?
Love it thanks for the honesty
Mines a 2014. Bought new and it has been the absolute best and most reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned. Will be keeping it for as long as I can.
wow thanks man had no idea before watching your video … Does my stock 2016 Ram 3500 6.7 have the hydraulic roller design?
Thanks for doing videos. I wanna bullet proof my Ecodiesel! Or should I just buy a 6th gen Cummins.
Cummins didn’t make the call to put the roller lifter valvetrain in the truck. That was Stellantis’ decision. Cummins builds commercial B6.7 engines currently that still have the tried and true flat tappet valvetrain. Only the 6.7’s that go into the Ram HD’s are hydraulic roller lifter.
Didn’t know there were options to replace the lifters. Great stuf
I Love stripped down simplicity, combined with a manual transmission and great engine. Even my motorcycle doesn't have abs.
Love my 4th gen. 678,456 miles and counting
just curious, is your odometer still counting? My 2011 stopped at 621,370, which is 999,999 kilometers
@user-pgchargerse71 Still counting!! Now, I don't know tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. There are a couple of guys that their 4th Gen have over 800, 000 miles with their original transmission. No major repairs but that doesn't mean that every 4th gen will have the same fate. I've seen them broke at 40,000 miles. Obviously you will find money pits in every manufacturer. I have another good friend of mine that has a 2006 Ford f- 350 with the 6 liter engine and that truck still runs fine at 240,000 miles with only maintenance.
@@domcummins4148 I'm pretty sure mine is getting close to 800,000 miles, no major repairs either although my transmission (G56) started getting noisy last year. Had it rebuilt, still noisy, had it rebuilt again, still noisy!
I have 70k on my 22 cummins with no issues but this got me thinking about doing this conversion for reliability.How much will this conversion cost and will this make my 5th gen cummins sound more like a diesel?
Cost is going to vary. Labor by all data is 12.8 hours
Im interested in the conversion also. I drive a 24 3500 w 30k miles on it. I know you mentioned the labor hrs. Can you provide a parts list to do the conversion? Please.
Dont care about the factory warranty
What the cost of bullet proofing a 5 gen
What is diet program? What is the name and address of your shop?
Cummins is the only reason I drive a dodge/ ram ..
Now have no reason to purchase one 😢
I've got a 2022 RAM 3500 6.7 HO with a build date 4/22 at 41K miles. Been hearing a lot of people with this issue. Really hoping fingers crossed i can get longevity out of this truck. But been thinking of trading as of lately. Any warning signs before this problem happens.?
What will be the cost to replace the lifters in a 2024 ram 2500 diesel with flat head lifters.
What do you mean by diet program?
It’s not Cummins fault they know it won’t last that’s why all other applications still use flat tappet. It’s ram pushing these changes. It’s been this way since 2003 with the 3rd gen’s.
Have you read up and looked at the Chevy 3.0 LZ0 and what are your thoughts?
Man, I got a 2024 back in aug. Don't tow a lot, but I wanted a diesel now I feel like it was a mistake,What dealer are you at and state.
I’m at Larry H Miller dodge ram jeep in Sandy utah
@Trukstuf man, that's way far away for me..Hopefully with good maintenance mine will last
I miss the first and second gens trucks the 12v and 24v those are reasonable good trucks
5 and 6 cooling I didn’t know about that is there a brand and part number I should buy also will a Amzoil filter system void my warranty
That cam profile to me looks like a flat tappet one. Have they just chucked roller lifters in and call it good?
What is the ball park cost to go to flat tapit?
Love the channel, what year 4th gen do you see the least amount of issues with?
Also any recommended upgrades on a 97 12 valve?
Yikes - makes me question my choice of purchasing a 2022 3500 with 24K miles last summer as my tow vehicle to take me into my retirement years. What are my options?
They could easily go back to the flat tappet motors because the commercial engines still have them
Duramax and power stroke have roller lifters,so what Cummings doing wrong I wonder🤔
They had up to 4 suppliers and recently went down to 2 so hopefully the 2 they went with won't have the same issues.
@@tysonmaggard234 do you know what year they went down to 2 suppliers?
Anyone know where I can get an AM/FM radio?
How much is flat tappet conversion for a 2023 6.7 SO Cummins? Out the door.
7k give or take
Watching another channel, there was a thought or concensus that the failures we are seeing with the Cam/lifters were a supplier parts issue. The other channels said Ram got rid of those bad suppliers that moat of the failures were coming from during COVID.
Do you buy this?
We can only hope that diet plans become obtainable again. Word is they will be soon.
Are folks using the correct lubricant?
I don’t tow a lot nor do I ever plan to. But the $12.5k engine option and the inevitable expensive repairs of the diesels keeps me buying the cheaper gas models. The increased fuel economy will never pay for the engine cost. And then add in double the maintenance cost it just doesn’t make sense.
How much is a conversion cost
$8-13K plus installation
I don't know why they did this. Are they more reliable than before?
Do yoy have any input on the Banks Cold Air Input system causing a p0402 code on some 5th gen's? Thank you. 22 RAM 3500 drw longhorn limited h.o cclb 4.10.
Had a ‘14 1500 that had the “trans heater” valve stick open (or closed, whichever one is too hot). Overheated the trans pulling a trailer and was slipping gears. They shouldn’t have used those. My GM trans stays nice and cool.
Will a leveling kit void warranty?
Just sold my 2022 today based primarily on the fear of future lifter issues. From what I understand 22 was the worst year. Thought about doing the Hamilton but throwing that money plus the cost of fixing all the other potential engine issues just didn't seem worth it.
When you know what the worlds up to ya just know why they do what they do GOD BLESS
What percentage of lifters have been failing in these Cummins motors from what year on?
I have a 2019 Ram 1500 4x4 Classic, with a 5.7 liter Hemi. Is it normal for my truck to tick when doing a cold start, and stop after about 3 seconds?
If you just work on diesel’s then I understand. Just thought I would ask. Thanks!😎
It’s normal
Question - in 2025 what is the most reliable diesel made for a 1 ton pickup truck, powerstroke, duramax, cummins ?
Have you heard anything about the EPA not enforcing crackdowns on diesel emissions deletes under the new administration? I'm referencing TK's garage channel, he's been posting a lot of videos about it.
Ooooooh yes ❤ my 4th gen!!
I got a 2022 2500 with a 6.7 and wanted to ask your advice on the oil to use. I live in the pacific northwest and been using Rotella T5 10w-30 synthetic blend. Do you think that’s a good choice for this engine?
Question: what is the failure rate of cam/lifters on the 2021 6.7? I've been doing some research and it seems like a handful of 19's, very few 20-21, but 22 and up it spikes up quite a bit. It does appear the 22's are plagued with a list of other issues as well. Overall, it appears the 2021 may have the least amount of issues than other fifth gen model years? (Side note - I have an 06 5.9 with over 600k. In 19+ years, left me stranded only twice. Both times #5 fuel line cracked. I now carry one in the glove box)
I would agree that the roller lifter a problem but is there a way to extend the life of the lifters because let’s face it not everyone has 10 k to have a brand new engine torn down and have all new lifters and cam be put into these trucks. 90k is a lot of money for a throw away piece of equipment. Do they have the oils wrong. Should they be using a 0-40 or a 5-40 instead of of the 10-30 should the oil pan be redesigned so no oil is trapped in the sump
Is maintaining valve lash the only reason they went to hydraulic lifters? I really am lost to why they did this it’s not like the flat tappets aren’t proven to be more reliable.
Also less engine noise.
@ until they fail lol . But yes I guess for the diesel owner of today noise is a problem.