2020 Mercedes Benz GLE 450: A complicated SUV - FIRST DRIVE REVIEW
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Mercedes has made some significant changes to the 2020 Mercedes Benz GLE 450: Most importantly by engineering a novel 48v electrical system into this luxury SUV. In attempt to turn the tide away from overly complex luxury cars, Mercedes has made the 2020 Mercedes GLE both complicated and not complicated. Also complicated is an unbelievable round of our famous #OptionsGame . . .
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If Mercedes wants $100k for this vehicle, they need to justify their asking price by making it more reliable than a Lexus. This will be a nightmare to own once the warranty expires after 4 years.
Mateen S here’s what people usually don’t understand about “Lexus reliability”.... Lexus doesn’t ever push the limits in terms of technological advances. They use old tried and true power trains, switch gear, and chassis. They’re behind in pretty much all aspects when it comes to the Germans and now the even the Koreans. Nobody wants to keep a car out of their warranty because the customers who can afford to buy the car brand new in the first place, can just buy the new model year when they’re ready. It’s also an exaggeration to suggest the car is going to fall apart the day after the warranty expires. This car is worth 100K to the right buyer, the buyer who has money and wants the best and most current technology.
@@Calimustang86 have you seen the new LS, ES, and RX lately?
Alex Tran yes, I have seen them. I have a quite positive viewpoint of the new LS, ES, (2020) RX, and LC coupe. They’re pushing their limits in terms of style, because that’s really the only risk they can take as a company. I’m not denying that they’re good cars, I’m simply trying to explain why they’re “reliable”. The LS, ES, RX, and LC are all great vehicles in isolation. When compared to their natural class competition, however, they are underwhelming and they underperform.
Tyler Hampton Great comment. I would love to copy and paste this answer to all Lexus reliability drones.
Motoman - you've picked on a few random aspects to criticise. Consensus is that the third row of seats is not practical, so skip that option. The leg room in the rear is generous, except when YOU sit in the back.... The fancy E-active body control also not worth the money. For the rest, this car works well dynamically, and we would like to see you take it off road and tell us about it. Also do some trailer towing. This is a lifestyle utility vehicle, and that's how you should evaluate it.
Ill subscribe an await your video then....
The illuminated running boards are actually half the cost of the Volvo Xc90 ones. That option was quite interesting. Passenger seat setting being optional is ridiculous at this price point.
All good points and a nice review as usual, but I must say that the 2024 "facelift" version improves on many of these shortcomings, including the options menu, and adds welcome new features. I've been enjoying mine very much. Time will tell about its reliability, though...
33 k dollars in option ? I will wait 3 years and buy this same car for half the price 😉
A little misleading regarding the price. You get the premium package and the base air suspension for an out the door price of 66k. The premium package gets you the base burmester sound system and good tech. No one needs 21 inch wheels or heated arm rests or so much of the other options he listed. By the way, the base car with the 2 liter 4 cylinder and steel spring suspension on 19" wheels rides really well.
This is the best and most honest review for the gle450 i have ever seen so far. Appreciate your effort and thank you very much.
As a long time Mercedes owner, I have seen the complexity of the electronics increase tangentially! I bought an extended warranty for my S-Class. Thankfully, I didn’t have to pay a dime when the air ride suspension compressor gave out. What did that cost you might ask? $3,900 in Canadian funds. Oh, I almost forgot, one of my adaptive front headlight units needed replacement...cost...$2,800 Canadian. Moral of the story, if you plan to keep these premium vehicles for five years or longer, make sure you have an extended warranty in place. The power train won’t let you down...the electronics will.
Looks like Mercedes has been attending the Porsche school for options pricing.
Come back next week and you will see the Porsche Post Doc thesis on options pricing:)
the voice activation will work smother if you wait for her response and then give the command .
There is a midsized luxury crossover that will last 10years that you can give to your kid. The only problem is that it's a Lexus rx or acura mdx.
Could not agree more, but for me, it would be the Lexus. And that, a RC, GS or an LS.
Acuras usually have transmission issues with the V6 models.
@@MBisFrenchy I thought they'd moved on from the 2003 problem.
@@headcas620 Even the Tsx 4 cylinders had transmission issues for a friend at around 90K miles. The newer acura transmissions have a recall as they are jerky for the MDX. Tlx and RLX V6 recalls I haven't paid attention to.
As always, a fantastic review with valuable opinions. Yes, one can easily get astounded by the cost of a fully optioned Mercedes.....but one only has to compare it to a fully optioned domestic product - and there is no comparison. The Mercedes is simply a categorically and stratospherically improved experience. I own the latest flagship Escalade and Mercedes SUV's - and the Mercedes has so far outclassed the Escalade, that you can't even compare them. Yes, the G63 costs about double what the Escalade cost....but this is a "pay to play" sandbox. If the $150k-$200k price range is an issue for you - you are not the right customer for the car - including its eventual maintenance costs. Every time I drive a Domestic vehicle, I don't mind it.....it's just that the Mercedes is a much better place to be and there is no day that I am not excited to drive any of my Mercedes flagships. I could never say that with any of my Ford or GM flagship products. Everybody has their limits though. For example, the Bentley's and the Rolls' are out of my price range. Not that I can't afford them - I just can't "relax" with a half million dollar car sitting in the parking lot while I do groceries......but I have friends who can.......this is a great world!
Luxury SUVs aren't meant to last longer than 5-6 years. Planned obsolescence. All those fancy suspension bits will fail at 100k miles or less. If Lexus ever updates the GX, that's probably the only mid-size worth considering if you care about longevity.
Just purchased one a couple weeks ago and traded in our 9-year-old X5. Love the feel and way it drives, handles, the options, room, etc. The "My Mercedes" doesn't always understand things properly (which is so far annoying), and it literally has to "learn" you as a driver. Price wasn't that bad with trade-in, and it was mostly these same options, but a 350. MB has a 4yr/50K warranty and we added another 2/25k to that simply because every time our previous BMW broke down, it was a 500-2k repair bill. My suggestion...go test drive one and see for yourself.
With all those 48v systems (I don’t like to call them mild hybrids!) making their way down to mainstream vehicles, isn’t it going to be very complicated (and expensive) to maintain? Because I don’t think it’s a a matter of changing a water pump belt for example if it went wrong, all those accessories are integrated in the 48v system which I’m sure going to be very expensive to fix if it went wrong..... am I right or am I going insane ? Motoman what you opinion on this.
I'm a mechanic. Yes possibly however hybrid vehicles are basically this but using electric for the propulsion full time. Toyota has figured out the way to make it reliable, only time will tell if they're reliable on the german cars. My experience tells me I wouldn't be surprised if it develops issues.
WAYYYYYY too early to tell. However, this is something I am keeping a watchful eye . . . both here in cars like this as well as in the Aviation world. The 787s and A350s have an architecture similar in concept to this Mercedes EQ system. You can see a discussion of it here: ruclips.net/video/kVag2Ji-4pk/видео.html - Between the two, we can learn a lot about long term reliability of this concept. Stay tuned.
Every time I watch his videos the way he talks make me feel like a teenager being lecture and scolded by my dad lol
Thanks for watching and the following is meant in the most respectful way . . .I feel compelled to share a great saying I recently learned . . . 'There's something about that old boy I can't stand about me'.
It is a common opinion now that "the Germans" have a problem withstanding the test of time. My first memory of German luxury brands (BMW and Merc at that time) was 20 y.o. cars brought to Poland from Germany. That early 2000s.
Their cars were heavy, thirsty, quiet, comfortable and very reliable.
Nowadays we hear so much about issues with engines and suspension, not to mention all the electronic but these rarely last long anyway so I understand.
What has changed during these 20 years? Why these cars no longer hold the opinion of being reliable? Why these companies no longer seem to care about their brand being perceived as reliable?
In regards to reliability, because German cars put all these new technologies without testing them for some period, unlike, for example, Lexus, which only use tech that has been tested well for reliability before integrating it in their vehicles.
@@nicolasmikah4168 Also, the quality of mechanical components went down. Research about the class suit in USA related to mold.
The Germans used to be incredibly reliable, now they are just fancy toys that brake down right after the warranty.
Testing is obviously important, but it depends on the constant factors for testing - like what is the actual life of the vehicle. For most people it is longer than just warranty ;)
You're dead right...car manufacturers need to consider producing models that owners can keep for 20 years reliably without replacing components for double the value of the vehicle
Simms Silitshena the Land Cruiser will get that job done
They're not producing what they think you deserve, they produce what the market will pay for at the most efficient cost to them.... so in essence, whatever the rich folk say YES!! To at the minimal cost
You are only supposed to lease them for three years . Then poor guys can buy it at half the cost and pay for the maintenance
I'll be honest, I watch so many car reviews from all kinds of channels. But just from this review (being my first review I watched on this channel) and I'm already hooked on the way you reviewed the car! Very thorough, love how you went through the spec sheet and priced it too, and the detailed reasoning and dynamics explained in simple enough terms. Very nice! Keep it up!
Thanks, Richard! And welcome to our club!
Good to see this in the market! Looking forward to purchasing my 2020 Mercedes GLS from my local dealer!
MotoMan, it's a good thing I took my medication before watching your review of the new GLE - that sticker price would've put me on the floor for sure!
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A lot to go wrong at 65-99 k but that’s all vehicles Many better choices out there for much less nickle an dime option s pricing .semi electric need to go to 50/50 then it’s more justified an gaining real mpg advantage thanks for your expert analysis 😉
I like the look but I'll stick with Volvo. Rather Volvo added more options / packages. Driven and been a passenger for extended drives (traveling for 8+ hours) in a 17 XC90 T6 Inscription with air suspension. Even with the 21 inch wheels rides great. Would want to try the GLE air suspension.
You guys know I LOVE Volvos but as much as I am concerned about the complexity of this GLE, the Volvos are worse. EVERY Volvo I have had here in California has had *significant* problems. We're not talking just teething problems but concerning issues that impact drivability. One of the reasons you have not seen a Volvo on the show in a while.
@@MotoManTV I am concerned long turn with the super and Turbo charger on the car. Could you one day do a video on the issues you have had will all cars and their quirks. Your Motoman long term picks.
@@MotoManTV Can you elaborate on the concerning issues? I have a 2018xc60 and 40K miles in, still drives like butter
@@chinaragarwal3104 To be more clear longevity if the engine after 100K miles. So 10 years plus.
Is that really true that Mercedes patented the seat adjustment in the shape of the seat? I always wondered why no other car company ever used that little mini-me seat adjustment setup. Fascinating.
I agree.. when i spend this kind of money , i want the vehicle to outlast me...
Well, I ordered one optioned at 81K. It will arrive in a couple of weeks. Another informative and entertaining review. I love your channel.
I hope it will come , mine should have come last month and it wont come for the next two month. And there is no information from Mercedes, so im pretty frustrated :-(
@@danielurbich3056 Mine is in the build stage. I got my order in at the end first batch. It is schedule for shipment already for early next week. If I remember I will let you know if it suddenly gets delayed.
I picked it up last Friday. Weird thing is, it somehow shipped Wednesday, and arrived Thursday afternoon. Anyway it is awesome.
@@danielurbich3056 It did, I picked it up on 7 June. I had pretty much everything except the EABC. Those are not supposed be be out for many months. My dealer told me that if I had ordered EABC, it would not have arrived until early 2020.
@@tphillips63 I picked mine up today and I had ordered the EABC BUT it came without the Eabc and a couple of other Stuff I ordered. So I am happy to got this car but also a little bit angry , they didnt fullfill all my wishes. If I want the Car which i ordered I wouldnt get it till mid 2020. Thanks for your answers , appreciate that :-)
Lincoln needs to get the Aviator out the door already.
Funny, was just talking with some fellow car folks about that VERY topic two days ago. We came to the following conclusion: Lincoln knew the Aviator wasn't coming out any earlier than the fall but needed to get ahead of some of these big debuts so showed the car earlier than they should have. That said, you know I am not a Ford guy or even remotely interested in Lincoln but definitely looking forward to trying out the Aviator - in both flavors.
I love the way it looks. I just wish it was an ALL ELECTRIC vehicle.
Two thoughts:
1. Haven't watched your videos in a while (mea maxima culpa!!!), but I like the touch with the "choir" sound effects highlighting some of your comments.
2. I don't understand why Mercedes left the chance to blow the car over 100 K by adding some other options. I mean, how about a custom leather baggage set? How about some special polo shirts or sunglasses etc? They got sloppy!
Thank you for the kind words, Claus. Welcome back!
That said, Mercedes didn't leave ANYTHING on the table. There is an entire accessory catalog that has all sorts of things. Sidebar: As much as I like to have fun with these options list, I do genuinely appreciate the ability to custom build a car to your own taste.
Funny thing is:
I had seen another review of that Mercedes, and found especially the back... just not looking as good as it could. Sharing that problem with the Porsche SUV.
But now I like it. And the balance of technology and the usability both for those who like their cars simple, and those like me, who like it a bit nerdy, so to say, is especially well thought through.
Love your reviews. You are the best! I have wanted a Benz since I was 12. I am in the position to be buying cars that others return from their leases and then I drive them into the ground. I just can’t swallow the dependability issues, especially with the tech. I can’t stand the Lexus grill. It is just way too much. So, I am still looking. I will continue to watch your reviews and dream.
acoustic package keeps the noise outside by using more acoustic material in doors floors and use of acoustic glass
Can't imagine how much a fully loaded 2020 GLS is going to cost.
Alex Bailey It’s $96,320 fully loaded.
Then 5yrs later you get only $28,000 resale value for it? 😢😢
Never ever get the air ride suspension and you must shut off the stop and go it really damages the engine
That x7 angle from the front was AMAZING
Come back June 15 and you will see the whole thing . . . as well as more of Kumo. Next week is the Porsche Cayenne Turbo Coupe.
10 years and 2 shortblocks later with one airmatic shock working (sporadically) your kid would say thanks but no thanks
I purchased a loaded 2008 ML320 CDI new and put 115K miles on it - 215HP and 398 ft-lb of torque. Early on had the ECU replaced since it was throwing errors. At around 25K miles I chipped it to bump the HP up to around 235 and the torque up to 450. Averaged 28MPG, mostly highway driving. Had a couple issues with wheel speed sensors ($25), and one air strut ($400). Then my dad bought it from me, put a few thousand miles on it with no issue, then sold it to my half-brother. It has nearly 200K miles on it and on the way another air strut went. Only recently did my brother have to replace the front disk pads. I replaced the rear disk pads at around 100K miles (go figure). It's no GLE 450, but it continues to be a great vehicle.
@@hardchemist you don't realise it's 2019. The cars are designed to disintegrate in 10 years. First owner gets great experience until the warranty expires
@@kize32 Yeah I don't realize it's 2019. Lol.
@@hardchemist I owned a '97 ML 320 and had 245k miles on it before it dumped all the coolant and blew the motor. I love Mercedes.....as long as you properly maintain them and stay on top of your services and don't ignore ANY warning lights or put them off they can easily have 200k on them.
@@hardchemist also my step father owned 6 Mercedes from 1993 - present that were daily drivers and I think the least amount of miles he put on them was 150k.....he had a '93 400E, then a '97 E420, then an '05 E430, '12 S-Class, a '14 ML, an '03/'04 E55 AMG, and a SL 63 only problems he ever had out of any of them that he told me and I saw for myself was that they eat break pads.
Why didn't you show us all the cool stuff with E active suspension :/
My 1999 ML 320 finally became a farm vehicle at 300,000 miles it was brutally strong not overly complex this vehicle will not make 100,000 miles without some serious electronica related issues
With those options, you could buy a Miata RF... and still have enough left to buy some track day wheels and tires. Whew!
Good point:)
Your reviews are always what I come back to as they are well researched and detailed. I always wanted to buy the new GLE especially after watching this video. Finally I managed to afford it but not a 450. I ended up buying a almost brand new 300d for quite a bargain. My final thoughts now having watched this video for the 8th time, is that should I sell mine for a profit and buy a high mileage 450. The main reason being mine is coil springs and it seems the e-active body control is a very special an option to have and only comes in 450 with its 48v system. If you ever see this please do let me know is it worth to sell my fully optioned brand new 300d and buy a high mileage 450 just for the fancy air suspension. In fact mine doesn’t even have the normal air suspension. So please do let me know what you think is the wise thing to do. I do appreciate comfort over sportiness.
P.S. By the way has anyone told you that you look quite like the actor John Turturro. Keep doing what you do mate. Love it
Thanks for the feedback and the real world use case. That said, I would not suggest trading into a high mileage Mercedes. Especially one this complex. You are only asking for trouble . . . Plus, if I had a choice, I would want a diesel.
@@MotoManTV thank you so much for the reply. You made my mind. I will keep this one for the long. It does ride fine with coil springs. Plus with having all other options, there isn’t really anything else to complain. It has only done 7000km so pretty much close to brand new. Thanks again for the reply. Love your reviews. Best in the RUclips for car fanatics like me 🙏🏻
Pls come & buy it in Thailand . You will have no complain about it in your place sir. Good review.
Love review
I'm with you man. Too complicated, too many options and because of huge future repair bills, will depreciate like concrete in the Hudson.
You know it's a good one when MotoMan prays before reading the list. Holy crap! 36k in options! And most of them are options people will pick anyway ... Dang, Mercedes got a pretty good racket going on here.
I wonder if the X7 will compete with that one.
Mercedes sounds a lot like Cortana.
Always good to see Kumo making an appearance. 👍
Excellent work, M
We will both need to pray in advance of the coming round of the #OptionsGame in the X7 episode . . . Giving you advance warning: June 15.
@@MotoManTV Oh Lord, why do I have a feeling that it'll have the $6,000 blue Merino leather? 🤔
OF COURSE it did:) All I'm saying is this: There was SOOOO much to cover in this upcoming round of the #OptionsGame, Kumo & I had to change the studio around for that segment . . .
@@MotoManTV oh dear #MindBlown 🤯
You are absolutely right. This is why they lose value so quickly within 5 -10 years.
Complexity + high labor rates = high out-of-warranty maintenance costs, but it's still cheaper than buying a new car every three to five years. I have a 2007 BMW X5 that I bought used in 2013. I've spent $17K in maintenance cost in the six years I've owned it.
No body told you, BMWs are 5 year cars.After that,get a new one or something more reliable and long lasting after the warrantee ends.
I see your argument, but I think most of these are leased anyway. I think that might be a person's best option with all of this tech.
Loo
For that ridiculous price.... you get a car that will not last 10years
though really love the tech of this car
Ever since I rented the design travesty that is the Ford Taurus a couple months ago, that had heated and cooled leather seats (front and rear) and found out it retails for $26k... I've been saying luxury cars need to do better. Don't charge me for options that come standard in sub $30k vehicles... charge me for something better. Since we all accept Mercedes don't last beyond their warranty, maybe offer Robi the Robot arms that lift my cup out of the cup holder and present it to me... it's only got to last 4-5 years, so offer me something sub $30K cars don't have.
He spent the whole episode listing features of the car. Where do you get air suspension/road adaptive supsension/heated and vented cupholders on a 30k car? you don't. The Taurus starts at $27k and only comes standard with Heated/Vented seats at $37k. You sound pretty silly here lad.
@@Kystifyable You've never been in a Towncar service that used the Chrysler 300C have you? Heated and Cooled cupholders is pretty common in 30-40k American cars. Adaptive suspension is great, but my point is that Mercedes and it's brethren need to step up their game beyond base cars if they are going to charge for these features, which are trim features in a lot of new cheaper cars. I will say material quality is better in MB than Chrysler or Ford, but looking at used car site filters, most people order MB-Tex not leather... which is nice for pleather, but is still pleather.
@@echtogammut MKTech Again, your example defeats itself, a 300c retails for 41k which puts it in square price competition for a C300. And you said it yourself, material quality in that C300 will likely be better. So why does Mercedes have to build more compelling base cars when the car they sell has more *apparent* luxury in both its material quality and NVH characteristics? I'm all for hoping the Germans to build better cars but feature packing American chassis with worse fundamental luxury properties isn't the route imo.
@@Kystifyable I never talked about MB base cars, if anything MBUX on the A-Class, finally gave it something to marginally justify it's price increase over the competition. I'm not sure if the C-Class has MBUX yet and their non-top-spec C-Class's have to be the lousiest on the market for options. The last time I cross shopped them, they were still charging for keyless door (on a $75K AMG model at that).
We were talking about their middle of the range, (GLE, E-Class) which when spec'd with Ford Taurus Limited level options are $70k and don't have active suspension or any special features. I will concede about the 300/300c...they all look the same to me, so I assumed they were. The 'leather' in the 300c is easily the worst towncar leather I've experienced, the old Lincoln was better and my favorite has been the G90... but I digress.
I so agree with your white space comment. What if reliability came with all of the tech. What if you could get 200,000 miles from a $90k vehicle. Now you have a value proposition that is sought after. I had a 2010 German SUV. However as the technology and systems fail over time, i could not pass it on to my kid. I traded it in with a bearable amount of depreciation
Love the new GLE😍
Great review, as always. I take issue with this new model. I bought my wife a 2017 GLE350 with a ton of options. It’s just fine. Nothing special. Just fine. Even she misses her old 4Runner. Ultimately it was her choice, though. That being said, $70k+ for this segment is not worth it. I haven’t driven this new gen, obviously, but I really can’t see a value in it at this price point. Those options are just brutal.
I like this car cause it has that floaty smooth ride and the 12.3inch double thats just value for money to me
I beleive it rides in that cuddly plush floaty ride better than lexus Gs and x5
You agree?
Agree the option list is way too high dollars , but you can option much lower cost & still have a great SUV
2Greenlid shit that breaks down in 4 years isnt what anyone would call “great”
Arun Thampi not sure why you think the Merc will be broke in 4 years, I have a 7 year old E class that has never needed anything but scheduled maintenance, with 82,000 miles
@@2Greenlid I love Mercedes, have owned 2 W211 E-class and just got out of a '16 C63 but I would say you are one of the lucky ones...
Finally you give them something free on an expensive vehicle !!😂😂😂
I think you're right about the complexity, but that narrative doesn't sell cars in this day and age. However, you do have niche manufactures like ICON putting out cars that you can hand down to your grandkids.
Great review
Yes you are right
I got one in April. Skipped the active suspension and 3rd row seat and I am sitting @ $80.000.
Great Review, thank you
They make it a certain money pit by putting turbo on all their 2020 SUV lineup
Another review where the reviewer spends most of the time talking about the $8,100 worth of suspension options that most buyers don't pick.
10:00 The $350 is for passenger front seat memory. Not for power adjustment. Power front seats with driver memory is standard.
$97,000 and that one didn't even have the AMG line exterior for $3250 which makes it look good, including getting rid of the gray wheel wells.
I'm not sure every vehicle needs to be reliable for 10-15 years and passed down to your kids. I think the trade-off in reliability is to be expected when pioneering technology and convenience. I'm not sure a world with only reliable boring cars is the best one, I like seeing what the Germans can do.
10 years? That's where the Lexus LQ will fit in, in 2 years.
A vehicle that you can pass on to your kids. Sadly, that's becoming limited, in this case to a true off road vehicle, the 4 runner or in this price range the Land Crusier
You are right!
The 2017 model looks way better, I would definitely
skipped the 2020 model due to the BLAND LOOK, better off getting X5, PORSHE or ?
Great review!
vive you tube , vous etes les meilleurs
Good review
Is Apple CarPlay full screen?
No it is not. It is on the right screen only. It is large but has black bars on the sides, at least a couple of inches both sides. It is very clear and waze or streaming music apps work great on it.
It's on the right side screen, which is 12.3".
@@ryanpollock4092 Yes but is is not a wide screen view of the Apple Car play. Probably an Apple thing that they could update in the future.
I don't think I can operate modern vehicles. I miss buttons & knobs.
Imagine how good GLE 580 is.
Did you mention how the ‘hybrid’ system works?
Yep. In this episode: ruclips.net/video/6xt_sOgtHEs/видео.html
As well as this one: ruclips.net/video/kVag2Ji-4pk/видео.html
The touchscreen looks stuck on, as in glued on, to the panel behind it!! Seriously, is that the best Mercedes could do?
MB is a beautiful car but while Lexus is around I’ll give my money to Them
Mercedes always makes me proud
Beauty
Is this Motoman for real? He is wearing different colour shoes🤔
I hate the giant fake grilles on the front lower bumper
I love all of your videos, but brotha I couldn’t disagree more. I’m actually shocked you feel that the interior is nicer than the X5. I also think the Germans have a problem withstanding the test of time. As always though thanks for another great review and the overall knowledge shared.
Totally respect where you are coming from, Geovanni . . .
Just try Android auto it works far better with all cars, it's Apple that's the issue not so much the car companies
Somewhat behind the scenes, I do carry an Android phone with me so do test Android Auto on all the cars equipped with it.
@@MotoManTV Thank you! Looking forward to next episode!
Why the leather looks so bad?
Mercedes finally stole center console grab handles from Porsche Cayenne..
Build Indian no way, you mean the Kia Telluride, lmao
ML had them
@@jalmonte91 Nice try, porsche has been running with those grab handles for over a decade. What you meant to say is that Kia stole them from Porsche, like they steal everything else.
Truly not impressed. Maybe I'm jaded as I see the value of a Lexus or Lincoln SUV far greater than a MB, Audi or BMW.
honestly in terms of tech the Germans win hands down. This vehicle is amazing if you're young, starting a family and you have t he money. But Lexus has a way less complicated pricing strategy and offers luxury with longevity. It's like iphone vs nokia; the iphone will break easily but the nokia lacks the wow factor.
denziiey good comment until you got to the iPhone comparison, there’s nothing out there more reliable than an iPhone
@@jalmonte91 you're absolutely right! But it breaks easily which works well with the analogy that European vehicles while of excellent quality break easier.
It’s TRULY Complicated & Long Lengthy Wheel Base is Bumpy n Lot of BODY ROLLS & BACK Is Not Appealing, n in Turns it’s not Good
uhh you made a fuss about the power passenger seat...it's just the memory function that's the option of course it's power lmao even a cla is power lmao and for $350 that's not bad. And no shit they send journalists loaded cars bc it's better for reviews.
why not include the 350$ option in the base price
@@fearfactz1 Why not get suckers to pay $350 extra if they want a memory passanger seat
go with Lincoln...
MBUX Technology is AN OPTION?!?!?!? That. Is. Ridiculous.
AND as you pointed out? Tjey charge for an electric passenger seat? Really?!?!?!?!?
Crossed off the list.
Really old comment, but just to point out, the passanger seat is power as standard, the $350 just adds memory and some extra adjustablility in the form of a thigh extender and a power headrest. And MBUX is standard, the tech package just adds the HUD, a higher end processer for the computer, and the augmented reality thing.
this guy is talking rubbish don't listen to him
Another future money pit
Tell that to BMW.
Ridiculous, what’s it gonna do next ? Wipe our butts
Holy mother of God! $97K for mid range model?? No! Just no! And I own a GLE63s and an E63s wagon. Besides, the design is just not that appealing to me. The rear lights are just so, I don't know, down market? No personality. Let's see if AMG does anything with it. But as of now, I don't like what I'm seeing.
Love the review btw. Always impressed by your content MM. Love from Minnesota.
It's voice activation is still way behind BMW. 97K and they still can't get it right A joke. Mercedes has priced themselves too high on even leases now. I'd rather get a Porsche for less.
What if BMW and Mercedes-Benz merge ?
WAY tooooooooooo much tech for me. KISS Keep It Simple Stupid.
X5 is the boss in this segment
LoL
Also way more $
G55 the best than ml
If you want an ultra reliable truck that will last 10+ years that you can pass down to your kids, the Land Cruiser is the only real option.
And a 4Runner.
MotoManTV 4Runner you can pass to your kids for sure. The LC, that’s the one that keeps getting passed down generations. :-)
Meh, X5 x40i powertrain is better.
You have wrong.
What happened to premium Napa leather? All these expensive luxury vehicles all come with that low grade “crackly” looking leather. Need to upgrade to the AMG to get a nice smooth finish to the leather?
no it has Napa as an option
Jason Koning Oh goodie. Just crazy that you can option this thing to a similar price as my C63S and it still won’t have supple leather lol.