Good idea, i did the same but i used 2.5 in pvc 3 feet into the ground with a 2 3/8 in 12ft long corner post. Definitely doesnt seem like its going anywhere anytime soon. Love that you can take the poles out for the winter.
Thank you very much for this most helpful video. It seems you didn't skip any details in the entire project. I wanted a 6m x 3m shade for my tenants, and the contractors don't seem very keen to get the job started, even for the quoted $3,000. So I might have to do it myself.
Great suggestion for what to use for poles! As for attaching the sail to the top of the pole, it appears that you used fence rail end caps. Did you secure those on the top of the poles with the fence tension bands that are shown in the video at 0:57 below the caps or another method?
Thank you for sharing this. I might do this, but with 4 poles instead of two. I do not trust my builder to have built my house sturdy enough for the high gusts of winds we get frequently. So I do not want to connect sails to my house. Also, we do not have brick like you. I have hardy plank siding.
I want to put up a 20'x20' shade sail over my pool. Im considering going bigger on the poles, with 2 3/8" fence post and 2 1/2" pvc pipe. Does this seem like a good idea? Thanks @AdamWellborn
My pole in pole technique has a really snug fit, about two feet down. Although we don't get major wind in Atlanta, I'd think these would hold up on a Florida beach. @@MrLibertyFiend
Sorry I just saw your question. And thanks! So, I just stuck it on there. It's a friction hold. If friction had not worked, I suppose I would have used some universal glue from the hardware store.
Great idea and video. I also want easily removable poles. I want this kind of setup but to go across my pool so looking at building something similar but but more like 20' x 16' shade. I am thinking that maybe I need deeper hole, more concrete but not sure about maybe thicker poles although I can't actually imagine 1.5" galvanized steel poles bending. But I do not need it very high - maybe 6 ft above ground as I won't be walking under it. Any thoughts on this based on what you've done? Thanks
@@javierpaez6475 Not yet. I started digging the hole but having hard time with GA clay. But I mapped it all out. I abandoned the idea of fence posts and checked out metal gas piping from Home Depot. I plan on using 1" galvanized pipe which will fit snuggly into 1+1/4" galvanized pipe. So I will dig a hole maybe 3 feet deep and put in a 3' 1+1/4" pipe and that will be permanent w concrete around it. Then I simply slide in a 1" pipe into that one when I want the sun shade. Go to Home Depot or Lowes and check out the galvanized steel piping and you will see those suckers will not bend. You can always put in a 8 ft pole but start attaching it low at 5' and see how it works and move up as needed.
I like the idea of putting up a sunshade this way, but how snug is the fit between pvc and the metal pole? I fear a random high gust of wind might just pull it out. Any thoughts?
We have had wind recently that snapped pine trees in half. Those sails are still there and hanging tight like the day I put them up! The surfaces oftern accumulate leaves, and I just blow them off with the blower
I can't find anyone selling 1 3/8" top rails. The manufacturers seem to have switched to a smaller diameter pole which they express as a fraction "1.315 inches". 1 3/8" converts to 1.375 inches when expressed as a fraction. I searched Home Depot, Lowes, and several other places online. They still advertise them as 1 3/8" but they're not. Also, the end caps are still made for 1 3/8" poles so they won't fit. I am using 1 1/4" PVC with this smaller pole. Not as snug, I might have to come up with something I can wrap around the pole to create a seal at the PVC.
I really wanted to go with this method but you are correct that they are not 1 3/8 and will not fit into 1 1/2" pvc. How did using 1 1/4" pvc work for you? How were you able to make it a snug fit?
I’m really inspired by this method and is planning to do the shade sail and string light this way. Can I ask what diameter was the holes and how many bags of dry concrete did you used for the 3 poles?
If you take the fence post method, the hole should big enough for the pole, and a pole on either side of center. In this case the post hole digger seems to be oversized for the job but unless you do this as a profession it’s better as a home owner to do that little extra… One thing the video doesn’t mention. Thaw cycles. Check your area to see how bad the frosts are. Water that ices and thaws can push a pole out of the ground slowly over time. If your planning a shoes term installation this won’t matter as much but for a long term installation you want your pole and cement to be deep enough that it’s under the thaw line. It’s not something to worry about in certain parts of the world, is YT so there’s no telling where anyone reading this lives.
How do you hang the shade into the poles? Do you install anchors on the poles too?
Good idea, i did the same but i used 2.5 in pvc 3 feet into the ground with a 2 3/8 in 12ft long corner post. Definitely doesnt seem like its going anywhere anytime soon. Love that you can take the poles out for the winter.
Thank you very much for this most helpful video. It seems you didn't skip any details in the entire project. I wanted a 6m x 3m shade for my tenants, and the contractors don't seem very keen to get the job started, even for the quoted $3,000. So I might have to do it myself.
Hey you can do it! It's good exercise and you'll save about $2,800 bucks!
Love the breakdown. good stuff. looking forward to trying this on my own back deck! thanks AW
Have you done yours yet? I wanna see!
Great suggestion for what to use for poles! As for attaching the sail to the top of the pole, it appears that you used fence rail end caps. Did you secure those on the top of the poles with the fence tension bands that are shown in the video at 0:57 below the caps or another method?
Thank you for sharing this.
I might do this, but with 4 poles instead of two. I do not trust my builder to have built my house sturdy enough for the high gusts of winds we get frequently. So I do not want to connect sails to my house. Also, we do not have brick like you. I have hardy plank siding.
I want to put up a 20'x20' shade sail over my pool. Im considering going bigger on the poles, with 2 3/8" fence post and 2 1/2" pvc pipe. Does this seem like a good idea? Thanks @AdamWellborn
Sounds smart to me. Just make sure that the metal post slides into the pvc at the store to avoid mistakes. Best of luck!
@AdamWellborn There's little chance of wind blowing a pole out of a hole? I would take down if a major storm is coming of course
My pole in pole technique has a really snug fit, about two feet down. Although we don't get major wind in Atlanta, I'd think these would hold up on a Florida beach. @@MrLibertyFiend
That’s a clever idea and an amazing video. Would you mind sharing how you keep the rail end cap secured on the posts? Thank you for sharing.
Sorry I just saw your question. And thanks! So, I just stuck it on there. It's a friction hold. If friction had not worked, I suppose I would have used some universal glue from the hardware store.
Great idea and video. I also want easily removable poles. I want this kind of setup but to go across my pool so looking at building something similar but but more like 20' x 16' shade. I am thinking that maybe I need deeper hole, more concrete but not sure about maybe thicker poles although I can't actually imagine 1.5" galvanized steel poles bending. But I do not need it very high - maybe 6 ft above ground as I won't be walking under it. Any thoughts on this based on what you've done? Thanks
Did you end up doing this? I am planning on doing mine for my 20x20 shade sail but not sure if it will work. Worried the poles will bend
@@javierpaez6475 Not yet. I started digging the hole but having hard time with GA clay. But I mapped it all out. I abandoned the idea of fence posts and checked out metal gas piping from Home Depot. I plan on using 1" galvanized pipe which will fit snuggly into 1+1/4" galvanized pipe. So I will dig a hole maybe 3 feet deep and put in a 3' 1+1/4" pipe and that will be permanent w concrete around it. Then I simply slide in a 1" pipe into that one when I want the sun shade. Go to Home Depot or Lowes and check out the galvanized steel piping and you will see those suckers will not bend. You can always put in a 8 ft pole but start attaching it low at 5' and see how it works and move up as needed.
I like the idea of putting up a sunshade this way, but how snug is the fit between pvc and the metal pole? I fear a random high gust of wind might just pull it out. Any thoughts?
We have had wind recently that snapped pine trees in half. Those sails are still there and hanging tight like the day I put them up! The surfaces oftern accumulate leaves, and I just blow them off with the blower
I can't find anyone selling 1 3/8" top rails. The manufacturers seem to have switched to a smaller diameter pole which they express as a fraction "1.315 inches". 1 3/8" converts to 1.375 inches when expressed as a fraction. I searched Home Depot, Lowes, and several other places online. They still advertise them as 1 3/8" but they're not. Also, the end caps are still made for 1 3/8" poles so they won't fit.
I am using 1 1/4" PVC with this smaller pole. Not as snug, I might have to come up with something I can wrap around the pole to create a seal at the PVC.
Yeah, I'd probably wrap some duct tape around it. Man, they keep shrinking the materials and going up on the cost.
I really wanted to go with this method but you are correct that they are not 1 3/8 and will not fit into 1 1/2" pvc. How did using 1 1/4" pvc work for you? How were you able to make it a snug fit?
I’m really inspired by this method and is planning to do the shade sail and string light this way. Can I ask what diameter was the holes and how many bags of dry concrete did you used for the 3 poles?
Great to hear! I used about 3/4 of a bag per hole
If you take the fence post method, the hole should big enough for the pole, and a pole on either side of center.
In this case the post hole digger seems to be oversized for the job but unless you do this as a profession it’s better as a home owner to do that little extra…
One thing the video doesn’t mention. Thaw cycles. Check your area to see how bad the frosts are. Water that ices and thaws can push a pole out of the ground slowly over time. If your planning a shoes term installation this won’t matter as much but for a long term installation you want your pole and cement to be deep enough that it’s under the thaw line. It’s not something to worry about in certain parts of the world, is YT so there’s no telling where anyone reading this lives.
Will this hold up on 50 mile winds? I'm in Chicago and we get wind.
Probably so. With the use of concrete 2 foot deep at installation and the best brick anchors available, this should probably hold up in 50 mph winds.
How are the shades attached to the poles? Did you use special hardware?
0:57 mark of the video shows the aluminum caps that I put on top of the poles to run the rope through. Good question!
Is that a single brick wall ?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by "single brick wall". I attached to one brick wall, that is one brick thick. Hope that helps.