He accuses us teachers of indoctrinating students, then makes a law saying that we have to indoctrinate our students, but only with what he believes. I am a Christian, but choice of religion should be dealt with in the home, not public school. This is crazy! This will not make or help students' learning improve. It will make more teachers leave the profession.
Every accusation is a confession. If they claim teachers are indoctrinating kids then they actually want to indoctrinate our kids. The same with any other accusations, especially in the name of protecting the kids.
He's intentionally diverting attention away from his poor performance by using the bible to emotionally manipulate voters. He knows a large percentage of Oklahomans are conservative bible believing Christians who'd cheer him on for such bs. I had to complain a month ago to a Coweta, Ok school about my son's kindergarten teacher telling the class that "God did it" when explaining caterpillar metamorphosis. My brother is a Baptist preacher in Ada,Ok who homeschools his 6 kids while teaching them dinosaurs were on Noah's ark and evolution is fake news. We have some serious problems with belief affecting the education of our kids in Oklahoma. I'm considering moving to another state. We're becoming Oklahomistan. Indoctrinating children hurts their future potential and opportunities for success. It's psychological abuse to try to manipulate a child into becoming a narcissistic minime. We should all try our best to teach our kids HOW to think, now what to think.
@@russellharrell2747 It seems that when "I" teach what I believe, it's "education". When someone else teaches something "I" don't believe in, it's "indoctrination " or even "brainwashing". Seems like everyone frames things this way.
If we have any teachers left. Between trying to put guns in schools and forcing them to indoctrinate children into Christianity, I’d think a lot of them would be fed up.
hey he wasn't there, he left early because he was spouting nonsense about making washington a king, so he really didn't have any imput into the document it was wilson, ben, and madison who wrote the constitution, you could throw in a couple more...but hamilton had almost zero contributions, so now snarky but fake data.
If I were one of those teachers I would put a copy of the nrsv on the shelf right next to a quran, book of mormon, bhagavad gita, sayings of Confucius, tao te ching, and Scott Cunningham's intro to solitary wicca.
I would suggest a copy of The God Delusion and Demon Haunted World be included. If you are going to require the students to study religion, why not include the arguments *against* religion?
That's the point. It will be shot down, and they will ensure their reelection claiming that atheist trans communist activists are trying to destroy society and they are the only ones fighting back.
Basically this is the kind of hatefulness that is destroying western civilisation, trying to drag us back to the dark ages. With SCOTUS as corrupt as it is the breakdown of law and order is accellerating.
It's a political stunt. When some court rules against him, he'll claim he "stood up for the bible" and fought against anti-christian persecution. Then run for governor.
"In open and knuckle-dragging defiance of the actual principles that undergrid the nation." - Tell us how you really feel, Dan. 🙂 Bravo. There's a reason my wife and I are planning to home school.
So true! I was an evangelical christian for 20 years, and only "read" the bible with major input from the pulpit. Once I started questioning the church and left to seek god and god alone, I actually began studying the bible and other resources that were taboo in the church. About 8 years into a decade long deep dive into the bible, its mythology, origins, what it ripped off, etc. I realized I was an atheist. YAAAYYYYYYY!!!
@goodnight787 Pardon? I did not understand what you were trying to say. Are you saying it cannot be good that this man, who you admit not knowing, does not revolt you? You are homeschooling but cannot effectively communicate when writing. That is concerning.
@@Marco-xy7nd sorry I was in the wind talk to texting. *I do not much about this man therefore I can't agree that "he revolts me". I can agree that this policy passed is not good and will not go well.
So if two years from now, if there's no meaningful improvement in state academic results, will this superintendent submit to being locked in a pillory in a public square while onlookers throw hardcover Bibles at his head until he gets the gods-damned point?
I live in Oklahoma and this superintendent has been notorious for stuff like this. He's absolutely horrible. I am embarrassed for our state. I am, however, glad that this will almost certainly be subject to lawsuits and shut down in the courts.
This is possibly the most dangerous period in the life of the USA. The founding fathers had a unique opportunity to create a new nation from scratch. They grasped it with both hands and did something truly wonderful. How sad then to see what recent generations of, mainly republican, politicians have done with that legacy. The separation of church and state was one of the things that allowed the US to become great, free from the influence of religion and its bedfellow monarchy, that had so befouled Europe, causing centuries of oppression, warfare and death. And now the Christian right and the Republican party want to throw all that away by going back to a time when the religious thinking of a minority oppressed the silent majority. Once we indoctrinate children's minds with one specific version of religious thought and one that denies so much of what we have learned from science, we raise generations of people who will be unable to compete on the world stage and we will, without doubt, see the USA sink into a backwards theocracy, left behind as the rest of the world surges, ever faster, into a bright scientific and technological future. If this behaviour is allowed to continue and grow, our children's children will look back on today and say that we oversaw the death of a once great nation.
Your founding peeps were benevolent intellectuals who deserved their positions on merit and reputation. What we are seeing here is the result of western society feeding the "rise of mediocrity". We listen to movie stars and sports people instead of scientists and subject matter experts. Media represents spin and headlines for clicks. Everyone is right, and a "belief" is now as strong and given as much importance as evidential fact.
The basis of our legal system is English common law, not the Bible. Our main legal document, the U.S. Constitution, never mentions the bible anywhere. It does mention religion a few times, but only in the context of keeping religion out of government.
Actually it is headed to be a Feudal System. Just check out who is a billionaire. They will be your lords, and lords use the church to control the Serfs.
If I were a headmaster at a school in Oklahoma I'd mount a Bible in a glass box on the wall of every classroom, and connect it to an alarm. As for teaching from the Bible: teachers are fortunately very creative and will use the Bible to teach exactly the opposite of what is intended by this official.
A chance for an object lesson for the kids. "Notice how I have a copy of the bible in a box with a padlock? Here I am smashing the key so I can't open it. This it called a protest!"
Actually I was thinking that if you have a Bible in every classroom, you should also have the holy books of all the major religions (in translation if necessary).
@@leom6343Evangelists spread their word through preaching, Evangelists are not the problem. Literally anyone who uses scripture to espouse their views falls under Evangelism. Christian Dominionists are the problem.
Yes, they should teach _everything_ about the Bible. Like how zombies rose from the dead when Jesus was crucified. Or how eating some animals like pigs is an affront to heaven. Or how Lot offered his daughters to the townsfolk. Or how Moses wanted to kill even babies for being in a different tribe. Or how slavery was because Noah got angry at his son for laughing at him while he was naked. And many more. You know, _even the weird, terrible stuff_ that's in the Bible.
I live in Oklahoma and my kids attend public schools here. My friends - which includes teachers- are livid. But we also know this is a petty, attention seeking stunt by him. The day before he announced this, the Oklahoma Supreme Court shot down his and his state board of education’s ill-advised approval of a Catholic charter school. Our Attorney General told them they could not do that, but they did- so the AG took them to court and slapped their hand. He also tried to dictate what books a local school district couldn’t have in their libraries at the threat of their accreditation. Once again out AG smacked him down saying he had no authority over the district to choose library books.
I, for one, am glad that they are finally going to do something to address this epidemic of kids thinking that it's okay to boil a baby goat in its mother's milk, or to not celebrate the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
And forgetting to sleep outside overnight during the harvest feast and reaping to the corners of the fields instead of letting the poor glean. And let's not forget that we haven't celebrated the Jubilee where all debts are forgiven and property reverts to those who mortgaged it or rented it out.
This is virtue signalling. One state puts the 10 Commandments in every classroom, so another says, "well we're putting the whole Bible in every classroom and requiring it to be taught." The next state will include prayer before each day and the next will introduce chapel services. They're all just trying to out-Christian the next guy running forvoffice.
Vice signaling. There is no virtue in using the power of the state to force a religion down anyone’s throat. The goal here is a Christian theocracy, but a theocracy based on evangelical fundamentalist Christianity. Once they have power, they will make their denomination compulsory and classify other denominations as heretical. Ultimately it’s not really about Christianity. It’s about political power.
John Adams in the Tripoli Treaty stated that the US had nothing to do politically with Christianity. Besides the Bible is an eastern document not western.
"The bible is an eastern document" No, it isn't 😂 It is, if anything, a shining example of why this archaic notion of Orientalism (that's all the West-Divide has ever been) is entirely nonsensical given the Levant is squarely in the middle of Eurasia. But if we are going to give into the absurdity, then the Bible is objectively a western document as it was written in Greek and spread most prolifically in Europe (aka Western Eurasia). It is ONLY an 'Eastern Document' if you are standing at the Western Extreme.
@@thomaswillard6267the larger portion of the Bible, the Hebrew Bible, is mainly composed in Hebrew with some Aramaic. It is very much a product of Semitic culture, but the east/west divide is silly, I agree. Still, only the NT was composed in Greek
@@thomaswillard6267 Where the west start geographically??? Yes the Greco romans highjacked the story and made up a sur-mesure religion that fit their need.
Before i listen. Should be left at home where parents, who actually think this through, would really want it. So many questions arise...Will teachers have to sign a doctrinal belief, what values, principles, beliefs will be acceptable to teach?
Every teacher in every classroom? So in 10th grade math they are going to teach.. what exactly? What’s in the Bible to learn? The genealogy of the tribes of Judah? David having his general shipped to the front lines because he knocked up his wife? What are we even doing here??
Gilgamesh should be mandatory reading, I've read ~ a dozen different translations. It is kind of like Gobekli Tepe, it was built before The Bible's Creation.
@@thomaswillard6267 I'm not sure why an argument would be needed here. The current standard is not having the Bible or Epic of Gilgamesh as mandatory reading in every classroom. One would need to put forth an argument to change that. The one presented by this government official was pure and utter nonsense. So a simple answer of no suffices
@@getasimbeAn argument is needed because you're responding to an argument. Not sure if you noticed but you weren't responding to the government official, you were responding to someone making an argument. Their argument being that as the oldest story recorded, as the common Heritage of all mankind, that the Epic of Gilgamesh should be mandatory reading for people, To just say "No, neither should be mandatory" is a shallow non-argument dismissive of what the other person was trying to say. Which just struck me as anti-intellectual and at the very least if not insulting, disrespectful to what they were trying to say If you feel that the original comment is all that's warranted, then feel free to stop replying. But the fact that you're acting as if you were replying to the argument made by the government's official, definitely reeks of anti-intellectualism, as in you simply did not think before you acted
I had to read Gilgamesh at some point. Can't recall if it was high school or middle school. But it was definitely mandatory reading in some school districts at one point in time.
I am looking forward to the brave teachers who will inevitably use this as an opportunity to teach their students the facts that antebellum slave laws were directly based on the slave laws in the Torah
Just as it is with alcohol, there should be a law establishing an age restriction to teaching any religion to children, say 14 or 16. They must first be taught critical thinking skills and pass a proficiency test before reaching this restriction age. Learning a religion should not be mandatory.
@@KateGladstone I don't. Humanity hasn't progressed enough. Maybe in another century or two, if we don't end our planets ability to support living organisms.
It's so dumb. If he was really being genuine about it being a historical document, he'd decree that "We should teach the influence of the Bible in HISTORY CLASS", but that's not what he said--he said every classroom. What does having the Bible in a PE class have to do with teaching history?
When the Biblebis on display in math class, will the law allow - or forbid - opening it to the chapter and verse which teach that pi = 3? (That’s I Kings 7:23, if you want to read it and ch3ck for yourself.)
Teaching the Bible & the 10 Commandments, absolutely not! The Golden Rule, which is a component of every religion on the planet: Love one another, and love each other as yourself, DEFINITELY YES!
Maybe skip the supernatural window dressing, and just do a unit on Kantian ethics. Enlightenment philosophy is going to be much more relevant to the founding fathers, anyway.
As someone who was groomed and indoctrinated from early childhood by the church using the bible; and a bible college student. Unfortunately, it will be a bias teaching of the bible and not an honest teaching. Even when the bible has been taught in public schools as an elective course. It is a bias teaching, not honest.
@@duncansonoryan I taught bible in public schools as an elective course. It's usually taught by bible college graduates and taught as inerrant. The same way it is taught in conservative churches.
It's good to know why da Jooz gots no excuse - ` ` It is ~worse~ to contradict a Scribe (*) than to contradict the Bible" (-the Orthodox Jews' Talmud, Folio 11, ParaGraph 88). __________________ ★ == an Expert in Moses's Laws and in the Traditions of the Religious Government of Roman Palestine, or of exiled Jews, > A D. 70.
@@talkofchrist "no inerrancy" never meant that whole commandments are false or were not given by God and was not believed by Jesus or Paul or the 12 apostles. It only meant that small mistakes are okay. So you dont "love" the Bible. You love to cherry pick what fits to you and what not🤣 by the way, Jesus in the Nt confirmed the whole Tanakh/OT he knew. So does Paul. So you arent even a believer to them.
@@leom6343 I'm afraid I don't understand most of your statement. Your first sentence has six negatives and four conjunctions in it. Then you claim to know my own emotions better than I do. Finally, you somehow know what Paul and Jesus think about me, personally. So... I'm not sure how to respond.
@@talkofchrist you just admitted that you dont love the bible but only the passages you like. And i know that the Jesus of the Nt confirmed the whole torah, word for word. Paul confirmed the whole Torah too. You go against both of them and Jesus of the Nt went off against the Pharisees for less. The apostles went off against Paul for less.
The Mahabharata purports to be history. I look forward to it sitting next to the bible in every Oklahoma classroom. They’re going to need to build some big-ass shelves though.
This is also a political stunt as he is setting himself up to run for Governor. He has attacked Tulsa Public Schools for the same reason - politics. Believe it or not this is a guy who used to teach AP History is high school. According to his former students he never made such outrageous claims as a teacher. It's political theater.
⏱️Dan McClellan is a national treasure. It's crazy but I still try to live by the sermon on the mount every day even though I lost my faith. Maga finally convinced me my faith was a fool's errand. Their ability to believe in anything without evidence was the final slap of reality.
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My mom has a house next door so they would try to get from one house to the other safely under the light... The thing is they totally love horror movies now and that's because I did my little evil deed lol
It's hard for me to believe something like this could happen, and that announcement, good lord probably every Christian there is applauding with great zest and vigor.
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I am from Oklahoma and recently went there for my mom’s memorial service. I took an Uber from Will Rogers IA to my aunt’s in Norman. My driver is a teacher. I am a former teacher now principal in Colorado. He asked me if I know who Ryan Walters is. I didn’t at that time. Teachers can’t stand him and now I know why.
A high school teacher of mine in the 90s (in Canada) proposed a world religions themed history class, which was optional. He described it as examining the impact various world religions had. However once he actually got around to submitting his curriculum it was obvious he just wanted state funding to run a baptist sermon class and planned to spend a single day on all other world religions. So his class proposal was quickly shot down.
How about all the other 18,000 plus religions. Are they going to have their "commandments" wallpapered up in each classroom as well and teach from their holy books? It's seems over fair. This is just another ploy from politicians to divide the country and give them more power and control.
This is a perfect opportunity for someone with a lot of expertise in critical study of the Bible to come up with a curriculum that teachers can use to shatter the concept of biblical inerrancy and univocality in schoolchildren before their church has had a chance to indoctrinate them. Maybe next time fundamentalists want to shove a book down children’s throats they’ll read it first.
Good point...assuming someone will have the courage to do that. Yes, teach the Bible for what it really is: grotesque and barbaric mythology with a few "nice" passages.
As someone who went to Catholic school, I'm going to admit that we didn't really read the Bible in class, but rather learned aspects of our religion. The only time I really studied the Bible was in college as part of a theology class. So yeah. This ain't gonna be a sustainable thing.
I went to Catholic schools and my junior year in high school we *did* read the entire Bible precisely because my teacher wanted to counter the argument that Catholics do not read the Bible. However, I would say that even outside of that, we got just as much exposure going to Mass. Most Protestants don’t really read the Bible, either. They read (or have read to them by preachers) selected passages and ignore the rest. Not so different than Catholics.
@@OldMotherLogo I honestly don’t understand this. I’m no longer Christian, but as a teen I read the Bible on my own… because why wouldn’t you? (Admittedly there was some skimming-but I was a terrible student generally, and I put more effort into the Bible than any subject I was actually being graded on.) If you believe you have literally the MOST IMPORTANT BOOK IN THE WORLD, one that supposedly contains deep wisdom, moral instruction, the secrets of the universe, and the keys to _eternal life,_ why wouldn’t you read it? Even if you were concerned that you couldn’t understand it without guidance, why wouldn’t you seek out that guidance?
@@nw42 Bart Ehrman tells a story about at the beginning of his class - and he teaches Bible history in North Carolina - he will ask the students how many have read The DaVinci Code and almost every hand in the class will go up. And then maybe he will ask how many have read any of the Harry Potter books and, again, a majority of the hands go up. Then he asks how many have read the entire Bible. MAYBE one hand will go up. And he says, if you think you love God and want to obey him, and God wrote a book, don’t you think you would want to see what he had to say? Yeah, it’s funny that as much as people want to say they are guided by it, most of them haven’t really read it.
@@OldMotherLogo Similar, though even more inexcusable, are “constitutionalists” who’ve never read the U.S. Constitution. “‘Slavery is never mentioned in the Constitution’? Ah, so I see you never made it through Article 1.” It really is all about identity markers…
Just a minor nerd note Hogwash like the Okie is spewing has been around long before Social Media ( Find an old Reader's Digest 😏) But Social Media allows them to link arms to throw their weight around
2nd Chronicles 7:14-“If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”
Either the whole bible including the bad commandments and the scholarly opinions or nothing. If it will be the first, we will have many more atheists. Cherry picking he can do at home.
I was actually on board with his very first statement. Even Richard Dawkins writes that people should know what's in the Bible because of the enormous cultural importance of these texts and the countelss references to them in our culture and literature.
The Bible is indeed historically relevant to Western Civilization (sadly). But of course these MAGA cultists would never advocate teaching it from an academic standpoint.
I don't see his main point about the significance of the Bible in shaping society and our need to understand it to be that bad of an argument. The conclusion is what doesn't follow from the facts. We don't need Christianity or it's relics to be pushed in every classroom in order to learn about it.
I wish there was religion taught in schools. Not a religion, but several. The de facto Christianity of most people wouldn’t survive exposure to other’s beliefs, and at the very least would promote tolerance.
If they are going to teach religion in school, then they should also teach the arguments *against* religion in school, give it equal time. Include The God Delusion and Demon Haunted World in the curriculum.
I love the Bible. I am a Christian; I read the Bible and worship with it every day. To answer the question of the title: HECK NO! Of COURSE NOT! I would never want my children learning about the beautiful and wonderful Bible as controlled by American Evangelicals' false religion.
Beautiful and wonderful? The God of the Bible condones genocide, chattel slavery, misogyny, infanticide, etc. It's awful. Jesus as depicted in the NT is a ruthless authoritarian (all non-believers suffer "eternal punishment"--Matt. 25:46). There are thousands of Christian denominations but YOU get to decide which are "false"? MAGA evangelicals aren't a perversion of Christianity. They're just Old School.
John Adams said, “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Morality and virtue are the foundation of our republic and necessary for a society to be free. I wonder whose morals and what religion he was referring to? Also I live in Alabama and there’s already kids in the public school here transitioning, identifying as “gay”, and some even think there farm animals. Elementary students at that. I can’t imagine what a public school is like in more liberal states. Teaching the kids the 10 commandments can’t make the public school system any worse I can promise you that.
Well, for every "good" moral in the Bible, there is also a bad one. After all, you can beat your slave as long as he doesn't die. Guessing that will fit in well down in ole Bama. And this video is actually about the Bible and not the commandments. The commandments say you must worship the Christian God above everything else. Are you going to force children to believe in a God that their parents don't believe in? Doesn't sound very "free" to me.
@@markb3786 well if your not a Christian I’d like to know how you know anything to be good or bad? How can evolved pond scum do good or bad things? Richard Dawkins in his book garden out of Eden said there is no good no bad just blind pitiless indifference. Seems like that would be the consistent professed atheist position. And I can’t force anyone to believe anything. But a good start is to teach it as something one ought to believe. And I’ve always been kind of confused by the “free” thing. There’s all kinds of things we can’t do in this “free” society. Try to not pay your taxes and see how free you are. Live in a liberal state in a liberal city and work for a liberal company and say you don’t want an experimental fauci ouchie injected in your arm and see how free you are. Or go to California and say men can’t get pregnant and men shouldn’t play on women’s sports teams and see how free you are. lol
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He accuses us teachers of indoctrinating students, then makes a law saying that we have to indoctrinate our students, but only with what he believes. I am a Christian, but choice of religion should be dealt with in the home, not public school. This is crazy! This will not make or help students' learning improve. It will make more teachers leave the profession.
Every accusation is a confession. If they claim teachers are indoctrinating kids then they actually want to indoctrinate our kids. The same with any other accusations, especially in the name of protecting the kids.
Yes. Good points.
He's intentionally diverting attention away from his poor performance by using the bible to emotionally manipulate voters.
He knows a large percentage of Oklahomans are conservative bible believing Christians who'd cheer him on for such bs.
I had to complain a month ago to a Coweta, Ok school about my son's kindergarten teacher telling the class that "God did it" when explaining caterpillar metamorphosis.
My brother is a Baptist preacher in Ada,Ok who homeschools his 6 kids while teaching them dinosaurs were on Noah's ark and evolution is fake news.
We have some serious problems with belief affecting the education of our kids in Oklahoma. I'm considering moving to another state. We're becoming Oklahomistan.
Indoctrinating children hurts their future potential and opportunities for success. It's psychological abuse to try to manipulate a child into becoming a narcissistic minime.
We should all try our best to teach our kids HOW to think, now what to think.
Making teachers leave is part of the goal. They want to end pub ed.
@@russellharrell2747 It seems that when "I" teach what I believe, it's "education". When someone else teaches something "I" don't believe in, it's "indoctrination " or even "brainwashing".
Seems like everyone frames things this way.
I hope teachers start using Dans videos as part of their mandatory bible classes
Wonderful idea
If we have any teachers left. Between trying to put guns in schools and forcing them to indoctrinate children into Christianity, I’d think a lot of them would be fed up.
This is why your ancestors were thrown out of Europe. You guys need to tune down the religiosity a 'lil bit.
From the very beginning of these United States, the Bible has been a mighty tool for resisting progress.
@@NWPaul72 YES!
So true, well said!
i like how he just summarised hamilton's response down to " Nah, I'm good. "
hey he wasn't there, he left early because he was spouting nonsense about making washington a king, so he really didn't have any imput into the document it was wilson, ben, and madison who wrote the constitution, you could throw in a couple more...but hamilton had almost zero contributions, so now snarky but fake data.
If I were one of those teachers I would put a copy of the nrsv on the shelf right next to a quran, book of mormon, bhagavad gita, sayings of Confucius, tao te ching, and Scott Cunningham's intro to solitary wicca.
I would suggest a copy of The God Delusion and Demon Haunted World be included. If you are going to require the students to study religion, why not include the arguments *against* religion?
@@OldMotherLogoTeach the controversy!
@OldMotherLogo how could i have forgotten? Good suggestion
Add Bonewit's book on the study of Druidry 😊
Don’t forget the Poetic Edda’s/Norse Mythology.
This debunking should be massively shared. The USA is moving from a democracy to a theocracy.
This is proof that this state official needs to go learn his history better.
He was a History teacher.
@@teresakarnes3834who needs to go learn history
@@quash8Agreed.
He knows history perfectly well. He just chooses to ignore it because he’s a politician.
The western world has largely been influenced by Judeo-Christian values, the idea that this is not history is simply to be ignorant of history.
Why they keep wasting taxpayer money and time. They will be a lawsuit and blah blah blah. This is madness🙄🙄🙄
The reason is simple. They think it will eventually go to the U.S Supreme Court. They hope the religious conservatives will rule in their favor
That's the point. It will be shot down, and they will ensure their reelection claiming that atheist trans communist activists are trying to destroy society and they are the only ones fighting back.
Two words: culture war
or alternatively: identity crisis
Basically this is the kind of hatefulness that is destroying western civilisation, trying to drag us back to the dark ages. With SCOTUS as corrupt as it is the breakdown of law and order is accellerating.
It's a political stunt. When some court rules against him, he'll claim he "stood up for the bible" and fought against anti-christian persecution. Then run for governor.
"In open and knuckle-dragging defiance of the actual principles that undergrid the nation." - Tell us how you really feel, Dan. 🙂 Bravo.
There's a reason my wife and I are planning to home school.
It's all good because nothing will make you an atheist faster than reading the Bible.
😂 I think there are more people who read the Bible that haven’t become atheists than have become atheists.
So true! I was an evangelical christian for 20 years, and only "read" the bible with major input from the pulpit. Once I started questioning the church and left to seek god and god alone, I actually began studying the bible and other resources that were taboo in the church.
About 8 years into a decade long deep dive into the bible, its mythology, origins, what it ripped off, etc. I realized I was an atheist. YAAAYYYYYYY!!!
@@cc3775That's because they read it in the context of religious indoctrination.
It's absurd, grotesque barbaric mythology.
@@cc3775*claim to have read the Bible.
@@kentstallard6512 “it’s absurd, grotesque barbaric mythology”
No it’s not
As someone with family currently enrolled in Oklahoma schools, Ryan Walters revolts me. This can’t go well
I am in Oklahoma resident however I homeschool my children. Well I do not know much about this man and he does not revolt me. This cannot be good
@goodnight787 Pardon? I did not understand what you were trying to say. Are you saying it cannot be good that this man, who you admit not knowing, does not revolt you?
You are homeschooling but cannot effectively communicate when writing. That is concerning.
@@Marco-xy7nd sorry I was in the wind talk to texting.
*I do not much about this man therefore I can't agree that "he revolts me". I can agree that this policy passed is not good and will not go well.
His scheme violates the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. It is therefore illegal.
Pure insanity
*fascism
It's not insane, they know exactly what they're doing and why.
The answer to the question, why do you care so much what christians think is exactly this right here
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So if two years from now, if there's no meaningful improvement in state academic results, will this superintendent submit to being locked in a pillory in a public square while onlookers throw hardcover Bibles at his head until he gets the gods-damned point?
So much for the First Amendment to the Constitution. Well done, Oklahoma. {rolleyes}
They will get rid of the first amendment. Actually, they want to get rid of the constitution.
I live in Oklahoma and this superintendent has been notorious for stuff like this. He's absolutely horrible. I am embarrassed for our state. I am, however, glad that this will almost certainly be subject to lawsuits and shut down in the courts.
Their aim is to repeat the repeal of Roe vs. Wade.
That's exactly what they want, attention and free publicity, along with the bitching rights to claim victimhood and persecution.
I already asked my state rep his opinion on this. He didn't even respond. He's a moron too
This is possibly the most dangerous period in the life of the USA.
The founding fathers had a unique opportunity to create a new nation from scratch. They grasped it with both hands and did something truly wonderful. How sad then to see what recent generations of, mainly republican, politicians have done with that legacy.
The separation of church and state was one of the things that allowed the US to become great, free from the influence of religion and its bedfellow monarchy, that had so befouled Europe, causing centuries of oppression, warfare and death. And now the Christian right and the Republican party want to throw all that away by going back to a time when the religious thinking of a minority oppressed the silent majority.
Once we indoctrinate children's minds with one specific version of religious thought and one that denies so much of what we have learned from science, we raise generations of people who will be unable to compete on the world stage and we will, without doubt, see the USA sink into a backwards theocracy, left behind as the rest of the world surges, ever faster, into a bright scientific and technological future.
If this behaviour is allowed to continue and grow, our children's children will look back on today and say that we oversaw the death of a once great nation.
It's the most perilous era internally since the 1850s.
They created a slave country. You think that's wonderful?
Your founding peeps were benevolent intellectuals who deserved their positions on merit and reputation. What we are seeing here is the result of western society feeding the "rise of mediocrity". We listen to movie stars and sports people instead of scientists and subject matter experts. Media represents spin and headlines for clicks. Everyone is right, and a "belief" is now as strong and given as much importance as evidential fact.
The basis of our legal system is English common law, not the Bible. Our main legal document, the U.S. Constitution, never mentions the bible anywhere. It does mention religion a few times, but only in the context of keeping religion out of government.
There aren't really mentions of keeping religion out of the government. It mentions keeping the government out of religion.
this country is headed for a theocracy if states continue this madness.
Are you aware of the 2025 Project?
@@wendyleeconnelly2939 yes, i am.
Theodictatorship.
Actually it is headed to be a Feudal System. Just check out who is a billionaire. They will be your lords, and lords use the church to control the Serfs.
We are already there, my friends.
If I were a headmaster at a school in Oklahoma I'd mount a Bible in a glass box on the wall of every classroom, and connect it to an alarm.
As for teaching from the Bible: teachers are fortunately very creative and will use the Bible to teach exactly the opposite of what is intended by this official.
A chance for an object lesson for the kids. "Notice how I have a copy of the bible in a box with a padlock? Here I am smashing the key so I can't open it. This it called a protest!"
Actually I was thinking that if you have a Bible in every classroom, you should also have the holy books of all the major religions (in translation if necessary).
@@wartgin every classroom loses a dozen square feet of floor space 🤣
Christian Taliban
Or just evangelicals
@@leom6343Same diff
@@leom6343Evangelists spread their word through preaching, Evangelists are not the problem. Literally anyone who uses scripture to espouse their views falls under Evangelism.
Christian Dominionists are the problem.
@@thomaswillard6267 Great point, well said.
Just because they claim to be born again does not make them " Christians "
"Knuckle-dragging?" I like it!
In other words, “THIS IS STUPID!”
This shit gon give me a stroke
I'm genuinely starting to fear for our country's future. And I don't like alarmist rhetoric, but this is getting depressingly scary.
It's going to get worse with implementation of Project 2025
I love the emoji editorializing.
It makes Walters bearable.
Yes, they should teach _everything_ about the Bible. Like how zombies rose from the dead when Jesus was crucified. Or how eating some animals like pigs is an affront to heaven. Or how Lot offered his daughters to the townsfolk. Or how Moses wanted to kill even babies for being in a different tribe. Or how slavery was because Noah got angry at his son for laughing at him while he was naked. And many more.
You know, _even the weird, terrible stuff_ that's in the Bible.
Exactly. It's full of grotesque barbarity.
Oh, lest we forget Onan, "spilling his seed onto the ground"... 😮😂😅
@@bradleyswinderman7442 ...and the bit about horses and donkeys.
I live in Oklahoma and my kids attend public schools here. My friends - which includes teachers- are livid. But we also know this is a petty, attention seeking stunt by him. The day before he announced this, the Oklahoma Supreme Court shot down his and his state board of education’s ill-advised approval of a Catholic charter school. Our Attorney General told them they could not do that, but they did- so the AG took them to court and slapped their hand.
He also tried to dictate what books a local school district couldn’t have in their libraries at the threat of their accreditation. Once again out AG smacked him down saying he had no authority over the district to choose library books.
How on Earth can a book finished almost 1600 years ago say anything the history of a country created approximately 1300 years layer?
I, for one, am glad that they are finally going to do something to address this epidemic of kids thinking that it's okay to boil a baby goat in its mother's milk, or to not celebrate the Feast of Unleavened Bread.
Pig farmers better start lobbying against it
And shellfish sellers(whatever they are called) and beard trimmer sellers and and and. They don’t even know what is in the book.
@lnsflare1 - let's make it a PaNdEmiC :
Jooz's Laws are oBsOLeTe - read [[anOnyMous]] Epistle to the Heebz, § 8:13
And forgetting to sleep outside overnight during the harvest feast and reaping to the corners of the fields instead of letting the poor glean. And let's not forget that we haven't celebrated the Jubilee where all debts are forgiven and property reverts to those who mortgaged it or rented it out.
@@wartgin
I think the Bible is a salad bar for some people. Take just the part that you find palatable and ignore the beets.
This is virtue signalling. One state puts the 10 Commandments in every classroom, so another says, "well we're putting the whole Bible in every classroom and requiring it to be taught." The next state will include prayer before each day and the next will introduce chapel services. They're all just trying to out-Christian the next guy running forvoffice.
Vice signaling. There is no virtue in using the power of the state to force a religion down anyone’s throat.
The goal here is a Christian theocracy, but a theocracy based on evangelical fundamentalist Christianity. Once they have power, they will make their denomination compulsory and classify other denominations as heretical. Ultimately it’s not really about Christianity. It’s about political power.
It's absolutely virtue signaling. Just like all the law codes in Leviticus and Deuteronomy that atheists love to cry about.
As usual, Dan brings receipts. Thank you for simply stating facts.👏🏻
John Adams in the Tripoli Treaty stated that the US had nothing to do politically with Christianity. Besides the Bible is an eastern document not western.
"The bible is an eastern document"
No, it isn't 😂
It is, if anything, a shining example of why this archaic notion of Orientalism (that's all the West-Divide has ever been) is entirely nonsensical given the Levant is squarely in the middle of Eurasia.
But if we are going to give into the absurdity, then the Bible is objectively a western document as it was written in Greek and spread most prolifically in Europe (aka Western Eurasia).
It is ONLY an 'Eastern Document' if you are standing at the Western Extreme.
@@thomaswillard6267Irrelevant.
It's a collection of grotesque and barbaric mythology.
@@thomaswillard6267the larger portion of the Bible, the Hebrew Bible, is mainly composed in Hebrew with some Aramaic. It is very much a product of Semitic culture, but the east/west divide is silly, I agree. Still, only the NT was composed in Greek
@@thomaswillard6267 Where the west start geographically??? Yes the Greco romans highjacked the story and made up a sur-mesure religion that fit their need.
The Middle EAST ends at the border between Egypt and Libya
Before i listen. Should be left at home where parents, who actually think this through, would really want it. So many questions arise...Will teachers have to sign a doctrinal belief, what values, principles, beliefs will be acceptable to teach?
Every teacher in every classroom? So in 10th grade math they are going to teach.. what exactly? What’s in the Bible to learn? The genealogy of the tribes of Judah? David having his general shipped to the front lines because he knocked up his wife? What are we even doing here??
the two contradicting genealogies of Jesus
@@leom6343um no there’s not
@@cc3775the 2 contradictory creation accounts in Genesis?
@@cc3775yes there is, Dan has even talked about it on this channel
They could teach all the numerical inaccuracies in the bible.
Gilgamesh should be mandatory reading, I've read ~ a dozen different translations. It is kind of like Gobekli Tepe, it was built before The Bible's Creation.
No, neither should be mandatory reading
@@getasimbethe anti-intellectualism of "No MaNdAtOrY rEaDiNg" doesn't help anyone.
"Just say no" has never been a valid argument
@@thomaswillard6267 I'm not sure why an argument would be needed here. The current standard is not having the Bible or Epic of Gilgamesh as mandatory reading in every classroom. One would need to put forth an argument to change that. The one presented by this government official was pure and utter nonsense. So a simple answer of no suffices
@@getasimbeAn argument is needed because you're responding to an argument. Not sure if you noticed but you weren't responding to the government official, you were responding to someone making an argument. Their argument being that as the oldest story recorded, as the common Heritage of all mankind, that the Epic of Gilgamesh should be mandatory reading for people,
To just say "No, neither should be mandatory" is a shallow non-argument dismissive of what the other person was trying to say. Which just struck me as anti-intellectual and at the very least if not insulting, disrespectful to what they were trying to say
If you feel that the original comment is all that's warranted, then feel free to stop replying. But the fact that you're acting as if you were replying to the argument made by the government's official, definitely reeks of anti-intellectualism, as in you simply did not think before you acted
I had to read Gilgamesh at some point. Can't recall if it was high school or middle school. But it was definitely mandatory reading in some school districts at one point in time.
I am looking forward to the brave teachers who will inevitably use this as an opportunity to teach their students the facts that antebellum slave laws were directly based on the slave laws in the Torah
The Bible has done a wonderful job at promoting the White man as god.(Romans 3:7)
This is a blatant disregard for the First Amendment . Isn't it?
You know what else improves education outcomes? Not being hungry or worse, starving.
For real! Bundled with other socioeconomic challenges, it does so probably more than almost any other issue.
Just as it is with alcohol, there should be a law establishing an age restriction to teaching any religion to children, say 14 or 16. They must first be taught critical thinking skills and pass a proficiency test before reaching this restriction age. Learning a religion should not be mandatory.
How do you proposed to get such a law passed?
@@KateGladstone I don't. Humanity hasn't progressed enough. Maybe in another century or two, if we don't end our planets ability to support living organisms.
It's so dumb. If he was really being genuine about it being a historical document, he'd decree that "We should teach the influence of the Bible in HISTORY CLASS", but that's not what he said--he said every classroom. What does having the Bible in a PE class have to do with teaching history?
When the Biblebis on display in math class, will the law allow - or forbid - opening it to the chapter and verse which teach that pi = 3? (That’s I Kings 7:23, if you want to read it and ch3ck for yourself.)
You are one of my favorite scholars, and your professionalism is exceptional.
Teaching the Bible & the 10 Commandments, absolutely not! The Golden Rule, which is a component of every religion on the planet: Love one another, and love each other as yourself, DEFINITELY YES!
Unfortunately that appears to be counter to the modern Republican party. Sad that a once great party has fallen so far.
Either the whole bible including the bad commandments or nothing. If it will be the first, we will have many more atheists
@@JopJio Great! Must we teach the Bible in classrooms? Fine. Let's start with Deuteronomy.
Maybe skip the supernatural window dressing, and just do a unit on Kantian ethics. Enlightenment philosophy is going to be much more relevant to the founding fathers, anyway.
I'm 100% for it. As long as they also teach the Satanic Bible, the Quran, and every other religion that is in existence.
Everyone should undertake an honest study of the Bible. Everyone I know that has done so has become anti-religious.
As someone who was groomed and indoctrinated from early childhood by the church using the bible; and a bible college student. Unfortunately, it will be a bias teaching of the bible and not an honest teaching. Even when the bible has been taught in public schools as an elective course. It is a bias teaching, not honest.
In context. Study the Bible in the appropriate context do they understand it's literature. Not inerrant.
@@duncansonoryan I taught bible in public schools as an elective course. It's usually taught by bible college graduates and taught as inerrant. The same way it is taught in conservative churches.
It's good to know why da Jooz gots no excuse -
` ` It is ~worse~ to contradict a Scribe (*) than to contradict the Bible"
(-the Orthodox Jews' Talmud, Folio 11, ParaGraph 88).
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★ == an Expert in Moses's Laws and in the Traditions of the Religious Government of Roman Palestine, or of exiled Jews, > A D. 70.
@@jameschapman6559 Did you teach it in Greek/Hebrew/Aramaic?
Ok, along with all the great world religions text … it’s called ‘ World Religions’. One of my favorite courses in college…
I believe in God. I love to read the Bible. Politicians like this...are idiotic.
Do you also like the violent commandments?😂
@@JopJio Nope. I don't. But then, I don't think the Bible is inerrant. So...
@@talkofchrist "no inerrancy" never meant that whole commandments are false or were not given by God and was not believed by Jesus or Paul or the 12 apostles. It only meant that small mistakes are okay. So you dont "love" the Bible. You love to cherry pick what fits to you and what not🤣 by the way, Jesus in the Nt confirmed the whole Tanakh/OT he knew. So does Paul. So you arent even a believer to them.
@@leom6343 I'm afraid I don't understand most of your statement. Your first sentence has six negatives and four conjunctions in it. Then you claim to know my own emotions better than I do. Finally, you somehow know what Paul and Jesus think about me, personally. So... I'm not sure how to respond.
@@talkofchrist you just admitted that you dont love the bible but only the passages you like. And i know that the Jesus of the Nt confirmed the whole torah, word for word. Paul confirmed the whole Torah too. You go against both of them and Jesus of the Nt went off against the Pharisees for less. The apostles went off against Paul for less.
The Mahabharata purports to be history. I look forward to it sitting next to the bible in every Oklahoma classroom. They’re going to need to build some big-ass shelves though.
They should teach the Satanic bible as well so that students know how to combat christian indoctrination and grooming specifically.
This is also a political stunt as he is setting himself up to run for Governor. He has attacked Tulsa Public Schools for the same reason - politics. Believe it or not this is a guy who used to teach AP History is high school. According to his former students he never made such outrageous claims as a teacher. It's political theater.
100%; right wing authoritarian signposting, as Dan might say.
Identity markers, check.
Potential Supreme Court test case, check.
National office springboard, check.
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Maga finally convinced me my faith was a fool's errand. Their ability to believe in anything without evidence was the final slap of reality.
I know. I thought Santa was real, and legit waited outside one Christmas Eve looking at the sky. I was 14 years old.
@@apachewraith I literally laughed out loud thank you,✌️
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@@apachewraith I gave my two daughters a very real fear of horror movies and I know this is horrible for me as a dad but I'll let them watch the tooth fairy with me They always tried to stay in the light lol
My mom has a house next door so they would try to get from one house to the other safely under the light...
The thing is they totally love horror movies now and that's because I did my little evil deed lol
Thank you Dan!
It's hard for me to believe something like this could happen, and that announcement, good lord probably every Christian there is applauding with great zest and vigor.
I don't think so. Or I hope not. It's generally the ones that see money or power or both.
Oklahoma must have money to burn. They are going to lose the expensive legal battles ahead. The attorneys, however, will prosper.
They're counting on the stacked Supreme Court to vindicate them. This is strategic as they know it will be legally challenged.
As they already do.
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I guess there will be math teachers in OK now teaching the unit of cubit as a fundamental measure of length. No more "woke" meters! ;-)
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Good one.
I am from Oklahoma and recently went there for my mom’s memorial service. I took an Uber from Will Rogers IA to my aunt’s in Norman. My driver is a teacher. I am a former teacher now principal in Colorado. He asked me if I know who Ryan Walters is. I didn’t at that time. Teachers can’t stand him and now I know why.
A high school teacher of mine in the 90s (in Canada) proposed a world religions themed history class, which was optional. He described it as examining the impact various world religions had. However once he actually got around to submitting his curriculum it was obvious he just wanted state funding to run a baptist sermon class and planned to spend a single day on all other world religions. So his class proposal was quickly shot down.
Which translation should they use? Or does he mean that the children should be taught the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek?
I can’t find any data supporting that Alexander Hamilton directly quoted your catchphrase “nah, I’m good”! 😜
Insightful video nonetheless!
He said Franklin wanted to start with prayer and another individual said to paraphrase ‘I’m good’
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I was born and raised in Oklahoma’s religious culture. This announcement is truly embarrassing! Thank you Dan. Your response is perfect.
Dan always breaks it down, perfectly stated.
So in Oklahoma, bats are now birds.
I just keeps getting worse freedom is under attack
This is the best video you have ever produced. Thank you.
I half expected him to say 'we want a copy of the slaver's bible in every classroom'.
How about all the other 18,000 plus religions. Are they going to have their "commandments" wallpapered up in each classroom as well and teach from their holy books? It's seems over fair. This is just another ploy from politicians to divide the country and give them more power and control.
thank you for addressing this!
Thank you for your video. You are absolutely right Sir.
I love that opening: "Uh... Don't do that." :)
This is a perfect opportunity for someone with a lot of expertise in critical study of the Bible to come up with a curriculum that teachers can use to shatter the concept of biblical inerrancy and univocality in schoolchildren before their church has had a chance to indoctrinate them.
Maybe next time fundamentalists want to shove a book down children’s throats they’ll read it first.
Good point...assuming someone will have the courage to do that.
Yes, teach the Bible for what it really is: grotesque and barbaric mythology with a few "nice" passages.
Sometimes, I feel luck that I'm now 51 YO and dont have to dwell much longer on this place. The nonexistence sounds tempting.
Thanks for talking about this, Dan
Simple answer. Yes, it should.
Why?
these people are scary
How long before they change the name of the State to Gilead?
They're lying on purpose. They're doing this as a defense when this non sense goes to the Supreme Court.
Thank you, Dan. This is the best response to the theocratic misinformation I have encountered. I hope it goes viral.
As someone who went to Catholic school, I'm going to admit that we didn't really read the Bible in class, but rather learned aspects of our religion. The only time I really studied the Bible was in college as part of a theology class. So yeah. This ain't gonna be a sustainable thing.
The Catholic Church has historically suppressed access to the Bible.
I went to Catholic schools and my junior year in high school we *did* read the entire Bible precisely because my teacher wanted to counter the argument that Catholics do not read the Bible. However, I would say that even outside of that, we got just as much exposure going to Mass. Most Protestants don’t really read the Bible, either. They read (or have read to them by preachers) selected passages and ignore the rest. Not so different than Catholics.
@@OldMotherLogo I honestly don’t understand this. I’m no longer Christian, but as a teen I read the Bible on my own… because why wouldn’t you? (Admittedly there was some skimming-but I was a terrible student generally, and I put more effort into the Bible than any subject I was actually being graded on.)
If you believe you have literally the MOST IMPORTANT BOOK IN THE WORLD, one that supposedly contains deep wisdom, moral instruction, the secrets of the universe, and the keys to _eternal life,_ why wouldn’t you read it? Even if you were concerned that you couldn’t understand it without guidance, why wouldn’t you seek out that guidance?
@@nw42 Bart Ehrman tells a story about at the beginning of his class - and he teaches Bible history in North Carolina - he will ask the students how many have read The DaVinci Code and almost every hand in the class will go up. And then maybe he will ask how many have read any of the Harry Potter books and, again, a majority of the hands go up. Then he asks how many have read the entire Bible. MAYBE one hand will go up. And he says, if you think you love God and want to obey him, and God wrote a book, don’t you think you would want to see what he had to say?
Yeah, it’s funny that as much as people want to say they are guided by it, most of them haven’t really read it.
@@OldMotherLogo Similar, though even more inexcusable, are “constitutionalists” who’ve never read the U.S. Constitution. “‘Slavery is never mentioned in the Constitution’? Ah, so I see you never made it through Article 1.”
It really is all about identity markers…
Hahaha. No.
My home state is an embarrassment, especially this zealot Sec. of Education.
I'm sure he didn't read the Bible.
Along with the Utah law makers who felicitate the banning of books and then see the Bible being banned by their standards.
Let malicious compliance abound
The Handmaids Tale……..is happening in real life. Here in Australia this is unimaginable.
Yeah, but it shouldn't be. Murdoch/Putin used racism to make this mess in America. They can repeat the process.
It's unconstitutional and a bad idea. Teach empathy if you want to improve behavior.
Just a minor nerd note
Hogwash like the Okie is spewing has been around long before Social Media ( Find an old Reader's Digest 😏)
But Social Media allows them to link arms to throw their weight around
The hogwash mythology has been around for 2600 years.
the state of Louisiana made it mandatory for all public schools to post the 10 commandments in every classroom a couple weeks ago
2nd Chronicles 7:14-“If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”
Unfortunately, I don't think Superintendent Walters is interested in humbling himself or turning from his wicked ways.
Either the whole bible including the bad commandments and the scholarly opinions or nothing. If it will be the first, we will have many more atheists. Cherry picking he can do at home.
I'd be absolutely for a comparative religion class. Nothing wrong with understanding, but don't indoctrinate!
@@MichaelDeHaven that's not what he wants. He wants to indocrinate children and to cherry pick the "good" parts.
Amen. My deconversion experience started with a Bible Survey elective class in a TX public school.
@@MichaelDeHaven unfortunately that's for sure not what they want. They want to cherry pick what they like and what fit their agenda
All Christians cherry pick the Bible and rationalize the copious ugly parts.
That's become necessary since the rise of humanism.
Which bible?
Im so sad to see an historically good, smart and prosperous country falling this way.
Thank you.
I recommend reading the Bible. It's a great argument for being atheist.
Yeap, I think the same
I was actually on board with his very first statement. Even Richard Dawkins writes that people should know what's in the Bible because of the enormous cultural importance of these texts and the countelss references to them in our culture and literature.
The Bible is indeed historically relevant to Western Civilization (sadly).
But of course these MAGA cultists would never advocate teaching it from an academic standpoint.
Agreed.
I don't see his main point about the significance of the Bible in shaping society and our need to understand it to be that bad of an argument. The conclusion is what doesn't follow from the facts. We don't need Christianity or it's relics to be pushed in every classroom in order to learn about it.
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I wish there was religion taught in schools. Not a religion, but several. The de facto Christianity of most people wouldn’t survive exposure to other’s beliefs, and at the very least would promote tolerance.
I wish religion were taught for what it is: mythology based nonsense.
If they are going to teach religion in school, then they should also teach the arguments *against* religion in school, give it equal time. Include The God Delusion and Demon Haunted World in the curriculum.
I love the Bible. I am a Christian; I read the Bible and worship with it every day. To answer the question of the title: HECK NO! Of COURSE NOT! I would never want my children learning about the beautiful and wonderful Bible as controlled by American Evangelicals' false religion.
Beautiful and wonderful?
The God of the Bible condones genocide, chattel slavery, misogyny, infanticide, etc.
It's awful. Jesus as depicted in the NT is a ruthless authoritarian (all non-believers suffer "eternal punishment"--Matt. 25:46).
There are thousands of Christian denominations but YOU get to decide which are "false"?
MAGA evangelicals aren't a perversion of Christianity. They're just Old School.
Saying he is ignorant is giving him to much credit. He knows this is all misinformation and he is doing it on purpose to further his agenda.
Oh, Lord. I don't even know where to start with this. Ryan Walters is.... multiple expletives deleted.
Tax. All. Churches.
“Founding Myth” by Andrew Seidel is also a great book
John Adams said, “Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Morality and virtue are the foundation of our republic and necessary for a society to be free. I wonder whose morals and what religion he was referring to? Also I live in Alabama and there’s already kids in the public school here transitioning, identifying as “gay”, and some even think there farm animals. Elementary students at that. I can’t imagine what a public school is like in more liberal states. Teaching the kids the 10 commandments can’t make the public school system any worse I can promise you that.
Well, for every "good" moral in the Bible, there is also a bad one. After all, you can beat your slave as long as he doesn't die. Guessing that will fit in well down in ole Bama. And this video is actually about the Bible and not the commandments. The commandments say you must worship the Christian God above everything else. Are you going to force children to believe in a God that their parents don't believe in? Doesn't sound very "free" to me.
@@markb3786 well if your not a Christian I’d like to know how you know anything to be good or bad? How can evolved pond scum do good or bad things? Richard Dawkins in his book garden out of Eden said there is no good no bad just blind pitiless indifference. Seems like that would be the consistent professed atheist position. And I can’t force anyone to believe anything. But a good start is to teach it as something one ought to believe. And I’ve always been kind of confused by the “free” thing. There’s all kinds of things we can’t do in this “free” society. Try to not pay your taxes and see how free you are. Live in a liberal state in a liberal city and work for a liberal company and say you don’t want an experimental fauci ouchie injected in your arm and see how free you are. Or go to California and say men can’t get pregnant and men shouldn’t play on women’s sports teams and see how free you are. lol
Thank you. ❤