The issue with Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts is quite simple. It is a direct competitor to Rule the Waves (1, 2, and 3), and Rule the Waves always cost ALOT. AAA game prices for what amounts to a spreadsheet naval sim. I personally am fine with that, and adore Rule the Waves. It only costs that much because of just how absurdly niche the game is (even compared to Sprocket and Flyout), and the fact that it isn't a single guy, it is a small studio behind it, which had amazing customer service, and handled each sale's DRM on an individual case by case basis. They were basically games developed and released by a much older generation who just love naval history, so much so that the main guy who owned everything and did most of the dev work died unfortunately before Rule the Waves 3 released. Now, the problem this causes is that Sprocket and Flyout are NOT seen as competitors to Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts, as it is in truth basically just a 3d version of Rule the Waves. Quite literally almost a carbon copy just given a proper GUI and 3d rendering. Further, UAD isn't developed by an independent team like RTW, the parent company is the one dictating price, and looks at RTW and goes "We will just match their price", not understanding that it is a combination of outside factors which made it acceptable for RTW to be priced that way. Hell, said parent company are also responsible for MP not being an update, but a DLC, and are also responsible for the "release" of the game. The devs were notably pissed off by this, but the parent company decided the game wasn't bringing in enough money and wants the dev team to move onto new projects. Despite the fact that the devs don't think the game is nearly done.
My main problem with UAD (which I still play and love) is that most of the community pretty much agrees that the game HAS to be modded to address the huge balance flaws with the campaign and shipbuilding yet the devs just go hue hue hoo and add more hulls or (to your point) release a paid dlc that most people don’t even want instead of spending what might take a month to recalibrate the game. Shit you could just ask a CC who has a mod and I’m sure they would say yes to let the devs use their already made balance mods.
Brings back memories of playing the F.222.2 in war thunder with a few friends and completely annihilating the enemy airfield from low earth orbit 5 mins into the match
The trifecta games for making fictional or non fictional vehicles are(for me at least): - Flyout for planes - sprocket for tanks - Navalart for ships(and a lil bit of subs)
And there are 3 games to make good rockets. -kerbal space program (sequel? KSP never had a sequel…) -Spaceflight simulator(fun, 2d rocket builder) -Juno=new origins(like KSP, but with the style of SFS)
I was also shocked when i saw that UAD announced multiplayer DLC. Its totally not ready, i havent played it in a long time because i feel like itsa buggy mess that they tried to jam too many mechanics into. I liked it a lot more a few major updates ago
Thats the best time for aircraft builders. Anything goes, thats why in Flyout i try to stay in 1910-1960s all beyond that lack of childish imagination.
You can still have some childish imagination with modern planes, stuff like forward swept wings, moving wings and wacky fly by wire trickery. But you cant make a bus with wings and send it skywards like back in ye olden days
Have you thought about making a flying boat for chisford? I think it would make sense given their large coastline and with flying boats being very popular in the interwar period irl.
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I know how you feel bits, honestly think if you paid prior, you should have a key since we supported a game through its development, this feels like a stab in the back to be real.
I think that the devs of these games should work together ngl, would be cool to see a game like Sprocket or Flyout, but you can make ground, air, AND naval.
Don't forget the lads at Naval Art, now that would be one hell of a game! Imagine mp matches with home made vehicles across all three theatres. I will be dreaming about this for weeks
Im late, so idk if youll see this will. From the Depths is a naval based building game with terrestrial and aeronautical additions. Its not as in depth as sprocket/flyout but i think it'd be a good option for a naval based builder.
I very much related to you on your UAD point. I also supported the game very early on and bought early access, that was a lot of money that I really don't feel was worth it at this point. It's buggy, unfinished, unbalanced, and the publishers are awefuly greedy. I fully support your decision to not make videos on it, neither would I.
Wouldn't be my first choice of Color Scheme, but aside from that I think it's cool. :) Honestly there's times when I wonder why Propeller Planes didn't do Propeller Engines with Propellers on both the front and back more often. Then again I have no RL Aeronautics Force Powers, so i'm sure there's reasons and they'd probably fly right over my head. :P * Ducks Rotten Produce... *
Since Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts seems to just be a cash grab, NavalArt might be a bit better. I haven't played it but it seems to be somewhat similar to Flyout and Sprocket but is instead a nautical version
Is it Admiral Dreadnoughts? (Never heard of it) i think the game sounds like it's made like 90% of the AAA developers games, overpriced, underdone, and me having both sprocket and flyout, i love both too much to get another game lol
@@JMPTRACKS Naval art is for if you want to design ships from scratch, UAD is for if you want to design ships with mostly period accurate hulls, guns, superstructures and etc and then use them to actually fight wars. They're trying to capture two different audiences.
play the game man. Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts has a full map and campaign, while I think it's a bit overpriced it's far more of a -game- then either sprocket or flyout which are just builders, or with sprocket a few simulated battles and a builder. you are comparing apples to oranges patch
I love the somewhat charming design of the F.222.2 glad to see it getting any attention.
War thunder 1.3 ground RB flashbacks
The issue with Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts is quite simple. It is a direct competitor to Rule the Waves (1, 2, and 3), and Rule the Waves always cost ALOT. AAA game prices for what amounts to a spreadsheet naval sim. I personally am fine with that, and adore Rule the Waves. It only costs that much because of just how absurdly niche the game is (even compared to Sprocket and Flyout), and the fact that it isn't a single guy, it is a small studio behind it, which had amazing customer service, and handled each sale's DRM on an individual case by case basis. They were basically games developed and released by a much older generation who just love naval history, so much so that the main guy who owned everything and did most of the dev work died unfortunately before Rule the Waves 3 released.
Now, the problem this causes is that Sprocket and Flyout are NOT seen as competitors to Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts, as it is in truth basically just a 3d version of Rule the Waves. Quite literally almost a carbon copy just given a proper GUI and 3d rendering. Further, UAD isn't developed by an independent team like RTW, the parent company is the one dictating price, and looks at RTW and goes "We will just match their price", not understanding that it is a combination of outside factors which made it acceptable for RTW to be priced that way.
Hell, said parent company are also responsible for MP not being an update, but a DLC, and are also responsible for the "release" of the game. The devs were notably pissed off by this, but the parent company decided the game wasn't bringing in enough money and wants the dev team to move onto new projects. Despite the fact that the devs don't think the game is nearly done.
I do apologise for the misuse of "Devs" - But I still stand by my point, even if directed at the publishers instead.
Yeah
For closer to sprocket or flyout style boat building you'd want to get naval art
Alas... Executive Meddling strikes again... :(
Don't act like the Devs behind UAD have 0 involvement in the mess that the game is rn.
My main problem with UAD (which I still play and love) is that most of the community pretty much agrees that the game HAS to be modded to address the huge balance flaws with the campaign and shipbuilding yet the devs just go hue hue hoo and add more hulls or (to your point) release a paid dlc that most people don’t even want instead of spending what might take a month to recalibrate the game. Shit you could just ask a CC who has a mod and I’m sure they would say yes to let the devs use their already made balance mods.
normal designers:
"how cursed is your bomber?"
the French:
"Yes"
Brings back memories of playing the F.222.2 in war thunder with a few friends and completely annihilating the enemy airfield from low earth orbit 5 mins into the match
The trifecta games for making fictional or non fictional vehicles are(for me at least):
- Flyout for planes
- sprocket for tanks
- Navalart for ships(and a lil bit of subs)
And there are 3 games to make good rockets.
-kerbal space program (sequel? KSP never had a sequel…)
-Spaceflight simulator(fun, 2d rocket builder)
-Juno=new origins(like KSP, but with the style of SFS)
I was also shocked when i saw that UAD announced multiplayer DLC. Its totally not ready, i havent played it in a long time because i feel like itsa buggy mess that they tried to jam too many mechanics into. I liked it a lot more a few major updates ago
That looks like that one french plane thats in war thunder
How do I know Which one you mean 😂
@@oliverwebster-in9dt the funny bomber thing thats the same colour as this and carries like 5000000 bombs
@@oliverwebster-in9dt the f.222.22.22.2..22 or whatever it's called
the F222.2?
When he references the Farman, he is referring to that very bomber the Farman 222 or better know in war thunder the f.222. So you are very correct
Why was there a Possum at 8:19?
I recomend naval art for naval ships, has a multiplayer and the editor is pretty good but can be a pain sometimes
Hey look! Its the French F.2.222 or whatever its nomenclature is! And im putting this PRIOR to watching
Thats the best time for aircraft builders. Anything goes, thats why in Flyout i try to stay in 1910-1960s all beyond that lack of childish imagination.
You can still have some childish imagination with modern planes, stuff like forward swept wings, moving wings and wacky fly by wire trickery. But you cant make a bus with wings and send it skywards like back in ye olden days
This whole series of making planes for a whole ass fictional country is so autistic I love it lol
The funny man makes a french F.222.2 look good!
Oh hello ash
Have you thought about making a flying boat for chisford? I think it would make sense given their large coastline and with flying boats being very popular in the interwar period irl.
When did UAD get so expensive? There's no way in hell I paid $35 for it.
Otter builds a not so french bomber
I love the Kerbal space program VAB music that you put in the background 🤣🤣
For your fictional countries would you like somebody to design Small Arms because I can give it a shot, back to this video this bomber looks awesome
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F 222.2 was the most powerful aircraft in the world but it was heavily nurfed by being French
I know how you feel bits, honestly think if you paid prior, you should have a key since we supported a game through its development, this feels like a stab in the back to be real.
Funny you mentioned UA:D, been watching your videos while playing this week :)
I am loving this series
I think that the devs of these games should work together ngl, would be cool to see a game like Sprocket or Flyout, but you can make ground, air, AND naval.
Don't forget the lads at Naval Art, now that would be one hell of a game! Imagine mp matches with home made vehicles across all three theatres. I will be dreaming about this for weeks
Im late, so idk if youll see this will.
From the Depths is a naval based building game with terrestrial and aeronautical additions. Its not as in depth as sprocket/flyout but i think it'd be a good option for a naval based builder.
I very much related to you on your UAD point. I also supported the game very early on and bought early access, that was a lot of money that I really don't feel was worth it at this point. It's buggy, unfinished, unbalanced, and the publishers are awefuly greedy. I fully support your decision to not make videos on it, neither would I.
this is the best brick i have ever seen! congrats!
love these flyout vids for your fictional world
French Baguette Bomber.
The appearance also kinda resembles the Amiot 143.
Is this a Farman F222 bomber from WW2 ?
It really looks like the f 222.2
Bro why do you have KSP music in the background
Patchbits have you considered getting navalart? You could add to your world’s navies that way
Loving the new vids
Wouldn't be my first choice of Color Scheme, but aside from that I think it's cool. :)
Honestly there's times when I wonder why Propeller Planes didn't do Propeller Engines with Propellers on both the front and back more often. Then again I have no RL Aeronautics Force Powers, so i'm sure there's reasons and they'd probably fly right over my head. :P * Ducks Rotten Produce... *
Ahh yes, F.222.2
Welcome back, my beloved.
Like an F.222.2 fell into British hands
you should make a spg tank next
Can you please make Iran's fake stealth fighter jet... 🙏🙏🙏
yeah, definite f.222.2 vibes
KSP music?
It looks like a doggo!
Truly amazing!
Reminds me of ju-52
9:29 f2222222222
hey so i found a game called flyout, you should try it out!
Will i don't want to alarm you but the French have taken the air design bureau and made our bombers French i'm sorry for the bad news
Don't even own UA:D and was and that they made multiplayer a DLC
Since Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts seems to just be a cash grab, NavalArt might be a bit better. I haven't played it but it seems to be somewhat similar to Flyout and Sprocket but is instead a nautical version
Hmmm that looks familiar
yeah the UA:D devs have an incredible NERVE
its too smooth
You just made F.222.2
no to UA:D but what about navel art? i get that theirs still a controversy with it but its is more flyout and sprocket like
4:08 What do you mean France didn't exist?
new video!
CHISFORD ZA GOAT ❤❤
now that's just absurd and wasteful. you have to use BLIMPS if you wanna grow food in the sky... geez
If its french im gonna die
flyimng plamnt
Is it Admiral Dreadnoughts? (Never heard of it) i think the game sounds like it's made like 90% of the AAA developers games, overpriced, underdone, and me having both sprocket and flyout, i love both too much to get another game lol
(Also i usually don't ask but can you pin my comment so i can get multiple people's opinions about Admiral Dreadnoughts?)
Extensive comment on this on top of the comment section
I’d choose navalart over dreadnoughts fs. It’s pretty much the fly out of naval games
@@JMPTRACKS Naval art is for if you want to design ships from scratch, UAD is for if you want to design ships with mostly period accurate hulls, guns, superstructures and etc and then use them to actually fight wars. They're trying to capture two different audiences.
play the game man. Ultimate Admiral Dreadnoughts has a full map and campaign, while I think it's a bit overpriced it's far more of a -game- then either sprocket or flyout which are just builders, or with sprocket a few simulated battles and a builder. you are comparing apples to oranges patch
France didn’t exist💀💀