Responsible would have been using a boat with an electric engine powered by solar panels. Now they have to clean up the pollution left by their diesel engines. I'm sure they will do that, right?
Dumping sewage that’s not properly treated into a river is kind of disgusting… and the drinking water probably comes from the same river or some city downstream
In heavy rains the street runoff is mixed with the household waste due to the design of the system. This idea was fine before the invention of plastic, everything biological will eventually rot so sewage is not that bad, but the plastic and such will never rot back into soil.
Not only St Lawrence seaway. Back in the 1970"s studies were done to clean up Lachine Canal which runs through Montreal, PCB's from years of past commercial dumping line the bottom. Clean up was deemed too expensive when the government did studies. Nothing was done. Now, 2022, all sorts of condo projects line the canal, and people enjoy boating, kayaking...bike path follow down the canal. Guess everyone has forgotten the hidden danger lurking in the water and sediment. what you don't know, won't hurt you...
And people screamed at Victoria for along time and finally the discharge into the sea was cleaned up. Why does Montreal still have this problem? Where is the action? I guess Victoria will have to send the mascot 💩. 😀
Montreal has a state of the art treatment system since 2015. They also have the largest waste treatment facility in North America. Note that size does not matter and Montreal was always late to adapt to new technology. But since 2015 we are using state of the art ionizer. Still not enough but much better than it was before and much better then what Toronto is doing. In the case of both city the problem mainly comes from having a singular system for rain and waste water. So when it rains a lot we need to dump sewage.
This is happening all over Canada. Municipalities do not invest enough money into essential infrastructure. Building a state of the art sewage treatment plant gets less votes than building sports stadiums, for example. Municipalities would have to be legislated to build and upkeep their infrastructure, and they will not willingly spend the money .
Victoria BC - a much smaller City (383 K) which discharged into Juan de Fuca Strait (near it's outlet to the Pacific OCEAN) was hammered by the Federal Government, and forced to install a hugely expensive sewage treatment plant. But the Francophones - well, Montreal with a population of 1.7 million (4.5 times as large as Victoria) is allowed to discharge raw sewage into a RIVER. Double standard, much?
@@jasondrummond9451 this is a problem all over Quebec, they like to blame Ontario and others, but Quebec has failed for decades to address their water quality at all cities.
@@jasondrummond9451 few fellow citizens remember sometime after 2015 the Quebec government lobbied Ottawa to allow them to continue to discharge sewage water into the Ste. Lawrence River. Unfortunately they were successful. Also I must add Halifax & Dartmouth were equally as guilty as Victoria city discharge of untreated sewage into the salt water Halifax harbour. In the middle 1980s local government there received substantial federal funds to initially correct this water issue. However crooked premier and mayor decided they wanted fancy cobblestone streets and street lamps instead on a few selected waterfront roads in the high tourist areas.
I’ve been living most of my life in a small town downstream to montreal. Still a decent 50 miles or so downstream, but once in a while, our town would warn us to not drink water for the following days and only use bottled water or boil the water before drinking it. Theses warning were sometimes following some unusually severe waste discharge from montreal.
Endangering the Lands n humans when all drinking wayer comes from lakes rivers 😢 theres solutions to properly dump All kinds of Waste to keep Pollution from happening bless u all brothers n sisters everyone matters every life even animals on land n water
I try not to watch content produced by CBC, Canada's Liberal megaphone but I live on the St. Lawrence River so I made an exception this one time. Public money should not be given to any broadcaster that makes revenue from commercials period!
Ecollie is not the worst part of sewage, the chemicals are the worst! Chemicals do not disappear just because you cannot see them! Then all cities also put thousands of tons of salts on winter roads, these chemicals do not disappear either. If you do not understand chemistry, then you should learn. It is fantastic science!
This has been known for many years.....the federal government turned a blind a blind eye to it 20 years ago while at the same time investigating and charging Dawson City Yukon for their transgressions re: the Yukon River.....I guess a town of 1,600 people was easier to pick on
I'm disappointed the video didn't even mention what solutions there are. I mean, how can we solve it? What technologies exist to help clean the water? How much do they each cost? Also, how long would they take to build?
A Rive Boisee here the underground pipes are mixed up. No one is forced to dig them up and fix them for 50 years. "Pollution de l'eau Parc Rive-Boisé". IT costs a lot of money.
Montreal since inception has dumped raw sewage into the water. You see headlines in the newspaper in 2015 and 2018 still dumping raw sewage into the St. Lawrence. It is a culture thing from time immemorial when the village down stream come out to bath and wash their clothes, the village upstream as one body would discharge fecal matter into the river.
This is happening all over Canada, in Victoria Harbour on Vancouver Island raw sewage dumps in there all the time. In most of the Harbour’s in Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and PEI. It’s been going on for decades. It shouldn’t be allowed to happen
It happens in small municipalities, yes. But cities like Halifax and St. John's have long since stopped. It's appalling that Montreal is still doing this.
The river can't sue anyone, who is going to stop the polluters? "Quebec has agreements to let dozens of companies pollute above legal levels" CBC News · Posted: Aug 17, 2022
it is really interesting how different wastewater treatment is in Canada, province by province and town to town. 20 years ago, I went to a conference on water quality in the Gulf of Maine and on the way to Dartmouth, we passed tertiary (very high level removal of solids, bacteria and nutrients) level wastewater treatment plants, but when we got to Halifax found they were essentially dumping raw sewage, the treatment plant upgrades were delayed etc. I was pretty shocked. The US is no bastion of clean water for sure, but most of our plants have to treat to secondary standards, and disinfect the wastewater before discharging. A result of 10,000 CFU (we call that "too numerous to count") would be a big violation. Preventing the "designated used of recreation in and on the water" is a big issue. Investing in wastewater infrastructure is hard and expensive, we are dealing with 100s of millions in wastewater investment needs in Maine alone, so I totally get it. But c'mon Canada, you can do better.
Thank you! (charming, I thought Mayor Plante was cleaning that up? Valois Bay had a very bad reputation when I was a teen in Pte Claire. 1960's? One didn't want to dump a sailboat whilst out there.)
Water regulations are controlled by the province The St Lawrence is. Federal water. The municipalities have to follow the water regulations How do they get approval to dump into the. St Lawrence ?..
2 things your completely nescient self seems unaware of: 1) Dumping raw sewage is a municipal & provincial responsibility, in this case Montreal city Council, & the Parti Québécois who holds power in the province. It does not come under federal jurisdiction. 2) Your comparison of this issue with the carbon tax is a complete Straw Man non sequitur. Look it up if you can, you may gain some understanding that in order to be a successful troll you need a brain that holds factual information.
The federal government should suit the city of Montréal for damaging a river that belongs to all of canada. Or at least fine the city until it's cheaper to treat their sewage rather than to pay the fines.
As far as I can tell this is a temporary dump and not ongoing. "Although the clearing of sewer lines in this manner has not been acceptable since the 1980’s, the city of Montreal has still obtained permission from the Environment Ministry to clear the sewer in order to continue the demolition of the Bonaventure Expressway." - Antarctica Journal Oct. 21, 2022 It's still an awful thing but it would be nice if CBC could give us the proper context instead of the clickbait title.
I seen a documentary on this. They never up graded their sewage system to handle any growth I think there is work going on to build a proper sewage treatment plant but for years in the past and present it is direct drive into the river
@@georgedavidson1221 Well it was never direct drive in the river. Like many other city (Toronto being the worst) they sometime had to dump directly when there was alot of rain. They still do, sometimes but they now have bigger tank and an upgraded treatment facility. The biggest in north america. It is worth noting that 70% of the water you flush down the toilet is recycle back into the system.
Other rivers in past days have been saved by devoted people and funding….god bless these folks and I hope they can clean up the beautiful St. Lawrence!
While complaining about dirty Alberta oil and gas, the Kermits import oil from Saudi Arabia and dump raw sewage into the St Lawrence River and other rivers. They apply for and lobby hard to push off building treatment plants saying they do not have the money. Essentially taxation from Alberta goes into the transfer payments of somethingike $12B that Queerbek receives every year. Which part of this is just wrong. Stiffhand Guiltybutt needs something to work on to clean up the enviornment, here is a good fed project for him.
I don't think it's only montreal's dump swerage. It starts from lakes region- both from US (specially heavy industrial areas like Michigan) and canada side, then it flows through lake Erie then through Niagara falls to lake Ontario then from Kingston to finally the st Lawrence river. One really has to understand the geography well to trace back the environmental pollution.
Pretty basic geography learned in early grade school. And an extremely simplified few of the various exceedingly different types of environmental pollution. Here they were primarily focused on raw sewage dumping particular to Montreal. Human waste, for example, far upstream of the St. Lawrence would have near zero affect on the River so your point is irrelevant here. As for toxins & polluted run off, we don't even know how far some of it travels but we do know plastics & all many of garbage will eventually end up in the ocean.
The chemical valley in Sarnia Lambton was at one time a polluter of the St Clair River but that is a thing of the past.The industry is so regulated now that it is impossible for companies to knowingly discharge chemicals into the river.Thing`s are so much better now and I know personally as I worked 39 years at a chemical plant.
@@twotalljones4790 It is reported all kinds of pollution still goes on. "Quebec has agreements to let dozens of companies pollute above legal levels" CBC News · Posted: Aug 17, 2022 " ...a grandfather clause for certain companies to continue to pollute at pre-regulation levels. It can be renewed every five years."
I worked aboard the Vector and Parizeau in the 80s with Dpt Ocean Science in BC and even here the Salish Sea is a giant bowl of sewer from lack of sewage treatment on the CANADIAN side. They just recently got a treatment plant going here on South Vancouver Island. I don't like swimming in the Ocean or our Lakes anymore.
Cargo ships dump directly into the water. No wonder the port of Montreal is a septic tank. They have been doing it for decades into the st-lawrence. My father calls lac st-louis the pooey Louis.
The Trudeau Liberal government gave Montreal an exception to environmental standards to release over a million litres of untreated sewage in their first years in power. 2 weeks later a dozen whales showed up unexplained dead in the St. Lawrence near Montreal. BC releases the equivalent of 1900 oil tankers of raw sewage annually into its lakes, rivers, and ocean shores. Yet we stall out oil development and pipelines that have to follow much more stringent environmental scrutiny. Ask your self if you would rather swim through a pool filled with human sewage or oil?
Part of the rationale is that the St. L River is so incredibly wide that it will eventually disperse one way or another which is sort of true, that’s why we see them smiling at the end, at the specific outflow points however of course it’s much worse. The quickest dispersion would probably occur if the effluent were released in the middle of the river in the rapids instead of the slower shallows as seems to be depicted.
What part of Montreal isn't a "giant toilet"? But in all seriousness, don't people get find for dumping waste water into any body of water in Canada? It would certainly be the case if it was any of us...
Ah yes but this is Quebec and trudork says they can and will do what ever they want , take the lockdowns for example, the bill c-21 ammendments bill c-11 they are just slobbering to get behind these anything to appease there dictaker.
@@jasseyjefferr7787 HA! Well at least you know the classics lol. Fraggle Rock was cool but that's Jim Henson, I loooooved him and the Muppet Show, it was like the late night show for kids lol. Green Giant is Canadian though! But I was born in 82, it was slightly before my time. My favs were Mr. Dressup and Today's Special. See this troll can't even respond to a basic question like that, you on the other hand, you're human! So nice to meet ya! lol.
Yah, well you should take a look at what a sewer the Mississippi River is, all the way down to Louisiana and New Orleans. Huge chemical plants and defunct operations are and have been leaching into the river. I am referring to Carcinogens and Endocrine Disruptors. How much would you like to consume bottom feeding seafood from this area? Same applies to shrimp and such from Asia, it scares me to see this produce in our big food stores, and no one is the wiser! Darwinism? At 8 billion, we must have a lot to spare if we lose a million here and there! The only predator we have is ourselves, and we are focused on ever increasing production to ultimately feed the ever-increasing mouths! Simply put, we exceeded the tipping point. We are currently distracted away from climate change by something far worse, a nuclear winter. Darwinism once again and there is currently no collective on the horizon that will put a stop to the insanity. I left a toonie in the tip jar!
When was this video shot? Only the old Champlain Bridge is there. They started building the new one in 2015. So this footage is at least 7-8 years old. Does this mean the raw sewage problem is from that time period or is it still an on going issue in 2022? I would hope that if it's from back then, they've worked on their sewage treatment problem.
Champlain? They are east of Pont Jacques Cartier for all of the video. The CBC article "Traque des sources d’E. coli dans le fleuve à bord du Lampsilis" is from Aug 6th 2022. But we have heard about sewage releases a few times in the past as exceptional events; this specific spot sounds like a continual problem.
The 1970's clean water act here in the States mandated local governments and industry to fix this. This change came at great cost, but when was the last time you heard of the Cuyahoga River catching on fire!
You have found a place to inform the public.. and thank you for doing so! This sort of awareness in the younger crowd is essential, no fanatics, just some good old research looking for a solution to a decades old problem. This is a heavily industrialized water way that stems from both United States and Canada, the solution would have to be a joint effort between both countries.
@@bozosplayhouse If you actually watched the video you would have seen they were at the outlet pipe from the city of Montreal testing the treated water coming out. Rather than the 100,000 ppm it was 20 million ppm. Stop trying to blame your crap on Michigan.
100’s of BILLION litres of raw sewage being dumped into that river over the past decade, what did you expect? I love how there’s barely an uproar about this but a less impactful pipeline can’t even be built
no ? really ? considering Quebec does not obey Canadas environmental laws who is actually shocked by the billions of litres they dump daily into the river with no penalties . Remember trudeaus speech about Canadians paying for pollution ? apparently he never mentions his home country !!!!!!!
Except that Toronto is much worst. It is so bad in Toronto that they are under mandate to notify resident when they dump sewage into the lake after rainstorm.
Purposely put human waste into the Saint Lawrence River, then refuse a oil pipeline because of the potential enviromental impact. Hypocrisy at its finest.
They didn’t say. Is sewage supposed to be pristine when it comes out of the treatment plants? Instead of measuring at the exit point in the Saint Lawrence, maybe ask city officials if the established norms are respected? Obviously, neutralizing the déjections of a couple of million people are going to be a challenge. Not respecting norms is one thing. Norms that are too lax is another.
Focus on REAL pollution and stop demonizing carbon. If activism (and money) was invested into particulate pollution instead of pie-in-sky ideology, our air and water would be in great shape. The environmental focus of today is all wrong. It needs to change.
I`m 53 and while Lake Ontario seems to be a bit cleaner than when I was a kid the same can't be said for interior lakes. I`m really shocked how bad the water quality is in the Kawartha lakes for example.
The St-Lawrence river is a great alternative for construction waste disposal, only opened during night. I earned two months of free rent by throwing away my landlord's asbestos waste into the river. I'm so proud of supporting local businesses!
Didn't they fix that with the Champlain bridge project? That is gross. At least they spend money on making sure your keyboard is french and the menu at your restaurant has no English. That is way more important
Any one in a position of power please force the city of Pierrefonds-Roxboro to fix the sewers at Rive-Boisée that is on the north- west side of the island of Montreal. For more than (50) Fifty years the city has been dumping sewage there and neither the Provincial or Federal government fines or tells them to fix it. Search for "Pollution de l'eau Parc Rive-Boisé". The city has the money for all kinds of other projects like a rebuilt library and a new marina, but no money to fix the sewers.
Are you aware of Parc national des Îles-de-Boucherville. Its a national park right on the river directly accross Montreal where you can go swim and practice many other activity on the water.
There is NO need for this. There are technologies to clean this up and even to recycle it. It's nothing more than 100% irresponsibility.
Responsible would have been using a boat with an electric engine powered by solar panels. Now they have to clean up the pollution left by their diesel engines. I'm sure they will do that, right?
@@two-sense You missed the message
@@mccullochneil No, I caught the greenwashing just fine.
Dumping sewage that’s not properly treated into a river is kind of disgusting… and the drinking water probably comes from the same river or some city downstream
the snt Lawrence seaway makes trillions a dollars annually im sure they have enough to clean it up
Why is waste water going into any of our water systems? This needs to stop yesterday!
In heavy rains the street runoff is mixed with the household waste due to the design of the system. This idea was fine before the invention of plastic, everything biological will eventually rot so sewage is not that bad, but the plastic and such will never rot back into soil.
Money what else
Not only St Lawrence seaway. Back in the 1970"s studies were done to clean up Lachine Canal which runs through Montreal, PCB's from years of past commercial dumping line the bottom. Clean up was deemed too expensive when the government did studies. Nothing was done. Now, 2022, all sorts of condo projects line the canal, and people enjoy boating, kayaking...bike path follow down the canal. Guess everyone has forgotten the hidden danger lurking in the water and sediment. what you don't know, won't hurt you...
No lawsuits in Canada.
Yap, and Montreal has been dumping raw sewage in the St Lawrence since forever. Maybe the city should invest in water treatment plants?
And people screamed at Victoria for along time and finally the discharge into the sea was cleaned up. Why does Montreal still have this problem? Where is the action? I guess Victoria will have to send the mascot 💩. 😀
Maybe they should pay to clean it up
Montreal has a state of the art treatment system since 2015. They also have the largest waste treatment facility in North America. Note that size does not matter and Montreal was always late to adapt to new technology. But since 2015 we are using state of the art ionizer. Still not enough but much better than it was before and much better then what Toronto is doing. In the case of both city the problem mainly comes from having a singular system for rain and waste water. So when it rains a lot we need to dump sewage.
@@erictremblay6867 We need more rain capture with natural habitats (trees, plants), especially with the changing climate.
"Pollution de l'eau Parc Rive-Boisé" sewage for 50 years
This is happening all over Canada. Municipalities do not invest enough money into essential infrastructure. Building a state of the art sewage treatment plant gets less votes than building sports stadiums, for example. Municipalities would have to be legislated to build and upkeep their infrastructure, and they will not willingly spend the money .
Victoria BC - a much smaller City (383 K) which discharged into Juan de Fuca Strait (near it's outlet to the Pacific OCEAN) was hammered by the Federal Government, and forced to install a hugely expensive sewage treatment plant. But the Francophones - well, Montreal with a population of 1.7 million (4.5 times as large as Victoria) is allowed to discharge raw sewage into a RIVER. Double standard, much?
@@jasondrummond9451 this is a problem all over Quebec, they like to blame Ontario and others, but Quebec has failed for decades to address their water quality at all cities.
@@jasondrummond9451 few fellow citizens remember sometime after 2015 the Quebec government lobbied Ottawa to allow them to continue to discharge sewage water into the Ste. Lawrence River.
Unfortunately they were successful.
Also I must add Halifax & Dartmouth were equally as guilty as Victoria city discharge of untreated sewage into the salt water Halifax harbour. In the middle 1980s local government there received substantial federal funds to initially correct this water issue. However crooked premier and mayor decided they wanted fancy cobblestone streets and street lamps instead on a few selected waterfront roads in the high tourist areas.
Edmonton, Alberta has state of the art sewage treatment, has for decades.
@@richardpluim4426 So does your neighbor to the South, Calgary!! :)
Yet they don't want a pipeline for environmental reasons, what a joke 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I’ve been living most of my life in a small town downstream to montreal. Still a decent 50 miles or so downstream, but once in a while, our town would warn us to not drink water for the following days and only use bottled water or boil the water before drinking it. Theses warning were sometimes following some unusually severe waste discharge from montreal.
Endangering the Lands n humans when all drinking wayer comes from lakes rivers 😢 theres solutions to properly dump All kinds of Waste to keep Pollution from happening
bless u all brothers n sisters everyone matters every life even animals on land n water
I'm surprised that CBC allowed this to be shown instead of running cover for the government
Please keep on distributing the information during at least a year!
I try not to watch content produced by CBC, Canada's Liberal megaphone but I live on the St. Lawrence River so I made an exception this one time. Public money should not be given to any broadcaster that makes revenue from commercials period!
Noticed they pick and choose when to allow comments just like a dictator after taking our tax money
Ecollie is not the worst part of sewage, the chemicals are the worst! Chemicals do not disappear just because you cannot see them! Then all cities also put thousands of tons of salts on winter roads, these chemicals do not disappear either. If you do not understand chemistry, then you should learn. It is fantastic science!
This has been known for many years.....the federal government turned a blind a blind eye to it 20 years ago while at the same time investigating and charging Dawson City Yukon for their transgressions re: the Yukon River.....I guess a town of 1,600 people was easier to pick on
I'm disappointed the video didn't even mention what solutions there are. I mean, how can we solve it? What technologies exist to help clean the water? How much do they each cost? Also, how long would they take to build?
A Rive Boisee here the underground pipes are mixed up. No one is forced to dig them up and fix them for 50 years. "Pollution de l'eau Parc Rive-Boisé". IT costs a lot of money.
Montreal since inception has dumped raw sewage into the water. You see headlines in the newspaper in 2015 and 2018 still dumping raw sewage into the St. Lawrence. It is a culture thing from time immemorial when the village down stream come out to bath and wash their clothes, the village upstream as one body would discharge fecal matter into the river.
One place on the island of Montreal Search for "Pollution de l'eau Parc Rive-Boisé".
This is happening all over Canada, in Victoria Harbour on Vancouver Island raw sewage dumps in there all the time. In most of the Harbour’s in Nova Scotia, Newfoundland and PEI. It’s been going on for decades. It shouldn’t be allowed to happen
It happens in small municipalities, yes. But cities like Halifax and St. John's have long since stopped. It's appalling that Montreal is still doing this.
Victoria wasn't even treating its sewage at all until a couple of decades ago.
This is 2022 ....... this level of contamination is disgusting ...... problems this big are the product of greed and coruption......
The river can't sue anyone, who is going to stop the polluters? "Quebec has agreements to let dozens of companies pollute above legal levels" CBC News · Posted: Aug 17, 2022
it is really interesting how different wastewater treatment is in Canada, province by province and town to town. 20 years ago, I went to a conference on water quality in the Gulf of Maine and on the way to Dartmouth, we passed tertiary (very high level removal of solids, bacteria and nutrients) level wastewater treatment plants, but when we got to Halifax found they were essentially dumping raw sewage, the treatment plant upgrades were delayed etc. I was pretty shocked. The US is no bastion of clean water for sure, but most of our plants have to treat to secondary standards, and disinfect the wastewater before discharging. A result of 10,000 CFU (we call that "too numerous to count") would be a big violation. Preventing the "designated used of recreation in and on the water" is a big issue. Investing in wastewater infrastructure is hard and expensive, we are dealing with 100s of millions in wastewater investment needs in Maine alone, so I totally get it. But c'mon Canada, you can do better.
I'd guess the solution is to stop dumping untreated sewage in the river. Even Halifax has stopped dumping raw sewage in the harbour.
Thank you! (charming, I thought Mayor Plante was cleaning that up? Valois Bay had a very bad reputation when I was a teen in Pte Claire. 1960's? One didn't want to dump a sailboat whilst out there.)
Hypocrisy dump raw sewage and then preach carbon taxes and save the environment
It's not a federal, but a municipal issue.
Water regulations are controlled by the province The St Lawrence is. Federal water.
The municipalities have to follow the water regulations How do they get approval to dump into the. St Lawrence ?..
2 things your completely nescient self seems unaware of: 1) Dumping raw sewage is a municipal & provincial responsibility, in this case Montreal city Council, & the Parti Québécois who holds power in the province. It does not come under federal jurisdiction. 2) Your comparison of this issue with the carbon tax is a complete Straw Man non sequitur. Look it up if you can, you may gain some understanding that in order to be a successful troll you need a brain that holds factual information.
@@georgedavidson1221 it is grandfathered in. The did it in the past, so it is okay to do it today.
The federal government should suit the city of Montréal for damaging a river that belongs to all of canada. Or at least fine the city until it's cheaper to treat their sewage rather than to pay the fines.
As far as I can tell this is a temporary dump and not ongoing. "Although the clearing of sewer lines in this manner has not been acceptable since the 1980’s, the city of Montreal has still obtained permission from the Environment Ministry to clear the sewer in order to continue the demolition of the Bonaventure Expressway." - Antarctica Journal Oct. 21, 2022
It's still an awful thing but it would be nice if CBC could give us the proper context instead of the clickbait title.
It is something to do repeatedly.
"Pollution de l'eau Parc Rive-Boisé" for more than 50 years sewage going into the river due to mixed up pipes.
It's good to have people doing studies to find out that people are the problem. 🤔
Hey everybody, look, einstein's still alive!
Montreal has been dumping sewage for decades
Don't forget Hamilton and Toronto
Expand your horizons dude, it's like this all over the planet
Finally, real news that actually matters!
Has anyone else noticed that CBC turns off comments when their post is pilitical? Nothing like shutting down political debate...Thank you CBC
In other news.
Montreal dumps raw sewage into this river since inception. Edit
How did this current problem arise?
Mystery.
I seen a documentary on this. They never up graded their sewage system to handle any growth
I think there is work going on to build a proper sewage treatment plant but for years in the past and
present it is direct drive into the river
@@georgedavidson1221 Well it was never direct drive in the river. Like many other city (Toronto being the worst) they sometime had to dump directly when there was alot of rain. They still do, sometimes but they now have bigger tank and an upgraded treatment facility. The biggest in north america. It is worth noting that 70% of the water you flush down the toilet is recycle back into the system.
Other rivers in past days have been saved by devoted people and funding….god bless these folks and I hope they can clean up the beautiful St. Lawrence!
wow I was in my class when I came across the St. Lawrence River and wow thank you for making this video it's amazing.
While complaining about dirty Alberta oil and gas, the Kermits import oil from Saudi Arabia and dump raw sewage into the St Lawrence River and other rivers. They apply for and lobby hard to push off building treatment plants saying they do not have the money. Essentially taxation from Alberta goes into the transfer payments of somethingike $12B that Queerbek receives every year. Which part of this is just wrong. Stiffhand Guiltybutt needs something to work on to clean up the enviornment, here is a good fed project for him.
Why do you think it is ok to insult the people from Quebec? Who told you it was acceptable?
I don't think it's only montreal's dump swerage. It starts from lakes region- both from US (specially heavy industrial areas like Michigan) and canada side, then it flows through lake Erie then through Niagara falls to lake Ontario then from Kingston to finally the st Lawrence river. One really has to understand the geography well to trace back the environmental pollution.
Pretty basic geography learned in early grade school. And an extremely simplified few of the various exceedingly different types of environmental pollution. Here they were primarily focused on raw sewage dumping particular to Montreal. Human waste, for example, far upstream of the St. Lawrence would have near zero affect on the River so your point is irrelevant here. As for toxins & polluted run off, we don't even know how far some of it travels but we do know plastics & all many of garbage will eventually end up in the ocean.
So that's the untreated waste from Michigan toilets floating right beside the Montreal waste outlet pipe??? Stop deflecting.
The chemical valley in Sarnia Lambton was at one time a polluter of the St Clair River but that is a thing of the past.The industry is so regulated now that it is impossible for companies to knowingly discharge chemicals into the river.Thing`s are so much better now and I know personally as I worked 39 years at a chemical plant.
@@twotalljones4790 It is reported all kinds of pollution still goes on. "Quebec has agreements to let dozens of companies pollute above legal levels" CBC News · Posted: Aug 17, 2022 " ...a grandfather clause for certain companies to continue to pollute at pre-regulation levels. It can be renewed every five years."
I worked aboard the Vector and Parizeau in the 80s with Dpt Ocean Science in BC and even here the Salish Sea is a giant bowl of sewer from lack of sewage treatment on the CANADIAN side. They just recently got a treatment plant going here on South Vancouver Island. I don't like swimming in the Ocean or our Lakes anymore.
Cargo ships dump directly into the water. No wonder the port of Montreal is a septic tank.
They have been doing it for decades into the st-lawrence. My father calls lac st-louis the pooey Louis.
I'm glad their boat is solar/electric. What? It has two massive diesel engines? Say it isn't so.
The Trudeau Liberal government gave Montreal an exception to environmental standards to release over a million litres of untreated sewage in their first years in power. 2 weeks later a dozen whales showed up unexplained dead in the St. Lawrence near Montreal. BC releases the equivalent of 1900 oil tankers of raw sewage annually into its lakes, rivers, and ocean shores. Yet we stall out oil development and pipelines that have to follow much more stringent environmental scrutiny. Ask your self if you would rather swim through a pool filled with human sewage or oil?
Part of the rationale is that the St. L River is so incredibly wide that it will eventually disperse one way or another which is sort of true, that’s why we see them smiling at the end, at the specific outflow points however of course it’s much worse. The quickest dispersion would probably occur if the effluent were released in the middle of the river in the rapids instead of the slower shallows as seems to be depicted.
But the pipeline is a direct threat to the St.Lawrence
What part of Montreal isn't a "giant toilet"?
But in all seriousness, don't people get find for dumping waste water into any body of water in Canada? It would certainly be the case if it was any of us...
Cote des neiges plamondon bro. Its not a toilet here at all, its the cleanest municiplaity in all of canada.
@@rajramaghoo661
LOL.
Ah yes but this is Quebec and trudork says they can and will do what ever they want , take the lockdowns for example, the bill c-21 ammendments bill c-11 they are just slobbering to get behind these anything to appease there dictaker.
Hamalton Ont just got found out. They dumped 24 years of human waist in to Ont lake.
Love these videos. Please do more of these.
Love the CBC! Always has been a family staple for decades.
@@Dracoool Uh huh, you trolls all read from the same script huh? What was CBC's most famous and second most famous tv kids show?
@@KyleRuggles i always thought FRAGLE ROCK was Canadian nd possibly the GREEN GIANT
@@Dracoool That's all you got?
@@jasseyjefferr7787 HA! Well at least you know the classics lol. Fraggle Rock was cool but that's Jim Henson, I loooooved him and the Muppet Show, it was like the late night show for kids lol.
Green Giant is Canadian though! But I was born in 82, it was slightly before my time. My favs were Mr. Dressup and Today's Special.
See this troll can't even respond to a basic question like that, you on the other hand, you're human! So nice to meet ya! lol.
@@Dracoool Ahh did your research after all the insults, alright. Anyways, buzz off.
If this was in the west Trudope would have shut it down and demanded a cleanup.
Yah, well you should take a look at what a sewer the Mississippi River is, all the way down to Louisiana and New Orleans. Huge chemical plants and defunct operations are and have been leaching into the river. I am referring to Carcinogens and Endocrine Disruptors. How much would you like to consume bottom feeding seafood from this area? Same applies to shrimp and such from Asia, it scares me to see this produce in our big food stores, and no one is the wiser! Darwinism? At 8 billion, we must have a lot to spare if we lose a million here and there! The only predator we have is ourselves, and we are focused on ever increasing production to ultimately feed the ever-increasing mouths! Simply put, we exceeded the tipping point. We are currently distracted away from climate change by something far worse, a nuclear winter. Darwinism once again and there is currently no collective on the horizon that will put a stop to the insanity. I left a toonie in the tip jar!
When was this video shot? Only the old Champlain Bridge is there. They started building the new one in 2015. So this footage is at least 7-8 years old. Does this mean the raw sewage problem is from that time period or is it still an on going issue in 2022? I would hope that if it's from back then, they've worked on their sewage treatment problem.
Champlain? They are east of Pont Jacques Cartier for all of the video. The CBC article "Traque des sources d’E. coli dans le fleuve à bord du Lampsilis" is from Aug 6th 2022. But we have heard about sewage releases a few times in the past as exceptional events; this specific spot sounds like a continual problem.
Montreal should pay to clean it up. Stop dumping.
The 1970's clean water act here in the States mandated local governments and industry to fix this. This change came at great cost, but when was the last time you heard of the Cuyahoga River catching on fire!
Thank you Quebec!
Toronto is contributing much more to the chemichal we find in the St-lawrence then Montreal is. So I guest we could say Thank you Ontario.
What would you expect when the mayor dumped raw sewage for several days straight a few years ago.
You have found a place to inform the public.. and thank you for doing so! This sort of awareness in the younger crowd is essential, no fanatics, just some good old research looking for a solution to a decades old problem. This is a heavily industrialized water way that stems from both United States and Canada, the solution would have to be a joint effort between both countries.
This is improperly treated toilet waste coming from Montreal, not an "international" issue. Stop deflecting.
@@bradcanning875 And really, where does the pollution stem from? Where does the St. Lawrence come from? Surely not just a bubbling outflow in Quebec.
@@bozosplayhouse If you actually watched the video you would have seen they were at the outlet pipe from the city of Montreal testing the treated water coming out. Rather than the 100,000 ppm it was 20 million ppm. Stop trying to blame your crap on Michigan.
Are people making St. Lawrence River their washroom now,? 😲
100’s of BILLION litres of raw sewage being dumped into that river over the past decade, what did you expect? I love how there’s barely an uproar about this but a less impactful pipeline can’t even be built
Cities have to get their act together. The St-Lawrence is a jewel and it is still full of life.
Those things are everywhere. We always called them “the upwelling of effluvia”
no ? really ? considering Quebec does not obey Canadas environmental laws who is actually shocked by the billions of litres they dump daily into the river with no penalties . Remember trudeaus speech about Canadians paying for pollution ? apparently he never mentions his home country !!!!!!!
Province, still at this time
So unfortunate. The polluters should be held accountable
That would be Ville de Montreal.
there is nothing more gratifying than finding physical proof of crap outflows 🤷♂
What do you expect when you have Quebec and Ontario pumping in tens of thousands of gallons of unfiltered waste water into the river every hour
It's pretty fitting as Montreal is a toilet in general.
Except that Toronto is much worst. It is so bad in Toronto that they are under mandate to notify resident when they dump sewage into the lake after rainstorm.
@@erictremblay6867 Only 2 spelling errors this time.
Purposely put human waste into the Saint Lawrence River, then refuse a oil pipeline because of the potential enviromental impact. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Just like their chosen one Treudork
what should we expect when most of Montreal and I expect Quebec dump its sewage raw into rivers. I am not surprised.
Where is it coming from
Montreal.
and yet Quebec pisses and moans over a pipeline....
That’s Canada for ya! Money before the environment.
They didn’t say. Is sewage supposed to be pristine when it comes out of the treatment plants? Instead of measuring at the exit point in the Saint Lawrence, maybe ask city officials if the established norms are respected? Obviously, neutralizing the déjections of a couple of million people are going to be a challenge. Not respecting norms is one thing. Norms that are too lax is another.
Hey CBC why don't you ask Trudeau why he doesn't fix it?
Yes But Montreal keeps Dumping Raw Sewage into the River??????
Fine Montreal big time
They need to build treatment plants ASAP
Lake Ontario used to be pretty bad for ecoli and sewage runoff too. It's gotten better but still not great.
Our lakes are becoming toxic.
Absolutely shameful!!! Shame shame shame... come on Montreal!!!!!
So maybe Trudeau should clean up his own back yard before he criticized other provinces.
Focus on REAL pollution and stop demonizing carbon. If activism (and money) was invested into particulate pollution instead of pie-in-sky ideology, our air and water would be in great shape. The environmental focus of today is all wrong. It needs to change.
I`m 53 and while Lake Ontario seems to be a bit cleaner than when I was a kid the same can't be said for interior lakes. I`m really shocked how bad the water quality is in the Kawartha lakes for example.
"Don't 💩 in the water you drink"
-~Ötzi
Just fix the problem
This SHOULD be a FEDERAL LAW to protect our waterways, make it ILLEGAL to dump untreated sewage into our lakes, rivers & streams!
That is really heart breaking to see this. We as humans should really be able to do better . Let's protect our land and waterways. 2022
The St-Lawrence river is a great alternative for construction waste disposal, only opened during night.
I earned two months of free rent by throwing away my landlord's asbestos waste into the river. I'm so proud of supporting local businesses!
You need more science and fewer people talking about them.
where else would fish go to the bathroom? XD of course its a toilet?
So does Hamilton ON, big deal!
Can't dump raw sewage and not expect consequences
Montreal and any other city still doing this should be fined daily until they change it! That may get their attention!
Didn't they fix that with the Champlain bridge project? That is gross. At least they spend money on making sure your keyboard is french and the menu at your restaurant has no English. That is way more important
Do the Trent river please guys!!!?
Oh my
It probably didn't help when Harper let go of them dump that Billy gallons of sewer into that River as well back then that there will be no harm right
Your comment makes no sense.
Meth?
@@garywagner2466 That's just liberals being liberals.
Is it any wonder with Quebec dumping raw sewage into it.
Any one in a position of power please force the city of Pierrefonds-Roxboro to fix the sewers at Rive-Boisée that is on the north- west side of the island of Montreal. For more than (50) Fifty years the city has been dumping sewage there and neither the Provincial or Federal government fines or tells them to fix it. Search for "Pollution de l'eau Parc Rive-Boisé". The city has the money for all kinds of other projects like a rebuilt library and a new marina, but no money to fix the sewers.
Pierrefonds-Roxboro is now part of Montreal city limits.
The PM is only worried about carbon, plus this sounds like Quebec nothing will be done.
They spent more time talkin about life on a boat than the friggin wastewater
Ottawa must give more money to Québec: 30% actually hits the ground after political corruption?
Holland has the right method, check it out.. You can drink there water right out of the pipe...
Montreal should be ashamed of itself!
what the F is Montreal doing, not properly managing their water waste.
That's why we no longer visit Quebec City. So sad😡🤮😭😭
Our government (US) should do something about our northern neighbor. Disgusting.
Spend money on restoration instead of more studies
But it`s Montreal and Queeeebec so it is okay right Turdeau ?
Those first two girls are babes, Montreal women hit
Meredith was born male
Didn't even have to watch the vid. It was Montreal.
It’s been a toilet for decades
Are you aware of Parc national des Îles-de-Boucherville. Its a national park right on the river directly accross Montreal where you can go swim and practice many other activity on the water.