Cheap Tire Balancer 680 Machine Unboxing, Test, and Review
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- This video is a review and test of a cheap Chinese tire balancer. More information below!
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👍 just got myself one and didnt feel like reading the instructions. Thanks for the video
I clean the spot for the weights with lacquer thinner. If evaporates immediately and will remove any oil, grease, brake fluid, whatever. When I've finished with installing the weights, I put aluminum tape over the weights to prevent them from coming off.
Nice video, thanks. Also, on your race wheels, don't forget to use aluminum tape over the weights to keep them from flying off when the tires and wheels get hot!
Great tip
Hey not sure if anyone else has told you but the orientation of the machine can cause damage to a vehicle in a bay next to it if it throws a wheel wight. turn it ninety degrees and that way if it throws a weight it wont hit a car! Hope it helps! Great video! Thanks
Ah that's smart! And a lesson better learned not through experience haha. I'll have to see if there's enough room to turn it - I was a little disappointed it didn't come with a cover.
I think the cover is an option. Thanks for the video.
Now that it's 4 years later, what are your thoughts on this Tire Balancer?
Would you do anything differently? Anything you would add?
One problem with the cheap balancer: they need to be calibrated with 20" , 21" , 22" rim to perform ok with the standard car size wheels up to 19". If your cheap balancer is continously asking to add weights , try to calibrate first. If it doesn't help, calibrate with the bigger wheel diameter. Weight over 40g for a cheap balancer is a problem so if it's more, take the wheel on the tyre machine and rotate the tyre 180deg. In some cases I never stick the weights in full in the first attempt. This allows to move the weights if the machine shows an extra weight in a different spot.
I just got mine. The first thing I’m going to say is that the instructions suck big time. I own a ranger balancer and the instructions are 100 x’s better. Other than the instructions for the money you can’t ask more. I like it 👍 great video, thanks
Bwah ha ha ha....are you "flummuxed"...yes..it's pidgeon Chinese. I rewrote part of mine.
I own shop and I've been out of a balancer for a while. Looking to buy another one good video.
Thanks, so it needs a push to get the wheel to spin or is that something you decided to do to speed up the process ? 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Being a cheap China machine I would do it just to preserve the motor...
Hi, does anyone know if performing a calibration with the supplied 100g weight is a good idea? It is just that I don't think it was performed in this video. If so, how is the calibration done on this balancer?
ruclips.net/video/FfWX8vG-0pQ/видео.html
This covers some helpful tips, and shows machine calibration towards the end.
It's not idea, you should do it weekly.
@@jdisdetermined Can you calibrate Manual HF Balancer or it is only for more precise balancers?
How do you set it up with steel rim as one that bought recently exactly the same as yours does not come with manual. Can u show me or atleast tell me how it is done please, i really need this. greatly be appreciated. Thank U
How do you calibrate this thing, I can't find easy to read instructions in English on the one I got...
Hey man did you ever find out what that last rubber piece was in the box that looks like a jar opener??
It snaps onto the big end of the plastic "cup" that holds the wheel in place! I asked an ex-tire tech!
Do you have access to a known good machine like a Hunter? I'm curious to see a side-by-side comparison.
Test it by putting 1/2 ounce to the wheel inside or outside and see if it counter balances 1/2 ounce on the opposite side.
I was wondering where do you get parts from if you need to replace a broken one?
GREAT VIDEO'S very impressed! Can you tell me one thing the actual width of the tire changing machine and the tire balancer thank you very much
I'll try to get that for you soon!
Did you need to calibrate the machine? If so, what are the steps? Great vid thanks for sharing!!
I don't know if you have to or not! That said I didn't and balanced a bunch of tires so far and they all ride great
the wheel weight that came in the box is for calibration
@@GRSUSANyou are absolutely right. It will work ok, but not great without calibration. Why go to all this trouble and not bother?
i’m quite suprised it was shipped in a half decent container ! the Chinese are famous for throwing large heavy items into cardboard boxes and shipping them and usually the items get broken and beat up i’ve seen other reviews talking about these not having tire shrouds and muddy or wet tires can be a issue ? that looks like it would be a very easy solution to fabricate something either out of wood or maybe even a trailer fender or a plastic trash can ?
Hi, thank you for your video. I just got to myself the same machine and I have a question for you, does the adapters go all the way through the shaft of the wheel balancer machine? None of my adapters go all the way in, they stop until the threaded part of the shaft ends. PLEASE!! let me know if that is supposed to be like that? Thank you
Hi, I see you have the yellow circle mark on the tyre aligned with the valve stem. I thought that if both red & yellow marks are present then the red takes priority & should be aligned. What's your thoughts on this, thanks.
That's true, but the red gets lined up with the balance mark on the wheel, not the valve stem. And I wasn't able to find the balance mark on the wheel as not all wheels have them added by the manufacturer.
@@TimNummy
The valve hole is drilled at the low spot after an Aluminum wheel is machined. Red dot always goes at valve on aluminum.
Ford and Dodge steel "may" have white paint mark at low spot inside wheel, red dot goes there.
No white dot on steel, yellow goes to valve.
Can you show us how you calibrated the machine prior to use or does it come calibrated?
I assumed it came calibrated. I'm not sure if a way to calibrate it.
Has anyone written a set of instructions for this machine in English? Everything I have is in pigeon English (faux English = "sort of Chinese". I need to calibrate my wheel balance..yes the 100 gram weight included for calibrate amounts to 3.5 ounces. Please help.....anyone please.
This is for the Eagle EB-1040/ EB-1070, but should work with the SBM680.
Only calibrate the balancer if there are problems balancing tires (such as chasing weight, etc.) Be careful to follow each step precisely, correctly and accurately. A balanced tire is preferable, but not necessary; so long as there is no physical damage to the rim.
Do not use a tire with a bent or damaged rim.
Do not attempt to calibrate the balancer with a rim only. You must use a complete tire and rim assembly.
1- Turn the unit on. Mount a medium size (14″ - 15″) tire on the shaft, and enter the three (3) parameters (Distance, Width and Diameter).
2- Press F+C button. Display will show [CAL][CAL]. Hold the D and C buttons until the indicators stop blinking, then release the buttons.
3- Press the START button. The tire will spin. After it stops, the display will read: [Add][100]. Attach a 3.5oz. (100g) weight on the outside of the wheel rim.
4-Press the START button. The tire will spin. After it stops, the display will read: [Add][100]. Attach a 3.5oz. (100g) weight on the inside of the wheel rim.
5- Press the START button, again. The tire will spin a final time. After it stops, the display will read: [End][Cal].
6- The self-calibration is complete. Turn the machine off, then on again to ensure the data is stored properly. This the most important step.
(Self-Calibration values are stored in memory and maintained when the machine is turned off, with storage lasting about 10 years. However Self-Cal may be performed whenever values are in doubt.)
Is it shown on the tire where is the heaviest part? And how to find the heaviest part of the wheel? Reading instruction on HF Wheel Balancer I came across the statement, that if those 2 points (heaviest parts) coincide, it is not possible to balance the tire, you need to rotate it 180 degrees relatively to the wheel. I've never seen any discussion on the subject, besides that instruction for HF Balancer. Thank you for the informative film.
Most tires have a balance dot (yellow) on the sidewall. The tire gets mounted with that mark lined up with the valve stem on the wheel. A red dot, is supposed to go at the high spot of the wheel. Whatever the hell that means! LOL
@@maximusmax4557 Thank you. I also never could understand the meaning of that red dot and go w/yellow only in the manner described above in your note.
Did you grounded? Or just used the ground from the plug?
Have you had any problems with the alum2 settings? Every time I put in all the wheel information on the machine and let’s say I’m balancing a 15 inch wheel, after I have all the tire info in and put it on the alum2 setting it goes from 15 inch to 14.8 inch. Have you had that problem? Appreciate if you can let me know, thanks
To use Alu2, press the Alu button on the right side until all lights are off (default mode), then input the three numbers in first, then choose Alu2 mode
Mine does that as well, best I can guess is that it is supposed to do that…🤷♂️
Nice video how much its cost sir.thank soo much for your video it is big help for me as starter.greetings from philippines
Does it only balance Chinese tyres, or can you use it for all nationalities of tyre? 😜
Haha, it will work on any nationality tire but the tariffs are higher.
I always thought you need distance to first inner weight position + diameter, then distance to outer weight position + diameter. I don't see what you do measuring the width of the rim. That method is used for steel rims only where inner and outer weight are on the lips i.e. same diameter, and distance to outer is distance to inner lip + (indeed) width of tire.
do you have the owners manual for this? mine did not come with one and would like to know what all the buttons extra buttons you did not go through are for exactly
Is this Chinesium still working or is it a big paper weight now?
thank you!
How do you static balance
Question: I have the same machine the adapter outside the tire before the quick release clamp seems weak and I have fear of breaking the plastic adapter. Will it break?
Stil have it? How has it been? Any problems?clean evo
How often does this machine need to be calibrated? And how?
From other videos I've seen, that weight he finds in the beginning is used for calibrating the machine. Seems it only needs to be done if you feel it's not working correctly.
You’re supposed to calibrate it and do a first time setup of the machine as soon as you receive it. Hopefully they did that before filming this video. Or maybe it had relatively good calibration right out of the box.
can this machine work with tires on pickup trucks?
I think those are centimeters, not inches.
Thanks for the video! How do you change the weight's readout from grams to ounces?
Hi there! Did you ever find out how to change the setting?
This machine looks just like a Ranger, is it?
How to change gram to ounce?
Didn't the wheel balancer come with a wheel guard
What speed is it spinning the tire? Seems fairly slow. Thanks for posting.
How you know that you have to put it on 12 o’clock Direction
That's what the directions say :)
I would think having the machine on the floor is better then on the pallet for vibration issues?
You're right - I left it on the pallet to make it easier to move if I decided to put it somewhere else, but I need to get the pallet out from under it.
Tim, how do you know which aluminum wheel setting to select!? Whats the difference between the 3 options?
Where the weights are applied.
Hi friends, does anybody know what the largest balancer cone size that is included? I am hoping to use the balancer for eight lug wheels and truck tires.
Did you get it at harbor freight? If so or not how much and where did you buy it? Thx..
Amazon! And there a link in the description
What cost for it can i get the price
Hey Tim,
Are you really sure it is 1.75oz? Thats like nearly 50 gramm... At the shop i worked at we used to trash wheels if they exceed 40gramm on one side... Or is my oz/gramm calculation off?
You're right on the conversion... it was the worst of the 4 but I don't know that it was excessive. It'd be interesting to see how that one balances when the it needs the next tire.
All of the others only needed .5oz in a single spot. I'd attribute this one to an odd tire, not the wheel.
been in the business for 7 years 1.75 oz is a pretty average factory off balance
I clicked on the down below link through Amazon seeing if this item was available and it's not available anymore do you have any other recommendations on what to buy? Thank you
Yeah, you buy a quality used balancer from me. Less than $1200 and a sh*t load better machine. Plus when you're done with the machine...you can resell it. That chinese machine will be worth zero real soon and the owner will not be able to find a buyer.
Ebay
How much did you pay ? Why do you have to spin by hand first?
I picked one up in Toronto for $1100 cad, they recommend spinning the wheel to take the l load off the motor, it's easier on the motor and less inrush from a 15a circuit since these are usually residential units
TImNummy, I bought two tire machine/balancer combos just like yours two weeks ago for my personal use (not a business) garage. Man I'm having a hell of a time getting them calibrated with the 100g included weight.. Is there anyway you could post up the calibration method that you used? I'd be very thankful...
craftsman10mm I am having the same problem, as is a buddy of mine. The machine has you putting weights all over the place. You ever figure anything out?
did you guys figure out how to Cal this thing?
why would you think that you can buy a piece of garbage and have it work correctly? you think it's cheap just because they don't pay the workers? the chinese cut corners on design, the components, the assembly, quality control doesn't exist. do you know why? because there are no boats going back to China with a bunch of returns. The crap is so cheap that there is no benefit to shipping it back. Instead that POS is sold on the store return market or re-sold to some unsuspecting soul who thinks they are getting a 'new' machine when even the first buyer was buying a piece of garbage. You'll never learn. keep looking for something for nothing....
@rebelrider8312 I just bought one of these, and I have yet to do anything with it, but I have read you have to make sure the thing is absolutely level and it helps tremendously to bolt it to the floor. I think I'm going to use fender washers to level mine, and then use Tapcon screws to screw it to my concrete floor!
@kevinatspeed Tell us how you REALLY feel about it! 😁
How far into the width of the wheel should one place the weights..?
Depends on how you have the machine set. But typically as close to the edge as reasonable
Can these machines be changed from ounces to grams or grams to ounces?
As far as i know, no, this model is oz and inch by default
thats a completely new shop... whats up there?
That's what's been keeping me so busy lately... Got a new shop :) ruclips.net/video/ZBnSV-ltQgA/видео.html
i absolutely hate youtubes new algorithm, i have the bell activated on your channel and it still didnt show me that video
Should've showed how to calibrate the machine before using it.
will that tire changer and wheel balancer work on motorcycle wheels?
It should, yes
You have to get the motorcycle tire adapter
What vehicle is this slick for? Sorry if I missed it.
They are on my Evo 9! Maxxis RC-1's 255/40/17. /shamelessplug
I want that machines. But balancing on a pallette? 5,5 cm
Yeah, I did that because I'm not totally decided on where I'm going to leave it... once I decide on a permanent location, I'll remove the pallet.
I wish someone would explain how it senses (figures out) where weight is needed.
It has vibration sensors that detect an unbalance condition. It has an encoder/resolver for the wheel position so that it knows where the unbalance comes from. It's all math from there.
How do you know if one blows a fuse
They have 2 fuses under the top cover..I used a contenuity setting on the multimeter
its a rammer or a hamench
I didnt know they have 1oz weights! I always end up duct taping the weights. They never stay on
Clean the rim better. Clean it with something that leaves no wax or oil residue.
I first clean the area with lacquer thinner to remove all oils, and then cover the weights with aluminum tape. Never come off.
This machine says that you can do motorcycle wheels.....how?
It needs an additional adapter $100-250 Amazon
I want one
$850
It's a Wammer :P
hamench
Hammer
The instructions sucked ass...thanks for the video, made it easy peezy!!!
If I had one of these, I would balance all my wheels without the tire........
Just doing a static balance on the rim and lining up the dot on the tire with the heaviest point on the rim works really well. The shortcut is to assume the valve stem is the heaviest part, but that's never been true on any wheel I've done. Since tires are never perfectly balanced, balancing the wheel alone wouldn't get you very far.
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Definitely not a wrench. Pliers.
Yeah.. I noticed I mis-spoke when editing... oh well.
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Wow really that's one cheap wheel balancer , it's so cheap, it's push start! the chinese dont play!
It works fantastic and has already paid for itself....
@@TimNummy Ok man thats great , im an ASE MASTER TECH, i also have a electronic wheel balance it just a step above the one u have and it works great, However if i was to buy a new one i would upgrade, but for starters cheap is the best way to go! so your on the right track!
Never buy this machine l buy 2 new machine never work
The unboxing trend needs to end. Really annoying waste of time. The most we would ever want to know is what is in the box. Really, we just want to know how it works. Watching somebody turn a crate around is not on anyone's hit list.
the box is worth more than the contents. and you'll figure that out 3 weeks later when the POS machine fails.
Kevin Johnson Dude, shut up. People buy what they can afford. I know someone with one of these machines that’s been flawless for a few years now.
I dont know a single person her in Germany that has a tire Balancer for privat use... I think that is kind of nonsense... :/
Well... I went here: www.tirerack.com/content/tirerack/desktop/en/deliver_installation.html typed in my zip code, and picked the first one on the list. It says they charge $35 per tire... so $140 + tax and such to have 4 tires mounted and balanced... for the sake of easy math, call it $1400 for the cost of the machines.. The pay back period is 10 tire changes... if I have 5 cars on the road, I only need to go through 2 sets of tires each to make it worth it. Not to mention the car trailer with 4 tires, my motorcycle, or the favors I can do for friends and family and any unexpected flats.... And that's not even considering the fact that getting tires changed at a shop is almost always a half-day affair, if not a full/multi day process (and in my experience, they almost always end up scratched or missing valve stem caps or whatever which is incredibly frustrating)... so if you factor in either having to take time off work or take an uber/taxi back and forth (or inconvenience friends) and such then payback is even faster. With already having done two sets of tires so far, I'd be surprised if I'm not saving money within a year.
All that said, is it really that unreasonable? Especially if I have the space for them next to a lift to make the whole job really quick and easy?
Ah Ok, Oh man thats expensiv... ! We pay around 12 to 32 € wich is about 14 to 37 $ for a hole set of tires... Or we get it even free with an inspection...
Yeah that's pretty cheap... Walmart used to mount them for a couple bucks each but not anymore. And you definitely get what you pay for - unless they are junk wheels, most places don't seem to exercise enough care to make it worth it for me.
TimNummy I don't know we have a balancer in almost evry shop even the small ones...So it isnt a big deal to find a good and cheap one... : )
@@derwissenskiosk8041 Any kind of service has gotten absurdly expensive in the US. Even small shops are charging $100/hr or more for service. Last time I had a tire store mount and balance tires, it was $90US. It would have been more, but I asked them not to include warranties, not change valve stems, and all the other crap they "upsell" to you. Ten minutes of work for $90. Like I said, it was the "Last time" I paid someone else to scratch my wheels.