My 28 Nosler is a Fierce fury long range 26” bbl and it needed a jump to shoot one hole groups. I started just off the lands and worked back to SAAMI specs, the deeper I seated the bullet the tighter the groups got. Best load was 82gr retumbo using 175gr ABLRS’. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR 28.
I use the same tool to find max CBTO. I find pushing the pill right out, sliding the modified brass up into the chamber then locking it down stops sticking and gives a more consistent measurement. It’s only a starting point so no biggie but I thought I’d share that tidbit.
You have to make sure that the cartridge will work in your clip for some guns . I have a sako 85 that long throated . 120 thousands off the lands is as close as I can get in order for them to fit in the clip . Sucks . Some bullets almost fall out when touching the lands .
Keep it simple man. Finding the lands is not hard to do, and it does not take any special tools. Read the how to section of most bullet manufacture's reloading manual, and it will walk you through the easy way to find the lands, using a piece of once fired brass, and sooting the bullet. No comparators, no fancy tools, no BS!!!
If your not using a fired case to take this measurement or at least measure base to shoulder of a fired case and the Hornady case gauge this measurement taking it this way means nothing!! The case will grow in length especially to match the chamber after fireing it throwing that all off!! So really taking that measurement this way is only giving you a measurement from the shoulder to the lands that fired case might stretch 5 maybe even 10 tho and u think your 15 tho off when in reality your 20 to 25 tho off starting this way!! A better way is to seat a bullet in an expanded case close the bolt let the lands seat the bullet now you atleast have an accurate measurement from the bolt face to the lands or measure difference between fired case and modified case and add that difference to the measurement you get taking it the way you did here!!
I don't disagree, but either method it's more about consistency in one's method. I've done it both ways using a fired case and a Hornady modified case and both will work if your consistent. Most people watching just need the basics, this isn't a advanced reloading class!! Lol
@ the only problem with the modified case is once your new brass is fired and expanded base to shoulder measurement is going to be longer and that length has to be subtracted from the COAL somewhere to match your original measurement and the only adjustment you have in your COAL is how far the bullets is seated into the case. So on your second fire not even knowing your doing it your seating the bullet deeper by that length in the case you gained through expansion. I believe 100% this is the reason a lot of people buy 100 pieces of brass work a load on that new brass and as soon as they shoot all the cases and come around to the once fired brass the load falls apart or they gain 20 fps on the second fireing. When you seat a bullet further into the case your using up case volume and that is the increase in velocity if anything your should loose velocity because now your case has a larger volume after expanding the a chamber. If this is not the case why does the velocity alway go up when physics dictates it should in reality go down. Your right though you tell the average reloader this it won’t take long before you can smell the wood burning lol!! The average guy has a hard enough time getting the same measurement with a Hornady case gauge 3 times out of 15 so why complicate it I guess!! These are the kind of things one needs to know though if you plan to advance in hand loading beyond just making hunting ammo!! I know I never cared for this method from the beginning because I picked up on this flaw the first time I measured a modified case. I now shoot a case and do all case work like I’m going to reload that case then I drill and tap my case on the lathe and I don’t have these problems with loads coming apart on once fired brass or velocity loss or gains like a lot of people experience.
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My 28 Nosler is a Fierce fury long range 26” bbl and it needed a jump to shoot one hole groups. I started just off the lands and worked back to SAAMI specs, the deeper I seated the bullet the tighter the groups got. Best load was 82gr retumbo using 175gr ABLRS’. GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR 28.
I use the same tool to find max CBTO. I find pushing the pill right out, sliding the modified brass up into the chamber then locking it down stops sticking and gives a more consistent measurement.
It’s only a starting point so no biggie but I thought I’d share that tidbit.
I just started the same process, for a 7mm Rem Mag. Found jam and working on a load.
I use that exact method but I do it three times to make sure I'm getting consistent pressure against the lands with the bullet
Very knowledgeable video thank you
What bottom metal and mag did you use?
@@cpreit8862 it’s a Hawkins and a flush mag
You have to make sure that the cartridge will work in your clip for some guns . I have a sako 85 that long throated . 120 thousands off the lands is as close as I can get in order for them to fit in the clip . Sucks . Some bullets almost fall out when touching the lands .
Are you willing to share who built the rifle for you?
Kinport peak rifles
Keep it simple man. Finding the lands is not hard to do, and it does not take any special tools. Read the how to section of most bullet manufacture's reloading manual, and it will walk you through the easy way to find the lands, using a piece of once fired brass, and sooting the bullet. No comparators, no fancy tools, no BS!!!
If your not using a fired case to take this measurement or at least measure base to shoulder of a fired case and the Hornady case gauge this measurement taking it this way means nothing!! The case will grow in length especially to match the chamber after fireing it throwing that all off!! So really taking that measurement this way is only giving you a measurement from the shoulder to the lands that fired case might stretch 5 maybe even 10 tho and u think your 15 tho off when in reality your 20 to 25 tho off starting this way!! A better way is to seat a bullet in an expanded case close the bolt let the lands seat the bullet now you atleast have an accurate measurement from the bolt face to the lands or measure difference between fired case and modified case and add that difference to the measurement you get taking it the way you did here!!
I don't disagree, but either method it's more about consistency in one's method. I've done it both ways using a fired case and a Hornady modified case and both will work if your consistent. Most people watching just need the basics, this isn't a advanced reloading class!! Lol
@ the only problem with the modified case is once your new brass is fired and expanded base to shoulder measurement is going to be longer and that length has to be subtracted from the COAL somewhere to match your original measurement and the only adjustment you have in your COAL is how far the bullets is seated into the case. So on your second fire not even knowing your doing it your seating the bullet deeper by that length in the case you gained through expansion.
I believe 100% this is the reason a lot of people buy 100 pieces of brass work a load on that new brass and as soon as they shoot all the cases and come around to the once fired brass the load falls apart or they gain 20 fps on the second fireing. When you seat a bullet further into the case your using up case volume and that is the increase in velocity if anything your should loose velocity because now your case has a larger volume after expanding the a chamber. If this is not the case why does the velocity alway go up when physics dictates it should in reality go down.
Your right though you tell the average reloader this it won’t take long before you can smell the wood burning lol!! The average guy has a hard enough time getting the same measurement with a Hornady case gauge 3 times out of 15 so why complicate it I guess!! These are the kind of things one needs to know though if you plan to advance in hand loading beyond just making hunting ammo!!
I know I never cared for this method from the beginning because I picked up on this flaw the first time I measured a modified case. I now shoot a case and do all case work like I’m going to reload that case then I drill and tap my case on the lathe and I don’t have these problems with loads coming apart on once fired brass or velocity loss or gains like a lot of people experience.