What happened with recoil happened naturally. When I press the trigger slowly I don’t know when the gun will fire exactly . This one has much more recoil than any 300 rum I’ve ever done:)
I can hear to say this. Clearly lifting the rifle after it recoiled. I was hoping you were just trying to be funny but judging by your reply here I’d say no. That was a straight up act dude, you can clearly see yourself lifting up the rifle AFTER it actually recoiled. What a tool.
Awful 80’s actions….???????? You must be of the “Burger King Entitled” generation..!! Those “Awful” 1970’s-80’s Remington rifles were straight up accurate Don Pardo!! One of the most accurate rifles from that time period was the Remington 600..the most ugliest rifle you could’ve imagined..that was absolutely one of the most accurate out of the box factory rifle ever produced. But hell..what do I know!! We just learned how to hunt…hardcore much of it. Kind of unique eh? Imagine that!! We leaned “How To” hunt and shoot!! And we didn’t need to dial in turret settings..we knew our rifles shooting ability inside and out!! So we just went hunting and filled our tags in multiple states season after season after season!! Eat at Burger King Lately??!! Eh?
I’m actually poking fun at anyone that would scoff at those older Remington rifles. I believe you were jabbing at the dude faking that recoil. So..nothing personal.
@@Pew_pewchronicles I jumped in here to say the same thing...... @elevationrifles I don't agree with a lot of the stuff you say in your videos, but I follow you because there is something to be learned everywhere and I have taken some positive things from your videos, but that over dramatic, poorly executed recoil was embarrassing, bro. You spoke out of both sides of your mouth in your opening comments. This is coming from a long time precision shooter/competitor, long range hunter, professional ammo manufacturer..... do better.
Great comparison. What was the additional movement of your head and gun upward after the recoil? It didn’t look right at normal speed and looked even more odd at .25 speed.
At my home range I see two very distinct types of shooters. The 'younger' crowd that basically is there to turn money into noise (it's always the ammo or gun's fault they shoot like crap) and the old heads that are methodical, paced and with purpose. Obvisously, the 'get closer' crowd has never hunted western states where 350 yards and beyond IS close. Thanks for bringing us along!
Ok, first, thank you for the video. This video demonstrates exactly what I have argued many times before. If you stalk in too close, you risk bumping your game and are forced to take a quick shot with what ever rest is available to you, or no rest at all. I’m definitely not advocating that everyone become a long range hunter, but for those who have put in the time, money and have the ability, longer shots can be done with confidence. I have yet to take an 800 yard shot on elk, but I’m confident that I can if conditions are right and I can’t get closer.
Lol iv been watching your videos after you came out with the backfire challenge looked your shop up and your like 20 min from me (mercer). Small world lol
I find it annoying when people try to impose their personal ethics upon others and are judgemental about it. The finer details of hunting ethics is a very personal thing and out in the bush regulation comes in the form of self regulation. I agree with your comments that ethical range is highly variable and depends on each individuals training, experience, gear, and technique. Your argument is compelling and well illustrated. Instability does introduce error at any distance. Distance does introduce risks that are less significant at shorter ranges. And buck fever ruins everything gosh darn it! Though it can be irritating to observe people pointing their bony fingers at each other over range ethics in comment sections, I think it is a good sign that a majority of hunters do have a moral compass and do consider ethical practice to be an important part of their hunting experience. Dialogue on the subject is all good even if it is a little cranky at times. Cheers!
I mean yea a muzzle brake does reduce recoil. I do feel like it was a bit oversell, but either way I enjoyed the video. I love practicing further ranges. also why I purchased a really nice Bergara 300 win mag just for long range accuracy
It would be interesting to see what the 30-06 could have done prone or from the bench at 200 yards. The group sizes may have been similar from that range as well.
Seriously?? Off the bench you’re suggesting a 30-06 can’t hold tight groups and 5 inch groups are to be expected..from a 30-06…????? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I don’t have the words to say what sort of response would be expected…but..ARE YOU SERIOUS??? That comment of yours is all that I or any experienced shooter needs to understand that you’ve no clue…you’re clueless of just how accurate a decent acceptable 30-06 setup is. Hell..I had a Marlin 30-30 once with a simple 4x power scope that easily broke into the 4 inch grouping at 200 yards. 30-06’s I set up break into/under 2inches at 200 on a bad day. Hilarious simply hilarious that there are so many that are so dooped!
I'm not saying all 30-06. Just as some shoot well under moa some shoot well over moa as well. Just saying it would have been interesting to see the results from the bench or prone (a more stable position). The group sizes may have been similar or they may have been much better at that distance given the more stable position.
It was all staged…come on…besides the fact with his bipod setup and bench..that group at the supposed 800 yards..?? Not a chance in hell…besides the fact as to what accuracy could be had in a real hunting scenario. That group at the “Supposed” 800 yards is hard enough with a hunting rifle let alone trying for a deer antelope etc with no support other than sling or rocks. There’s not a single 30-06 I own (More than one) that patterns outside of 1 inch with cold barrels and 3 shot groups. Remember..hunting diameter barrels even with magnum barrrls..3 shots are it…not five. If we had a hunting tag along shooting more than 3 shots at an animal…he’d be sent packing. Fact. We rarely took more than one shot on an animal but there were the occasional 2 shot kills. Just saying.
@@BusterBibb He was definitely proving a point although I have no reason to doubt he wasn't actually shooting his custom 7prc to 800 yards. I haven't rewatched the video but from what I recall his videos always seemed well done and informative. With a custom rifle, good load development and a good bullet I have no reason to doubt him. I have a custom 25-06ai that will group moa or better to 500 yards (that's as far as I've taken it so far as that is the limit in my backyard range). I'm glad you have multiple 30-06 rifles that are accurate. I actually really like the 30-06 and that will likely be my next rifle. However, if you're relying on the average group size for three round groups I would encourage you to save your targets and overlay the groups on top of each other or better yet take the same targets to the range for your first three shots from each rifle. Once you have 20-30 rounds on the target you will have a statistically valid group and know the true accuracy of your rifle. You're absolutely correct in saying that hunting rifles(especially with lightweight steel barrels) shouldn't be expected to shoot more than 3 round groups since the barrel will likely be quite warm after that and possibly start throwing the group off. That said, I have found, from my own experience, in multiple rifles that if I rely on the averages of 3 to 5 round groups I get a false sense of the true accuracy of the rifle. If I take those groups and plot them on top of each other or use the same target on multiple days for 20-30 rounds then I get a truer sense of the potential of the rifle. Typically a rifle that averages 1 moa will in fact be 1.5-1.75 moa. A rifle that regularly shoots 1/2 moa groups "if I do my part" will end up being a 0.75-1 moa rifle.
I call bullshit on the 30-06 recoil! You make some valid points,but you really sell the '06 short. Also ,not a blade lf grass could be seen moving! Long range is math except for the wind.That's where the big problem comes in for long range shots on game.When it's calm and you and your equipment is capable, then go for it if you want.But I'd much rather hand you a 30-30 witha 2.5 x scope and tell you to get in close and earn your shot! I love long range shooting,but it's for snipers and steel targets not animals that may be just wounded.BTW,if you are capable at 800 yards,so is the 30-06! Good shooting.😊
It’s not about group size, it’s about time of flight. TOF for 7 PRC to 816 yards is about 1 second. .30-06 to 200 yards is under 1/4 second. A game animal can cover a lot of ground in one second. Even one step could be enough to turn a money shot into a long night following a blood trail.
The 30-06 must be shooting tank rounds for that "recoil". I do like your videos and get the point you are making, but that was some big exaggeration lol
Long range hunting requires a hunter to absolutely prove out and validate their ballistic data and practice those shots beforehand. It also requires an accurate rifle and ammunition as stated in the video.
Which is why an ethical hunter wouldn’t couldn’t except by luck..be able to stabilize enough in rough terrain to even attempt an 800 yard shot. I’ve hunted the western states for a very long time and in reality..long shots are difficult at best…without any way to stabilize your rifle except by using your sling.. I’ve elk hunted mostly in western Colorado and lived there for 12 years…we knew where the elk moved and migrated…there were very few times where there was any need to shoot more that 350 plus yards because brush and vegetation wouldn’t give you much more than that or the rolling sage brush hills where you could cut around and use those hills as an advantage. On top on that…get the elk moving during rifle season..the elk aren’t gonna just stand there because they’re nervous..with many eyes watching..and if you’ve never seen elk get to moving..it’s a full on panic!! Yeah..well…there’s many a times I assure you that many of the “Long Shots” weren’t as long as told. Fact
@@BusterBibb I'm a little north of you in NW Wyoming so I know exactly what you're saying. A friend of mine busted a nice bull at 750 yards with his 7 RemMag... clean shot, clean kill. But the conditions were right and he was well practiced and prepared for that shot. That's what it takes but the overwhelming majority of hunters are not practiced and prepared for long range shots and don't consider that conditions can void all of your preparations. That's why your first statement, "an ethical hunter" is all important because even someone who is a long range shooting champion will not risk a shot on an animal if the conditions bring any doubt into the shot. And I agree, elk might not look like they are running fast, but those looooong legs are covering ground like a dragster.
You bet elk can move…before the massive winter kill in northwest CO during 2007-08…we would drive the county roads after the hunting season. The elk were bunched up so massively they’d have eyes watching in every direction. Which they do. It’s amazing how genetically that’s instilled into the elks habits but good God… the cows would bed facing in every direction..and if any cow would alert the herd..you can bet it was 9-0!!! I knowledge hunters have no clue as to the get out of dodge panic would create a basic free for all exit!! Sure during the rut hulls tend to ease down they escape mode. But seeing a herd run from one draw to snother draw just to having to exit that draw as well…tongues out and frantic. A crumble of bodies…and a dude is gonna be able to single out a bull if he’s got a bull tag?? And shot long range.,?? Nope!! Sadly…the Colorado Dept of Wildlife continues to exaggerate elk numbers and after the massive..massive winter kill of 22-23…(The DOW continues to say there are over 300,000 elk still in CO..bullshit!! We know it’s a lie!) the elk hunting in NW CO will be a long time in recovery on top of what the winter kill was for antelope and deer!! I’m a convert of 7mm RemMag and the 300 WinMag. And have been for many years. Though I’ve taken most of my animals using 270 Win and 30-06..I wouldn’t dare use those two on a true long range shot. But!! You have what you have with you hunting. Just practice shooting positions over and over snd then some more. Know the chambering. One of the best tools to have while hunting is a decent range finder. More so than all the bells and whistles on a scope. Know the cartridge but know the range. A non complicated scope that has great optics and holds zero is good enough..but todays range finders in my view are indispensable in long range shooting. Considering a kill zone on elk…a range finder will quickly give you all the info for a clean ethical kill. Peace
30-06 isn't the best round for long range, but the "sniper style" 7 Prc loaded with the same weight projo is in the same ball park as the 06 ballistically ? Is the 7 Prc more economical because it burns less powder than the 06, Yes. Is it more accurate at long range with custom handloads fired out of a sniper style rifle, No.
My number with the 7prc vs an 06 . An 06 with a 185 gn bullet will drop 30 Moa and drift approximately 80 inches in a 10 mph wind . A 7 prc with a 175 will drop approximately 24 Moa and drift 55 inches .
@@elevationrifles If you compare factory loaded rounds in the same weight range the numbers aren't that far apart, especially using projos with close G1 and velocity. 06 also feeds better and has hardly any recoil.(Sorry, couldn't resist :~) The 06 has ammo availability and cost in it's favor. The 7SAUM has it's place, but it's far from superior to the 06. I enjoy watching your videos, but will agree to disagree.
You’ve got to understand…don’t you understand that in todays money driven shooting world that everything must be tactical.?? Because you know..but this type of or any combination of rifle/scope/ammo/bipod/every bell and whistle gizmo and PRESTO!!! You be a razor sharp sniper reddy fur acchin!!! It’s hilarious if it weren’t so stupid that so many want to believe they’ll be the next great combat sniper..,!!! Yeah baby!! Yes…please I hope that term finally goes away…sickening!!
What??!! You think with that performance that you’re flinging sniper grade accuracy..??…??? Come on maaaan…you shot off a bench….snd that qualifies as sniper accuracy?? We live atound a really twisted “Burger King” entitled generation…for sure!
@@BusterBibb My thoughts exactly lol I shoot the same groups whether I’m prone in the field or from a bench . My two jug challenge videos proved that :) Infact I hit more from the prone position:)
An ethical shot,good shot placement puts meat in the freezer.The ethical is subjective as to distance, terrain and weather.Good shot placement is via practice and precision,without one or the other, meat in the freezer is hard to come by. Keep up the good work, as an old guy who has hunted for 60 years it is refreshing to see a fellow from your generation taking part in our mutual endeavor. Canada has some great hunting opportunities, come on up and enjoy.
But…wait!! 800 yard shots…in the western states terrain?? Trying to make a point off of a bench..??..?? Why didn’t the dude show his s#%+ by trying to hit a target at 800 IN A REAL HUNTING POSITION IN THE COLD WIND RAIN CHANGING TERRAIN OVER THAT 800 yards with hilly dips producing crosswinds that can’t be factored into?? THAT!! is why the ignorance of anyone trying to take a 800 yards shot at any animal is downright grounds for an ass besting..!! The longest shot I believe I’ve ever taken was on a mule deer hunt in Nevada in the 1986. There were 3 of us together snd we spotted a herd of deer across those western Nevada high rolling hills. Spittingvscope..I had a large boulder I was able to stabilize on and we all guessed about 600+ yards…I set up with the crosshairs resting about 2.5 feet using our knowledge of deer anatomy knowledge above the bucks back..and squeezed the trigger. Somehow though my windage was spit on..my elevation was off and I hit the deer squarely on the deers leg where it’s jointed what you csn call it’s knee….that deer was more like 800 plus yards and I spent the next hour working my way towards the deer as the herd kept moving away from us. It was a sickening feeling having to work my way to that deer as it tried using only 3 legs. Stupidity plus and I’ve taken many many animals in my hunting years ..sheep/deer/antelope/elk/boar…and that experience never happened ever again!! 800 yard shots…ill responsible and just plain wrong man!! And I’m experienced!! Stop encouraging stupidity.
FYI…yes…I/we finally dropped the deer..got a clear shot 50 yards-ish because that’s the shot I was able to get because of dips and gullies/hill rises… Now you may ask..why didn’t we work our way up closer before the first shot..well..you’re right!! Except the deer were in a side of a sage brush hill snd there were a lot of drop offs and dips/rises/etc..yup..should have. But “I Thought” it was a doable shot…we were/are very experienced hunters (The two companions have since passed on though they weren’t that old when they passed)and we practiced shooting our hunting rifles..a lot!! Practiced not on a shooting bench though we did bench test a whole lot as well. Bottom line..we had to drag that deer a hellava long ways because of arrogance on our part. But it never happened again though we/I’ve taken a lot of animals since.
@@elevationrifles Nice. Thank you. Velocity? I tried H1000 with 180 Berger VLDs in 3 of my 7PRCs and got mediocre speeds compared to Retumbo. I need to try VVN570, 568, 565, and LRT again. Can't remember my speed but my 7PRC with a 25" #5 Brux 8 twist put shot after shot into one hole with 180 Berger VLDs and LRT powder - somewhere around 77-78 grains if I recall correctly.
Great video. It's refreshing listening to you because you sound so clear and your ideas and thoughts are well articulated. No "ums" and "ahs" as you gather your thoughts.
I was luck to have found Elevation Rifles and Matt with his wonderful invention the Bottle Rest. I live in England, yes it is expensive to have the Bottle Rest shipped to the UK, but it is worth every penny because it works. I am of the age were I know when I have carried half a beach bag full of sand to the firing point. Now I have the Bottle Rest in my range bag and don't notice the weight of the Bottle Rest. Quit complaining of the expense of shipping, if you want the best then pay for it. You spend a load of money on your rifle and associate gear just think how much accuracy is worth to you, then pay for it. If you want get some buddies to share the cost of shipping with them.
I get the jest of the video. However, the over zealous act of the recoil of the 30-06 is comical. I started shooting the old 30-06 when I was 12 years old. That is what I grew up with. Now days, I'd rather shoot my 6.5 Creedmoor Tikka CTR, if shooting long range. Bigger cartridges work fine for long range, if you can handle them, or they are set up optimally. Don't lose subscribers because you are over dramatizing situations. The reason I started watching your videos is because you keep it fairly honest and simple. Explaining things well, and proving your point. I can't stand that idiot backfire, and your first videos kind of called that idiot out. He thinks a moa rifle is a myth, why he has any subscribers is beyond me. Don't be that guy, or you may lose some subscribers. Those that know from experience choose who to watch. As with any of these videos and channels, prove to me what you say is true, and I'll subscribe to your channel. Start feeding me bullcrap, and I'm walking.
I get why u think I might exaggerated recoil but I in no way tried to add a single thing it happened naturally and that’s why I did it the Same every time. I press the trigger slowly and it surprises me when it goes off.
You may not think so, but the second muzzle lift is all you. Playing it in .25x You can clearly see the recoil into your shoulder, the muzzle rises 2-3", comes down, then almost a full second later the muzzle rises over a foot. It's not possible for the recoil of the cartridge going off to raise the muzzle twice. The most charitable explanation is that you were off balance three times in a row and about fell backwards, which would cause you to lift your right arm as you go backwards. It doesn't look like you were that off balance, but... charitable explanation.
Your bagged up long range shooting was pretty good. But holyjeepers never seen anyone fake recoil before. As a guy who hunts an uncompensated, 06' that's sub 7.5lbs with scope, sling and bipod attached, and regularly shoots 180's that was just the weirdest thing I've ever seen. Also this NRA fuddlore squeeze slowly, don't ever know when the rifles going off nonsense needs to die. It is a technique that literally only works bagged to the max on static targets. If you're going to be shooting offhand you need to know when your gun is going off so it fires when it's aimed at your target, not somewhere adjacent to it. You can shoot good groups without a bunch of gear, but you need to be practicing trigger control, i.e. controlling when the gun goes off without pulling the shot. The gear and the 20 sec trigger squeeze may let you skip some fundamentals, but they won't replace them.
There's a few holes in your theory....1 is the size of your targets....2 is realistic hunting conditions, now if you try to shoot a Springbuck or a oryx at 800+ yards you have one shot not 3 so a group doesn't translate to where you hit the vitals of a animal...fact is... at the cost of wounding a animal and paying for it ,you will rack up a huge bill and go home with no trophy or meat and a bank balance way in the minus... sharpen your hunting skills, outsmart the animals and get close!!!
One thing I don’t see here is any mention of bullets at a giving distance. I am not an expert but not all bullets will expand correctly once they fall below a given velocity. This means out at long distances the velocity falls down to a point that the bullet wont expand and do it’s job to create a kill shot but only a wound or a prolonged agonizing death. This is also a part of the ethical hunt. Clean kills. Whenever I hear the word judge or judgment it’s usually coming from someone doing something questionable. My opinion is worth what you’re paying for it but there’s to me there’s hunting and then there’s shooting. I feel it’s important and that we owe it to the animals we pursue to make clean one shot kills. If you can do that at 800 bravo, not many can. Some is the limitations of the equipment, some is buck fever and some is just trying to do something we’re not really able to do. Shooting from a bench at steel is one thing, in the field over a log or prone on the ground at an animal that is unpredictable at to how long it will be in a given place etc. is totally another. Happy hunting all.
I do cold bore all the time and seldom see any difference in impact. The miss most times would be from an incorrect wind call. I did a whole one shot series about that if u have not seen.
Im pretty sure what the exaggerated movement is him staying in the shot until after the gun goes off then picking up the rifle. It is funny looking but I think he is just staying in the shot so to speak.
The problems with long range hunting involve people using inappropriate calibers that don't transfer enough energy at such ranges, bullet flight time that allows for animal movement, and guess work with wind in 'real' hunting scenarios. There are enough !@#$shows posted on youtube that people apparently feel are ethical to indicate it 'is' a problem. The othe problem I have is picking off a cagey mountain muley at 800 yards, after spotting him with crazy effective optics, just takes all his experience at outwitting a hunter out of the picture. It may be cool for whitetails on a field that are plentiful, but game out west is having a hard time. I feel for the big old bucks that are getting sniped. What chance did he have?
No acting go watch my video that I did in response to this. Also I wouldn’t use the only name that saves your soul as a swear word. Thanks for the comment.
What I see on your website is a factory seekins PH2 with average quality Vortex glass, rings, a brake and a case and about $2k in added fees. Also, long range hunting requires ethics very similar to bowhunting. Not everyone can shoot a bow accurately at 80yds and therefore shouldn't. If you're going to take shots at long ranges you should know your capabilities out to those ranges and not exceed them. I can ring steel at a grand pretty regularly but I'm not going to engage an animal at that range.
Video just started. Based on the title, there's no difference in outcome on game. Dead, tag filled, jerky, roasts, steaks, snack stix, summer sausage on the way! I have four 30-06s and four 7PRCs. I am going to rebarrel one of the Tikka 30-06s to a 280AI
I get the point youre trying to make but if you go around faking recoil your group size is probably faked aswell. Even if I could shoot a 1" group at 800yards I would still get closer. Animals is not a steel plate they move.
Then you are inexperienced pilgrim. I have practiced off-hand significantly more than a BENCH REST. for more than half a century. I have plenty of one shot kills "off hand" at yardages from point blank to near 300 yards. More than can remember. A "perfect" rest is great but they way i choose to hunt it just can't work. Can't carry a bench for miles through the brush. And yes.....the exaggerated kick on the 06 was pretty sad. You can clearly see the actual recoil and it doesn't look bad at all. No disrespect meant really. Keep trying. Your a pretty good shot.
If you are setup and capable of shooting game at 800 yards , go for it .If you are setup old school and shoot closer hunting ranges , shoot at closer hunting ranges . What fucking difference does it make , quit bitching and do what makes you happy, nobody lives forever.
Hunting is not being a Sniper. You should try to be as ethical as possible under the circumstances. Animals move and are not stagnant targets. Before shooting you should be stable, as close as possible and using a consistently accurate weapon for the ranges you are shooting. Unless you have the external variable perfectly mapped out 800 yards is farther then most people could hit 50/50 times, so I do believe it is un wise and not exactly ethical lol. Too many variables at those ranges for hunting under most circumstances.
Listen Apples to Oranges ..... Different rifles shoot different , different ammo shoots different. You dont need to explain your self. Do you homie. Good video bad acting though lol
In no way did I try to exaggerate recoil . I get why people are saying I did but the truth is when I slowly press the trigger it surprises me when it fires and that’s just what happened in this position for me. Thats why it looked the same all three shots.
Actual clown shit, i dont disagree with the premise of the video but traditional marksmanship must be dead and rifles dont recoil up 1/2 a second after the shot breaks. Fishing for views.
Its so sad to see the stupidity on the coments if you all cant shoot ethical at extended range keep baiting in what you shoot and dont be jealous of someone that can out shoot you and your beer drinking buddies trying to hunt with a big ole hang over. So please dont try what he can do and you wont learn and practice to improve.
While I appreciate the comparison you are attempting to draw against a precision rifle 7 prc shooting long (816 yards) vs a standard hunting rifle 3006 at 200 yards off a tree.... your testing is FLAUD! Since when can you in a hunting situation shoot off a rested bench??? Get real. You should have gone prone or shot off a tripod for a realistic comparison. Do it over.....and see how those groups perform.
I said something about this in the video, my prone and my bench shooting is no different. I actually have a few videos I did earlier proving that . It was in the jug challenge videos . I actually hit more prone than from the bench go watch em.
The only thing you've proven is anyone can shoot off a bench at distance. Shooting game at distance isn't something you should be trying to prove to your viewers whom most have no business taking that kind of shot. Secondly you mentioned the grass being too high well "poor baby" that's a realistic condition in the field. Lastly show your 3006 some love. You handled that recoil like you never shot it before which is likely the cause for the poor groups for being inexperienced with your weapon.
Really? Worst acting I've seen in ages. Sorry, but after such a terrible acting job and everything else in this video, im unsubscribing from this channel
You are missing a ton of factors in long range shooting. Adrenaline, fatigue, breathing, heart rate, wind calls, shifting wind, angles, bullet flight time, an animal that can move a half step at any time and other variations have an effect on your accuracy. Wind and the animal moving are gonna cause more wounded animals than anything. I could care less how accurate you can be on a bench at 800. I can hit 10 inch steel at 900 with a 16" 308 all day... on a range with a spotter and wind meter. You send anyone, myself included, on a 5-mile hike, put a trophy animal in front of them and i guarantee 80 percent or more won't hit that 10 inch circle on the first shot at 900 with mild variable winds. I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm saying there's too many uncontrollable variables to claim 800 yard shots on animals is ethical. It's an extreme risk unless you have nearly zero wind and have a shooting position just like you do at the range. This can happen, but it's not often.
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That 30-06 recoil looked like something out of a BAD Hollywood movie. 👎
Facts😂😂 dude didn't even act good
The hell was that 30-06 recoil act? The academy award goes to lol
😂 my thoughts exactly!!
Forgot what it felt like to be a man 😁
Took the words right out of my mouth!
What happened with recoil happened naturally. When I press the trigger slowly I don’t know when the gun will fire exactly . This one has much more recoil than any 300 rum I’ve ever done:)
I can hear to say this. Clearly lifting the rifle after it recoiled. I was hoping you were just trying to be funny but judging by your reply here I’d say no. That was a straight up act dude, you can clearly see yourself lifting up the rifle AFTER it actually recoiled. What a tool.
Why the exaggerated rifle lift with the 30-06?
That was the most fake looking recoil act I ever seen.
You GAINED a subscriber tonight! I can’t wait to see the next awful 80’s action moves you have in store for us next time! 🏆 🎥
Awful 80’s actions….????????
You must be of the “Burger King Entitled” generation..!!
Those “Awful” 1970’s-80’s Remington rifles were straight up accurate Don Pardo!! One of the most accurate rifles from that time period was the Remington 600..the most ugliest rifle you could’ve imagined..that was absolutely one of the most accurate out of the box factory rifle ever produced.
But hell..what do I know!! We just learned how to hunt…hardcore much of it. Kind of unique eh? Imagine that!! We leaned “How To” hunt and shoot!!
And we didn’t need to dial in turret settings..we knew our rifles shooting ability inside and out!! So we just went hunting and filled our tags in multiple states season after season after season!!
Eat at Burger King Lately??!! Eh?
I’m actually poking fun at anyone that would scoff at those older Remington rifles. I believe you were jabbing at the dude faking that recoil.
So..nothing personal.
The way you overdramatize the recoil on the 30-06 The best is the delay reaction the gun already recoiled and then you pull it up.😂😂🤡
What you see happen is me slowly pressing the trigger and what happens after is not manipulated in any way:) it just happens at least for me it does.
@@elevationrifles ok 😉😉
@@Pew_pewchronicles I jumped in here to say the same thing...... @elevationrifles I don't agree with a lot of the stuff you say in your videos, but I follow you because there is something to be learned everywhere and I have taken some positive things from your videos, but that over dramatic, poorly executed recoil was embarrassing, bro. You spoke out of both sides of your mouth in your opening comments. This is coming from a long time precision shooter/competitor, long range hunter, professional ammo manufacturer..... do better.
Total clown show. Looked like a misinformed extra in a bad movie
@@russwallis3273 come on Russ tell him don’t be shy ☺️😂
Never seen someone react to recoil so dramatically
Me neither
Could you have exaggerated that recoil any more? lmao
Stoked to be the winner, thanks.
Great video and good information !
Great comparison. What was the additional movement of your head and gun upward after the recoil? It didn’t look right at normal speed and looked even more odd at .25 speed.
At my home range I see two very distinct types of shooters. The 'younger' crowd that basically is there to turn money into noise (it's always the ammo or gun's fault they shoot like crap) and the old heads that are methodical, paced and with purpose. Obvisously, the 'get closer' crowd has never hunted western states where 350 yards and beyond IS close. Thanks for bringing us along!
Ok, first, thank you for the video. This video demonstrates exactly what I have argued many times before. If you stalk in too close, you risk bumping your game and are forced to take a quick shot with what ever rest is available to you, or no rest at all.
I’m definitely not advocating that everyone become a long range hunter, but for those who have put in the time, money and have the ability, longer shots can be done with confidence.
I have yet to take an 800 yard shot on elk, but I’m confident that I can if conditions are right and I can’t get closer.
Lol iv been watching your videos after you came out with the backfire challenge looked your shop up and your like 20 min from me (mercer). Small world lol
Very cool!
I find it annoying when people try to impose their personal ethics upon others and are judgemental about it. The finer details of hunting ethics is a very personal thing and out in the bush regulation comes in the form of self regulation. I agree with your comments that ethical range is highly variable and depends on each individuals training, experience, gear, and technique. Your argument is compelling and well illustrated.
Instability does introduce error at any distance. Distance does introduce risks that are less significant at shorter ranges.
And buck fever ruins everything gosh darn it!
Though it can be irritating to observe people pointing their bony fingers at each other over range ethics in comment sections, I think it is a good sign that a majority of hunters do have a moral compass and do consider ethical practice to be an important part of their hunting experience. Dialogue on the subject is all good even if it is a little cranky at times.
Cheers!
I mean yea a muzzle brake does reduce recoil. I do feel like it was a bit oversell, but either way I enjoyed the video. I love practicing further ranges. also why I purchased a really nice Bergara 300 win mag just for long range accuracy
When you shot the 30-06 back when what kind of groups were you getting then at a hundred yards or a little further
I’m gonna say a little under an moa
It would be interesting to see what the 30-06 could have done prone or from the bench at 200 yards. The group sizes may have been similar from that range as well.
Seriously?? Off the bench you’re suggesting a 30-06 can’t hold tight groups and 5 inch groups are to be expected..from a 30-06…?????
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I don’t have the words to say what sort of response would be expected…but..ARE YOU SERIOUS???
That comment of yours is all that I or any experienced shooter needs to understand that you’ve no clue…you’re clueless of just how accurate a decent acceptable 30-06 setup is. Hell..I had a Marlin 30-30 once with a simple 4x power scope that easily broke into the 4 inch grouping at 200 yards.
30-06’s I set up break into/under 2inches at 200 on a bad day.
Hilarious simply hilarious that there are so many that are so dooped!
I'm not saying all 30-06. Just as some shoot well under moa some shoot well over moa as well. Just saying it would have been interesting to see the results from the bench or prone (a more stable position). The group sizes may have been similar or they may have been much better at that distance given the more stable position.
It was all staged…come on…besides the fact with his bipod setup and bench..that group at the supposed 800 yards..?? Not a chance in hell…besides the fact as to what accuracy could be had in a real hunting scenario.
That group at the “Supposed” 800 yards is hard enough with a hunting rifle let alone trying for a deer antelope etc with no support other than sling or rocks.
There’s not a single 30-06 I own (More than one) that patterns outside of 1 inch with cold barrels and 3 shot groups. Remember..hunting diameter barrels even with magnum barrrls..3 shots are it…not five.
If we had a hunting tag along shooting more than 3 shots at an animal…he’d be sent packing. Fact. We rarely took more than one shot on an animal but there were the occasional 2 shot kills.
Just saying.
@@BusterBibb He was definitely proving a point although I have no reason to doubt he wasn't actually shooting his custom 7prc to 800 yards. I haven't rewatched the video but from what I recall his videos always seemed well done and informative. With a custom rifle, good load development and a good bullet I have no reason to doubt him. I have a custom 25-06ai that will group moa or better to 500 yards (that's as far as I've taken it so far as that is the limit in my backyard range). I'm glad you have multiple 30-06 rifles that are accurate. I actually really like the 30-06 and that will likely be my next rifle. However, if you're relying on the average group size for three round groups I would encourage you to save your targets and overlay the groups on top of each other or better yet take the same targets to the range for your first three shots from each rifle. Once you have 20-30 rounds on the target you will have a statistically valid group and know the true accuracy of your rifle.
You're absolutely correct in saying that hunting rifles(especially with lightweight steel barrels) shouldn't be expected to shoot more than 3 round groups since the barrel will likely be quite warm after that and possibly start throwing the group off. That said, I have found, from my own experience, in multiple rifles that if I rely on the averages of 3 to 5 round groups I get a false sense of the true accuracy of the rifle. If I take those groups and plot them on top of each other or use the same target on multiple days for 20-30 rounds then I get a truer sense of the potential of the rifle. Typically a rifle that averages 1 moa will in fact be 1.5-1.75 moa. A rifle that regularly shoots 1/2 moa groups "if I do my part" will end up being a 0.75-1 moa rifle.
I call bullshit on the 30-06 recoil! You make some valid points,but you really sell the '06 short. Also ,not a blade lf grass could be seen moving! Long range is math except for the wind.That's where the big problem comes in for long range shots on game.When it's calm and you and your equipment is capable, then go for it if you want.But I'd much rather hand you a 30-30 witha 2.5 x scope and tell you to get in close and earn your shot! I love long range shooting,but it's for snipers and steel targets not animals that may be just wounded.BTW,if you are capable at 800 yards,so is the 30-06! Good shooting.😊
Holy crap that 30-06 has more recoil then my 416 Rigby! Way too much recoil for me, I’ll stick with my 300 RUM😵💫
Have tried contacting by email and messenger, but no reply so far. Hoping they came through
Hello sir, unfortunately I have not seen either. Reply here if possible. I should just need an address and I will send em right out. Thanks
it comes down to this.... dont judge others by your skills....
i know hunters that can barely shoot 50y.... and others that have no issue at 600+
Common now, Bud. You know that Ot-6 doesn’t kick that bad. Speaking of exaggeration, what was that excessively long thing on top of your Runner?
It’s not about group size, it’s about time of flight. TOF for 7 PRC to 816 yards is about 1 second. .30-06 to 200 yards is under 1/4 second. A game animal can cover a lot of ground in one second. Even one step could be enough to turn a money shot into a long night following a blood trail.
Gained a follower last week lost a 100 this day.
I'm one of them who will be unsubscribing
That must be one hell off a 30/06 😂😂
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The 30-06 must be shooting tank rounds for that "recoil". I do like your videos and get the point you are making, but that was some big exaggeration lol
Thanks! I didn’t try to exaggerate at all :)
Long range hunting requires a hunter to absolutely prove out and validate their ballistic data and practice those shots beforehand. It also requires an accurate rifle and ammunition as stated in the video.
Which is why an ethical hunter wouldn’t couldn’t except by luck..be able to stabilize enough in rough terrain to even attempt an 800 yard shot.
I’ve hunted the western states for a very long time and in reality..long shots are difficult at best…without any way to stabilize your rifle except by using your sling..
I’ve elk hunted mostly in western Colorado and lived there for 12 years…we knew where the elk moved and migrated…there were very few times where there was any need to shoot more that 350 plus yards because brush and vegetation wouldn’t give you much more than that or the rolling sage brush hills where you could cut around and use those hills as an advantage.
On top on that…get the elk moving during rifle season..the elk aren’t gonna just stand there because they’re nervous..with many eyes watching..and if you’ve never seen elk get to moving..it’s a full on panic!!
Yeah..well…there’s many a times I assure you that many of the “Long Shots” weren’t as long as told.
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@@BusterBibb I'm a little north of you in NW Wyoming so I know exactly what you're saying. A friend of mine busted a nice bull at 750 yards with his 7 RemMag... clean shot, clean kill. But the conditions were right and he was well practiced and prepared for that shot. That's what it takes but the overwhelming majority of hunters are not practiced and prepared for long range shots and don't consider that conditions can void all of your preparations. That's why your first statement, "an ethical hunter" is all important because even someone who is a long range shooting champion will not risk a shot on an animal if the conditions bring any doubt into the shot. And I agree, elk might not look like they are running fast, but those looooong legs are covering ground like a dragster.
You bet elk can move…before the massive winter kill in northwest CO during 2007-08…we would drive the county roads after the hunting season. The elk were bunched up so massively they’d have eyes watching in every direction. Which they do. It’s amazing how genetically that’s instilled into the elks habits but good God… the cows would bed facing in every direction..and if any cow would alert the herd..you can bet it was 9-0!!!
I knowledge hunters have no clue as to the get out of dodge panic would create a basic free for all exit!!
Sure during the rut hulls tend to ease down they escape mode. But seeing a herd run from one draw to snother draw just to having to exit that draw as well…tongues out and frantic. A crumble of bodies…and a dude is gonna be able to single out a bull if he’s got a bull tag?? And shot long range.,?? Nope!!
Sadly…the Colorado Dept of Wildlife continues to exaggerate elk numbers and after the massive..massive winter kill of 22-23…(The DOW continues to say there are over 300,000 elk still in CO..bullshit!! We know it’s a lie!) the elk hunting in NW CO will be a long time in recovery on top of what the winter kill was for antelope and deer!!
I’m a convert of 7mm RemMag and the 300 WinMag. And have been for many years. Though I’ve taken most of my animals using 270 Win and 30-06..I wouldn’t dare use those two on a true long range shot. But!! You have what you have with you hunting. Just practice shooting positions over and over snd then some more. Know the chambering.
One of the best tools to have while hunting is a decent range finder. More so than all the bells and whistles on a scope. Know the cartridge but know the range. A non complicated scope that has great optics and holds zero is good enough..but todays range finders in my view are indispensable in long range shooting. Considering a kill zone on elk…a range finder will quickly give you all the info for a clean ethical kill.
Peace
That “Unknowable Hunters..😁
Time of flight is what stretches the ethical envelope.
Great videos. Keep up the good work!
Im going to give you a chance and keep subscribing only if you do a video explaining why you added the extra bullshit recoil while shooting the 06
I’ll explain in the next video:)
30-06 isn't the best round for long range, but the "sniper style" 7 Prc loaded with the same weight projo is in the same ball park as the 06 ballistically ?
Is the 7 Prc more economical because it burns less powder than the 06, Yes.
Is it more accurate at long range with custom handloads fired out of a sniper style rifle, No.
My number with the 7prc vs an 06 . An 06 with a 185 gn bullet will drop 30 Moa and drift approximately 80 inches in a 10 mph wind . A 7 prc with a 175 will drop approximately 24 Moa and drift 55 inches .
@@elevationrifles If you compare factory loaded rounds in the same weight range the numbers aren't that far apart, especially using projos with close G1 and velocity.
06 also feeds better and has hardly any recoil.(Sorry, couldn't resist :~)
The 06 has ammo availability and cost in it's favor.
The 7SAUM has it's place, but it's far from superior to the 06.
I enjoy watching your videos, but will agree to disagree.
Yeah, that recoil act was way over the top! I am outta here!!
Please STOP using the term sniper style accuracy…
Alrighty if u say so
You’ve got to understand…don’t you understand that in todays money driven shooting world that everything must be tactical.?? Because you know..but this type of or any combination of rifle/scope/ammo/bipod/every bell and whistle gizmo and PRESTO!!! You be a razor sharp sniper reddy fur acchin!!!
It’s hilarious if it weren’t so stupid that so many want to believe they’ll be the next great combat sniper..,!!! Yeah baby!!
Yes…please I hope that term finally goes away…sickening!!
What??!! You think with that performance that you’re flinging sniper grade accuracy..??…???
Come on maaaan…you shot off a bench….snd that qualifies as sniper accuracy??
We live atound a really twisted “Burger King” entitled generation…for sure!
@@BusterBibb My thoughts exactly lol
I shoot the same groups whether I’m prone in the field or from a bench . My two jug challenge videos proved that :) Infact I hit more from the prone position:)
An ethical shot,good shot placement puts meat in the freezer.The ethical is subjective as to distance, terrain and weather.Good shot placement is via practice and precision,without one or the other, meat in the freezer is hard to come by. Keep up the good work, as an old guy who has hunted for 60 years it is refreshing to see a fellow from your generation taking part in our mutual endeavor. Canada has some great hunting opportunities, come on up and enjoy.
But…wait!! 800 yard shots…in the western states terrain?? Trying to make a point off of a bench..??..?? Why didn’t the dude show his s#%+ by trying to hit a target at 800 IN A REAL HUNTING POSITION IN THE COLD WIND RAIN CHANGING TERRAIN OVER THAT 800 yards with hilly dips producing crosswinds that can’t be factored into??
THAT!! is why the ignorance of anyone trying to take a 800 yards shot at any animal is downright grounds for an ass besting..!!
The longest shot I believe I’ve ever taken was on a mule deer hunt in Nevada in the 1986. There were 3 of us together snd we spotted a herd of deer across those western Nevada high rolling hills. Spittingvscope..I had a large boulder I was able to stabilize on and we all guessed about 600+ yards…I set up with the crosshairs resting about 2.5 feet using our knowledge of deer anatomy knowledge above the bucks back..and squeezed the trigger. Somehow though my windage was spit on..my elevation was off and I hit the deer squarely on the deers leg where it’s jointed what you csn call it’s knee….that deer was more like 800 plus yards and I spent the next hour working my way towards the deer as the herd kept moving away from us.
It was a sickening feeling having to work my way to that deer as it tried using only 3 legs. Stupidity plus and I’ve taken many many animals in my hunting years ..sheep/deer/antelope/elk/boar…and that experience never happened ever again!!
800 yard shots…ill responsible and just plain wrong man!! And I’m experienced!!
Stop encouraging stupidity.
FYI…yes…I/we finally dropped the deer..got a clear shot 50 yards-ish because that’s the shot I was able to get because of dips and gullies/hill rises…
Now you may ask..why didn’t we work our way up closer before the first shot..well..you’re right!! Except the deer were in a side of a sage brush hill snd there were a lot of drop offs and dips/rises/etc..yup..should have. But “I Thought” it was a doable shot…we were/are very experienced hunters (The two companions have since passed on though they weren’t that old when they passed)and we practiced shooting our hunting rifles..a lot!! Practiced not on a shooting bench though we did bench test a whole lot as well.
Bottom line..we had to drag that deer a hellava long ways because of arrogance on our part. But it never happened again though we/I’ve taken a lot of animals since.
Nice car
What's the load for that 7?
H1000
175 Eldx
CCI 250 mag primers
@@elevationrifles Nice. Thank you. Velocity? I tried H1000 with 180 Berger VLDs in 3 of my 7PRCs and got mediocre speeds compared to Retumbo. I need to try VVN570, 568, 565, and LRT again. Can't remember my speed but my 7PRC with a 25" #5 Brux 8 twist put shot after shot into one hole with 180 Berger VLDs and LRT powder - somewhere around 77-78 grains if I recall correctly.
Great video. It's refreshing listening to you because you sound so clear and your ideas and thoughts are well articulated. No "ums" and "ahs" as you gather your thoughts.
I was luck to have found Elevation Rifles and Matt with his wonderful invention the Bottle Rest. I live in England, yes it is expensive to have the Bottle Rest shipped to the UK, but it is worth every penny because it works. I am of the age were I know when I have carried half a beach bag full of sand to the firing point. Now I have the Bottle Rest in my range bag and don't notice the weight of the Bottle Rest. Quit complaining of the expense of shipping, if you want the best then pay for it. You spend a load of money on your rifle and associate gear just think how much accuracy is worth to you, then pay for it. If you want get some buddies to share the cost of shipping with them.
Your awesome! Thanks for the support!!
I get the jest of the video. However, the over zealous act of the recoil of the 30-06 is comical. I started shooting the old 30-06 when I was 12 years old. That is what I grew up with. Now days, I'd rather shoot my 6.5 Creedmoor Tikka CTR, if shooting long range. Bigger cartridges work fine for long range, if you can handle them, or they are set up optimally.
Don't lose subscribers because you are over dramatizing situations. The reason I started watching your videos is because you keep it fairly honest and simple. Explaining things well, and proving your point. I can't stand that idiot backfire, and your first videos kind of called that idiot out. He thinks a moa rifle is a myth, why he has any subscribers is beyond me. Don't be that guy, or you may lose some subscribers. Those that know from experience choose who to watch. As with any of these videos and channels, prove to me what you say is true, and I'll subscribe to your channel. Start feeding me bullcrap, and I'm walking.
I get why u think I might exaggerated recoil but I in no way tried to add a single thing it happened naturally and that’s why I did it the Same every time. I press the trigger slowly and it surprises me when it goes off.
You may not think so, but the second muzzle lift is all you. Playing it in .25x You can clearly see the recoil into your shoulder, the muzzle rises 2-3", comes down, then almost a full second later the muzzle rises over a foot. It's not possible for the recoil of the cartridge going off to raise the muzzle twice.
The most charitable explanation is that you were off balance three times in a row and about fell backwards, which would cause you to lift your right arm as you go backwards. It doesn't look like you were that off balance, but... charitable explanation.
The only thing he's missing is a hair bun.
Your bagged up long range shooting was pretty good. But holyjeepers never seen anyone fake recoil before. As a guy who hunts an uncompensated, 06' that's sub 7.5lbs with scope, sling and bipod attached, and regularly shoots 180's that was just the weirdest thing I've ever seen.
Also this NRA fuddlore squeeze slowly, don't ever know when the rifles going off nonsense needs to die. It is a technique that literally only works bagged to the max on static targets. If you're going to be shooting offhand you need to know when your gun is going off so it fires when it's aimed at your target, not somewhere adjacent to it. You can shoot good groups without a bunch of gear, but you need to be practicing trigger control, i.e. controlling when the gun goes off without pulling the shot. The gear and the 20 sec trigger squeeze may let you skip some fundamentals, but they won't replace them.
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There's a few holes in your theory....1 is the size of your targets....2 is realistic hunting conditions, now if you try to shoot a Springbuck or a oryx at 800+ yards you have one shot not 3 so a group doesn't translate to where you hit the vitals of a animal...fact is... at the cost of wounding a animal and paying for it ,you will rack up a huge bill and go home with no trophy or meat and a bank balance way in the minus... sharpen your hunting skills, outsmart the animals and get close!!!
I just subscribed, do another give away 😁
One thing I don’t see here is any mention of bullets at a giving distance. I am not an expert but not all bullets will expand correctly once they fall below a given velocity. This means out at long distances the velocity falls down to a point that the bullet wont expand and do it’s job to create a kill shot but only a wound or a prolonged agonizing death. This is also a part of the ethical hunt. Clean kills. Whenever I hear the word judge or judgment it’s usually coming from someone doing something questionable. My opinion is worth what you’re paying for it but there’s to me there’s hunting and then there’s shooting. I feel it’s important and that we owe it to the animals we pursue to make clean one shot kills. If you can do that at 800 bravo, not many can. Some is the limitations of the equipment, some is buck fever and some is just trying to do something we’re not really able to do. Shooting from a bench at steel is one thing, in the field over a log or prone on the ground at an animal that is unpredictable at to how long it will be in a given place etc. is totally another. Happy hunting all.
Guaranteed if you went out and took 10 cold bore shots on 10 different days at an 8in gong you would miss at least half of them…
I do cold bore all the time and seldom see any difference in impact. The miss most times would be from an incorrect wind call. I did a whole one shot series about that if u have not seen.
@@elevationrifles oh yeah windage isn’t important, I love gut packing my deer and having to track for hours
Im pretty sure what the exaggerated movement is him staying in the shot until after the gun goes off then picking up the rifle. It is funny looking but I think he is just staying in the shot so to speak.
Finally someone with a lil common sense:)
The problems with long range hunting involve people using inappropriate calibers that don't transfer enough energy at such ranges, bullet flight time that allows for animal movement, and guess work with wind in 'real' hunting scenarios. There are enough !@#$shows posted on youtube that people apparently feel are ethical to indicate it 'is' a problem. The othe problem I have is picking off a cagey mountain muley at 800 yards, after spotting him with crazy effective optics, just takes all his experience at outwitting a hunter out of the picture. It may be cool for whitetails on a field that are plentiful, but game out west is having a hard time. I feel for the big old bucks that are getting sniped. What chance did he have?
My .375 H+H recoils less !! 😅😅😅
Nice acting job there Delbert! Jesus who do you think you are kidding?
No acting go watch my video that I did in response to this. Also I wouldn’t use the only name that saves your soul as a swear word. Thanks for the comment.
Yes you were acting! Everyone can see it. Nice try
@@crpp5030 I was the one shooting so I think should know . 😁
What I see on your website is a factory seekins PH2 with average quality Vortex glass, rings, a brake and a case and about $2k in added fees. Also, long range hunting requires ethics very similar to bowhunting. Not everyone can shoot a bow accurately at 80yds and therefore shouldn't. If you're going to take shots at long ranges you should know your capabilities out to those ranges and not exceed them. I can ring steel at a grand pretty regularly but I'm not going to engage an animal at that range.
Video just started. Based on the title, there's no difference in outcome on game. Dead, tag filled, jerky, roasts, steaks, snack stix, summer sausage on the way! I have four 30-06s and four 7PRCs. I am going to rebarrel one of the Tikka 30-06s to a 280AI
That was so weird
Alrighty
I get the point youre trying to make but if you go around faking recoil your group size is probably faked aswell.
Even if I could shoot a 1" group at 800yards I would still get closer. Animals is not a steel plate they move.
I did not fake recoil on this . It just happened on its own . Watch for the next video I’ll explain.
You didn’t help your cause at all. There is so much wrong with this.😂
Then you are inexperienced pilgrim. I have practiced off-hand significantly more than a BENCH REST. for more than half a century. I have plenty of one shot kills "off hand" at yardages from point blank to near 300 yards. More than can remember. A "perfect" rest is great but they way i choose to hunt it just can't work. Can't carry a bench for miles through the brush. And yes.....the exaggerated kick on the 06 was pretty sad. You can clearly see the actual recoil and it doesn't look bad at all. No disrespect meant really. Keep trying. Your a pretty good shot.
Good for you!
If you are setup and capable of shooting game at 800 yards , go for it .If you are setup old school and shoot closer hunting ranges , shoot at closer hunting ranges . What fucking difference does it make , quit bitching and do what makes you happy, nobody lives forever.
Hunting is not being a Sniper. You should try to be as ethical as possible under the circumstances. Animals move and are not stagnant targets. Before shooting you should be stable, as close as possible and using a consistently accurate weapon for the ranges you are shooting. Unless you have the external variable perfectly mapped out 800 yards is farther then most people could hit 50/50 times, so I do believe it is un wise and not exactly ethical lol. Too many variables at those ranges for hunting under most circumstances.
Listen Apples to Oranges ..... Different rifles shoot different , different ammo shoots different. You dont need to explain your self. Do you homie. Good video bad acting though lol
Watched this one video and will never watch again bull crap on that recoil.
Go watch my last one , I address this .
After watching this multiple times to confirm the exaggerated recoil, I'm unsubscribing.
In no way did I try to exaggerate recoil . I get why people are saying I did but the truth is when I slowly press the trigger it surprises me when it fires and that’s just what happened in this position for me. Thats why it looked the same all three shots.
@@elevationrifles if you didn't. Then your a very inexperienced with that rifle.
Actual clown shit, i dont disagree with the premise of the video but traditional marksmanship must be dead and rifles dont recoil up 1/2 a second after the shot breaks. Fishing for views.
Its so sad to see the stupidity on the coments if you all cant shoot ethical at extended range keep baiting in what you shoot and dont be jealous of someone that can out shoot you and your beer drinking buddies trying to hunt with a big ole hang over. So please dont try what he can do and you wont learn and practice to improve.
You just lost a subscriber with that bull shit. NOBODY reacts to recoil that way. Keep pushing that poor mans 28 Nosler though.
Give me a break. No more of this. I unsubscribe.
Definitely wont be subscribing to this channel, stick with the 30/06
Good idea sir.
While I appreciate the comparison you are attempting to draw against a precision rifle 7 prc shooting long (816 yards) vs a standard hunting rifle 3006 at 200 yards off a tree.... your testing is FLAUD! Since when can you in a hunting situation shoot off a rested bench??? Get real. You should have gone prone or shot off a tripod for a realistic comparison. Do it over.....and see how those groups perform.
I said something about this in the video, my prone and my bench shooting is no different. I actually have a few videos I did earlier proving that . It was in the jug challenge videos . I actually hit more prone than from the bench go watch em.
The only thing you've proven is anyone can shoot off a bench at distance. Shooting game at distance isn't something you should be trying to prove to your viewers whom most have no business taking that kind of shot. Secondly you mentioned the grass being too high well "poor baby" that's a realistic condition in the field. Lastly show your 3006 some love. You handled that recoil like you never shot it before which is likely the cause for the poor groups for being inexperienced with your weapon.
Really? Worst acting I've seen in ages.
Sorry, but after such a terrible acting job and everything else in this video, im unsubscribing from this channel
No act what you see happened without trying to act even one percent:)
You are missing a ton of factors in long range shooting. Adrenaline, fatigue, breathing, heart rate, wind calls, shifting wind, angles, bullet flight time, an animal that can move a half step at any time and other variations have an effect on your accuracy. Wind and the animal moving are gonna cause more wounded animals than anything. I could care less how accurate you can be on a bench at 800. I can hit 10 inch steel at 900 with a 16" 308 all day... on a range with a spotter and wind meter. You send anyone, myself included, on a 5-mile hike, put a trophy animal in front of them and i guarantee 80 percent or more won't hit that 10 inch circle on the first shot at 900 with mild variable winds. I'm not saying it can't be done, I'm saying there's too many uncontrollable variables to claim 800 yard shots on animals is ethical. It's an extreme risk unless you have nearly zero wind and have a shooting position just like you do at the range. This can happen, but it's not often.