Zach would a selectable ratchet mechanism option be possible to aid in climbing inclines? I’m thinking calling it “Sport Mode” 😉 Like some crocodile plastic footware
@@NewMobilityMediaone thing i want to point out.. jerryrigeverything is not usually known for diy.. its known for giving every smartphone a nightmare..
Basically medical niche-ness/ markup of having to get fda and other medical certifications. This is why this "not a wheelchair". It keeps the cost low because it doesn't need to get certified, because medical certifications are a scam for the most part. Also it's made by a nonprofit so they're essentially selling it at cost instead of 300% markup
More than likely economies of scale come into play. The market for wheelchairs will be a fraction that of bicycles so production prices will be higher.
Something needs to be done about prices in the US medical sector being artificially driven up by the private health insurance industry. Thank you for helping to make these necessary devices more affordable Zach. It seems ridiculous to me that a bicycle, which uses a similar amount and type of materials (and is arguably more complex in its mechanics) can cost a few hundred dollars in the US, but most wheelchairs cost several thousand.
@@brycedunlap yeah but I was thinking those are specific brands with carbon frames, hydraulic brakes and shifters and carbon wheels and most have some sort of motorized assist. the average bike for a beginner or someone who isn't into trail riding or racing is around $500 and most fall below that price. I was just surprised by the price of some of the basic chairs coming from bigger manufacturers. kinda like Giant or Schwinn charging 2k for their Walmart line if bikes.
VERY detailed review - i have a good friend who has been looking for one. Inexpensive and light, maybe not perfect but im gonna send her this video. Thank you
This dude deserves all the likes he can get, I can only imagine the PIA! That making this video on his own was... With camera placing make sure angles were right going up and down those hills... Jesus! I'm already tired.
Why did you send me this RUclips? What do you know?!! Of course I’m a fan of Zack’s. Good to see he’s doing right by the community he’s trying to help.
In Germany I found wheelchairs starting at 100€. When prescribed health insurance covers the full price but 10€. I don't know how fancy the prescribed wheelchair model will be though.
Was also going to say this. I'm familiar with wheelchair pricing and I don't know how this could be considered "super cheap" but maybe I can be enlightened
I think custom wheelchairs are for more active individuals, so perhaps that's the reason. I suppose you can't customize a 350 dollar wheelchair like this
@@GenesisRTA Custom manual wheelchairs are 3500-6000 for typical models. This is not the same as wheelchairs in the $150 - 300 range. Those are "hospital" wheelchairs - made generally for folks to be pushed by an assistant. They are generally very heavy. Custom manual wheelchairs are aluminum or if you spend a lot of money, titanium to cut down on the weight.
Those wheelchairs are for general use in like hospital settings. They're not for the individual who will be using a custom fit wheelchair every day of their life. It would be an awful experience for them to use one of those generic wheelchairs.
those wheelchairs are not for long term independent use. they are primarily designed to be "transport chairs" and restrict independent mobility and increase risk of repetitive stress injuries, etc. long term users require custom wheelchairs that accommodate healthy biomechanics and unique anatomy, etc. those chairs also are not designed to last and be repaired. they are under HCPCS codes k0001-0004. this wheelchair is not competing with $300 wheelchairs, but with $2000-6000 wheelchairs under HCPCS code k0005.
Is there a reason it does not have armrests? I need armrests for transfers and standing temporarily, so I think I would struggle to use this. But a $1000 wheelchair is absolutely insane
When you realise that they claim to produce the cheapest wheelchairs in America. I literally don't know how people with just average income even survive there
@@alok.01 the answer is that people often don't :/ a lot of people become bankrupt from medical bills and then homeless from becoming disabled, and then they suffer and eventually die unless they get lucky and get into the very small amount of accessible affordable housing (something like 2% of housing in the US is wheelchair accessible, and only some of that is affordable), or get financial help from someone (often moving into abusive relationships to secure housing), or figure out some other way to survive (ex. sex work, selling meds, getting the cheapest possible room in a house of a ton of people and asking around for money to keep affording it or doing whatever work they can manage) ive seen people get creative and use abandoned grocery carts as mobility aids, hack micromobility scooters and add trailers to em, or put pillows on hospital chairs to make them as tolerable as possible but its very very damaging on the body (pressure sores from improper mobility ait fit can be life threatening). i dont have much money myself but ive had to help people i know afford crutches and stuff like that (when they really need a wheelchair but crutches are like $200 vs $2,000 minimum), i have a bit more than enough money for survival and i had to mostly lie in bed for like a year while figuring out getting a wheelchair for myself, which is terrifying bc you lie there knowing if the house caught fire you might just have to like, lie there and die lol it's absolutely violent how the US treats disabled people but that's what you get when you found a country on killing Indigenous people and creating a new government with laws to only benefit rich, white, land-owning straight men who are abled enough to wield power over others. this country was built to be for a specific subset of people and if that's not you, youre getting screwed in some way or another
I have worked on a wheelchair design off and on for years and really appreciate the solutions the inventor has designed into this chair. It's brilliant!
This is incorrect. Hospital style wheelchairs in the uk cost £150. This is an active wheelchair, whose base price start at around £2500 and you can expect to pay a total of around £5000 if you’re stingey with your choices
What do you mean it’s an odd name, they are technically legs… and if it was a medical device they would tax you to infinity… so the name makes perfect sense…🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
OK, I am fully mobile, so maybe I don't get it, but can't understand how $1000 for a wheel chair is considered "cheap", for that amount of money you can buy a very good bicycle and a bicycle is a LOT more complex than a wheelchair, lots more parts, more intricate parts, a wheel chair is just some bent metal tubing with maybe a few scissor type folding joints and 2 wheels attached, HTF can they be so damn expensive?? Talk about getting royally screwed.
I shit you not. I can probably get the same-spec wheelchair in my country for 250€. And they want 1K from it? I enjoy watching JRE but the price is abit steep for any wheelchair consumer. 1k for some aluminium-based 1 seater? If it was fully carbon then i would understand.
Well as you can see this is united states, famous for their health care system. Everything is expensive there. And I was not surprised to know that this market in USA is really lucrative and a 999$ is considered cheap there
Production costs, salary and taxes and so on. USA is the biggest economy, and you as a customer of this economy - pay for all expenses, which are high whether you like it or not. Move the facility somewhere with cheap labour, and smaller economy with smaller taxes - here you have it, 160 base price.
WTH, $999 for a wheelchair, isn't that expensive for a thing which doesn't have many sophisticated tech or much moving parts. I can literally buy a bike at that price here in India. Am I missing something or saying anything wrong?
Tech is mostly wires and chips if you think about it. It’s more crazy how we can allow tech to be overpriced and not question it. I’m thinking of car screens and lights.
Thanks for coming by! It was awesome meeting you!
W Jerry! Lots of blessings to you and your family 🙏
Great to meet you as well! Love the chair and what you all are trying to do!
Thanks for having us!
Zach would a selectable ratchet mechanism option be possible to aid in climbing inclines? I’m thinking calling it “Sport Mode” 😉
Like some crocodile plastic footware
@@NewMobilityMediaone thing i want to point out.. jerryrigeverything is not usually known for diy.. its known for giving every smartphone a nightmare..
Im here because im interested in the quality of zacks products. Jerryrig brought me here
I thought to myself "why is Tony Hawk in a wheelchair?!" for a good 20 seconds there
Now I can't unsee it..
@@geogmz8277 Me neither 🤣🤣
Lmfao
I still don't understand how a bike with complex suspensions and gears can be half the price of a wheelchair with a seat and 2 wheels?
Different use cases calls for different structures of the materials. Bikes don't have people sitting in them for majority of the day for one
Basically medical niche-ness/ markup of having to get fda and other medical certifications. This is why this "not a wheelchair". It keeps the cost low because it doesn't need to get certified, because medical certifications are a scam for the most part. Also it's made by a nonprofit so they're essentially selling it at cost instead of 300% markup
@@ru2225yes... Yes they do. It's called a bike ride. And they can last many hours, sometimes weeks of doing a tour.
So that. Makes no sense
@@RyanShielscool now transfer from a bike to a toilet without touching the ground or getting stuck in a door. I'll wait.
More than likely economies of scale come into play. The market for wheelchairs will be a fraction that of bicycles so production prices will be higher.
Something needs to be done about prices in the US medical sector being artificially driven up by the private health insurance industry.
Thank you for helping to make these necessary devices more affordable Zach.
It seems ridiculous to me that a bicycle, which uses a similar amount and type of materials (and is arguably more complex in its mechanics) can cost a few hundred dollars in the US, but most wheelchairs cost several thousand.
I mean you could just elect a person who implements universal healthcare
I mean you could just elect a person who implements universal healthcare
thats crazy. i would not have guessed how expensive wheelchairs are . i assumed no more than the average bicycle.
Accessibility is a lucrative market, unfortunately.
Decent bikes are thousands of dollars these days.
@@brycedunlap But those have more components right? Gears, disk brakes, shock absorbers etc
@@brycedunlap yeah but I was thinking those are specific brands with carbon frames, hydraulic brakes and shifters and carbon wheels and most have some sort of motorized assist. the average bike for a beginner or someone who isn't into trail riding or racing is around $500 and most fall below that price.
I was just surprised by the price of some of the basic chairs coming from bigger manufacturers. kinda like Giant or Schwinn charging 2k for their Walmart line if bikes.
Average bicycle cost more lol
VERY detailed review - i have a good friend who has been looking for one. Inexpensive and light, maybe not perfect but im gonna send her this video. Thank you
This dude deserves all the likes he can get, I can only imagine the PIA! That making this video on his own was... With camera placing make sure angles were right going up and down those hills... Jesus! I'm already tired.
True😂😂
Why did you send me this RUclips? What do you know?!!
Of course I’m a fan of Zack’s. Good to see he’s doing right by the community he’s trying to help.
2:15 Bender Rodriguez's great great great grandfather 😅
😂 yeah 👍
Fr 😂
The only thing I see missing for me is an anti-tip option. I frequently slap on a heavy backpack and need anti tip so I don't pitch backwards.
In Germany I found wheelchairs starting at 100€.
When prescribed health insurance covers the full price but 10€. I don't know how fancy the prescribed wheelchair model will be though.
This is huge, excellent review!
>$1k wheelchair
>Cheap for a wheelchair
Hell...
Your average regular wheelchair is like 5k. A custom wheelchair made specifically for the user is well above that.
That's like a 90% discount off a regular chairs cost
As someone who doesn't use a wheelchair, what sets this apart from many of the wheelchairs for sale in the $150-300 range?
Was also going to say this. I'm familiar with wheelchair pricing and I don't know how this could be considered "super cheap" but maybe I can be enlightened
I think custom wheelchairs are for more active individuals, so perhaps that's the reason. I suppose you can't customize a 350 dollar wheelchair like this
@@GenesisRTA Custom manual wheelchairs are 3500-6000 for typical models. This is not the same as wheelchairs in the $150 - 300 range. Those are "hospital" wheelchairs - made generally for folks to be pushed by an assistant. They are generally very heavy. Custom manual wheelchairs are aluminum or if you spend a lot of money, titanium to cut down on the weight.
Those wheelchairs are for general use in like hospital settings. They're not for the individual who will be using a custom fit wheelchair every day of their life. It would be an awful experience for them to use one of those generic wheelchairs.
those wheelchairs are not for long term independent use. they are primarily designed to be "transport chairs" and restrict independent mobility and increase risk of repetitive stress injuries, etc. long term users require custom wheelchairs that accommodate healthy biomechanics and unique anatomy, etc. those chairs also are not designed to last and be repaired. they are under HCPCS codes k0001-0004. this wheelchair is not competing with $300 wheelchairs, but with $2000-6000 wheelchairs under HCPCS code k0005.
Awesome work you're doing man
I want one ❤❤❤
Great review
Have you tried out a Motion Composites Apex by chance that you could compare this to?
Is there a reason it does not have armrests? I need armrests for transfers and standing temporarily, so I think I would struggle to use this. But a $1000 wheelchair is absolutely insane
When you realise that they claim to produce the cheapest wheelchairs in America. I literally don't know how people with just average income even survive there
@@alok.01 the answer is that people often don't :/
a lot of people become bankrupt from medical bills and then homeless from becoming disabled, and then they suffer and eventually die unless they get lucky and get into the very small amount of accessible affordable housing (something like 2% of housing in the US is wheelchair accessible, and only some of that is affordable), or get financial help from someone (often moving into abusive relationships to secure housing), or figure out some other way to survive (ex. sex work, selling meds, getting the cheapest possible room in a house of a ton of people and asking around for money to keep affording it or doing whatever work they can manage)
ive seen people get creative and use abandoned grocery carts as mobility aids, hack micromobility scooters and add trailers to em, or put pillows on hospital chairs to make them as tolerable as possible but its very very damaging on the body (pressure sores from improper mobility ait fit can be life threatening). i dont have much money myself but ive had to help people i know afford crutches and stuff like that (when they really need a wheelchair but crutches are like $200 vs $2,000 minimum), i have a bit more than enough money for survival and i had to mostly lie in bed for like a year while figuring out getting a wheelchair for myself, which is terrifying bc you lie there knowing if the house caught fire you might just have to like, lie there and die lol
it's absolutely violent how the US treats disabled people but that's what you get when you found a country on killing Indigenous people and creating a new government with laws to only benefit rich, white, land-owning straight men who are abled enough to wield power over others. this country was built to be for a specific subset of people and if that's not you, youre getting screwed in some way or another
I have worked on a wheelchair design off and on for years and really appreciate the solutions the inventor has designed into this chair. It's brilliant!
I thought this was Linus for a sec.
That’s CHEAP? Goodness that is unbelievable
Everything medical just gets an insane markup it seems
If i ever need a wheel chair ill be sure to check this out
Wheelchairs in the UK are average $150. Here’s hoping the US can catch up with our lower medical costs!
This is incorrect. Hospital style wheelchairs in the uk cost £150. This is an active wheelchair, whose base price start at around £2500 and you can expect to pay a total of around £5000 if you’re stingey with your choices
What do you mean it’s an odd name, they are technically legs… and if it was a medical device they would tax you to infinity… so the name makes perfect sense…🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
4:20 OMG! That made me so scared. What if he fell and broke his back?! He would need double "Not a Wheelchairs".
Dont use a weelchair but very interesting
👌
OK, I am fully mobile, so maybe I don't get it, but can't understand how $1000 for a wheel chair is considered "cheap", for that amount of money you can buy a very good bicycle and a bicycle is a LOT more complex than a wheelchair, lots more parts, more intricate parts, a wheel chair is just some bent metal tubing with maybe a few scissor type folding joints and 2 wheels attached, HTF can they be so damn expensive?? Talk about getting royally screwed.
production quantities. Way more people buy bikes compared to wheelchairs.
When I first time my wheelchair my casting Wheels came off
looks great $1000 is R18000 in our money, thats 5months rent. lol.
Whats your point?
@@mitchellsteindler That it looks great, $1000 is R18000 in his money, that's 5 months rent for him.
Wheel chairs would be less expensive in your country then since labour is cheaper compared to the US where $1000 is less than average salary per month
@@ayoni02 you'd think that they would be cheaper here hey lol they actually much more expensive, i meant this chair was relatively cheap.
I shit you not. I can probably get the same-spec wheelchair in my country for 250€. And they want 1K from it? I enjoy watching JRE but the price is abit steep for any wheelchair consumer.
1k for some aluminium-based 1 seater? If it was fully carbon then i would understand.
Что за цены такие? Из золота и бриллиантов сделано? 160$ самого начального уровня, на следующий день привезут, доставка 0 руб.
Well as you can see this is united states, famous for their health care system. Everything is expensive there. And I was not surprised to know that this market in USA is really lucrative and a 999$ is considered cheap there
Production costs, salary and taxes and so on. USA is the biggest economy, and you as a customer of this economy - pay for all expenses, which are high whether you like it or not.
Move the facility somewhere with cheap labour, and smaller economy with smaller taxes - here you have it, 160 base price.
WTH, $999 for a wheelchair, isn't that expensive for a thing which doesn't have many sophisticated tech or much moving parts. I can literally buy a bike at that price here in India. Am I missing something or saying anything wrong?
Tech is mostly wires and chips if you think about it. It’s more crazy how we can allow tech to be overpriced and not question it. I’m thinking of car screens and lights.
Not really a 1K wheelchair, with everything almost 4K.