I'm kinda sad that Toriyama simplified the armor design for Saiyans in Super. Miss the vibrant, distinct colors in Z era. (Not that time when they drew every saiyan in the exact same outfit as Raditz because he was the only saiyan design at the moment lmao)
Personally, I liked the old non-standard design for the Sayian armor. I liked to think that since the Sayians are a warrior race, they produced their own custom armor that was personalized for each individual warrior, instead of being equipped with standard armor made in one of Frieza's factories like the rest of the Frieza Force. And, the armor was made with special materials so that the stretchy armor wouldn't be flattened to the floor by the immense gravity every time a Sayian took off their armor and put it down.
@Urban Youth I mean, a saiyan fighting for the right thing makes them an outcast among their race. But I agree, Super Bardock seems too heroic, compared to Z which was a twisted, battle hungry saiyan like the rest, only made up for by his final stand against Frieza.
@@FC_mania Well we don't know that, the Bardock we see in Super It seems to me a more tired bardock and with more weight on his back... And is not heroic, there is a why he is doing that. Looks like he is very tired of things. And starting seeing live in other way... Thats better writted bardock here.
@@lonewolf9578 yes his getting power to see the future made total sense and not a plot contrivance whereas Super Bardock had to figure out and work through Frieza plot by empirical evidence and observation
@@superthorc6894 What do you mean work it out? In Minus, he just has a hunch and is somehow the only Saiyan to figure out Frieza was going to kill them all. How convenient. In Z, he was cursed with random visions of the future that would show his planets doomed fate so he could suffer just like the people of Planet Kanassa did when his squad killed them. That's far more believable than some random hunch he got in Minus as it actually explains why only he knew of Frieza's plans and no one else.
@@thegungerbrospodcast7671 so you specific pick only minus and judge that complete story eve though there was more to it then that and there was as the story been developed instead, instead of actually focusing on the 15 page in minus, look at the full story. Also no it wasn't it was a plot device that force Bardock into more a reactionary role
My mate pitched gine was what changed bardock, which actually kinda fit, in z their relationship is more work while super she's given more time around bardock and have an effect on him. Know it isn't perfect but I like this as an explanation in universe
@@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 implied gine was just a random Saiyan bardock had a couple kids with which likely the case with low cast Saiyans, only in new material she's actually a character now
@@Normandy1998 I really don't like what they did with Gine in Super as they just made her a goody goody who sits in the Kitchen all day and hates fighting which is the total opposite of how a Saiyan should behave. It makes even less sense when you read the Saiyan arc and Raditz is appalled at the idea of a good-hearted Saiyan despite his Mom being exactly that. The original makes more sense honestly as the Saiyans blast their children off to different planets that they want to conquer so it makes sense for them to carry little to no feelings for their offspring. We didn't need to see Goku's mom as she has no contribution to story at hand.
Z-Bardock slaps. He has character and his look made him. He went through a horde of Freezas henchmen. He knew Freeza was out of his league and still tried his best to save the Saiyans. Even when he went Super Saiyan he still wrecked. Bardock-Super….imo felt like a movie on Hallmark Channel.
Bardock never gets Super Saiyan in that movie.... Only in fan OVAS. And that "He went through a horde of Freezas henchmen" he does that on the brolly movie, but summarized.
You literally see that super bardock does the same through freeza's troops here. I don't see anything bad about bardock meeting gine and caring about her or Goku.
He really should have thought it through...now that I think about it. In fact there is a RUclipsr that did a comic dun on how the Bardock special tied into the Broly movie.
Tbh,Z Bardock is my favorite character in dragon ball,the way that he’s such a tragic character,knowing his fate and the fate of all the saiyans but still trying to stop it really resonated with me, hope they could try to fit it in Super
I still kinda prefer Z Bardock. He really showed that the Saiyans were not good people and were to put it mildly, dicks but he was a badass. I think changing Bardock to be more soft and marketable was a mistake.
DBZ has a lot of spin off potential. Like why not a mini series of Bardock’s Youth and early squad days with the rise of the Cold Empire? Or a continuation of where Bardock gets sent back in time?
Which one is my favorite? Well one had a small movie dedicated to him to show he was almost as bad as most other saiyans and yet was someone special who tried to save his world while being haunted by the vision of its destruction and still died in peace thanks to the vision of his son facing the tyrant responsible for all of this… The other is an unnecessary retcon from a much better movie who’s only quality was the touching scene where he sent of his son Superman style… oh and he had a wife which was a much more needed addition than his retcon cameo. My vote goes to the OG but people can prefer the new one.
I mean we have more source material for z bardock so he has a leg up but what I like most about him is how he reacted to his crew dying. That said it makes even more sense considering the granola arc and how super portrayed him as being of a different mind from other sayians. I like z more but super was dope too
Well what’s really different was that the DBS Bardock actually gave a shit about Goku, DBZ bardock regardless gave 0 shits about him, and judged him bc of his power level. Despite him having feelings for his comrades.
Bardock from Z technically achieved the SSJ Form which eventually led to Frieza’s knowledge about said form in the original timeline, and the bandana and the fact that he was a more menacing character in the Z series, making him my all-time favorite Dragon Ball character with Future Trunks (DBZ) in second 😎👍
Damn they need to animate Moro and Granolah arc DBS season 2 already! 😮Incorporating SSJ4 Gogeta becoming canon and more Broly!! (He’s my favorite character)! 🤯 Also a really great idea (IMO) would be to bring Bardock back alive somehow and have him as a side character helping occasionally! It would entertain millions of fans around the world, it’s the best anime (the entire series) in the world, make them millions of dollars, and some of the best work they have ever done! 😡😤
Imagine that bardock and his crew actually made an escape right before the planet blew up and he’s actually just lost in space or on a planet with broken down ships
You should watch people like Carthu’s Dojo and Salad Saiyan as they do Dragon Ball What-If’s theorizing what would happen with small changes to the series 😎👍
I'm a huge Metal Gear fan so Z Bardock's design is far superior with his bandana imo. Also the more vibrant colors of his armor was cooler than his Super counterpart, in Super he just looks like a Goku like saiyan, kinda disappointing.
I actually kind of have a theory on why they're different that I'm in the process of developing, if I remember correctly in the Bardock movie his visions only showed him Goku's battle with Frieza as far as like the furthest battle at that point. But what if he only saw that battle and not cell or anyone else because Goku died, what if the original bardack was from the future trunks timeline, when Frieza hit him with the death beam he was sent to the main timeline far in the past and his actions they're altered time just enough so that events changed creating the newer Bardock from Super. I know the theory has a lot of holes but I just thought it was neat and I haven't done the research to flesh it out yet
I’d say Z strictly because of the design but I do like Super Bardocks story a little bit more because it gave a little bit more lore in my opinion to who Goku’s parents was
I prefer Z Bardock’s Design and His Alternate version in Heroes and Xenoverse, but I like Super Bardock because for me he is slightly more fleshed out as a character
They're completely different! The OG Bardock from DBZ is much more serious, violent, blood-thirsty and he is a "typical Saiyan" that doesn't know his family outside of fighting alongside them on missions. 'Super Bardock' knows his family and is a good guy...and is actually 'Lower Class' whereas DBZ version is closer to 'Elite-Class' you can tell by their conversation. Oh yeah did I mention one is a brilliant scientist? The other is just a soldier.
Ever since seeing DBS Bardock, I've started seeing DBZ Bardock's story as something of a broad strokes situation with how it ties with his Super incarnation.
Let's also not forget, Z Bardock is literally in the manga (Ch307 in particular), albeit the special came out before he chapter he's in bro is still 100% in the canon source material
i ignore any of the minus shit, i accept a composite history of the og bardock movie with the new broly history in it...i should edit that film together 🤔
bardock wasn't different from the saiyans but when he is different when he is with gine and when kakarot was born he saved him by sending him to earth the z bardock was different but he actually knew that frieza was planning on destroying the saiyans because dodoria killed his squad and when he spared dodoria and went straight to planet vegeta he had his foresight ability and when went to check on kakarot they told him he was already sent to earth and the moment he died alongside the planet vegeta was the same moment that gohan found kakarot
Hate to break it to ya, but the Bardock DLC is just a retelling of the original movie where he made his debut, which is a damn shame in my honest opinion; I was hoping for a blend of the 2 stories in one cohesive narrative.
I like super bardock. At least in the movie it showed him and gone putting goku into the space pod sending him away to a safe place BEFORE freiza blew up the planet. In z, it didn’t show bardock do any of that.
Because he didn't in dbz. The reason Goku went to Earth was the conquer it as saiyans sent babies with weak power levels to conquer weaker planets. They just retconned it to a Jor' El situation
@@romallohenry no the reason he was sent there was because bardock knew that freiza was up to something and sent kakarot to earth just to make sure that he would be safe.
@@doomguy26 Like I said it was retconned. When the OG Bardock came back Goku was ready off the planet. The new Bardock pulled off a Superman escape plan for his kid since the other was already off planet
Honestly, i like Z bardock alot more. Hes more coldblooded, like any other saiyan, had some really badass armor, and i feel his design also felt more rugged, as it should. Super bardock... he feels rather bland, and trying to make him “good” was a huge mistake, no matter what he does, he will always be part of a bloodthirsty, battle hungry, cold blooded warrior race.
Same here. Z Bardock is NOT a nice guy nor a good father. He's a cold-blooded genocider of planets and doesn't give two shits about it. It says alot about Saiyan society in relation to the low-class warriors in how he acts. He never really gave a shit about his kids until he saw in one vision that Goku would fight Frieza in the future. And yet he's a badass and why people like him in spite of all that. That's why I feel their direction to change him so he's more of a "good guy" who isn't like the rest is bothersome cause he isn't. He still killed people and sold their planets off to the highest bidder. It also kinda makes Goku into someone "special" when his whole thing before that was that he was a low-class warrior just like everyone else but through hard work and training got to where he is by the end of Z.
I like Z bardock only cause in the end he realized what the saiyan race had become and also cause in his last moments he saw gokus whole future flash before his eyes and that makes his death at the hands of freiza more powerful knowing that his son a low born saiyan will avenge his race.
Can dbs bardock from grnola flauback be compared to like ginyu? Because elec states gas has the most potential of surpassing frieza and they only know of first form frieza from namek saga menaing gas is close to that level before he gets the widh and its not loke the heaters train or grow overtime snd bardock beat the primal instincts gas.
I actually kinda prefer super bardock. It makes Goku’s journey more thematic. I love the idea that bardock sent him off world because of Freeza. In a way, Freeza sort of caused the super saiyan to appear. I find that more appealing than “random saiyan gets sent to random planet and eventually becomes a super saiyan.”
Definitely Dbs bardock. I feel like the reason I absolutely love both Is that one, DBZ bardock only has that one special but it's nostalgic so I absolutely love it. And two, Dbs is more favored because not only does he have a manga version of the DBZ bardock, he also has more in depth character conversations, like in the granolah arc and him briefly talking to gine about saving kakarot
I just dont like that they're implying that Bardock was a good person actually. Saving Goku, saving granola and wishing for his sons to thrive. It implies that Goku is a good person because of his parents which is not really the case, he hit his head. I dont understand why chnage stuff for the sake of changing it. In the Broly movie they decided to send goku off plane wearing saiyan armor...why?? Makes no sense, he shows up on earth naked and the armor was never once mentioned or shown. Goku wa snaled in the incubator, did Bardock dress his son before sending him off??
I’m absolutely confused by the people who think bardock being a better person morally and being a bit more heroic in Super makes no sense “cause he’s a saiyan” HES GOKU’S DAD?! Like goku is a saiyan but he isn’t murderous like even Vegeta changed(you can see it in his manga appearance/flashback in the gas/Grahnola arc as he questions himself why he feels the need to save them). He’s built to be naturally kinder because he’s the father of the most pure hearted character(the devil man beam evidence). If they made him just as murdery it would have been fine but he’s now a badass slightly morally responsible guy. He feels like he’s actually related to goku, because in my opinion the aggression and murder energy he has in the bardock special makes him feel a Little disconnected from goku(even in the super manga he’s still killed a lot of people but when he sees a child in danger he feels guilt probably cause he is a parent himself). Super bardock’s morality makes him feel closer to his son in many more ways, to me aggressive bardock is only goku’s father because he looks like him and the story says so, DBS Bardock feels like goku’s father TL:DR cause it’s long Him being nicer isnt bad and makes him feel more like goku’s dad in my opinion.
Original Z bardock was badass . Would have just established that The blue and yellow uniform was him In his younger years and the green and blue was him in his final years . I don't think that bardock ( broly ) Version had the fish people give him the Curse of precognition.
Toriyama: “Bardock and his movie are my most fav stuff from DBZ that I didn’t create” Also Toriyama: “I now have the urge to change things for literally no reason.”
Like many other "xeno" characters from sdbh, xeno bardock is a Version of Bardock from an alternate timeline where he survived due to the intervention of time travellers, in this case it was Mira and towa who changed his fate and then turned him to the masked saiyan, after he was freed from his control, he joined the time Partol and that's how xeno bardock came to be
I'm kinda sad that Toriyama simplified the armor design for Saiyans in Super. Miss the vibrant, distinct colors in Z era. (Not that time when they drew every saiyan in the exact same outfit as Raditz because he was the only saiyan design at the moment lmao)
Personally, I liked the old non-standard design for the Sayian armor. I liked to think that since the Sayians are a warrior race, they produced their own custom armor that was personalized for each individual warrior, instead of being equipped with standard armor made in one of Frieza's factories like the rest of the Frieza Force. And, the armor was made with special materials so that the stretchy armor wouldn't be flattened to the floor by the immense gravity every time a Sayian took off their armor and put it down.
@Refrigerated Films Yeah. Just like how he forced scouters on them
@@basedimperialism
Well those designs are from the movie only, Toriyama wasn't on the designs and the writting, that movie is not canon. The brolly movie is Canon.
Don’t forget the classic headband
I miss the bandana
The biggest loss imo. The biohazard scab bandana 🔥
thank you sure these bardocks may have similarities but the bandana was such a crucial point in bardocks story and they just removed that
Maybe he still has it he just didn't have it on in the film
Me too
@@SaladSaiyan and he lost his future sight that's massive nerf
Original Bardock special is some of the best dbz content ever made.
Facts
I agreee
Frieza's slaves: you should have been here Bardock 😂
Bardock: yes i should have been 😡 put bandana on is head
And Starts to kick ass
I just pray that the Granolah arc gets animated.
It really did Bardock justice, while his appearance helps influence Goku’s arc too.
it will just because money
@Urban Youth I mean, a saiyan fighting for the right thing makes them an outcast among their race.
But I agree, Super Bardock seems too heroic, compared to Z which was a twisted, battle hungry saiyan like the rest, only made up for by his final stand against Frieza.
@@FC_mania Well we don't know that, the Bardock we see in Super It seems to me a more tired bardock and with more weight on his back... And is not heroic, there is a why he is doing that. Looks like he is very tired of things. And starting seeing live in other way... Thats better writted bardock here.
moro arc is the next one to be animated, in 2023
@@Hernok1985 woke, most people don't like super bardock because he is "softer"
I like Z Bardock More Cuz that Man Is Badass As hell and He Got The full Drip.
Not to mention his arc makes sense, whereas super/minus Bardock has him going to fight frieza because… reasons
@@lonewolf9578 yes his getting power to see the future made total sense and not a plot contrivance whereas Super Bardock had to figure out and work through Frieza plot by empirical evidence and observation
@@superthorc6894 exactly lol
@@superthorc6894 What do you mean work it out? In Minus, he just has a hunch and is somehow the only Saiyan to figure out Frieza was going to kill them all. How convenient.
In Z, he was cursed with random visions of the future that would show his planets doomed fate so he could suffer just like the people of Planet Kanassa did when his squad killed them. That's far more believable than some random hunch he got in Minus as it actually explains why only he knew of Frieza's plans and no one else.
@@thegungerbrospodcast7671 so you specific pick only minus and judge that complete story eve though there was more to it then that and there was as the story been developed instead, instead of actually focusing on the 15 page in minus, look at the full story.
Also no it wasn't it was a plot device that force Bardock into more a reactionary role
My mate pitched gine was what changed bardock, which actually kinda fit, in z their relationship is more work while super she's given more time around bardock and have an effect on him. Know it isn't perfect but I like this as an explanation in universe
Fasha isn’t gine btw
Gine wasn’t in Z. Are you mistaking Fasha for Gine?
@@geekforeverpixelgamingsurl5007 implied gine was just a random Saiyan bardock had a couple kids with which likely the case with low cast Saiyans, only in new material she's actually a character now
@@Normandy1998 I really don't like what they did with Gine in Super as they just made her a goody goody who sits in the Kitchen all day and hates fighting which is the total opposite of how a Saiyan should behave. It makes even less sense when you read the Saiyan arc and Raditz is appalled at the idea of a good-hearted Saiyan despite his Mom being exactly that.
The original makes more sense honestly as the Saiyans blast their children off to different planets that they want to conquer so it makes sense for them to carry little to no feelings for their offspring. We didn't need to see Goku's mom as she has no contribution to story at hand.
There is a big mistake a lot of people doesn't know... Gine is not on the Bardock movie, that is Seripa or Fasha.
I love this short. Its crazy cause I had no idea that Bardocks crew was technically in Dragon Ball Super Broly. Id like to see more shorts like these.
Gotta admit, I miss the bloodstained bandana.
Z-Bardock slaps. He has character and his look made him. He went through a horde of Freezas henchmen. He knew Freeza was out of his league and still tried his best to save the Saiyans. Even when he went Super Saiyan he still wrecked. Bardock-Super….imo felt like a movie on Hallmark Channel.
Bardock never gets Super Saiyan in that movie.... Only in fan OVAS. And that "He went through a horde of Freezas henchmen" he does that on the brolly movie, but summarized.
@@Hernok1985 z bardock was still dripped out doe. Also the super Saiyan only added to it.
@@Hernok1985 Bardock turned Ssj in Chilled's OVA
What is bro babbling about.
You literally see that super bardock does the same through freeza's troops here.
I don't see anything bad about bardock meeting gine and caring about her or Goku.
Toriyama made the "Bardock" situation weird and confusing
He really should have thought it through...now that I think about it. In fact there is a RUclipsr that did a comic dun on how the Bardock special tied into the Broly movie.
DBS ruined the original sayan history for a shitty superman copy
Tbh,Z Bardock is my favorite character in dragon ball,the way that he’s such a tragic character,knowing his fate and the fate of all the saiyans but still trying to stop it really resonated with me, hope they could try to fit it in Super
YES EXACTLY! The soldiers in the backround show the context of Z Bardock being attacked and damaged
They summarise there final of the Bardock movie.
Z bardock. In the movies he was the epitome of a one man army
I still kinda prefer Z Bardock. He really showed that the Saiyans were not good people and were to put it mildly, dicks but he was a badass.
I think changing Bardock to be more soft and marketable was a mistake.
Agreed
True
how was he soft?
@@TheMegaGamingWizard he cares about goku
@@Kyeafbre meh that’s not really soft
I'd say they both work in different ways.
DBZ has a lot of spin off potential. Like why not a mini series of Bardock’s Youth and early squad days with the rise of the Cold Empire? Or a continuation of where Bardock gets sent back in time?
Which one is my favorite?
Well one had a small movie dedicated to him to show he was almost as bad as most other saiyans and yet was someone special who tried to save his world while being haunted by the vision of its destruction and still died in peace thanks to the vision of his son facing the tyrant responsible for all of this…
The other is an unnecessary retcon from a much better movie who’s only quality was the touching scene where he sent of his son Superman style… oh and he had a wife which was a much more needed addition than his retcon cameo.
My vote goes to the OG but people can prefer the new one.
I like the one with the bandannas Design more
Hopefully we get another bardock movie
I mean we have more source material for z bardock so he has a leg up but what I like most about him is how he reacted to his crew dying. That said it makes even more sense considering the granola arc and how super portrayed him as being of a different mind from other sayians. I like z more but super was dope too
Well what’s really different was that the DBS Bardock actually gave a shit about Goku, DBZ bardock regardless gave 0 shits about him, and judged him bc of his power level. Despite him having feelings for his comrades.
Bardock from Z technically achieved the SSJ Form which eventually led to Frieza’s knowledge about said form in the original timeline, and the bandana and the fact that he was a more menacing character in the Z series, making him my all-time favorite Dragon Ball character with Future Trunks (DBZ) in second 😎👍
The reason the bandana is red cuz it's from all the blood of his dead friends
Salad you gotta team up with me one day
Damn they need to animate Moro and Granolah arc DBS season 2 already! 😮Incorporating SSJ4 Gogeta becoming canon and more Broly!! (He’s my favorite character)! 🤯 Also a really great idea (IMO) would be to bring Bardock back alive somehow and have him as a side character helping occasionally! It would entertain millions of fans around the world, it’s the best anime (the entire series) in the world, make them millions of dollars, and some of the best work they have ever done! 😡😤
He was still a brilliant scientist in both versions
Imagine that bardock and his crew actually made an escape right before the planet blew up and he’s actually just lost in space or on a planet with broken down ships
But we litteraly see him evaporate
@@Pandnn216 I know still cool though
You should watch people like Carthu’s Dojo and Salad Saiyan as they do Dragon Ball What-If’s theorizing what would happen with small changes to the series 😎👍
The red bandana is what gets me.
I'm a huge Metal Gear fan so Z Bardock's design is far superior with his bandana imo.
Also the more vibrant colors of his armor was cooler than his Super counterpart, in Super he just looks like a Goku like saiyan, kinda disappointing.
That's a pre-established trait of low class saiyans they look goku like
OK so Z bardock looks like vegeta right
If in the DLC our boy Chadtiz is not mencioned I'm gonna be angry
He isn’t mentioned at all in the DLC, as someone who bought the DLC on First-Day Release cuz of my obsession with DBZ: Kakarot, I would know 😢
Old Bardock was a true lower rank gladiator warrior meanwhile they gave him the average stock Saiyan dog gear
I actually kind of have a theory on why they're different that I'm in the process of developing, if I remember correctly in the Bardock movie his visions only showed him Goku's battle with Frieza as far as like the furthest battle at that point. But what if he only saw that battle and not cell or anyone else because Goku died, what if the original bardack was from the future trunks timeline, when Frieza hit him with the death beam he was sent to the main timeline far in the past and his actions they're altered time just enough so that events changed creating the newer Bardock from Super. I know the theory has a lot of holes but I just thought it was neat and I haven't done the research to flesh it out yet
I wish the dbz bardock was canon instead of dbs😭. Z bardock had a much better story and i loved the fore sight
I’d say Z strictly because of the design but I do like Super Bardocks story a little bit more because it gave a little bit more lore in my opinion to who Goku’s parents was
I prefer Z Bardock’s Design and His Alternate version in Heroes and Xenoverse, but I like Super Bardock because for me he is slightly more fleshed out as a character
I hope the 2023 anime for dbs is a spin off series about bardock and his missions
I do miss the head band and the armour i love the old saiyan armour and the armour goku had during the time chamber with gohan
I'm surprised Bardock didn't have his iconic red headband
They're completely different! The OG Bardock from DBZ is much more serious, violent, blood-thirsty and he is a "typical Saiyan" that doesn't know his family outside of fighting alongside them on missions. 'Super Bardock' knows his family and is a good guy...and is actually 'Lower Class' whereas DBZ version is closer to 'Elite-Class' you can tell by their conversation.
Oh yeah did I mention one is a brilliant scientist? The other is just a soldier.
I would love to see a a combo of there cloths.
I like z bardock better but I can find myself enjoying super bardock and I think I have the points to get them to blend together
@Urban Youth that's why, because if he wasn't Vegeta would have had at least a little more respect to raditz and Goku
@Urban Youth if bardock stood out more Vegeta should have more respect for Goku and raditz
@Urban Youth hmm maybe
I actually didn't know his Squad appeared in DBS Manga Format!
Ohhhhhhh thats cool! I never knew Bardock's crew was actually in DBS Broly 😅
Ever since seeing DBS Bardock, I've started seeing DBZ Bardock's story as something of a broad strokes situation with how it ties with his Super incarnation.
Honestly a 3 hour broly movie would be fire
i don't mind the armor design i just wish it was still green and he still had the headband, seriously why remove one of his most defining features
When dbs comes back I hope they start with dbs broly as an arc and give us more bardock
I like both. I also think certain aspects happen. It's just that Minus or Tori bardock went through a Vegeta arc at some point.
And that's fine by me.
New bardock with old bardock colors and bandana
Let's also not forget, Z Bardock is literally in the manga (Ch307 in particular), albeit the special came out before he chapter he's in
bro is still 100% in the canon source material
Wait there's gonna be more Kakarot DLC?
The pause makes the loop worse
Litrary the same character with just more lore I don't know what are these on thinking they are diff just because of a armor
What I'm mad abt is how skinny they made Fascha like where her muscles at ☠️
i ignore any of the minus shit, i accept a composite history of the og bardock movie with the new broly history in it...i should edit that film together 🤔
I like the Z Bardock because of his attire and Super Bardock because of his personality.
It feels like your voice needs to be slowed down. You talk like you’re rapping.
Wait they are different people I thought that was just a flashback reanimated
bardock wasn't different from the saiyans but when he is different when he is with gine and when kakarot was born he saved him by sending him to earth
the z bardock was different but he actually knew that frieza was planning on destroying the saiyans because dodoria killed his squad and when he spared dodoria and went straight to planet vegeta he had his foresight ability and when went to check on kakarot they told him he was already sent to earth and the moment he died alongside the planet vegeta was the same moment that gohan found kakarot
No one will ever take away that moment from the Bardock in DBZ , however, the Bardock in DBS will be a better development than the original 🙌🏼
Hate to break it to ya, but the Bardock DLC is just a retelling of the original movie where he made his debut, which is a damn shame in my honest opinion; I was hoping for a blend of the 2 stories in one cohesive narrative.
Is it true Bardock is weaker in Super or is he equal or stronger to his Z counterpart before the film Z Bardock went Super Saiyan
Super the suit is just 🔥🔥🔥
I like super bardock. At least in the movie it showed him and gone putting goku into the space pod sending him away to a safe place BEFORE freiza blew up the planet. In z, it didn’t show bardock do any of that.
Because he didn't in dbz. The reason Goku went to Earth was the conquer it as saiyans sent babies with weak power levels to conquer weaker planets. They just retconned it to a Jor' El situation
@@romallohenry no the reason he was sent there was because bardock knew that freiza was up to something and sent kakarot to earth just to make sure that he would be safe.
@@doomguy26 Like I said it was retconned. When the OG Bardock came back Goku was ready off the planet. The new Bardock pulled off a Superman escape plan for his kid since the other was already off planet
DBZ Bardock design is the best
Honestly, i like Z bardock alot more. Hes more coldblooded, like any other saiyan, had some really badass armor, and i feel his design also felt more rugged, as it should.
Super bardock... he feels rather bland, and trying to make him “good” was a huge mistake, no matter what he does, he will always be part of a bloodthirsty, battle hungry, cold blooded warrior race.
Same here. Z Bardock is NOT a nice guy nor a good father. He's a cold-blooded genocider of planets and doesn't give two shits about it. It says alot about Saiyan society in relation to the low-class warriors in how he acts. He never really gave a shit about his kids until he saw in one vision that Goku would fight Frieza in the future.
And yet he's a badass and why people like him in spite of all that. That's why I feel their direction to change him so he's more of a "good guy" who isn't like the rest is bothersome cause he isn't. He still killed people and sold their planets off to the highest bidder. It also kinda makes Goku into someone "special" when his whole thing before that was that he was a low-class warrior just like everyone else but through hard work and training got to where he is by the end of Z.
I don't think I can pick one version over the other, Bardock is an odd uncanny valley of a saiyan. I do miss the bandanna though
Z bardock is peak design red head band red hand cuffs and that saiyan armor 👌
I like Z bardock only cause in the end he realized what the saiyan race had become and also cause in his last moments he saw gokus whole future flash before his eyes and that makes his death at the hands of freiza more powerful knowing that his son a low born saiyan will avenge his race.
Bardock movie?
can yall stop editing weird outros to sound like a loop pls, it drives me wild
I'm annoyed they swapped his cool unique armor for the lame ass basic armor.
Can dbs bardock from grnola flauback be compared to like ginyu? Because elec states gas has the most potential of surpassing frieza and they only know of first form frieza from namek saga menaing gas is close to that level before he gets the widh and its not loke the heaters train or grow overtime snd bardock beat the primal instincts gas.
My favourite is definitely Z bardock he was more badass
I actually kinda prefer super bardock. It makes Goku’s journey more thematic. I love the idea that bardock sent him off world because of Freeza. In a way, Freeza sort of caused the super saiyan to appear. I find that more appealing than “random saiyan gets sent to random planet and eventually becomes a super saiyan.”
Idk why he went back and "fixed" it. It was fine the way it was
Definitely Dbs bardock. I feel like the reason I absolutely love both Is that one, DBZ bardock only has that one special but it's nostalgic so I absolutely love it. And two, Dbs is more favored because not only does he have a manga version of the DBZ bardock, he also has more in depth character conversations, like in the granolah arc and him briefly talking to gine about saving kakarot
DBS Bardock is my favorite. He’s actually kind and cared about his family and is the one who saved Granolah
I just dont like that they're implying that Bardock was a good person actually. Saving Goku, saving granola and wishing for his sons to thrive. It implies that Goku is a good person because of his parents which is not really the case, he hit his head. I dont understand why chnage stuff for the sake of changing it. In the Broly movie they decided to send goku off plane wearing saiyan armor...why?? Makes no sense, he shows up on earth naked and the armor was never once mentioned or shown. Goku wa snaled in the incubator, did Bardock dress his son before sending him off??
The Super Bardock is okay,But Z Bardock is still my favorite & brough back Childhood memories,so both are okay 👌
I’m absolutely confused by the people who think bardock being a better person morally and being a bit more heroic in Super makes no sense “cause he’s a saiyan” HES GOKU’S DAD?! Like goku is a saiyan but he isn’t murderous like even Vegeta changed(you can see it in his manga appearance/flashback in the gas/Grahnola arc as he questions himself why he feels the need to save them). He’s built to be naturally kinder because he’s the father of the most pure hearted character(the devil man beam evidence). If they made him just as murdery it would have been fine but he’s now a badass slightly morally responsible guy. He feels like he’s actually related to goku, because in my opinion the aggression and murder energy he has in the bardock special makes him feel a Little disconnected from goku(even in the super manga he’s still killed a lot of people but when he sees a child in danger he feels guilt probably cause he is a parent himself). Super bardock’s morality makes him feel closer to his son in many more ways, to me aggressive bardock is only goku’s father because he looks like him and the story says so, DBS Bardock feels like goku’s father
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Him being nicer isnt bad and makes him feel more like goku’s dad in my opinion.
Dbs Bardock and Dbz Bardock are literally same characters, so what's the point in comparing them?
Original Z bardock was badass .
Would have just established that
The blue and yellow uniform was him
In his younger years and the green and blue was him in his final years .
I don't think that bardock ( broly )
Version had the fish people give him the
Curse of precognition.
maybe in dbs broly since he was already battle damaged the fight with gas happened before this
z bardock chad vs super bardock virgin
But can he see the future?
Man i wish dbs bardock had the bandana
I feel like theu should have kept the older colors
Z, he was like di kakarrot we didn't get
Both of them are my favorite
What if bardock had a twin 🤔
Personally I like Z Bardock a million times more
soooooo we're gonna ignore the fact that Z Bardock appeared in the original manga?
Toriyama: “Bardock and his movie are my most fav stuff from DBZ that I didn’t create”
Also Toriyama: “I now have the urge to change things for literally no reason.”
What about xeno bardock in sdbh
Like many other "xeno" characters from sdbh, xeno bardock is a Version of Bardock from an alternate timeline where he survived due to the intervention of time travellers, in this case it was Mira and towa who changed his fate and then turned him to the masked saiyan, after he was freed from his control, he joined the time Partol and that's how xeno bardock came to be
It kinda bothers me how the games still see Z Bardock as canon
I kinda like both versions of Bardock equally to be honest.
Bardock was a scientist in z
Dbs ruined sayan history for a shitty superman copy
Original Bardock is my favorite due to more time with him and he looks way cooler. Lol