Hard to believe this movie is 50 years old. Saw this joint when it came out at The Nixon Theater West Philly. This is when gang war was at its peak. I was 11 years old and can relate to this scene.
Same, for all the the years I've been listening to Ironman I only thought of looking up the film today! Downloading it as we speak 😁 There are also clips from the 90s anime Crying Freeman on "Assassination Day", which I have seen, and apparently another 70s film called JD's Revenge on "Wildflower", I need to watch that one too.
Same. No idea for years, then one day it comes up on my feed. I fully intend to watch many films from this era. If ya'll got some suggestions I would really appreciate it.
I grew in fort green as well, my apartment overlooked the monument. must have walked a million times through that park. Brings back a shit load of memories.
NYC was renown for that. Probably the only cities on the planet that came close were São Paulo and Naples (Italy). All three cities were essentially defined by gang activity.
@@MacMac1313 You're right. I should have included LA. I guess realistically all major metro areas across the world have had the same problem. They just aren't as notorious to us perhaps.
No videogames, no online porn, always out and yeah the parents back then weren't great either. They just make it seem like parents were. In fact back then more parents were cheating and doing drugs
😂😂😂most cats didn't even know he was talking about General Hospital in the 70s. Soap opera. Always love that line. 90s hip hop has some of the most quotable verses of all time. I can't name no era that has more. Not even 80s hip hop
Yeah, that Luke and Laura shit was deep. General Hospital shit. Luke was on the run for years lol, him and Laura was running from everybody: mobsters, the law, debters...@TheDumontShow
Nope, them trademarks were from a time that wasn’t stupid enough for selfies. Stupid in its own way, but never did they imagine how soft and ill informed people would become.
The initiation scene was filmed in Fort Greene in Brooklyn at the Prison Ship Martyrs Monument. The monument was built to honor the deaths of over 10K colonial citizens who died in British captivity after they were captured during (or after) the Battle of Long Island. The environment in the park eventually "was tough" for local residents in the 1970s and 1980s, was full of graffiti, and suffered through "...some of the worst years of the crack era..." until it got cleaned up in the 2000s.
I lived right near that park when I moved to Brooklyn (S. Oxford bet DeKalb and Lafayette). It was tough, no doubt, but anyone calling it a "shithole" is broadcasting who and what they are.
I mean, the term shithole is subjective. People call NYC a shithole entirely. Fort Greene was defined by violent crime and the crack epidemic for years. Born and raised in Brooklyn and patrolled South Baghdad. If you asked me to pick 1990s Fort Greene or 2006 Baghdad, I'm picking Baghdad 10/10 because at least I'd be armed. Sorry you're offended but the rocks of reality can be jagged. It's better now but history says it has a violent and criminal past. Can't sugarcoat that part, sorry.
@@ProspectFilmRoom Interesting that you'd be afraid in Fort Greene Park as a grown man. I was there as a kid 13/14 in some of the worst years of the crack era without a gun or anything else. Again, you reveal who and what you are by your statements.
@@JoaquinTazabi Listen, I get the fact that you're offended somebody insulted your old neighborhood, but I never said all of Fort Greene was shitty...just the park which is 100000 percent true. You also kinda self-owned yourself by denying it was a shithole then somehow bragging about you being brave enough to walk the streets as a teenager during a crack epidemic. That is, unless you truly think a crack epidemic simply makes a neighborhood "tough" instead of shitty. Nobody can rewrite Fort Greene's history, even those who lived there. And now it's gentrified as fuck with multi-million--dollar brownstones, so how do you like them apples?
Sonny had on a choker underneath his button down. His outfit was fly. Not to mention the fact that he pulled up to the mill to get jumped in rocking a cardigan! Obviously no one informed him of the appropriate dress code for such an event. Peace to Akbar. He was a serious cat. Rest in power.
This is at the beginning of a punk album I just bought. The band is called Zondar & now that I'm seeing it, I remember watching this movie as a little kid. Full Circle 🤘🏾😎
Wow, that kid reminds me of Darius McCray aka Eddie Winslow from family matters. But he wasn't even born yet... This movie came out in 1974 and he wasn't born until 1976.
The actor who superbly played the young Sonny Carson is named Thomas Hicks. The only credits he has on imdb ("Thomas Hicks (I)") are this and a directing credit from 2009 for a video called "Unicycle Film." "Two unicyclists join together and fall in love in a forest." Okay, WTF? I have so many questions.
Just clicked on this because instantly recognised the title as the sample on a Ghostface track from 28 years ago - never had a clue where the sample was from... it's just been in my head all this time...
It's poignant scenes like this, even if there's some floundering in the acting, that really inspire me to write. I love the young man's posture, his cigarette-eaten voice, and the viciousness sitting behind his eyes. I eat this stuff up!!!!
thats corny every ethnicity had gangsters. all those that immigrated here has had them,. the Italian maifa was big back in these days irish mafia in boston etc. it aint JUST US
It's also stupid af that black fraternities have "jumped in" pledges. College students are supposed to be our social elite, and some of them have chosen to engage in that foul behavior.
Fuckin sexy the way the bus scolls in and dude jumps off the back as his intro! Also, this dude reeeealy wanted to be in that gang goin through that old mill. he got heart tho
I remember as a kid, my uncle's were Lord's... They had the flyest jackets, Black and Gold... Blue and white when they were out of town... 518 stand up!!! 💪😎
As soon as I would have seen that “Old Mill” gauntlet line, I would have been like, “Uuuhhh…Yeah, I was just bullshittin’! I’m good. What I gotta do to be a Gangsta Desciple, cause sheeeeiiitt!?”.
Dude's entrance was raw.
Jumping off the bumper of the bus with a cigarette behind his ear. Damn.
He Was Bad DUDE MAN...😂
And he in the hood on some Kanye drip WAAAAAY before _College Dropout_ A true G😂
I always thought kids who smoked were trying too hard to look cool. It was usually scrawny little dudes who did it.
This comment got me rolling lol I had to go back lol
Warwick is known worldwide.
For those that simply want the name of the movie, it's The Education of Sonny Carson.
Took me a good two minutes lol
MISEDUCATION
Thanks
You legend you
Cheers ❤
A Duh and it’s Miseducation
..glad my pops was there when I was young!.. love you dad!🙏🏿
Young dude fronted the whole crew with no fear in his heart. They can see that he's a future boss.
Only in the movie
Speak for yourself
@@javantigoodwin7719 Stfu. That didn't even make sense.
Brooklyn breeds some of the most fearless individuals on planet earth. RIP SONNY CARSON
@@marleyjanim5033they out here in real life fam. You got your panties in a twist
He got the coldest walk in history
Wow man I said the same damn thing lol
Na for real.
He’s got the warmest cardigan in history
@@nicckkkyb 🔥🔥
Most/All black people walk the same way 😅
Hard to believe this movie is 50 years old. Saw this joint when it came out at The Nixon Theater West Philly. This is when gang war was at its peak. I was 11 years old and can relate to this scene.
Thats crazy i did too brother. Time flys.
What’s the name of this movie?
@@stewartvalentino The Education Of Sonny Carson
I grew up on 5900 Walton Ave. What part of west Philly you from?
@@sofakingraw4149 46 & Samson St. West Philly
He went thru THE APACHE LINE We used that for years in the late 70's early 1980's in Brooklyn.
We also called it the Gauntlet
Damn you old AF.
In Chicago, back in the 80's, we said it was a "V in."
@@mpcjunkie72 I lived in Chicago for awhile and I do remember hearing that term
that shit is dumb as hell
lol dude wasn’t EVEN acting. Cold AF!!
Sound like a young tyson
@@nyakwarObatthat’s Bruh Man from the 5th floor in that TV show Martin
@@babyfaceyoungbrotherno fkng way 😮
@@babyfaceyoungbrother lmaoo u funny ah..
This was his only acting credit.
Lil dude was cool af with that smedium red sweater on
and a choker on
You from boston?
Fly and Cold as F**k!
@@peteclemenza1096 I think it’s a sweater
@@YoungYahtz94 underneath a collared shirt?
I wish this kid played Sonny the whole movie he was cool af 🤣
hell yeah. Sonny was out of his prime before he got outta middle school it seems
This young dude is a straight gangsta
Correction dumb
The look on that young man's face who was wearing the fisherman hat had my dying. The way his eye was bucking. 🤣🤣
The 70s had the coolest accents
djpioneer937 N style
djpioneer937 What's the name of this movie?
Boss Elite the education of sonny Carson
djpioneer937...Good looking out homie. Thank you
kids these days eh, crying in trees asking for selfies and for mommy
RZA's editing skills can't be matched!
I remember hearing this on the Ghostface Killa album.
Good acting from the kid..
jbentley8383 THANK YOU. I'VE BEEN HAVING THIS PART STUCK . BUT FORGOT THE SONG. thanks again man
jbentley8383 I don't think he was acting
jbentley8383 That ain't no act. That's Sure enough life 4 sho. Can you dig it.
Iron Maiden is the song
I’ve spent almost 30 years wondering where this soundclip was from!! This just popped up on my feed outta nowhere!!
Same, for all the the years I've been listening to Ironman I only thought of looking up the film today! Downloading it as we speak 😁 There are also clips from the 90s anime Crying Freeman on "Assassination Day", which I have seen, and apparently another 70s film called JD's Revenge on "Wildflower", I need to watch that one too.
@@PKaye-ru2ks I’m right there with you! I just screenshot this comment and I’m gonna watch all them!
Same. No idea for years, then one day it comes up on my feed. I fully intend to watch many films from this era. If ya'll got some suggestions I would really appreciate it.
@@leonsmiles6053
Everything Pam Grier is all i can say!
@@xMister.Misterx Thank my brother. She's a Heavyweight from dem times. Cool.
The Education Of Sonny Carson
Me after seeing the old mill: "Naw man I am just here about your car's extended warranty."
😂😂😂I would’ve turned my black ass around so fast and ran to a classroom
Not me pops 🗣️
Them damn chains! Nope Nada hell now!
😂😂😂 facts
😂😂😂😂
I lived in Fort green at the time of movie being shot NYC had hundreds of gangs in the 60s and 70s
I grew in fort green as well, my apartment overlooked the monument. must have walked a million times through that park. Brings back a shit load of memories.
NYC was renown for that. Probably the only cities on the planet that came close were São Paulo and Naples (Italy). All three cities were essentially defined by gang activity.
@@fleatactical7390Try Los Angeles 🤧. Gangs go back to the late 1800's, early 1900's. Most which are still around today.
@@MacMac1313 You're right. I should have included LA.
I guess realistically all major metro areas across the world have had the same problem. They just aren't as notorious to us perhaps.
Chicago was as much a gang city as any other. Black, brown, white, yellow.
These kids from the 70s had a special type of swag for real
All day '78
its called JIVE
@@cedmo7857 jive was a diss not swagg they called fools jive when they were marks
@@g187um yes but it works because all black people are JIVE
jive means bullshit and it accurately describes every word they speak💡
No videogames, no online porn, always out and yeah the parents back then weren't great either. They just make it seem like parents were. In fact back then more parents were cheating and doing drugs
Man I grew up in the 70s. Brings back memories.
Same. Nothing like it.
You went through that?
@Cormac-jd2kx you wanted to be initiated you had to experience this but all gangs had their own things
@@aim-for-greatn3z947they still do
Little man tuff as nails
Damn right
Dumb
My man head leanin through insults and all
ACE46ST LMFAO
Lol..
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Fuckin smooth with it
As soon as you hear the line can't help but hear the music 🎶
i remember seeing this for the 1st time in the early 90s
BOSTON GOON damn it was even old then
Ghostface
yep jack watkins ur right
Lemarcus Watkins my G, Lemarcus 👊
And Rae
strawberry
Ghost put us on that good #WU
This is brings back my childhood. Times were really this hard on the boulevard...✊🏾
"Dead arm the prosecutor, smacked a juror
Me and my girl'll run like Luke and Laura"
😂😂😂most cats didn't even know he was talking about General Hospital in the 70s. Soap opera. Always love that line. 90s hip hop has some of the most quotable verses of all time. I can't name no era that has more. Not even 80s hip hop
Yeah, that Luke and Laura shit was deep. General Hospital shit. Luke was on the run for years lol, him and Laura was running from everybody: mobsters, the law, debters...@TheDumontShow
Who is here because of Ghostface Killah?
So Cal ✋🏾
So Cal not me
FARRROADGA.613 Fucking Right!
Damn Real!
Legendary
All these years I heard this on that ghostface track but never saw the movie. Gonna have to watch the whole movie now
😁
Ghetto classic, seems a Lil slow now and even boring at times but definitely a classic
I"ll put trademarks around your fucking eyes...Iron Maiden horns....
Thought it was just me.
Pretty sure 99% of the people here are here because of iron maiden
Uh Huh, Uh Huh
This video randomly popped up in my feed and I got so hype. Ive never seen it before. About to play Marvel right now. RIP ODB
2:12 - I would have been like, 'Sooooo....you say the girls need members, right?
abvthlw
Shit.
At least you get to be with the girls,right? 😁
👌🏽😩🤣
Looking good, Andrea Lee...
abvthlw lol😅😂😂😂
abvthlw LMAO word !
2023 and I’m still watching this for motivation.
Real talk in those days... Thats a. Real jump in
Nigga this is fucking slavery...smh...go through this bs and end up fucking off a few of them fools anyway...
Only Jump-ins in area was if you were opposition
Fucc that
Hell Yeah
70s NY was like some dystopian future..
Sun warriors shit
It still is. Far worse in fact.
@@fleatactical7390the USA IS THE ANTICHRIST
@@fleatactical7390lies
This is Chicago
I never saw this movie and know it because of hip hop. I can recite the entire thing verbatim. One of the greatest intros ever on a album
Ghostface used this as the intro to Iron Maiden on the the Ironman album. Shit is dope
If someone puts trademarks around your eyes, will you risk getting a copyright strike when you take a selfie?
EatWave 😂😂
EatWave im done lmao
EatWave he was talkin 2017 shit in the 70s futuristic gangsta
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nope, them trademarks were from a time that wasn’t stupid enough for selfies. Stupid in its own way, but never did they imagine how soft and ill informed people would become.
they walked up the steps in unison so cool
IRON MAIDEN
The initiation scene was filmed in Fort Greene in Brooklyn at the Prison Ship Martyrs Monument. The monument was built to honor the deaths of over 10K colonial citizens who died in British captivity after they were captured during (or after) the Battle of Long Island. The environment in the park eventually "was tough" for local residents in the 1970s and 1980s, was full of graffiti, and suffered through "...some of the worst years of the crack era..." until it got cleaned up in the 2000s.
Damn I didnt know about that, RIP
I lived right near that park when I moved to Brooklyn (S. Oxford bet DeKalb and Lafayette). It was tough, no doubt, but anyone calling it a "shithole" is broadcasting who and what they are.
I mean, the term shithole is subjective. People call NYC a shithole entirely. Fort Greene was defined by violent crime and the crack epidemic for years. Born and raised in Brooklyn and patrolled South Baghdad. If you asked me to pick 1990s Fort Greene or 2006 Baghdad, I'm picking Baghdad 10/10 because at least I'd be armed. Sorry you're offended but the rocks of reality can be jagged. It's better now but history says it has a violent and criminal past. Can't sugarcoat that part, sorry.
@@ProspectFilmRoom Interesting that you'd be afraid in Fort Greene Park as a grown man. I was there as a kid 13/14 in some of the worst years of the crack era without a gun or anything else. Again, you reveal who and what you are by your statements.
@@JoaquinTazabi Listen, I get the fact that you're offended somebody insulted your old neighborhood, but I never said all of Fort Greene was shitty...just the park which is 100000 percent true. You also kinda self-owned yourself by denying it was a shithole then somehow bragging about you being brave enough to walk the streets as a teenager during a crack epidemic. That is, unless you truly think a crack epidemic simply makes a neighborhood "tough" instead of shitty. Nobody can rewrite Fort Greene's history, even those who lived there. And now it's gentrified as fuck with multi-million--dollar brownstones, so how do you like them apples?
That old mill looks like hell!!! Oh naaaaaaw
The old mill was bullshit
@@920mario wanna be a gangsta? got get initiated and put on. no punkin out LOL and once youre in....well you fucked up. now youre in for life...
The new mill got Dracos.
I gotta watch this again....old school classic
Sonny had on a choker underneath his button down. His outfit was fly. Not to mention the fact that he pulled up to the mill to get jumped in rocking a cardigan! Obviously no one informed him of the appropriate dress code for such an event. Peace to Akbar. He was a serious cat. Rest in power.
This is at the beginning of a punk album I just bought. The band is called Zondar & now that I'm seeing it, I remember watching this movie as a little kid. Full Circle 🤘🏾😎
them kids that came up in the city back then were hard.
They're hard today, they just can't speak English properly or rock normie clothing like my boy here.
That walk after jumping off the bus was so cold 🔥🤣🤣🤣
🎯🎯🤣🤣🤣🤣
This kid is perfect
Wow! Sometimes a random YT surf brings in pure gold. I’ll be looking this movie up, best discovery I’ve made all year 😊
Go listen to iron maiden by ghostface killah. He sampled it for the track. Great song and great movie, the education of Sonny Carson
Apache line, some of them gang members were real members.
pluto seven Tbb thats all based of Chicagos Vicelords
pluto seven Tbb even down to the name n colors
@@ErnieIsleysabeast no theyre warlords not vice Lords
then they are twice the idiot for doing this dumb bullshit in real life
I use to watch this everyday when I was a kid it's one of the main VCR tapes ninjas had...
Fun factz the dude who played sonny carson is the same guy who played the detective in juice who arrested them at the dj battle
Bet sure was
Classic movie... My pops put me up on it
Wow, that kid reminds me of Darius McCray aka Eddie Winslow from family matters. But he wasn't even born yet... This movie came out in 1974 and he wasn't born until 1976.
I thought the same!!!
J Rock yup...he sure do
J Rock especially on that movie Hotshots when he was this dudes age
J Rock that's the same thing I said when I first saw him he look like he could be his big brother
60473hellraiser ..What's the name of that movie? I've never seen it before. I wanna check it out!
Damn!!!...these are some good lil actors!!!...well done!!! 👏
I grew up where they call the old mill. It's Fort Greene Park in BROOKLYN.
The old Mill was them running through a bunch of guys on each side getting beat …not in Brooklyn !
I never listened to Ghostface but this shit crack me up every time! 🤣
You should
Shouts out to the 70s man.
Best Decade Ever
One of my favorite movies
The first time I heard this was in Ghost Face Killahs album.
What a great way to grow up! I can't wait to get Jumped In! My future is going to be great!
remember this like it was yesterday 😔
Wow! Love those black in the day joints.
Yo! Ghost i luv ya man.
Classic line on the album.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
You wouldn't even complain about the leather belts after the first dudes smack you with them metal chains thick enough to tow a damn car with.
I remember this from ghostface killah. Always thought that the dude sounded like a young nas
The actor who superbly played the young Sonny Carson is named Thomas Hicks.
The only credits he has on imdb ("Thomas Hicks (I)") are this and a directing credit from 2009 for a video called "Unicycle Film."
"Two unicyclists join together and fall in love in a forest."
Okay, WTF?
I have so many questions.
Hahaha that’s awesome
Try wiki he apparently also played in Juice
All the times I’ve listened to ghostface album I’m just now seeing what this actually looks like
Same thing I was saying when I seen this 😅💯
Just clicked on this because instantly recognised the title as the sample on a Ghostface track from 28 years ago - never had a clue where the sample was from... it's just been in my head all this time...
Eddue Winslow or the dude that played young Ricky in Boyz in the hood
Not Winslow, it was the dude that gave back the football to Ricky
He played young Ricky. That's Eddie Winslow's (Darius McCrary) brother, Donovan.
Thomas Hicks, "eddue Winslow" 😏
It's poignant scenes like this, even if there's some floundering in the acting, that really inspire me to write. I love the young man's posture, his cigarette-eaten voice, and the viciousness sitting behind his eyes. I eat this stuff up!!!!
How we taught ourselves to hate each other.
Worship Allah alone and submit as Muslims in Islam...
Shaitian taught y'all to hate each other
thats corny
every ethnicity had gangsters. all those that immigrated here has had them,. the Italian maifa was big back in these days irish mafia in boston etc.
it aint JUST US
@@abdulshaheedcrutchfield3315Jesus Christ is lord ✝️
@@BabyBreez0 The only true one!
As always, improving the community.
Stay in school kids. Leave them streets alone 😂😂😂😂
🎯🎯🎯🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's also stupid af that black fraternities have "jumped in" pledges. College students are supposed to be our social elite, and some of them have chosen to engage in that foul behavior.
Fuckin sexy the way the bus scolls in and dude jumps off the back as his intro! Also, this dude reeeealy wanted to be in that gang goin through that old mill. he got heart tho
I remember as a kid, my uncle's were Lord's... They had the flyest jackets, Black and Gold... Blue and white when they were out of town... 518 stand up!!! 💪😎
@hawwndawg🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
518 like upstate NY?
@@yankees29 🎯
@hawwndawg fact's...
Here coz of Ghostface’s album and I’m ok with that 😎
Lil buddy had those Mr Rogers threads on
One of my favorite movies of all time
Greatest scene EVER
keep talkin jive, turkey
I say that boy got heart
I’m only now realizing how much ghostface editing the interaction for his cd
I'm so glad my childhood wasn't like that.
I know this off the Ghostface album, but just learned this movie is based off of the father of Professor X the Overseer from XClan.
His voice hadn't even started to crack yet...🖤👑
Such a dope memory on the Ironman album!! 😆
Thank you for the slice of genius.
Dude reminds me of Russell Westbrook lol
Rumi One i just said it lol
I always said this lol
After all these years I finally see this clip
That's a brutal initiation
He struck fear in their hearts
"giv it"
On god this is the craziest thing i seen on RUclips in 10 years
Bruh Man before he moved to Detroit 🤣
😅😅
As soon as I would have seen that “Old Mill” gauntlet line, I would have been like, “Uuuhhh…Yeah, I was just bullshittin’! I’m good. What I gotta do to be a Gangsta Desciple, cause sheeeeiiitt!?”.
Did one guy have a rolled up newspaper?? Haaa!
Saw this movie as a little kid. Real and raw! “The Education of Sonny Carson.”
I wonder how much they get paid by the hour to just stand around all day and wait for someone to get initiated. LOL
They ain't get paid, they ain't have shit else to do
Thanks for giving the name, I appreciate it bro
Badass line!