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Oh, just wanted to add that, if you have the bandwidth to explore this topic further, a repeat test with a good solar film to see if that could bring a Tesla glass roof to around the same temperature as the BYD glass roof. Because I think many Tesla owners would be actively considering a solar film with good IR filtering. Cheers!
Yes but Tesla fanboys will not like this video at all. Always look for a reason, no matter how flimsy, to disregard or dismiss the findings in this experiment.
Hi Tom, I've been following you for a while now. I hesitated between a seal or a model Y. It turned out to be a seal, normally I will be able to pick it up in the next few days. Thank you for the honest reviews of the cars, it gave me a better idea of the two cars. I will definitely continue to follow your reviews. definitely keep doing it. Kind regards, Philippe
@ADudesRotary Do any cars have that feature? That could be more dangerous as it makes the kid or car easy to steal. Automatic climate control would seem better? That way, the child is both protected from being kidnapped and cooking or freezing depending on outside temperature. But the best feature is the one that warns you to check the back seat before leaving or in the BYD actual detection, our Kia just reminds us to check back seat regardless if anyone is there or not.
Very practical test Tom, and covered all the bases. Last weekend I sat as a backseat passenger for 30 minutes in a Seal test drive in Brisbane with arvo temp of about 31 degrees. I could not feel the heat from the sunroof at all, and in fact I thought it was cloudy at the time, but it was just the sunroof coloration that made it seem that way as there were few clouds. Must say that the back seats of the Seal are a great place to be on a hot day, I was really impressed. My test drive was riddled with dozens of unknown warnings and I have to say was a deal breaker. My Atto 3 gives me a few warnings only on a 30 minute drive, and they are usually for parked cars when going around corners on narrower roads, so is at least forgivable. (Forgot to mention that when I drove the Seal I never actually noticed the sunroof once, whereas as a passenger it was a real feature.)
Yeah the milky sunroof presumably due to the silver coating makes a big difference subjectively to improve passenger comfort. We’ll see if the next OTA update improves the ADAS warnings
Have to say for cars at this price point I would expect a built in electric operated shade for the glass roof. My KIA has that and an openable roof. I switch between having the shade retracted and covered all the time (as the sun goes behind clouds, etc) with an easy press of a button. No way I'm putting up with unfurling and manually clipping 2 shades on the roof, then unclipping and folding them and then trying to stow them somewhere!
@planetcountryradio8622 Definitely not needed in the Seal. The glass technology is so good compared to BYD's Atto 3 which, like your Kia, requires a retractable shade.
@@planetcountryradio8622it's all about the wow factor. Retractable sunshade will remove the wow factor. And why need the shade when the tech in the glass is just as good, if not better, than a shade?
Excellent Tom, your tests are as close to real world as we need without going overboard and wasting too much time. I was suffering bigtime even in Melbourne in my Model Y, and after your 1st tests bought a Haloblk shade - looks good and does similar to your recommended one. I can't believe Texas, Arizona, New Mexico etc doesn't have similar or worse heat than Oz, and Americans haven't complained to Tesla.....
The problem is they are mostly fanboys and so will only give the positives about he car. I recall watching a Model 3 video once where two owners were chatting about the am glass roofs and they completely downplayed it in warm weather.
Great video Tom. I was very apprehensive about the glass roof before picking up my Seal and was very surprised at how well the roof reacts to the hot sun after taking delivery, exactly what your experiment shows. I haven't had to bother using the shades at all - absolutely brilliant 👌
Had a 38C day in Melbourne few days ago, car measured 40C outside. Parked my Seal out side to go shopping and it's still very hot inside the car coming back to it. Steering wheel and seats are burning due to the sun directly shining through the front windscreen. i was surprised to put my hand on the glass roof and it's warm to the touch to the point that i can make contact and not feel the burn like the steering wheel. moral of the story is i need a silver treated windscreen shade :P
A hot day is a hot day and most cars will be hot inside if left unshaded 😉 Some more so than others. I always keep a windscreen shade in the car as a lot of the heat will also come through the front. Roof sunshade also makes sense if you’re parking outside for long periods
Really good info, I test drove both the seal and model 3 on the same 37C day in Perth. Definitely felt the heat from the glass roof in the model 3. The seal was noticeably cooler.
I felt it too subjectively when I tested the two cars side by side: 2024 Tesla Model 3 RWD Highland Update vs BYD Seal Premium Australia ruclips.net/video/YAaKVAST3w4/видео.html
After a month of ownership and living on the Sunshine Coast average 32 degrees happy to report zero problems driving my Seal, not an issue with the glass roof. I am bald headed so I am sensitive to heat from the sun and Byd guarantee 99% uv protection, I believe to be true, still wear sunscreen though, recently spent $2000 on BCC Basal Cell Carconoma removal.
Thanks for redoing the test Tom. I don't remember the old video fully, but the masking tape seems to have produced even worse results for the Tesla? Not what Tesla fans were expecting, I guess?
Very clear winner. Seal beat MY with or without tape. Actually without tape (your previous video) the temperature readings were closer between both cars. Big gap between Seal and MY under same circumstances.
I suspected it would demonstrate the same result … and it has! Who wants me to repost my previous video which I took down? I’ll do it if I get more than 20 likes
You can release to your members first and after a delay (which you can set) it will be released to the public. There are paid channel memberships available to purchase
I can already tell you it’d be a very similar result. It’s essentially the same glass. I didn’t measure it in my comparison video but subjectively the Model 3 felt much warmer: 2024 Tesla Model 3 RWD Highland Update vs BYD Seal Premium Australia ruclips.net/video/YAaKVAST3w4/видео.html
Excellent work this test was more consistent than the last one, that’s a big selling point for BYD in hot climates like Australia As a side thought this may impact range too because of the Tesla gets so much hotter it would require the air conditioning to work harder to keep the same ambient temperature
Hey Tom, good to chat to you in the electric everything. I see your getting about a range of 516 km (if trip B is your last recharge). I'm getting about 506km range (currently I'm taking it Close to 20%), but it seems the battery drops faster in lower soc? You agree?
@@LudicrousFeed I'll eat my words, I was off by about ten km, currently I'm on 395km at 25%. So my range calculation for city driving is 526 (eco driving). And like I mentioned above I had 506 for highway driving
I don’t believe it does but there is a powered sunshade to negate the heat: BYD Dolphin Premium Variant Australia Walkthrough and Test Drive ruclips.net/video/gjubPYDkm50/видео.html
I’ve always payed the extra for heat reflective windscreen and side glass if the manufacturer offered it as optional. When mobile phones and GPS became available you had to attach a magnetic antenna on the outside because the reflective material inside the glass will block signals. It’s not a film stuck to the glass, it’s between the two glass sheets during glass manufacturing. If it’s not tinted you can see a polarised sheen on the surface.
Had my first test drive of the BYD Seal performance this week, I was impressed with the off the line acceleration, I will be going back to have a closer look at the fit and finish of the car and to test the voice commands. The car ì drove had the cover in place on the glass roof so didn't notice any heat issues. Thanks for the videos 😊
They overlooked functioning auto wipers, auto headlights, ultrasonic sensors, functioning parking sensors, stalks and simple intuitive controls to change AC temps (like a dial) and matrix headlights. No biggie on the roof... :)
Tesla hardware is all about cutting costs and budget. Its the software that makes Tesla great. I mean look at their history of removing ultrasonic sensors, removing indicator stalks etc, its all about minimizing the cost of the bill of materials. Maybe a premium model like Model S or Model X should at least have it. Its why the Seal is such a great value, it has many premium features even though software could use some polish.
I've added multiple layers of insulation to the roof of my Model 3. The glass roof is totally unsuitable to many parts of Australia for most of the year. Great car otherwise but they need to improve this aspect of their cars. For open disclosure we live in Northern rural NSW where summer is brutal with few cool changes. In 2023 i only had the shades out for the winter months. By the time the temps started heading into the 20s the car was too hot again.
Excellent analysis, as usual Tom ! Thank you. What I don’t understand is this - Tesla KNOWS that the cabin heating up in the 3/Y, in hot climates (such as Australia) is a very REAL problem, despite their public denials to the contrary… Why doesn’t Tesla offer a steel roof version for these markets, and let the customer decide… Or least offer an integrated internal sunshade, and not expect owners, like yourself, to fart arse around and have to get an after market sunshade? ( BTW, your after market one, whilst it does the job, with all respect Tom, does looks very “aftermarket” and does not befit the interior of a $70k vehicle 😳😳 Or as a 3rd option, Tesla should at least incorporate the same silver coated glass roof technology as BYD! It seems as though Tesla JUST DOES NOT WANT TO OFFER the same, important, critical features/inclusions that every OTHER global car manufacturer does as a matter of course… I mean, why is it that even a mid-spec $40-50k Hyundai, Kia or Toyota can offer a integrated sunshade…. But the $600 billion Tesla company cannot ?? This, along with the lack of a driver’s screen instrument binnacle, are the two deal breakers that prevented me from purchasing a model 3 a couple of years when I replaced my previous vehicle… Even though the rest of the car is certainly the very best in terms of EV tech and efficiency… Such a shame that Tesla will not offer the options/inclusions that so many former ICE owners expect to be standard on any new vehicle these days 😏😏😏
I sat in a seal for the first time today (alrwady an atto owner) and tried to find the sunshade like the atto!! Was a bit worried by the lack of sunshade but this is reassuring. Just wish the Seal had a wagon varient!
From the feedback I’ve read on social media, I think most early Seal owners in Australia could subjectively feel the heat rejection at work by the silver treated glass roof over the 2023/24 summer. Nice to have the objective data to back it up now 👍
What is the color of the back pf the duct tape? If it is white, heat energy is being reflected back. (good for test). If it is black, heat is being absorbed from sunlight.
Great comparison. Sun shades a must. Is there any efficiency gain by having a glass roof on an EV, increased head room so the roof line can be lower? Eventually they might have solar glass standard to provide a bit of shade and trickle charge the battery when left in the sun?
I did the same but only for the back half of the roof, because it is all one glass sheet with the rear window. The installer suggested that tinting the front half of the roof wouldn't make much difference, but I still need to use a sun shade in this section. What has been your experience?
While watching this video of sun shading the Model3 I noticed that following. The Frunk was called the Bonnet and the Trunk was called the Boot.. Terms used in the British Isles, Australia and New Zealand. Please give us a run down on how these name changes are made. Yours truly & sincerely, Lionel Rockman
I’ve been waiting for this. Not to nitpick, it would be great to do the tests 10 times for each car and calculate the mean and standard deviation for each metric and the confidence intervals as well.
Yes numbers are great and it’s an excellent video. Good to know why. Silver reflects the heat and dark absorbs the heat. By the way I picked up my new car today.
Thanks Tom, you’ve fixed some of the problem with reflective surfaces, but again - huge variation depending on solar conditions, and with any overcast it’s just simply not possible to tell. The test would have to be done on a “blue sky” day at about the same time to really be of any value. Unless you have the cars sitting side by side simultaneously, the human eye can’t pick the difference with varying solar radiation and cloud cover. As an example it’s a cloudy (overcast) day here in Brisbane today, and my roof top solar has produced anything from just 350w to over 2.5kW within a time frame of just twenty minutes, and yet by eye it looks the same, as the human eye compensates.
I don't doubt that the e-coating makes a difference but this was very unscientific. Even though temps might have been similar, when you measured the Tesla temps the sun was clearly unobstructed by clouds, shadows inside the car are clear and sharp. When you measured the Seal the sun is obstructed by clouds, no clear shadows at all. This can make a big difference as it is the radiant heat of the sun driving temperatures above ambient. Measurements should be done side by side at the same time.
Um are we watching the same video? They were both fairly cloudy humid conditions. I mean admittedly the Seal roof makes the outside world seem 'milkier' which presumably is the silver coating. Not a bad thing imo
@@LudicrousFeed Compare frames 3:45 and 7:21 One is bright sunshine the other is overcast filtered sun. You reckon that's the glass doing that? Even outside the car in those frames it looks different.
I know you’re looking for a reason to doubt the authenticity of this experiment but trust me when I say conditions were very similar throughout the 90mins it took to film this video. Yes the sun may have occasionally broken through every now and then as it often does on an overcast day. In fact, if you keep watching from 4:03 onward when I’m actually measuring the temp of the cap, conditions had returned to cloudy/overcast again
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Thanks for doing this experiment. A really important topic as so many cars nowadays come with glass roofs
Glad you liked it!
Oh, just wanted to add that, if you have the bandwidth to explore this topic further, a repeat test with a good solar film to see if that could bring a Tesla glass roof to around the same temperature as the BYD glass roof. Because I think many Tesla owners would be actively considering a solar film with good IR filtering. Cheers!
Yes but Tesla fanboys will not like this video at all. Always look for a reason, no matter how flimsy, to disregard or dismiss the findings in this experiment.
Hi Tom, I've been following you for a while now. I hesitated between a seal or a model Y. It turned out to be a seal, normally I will be able to pick it up in the next few days. Thank you for the honest reviews of the cars, it gave me a better idea of the two cars. I will definitely continue to follow your reviews. definitely keep doing it. Kind regards, Philippe
My pleasure! I’ll continue to keep it real on this channel 👍
Interesting , I saw my first BYD Seal in the wild here in Perth yesterday.
A white BYD Seal on Norma rd.
Nice. Did you like what you saw?
@@LudicrousFeed
Yes .
I only saw it briefly , but it looked good
Best example not to leave kids and pets inside a car alone.
The BYD Seal has an option for Child Presence Detection under the ADAS settings
Do the windows automatically open if a child is detected?
I’ll have to do a test with a bag of rice …
@ADudesRotary Do any cars have that feature? That could be more dangerous as it makes the kid or car easy to steal. Automatic climate control would seem better? That way, the child is both protected from being kidnapped and cooking or freezing depending on outside temperature. But the best feature is the one that warns you to check the back seat before leaving or in the BYD actual detection, our Kia just reminds us to check back seat regardless if anyone is there or not.
much better mate! well done on listening and adapting to comments! keep up the good work :)
Pleasure! This channel would be nothing without our loyal and well informed viewers 🙏
Very practical test Tom, and covered all the bases.
Last weekend I sat as a backseat passenger for 30 minutes in a Seal test drive in Brisbane with arvo temp of about 31 degrees. I could not feel the heat from the sunroof at all, and in fact I thought it was cloudy at the time, but it was just the sunroof coloration that made it seem that way as there were few clouds.
Must say that the back seats of the Seal are a great place to be on a hot day, I was really impressed. My test drive was riddled with dozens of unknown warnings and I have to say was a deal breaker. My Atto 3 gives me a few warnings only on a 30 minute drive, and they are usually for parked cars when going around corners on narrower roads, so is at least forgivable.
(Forgot to mention that when I drove the Seal I never actually noticed the sunroof once, whereas as a passenger it was a real feature.)
Yeah the milky sunroof presumably due to the silver coating makes a big difference subjectively to improve passenger comfort. We’ll see if the next OTA update improves the ADAS warnings
Have to say for cars at this price point I would expect a built in electric operated shade for the glass roof. My KIA has that and an openable roof. I switch between having the shade retracted and covered all the time (as the sun goes behind clouds, etc) with an easy press of a button. No way I'm putting up with unfurling and manually clipping 2 shades on the roof, then unclipping and folding them and then trying to stow them somewhere!
Reportedly there will be an update on BYD in March this year
@planetcountryradio8622 Definitely not needed in the Seal. The glass technology is so good compared to BYD's Atto 3 which, like your Kia, requires a retractable shade.
@@planetcountryradio8622it's all about the wow factor. Retractable sunshade will remove the wow factor. And why need the shade when the tech in the glass is just as good, if not better, than a shade?
Excellent Tom, your tests are as close to real world as we need without going overboard and wasting too much time. I was suffering bigtime even in Melbourne in my Model Y, and after your 1st tests bought a Haloblk shade - looks good and does similar to your recommended one. I can't believe Texas, Arizona, New Mexico etc doesn't have similar or worse heat than Oz, and Americans haven't complained to Tesla.....
Thanks! Glad to hear you got the shades - highly recommended for anyone who owns a Model 3 or Y
The problem is they are mostly fanboys and so will only give the positives about he car. I recall watching a Model 3 video once where two owners were chatting about the am glass roofs and they completely downplayed it in warm weather.
Great video Tom. I was very apprehensive about the glass roof before picking up my Seal and was very surprised at how well the roof reacts to the hot sun after taking delivery, exactly what your experiment shows. I haven't had to bother using the shades at all - absolutely brilliant 👌
Thanks and agreed! Nice to have the numbers to back up how we all feel subjectively 😁
Thanks Tom, quite a difference. Covered it well.
Cheers! 🥂
Had a 38C day in Melbourne few days ago, car measured 40C outside. Parked my Seal out side to go shopping and it's still very hot inside the car coming back to it. Steering wheel and seats are burning due to the sun directly shining through the front windscreen. i was surprised to put my hand on the glass roof and it's warm to the touch to the point that i can make contact and not feel the burn like the steering wheel. moral of the story is i need a silver treated windscreen shade :P
A hot day is a hot day and most cars will be hot inside if left unshaded 😉 Some more so than others. I always keep a windscreen shade in the car as a lot of the heat will also come through the front. Roof sunshade also makes sense if you’re parking outside for long periods
Really good info, I test drove both the seal and model 3 on the same 37C day in Perth. Definitely felt the heat from the glass roof in the model 3. The seal was noticeably cooler.
I felt it too subjectively when I tested the two cars side by side: 2024 Tesla Model 3 RWD Highland Update vs BYD Seal Premium Australia
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After a month of ownership and living on the Sunshine Coast average 32 degrees happy to report zero problems driving my Seal, not an issue with the glass roof. I am bald headed so I am sensitive to heat from the sun and Byd guarantee 99% uv protection, I believe to be true, still wear sunscreen though, recently spent $2000 on BCC Basal Cell Carconoma removal.
Glad to hear! Good reminder to get regular skin checks 👍
So is it better to put tint or just live with the silver coating? It is quite hot here in South east Asia.. 😅
The glass roof already has UV protection/tinting so when combined with IR/silver coating, it helps a lot in our Australian summers
Thanks for redoing the test Tom. I don't remember the old video fully, but the masking tape seems to have produced even worse results for the Tesla? Not what Tesla fans were expecting, I guess?
Yeah I think the results were closer first time around. I'm thinking of rereleasing the original ...
Very clear winner. Seal beat MY with or without tape. Actually without tape (your previous video) the temperature readings were closer between both cars. Big gap between Seal and MY under same circumstances.
I suspected it would demonstrate the same result … and it has!
Who wants me to repost my previous video which I took down? I’ll do it if I get more than 20 likes
Please repost it. It was a good experiment 👍
@@LudicrousFeedplease repost it. I really need this info. Thanks!
In addition to keeping the occupants cooler, the AC does not need to work as hard and would consume less energy.
Yup 👍
Noticed you had this video blocked for payed subscribers...didn't know you could do that on youtube.
Did anyone pay you though to watching this?
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I'd like to see this experiment with the Model 3 highland VS Seal because it's similar year technology. For Model Y Too old😅, thank you very much.😊
I can already tell you it’d be a very similar result. It’s essentially the same glass. I didn’t measure it in my comparison video but subjectively the Model 3 felt much warmer: 2024 Tesla Model 3 RWD Highland Update vs BYD Seal Premium Australia
ruclips.net/video/YAaKVAST3w4/видео.html
Excellent work this test was more consistent than the last one, that’s a big selling point for BYD in hot climates like Australia
As a side thought this may impact range too because of the Tesla gets so much hotter it would require the air conditioning to work harder to keep the same ambient temperature
Yup efficiency matters when it comes to EVs 👍
hope you thumb nail is fine brother....
Thank you, it’s on the road to recovery 🙏
Hey Tom, good to chat to you in the electric everything. I see your getting about a range of 516 km (if trip B is your last recharge). I'm getting about 506km range (currently I'm taking it Close to 20%), but it seems the battery drops faster in lower soc? You agree?
Hmm I haven’t gone that low yet to experience any difference in efficiency
@@LudicrousFeed I'll eat my words, I was off by about ten km, currently I'm on 395km at 25%. So my range calculation for city driving is 526 (eco driving). And like I mentioned above I had 506 for highway driving
Thank you for this. Do you know whether the BYD Dolphin has silver coating on its glass roof?
I don’t believe it does but there is a powered sunshade to negate the heat: BYD Dolphin Premium Variant Australia Walkthrough and Test Drive
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I’ve always payed the extra for heat reflective windscreen and side glass if the manufacturer offered it as optional. When mobile phones and GPS became available you had to attach a magnetic antenna on the outside because the reflective material inside the glass will block signals. It’s not a film stuck to the glass, it’s between the two glass sheets during glass manufacturing. If it’s not tinted you can see a polarised sheen on the surface.
Had my first test drive of the BYD Seal performance this week, I was impressed with the off the line acceleration, I will be going back to have a closer look at the fit and finish of the car and to test the voice commands. The car ì drove had the cover in place on the glass roof so didn't notice any heat issues. Thanks for the videos 😊
Glad you enjoyed the test drive and yes it’s worth a second look 😁
on a clear night, point those a the night sky, its amazingly cold.
That I have to try
Hi, do you know if polishing the roof may damage or remove the UV protection on the glass? I want to apply a hydrophobic coating to mine.
Awesome, thanks Tom! From test driving both cars that result seems in line with my thoughts/experience. Cheers
Glad you enjoyed it!
My god why doesn't Tesla have the silver coated glass? It's unbelievable that they have overlooked this. This will influence my buying decision
Let’s hope someone from Tesla watches this
They overlooked functioning auto wipers, auto headlights, ultrasonic sensors, functioning parking sensors, stalks and simple intuitive controls to change AC temps (like a dial) and matrix headlights. No biggie on the roof... :)
Tesla hardware is all about cutting costs and budget. Its the software that makes Tesla great. I mean look at their history of removing ultrasonic sensors, removing indicator stalks etc, its all about minimizing the cost of the bill of materials. Maybe a premium model like Model S or Model X should at least have it.
Its why the Seal is such a great value, it has many premium features even though software could use some polish.
They also overlooked gear shift lever, instrument cluster screen, and heads up display.
I've added multiple layers of insulation to the roof of my Model 3. The glass roof is totally unsuitable to many parts of Australia for most of the year. Great car otherwise but they need to improve this aspect of their cars.
For open disclosure we live in Northern rural NSW where summer is brutal with few cool changes. In 2023 i only had the shades out for the winter months. By the time the temps started heading into the 20s the car was too hot again.
Yes shades are a must for the warmer months
@@LudicrousFeed and several 1cm thick foil insulation. Makes a massive difference. Even noticed a drop in wh/km. 😃
Oh no we’re having 44 degree days in Perth and I’m picking up my new Tesla next week! 🤦🏻♀️
Congrats! But make sure you order a sunshade and one preferably with silver coating as featured in this video (product details in description)
Excellent analysis, as usual Tom ! Thank you.
What I don’t understand is this -
Tesla KNOWS that the cabin heating up in the 3/Y, in hot climates (such as Australia) is a very REAL problem, despite their public denials to the contrary…
Why doesn’t Tesla offer a steel roof version for these markets, and let the customer decide…
Or least offer an integrated internal sunshade, and not expect owners, like yourself, to fart arse around and have to get an after market sunshade? ( BTW, your after market one, whilst it does the job, with all respect Tom, does looks very “aftermarket” and does not befit the interior of a $70k vehicle 😳😳
Or as a 3rd option, Tesla should at least incorporate the same silver coated glass roof technology as BYD!
It seems as though Tesla JUST DOES NOT WANT TO OFFER the same, important, critical features/inclusions that every OTHER global car manufacturer does as a matter of course…
I mean, why is it that even a mid-spec $40-50k Hyundai, Kia or Toyota can offer a integrated sunshade….
But the $600 billion Tesla company cannot ??
This, along with the lack of a driver’s screen instrument binnacle, are the two deal breakers that prevented me from purchasing a model 3 a couple of years when I replaced my previous vehicle…
Even though the rest of the car is certainly the very best in terms of EV tech and efficiency…
Such a shame that Tesla will not offer the options/inclusions that so many former ICE owners expect to be standard on any new vehicle these days 😏😏😏
Thanks for your thoughts! Let’s see if Tesla will at least add silver to their glass roof as it doesn’t otherwise significantly affect efficiency
Hi, thx for sharing. Need advice as I'm from Malaysia. So means Seal does not require tinting the sunroof?
It’s already UV and silver treated 👍
I think you’re better off with a sunshade to be honest
That is some quality silver coating, well done BYD. But honestly all those glass roofs on the new cars are a bad idea for Australia.
Silver coating goes a long way 👍
Sliding cover over a glass roof seems the best compromise
I sat in a seal for the first time today (alrwady an atto owner) and tried to find the sunshade like the atto!! Was a bit worried by the lack of sunshade but this is reassuring. Just wish the Seal had a wagon varient!
From the feedback I’ve read on social media, I think most early Seal owners in Australia could subjectively feel the heat rejection at work by the silver treated glass roof over the 2023/24 summer. Nice to have the objective data to back it up now 👍
What is built date of your BYD Seal. Just wondering how long it takes from factory built to delivery in Dec 2023 in Australia?
Build date of my Seal is 10/2023
What is the color of the back pf the duct tape? If it is white, heat energy is being reflected back. (good for test). If it is black, heat is being absorbed from sunlight.
I’m actually using Gaffa tape in this test and it’s white on the adhesive side
I downloaded the seal handbook on to my iPad but the important thumbnails are all out of focus which makes it useless. Any ideas Tom ?.
Yeah the pics aren’t vector files sadly so they aren’t the best quality
thanks for the test! This is a important issue since I have small kids and I do 2-3 hrs drive under heavy sun.
Pleasure🙏 IR coverage js important
Is there an equivalent aftermarket treatment available that anyone is aware of?
thank you for all the good videos love the daily and normal use you do it show more what one can expect ones self. keep up the good work.
My pleasure! Thanks for watching 🙏
Great review as usual! Can you do one about the byd seal's ultrasonic sensors and radars for the cruise control?
Thanks! Yup, good suggestion
Great comparison. Sun shades a must. Is there any efficiency gain by having a glass roof on an EV, increased head room so the roof line can be lower? Eventually they might have solar glass standard to provide a bit of shade and trickle charge the battery when left in the sun?
I’d say the glass roof is for weight reduction thus adding to improved efficiency
i actually paid to get the extra tint put on my model 3 on the roof but it makes a big difference.
I did the same but only for the back half of the roof, because it is all one glass sheet with the rear window. The installer suggested that tinting the front half of the roof wouldn't make much difference, but I still need to use a sun shade in this section. What has been your experience?
you think its bad in Sydney weather try Brisbane weather it gets up to 40 to 45 in side the cabin on a normal day.
If I lived in Qld I’d definitely get the silver shades
While watching this video of sun shading the Model3 I noticed that following.
The Frunk was called the Bonnet and the Trunk was called the Boot..
Terms used in the British Isles, Australia and New Zealand.
Please give us a run down on how these name changes are made.
Yours truly & sincerely,
Lionel Rockman
Change the language to British English
Thanks Tom for the Head UP.
Very interesting video, 33 degrees on a hat indoors....yeah thats pretty spicy :/
Yup, hot stuff 🥵
Dude, what happened to your right thumb nail?
I injured it filming this video: Jowua Folding Electric Scooter fits in frunk of Tesla Model S 3 X Y
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Are there any 3rd part films that can be used on the Tesla to bring the temps down?
Yes, but you risk the glass cracking
I’m happy to bring my white model Y and you can do the test again 😂
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I’ve been waiting for this. Not to nitpick, it would be great to do the tests 10 times for each car and calculate the mean and standard deviation for each metric and the confidence intervals as well.
Thanks and No I'm not doing that
There is no need to repeat something that has such clear results
BYD is dramatically better. 🥵
It’s quite clear
did i miss something? thought u ordered the Tesla Model 3...what happened?
That was so 2023! 😆
Start with this one: How I Sold My Model 3 Privately & Tesla App to Transfer to New Owner
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Yes correct
Tesla = a greenhouse on wheels
They can get quite hot without the shade
Wow! What channel!
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I am not one to say ‘I told you so’ but I told you so. 😂
Good to have the numbers to back it up 😁
Yes numbers are great and it’s an excellent video. Good to know why. Silver reflects the heat and dark absorbs the heat. By the way I picked up my new car today.
@@Sensei_Sifu I have it already, of cause
Thanks Tom, you’ve fixed some of the problem with reflective surfaces, but again - huge variation depending on solar conditions, and with any overcast it’s just simply not possible to tell. The test would have to be done on a “blue sky” day at about the same time to really be of any value.
Unless you have the cars sitting side by side simultaneously, the human eye can’t pick the difference with varying solar radiation and cloud cover.
As an example it’s a cloudy (overcast) day here in Brisbane today, and my roof top solar has produced anything from just 350w to over 2.5kW within a time frame of just twenty minutes, and yet by eye it looks the same, as the human eye compensates.
ok thanks for the suggestion but I'm done with this test lol. You guys get the idea - happy for someone to repeat this test for me on a clear day
The shades need to be on the outside of the glass! I think in OZ you need to get the roof rapped! White would be best.
yeah it can get quite hot and steamy under there in the heat of summer if unshaded
I know a guy with a Model 3 who had the roof wrapped in white, made a huge difference.
Damn those Tesla seems like such crappy cars. Gets worst and worst each day..
Damn....the most sold car world wide is currently a Tesla. Even in Australia (despite Sky News) the most sold passenger car is a Tesla.
Didn’t BYD pass Tesla in sales for the last quarter of 2023?
@@moestrei pretty sure Tesla Model Y is no 6 in Australia for 2023.
Suggestion...instead of black tape you could use a black whiteboard marker.
Draw on the glass?
I don't doubt that the e-coating makes a difference but this was very unscientific. Even though temps might have been similar, when you measured the Tesla temps the sun was clearly unobstructed by clouds, shadows inside the car are clear and sharp. When you measured the Seal the sun is obstructed by clouds, no clear shadows at all. This can make a big difference as it is the radiant heat of the sun driving temperatures above ambient. Measurements should be done side by side at the same time.
Um are we watching the same video? They were both fairly cloudy humid conditions. I mean admittedly the Seal roof makes the outside world seem 'milkier' which presumably is the silver coating. Not a bad thing imo
@@LudicrousFeed Compare frames 3:45 and 7:21 One is bright sunshine the other is overcast filtered sun. You reckon that's the glass doing that? Even outside the car in those frames it looks different.
I know you’re looking for a reason to doubt the authenticity of this experiment but trust me when I say conditions were very similar throughout the 90mins it took to film this video. Yes the sun may have occasionally broken through every now and then as it often does on an overcast day. In fact, if you keep watching from 4:03 onward when I’m actually measuring the temp of the cap, conditions had returned to cloudy/overcast again
Disappointed Tesla fanboy, is that you? 😢
Well done for taking the effort to conduct such scientific experiment. This really helps to understand better.
Pleasure 👍
Drove down the M1 today, Newcastle back to Sydney. Saw a white BYD Seal passing me, secretly thinking that could be Tom!
I have eyes and ears everywhere 👀