The World of Warcraft iceberg, Explained
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2020
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the GM telling a story about Woo Ping rather than just saying "he was removed because there was no use for him anymore" was really cute
Loved that part, shows their dedication to the game imo
Shows that they really loves their job, too.
Makes me miss the times GMS were really active and enough of them to do things like that with their time
In early expansions of Wow, Gms were usually interesting and well thought out roleplayers as well.
Gms used to be amazing. I got a free faction change by sending a GM and rp of why I was on the wrong faction.
Great video! Loved the ending!
Thanks so much love your content BTW
@@Athleon You need to turn up the volume in the video.
The man is here.
Kanye west indeed likes big kardashian fingers. I think that needs to be your next wow lore. I know its not wow lore but its connected in an obscure way
Ain't you supposed to be bullying Asmongold into cosplyaing the Jailer?
>CDC researchers studied the corrupted blood incident
>that study went nowhere despite how it perfectly emulated how people would act during a real life pandemic sans the magic
_we were warned, and we did not listen_
No dude the study is wrong because people wouldnt intentionaly spread the disease without consecuence and the stakes were lower.
@Fuck Google Thats just a rumour I think.
well you see, we were warned about this pandemic like a solid 4-8 years ahead of time, there were tons of predictions of a new potential virus coming from china's meat markets for a long time now buuut
like usual, countries didnt listen to the smart men and women of science until it was too late
kinda like with global warming and all that too
@Fuck Google yes but it intensified significantly in the past 200 years conveniently after industrial revolution
@Fuck Google When people speak of climate change they are usually speaking of man made climate change, but you already knew that, you're just being arrogant. Think reducing co2 is a bad idea? Say that then. Think pollution is fine? Say that then.
"Why does a fire in Dreanor in the past teleport you to Pandaria in the present? No clue"
Hmmm, yeah, they should've called that island "timeless" or something...
That explains how, but not the “why”
It was explained in a book that released tie WoD in and is a cool trick you can do to skip the intro quests to WoD
I'd be impressed if anyone but me ever experienced this; but right around Cata launch when they revamped the zones there was a quest in Winterspring where you'd be captured by yetis and made to hang from the ceiling like Luke in Empire Strikes Back. They gave you an ability to break free, however at the time I had to go AFK so I logged out while hanging. When I logged back in, I noticed I was free from the ceiling. Instantly I started to try to kill yetis, but they all for some strange reason were locked in an "Evade" state. I kept trying to kill mobs, and in my confusion I opened up a ticket and started exploring the world.
I went to an Alliance town and attacked the Flight Master, and to my surprise I could spawn Hippogryphs constantly due to him bugging out and constantly re-aggroing. I managed to find a player, and started attacking him. Since players lack Evade mechanics, the players would be taking damage but wouldn't notice me. Evidently, I was invisible and invincible to all players and NPCs in the game world. The ticket remained active, and I went to Hellfire Peninsula and started attacking random players and NPC's in Honor Hold. It was hysterical watching players scramble about not realizing what was happening.
This all culminated in me queuing up for a battleground and holding the Lumber Mill in Arathi Basin; there would be 10+ players all camping the mill and running in circles AoEing in a futile attempt to damage the invisible force that was killing everyone around them. This however, got the GM's attention. I was pulled out and put in a GM sleep/stasis mode, where I told them what happened. The next day I logged in and had a bonus level and a Burning Crusade collectors edition pet in my mailbox. I guess he was grateful I didn't tell internet forums and cause a mass crisis for a few hours before they hotfixed it. Was one of my favorite experiences in WoW.
I love MMOs because of stories like this. It’s really fun to see people baisiy living different lives and making precious memories in a digital world of human making.
I appreciate you for sharing this story mayn.
Cool story
Ya, that didn't happen, loser.
Yea this is what I expected in an iceberg.
Most are just made by 12 year Olds about something they enjoy.
It isnt really unknown experiences.
That DM talking about Woo Ping I think wins the epic kayfabe award. It also may have been Chris Metzen in disguise.
Agreed. It makes me sad GMs don't connect with players like they used to. I understand being busy and all, but it doesn't feel very human these days. This story was cute and made me smile; I hope they made his story canon! Lol
>The story of Woo Ping
Everyone liked that.
Wonder if he's somewhere in Maldraxxus... or maybe the Dragon Isles.
I barely played WoW, but somehow I actually know what “Kilar’s Fingers” is referencing. So, way back in the day, when the tv show “Cheat” on G4 had its episode on WoW, they showed an out of bounds glitch, where they entered into an area that was a long expansive plane, with some strange polygonal geometry scattered about. I for some reason remember them pointing out a row of five random cones in this out for bounds territory and commenting “players have dubbed this landmark, ‘Kilar’s Fingers’,” or something to that affect. It’s a totally obscure reference, but it’s oddly one of the few that I actually think I may have known.
Same actually
The Pandaren Xpress thing is a joke about how EverQuest 2 had an in-game command to order pizza delivery IRL
Holy crap, you weren't kidding.
oh man, i remember when playing EQ2 when they announced that, fun times
It was something put in during development for the convenience of the programmers working on the game; it was supposed to be removed before the game went live. But someone forgot to remove it, and eventually the players found out that the "/pizza" command would open up an online menu for Pizza Hut. They decided to make it a promotion with Pizza Hut for a while, but eventually removed it. Blizzard's "Pandaren Express" was a direct parody of this.
26:55 Otherworld, you say? I'm Nachtsuchen of the Order of the Hidden Eye, and a friend of mine linked me your video earlier today. I hadn't seen the Reddit post related to this iceberg of mysteries picture until seeing your video, and noticed Otherworld mentioned on it. As there was some trouble from finding out about Otherworld, I figured the least I could do was comment for clarity. It would be disingenuous of me to claim I was the one who discovered Otherworld, as the phenomena happened very sporadically to random others prior to, but I am the one who gave it the name and documented it most thoroughly at the time. To explain, however, we must wind our clocks back to the early years of the Burning Crusade...
My friend and I, Blackflame, had been avid fans of exploration. There wasn't very much he or I hadn't seen. Most of our time, we spent our days going to and from place to place, climbing mountains for the sheer sport of it (as this was during the days before Wall Jumping was removed). During one particular day, as we were traveling from Wetlands to Theramore, I was standing on the box that allowed you to remain mounted when I disconnected during the loading screen. What occurred was my character being able to run at Epic Mount speed without being mounted while also being able to attack. We were thrilled, having found a new glitch in the game, and sought to recreate this over in the Barrens. Instead, we were met with something far, far different: Otherworld. It was from this discovery that we founded the Order of the Hidden Eye, an exploration community that spanned across countless countries and servers and comprised of thousands of members.
Using a macro we coined the "Disconnect Macro" (which was just a macro used to attempt to color your in-game chat text and then speak, which caused you to crash on Retail servers instead of Private servers), I was able to force myself to disconnect to the login screen after loading between continents had finished. Rather than find myself no longer on my mount, I found myself no longer on my same plane of existence. Rather than arriving to Ratchet, I was met with falling below the earth. Rather than appear at the graveyard, I fell briefly again in front of the Horde area in Arathi Highlands. Absolutely befuddled, I meandered around in this bizarre reflection of the normal world. While everything seemed similar on the surface, I noticed how every player and NPC were floating above my head. As I tried to approach them from a higher angle, my friend exclaimed in astonishment when I was running through the air from his perspective. To him, and all others, I was phasing through terrain, floating through the air and wafting above the abyss beneath the terrain. Considering I was both in the world beside him and, yet, somewhere other than there, we dubbed the discovery "Otherworld". Little to he and I's knowledge is, at the time, there was an even deeper reason for this place existing.
My true technological and historical understanding is hazy at best, though I do know many of my compatriots within the Exploration Community have since come to understand my own discovery better than I. My own understanding, to be open to its own clarification, is thus: During the earliest days of World of Warcraft, there was yet-another glitch that caused players to fall beneath the 0, 0, 0 XYZ location of the zone they were loading from when attempting to zone into another instance. Players attempting to enter Ahn'Qiraj found themselves falling beneath the world of Stonetalon Mountains and dying, while other players in Eastern Kingdoms fell and died beneath Alterac Mountains. Blizzard, in an attempt to fix this problem, created what I dub the "XYZ Boats" -- a Zepplin and a Boat, respectively in Stonetalon Mountains and Alterac Mountains, at these locations. The reason for being boats, in particular, is because they act as instances within instances themselves (again, to my loose interpretation of game mechanics), and served as an intermediary for players loading between zones. They helped the game servers reference the player's location and kept them from falling through the world during the loading process. This largely seemed to fix the problem, but created a very rare and specific glitch. However, because the Otherworld phenomena was so specific, or without knowing of it, the glitch of Otherworld remained. It was largely kept a secret between those within the Order of the Hidden Eye and close friends, as it was deemed far too potentially exploitable in terms of malicious use by the masses (as it was the mission of the OotHE to find glitches and exploits, and to suppress and protect potentially harmful and rare secrets while sharing exploration that could be enjoyed by all). Eventually, it was shared to a website called Ownedcore (formerly MMOwned) with eyes to observe public development of its use.
Otherworld was used largely as a transitory glitch, allowing players to go from mundane regions to regions previously difficult or impossible to reach, now with relative ease. At its core, Otherworld was a "map swap" exploit that achieved the same effect as hacking game files to swap maps (but without tampering with game files), making it a much more favorable alternative. Ironically, it was thanks to Otherworld that the location of the XYZ Boats, and their purpose, was discovered. Blizzard eventually patched the Otherworld glitch some time during Wrath of the Lich King with an updated method for tracking player position (which itself lead to more glitches, naturally); this did not stop players, as an "Otherworld Hack" was developed strictly to emulate the mechanics of Otherworld. Eventually, a permutation of the glitch was discovered and dubbed "Secondworld", which allowed very specific and previously-thought lost locations (such as GM Island) to be accessed. It's to my understanding that the GM Island Raid mentioned during 23:40 and was possible largely because of this. Members of the Exploration Community (love ya bud, Dovah) placed Warlocks on GM Island, thanks to the Otherworld permutation, Secondworld, to summon a full raid of forty explorers to spend a day on the island one last time before it was removed from Retail (and Classic) forever. Thankfully, this event was recorded from multiple perspectives (and is available in its entirety for viewing on my own channel).
It is one more amusing thing to mention, as well, that Otherworld was not actually possible to explore on Private servers (to my knowledge), as the mechanics of Private servers function differently than Retail servers. Other fun details to note include but are not limited to: Being able to attack and interact with NPCs, players and objects like chests, from above and below the terrain. For a time, touching water within Otherworld caused you to disconnect to the login screen, which made travel within Otherworld very tricky, as disconnecting would return you to the real world (and sometimes plummeting back down to earth or into the abyss, depending on your location in relation to the real world). You experienced the effects of being under water in terms of breath and Fatigue as well, but could "run" through water in respect to your location in the real world. Mind Controlling players while in Otherworld would cause them to fall through the terrain; this could be used to startle the hell out of them by momentarily phasing them under the world to show them you were watching before returning them safely on their surface. Objects that did exist in the real world did not exist in Otherworld, meaning you could have empty interiors that previously would be populated with things like chairs, doors, etc. This includes NPCs native to the area. This is how Swifty, myself and a few others took some fun screenshots on the Stormwind and Ironforge thrones free from obstructions. A raid was also conducted on Orgrimmar, where dozens of members and guests of the Order of the Hidden Eye flew above Orgrimmar to dazzle spectators below.
Your video was a lot of fun, though I do believe the image of the iceberg has a bit of detail in need of refining and changing around in terms of depth. There's certainly much more that could be added as well, from the mundane "HELP" and "PLEH" messages atop mountains, to things such as "Old Deadwinds Pass", and beyond. While I no longer play World of Warcraft anymore, discussion of its secrets will always fascinate me. It brings me great joy to see people take an interest in exploration, even in the year of 2020. Thank you for the big smile you've put on my face. And to those who read this insanely-long post, cheers!
Holy shit, dude! This is incredible!
Stuff like this has always drawn my attention. I love the secrets and mysteries of games and real life alike, and I was raised on WoW. To read about something so distant and vague to me from the perspective of someone who witnessed it all firsthand is a gift.
Fascinating to read, thanks for sharing.
awesome to read this history. been on mmowned since the first year they started and remember when this was posted for the first time.
mhmm yeah you got it
Dude this is amazing! My friend and I loved exploring back in the day. Swimming all the way around the continents, trying to find a way into the unfinished areas at 3am together is one of my favorite memories from my teens!
"WKM Room" at 14:15 is a reference to "William Kenneth Max" the father of WoW 3D artists "Chad Max". He apparently helped redesign Orgrimmar for Cataclysm.
"Chad Max"
@@MrRedpanda2442 the ultimate nemesis of all fedora wearing neckbeards
"Ladies and Gentlemen its the Chad in the butt, yeah Chad to the Max!"
I remember that it was for someone's initials but couldn't remember the name! Thanks.
@@MrRedpanda2442 I mean new Orgrimmar is pretty Chad
The Karazhan Crypts are actually explained in lore. Back when Medivh was still alive and possessed by Sargeras he built a secret underground section to Karazhan that was basically the same spire, but mirrored into the depths and depraved and twisted. Instead of normal library you had library full of books on demonology and other evil arts. There were operation theatres, dungeons and fel hound pens. With Sargeras' study at the very bottom.
Thank you for teaching me something today!
@@OokamiToKoushinryou It's in the original books, I haven't read them in a while but I think the order is:
Rise of the Horde
Last Guardian
Tides of Darkness
Day of the Dragon (only semi-relevant, mostly follows Ronin and Krasus arc)
Keep in mind that some of these books are almost 20 year old and the current lore might heavily modify or retcon what's in them.
Please let this be 9.2 story critical.
@@deosdoesvideos Honestly it's highly unlikely it will be considering they used the crypts not only for Legion artifacts but also the Lucid Nightmare puzzle.
that sounds like some "satanic inversion"-esque stuff, cool to see this concept in wow
Learned a lot about Kanye today.
You know, I figured by now I'd hate these iceberg meme videos for being forced or something, but they're a surprisingly efficient way of learning a whole bunch of history about each game or series they cover. I really like them.
They prob don't feel overdone because they're all made by different people
6:12 John Staats, the 3D artist who made the area, said that it was just a movie reference that never really amounted to anything because during the development of classic they made too much stuff and never populated the area.
8:26 It's a reference to a developer's child named Andre who was 5 at the time.
13:59 WKM is most likely another reference "William Kenneth Max" the father of Chad Max, a 3d designer who helped redesign Org.
15:00 It is said that this was meant to be the way people would access draenor before they changed the story to using the dark portal, Chris Metzen and Christie Golden spoke about this.
19:51 I am not sure if they are talking about the Deadmines Outland "experimental zone" or ruclips.net/video/_byHjhTzfSg/видео.html
20:38 The accessories, zones, and raid were not "leaked" they were talked about extensively during the developer panels at blizzcon 2013. Most were removed due to time constraints, story reworks, and the expansion not being popular. The decision was made to pull the plug and move on to legion.
23:40 The GM island raid happened the night before GM island was removed from the game in patch 8.2. It was lead by Dovah The Explorer. ruclips.net/video/GtqQt-C5ekM/видео.html
26:55 Otherworld glitch is when the client and server desync and you're placed in the wrong map while the server believes you are somewhere else. This was real and in the game for a very short period of time found by the MMOwned forum. Example: ruclips.net/video/TGcOAcCQ4ik/видео.html
27:17 Crabby is an altered form of Greg "Ghostcrawler" Street's developer icon. They gave it googly eyes and made it part of the bnet client and website for a short period of time as an "OOPS 404" error.
29:05 You were able to make dwarf mages back in alpha, hence why it's in the manual.
32:32 If you place a Blingtron of different models together they will fight.
That's some good information!
Thanks for clarification on the Old Outlands detail! To expand on what you mentioned to other readers, while colloquially referenced as "Old Outlands", many folks in the Exploration Community reference it as the "Deadmines Secret" as to avoid confusion with the actual Old Outlands that you point out. What's more curious, in my opinion, is what came first. And why does the Deadmines Secret exist when Old Outlands also exists?
I've always felt like a brainlet because I never truly understand the technical nuances of Otherworld. I feel almost silly for not being as familiar with it as I should. Lol And that raid was a lot of fun. I wonder if anyone at Blizzard still talks about it. It's also nice to see someone else still refer to Ownedcore as MMOwned. Blessed fellow old guard. xD
@@OokamiToKoushinryou Old guard indeed, hehe. I didn't participate in the raid myself but I remember people telling me it was one heck of a night~, I'm fairly certain that the deadmines area came first during alpha and Old Outland was added during beta. I did do a check on this with the pre-launch clients many years ago and that's how I remember it. They were probably worked on by different environmental artists at different times, seeing as deadmines is one of the oldest instances that was designed before the swapping of their internal tools.
Don't worry about the technical details for otherworld, just know that it's all about client-server desync. It happens when there is no safeguard for it on the server side hence why it only existed for a short time. Blizzard gets wise to these types of exploits fairly quickly. 😢
@@maliciousfry Oh God yeah, the raid was wildly hilarious. We were all doing roleplay and gaffing around. At one point, we did form a circle around The Chair to honor Hayven and the other explorers who had passed who couldn't be with us. Eventually near the end, a GM (while not visible) started banning people one by one. People on temporary throw-away Trial accounts received perma-bans and people on actual accounts only received a few days ban. Thankfully a good handful of us were spared of that. Luckily, I was one of the last people on the island and somehow evaded a ban, myself. It was tons of fun. It still boggles my mind why they felt the need to remove it, and from Classic too, no less (even if it's not the version you could swim to).
For Otherworld, my friend and I actually discovered it well early on during Burning Crusade, but we were particularly worried how people might misuse it. We figured it was something integral to how server-stuff worked at least, so we figured it'd be around for a good while, but also didn't want to expedite it being fixed, too. Everyone in the Order of the Hidden Eye kept fairly hush on it, which is amusing because registration to the group was open-ended. It was eventually released publicly by a member as late as it was because we figured if anyone had ill intentions for misusing the glitch, they would have at that point. The guy was kind enough to ask in advance, thankfully. And thusly like you mention, it was relatively patched shortly after then. Though, it did stick around for almost two whole expansions after being discovered (where it existed even well before then during the end of Vanilla), which was fun. I'd definitely noticed by Cataclysm, Blizzard seemed fairly on the ball with keeping their eyes on things. Thankfully, people still seem to be as crafty as ever. Lol
@@OokamiToKoushinryou I can explain why GM Island was removed, the software that customer service used was no longer linked to a character needing to be logged into each server (due to the xrealm communication tech the developers were implementing through bnet) so the area was no longer being used as a GM spawn point. That's why it was so hard for people to get an actual GM to come online.
I, honestly, didn't realize Otherworld was discovered so early on but it makes sense that it was probably in game even before launch.
Around the time of cata Blizzard was actively monitoring forums and known youtube exploit channels for things to fix - just like they monitor community channels like Archvaldor today. Anything that guy does gets hotfixed anytime he uploads.
The Virgin Deathwing vs Chad Ping
One person got Bengal Tiger from Blizzard trough make-a-wish fundation
Fun fact she is amara who added jenuffar and of course amaras wish to the game
Subtitles: *Spires of Iraq*
*SI7 HQ*
Mathias: Locals reported trucks loaded with weapons, we believe the arakkoa are planning to sell firearms to the forces of Gul'dan.
The Alliance has sent forces to re establish peace, but really, they just want their Shadowcore Oil
I used the Otherworld Glitch on live servers myself! It's where you got on a boat or zeppelin and used a disconnect macro, then you would load back into the game with the world/terrain assets from one continent and the mobs and objects and rules from another continent. So you could have giraffes from the Barrens walking in mid-air in Arathi Highlands, because The Barrens and Arathi are at the same coordinates on the two different continents. People commonly used this in WotLK to be able to fly in Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdoms before the Cataclysm revamp by loading the mobs and game rules from Northrend onto the other continents so that flying was allowed.
Later on, someone developed a hack which let you freely choose which continent servers you wanted to merge, and it included the server for the SECRET EMERALD DREAM continent, so you could load yourself into the most inaccessible area in WoW's history, the OLD EMERALD DREAM.
Your phrasing of "rules from another continent" I think very well explains things more than I've mentioned before, so I'll steal that turn of phrase! Lol To elaborate on your mentioning if I may: Those who were in the air on flying mounts could continue flying but couldn't activate flying if they weren't prior to entering Otherworld (unless my memory has just gotten that foggy these days). I remember distinctly making a video doing just that on Darkspear too, before I could afford a proper flying mount on my main character. Lmao That's also some pretty specific memory about the Otherworld Hack you mention, as even I forget about it occasionally. I need to dig up and see if it's still possible to download to my new PC, since I'd imagine it should still work on Private servers (since they're functionally the same in terms of infrastructure).
I'm very surprised the uploader didn't know this, it was a pretty common exploit, not something you can't figure out with a little googling
Im surprised "Old Ironforge" (not Alpha Ironforge) wasnt mentioned, also the Stormwind "Vault" and player housing portals. Those are also pretty popular "secrets", also Gunther Arcanus just to make Hiruma happy.
Agreed! The Stormwind Vaults even had a smidge of lore for it, to boot! It was said, while the Stormwind Stockades held the most dangerous of mundane prisoners, the most magically powerful of foes were quietly detained within the Vaults. I suppose Blizzard felt it reflected and detracted from Dalaran's prison too much and scrapped the idea. That, and having two instances in a faction home would be unfair to the Horde, I suppose. Lol And yeah, Old Ironforge is such a classic.
Old Undercity as well
Don't forget that Dancing Troll Village was officially recruited into the Horde as part of the campaigns against the night elves in Cataclysm, and again in BFA. In fact, one of the Darkshore world quests for Alliance involves bombing the original dancing village.
Also, dwarf mages were playable in WoW beta, but the option was removed for "balance", as part of giving each faction the same number of race/class combos. The original Anvilmar mage trainer was a dwarf that was turned into a gnome after beta, which is why his primary character trait is drunkenness.
@@mercaius thats interesting. Btw, dwarf females have a physics on two or one particullar hairs when casting a spell (like heal) :D
I had the grand pleasure of leveling about 10 or so levels in the Dancing Troll Village as an Alliance (since you can farm them for their low health and low damage). I think their respawn rates are much faster on Private servers than Retail servers, but my memory is foggy.
Woo ping must return. I wish we could see him again
Fingers crossed we see him in Shadowlands, we need great heroes like him
Just login to Vanilla, he is there
@@ankxel1747 no hes not
@@jacobbrackett3568 of course he is
If woo ping ever returns the horde is doomed
12:55 imagine the amount of bread in the Chinese version
13:43 Bonus fact: they referenced this in the legion engineering questline, where you go to said village (which has been moved a bit further up but still deep underwater) to obtain a dead engineer's lost plans.
Those building assets were also I believe used in the Scepter of the Shifting Sands questline. Prior to Cataclysm they were an actual set of islands. They just submerged them.
@@jennywakeman5919 I recall swimming out to this same set of buildings underwater way back in Vanilla with a huge group of people; so while there might've been the islands you're referring to with similar (or perhaps even the same) assets somewhere, I can at least anecdotally confirm that the ones shown in the video have been at the bottom of the ocean since the beginning of the game.
Before then, the ocean floor was perfectly flat and the buildings were more populated (I think?). They rested just below the "Death Line", which was when you'd fallen / swam too deep below the world and died upon crossing the threshold. At one point, the Death Line didn't exist, and while your camera would remain stuck, your character could still move freely. Going inside the houses removed Breath and Fatigue (again, I think? I forget). They were located at the dead-center of the cardinal compass of Tanaris as an easter egg, too.Just as @Kóta says. ^^
Wasn't a chapter of Draconic for Dummies found in one of those buildings?
@@jennywakeman5919 Correct. It was part of the reason they removed the quest chain, as they wanted to destroy a bunch of the areas where the quests took place. The area now is definitely used for a Legion Engineering quest.
dam never going to forget Woo Ping now
In Elwynn Forest there is a quest at a farm that has you kill "Princess", a prize winning pig, that has been eating the farm's crops. Later you pick up a WANTED quest for James Clark.
He is wanted for robbery, burglary, arson, and murder. He is also a suspect in the kidnapping and disappearance of the prized pig, Princess.
When you get to Jame, he is chillin at a nice little house in Eastvale Logging Camp. There are two little boys with him.
The quest has you kill him and cut his head off... In front of the kids...
He is tied to other quests that show the wrong doings of Stormwind government, so the fact that he is accused of all these bad things AND someone used him to cover up what YOU did... Makes me think, amonst other things, that some pretty high/shady people are always watching your back.
As RP I never do that quest on my Paladins or Priest (good) characters.
23:40 Actually the burning version with the dancing wow devs is in a big lake near Dire Maul I think. It's a reference to the original GM island.
Also the stag stacking made its way into the game after it was sadly patched as a toy.
Rogue "swirly ball" not only made it back into the game, but is used to obtain a secret rogue-only class item that is *very fun.*
@ swirly bag of coins I believe
"ay cee eye eye eye"
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD MAN IT'S PRONOUNCED *ASKY*
I was thinking the same!
I've been watching other iceberg videos the last few days and thought "Hey, maybe theres a wow iceberg?" and I'm glad I found this.
Very well made, keep up the good work ;)
From what I recall, cave with the dragon in it and the Tauren Village used to be where all new players were initially loaded in before being distributed to their respective starting zones. Every now and then if they were laggy enough and you happened to be out there, you could see a level 1 from random races briefly load in and then vanish. It's interesting to peel back the curtain and see how things worked back-stage.
That is cool
That was newman’s landing which is up the coast of westfall
@@legacy9171 I think they had one for both Kalimdor and for Eastern Kingdoms, since it'd be easier to load in a new character and send them along if it started off on the right continent.
@@WitchyThyme The devs have actually confirmed that there is no spot in the world where new characters "initially spawn before going to their starting zones" and that Newman's Landing was just a random easter egg. People claiming they saw lvl ones spawning then disappearing are likely misremembering based on misinformation from other players as the WOW devs have gone on record that there's no such place in the game.
@@samantharedacted9226 Could you give me the sources for that if possible? 'Cause while I will take word-of-god on this and accept a dev answer if it can be provided, but I do want to see where the devs say this because it goes directly against my experiences. I am a roleplayer, and those spots were popular for parties or d20 style events because they were harder to grief due to being harder to reach. So, I could see players briefly spawning in and vanishing. It was literally a 1-frame blink and you miss it thing, too quick to see if they had gear or not. So could the other people with me, too. It stopped doing that after cata, which is when they did a lot of upgrades to their systems and changed the world a lot. They might have been able to change how they spawned players, given how far programming had come in that time- it is an old game, bleeding-edge for its time.
I remember joining the game during the "Night Elf Mohawk" event. I just remember being a confused teen with a female night elf druid that had Mr. T's head, and I didn't know you could right click the spell off of you so yeah...That was a really weird way to start off on
I think I heard somewhere that the sleeping dragon in the cave at the tauren village behind silithus was dedicated to a kid that passed away, I think he was the kid of one of the developers.
"other world" sounds a lot like a bug that was in vanilla and again in WOTLK. You swap continents but keep NPC's from the other continent. So Going from eastern kingdoms to kalimdor with all eastern kingdom npcs or vice versa. In wotlk it was exploit able again and you could get northrend with eastern kingdom npcs for example.
I'm also pretty sure that's what this is referring to. I don't remember it being as late as WotLK, but I could be misremembering. Wish I could find the video of it. It's happened to me before but there's no way my rig at the time would have run recording software.
You'd be correct! As I referenced in another post, it was a consequence to a response with fixing a problem with players' characters falling beneath the world and dying when trying to zone into instances, if I remember my history correctly. It'd been around from Vanilla to some time during Wrath of the Lich King, but we tried to be as quiet after finding out about it during Burning Crusade. We were worried people'd exploit it too much and it'd either get patched before people could enjoy it, or it'd cause too much mayhem in the game across servers if used inappropriately. It even went to lead into a variant folks called "Secondworld", which was an even more elaborate version of the glitch.
@@kaeleklund6728 Yeah, it tended to happen more often during Vanilla and usually only happened when very intentionally invoked during Burning Crusade into Wrath of the Lich King. We've some videos on it in our channel, if you'd like to see and feel some nostalgia. Lol I used it fairly liberally during my "Exploration: The Second Generation" videos.
I'm actually surprised that pretty much everything from the old map has made it into the game at this point. They crunched it down so that they would literally have decades of content. That's some legendary patience on their part.
They just decided to link every piece of cut and unfinished content and even throwaway things together when making Legion. There were no patience involved. Completely different people worked on Vanilla and Legion
Going into "deep waters" while the Amaurot theme plays?
Pure perfection. Kudos, my dude.
Was about to comment this. Excellent choice of BGM there... even if it brings up a sort of PTSD.
34:00 I always thought that winterspring-esque zone was just the place they shot the little cinematic of Kel'thuzad in human form talking a bunch of edgy shit, RPing walking through the snow.
this sure comes to mind. i always thought this was the backdrop they used in the original naxx as the backdrop for the portals that the anubarak-esque mobs (Guardian of Icecrown) would spawn out of during the encounter. if you look at these portals, you can see the winterspring like astetic. i'm sure they just used the same asses to have a nice scene for the cinematic aswell.
@@Anotherwhitemage Made it to KT on pserver but wiped at 6% and quit lol, I think you're totally right about that being the backdrop for the add portals.
Love how the point of these icebergs are that the entries on the bottom have hidden meanings or things that only a few people know about, yet every single iceberg explained video just ends up being "umm, yeah it exists, idk why it's here". Like wow, thanks dude, this is exactly why I came here.
Just watched the entirety of this while playing on the side. Great video man, keep at it!
I'm kind of surprised no one has yet mentioned the gray sword you could loot off a mob below WOTLK Naxxramas, that in the very beginning of wotlk had no level requirement on it. I recall getting duelled and one shot by lvl 1s
19:33 The Tempest ffxiv Ost, Final Zone in Shadowbringers. Nice touch sir.
An amazing piece of music and something I didn't expect in a WoW video :D
I immediately recognized when it played. Truly is a beautiful piece of music.
26:42
The faceswap bug actually existed all the way back into vanilla.
I experienced it myself, it freaked me the hell out since I was a young child.
Imagine playing wow since 2005 and never even once opening yogg sarons puzzle box
what about the smiley face below karazhan tower painted on the ground that got fixed so you can no longer enter there
Dude I find it hilarious you were watching the Real Time Fandub of Sonic Adventure 2. How has no one else mentioned this?!
Eggman's piss drrrrrrrroptlets hit them before they could mention it
Super interesting video! Honestly went in expecting to know most of it, but there were certainly some surprises. Keep up the good work!
Cleaner only spawns for the priest quest. Demons just despawned if you had help
Old outlands refers to the pre-tbc hellfire peninsula located in the game's files
The GM Island room underneath with the white chair is said to be the place they would teleport a player to to question them. Like an interrogation room, pretty cool idea!
42:39 spirit cauldron had collision on release, and could be stacked ontop of eachother. Players would use them for trolling by blocking entrances through doors, or less common, to create height and line of sight blockers in raids to ignore boss mechanics.
was hoping one of these would be made for wow, awesome video man this is great
I love this kind of videos so much, great work man!
I'm so glad you used the Vajir music for the bottom of the iceberg. 10/10 choice
Actually you can access the uninstanced version of Stratholme simply by flying over the Scarlet Monastery in BFA Tirisfal Glades and following the shoreline closely, eventually you'll run into the old version of Quel'Thalas, from there you need to ride uphill (for some reason using a flying mount in this area is detrimental, as you will eventually be dismounted mid-air.), you'll reach a pleateu from which you can wiggle your way in to the back of the uninstanced instance.
10:26 karatechop didn't get the item from blizzard, his guild mate got it, and then sent it to karatechop
Great video dude!
i love watching these iceberg videos for games so seeing one for wow is pretty cool.
“why? i don’t know” thanks for the informative video
So many of these are further down the iceberg than they ought to be. Quite a few in Tier 2 and beyond should be in the first tier.
Okay, but why on earth did you NOT include the rogue's ability to become defias in OG/beta WoW???
i love coming back here every 6 months
The only thing I can come up with for secret worgen customizations is the npc customizations that weren't in the barber shop or character creator until Shadowlands, but existed before then. All they were were three facial hair/ear customizations that you could see on npcs from time to time. I always found these a little unique compared to other npc customizations because they were never shown on sites or servers that allowed npc customizations.
Yeah but what about the Mew under the truck outside stormwind?
really enjoyed it! would love to see an updated version
That sweet Stickerbrush Symphony at the beginning ❤
Andrestrasz is still in-game, in his cave, and was almost certainly named after a Blizz employees kid. The Tauren village is definitely gone though.
The Utgarde keep instanced summoning stone reminds me of when I was exploring the End Time dungeon and found an instanced version of the Azjol-Nerub summoning stone
I was wondering when someone was gonna do this one. Good job :D
...the Linken quest line wasn't just for "Funzy's" back in the day it was the only way Paladin's could pull mobs when they were tanking by getting the "Boomerang". The WKM room is named such due to a plaque on the wall of the room with the letters WKM inscribed upon it. The lead designer on the Orgrimmar redesign project was a Blizzard developer named Chad Max, and the WKM room serves as a memorial to his father, William Kenneth Max. Absolutely the best Toyota commercial eva :) and on my hunter I have a Slime pet and a wolf with a sword though him but I'm afraid to summon either of them in case they get removed.
A good video to watch while procrastinating on my grinding
ok the spirit healer whispering "give us your money" made me laugh. Well played blizzard
I haven't watched the video yet, but I hope the quest to kill 255 chickens on GM island is on it. I was proud to have it and share it back in the day, it's been gone for a while. I haven't encountered a lot of people who knew about it.
Kind of proud and disappointed that I know almost all of these.
There really is such an obscene amount of wildly complicated and mysterious details that the list could easily extend downward to the ocean floor, Marianas Trench and even Challenger Deep. Lmao Hyjal Green Fire? Sargath crystal? Developer's Island? Guardian of Blizzard? God, I'd love to see the infographic updated!
I was wandering around the comments and found someone talkinh about de killar fingers and talking about drakunia fingers, i go the the video and there's a comment from you 7 years ago. No wonder you know all these, you've been there lol
I loved the video! Some of the stuff I didn't know about, hope to see more content in the future. Would be cool to see a FFXIV Iceberg.
Damn, dude. Quality content. Subbed and all that stuff.
I was able to get into uninstanced strath with the venthyr covenant ability in shadowlands! everything still looks exactly the same and you could see the giant untextured naxx. also, inside of strath, your local defense and general chats are often set to be inside quel’thalas, and thus you can communicate with players from a completely different zone.
Good video! Love that you used the Amaurot theme :D
Gotta smile at the legend that is the night elf mohawk. That commerical is what got me to start playing WoW
Gotta appreciate the Amaurot music. Awesome video!
I love the lake hylia music one of my favs Amazing vid Btw
i always heard "give us your money" rather than "it's not that much money"
That creeped me out so bad 🤣
This deserves more attention
There’s a much easier way to get to the uninstanced version of Stratholme/untextured Naxx. Just go to the main entrance, enter and exit the instance portal while resetting instance each time, then simply walk in once your resets are capped. You can also get into Quelthalas this way
right but that dosent make as good a video
So good video. Wish your newer vids were this high quality entertainment! I still sub
Dwarven Farm is actually used for the Waist of Time secret. The last couple steps involve you doing random shit on this farm.
That's awesome to hear.
as an xiv player who's never played wow but loves the lore... theres nothing quite like the whiplash of hearing the amaurot theme out of nowhere lmao. great vid!
About 3d posing armory: you could at one time actually get a 3d print of your character from Blizzard.
You can still get them, just not from blizzard
I actually bought one of the 3d models for my buddy/roommate's character several years back. It came out better than I thought and I wish I'd got more before they stopped.
Dude this is such a DANK video broooooo
I couldn't stop it as soon as I started. Bravo.
Such a cool video idea + great execution :)
The Amaurot theme fits SO nicely into it, loved it
A few things this iceberg didn't have that I know off the top of my head, back from when I was big on the exploration scene (mostly in classic)
Statue of Liberty/Blizard Construction Zone: A few places throughout the world if you glitched into them using wall running would have little fenced off "construction zone" signs. You could also view them by chaining together far sight or the hunter equivalent. One such spot also contained a sunken statue of liberty in reference to planet of the apes
Draconic/Titan Language Learning: Random players (mostly rogues) were able to suddenly learn how to speak either the titan language or draconic. Blizzard reps on the forums mentioned it was for some upcoming event (presumably Cata) but as far as I know it never really panned out and to this day is one of the only instances (if not the only) of players actually learning a new language. This also had the side effect of certain NPC dialoague previously unknown to players becoming translatable.
Alpha Testing reference in DK starting area: In the instanced version of the death knight starting zone there's a small book in the center of the necropolis on the floor. It mentions the valiant effort of two death knights and mentions them by name. These are references to two players during alpha testing who helped find and test bugs with the class and were active on the alpha-only testing forum to the expansion.
Nice vid! You can actually still access Quel'Thalas by getting behind Stratholme.
The uninstanced version of Stratholme also exists in the world map, and you need to get into it to access Quel'Thalas. The untextured necropolis is there as well.
The winterspring looking zone is actually supposed to be northrend from vanilla
Yeah thats why you can see the zone behind the portals that the undead come through in P1 of the KT encounter
in September of 2020 a former senior artist at Blizzard Entertainment, Chad Max, stepped forward. Chad had been the developer in charge of the Orgrimmar redesign during Cataclysm, and had added the room as a memorial to his father, William Kenneth Max.
Ohoho, nice use of the XIV tempest theme (amaurot), it's an excellent song
when my man starts off his video with the donkey kong soundtrack, I know it's gonna be a cozy time
this is *LEGENDARY*
I wasn't expecting to hear Amaurot theme here.
Now the sleeping dragon is the one who gives you your dragon-flying mount! I like the continuity they have
If you fly straight through the burned area on the new Tirisfal Glades map and turn right when you are over the sea, you will pass the invisible barrier that exists there. If you continue along the coast in an easterly direction, you will eventually reach that location on the map just behind the entrance to Strathholme. It is possible to explore the place. I did it in 2020 and it is still possible to do it.
Care must be taken not to die from the debuf that is applied when you are very far from the coast. It is obviously much easier to do using a druid.
Other World glitch might be the one even I experienced, and posted in the forums about, where, if you loaded before the world did, you'd fall and fall, and end up in a weird zone under the one you were supposed to be, usually bad textured and mountain-ish, but, you could still see the players above of where you were supposed to be, in front of you, but no npcs, and they couldn't see you, as you were, well, very, very down below. As far as I know, this only happened during WotLK.
You'd be correct -- that's definitely what you witnessed! Lol Though it was popularized during WotLK, it was formally discovered and coined during the Burning Crusade. Even then, it had existed since a point during Vanilla and, while having been mostly patched near the end of WotLK, many players still experienced it sporadically up into Warlords of Draenor. A glitch based off it, Secondworld, even may function to this day (though I'm not 100% on that much).