I think Brian was spot on about AJ doing the kids a favour. He highly doubt he was ever actually going to hit them. But they still learned that these people are real, and there are still consequences for saying stuff online.
The depressing thing about this case is that if Johnny Depp was an average guy who worked in a garage he wouldn't have a hope in hell of winning this case.
@joe He had largely the same evidence in the UK, and lost. Now we can see how much the evidence is in his favor, and he still might lose. Justice is far from certain, no matter the evidence.
@@Alice-cp9sy Yes, it's a defamation case. So what? Everyone knows that if Johnny is "cleared", at least in the eyes of the public, of the allegations of abuse, then the outcome of the defamation case is secondary. Even Johnny said he was there to clear his name.
The idea that someone can be accused of something with no evidence, nor a pathway back to acceptance in society is something I'm sure we all feel on some level. Truth is important, justice is vital, but knowingly false accusations are something which will hurt men and women alike; men will not defend women from harm if they are worried about accusations for doing so; women will not provide the balance to men that we need if they believe themselves to constantly be in danger from all men. We all need each other, and we need truth and honesty to form the basis of all our relationships. Thank you for this conversation, gents, truly important in today's world.
I get what he was trying to get at but, I agree. The photos of Rihanna's bashed-in face will forever haunt me...Chris Brown has continuously proven that he's a violent guy too...
@@dogsarethebe5t Absolutely! Rihanna’s beaten face is hard to forget and he will forever be associated with domestic violence. It isn’t hard for people to be convinced that he is also capable of sexual assault, too. That in itself is wrong, but he is a victim of his own making.
All you will ever know is what you've been told or presented with unless you were there, so take heed, this world is a circus full of clowns, puppets and actors of all kinds.... Never forget that much...
Personally, I believe Johnny Depp, however, I think the other comparisons are problematic. I believe Johnny Depp was abused by amber heard because there is a lot of evidence. I don’t have an opinion on McGregor as I don’t know evidence. Ronaldo there is compelling evidence against him. So think throwing all three cases together is wrong
Interesting chat, I have to say that the comparisons Brian bought up are kinda weird. Like theres a whole lot of evidence against Chris Brown and Ronaldo doing wrong against women. Not a criticism of the overall video. If anything the inclusion of these examples detract from the argument in support of Johnny Depp.
Yeah I thought it was a very bizarre example that made it sound like he thought women were generally lying and men should be trusted. Those are the last people to be bringing up. Surprised he didn’t bring up Bill Crosby since he was freed 😂 still love Brian though
This one. I hope the boys look back on this one. To reference and compare the police officer murdering a woman and the attached backlash to men in DA relationships not speaking up was bizarre. As mentioned, there was plenty of evidence against Chris, and there was Ronaldo’s statement on what he had done or felt he had done. This court case has been bizarre throughout, and I’m left thinking this was a stinking relationship both parties didn’t want to be in but also didn’t feel the need to leave. What I would say is what if even a small part of what she’s accused him of is actually true? What if the person people are saying is a terrible actress, and the person people are saying is a world class actor are exactly that..?
I'm a female who has been Abused an I never believed she was telling the truth. She's so aggressive with JD you can tell he's definitely not a Man she's afraid of. You don't hit or yell at your ABUSER, it wouldn't of ended well for her. Thank God the Jury made the right decision.
Met Lawrence the other day at the Liverpool parade and had a good conversation with him. Really nice guy and I'm glad all his efforts are paying off now these guys deserve all the success they get, they work really hard for it 👍
If there's anything I've learnt through watching this trial religiously... it's that court is actually really fucking boring. And that's with a high profile case! The amount of objections, calls for speculation, no foundation, hear say etc. Exhausting. It's a no from me. Oh and Amber's lying for sure x
Nah the majority of woman I've seen including myself that have been abused are supporting johhny because we know what real abuse looks like. The belive all women thing angers me!. We shouldn't belive all anyone we should take any accusations seriously and review the evidence case by case. End of story.
I'm pretty sure the believe all women thing mainly means don't attack the accuser just because they might be making it up because if they actually are the victim it's a terrible thing to do
Something which didn’t sit right with me is that amber’s lawyer Ben Rottenborn (a good lawyer by the way, best on her side) said that Johnny depp calling amber a fat and a bitch etcetera when they are in arguments, was worse than when he was called ‘one eye’ when he was a child. The level of psychological effect is not the same at all, 11-13 year old having an abusive mother you would call him names because he had to wear an eye patch. It’s not a major thing but it just stuck with me.
Rottenborn is indeed a great lawyer, but the worst thing he said in the closing arguments was saying Depp smashing the cabinets IS domestic abuse, using that as THE evidence that confirmed Depp to be an abuser. My dad used to get drunk and smash everything, but never did he once touch my mother, me or any of my siblings. I watched the trial and there is not a single piece of CLEAR evidence indicating that Johnny Depp is an abuser.
@@Godotlv5000 I didn’t see that part of his closing argument as I saw most of all of it in parts, but if that’s what he said then he is reaching. Stuff he probably bought is stuff he can break if he wants 😀. The reason why what I said in the original post is important is they are going to try and use the psychological/verbal abuse argument so they don’t need to prove the physical abuse. I don’t like that, because 1. I don’t see two couples arguing and calling each other names (albeit toxic) not really abuse, 2. She says in the op Ed that he physically abused her so I don’t think trying to evidence verbal abuse is enough. Lawyers job is to do whatever they can to get the win. It’s what their job is and we all would want a lawyer that does that. But if breaking cabinets = domestic abuse/violence then they are scraping the bottom of the barrel
Is this a joke? Talking about how you want to rape a woman's dead body is obviously more grotesque than 'one-eye' and the fact that you people think differently is only evidence of disregard for female humanity.
1:10:02 - Here's something really awesome I've learned how to do as an adult: I can hear a joke that isn't funny to me; I can hear a joke that offends me, and I silently say to myself, _"I'm going to let that slide - because it's not intended as an exclusionary, or belittling, 'eff you' to anyone,"_ and then I forget about it when the bit is over! 🤘🏻 Life is great when you approach it with maturity & understanding!
The most hysterical part of Amber during this whole scenario is just the level of bad acting she's doing that makes you question how she's an actor in the first place. She's been seen pretending to write notes then smirking at one of her lawyers while he just shakes his head in shame, when she was 'crying' on the stand she couldn't even manage real tears for something as terrifying as abuse? Let alone her closing speech just half crying saying she just wanted to be left alone but every time Depps laywers made an objection she immediately just snapped out of the act to turn to them and be like "You interrupting my performance here?!". Just scary what must be going on in her head.
I think that she doesnt know that acting works in theatre, films and so on, but not in real life. She went for the wrong choice. Acting is not the same as lying. I mean, if you are gonna lie, you gotta act real, not like you are acting. That is why she comes across as so utterly fake. To me, everything she said is a made up story that she rehearsed in her head and delivered in an acting mode. In films, there would have been re-shoots, edits, close-ups or not... That does not happen in real life.
Johnny's team got it moved to a state that allows trials to be televised, not all states allow it to be. 👍 As well guys, he has sued her for £50 million, but since she can't pay it, he won't win a cash payout, it's just so justice is served in Johnny's eyes
Incorrect! It had to be in Virginia because the Paper the op Ed was in is in Virginia 🤷🏻♀️ and there was a ruling about it being televised he didn’t object ambers team did
Fair enough👍 but it didn't have to be in Virginia, the fact the op ed was posted there allowed it to be held there but it could have been held anywhere, according to the Washington post anyway
@@mrjrountree I wasn’t being an arse 🙈 I’m pretty sure that it was there because the Washington post is there ( could be wrong but I’m sure I saw that). Imagine it wasn’t televised the media would have span a very different tale, I mean even now it was on tv they’re still attempting to make people question their eyeballs and ears 🤷🏻♀️
The thing is she never made an actual accusation through the law hence why the most he can respond with is defamation. Whether that's Wrong or right is another question as well
If it's a proven lie, then sure. But that already happens - those who are PROVEN to have lied get jail time. A simple 'not guilty' verdict doesn't mean that the individual lied (not saying about this case, I'm saying in general)
the evidence is undeniable that Amber is pure evil and the fact she's even had the audacity to think she could go to court with her all lies and convince the public and Jonnys Lawyers especially Ben and Camille have just put her head in a spin so much she can't even remember the lies she's told.. and by the way Camile and Ben have been outstanding and Amber's lawyer never had a chance because they have no truth to work with
This trial is so popular because it's a high profile example of a staggering injustice. All of us have experienced, to varying degrees, injustices; and we want Johnny to get justice so we can at least "hope" that we might get justice too. On the other hand if Johnny, who seems to be overwhelmingly the wronged party here, can't get justice, even with all his resources; what hope for we "little people"? In my opinion, that's a big part of why so many people are so riveted by this trial. Also, *actual* survivors of abuse have an extra reason to empathize with Johnny.
@@pale_saint Yes, that too. There's a LOT of angles to this case that have significant implications for many, if not all, of us. Another is that many regular people are seeing, perhaps for the first time, how the media can manipulate us into believing things that aren't true and run interference for the actual villains. No one should uncritically believe media narratives, especially after this. They can be mistaken, and they can lie. And they do both a lot more than people think.
The sad thing is, is that despite public opinion and what ever the jury think johnny will never recover from this. He wont ever win an oscar or be a in a big hollywood movie. Once these companies black list someone they never take them off the black list. I'm just glad that he finally got to show the world his side of the story. He didnt do it by writting an article or do it by speaking on a lengthy podcast. He took her to court, made sure it was televised and just let us listen and watch amber for 7 weeks. He never really had to say much on stand but it seems like amber had a lot to say on stand and most the time she kept getting caught up in lie after lie. Thats all johnny wanted, he doesn't want $50m just the public to see the real amber and what he dealt with for 7 years.
The Kate Moss bit was such a own goal for Amber. Not only did she open the door for Moss to testify, Moss completely reversed the story and painted Johnny as a hero who literally carried her back to the room and got a doctor to come and see her.
I’m in agreement with the Depp/Heard take but the examples of wrongly accused men are piss poor particularly McGregor and Chris Brown.there’s a LOT against them.also the attractiveness of the women are irrelevant.Brian pushing the men vs women arguments reeks of misogyny as usual.tone deaf.
Amber is so insane, and the stories kept getting more dramatic - with all the wailing and dry eyed gurning I was honestly waiting for her to wail "and then I died!! And I was dead for 8 days!" 🤦🏽♀️ Heaven preserve us from compulsive liars!
I am so glad True Geordie works on his own now because the other guy chipping in is SOOOOOOOOO annoying! He doesn't let True Geordie finish a sentence!
I’ve been in a mentally and physically abusive relationship with a narcissistic man in the past and I 100% see these traits in Amber! I think anyone that has experienced this kind of relationship will also. The kind of women I’ve seen that are on “team” Amber are themselves also narcissistic, men haters that want her to win because they think that’s all men are good for money. Before the “pick me” comments come from bitter negative women, I’ve dated women only for the past 4 years I love women and to be perfectly honest I don’t particularly like men half the time they can be predictable pigs but I stand for what’s right, period. The evidence shows Jonny is innocent. The energy shows Amber is guilty. Energy doesn’t lie.
Well there you go ( I’m a survivor of sa ) but didn’t live with an abuser … I trust your opinion completely, you have a sister here,she triggered the fuck out of me , can’t imagine living with that .
All trials are public by default. That usually means cameras are permitted by request. If a media outlet wants to stream a trial, they just need to ask the court's permission in advance. The parties can submit motions for or against it, and the judge decides whether the public's right to observe the justice system at work outweighs whatever objections have been raised.
The point made and examples given at 7:00 are so grim. For example in Ronaldo's case, how can you address and be annoyed about a potential false accusation but not him probably raping someone and getting away with it, which is far more likely? And how can you say "what do they have to lose?". Everything. Women who speak out against powerful men get a ridiculous amount of abuse and 99% of times they are telling the truth. Honestly, such a damaging opinion to have and share on a platform this big. Women need to be encouraged to speak out and they usually don't. They are even less likely too against a man who is powerful. Even when they do, they rarely get justice. Educate yourself.
Men are 400 times more likely to be raped than falsely accused of it, yet a large chunk spend all their energy crying about the latter rather than the former. Weird...
You can’t say probably raping someone, that’s the problem right there the fact that women can say that happened have 0 evidence and people like you go well he’s a famous male so he probably did it. And how is it far more likely? didn’t it get dropped because there wasn’t any evidence. Mason greenwood on a recording thats hard evidence and he should be sent down, saying he did this to me is not evidence.
I HAVE been in an abusive relationship, soo I AM on Johnny’s side! HE’S the ACTUAL survivor! She sure does NOT represent me! I grew up seeing this on both sides I survived my own situation it’s GROSS on both sides not cute etc. IT’s gross
I think its also relevant to say that Johnny is a calm, sensitive guy who like you said has some deamons so he is more prone to being abused by a type of person like her.
I used to be on her side, before the trial. I've been in abusing relationship before, so I identified with what she said. However, I completely changed my view, and I am now completely disgusted with her. He has done and said some awful things, that's for sure, but what she's done is unbelievable. She made a mockery of actual victims of DA and SA. The only positive thing that came from this is, except for the obvious (JD getting justice) it made people realise victims and perpetrators come in all shape and size.
The funny thing is I spent my childhood and some of my years growing up where the case is taking place currently in Fairfax Virginia. The justice and police system there are so inept and bad that I started laughing when the trial was announced it would be there. Y’all better pray for him lol I wouldn’t be surprised if it did turn sour. But at the same time that would bring attention to how bad it is over there so they might make the right decision to take the attention of that city
As a female fan of you two boys, I’m sorry to say this pod came across as time deaf and really quite misogynistic. I’m in no way supporting of Amber Heard, but the constant reiteration of whether or not she’s pretty (not just Heard but other mentioned women), as well as the instant damnification of her and other women as definitively falsely accusing celebrities, this really struck a nerve with me. As I say, massive fan but this didn’t feel quite right.
This massively annoyed me. There is a real discussion to be had about this case and the way the public handles cases of domestic abuse, not whether or not Amber Heard and Kate Moss are attractive. And then bringing up Chris Brown as an example of women lying about men (more than once he was brought up) is pretty insensitive as he is literally an abuser
Regarding the false accusations thing i agree. The examples they gave were quite bad (especially the Chris brown One lol) although it most certainly happens and is a big issue. But what's so wrong about commenting whether you find a woman attractive or unnatractive? How is that misogynistic
@@PombaAbusada Those aren't false accusations because you can't disprove them. They're just accusations. A UK court had ruled that there was substantial truth to her allegations, and the only reason why we're dismissing her case is because its against Depp, and ruining a beloved actors career automatically makes you a gold digging vindictive bitch, who we'll just label the protagonist of abuse because, you know... women don't retaliate when their partners are controlling, jealous, paranoid addicts who prefer to get high all day and put their partners through it than have committed relationship. This whole thing to me is misogynistic, and a little perverted.
The difference between the abuse for me; Amber is the perpetrator and Johnny is defending himself. He reacts to her mental torture and physical abuse which she’s admitted to on occasions and there’s recordings where she’s clearly down playing punching him, kicking a door at his head. Johnny Depp so far has said he pushed her away, and attacked furniture. It’s obvious she’s the one going after him and changing tact during conversation (trying out different stances and tugging on different emotions to see which works)
Loving listening to this! What I would like to say is loads of people have had to deal with horrific trauma but don’t abuse people because of it. I don’t think trauma can be an excuse to cause other people trauma
I don’t agree wholly with the quote “hurt people hurt people”, in a lot of cases abused people go out of their way not to replicate the trauma and hurt that they’d felt once. You’re right
Sorry but this is genuinely not true. I have a lot of physical and emotional abuse that was started by my grandfather has lasted generations until me. Generational trauma is a thing and the abused become abusers. While it doesn't happen to everyone - the idea that abused people don't hurt others is BS.
Amber Heard has done so much damage to women who are genuine victims. There were already eons of men who universally don't believe women and she just gave them a reason to keep thinking that. She claims she has ptsd ffs but exhibits none of the traits of a person who is afraid of her alleged abuser. The way she spoke to him on that recording wasn't a frightened victim. I can't imagine how anyone can support Heard.
I have to disagree with the “but someone made them this way so it’s not their fault narrative.” There comes a time where you’re an adult and you have to learn that actions have consequences. Saying “I grew up this way” or “I had a rough childhood” is no excuse. I can understand that it would make sense that you act that way because of it but that should never give you any sympathy or let alone a pass for you actions. If you can’t hold yourself accountable then you really need to rethink your own morals
I think their relationship showed both sides of the coin. They both had shitty childhoods, one swore never to repeat the abuse because they learned that's not how to treat people (and got took advantage of) the other used it as an excuse to repeat the abuse.
The thing I hate about Amber Heard is because she has the same condition as me, EUPD(type of borderline personality disorder), she almost uses it as an excuse for her actions towards Johnny Depp. And now, me and a few people I know with the same condition, are now getting more verbal abuse because people just assume - “oh, you have the same condition as Amber Heard? Abuser!”. Honestly, I’m so angry, I’m lost for words
Amber saying everyone is lying on stand in favor of Johny wasn't a great take either imo. Fun fact is that she always said the op ed wasn't about Johny, but then in her closing statements she literally said it wa about him. She's so stupid ngl, how can 1 person cry so many times without a single tear? Also the fact she couldn't remember /recall anything when she was asked about it, but then when it''s her turn to talk she could remember every detail in the world. That's what u call a script.. Johny prolly ain't an angel either, but that's what a toxic relation gets you. But the things she accuses him for are just outrageous. No matter if he wins or loses, mans got his voice back and Camille is bae!
Yeah, I noticed that, one minute the op-ed wasn't just about Johnny, then under cross examination, she said that when Johnny used his power and influence in Hollywood against her, that's when and why she wrote it, to expose him. I was saddened by her sister Whitney. She's been beaten and abused by Amber, yet is always there, trailing around after her, like the Renfield to Heard's Dracula, or the Igor to her Victor Frankenstein (although Victor Frankenstein had more humanity and morals). Both of them should really be investigated for conspiring to pervert the course of justice, and perjury, but that won't happen.
I tune in to hear Brian, not Laurence interrupt every 12 seconds. He's not nearly as clever as he thinks he is. I'm sick of his holier-than-thou woke b.s. Dude, you're not a co-host. If you think we want to hear you, start your own podcast.
It shows how much Brian’s sense of humour is the same as Ricky gervais’ when he does the “there are plenty of good women comedians” thinks, “there is one” 😅😅
Funny thing though, in the comments on the trial, over and over again women who identify as dv survivors were on side for Johnny and getting triggered by Amber.
The most convincing testimony for me was Whitney Heards old boss saying that Whitney told her something completely different to what she’s saying on the stand
Whitney testimony was actually a waste of time because hers involved in a letter which can't be admitted as it is hearsay. It was pointless bringing her in
The fact its even a debate when Depp is fortunate enough to have such resources and finances alongside such blatant and damning evidence and still can get absolutely fuck all makes me think an standard bloke with the same stuff would get nothing
I think its relatable to all men who have either been accused falsely or have been in violent relationships where both partners hurt each other but the male is always blamed even when we all know really that a lot of women (not all) instigate violence.
male should never hit back, there is a difference in strength level. he should just suck it up and walk away, there is NO excuse for physical retaliation against an unarmed woman. end of.
@@DoctorMooCow So the law doesn't apply to women then? Assault away women! Abuse men like Amber Heard. Laugh about giving your husband a black eye and severing his finger. Silly women who don't have a purpose in life waste time campaigning for equality. These people don't want equality, they want a free pass to behave however you like without consequence.
As someone that’s a hunter in America I agree with what you guys say to a point. So I find the problem in America anyone over 21 can buy a pistol and anyone over 18 can buy a semi auto ar. What I personally think is ban those two type of guns and you can only use guns that are bolt, lever, pump which are only used for hunting.
I was in a relationship with a narcissistic man. 4 years later I'm still in therapy and on pills. Not going to lie, watching Amber Heard being grilled by Camille brought me so much satisfaction.
Love your guys content together, funny or serious, you guys always get it spot on. Geordie, you speak so articulately and you both can really work through any subject with logic.. Unfortunately, something that alot of others can't when speaking on subjects such as this.. Keep it up boys, inspiring!!
The thing about this case that, no matter who you believe, so many people have made a case about abuse into their entertainment. People posting thirst traps to amber describing horrific abuse? Even if she is literally reading from a script, that's unforgivable. So many victims are going to be ignored because this has set a precedent that abuse victims aren't to be believed and that women will lie just to ruin a successful mans career when 99 percent of the time that's not the case, and so many guilty abusers walk free because of that mentality already.
Brian's take on this is what's wrong, it's all about who she slept with and it's about the man's wealth and infamy. He brought up Chris brown..... says it all.
That guy on the right can't have been watching the trial, Johnny kept trying to get away from the arguments. The only recordings of him shouting back are at the end of the relationship.
"Bad things happen to these people that cause them to become guilty" So should we now dismiss everyone's case because bad things happen in their life? If we don't have consequences for our actions, we become spoiled & worse than before.
I can absolutely tell ya anyone who's actually been through what Amber claims ain't supporting her. There's this weird kinda vibe that survivors give off that only other survivors can feel. I know it sounds mental or fantasy but it's defo a thing. It oozes out of JD and I just wanna sit near him and have him feel it, feel validated by it, whereas she offends my senses, my intellect, my emotional intelligence and the survivor in me. She makes my spidey senses go on threat alert.
That feeling is an odd one. I can only imagine that's what it feels like to "feel God" (I'm not a religious man, but I know that feeling of "when you know, you know" and assume that's what people mean) You can't describe it, but you just "know". She was just cold and mentally stuttering, no feeling of "knowing" about her.
You know what would be really fricking amazing, if you invited an expert on the show some time, like I feel like a psychoanalyst or someone who really understands this sort of thing would have made the Podcast better. Still enjoyed it a lot though!
That’s bs .it’s nothing to do with feminism certainly not radical feminism .abuse is abuse and the evidence was against her and it was obvious she was lying .
@@mj42095 I think people are misinterpreting what I meant. I said radical feminists, not all feminist. Plenty of women I know support jd, but there are plenty of women out there who don’t because they believe we should always side with women.
you were talking about determinism Laurance... but to that extent you can't blame anybody of anything. you are what you are and you will react how you will react (good or bad). but "society" has decided that you have personal responsibility and so your actions are your own - whether you can control them or not
The most frustrating part is that so many women suffer domestic and sexual abuse and never get heard, believed, or are too scared to come forward, and never get the justice that they deserve. Amber making what now appear to be false accusations, and anyone else who makes false accusations, just make it less likely for people who are actual survivors of abuse to actually be believed.
Hey guys, Firstly I'd like to say thank you to both of you for speaking about abuse in the way you did. I agree with alot of what you say. I myself a victim/survivor of Domestic Abuse and Violence have experienced alot of what Johnny Depp went through with Amber Heard and people always believe a narcissist before they believe the victim. They exploit all our weaknesses and then point the finger at us rather than themselves. Amber believed she would always be believed regardless of what she said, it makes victims think they will never be believed and want us to be the blame. Also you two were my sanity during my DV&SA I watched your podcasts as an escape from my life at the time. By the way I'm in a happy healthy relationship now but I wanted to say thankyou I don't think you realise how much people like me appreciate your content at those moments in our lives. Thanks Brian and Loz xx
More likely the photos at the end party were of ones bum on the photocopier. Thankyou for your insightful ,informative and spot on ( esspecially )last 15 min to 30 mins the end of podcast. Thankyou for your huge contribution of ones quest.
I’m unable to finish watching you right now, ( I will when I’m not babysitting) , but you were discussing STAND UP COMEDIANS, and you didn’t mention #1 SEBASTIAN MANISCALCO!
Completely agree with the opening sentiments. However this is a bit rich from Brian who's openly slandered Michael Jackson based on proven false accusations. The bigger the star, the bigger the target. Would be nice to see if Brian has done his research on MJ.
Thank you! "Leaving Neverland" was a sensational cash-grab from someone who's no longer around to defend himself. Those 2 storytellers are "lying liars who lie," as they say. 🫶🏻 Jordan Chandler has come forward to say his allegations were false & directed by his greedy father.
Initially, years ago, I felt bad for AH. Since this trial started & I started hearing her testimony, I am firmly in Johnny's camp. Also, after hearing the audio of her taunting & laughing at JD, I do not believe that he ever hurt her; if that had been ME, I would have punched her in the throat to shut her up.
Johnny comes off with his real emotions he is probably somewhat numb at this point but she is attempting to portray emotions she has never had she blew her the one role she actually won as leading actress that was the role of Mrs Johnny Depp
@@masterflarty makes it even better that Liverpool lost so much recently since he is so bitter that he doesn’t want to speak as much, good news for you haha
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And a big thanks to you both. You have such a mega talent for making podcasts. 🤘 Hope you never get bored of doing them.
I think Brian was spot on about AJ doing the kids a favour. He highly doubt he was ever actually going to hit them. But they still learned that these people are real, and there are still consequences for saying stuff online.
The depressing thing about this case is that if Johnny Depp was an average guy who worked in a garage he wouldn't have a hope in hell of winning this case.
@joe system is rigged towards men in these cases
@joe He had largely the same evidence in the UK, and lost. Now we can see how much the evidence is in his favor, and he still might lose. Justice is far from certain, no matter the evidence.
You realise that this is a defamation case? Average guys of course have a more difficult time proving defamation? They’re not public figures??
@@simmosimms2841 the system of actual abuse is also rigged against women. How could we possibly tackle one without tackling the other?
@@Alice-cp9sy Yes, it's a defamation case. So what?
Everyone knows that if Johnny is "cleared", at least in the eyes of the public, of the allegations of abuse, then the outcome of the defamation case is secondary. Even Johnny said he was there to clear his name.
Why is Chris Brown thrown into the accused list? He literally smashed Rihanna's face in.
Also smashed her back doors in
He has been accused of other stuff with women
@@MistaMoses he has by other men though
Yeah thought it was definite that he battered her
She hit him first
Chris Brown beat up Rihanna like don't compare to Ronaldo or Depp. Chris Brown should still be in prison and not making music
Ronaldo literally admitted to rape and has multiple sexual assault allegations against him.
The idea that someone can be accused of something with no evidence, nor a pathway back to acceptance in society is something I'm sure we all feel on some level. Truth is important, justice is vital, but knowingly false accusations are something which will hurt men and women alike; men will not defend women from harm if they are worried about accusations for doing so; women will not provide the balance to men that we need if they believe themselves to constantly be in danger from all men. We all need each other, and we need truth and honesty to form the basis of all our relationships.
Thank you for this conversation, gents, truly important in today's world.
Should have left Chris Brown out of your argument fella, he’s not a great example of a ‘wronged man’.
He literally got falsely accused of rape
I get what he was trying to get at but, I agree. The photos of Rihanna's bashed-in face will forever haunt me...Chris Brown has continuously proven that he's a violent guy too...
@@dogsarethebe5t Absolutely! Rihanna’s beaten face is hard to forget and he will forever be associated with domestic violence. It isn’t hard for people to be convinced that he is also capable of sexual assault, too. That in itself is wrong, but he is a victim of his own making.
All you will ever know is what you've been told or presented with unless you were there, so take heed, this world is a circus full of clowns, puppets and actors of all kinds.... Never forget that much...
Watch bill burrs take on it
Personally, I believe Johnny Depp, however, I think the other comparisons are problematic. I believe Johnny Depp was abused by amber heard because there is a lot of evidence. I don’t have an opinion on McGregor as I don’t know evidence. Ronaldo there is compelling evidence against him. So think throwing all three cases together is wrong
Well said
I agree however, I think the point was that powerful men attract these types of issues whether they’re guilty or not
I agree, the cases are very different and shouldn't be lumped together.
There was no evidence against Ronaldo. As in that it was forced. It was classic extortion.
What compelling evidence against Ronaldo?
Interesting chat, I have to say that the comparisons Brian bought up are kinda weird. Like theres a whole lot of evidence against Chris Brown and Ronaldo doing wrong against women. Not a criticism of the overall video. If anything the inclusion of these examples detract from the argument in support of Johnny Depp.
Hmmm, don’t know about Chris Brown, but I am pretty sure that the cases against Ronaldo were dropped due to a lack of any evidence.
Yeah I thought it was a very bizarre example that made it sound like he thought women were generally lying and men should be trusted. Those are the last people to be bringing up. Surprised he didn’t bring up Bill Crosby since he was freed 😂 still love Brian though
@@henrydodson655 no he didn’t why u Caplin
This one. I hope the boys look back on this one. To reference and compare the police officer murdering a woman and the attached backlash to men in DA relationships not speaking up was bizarre.
As mentioned, there was plenty of evidence against Chris, and there was Ronaldo’s statement on what he had done or felt he had done.
This court case has been bizarre throughout, and I’m left thinking this was a stinking relationship both parties didn’t want to be in but also didn’t feel the need to leave. What I would say is what if even a small part of what she’s accused him of is actually true?
What if the person people are saying is a terrible actress, and the person people are saying is a world class actor are exactly that..?
@@henrydodson655 some dumbass logic
I'm a female who has been Abused an I never believed she was telling the truth. She's so aggressive with JD you can tell he's definitely not a Man she's afraid of. You don't hit or yell at your ABUSER, it wouldn't of ended well for her. Thank God the Jury made the right decision.
Met Lawrence the other day at the Liverpool parade and had a good conversation with him. Really nice guy and I'm glad all his efforts are paying off now these guys deserve all the success they get, they work really hard for it 👍
If there's anything I've learnt through watching this trial religiously... it's that court is actually really fucking boring. And that's with a high profile case! The amount of objections, calls for speculation, no foundation, hear say etc. Exhausting. It's a no from me.
Oh and Amber's lying for sure x
It's not meant to be entertaining?
@@AcedVidz of course! You just see it on TV/film so much that you rarely see how it is in reality
Try being part of the jury…its a whole new level of boredom 😂 The idea of it sounds great and interesting but it’s really not, sadly..
A few Good Men has a lot to answer for.
I completely and utterly disagree with you, I love everything about it - It's a yes from me! :)
Nah the majority of woman I've seen including myself that have been abused are supporting johhny because we know what real abuse looks like. The belive all women thing angers me!. We shouldn't belive all anyone we should take any accusations seriously and review the evidence case by case. End of story.
I'm pretty sure the believe all women thing mainly means don't attack the accuser just because they might be making it up because if they actually are the victim it's a terrible thing to do
@@ovaloctopus8 that may have been the intention, sadly, that's NOT how it's interpreted....and manipulators, like AH, know that & use it as a weapon.
Great timing. Was missing this format recently!
Something which didn’t sit right with me is that amber’s lawyer Ben Rottenborn (a good lawyer by the way, best on her side) said that Johnny depp calling amber a fat and a bitch etcetera when they are in arguments, was worse than when he was called ‘one eye’ when he was a child.
The level of psychological effect is not the same at all, 11-13 year old having an abusive mother you would call him names because he had to wear an eye patch.
It’s not a major thing but it just stuck with me.
I must admit, it’s quite funny how he had to wear an eye patch as a kid and his most famous role as an adult was a pirate.
I also find the false equivalence between calling someone nasty names, and getting punched in the face.
Rottenborn is indeed a great lawyer, but the worst thing he said in the closing arguments was saying Depp smashing the cabinets IS domestic abuse, using that as THE evidence that confirmed Depp to be an abuser.
My dad used to get drunk and smash everything, but never did he once touch my mother, me or any of my siblings.
I watched the trial and there is not a single piece of CLEAR evidence indicating that Johnny Depp is an abuser.
@@Godotlv5000 I didn’t see that part of his closing argument as I saw most of all of it in parts, but if that’s what he said then he is reaching. Stuff he probably bought is stuff he can break if he wants 😀.
The reason why what I said in the original post is important is they are going to try and use the psychological/verbal abuse argument so they don’t need to prove the physical abuse.
I don’t like that, because 1. I don’t see two couples arguing and calling each other names (albeit toxic) not really abuse, 2. She says in the op Ed that he physically abused her so I don’t think trying to evidence verbal abuse is enough.
Lawyers job is to do whatever they can to get the win. It’s what their job is and we all would want a lawyer that does that. But if breaking cabinets = domestic abuse/violence then they are scraping the bottom of the barrel
Is this a joke? Talking about how you want to rape a woman's dead body is obviously more grotesque than 'one-eye' and the fact that you people think differently is only evidence of disregard for female humanity.
1:10:02 - Here's something really awesome I've learned how to do as an adult: I can hear a joke that isn't funny to me; I can hear a joke that offends me, and I silently say to myself, _"I'm going to let that slide - because it's not intended as an exclusionary, or belittling, 'eff you' to anyone,"_ and then I forget about it when the bit is over! 🤘🏻 Life is great when you approach it with maturity & understanding!
The most hysterical part of Amber during this whole scenario is just the level of bad acting she's doing that makes you question how she's an actor in the first place. She's been seen pretending to write notes then smirking at one of her lawyers while he just shakes his head in shame, when she was 'crying' on the stand she couldn't even manage real tears for something as terrifying as abuse? Let alone her closing speech just half crying saying she just wanted to be left alone but every time Depps laywers made an objection she immediately just snapped out of the act to turn to them and be like "You interrupting my performance here?!". Just scary what must be going on in her head.
Narcissism?
How many movie stars can really act, though? Tom Cruise didn’t get where he is because he’s some amazing thespian.
I think that she doesnt know that acting works in theatre, films and so on, but not in real life. She went for the wrong choice. Acting is not the same as lying. I mean, if you are gonna lie, you gotta act real, not like you are acting.
That is why she comes across as so utterly fake.
To me, everything she said is a made up story that she rehearsed in her head and delivered in an acting mode. In films, there would have been re-shoots, edits, close-ups or not... That does not happen in real life.
One of the best bits of testimony was from her Acting Coach - Amber's Witness mind you! - who said that Amber can't pretend cry on demand 🤣
Spot on couldn’t have said it better
Johnny's team got it moved to a state that allows trials to be televised, not all states allow it to be. 👍 As well guys, he has sued her for £50 million, but since she can't pay it, he won't win a cash payout, it's just so justice is served in Johnny's eyes
A brilliant move by Johnny. He knew that sunlight is the best disinfectant.
@@bandit6272 well said
Incorrect! It had to be in Virginia because the Paper the op Ed was in is in Virginia 🤷🏻♀️ and there was a ruling about it being televised he didn’t object ambers team did
Fair enough👍 but it didn't have to be in Virginia, the fact the op ed was posted there allowed it to be held there but it could have been held anywhere, according to the Washington post anyway
@@mrjrountree I wasn’t being an arse 🙈 I’m pretty sure that it was there because the Washington post is there ( could be wrong but I’m sure I saw that). Imagine it wasn’t televised the media would have span a very different tale, I mean even now it was on tv they’re still attempting to make people question their eyeballs and ears 🤷🏻♀️
Justice for Johnny
Women that accuse men of false accusations should also face charges..
She needs to go prison if you lie about someone sexually abusing you you should spend longer in prison then they would if they were guilty
The thing is she never made an actual accusation through the law hence why the most he can respond with is defamation. Whether that's Wrong or right is another question as well
If it's a proven lie, then sure. But that already happens - those who are PROVEN to have lied get jail time. A simple 'not guilty' verdict doesn't mean that the individual lied (not saying about this case, I'm saying in general)
@@jamesgunn7 my point was that's only if they've made an actual legal allegation which she never did. Hence why this is only defamation.
@@jamesgunn7 won’t get jail time lad😂 just pay it off
@@archiesimpson7641 with what money 😂
the evidence is undeniable that Amber is pure evil and the fact she's even had the audacity to think she could go to court with her all lies and convince the public and Jonnys Lawyers especially Ben and Camille have just put her head in a spin so much she can't even remember the lies she's told.. and by the way Camile and Ben have been outstanding and Amber's lawyer never had a chance because they have no truth to work with
This trial is so popular because it's a high profile example of a staggering injustice.
All of us have experienced, to varying degrees, injustices; and we want Johnny to get justice so we can at least "hope" that we might get justice too.
On the other hand if Johnny, who seems to be overwhelmingly the wronged party here, can't get justice, even with all his resources; what hope for we "little people"?
In my opinion, that's a big part of why so many people are so riveted by this trial. Also, *actual* survivors of abuse have an extra reason to empathize with Johnny.
This is a landmark case because it shows that being the male victim of abuse is nothing to be laughed at like it’s traditionally been
@@pale_saint Yes, that too. There's a LOT of angles to this case that have significant implications for many, if not all, of us.
Another is that many regular people are seeing, perhaps for the first time, how the media can manipulate us into believing things that aren't true and run interference for the actual villains.
No one should uncritically believe media narratives, especially after this. They can be mistaken, and they can lie. And they do both a lot more than people think.
This woman is just something different. How she couldn’t even stick to her own story. Tripping up left, right and centre
The sad thing is, is that despite public opinion and what ever the jury think johnny will never recover from this. He wont ever win an oscar or be a in a big hollywood movie. Once these companies black list someone they never take them off the black list. I'm just glad that he finally got to show the world his side of the story. He didnt do it by writting an article or do it by speaking on a lengthy podcast. He took her to court, made sure it was televised and just let us listen and watch amber for 7 weeks. He never really had to say much on stand but it seems like amber had a lot to say on stand and most the time she kept getting caught up in lie after lie. Thats all johnny wanted, he doesn't want $50m just the public to see the real amber and what he dealt with for 7 years.
He's apparently been cast for Beetlejuice 2. Tim Burton knows what he can do and I think anything he's in will be huge.
@@Heatwave9000 ikr, just look at the will smith shitshow in the last Oscars...
The Kate Moss bit was such a own goal for Amber. Not only did she open the door for Moss to testify, Moss completely reversed the story and painted Johnny as a hero who literally carried her back to the room and got a doctor to come and see her.
All his ex’s said he was a good dude ( except Ellen barkin who dated him for a hot minute, whose been dumped from Hollywood, so there you go)
I’m in agreement with the Depp/Heard take but the examples of wrongly accused men are piss poor particularly McGregor and Chris Brown.there’s a LOT against them.also the attractiveness of the women are irrelevant.Brian pushing the men vs women arguments reeks of misogyny as usual.tone deaf.
Yeah I listened to about 3 minutes of this conversation and it was just too much
Thank you. Just love how every moron immediately starts a podcast these days.
Are u feminist ?
Amber team pushing the men vs women to , they trying to play gender card that man always the bad guy
Amber is so insane, and the stories kept getting more dramatic - with all the wailing and dry eyed gurning I was honestly waiting for her to wail "and then I died!! And I was dead for 8 days!" 🤦🏽♀️
Heaven preserve us from compulsive liars!
Missed these 2 just having a chat like this. Great Podcast!!
I am so glad True Geordie works on his own now because the other guy chipping in is SOOOOOOOOO annoying! He doesn't let True Geordie finish a sentence!
I’ve been in a mentally and physically abusive relationship with a narcissistic man in the past and I 100% see these traits in Amber! I think anyone that has experienced this kind of relationship will also. The kind of women I’ve seen that are on “team” Amber are themselves also narcissistic, men haters that want her to win because they think that’s all men are good for money. Before the “pick me” comments come from bitter negative women, I’ve dated women only for the past 4 years I love women and to be perfectly honest I don’t particularly like men half the time they can be predictable pigs but I stand for what’s right, period. The evidence shows Jonny is innocent. The energy shows Amber is guilty. Energy doesn’t lie.
Same here
I wonder if she was the abuser in the relationship
Poor Johnny
Well there you go ( I’m a survivor of sa ) but didn’t live with an abuser … I trust your opinion completely, you have a sister here,she triggered the fuck out of me , can’t imagine living with that .
Well at least Dior Sauvage stuck by Johnny Depp after her article, props to them and hopefully he can get the result he deserves
Great example as to why we can't simply "believe all women". We can not believe all men and we can't believe all women.
All trials are public by default. That usually means cameras are permitted by request. If a media outlet wants to stream a trial, they just need to ask the court's permission in advance. The parties can submit motions for or against it, and the judge decides whether the public's right to observe the justice system at work outweighs whatever objections have been raised.
The point made and examples given at 7:00 are so grim. For example in Ronaldo's case, how can you address and be annoyed about a potential false accusation but not him probably raping someone and getting away with it, which is far more likely? And how can you say "what do they have to lose?". Everything. Women who speak out against powerful men get a ridiculous amount of abuse and 99% of times they are telling the truth. Honestly, such a damaging opinion to have and share on a platform this big. Women need to be encouraged to speak out and they usually don't. They are even less likely too against a man who is powerful. Even when they do, they rarely get justice. Educate yourself.
Men are 400 times more likely to be raped than falsely accused of it, yet a large chunk spend all their energy crying about the latter rather than the former. Weird...
Most women are like amber heard
You can’t say probably raping someone, that’s the problem right there the fact that women can say that happened have 0 evidence and people like you go well he’s a famous male so he probably did it. And how is it far more likely? didn’t it get dropped because there wasn’t any evidence. Mason greenwood on a recording thats hard evidence and he should be sent down, saying he did this to me is not evidence.
99% of the time women are not telling the truth. Most of the time it turns out to be false
Where did you get the '99%' from. Seems like bs
I HAVE been in an abusive relationship, soo I AM on Johnny’s side! HE’S the ACTUAL survivor! She sure does NOT represent me! I grew up seeing this on both sides I survived my own situation it’s GROSS on both sides not cute etc. IT’s gross
I think its also relevant to say that Johnny is a calm, sensitive guy who like you said has some deamons so he is more prone to being abused by a type of person like her.
I used to be on her side, before the trial. I've been in abusing relationship before, so I identified with what she said. However, I completely changed my view, and I am now completely disgusted with her. He has done and said some awful things, that's for sure, but what she's done is unbelievable. She made a mockery of actual victims of DA and SA. The only positive thing that came from this is, except for the obvious (JD getting justice) it made people realise victims and perpetrators come in all shape and size.
I have been so invested in this case, but I have no faith in the jury to make the right verdict
What's give you the impression about the jury? I don't even know what to think about it
The funny thing is I spent my childhood and some of my years growing up where the case is taking place currently in Fairfax Virginia. The justice and police system there are so inept and bad that I started laughing when the trial was announced it would be there. Y’all better pray for him lol I wouldn’t be surprised if it did turn sour. But at the same time that would bring attention to how bad it is over there so they might make the right decision to take the attention of that city
Don't the jury just need to be convinced there is at least ONE example of domestic abuse - which seems pretty likely
They won’t they will just say both are abusive and throw it out
@@samt7676 so you're expecting it to go in favour of Amber just from what you've seen in the past?
As a female fan of you two boys, I’m sorry to say this pod came across as time deaf and really quite misogynistic. I’m in no way supporting of Amber Heard, but the constant reiteration of whether or not she’s pretty (not just Heard but other mentioned women), as well as the instant damnification of her and other women as definitively falsely accusing celebrities, this really struck a nerve with me. As I say, massive fan but this didn’t feel quite right.
thank you for saying this, very much agree
This massively annoyed me. There is a real discussion to be had about this case and the way the public handles cases of domestic abuse, not whether or not Amber Heard and Kate Moss are attractive. And then bringing up Chris Brown as an example of women lying about men (more than once he was brought up) is pretty insensitive as he is literally an abuser
Regarding the false accusations thing i agree. The examples they gave were quite bad (especially the Chris brown One lol) although it most certainly happens and is a big issue.
But what's so wrong about commenting whether you find a woman attractive or unnatractive? How is that misogynistic
@@PombaAbusada Those aren't false accusations because you can't disprove them. They're just accusations. A UK court had ruled that there was substantial truth to her allegations, and the only reason why we're dismissing her case is because its against Depp, and ruining a beloved actors career automatically makes you a gold digging vindictive bitch, who we'll just label the protagonist of abuse because, you know... women don't retaliate when their partners are controlling, jealous, paranoid addicts who prefer to get high all day and put their partners through it than have committed relationship. This whole thing to me is misogynistic, and a little perverted.
Same I agree.
The difference between the abuse for me; Amber is the perpetrator and Johnny is defending himself. He reacts to her mental torture and physical abuse which she’s admitted to on occasions and there’s recordings where she’s clearly down playing punching him, kicking a door at his head. Johnny Depp so far has said he pushed her away, and attacked furniture. It’s obvious she’s the one going after him and changing tact during conversation (trying out different stances and tugging on different emotions to see which works)
Amber heard is abusing johny dept the most guilty dirtiest thing I’ve ever seen horrible human she is.
Johny Department?
Loving listening to this! What I would like to say is loads of people have had to deal with horrific trauma but don’t abuse people because of it. I don’t think trauma can be an excuse to cause other people trauma
I don’t agree wholly with the quote “hurt people hurt people”, in a lot of cases abused people go out of their way not to replicate the trauma and hurt that they’d felt once. You’re right
Sorry but this is genuinely not true. I have a lot of physical and emotional abuse that was started by my grandfather has lasted generations until me. Generational trauma is a thing and the abused become abusers.
While it doesn't happen to everyone - the idea that abused people don't hurt others is BS.
Since Loz mentioned his mum’s a councillor I can’t unsee him as Otis from Sex Education
Amber Heard has done so much damage to women who are genuine victims. There were already eons of men who universally don't believe women and she just gave them a reason to keep thinking that. She claims she has ptsd ffs but exhibits none of the traits of a person who is afraid of her alleged abuser. The way she spoke to him on that recording wasn't a frightened victim. I can't imagine how anyone can support Heard.
Oh thank god two legal experts have finally had their say!!!
I have to disagree with the “but someone made them this way so it’s not their fault narrative.” There comes a time where you’re an adult and you have to learn that actions have consequences. Saying “I grew up this way” or “I had a rough childhood” is no excuse. I can understand that it would make sense that you act that way because of it but that should never give you any sympathy or let alone a pass for you actions. If you can’t hold yourself accountable then you really need to rethink your own morals
Agreed! And just because you’ve been through a lot doesn’t give you ANY right to destroy another person. 🙌🏼
I think their relationship showed both sides of the coin. They both had shitty childhoods, one swore never to repeat the abuse because they learned that's not how to treat people (and got took advantage of) the other used it as an excuse to repeat the abuse.
The thing I hate about Amber Heard is because she has the same condition as me, EUPD(type of borderline personality disorder), she almost uses it as an excuse for her actions towards Johnny Depp. And now, me and a few people I know with the same condition, are now getting more verbal abuse because people just assume - “oh, you have the same condition as Amber Heard? Abuser!”. Honestly, I’m so angry, I’m lost for words
Amber saying everyone is lying on stand in favor of Johny wasn't a great take either imo.
Fun fact is that she always said the op ed wasn't about Johny, but then in her closing statements she literally said it wa about him. She's so stupid ngl, how can 1 person cry so many times without a single tear?
Also the fact she couldn't remember /recall anything when she was asked about it, but then when it''s her turn to talk she could remember every detail in the world. That's what u call a script..
Johny prolly ain't an angel either, but that's what a toxic relation gets you. But the things she accuses him for are just outrageous. No matter if he wins or loses, mans got his voice back and Camille is bae!
Yeah, I noticed that, one minute the op-ed wasn't just about Johnny, then under cross examination, she said that when Johnny used his power and influence in Hollywood against her, that's when and why she wrote it, to expose him.
I was saddened by her sister Whitney.
She's been beaten and abused by Amber, yet is always there, trailing around after her, like the Renfield to Heard's Dracula, or the Igor to her Victor Frankenstein (although Victor Frankenstein had more humanity and morals).
Both of them should really be investigated for conspiring to pervert the course of justice, and perjury, but that won't happen.
As a female who has experienced DV, She puts actual survivors in a bad light.
Shame on her
I wonder if she was the abuser in the relationship
Oh I'm going to look forward to this, I was really hoping you guys would do a video about this trial 😂
I tune in to hear Brian, not Laurence interrupt every 12 seconds. He's not nearly as clever as he thinks he is. I'm sick of his holier-than-thou woke b.s. Dude, you're not a co-host. If you think we want to hear you, start your own podcast.
It shows how much Brian’s sense of humour is the same as Ricky gervais’ when he does the “there are plenty of good women comedians” thinks, “there is one” 😅😅
I’ve been reluctant to say it and never imagined I would… but Brian you’ve outgrown Loz
Funny thing though, in the comments on the trial, over and over again women who identify as dv survivors were on side for Johnny and getting triggered by Amber.
The most convincing testimony for me was Whitney Heards old boss saying that Whitney told her something completely different to what she’s saying on the stand
Whitney testimony was actually a waste of time because hers involved in a letter which can't be admitted as it is hearsay. It was pointless bringing her in
"There's no love in her. At all. She is pure cold reptilian villain."😂😂😂
The fact its even a debate when Depp is fortunate enough to have such resources and finances alongside such blatant and damning evidence and still can get absolutely fuck all makes me think an standard bloke with the same stuff would get nothing
This was a fantastic post guys. Some great insight. I've missed this type on content. 😎👍👍
I think its relatable to all men who have either been accused falsely or have been in violent relationships where both partners hurt each other but the male is always blamed even when we all know really that a lot of women (not all) instigate violence.
male should never hit back, there is a difference in strength level. he should just suck it up and walk away, there is NO excuse for physical retaliation against an unarmed woman. end of.
@@DoctorMooCow So the law doesn't apply to women then? Assault away women! Abuse men like Amber Heard. Laugh about giving your husband a black eye and severing his finger. Silly women who don't have a purpose in life waste time campaigning for equality. These people don't want equality, they want a free pass to behave however you like without consequence.
I love your take on this, and I loved your take talking to James Arthur. I fully agree with your opinions True Geordie.
Love this podcast. Cuts through politically correct nonsense and states the truth. Well done boys
As someone that’s a hunter in America I agree with what you guys say to a point. So I find the problem in America anyone over 21 can buy a pistol and anyone over 18 can buy a semi auto ar. What I personally think is ban those two type of guns and you can only use guns that are bolt, lever, pump which are only used for hunting.
I was in a relationship with a narcissistic man. 4 years later I'm still in therapy and on pills. Not going to lie, watching Amber Heard being grilled by Camille brought me so much satisfaction.
Love your guys content together, funny or serious, you guys always get it spot on. Geordie, you speak so articulately and you both can really work through any subject with logic.. Unfortunately, something that alot of others can't when speaking on subjects such as this.. Keep it up boys, inspiring!!
44:00 Your point is exactly the same as Bill Burr's is.. He perfectly summerises why being a powerful man has huge affects on the person's psychie..
will always say this. my favourite pods is just the two of you. Keep killing it lads
The thing about this case that, no matter who you believe, so many people have made a case about abuse into their entertainment. People posting thirst traps to amber describing horrific abuse? Even if she is literally reading from a script, that's unforgivable. So many victims are going to be ignored because this has set a precedent that abuse victims aren't to be believed and that women will lie just to ruin a successful mans career when 99 percent of the time that's not the case, and so many guilty abusers walk free because of that mentality already.
Thank you!!
You can blame Amber for this, not us.
@@hayleylongster4698 I can blame amber for the horrific reactions of the public? she only has so much power man
“Thirst traps” do you even know what that means?
@@cakepudding3220 yes, have you seen the disturbing ones on tik tok?
Narcissistic Personality Disorder is the key to life. If only this was taught in school, life would be so much more easier
Ah, yes. A disorder shall surely render life easier 🤓
And I thought some of my exes were psycho! 😁
We need you back on the PODCAST Shaun. BIG FAN.
@@thor8419 would love that
finally!!!! Was dying for a video on this from you guys
Brian's take on this is what's wrong, it's all about who she slept with and it's about the man's wealth and infamy. He brought up Chris brown..... says it all.
That guy on the right can't have been watching the trial, Johnny kept trying to get away from the arguments. The only recordings of him shouting back are at the end of the relationship.
chris brown abused rihanna though? i don’t think that situation is comparable. she nearly died because of how bad the beating was.
There were rumors that she started the beating. She has a horrible reputation.
i don’t care whether she “provoked” him. he nearly killed her. there’s no excuse for that.
They aren't referring to the rhianna case I don't think, it's the multiple sexual assault accusations that had zero evidence.
@@nadia8372 don’t start stuff you can’t finish then lol
"Bad things happen to these people that cause them to become guilty"
So should we now dismiss everyone's case because bad things happen in their life?
If we don't have consequences for our actions, we become spoiled & worse than before.
good to have you lads back been missed
I can absolutely tell ya anyone who's actually been through what Amber claims ain't supporting her. There's this weird kinda vibe that survivors give off that only other survivors can feel. I know it sounds mental or fantasy but it's defo a thing. It oozes out of JD and I just wanna sit near him and have him feel it, feel validated by it, whereas she offends my senses, my intellect, my emotional intelligence and the survivor in me.
She makes my spidey senses go on threat alert.
That feeling is an odd one. I can only imagine that's what it feels like to "feel God" (I'm not a religious man, but I know that feeling of "when you know, you know" and assume that's what people mean)
You can't describe it, but you just "know". She was just cold and mentally stuttering, no feeling of "knowing" about her.
The judge put the motion for it to be televised to alleviate the crowds at the courthouse, Depp agreed, Heard didn't.
You know what would be really fricking amazing, if you invited an expert on the show some time, like I feel like a psychoanalyst or someone who really understands this sort of thing would have made the Podcast better. Still enjoyed it a lot though!
An absolute shambles from start to finish this
Team amber = radical feminist that watch the news. Team Johnny = people who’ve actually seen the evidence.
That’s bs .it’s nothing to do with feminism certainly not radical feminism .abuse is abuse and the evidence was against her and it was obvious she was lying .
@@jencheevers983 clearly you haven’t seen the amber supporters out there, maybe go have a look.
Tbf most feminists I know support Johnny
@@mj42095 I think people are misinterpreting what I meant. I said radical feminists, not all feminist. Plenty of women I know support jd, but there are plenty of women out there who don’t because they believe we should always side with women.
GREAT JOB, ENJOYED THE STREAM
Johnny should win but the jury may not see it that way
You love to see it
Was waiting for this one for a while
you were talking about determinism Laurance... but to that extent you can't blame anybody of anything. you are what you are and you will react how you will react (good or bad). but "society" has decided that you have personal responsibility and so your actions are your own - whether you can control them or not
Deep. 👌
pretty much - "It's not your fault, but you are responsible"
Close out was hilarious, last minute. Whole pod was very very good. Enjoyed, thank you
The most frustrating part is that so many women suffer domestic and sexual abuse and never get heard, believed, or are too scared to come forward, and never get the justice that they deserve. Amber making what now appear to be false accusations, and anyone else who makes false accusations, just make it less likely for people who are actual survivors of abuse to actually be believed.
Hey guys, Firstly I'd like to say thank you to both of you for speaking about abuse in the way you did. I agree with alot of what you say. I myself a victim/survivor of Domestic Abuse and Violence have experienced alot of what Johnny Depp went through with Amber Heard and people always believe a narcissist before they believe the victim. They exploit all our weaknesses and then point the finger at us rather than themselves. Amber believed she would always be believed regardless of what she said, it makes victims think they will never be believed and want us to be the blame.
Also you two were my sanity during my DV&SA I watched your podcasts as an escape from my life at the time. By the way I'm in a happy healthy relationship now but I wanted to say thankyou I don't think you realise how much people like me appreciate your content at those moments in our lives.
Thanks Brian and Loz xx
So happy she got caught out. Hope johnny is OK now🙏❤👍✌👊
More likely the photos at the end party were of ones bum on the photocopier. Thankyou for your insightful ,informative and spot on ( esspecially )last 15 min to 30 mins the end of podcast. Thankyou for your huge contribution of ones quest.
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I’m unable to finish watching you right now, ( I will when I’m not babysitting) , but you were discussing STAND UP COMEDIANS, and you didn’t mention #1 SEBASTIAN MANISCALCO!
i always love watching brian and lawrence having fun with the brand deals
Okay this is a great take True Geordie. Love it
Completely agree with the opening sentiments. However this is a bit rich from Brian who's openly slandered Michael Jackson based on proven false accusations. The bigger the star, the bigger the target. Would be nice to see if Brian has done his research on MJ.
Thank you! "Leaving Neverland" was a sensational cash-grab from someone who's no longer around to defend himself. Those 2 storytellers are "lying liars who lie," as they say. 🫶🏻 Jordan Chandler has come forward to say his allegations were false & directed by his greedy father.
Thanks for the pod
how is johnny in a mess in his life? we all have these struggles / mental health struggles, just cause his is public doesnt mean its a mess
Brilliant show gents, long time fan from Australia
Initially, years ago, I felt bad for AH. Since this trial started & I started hearing her testimony, I am firmly in Johnny's camp. Also, after hearing the audio of her taunting & laughing at JD, I do not believe that he ever hurt her; if that had been ME, I would have punched her in the throat to shut her up.
Was disgusted and appalled to read that you'd punch a woman in the throat..
Will always read the username first from now on (facepalm)
@@jamesboland9030 she attacked him multiple times. At some point you have to fight back
Johnny comes off with his real emotions he is probably somewhat numb at this point but she is attempting to portray emotions she has never had she blew her the one role she actually won as leading actress that was the role of Mrs Johnny Depp
Is there anything at all Laurence doesn’t see himself as an expert? Every single topic Laurence is there convinced he’s right about everything
Guy loves the sound of his own voice!
@@masterflarty makes it even better that Liverpool lost so much recently since he is so bitter that he doesn’t want to speak as much, good news for you haha
@@LJX888 haha 😂 let's see how long it lasts mate!
He isn't an expert at being an interesting person to listen to
Yeah he’s such a smug bell