In our construction company we have a 2014 5.0 It has 100k on it and has worked everyday of its service. Tows a 12ft utility trailer loaded with tools, minimum 15 sheets plywood, supplies, ladders, aluminun brake, crew of at least 4. This truck has never been down either then a swollen fuse which is a known issue but never missed a day. It has been maintained service wise. Plus you cant tell its running sometimes because it is so smooth.
100% agree. The older Gen 5.0L Coyote motors were solid. I also had a 2014 F-150 5L with just over 100K miles when it met with an unfortunate traffic incident. Kept up with regular maintenance (oil/fluids/brakes/plugs/coolant) never had any issues with the engine or drivetrain. Did not burn oil! I was planning on driving it until the body rotted away. Hated to lose that vehicle.
I have a 14 5.0, three '15 Ram 5.7s in our courier fleet. They've been flawless. It seems like the Ford and Ram were building their best during this time frame.
'14 5.0 4x, 165k. Got the lash adjuster and follower tick at 125k, switched to 5w30. It quieted down and finally at the 165k oil change it had burned one whole quart by the time the 10k interval rolled. Will be replacing some cam followers this spring, thinking Melling brand.
I own a 2016 F150 5.0 Coyote with just over 100,000 miles. I’ve done the usual maintenance items of spark plugs, coolant change and had to replace the water pump, I change the oil every 5,000 miles and use Motorcraft oil. It still runs and performs well and does not use an unusual amount of oil between oil changes, I’ve been very happy with it. I have a friend with a 2016 F150 eco boost engine that just hit 100,000 miles, he just paid $5,000 for the 100,000 mile “eco boost tuneup” replacing both turbos, broken exhaust manifold bolts, etc, I’m glad I bought the 5.0. One other note, I just changed the transmission fluid and I was very impressed with the lack of clutch material in the pan and the fluid was not burnt or overly discolored.
Thanks for asking the tech the right questions. My 2021 Tundra with the bullet-proof 5.7 has lived up to its reputation, but I still bought an extended Toyota factory warranty as an extra layer of protection. If I ever had to part with it, I'd go back to the Ford F150 with the Coyote engine all day long. I've personally seen and heard nothing but bad things about GMs truck v8s, not to mention their late model fuel pump module failures on the newer trucks. The Hurricanes in the Ram trucks are already having issues, and they're too new on the market to risk my hard earned money on.
In 2021 Ford ruined the Coyote by going to a wet rubber oil pump drive belt and cylinder deactivation. If you are not familiar with the total shit show of wet rubber belts, watch Driving 4 Answers great video on the subject. If not familiar with cylinder deactivation disasters, just ask any hemi or chevy owner how they like their $5k cam and lifter changes from it. Then see if they think the tiny gas savings paid off for them?
It all goes down to maintenance I have 3 5.7 Toyotas in the shop 2 tundras and one Lexus with over 100k and the head gaskets gave out cause they never did coolant service
@@javiermaldonado40 No offense, but you're telling yourself that because you don't know anything about cars. People stick with what they know, and you know that if you don't maintain your vehicle, you can have problems. While that's true, you're ignoring all the other problems with them because you just don't know they exist. One of the last ones I replaced had just under 4,000 miles on it. Didn't even make it to the first oil change.
@@052RC He is actually correct, not changing coolant on the 5.7 will cause head gasket issue, coolant gets acidic, and gasket is metal. They stopped putting the 5.7 in Tundras back in 2022, how did you get one with 4k miles?
My 2019 5.0 has 75,000 on it. Oil use is a quart every 2500 miles which is very little for a V8. I have had the top end cleaned and went to premium fuel which made it run much quieter, got rid of throttle knock and cam phaser noise. Gas mileage is surprisingly good at 22-23 mpg spring-fall on the freeway 65 mph with a light load. I wanted the ecoboost but settled for the V8 because of the other options. Now I'm very glad I have the 5.0. Now I plan to keep this truck for a long time.
My 18 has 140,000 on the 5.0 it eats a quart every 1000 but she’s always got fresh oil and redlines daily with a smile. My 04 super duty 5.4 2valve ate a quart every 1000 I bought it with 150,000 and sold it at 230,000 purring like a kitten. Consuming oil I don’t see as an issue as long as you know and keep it topped off.
He would still have the 5.0! I'm with you. Have a 2018 with almost 90k miles. It consumes oil but within the revised specs. So I'm not worried. I change the oil every 5k miles. Started using 5w30 recently
I have a 2020 with 131,000 miles. It consumes about 1 quart every 1000 miles or so. I change my oil every 3500 miles, I’ve been using 5w-30 the past few changes and it’s about the same. I only use 93 or e85 in it, I use sport mode 80% of the time and absolutely beat on it. Just took it on a 3500 mile road trip and it was a smooth drive getting 17.5mpg on 35s and heavy aftermarket wheels. I love this truck, it’s so much fun to drive once you’re “in tune” with the shift points and throttle response
Hey My friend has 2017 5.0 F150. Going through several quarts every 3000 miles or less. It also had knocking noises. Ford did top end warranty repair. Later it started knocking again consuming oil. Ford replaced engine new. They then replaced 10 speed trans when they couldn’t get it to run and drive. What a story. Nice tutorial These fuel management systems in all manufacturers make the issues and problems
Low tension piston rings make all cars oil burners. Also Ford got ahold of a bunch of bad valves for gen 3 Coyotes that caused trouble but I think they fixed that.
It's not the low tension rings but the thin oil. Thin oil and low tension rings don't work together at all. I have an 89 Subaru EA71S engine which has low tension rings, installed in a 79 Subaru DL Wagon. That engine calls for a 10W-50 oil, which is difficult to find. Some brands of 5W-50 oil such as the Mobil 1 version with the Porsche certification, it will burn 1 quart per 1000 miles. Switch to the Mobil 1 5W-50 with the Dexos R certification for the C8 Corvette, it stops burning oil altogether. It won't burn oil with a 15W-50 or 20W-50 either. Slight differences in viscosity make the difference between burning oil or not. Synthetic oil is all it ever gets. In that engine the low tension rings are necessary to keep the ring lands from cracking when decelerating from 7000 RPM+, which was a common problem on the engines with the older design pistons that used the thicker, non low tension rings. They also keep the oil temperature down which is important as there is no oil cooler and basically no room to put one anywhere in that car, or the original car that engine was intended for.
EVERYONE is having problems. EVERYONE. There's not a single OEM that I can blindly say "GO FOR IT ! That's a reliable vehicle !" The 5.0L was the last one to get DOD but still got it at the end and that only means future problems like every other HEMI, LS, LT, et al. Then you have transmissions . . . 🙄🤦♂. It's pretty much a gamble by now. Place your bets, Ladies and Gents !
My 2013 still running strong with close to 200,000 miles, only changed the water pump and sparkplugs at 100,000. Everything else is original even the serpentine belts. I here 2015-2017 5.0 is best v8 engine but my older 13 has been good too.
A co-worker has coyote in his F-150 (the first year it was available). He 357000miles on it. Replace an alternator on it and recently the battery. That's it. Other than regular maintenance items, his truck is running strong.
Ever since I’ve heard of this oil consumption issues with the 18-20 Ford f150 5.0’s I have been changing my oil every 3,000 miles since I’ve owned the truck.
This is a very common problem from 2018 to 2020. The 2017 and older are solid engines. The Eco boost isn’t perfect, but I’d rather put a set of cam phasers in something then put an engine in it and now in a year has catalytic converters will be junk from all the oil that passed through them and that will be $2500 out of pocket Because he’s out of emissions warranty. They burn oil because of the plasmalined cylinders. The exhaust manifold issues on the early eco-boost are typical for any gas engine. They’re way better than anything on a Chrysler hemi or they need exhaust manifolds and gaskets every 30,000 miles. The difference is when an Eco boost needs a manifold that loses boost and you hear a high-pitched squeal because of the back pressure between the manifold and turbo so you pretty much have to fix an eco-boost where you can drive around for two years with an NAV8 with an exhaust leak sounding like crap and getting 3 miles per gallon less . The timing chain stretch issues are completely maintenance related because there’s tons of those engines with three and 400,000 miles on it never had the timing chain issues. I love the coyote. It sounds amazing. Hate to say if you want the most problem for engine you’re gonna have the 3.5 ecoboost . It’s also the only engine in Fords lineup for the F150 that still has a crankshaft driven oil pump. The 18+ 2.7 and 21+ 5.0 both have rubber cog type oil pump belts inside the engine. I’m sorry there’s no reason for that. Apparently you need to use a certain type of oil in those engines so it doesn’t degrade the belt as well.
@@JohnDiMartinoAt your earliest opportunity watch you tuber: “Driving for answers” very detailed video on what “BAD” idea wet belts are it’s a must see Educational Video
Don’t worry about the bit of oil it used , as long as it has plenty of power and torque to pull my 6,000 pound camper. I used 5/30 synthetic oil during the hot summer months and changed out the oil just before late fall . Don’t be afraid to check the oil level every month and top it up . Oil is still cheaper than a new engine
It is my understanding that Ford applied a type of plasma coating to the cylinder walls of the '17-'19 5.0 engines that causes the oil consumption/burning. As far as reman engines, I would think over boring the cylinders eliminates the problem unless the coating is reapplied. Got a '14 5.0, Love it!
In 2018, Ford started using plasma transfer wire arc cylinder walls in the 5.0 along with lower tension piston rings. That combination has led to high oil consumption on a lot of those engines. I done a lot of research on the F-150's before buying one. I really wanted a 2018 or newer but they have this problem and some of the 10 speeds have had issues as well. They also came out in 2018 with direct injection and cylinder deactivation and I'm not a fan of either although Ford seems to have the best systems on those. It seems to be pretty unanimous that the 2015-2017 5.0's are the most reliable modern F-150's. I ended up with a 2015 5.0 6 speed and love it.
@@hellkitty1014 even if I were in the market for a brand new truck, I would be really hesitant to buy one for fear of what kind of problems it would have 5 or 10 years down the road. I'd rather put money in the form of brakes, tires, and general upkeep into a known good used truck than the unknown of a new truck.
@@therealRustyShackleford yep. I would say all 4 truck brands have major varying issues. In the half-ton market, they all seem to have some type of major flaw, even Toyota. In the HD class, Ford continues to have issues with the CP4 shattering fuel systems, Ram is having hydraulic lifters issues(should've never moved away from flat tappet) and in isolated cases, grid heater issues that can destroy the entire engine, and GM is having component issues on the Duramax as well. It's funny how many Ford 7.3s/Ram 5.9s are still on the road from 25 years ago with original components.
Been watching your F150 videos. I just picked up '23 Lariat Powerboost recently. Although I still had some of the factory warranty left I purchased an extended warranty for piece of mind. I hope I never need it.
How about the EPA taking some blame for all the BS regulations they placed on vehicle manufacturers. It is not anybody else's business if I drive 10 miles per gal or 50 miles per gallon.
I had a friend that had a brand new at the time 2004 f150. With the 5.4 l in it. It went through a shitload of oil. For its first oil change it was pretty much empty. He took it to the dealer and they said "oh that is normal seepage. " It wasn't leaking it. I think it was eating it. But they didn't want to warranty shit. Damn ford! They're really good trucks and crappy trucks at the same time.
A simple form of regulation that would fix this is to make it illegal to have a new car loan longer than the bumper to bumper warranty. It would create competition to make more durable vehicles.
The average car can last well beyond the warranty. There are millions of cars on the road today that have outlasted their warranty and not all of them have had the best maintenance history. Statistically speaking, your car will likely drive far beyond the warranty if you keep up with the minimal maintenance.
People try to make planned obsolescence sound bad but it's really an inevitable reality. Do you know how much it would cost A company if they were still trying to support products they made over two decades ago. As an example, Apple could never do lifetime support of their laptops because at some point the cost of supporting said product would far outweigh the actual product. Not to mention the strain on internal resources and advancements in technology.
The engine probably has those low-tension piston rings which reduce friction and pressure against the cylinder walls but have a greater tendency to allow blow-by - especially with the use of low-viscosity motor oils recommended by the manufacturer. Hence the oil consumption. A common symptom of the newer engines which have to comply with the latest CAFE regulations.
That's not why they burn oil. Those motors have 2 fuel injection systems. The GDI system washes the oil off the cylinder walls, and a port system was installed to clean the top of the valves due to carbon build up. They also upped the oil from 8qts to 8.75 and designed a new oil pan that has a section of it walled off for the dipstick. There's a tiny pin hole in the wall that takes a long time to leak out. If you shut the motor off and check the oil, it makes it look like there's more oil in it.
My 2018 F-150 had the same issue, used 5 quarts of oil before its first oil change. Ford knows about this issue, it’s very common with the coyote. They should good will this, they know it’s an issue.
Extending oil service intervals to please the EPA hasn't been going well when combined with lower quality fuels, poor QC and direct injection. 5,000 mile oil changes will help. As will using better fuels than what's at the budget gas stations.
Gen II Coyote had all types of issues and they're really starting to show up big time now since they're beginning to age. The Gen 1 Coyote is the way to go, 2013-2016 being the sweet spot. That's why you see so many still on the road. The current 21-25 Coyote will probably be even worse because they added cylinder deactivation. I know everyone lands GM and Ford for keeping V8s around, but they're not the same trusty, bulletproof Coyotes and LS' from back in the day.
My 2012 focus uses about a 3rd of a dipstick worth of oil between oil changes. It did it since I bought it with 120k on it. Now it has about 200k on it, and it consumes the same amount of oil. It's the nature of these modern gas engines with low tension oil rings. Edit: I change my oil every 5.5k.
The 5.0 coyote motor is virtually bulletproof. Very few issues. With thousands upon thousands of these trucks on the road, there is bound to some issues.
Are you kidding? Bulletproof? Maybe you can explain what that means to me. I work for Ford, do mostly heavy line work. I have a senior master level certification. Its the highest one Ford has. The last thing I would call these motors is bulletproof. I call them job security. We have people waiting 6 months in some cases, for a new motor and a spot in the shop to swap it out.
@@052RCugh I was looking at getting a moderately new (21-up) F-150 in the next few months, what do you think has been the most reliable? Coming out of a 7.3 Gas f-250 that I sold because I don’t need the 3/4 ton anymore. That one was perfect for 4 years and 60K miles. I was thinking the coyote because it’s moderately more simple with no Turbos lol.
@@Klf173just bought me a 2024 F-150 lariat today with the 5.0. I traded in my 2019 Ram 1500 with 80k miles on her and she will be missed only issues I had was the exhaust manifold headers cracking and my rear end went out at 60k miles due to driveshaft seal leaking all my fluid out smh. Otherwise I loved that hemi.
@@dailygrinders89 oh nice! I’d say 90% of the lariats I see on the lots here are 3.5 Ecoboost. I’d rather have the 6.5 bed too and those seem to be few and far between.
@@Klf1732023 5.0 owner here with 50K miles, zero issues. In terms of the engine, and the 10R80. The oil consumption issues on the Gen 4s are very isolated, and the only issue I've seen a few oil filter housings having porosity, which has a tsb and is only on 23 models (mine was not affected). I've check my oil every week, and not a single drop missing. The Gen 4s have a lot of fixes over the Gen 3s, and people saying the cylinder deactivation and oil pump belts being an issue, the cylinder deactivation is actuated in the head and not in the block, which in the GM world, would seize the lifter, eating a cam and causing catastrophic failure. These are completely different than Dodge and GM. The wet oil pump belt, these have been on 2.7s since they were put on sale, and very few issues on these. 200k miles on these 2.7s and even the new gen 4s reaching 100K territory, and no issues or very few. The issues I've seen common on Gen 4s thus far, are VCT solenoid issues, which is a pretty simple fix.
That TSB being shown fixed my 19 F150 using oil after around 25k miles - a qt every 800 miles. And fixed a cam phaser rattle that only appeared in cool weather after driving away while engine was cold, going up an incline under moderate acceleration. Sounded like pinging but was not. Went away approximately 1/2 mile. This rattle started around 15k miles. This TSB reprogrammed the vacuum valve (pcv?).
20 years Ford Parts and Service experience. When an engine is “ remanufactured” by Ford it is broken down into parts and the parts are thrown on a rack. The parts do not stay with the same block. Each part is inspected and goes to QC. Then what is done to each part is determined. They recycle a ton of engines and engine parts. So each part on the reman engine wasn’t born on that engine. They used to bore everything .030 to keep things consistent. They also have a full dyno facility at the factory. Every engine is within the factory power rating specs guaranteed. Also a Ford Reman is the only way to insure you have all the part updates.
I’ve got a 2018 that has oil consumption issues since new. It however has not gotten worse so I know how often to add oil. Currently at 117k miles and it uses about a quart every 2500 miles. I change the oil every 5k so I add oil at 2500 miles and I started using 5W30.
Man this is old news.....the 5.0 oil consumption issue Bern known for a while.The tech said he'd still prefer a 5.0 over Ecoboost......just because it's a v 8 he says
That's the main reason most people prefer the Coyote, sound. The power delivery is next and reliability seems to be less of a reason not to choose an Ecoboost.
@@Jay-me7gw Some people like a linear power delivery versus shuffling between off boost and strong torque surge. It certainly takes time to get used to a turbo engine. I have a Coyote Mustang and a 2.0 Ecoboost in my daily driver.
I believe this is for 18-20 5.0's . I had a 2020 with this same problem. I got fed up going back and forth to dealer so I finally traded it in for a 23' 5.0 and so far no issues. I also have a 16 mustang gt with no issues.
It’s not that GM discontinued the fuel management, it’s that they couldn’t install them on 2022 because of the world wide shortage of semiconductors. Like Ford, GM had thousands of new trucks piling up and wind up selling those trucks without fuel management-which GM buyers were happy without it. Lifters were still prone to failure though.
That is true. They were offering $50 credits on 21-22 5.3/6.2s because they couldn't install during that time due to shortage. And you're right, the lifters are still failing.
15- 17 are the best coyotes. The later ones are still great but some 18 - 20 trucks had cylinders that were not round. 18 was the first year for the plasma sprayed bores. Nissan 5.6 and coyote are the most reliable 1/2 ton engines in 24 but of course you can’t get a Titan going forward.
Company xl 4x4 seem to develop timing chain issues. Had one go down at 153,000 miles. Several of the other trucks are making similar sounds with a luging/ chatter at part throttle. Trucks are all 2019/2020 5.0's.
2018-2020 model year Coyotes do this. Had my 2020 motor eat oil just inside of 5 weeks went from full level on dipstick to sending CEL’s for cam sensors and misfires. Which when checked had nothing on dipstick. Motor replaced under warranty with 46000kms on it. Until new motor arrived I was able to continue driving it with the computer flash update to “keep throttle body plate from closing fully” to stop crankcase pressure from building up and pushing past rings and burning off on deceleration. That’s where the oil is going. Out the tailpipe. The longer dipstick is to help you see how low it is in block below the ADD line to make sure you don’t run it dry dry in there. PS new motor swapped in now and “NO fix” is present other than the reprogrammed ECM to keep throttle plate of a hair. 😢
@@Juanito548 no it does not BUT only because they did the same ECM update to the new motor as well that programs the throttle body to stay just slightly open when you let off the gas and then it won’t build up any positive crankcase pressure like it would if they throttle body is fully closed. Let’s call it a bandaid fix to a problem that ford came up with. But no I’m not burning through oil anymore. Sidenote. The old engine that they replaced wouldn’t burn oil either after they updated the ECM to keep the throttle plate open but they replaced engine anyways cause some damage was done by running it low on oil when I didn’t know it was burning through it so fast all of the sudden
If the engines have plasma arc cylinder coatings I doubt they would rebuild/ re-line the cylinders. This same process is used on the RAM /Jeep Hurricane engines. While the coatings are extremely hard, they are only the thickness of a human hair. They claim an extremely modest weight savings over iron sleeves. I’m guessing the Hurricanes have a potential to be oil burners too, if these thin coatings are damaged or low tension rings do a poor job of sealing.
My gen1 (2011) f150 Coyote has 296k miles and climbing everyday. It has full bolt ons, tuned cince around 90k miles. Ive replaced the ac compressor and heater core. No other issues at all whatsoever with almost 300k miles. And i walk gm's and rams easily
@@freedomisntfree_44 well if we are comparing "what's currently being made" than you're wrong about the 5 liter being one of the best engines. The current 5 liters burn oil and have cam phaser issues.
I had the 5.0 in my 2019 replaced this year back in june due to excessive oil consumption. I was going through 2 qts every 2k miles. The engine had 2 cylinders that were down half on their compression leakdown tests. Now the new engine doesn't use any oil. Also my fuel mpg has went up at least 2 mpg.
I have a 2018 5.0 doesn’t burn any oil. I change oil every 3000 miles. This guy drives around with his check engine light on with only 3 quarts. Any wonder why he is in the shop?
Your question is a good one i have a 2018 that I just had to put a new 10 speed in and never had oil issues and now i do so if anyone could answer that I'd appreciate but I wondered about there transmission do they reman a junk one or junk em
i think all engines have a core charge and if not they remanufacture them and sell them cuz when you go to buy new engines they give you the choice of new crate motor or remanufactured
depends because the newer gen 2.7 ALSO went to a wet-belt for the oil pump AND I 'believe' the 2.7 also has the cylinder deactivation bullshit like the newer 5.0
2018 F150 coyote uses about 3 quarts/1000 miles with 5w20, switched to 10w30 and helped some (with computer update), seen where some have switched to 10w50, not sure if I'll try that
The fact you sound okay with this is bothersome to me. A 2018 is not that old and it should not burn that much oil. All these comments have me rethinking a new F150
@bigd835 unions are what is wrong 50 bucks an hour for the guy that sweeping the floor 75 bucks an hour for the guys install 2 screws on a assembly line 60 bucks an hour for the guy that makes the coffee that has to be made up somewhere else and quality control is the only place to cut can't wait for the production to completely be out of this country I'll gladly pay the tariffs to teach entitled Americans a lesson on how much they are worth NOT AS much as they believe
Can’t say for sure on the gm and ram issues being 100% cylinder deactivation because when they changed to that setup they also changed to thinner oil so there maybe multiple items causing gm and ram truck problems 5 liter coyote issues started with the plasma spay liners
One thing to realize is that most 5.0 coyote engines have plasma sprayed cylinder liners instead of traditional steel sleeved ones like what GM uses for example in their aluminum blocks. A Plasma sprayed cylinder liner is the cheap way to do it, and they are extremely thin. This process is nothing new. Some German auto makers such as Porsche started using it in the 1960s to save money. Light service, low cost, air cooled, lawnmower engines also use this process. Consequently, these engines had relatively short service lives. If the engine has ever been overheated severely or is generally worked hard the liner will wear away relatively quickly and you will be into the soft aluminum block. When you get an engine that is using a quart of oil in a little over 300 miles it is highly likely that the cylinders are worn out of spec. With this condition, you will have an excessive amount of blow by past the piston rings. Some of the oil that does not get burned will end up in the intake through the PVC system. An update with a computer reflash will do nothing to help you with this condition.
I have a GMC Sierra with 250k and it drinks 1 qt every 3000 miles.2010 5.3 4 wheel drive. No other problems. Transfer case needs to be serviced but no other issues.
V8 the way to go! PCM update?? MMM interesting, and a bigger dipstick. Well keep on running them! its a solid engine the engineers just need to get their PC boys in on the game! So they are switching out the engine luckily they have an extended warranty to pay for it all! Don't forget to look up the extend warranty for granger i think it was, they are just like the factory warranty's your just not getting bend over at the dealerships! FYI Definitely right on the the days' are gone for the 250k to 300k miles on trucks!
I got rid of my 2019. It was a headache. Oil consumption was one of many issues with that engine. Injectors, cylinder head, intake manifold,02 sensor,spark plugs, and the ECM😅. P0301 code rough idle. Under 60k miles
I saw a 2019 mustang 5.0 that started to go through 3 quarts every 5000 miles starting at 35,000 miles. No leaks, no power loss, no smoke, no smell. Same situation as that f150. Only things i can guess is that oil is getting in the high pressure fuel pump driven off a passenger side camshaft. The pump rattles like a 2 stroke mixed with too much oil. Or the ring pack is wrong for the high pressure fuel system. Tsb removing vacuum will give lower brake pedal. Get the extended warranty! And Merry Christmas to you, your family, and all the viewers!
The older modular 4.6 took what 6 quarts? These coyotes take close to 9 whats with that? 2011-2016 no oil issues its the 18+ with the plasma bore bs when this started.
weird my 2019 Mustang GT was consuming oil and i just filled it up thought it was normal but i was racing it. I got rid of it couple months ago and got a 2021 Mach 1 and treated it the same way and no oil consumption nor cayote tick
I love the looks of Fords but having to remove the cab for engine replacement is insane to me. Is this required for other American trucks? I know GM did this for camaro,firebird and corvette, which was dumb too.
My old '04 FX4 had that issue, but it was a Triton 5.4L 3V. My '14 FX4 5.0L doesn't have that consumption issue. I check my oil. That seems to be the issue on the 13th Gen refresh, and the 14th Gen. That wasn't as much of a problem in the '15-'17s.
To answer your question, no. You get a new motor. Sometimes you get a short block, sometimes a long block. Sometimes the motor gets an update to fix the issue, sometimes they don't. Also, I wouldn't go by too much of what the tech in the video said. He doesn't have a lot of experience. You don't have to be a high end tech to swap these motors out. It looks impressive because he has the cab off, but its only held on by 6 bolts. To swap the engine, you pull up the workshop manual on your PC, and it gives you step by step instructions for every single nut and bolt for the entire job. Its a big job, but its not that difficult. You only need to be a mid level tech to do them.
When you get the government constantly increasing fuel mileage requirements then the manufacturers keep having to come up with more ways to meet them. First they do easy changes that are pretty much fail safe. Then as times go by it becomes harder and less reliable as the changes become more technical. Why can't we just leave well enough alone and punish the real polluters which are countries like China and India.
I have a 2021 f-150 with the 5.0. No oil consumption. Just the normal slight drop on the dipstick when it’s due for an oil change. I run amsoil signature series 5w-30. I have a few god friends that are ford techs. The oil consumption issue is the only consistent thing that comes up and it’s not that common here.
Most of the problems with the hemi & LS V8s stem from dirty oil. The manufacturers say you can go over 8k miles, but I personally change synthetic oil every 5k with no problems. Coyote engines, if run high rpm's, develop piston slap causing scratches in the cylinders. These engines can not be bored because there are no metal sleeves. I personally think the Fords are worse.
2017 gen 2 Coyote with 182k miles. Doesn’t use any oil between changes. So far, I have put no money in repairs on this vehicle (other than maintenance)
In our construction company we have a 2014 5.0 It has 100k on it and has worked everyday of its service. Tows a 12ft utility trailer loaded with tools, minimum 15 sheets plywood, supplies, ladders, aluminun brake, crew of at least 4. This truck has never been down either then a swollen fuse which is a known issue but never missed a day. It has been maintained service wise. Plus you cant tell its running sometimes because it is so smooth.
100% agree. The older Gen 5.0L Coyote motors were solid. I also had a 2014 F-150 5L with just over 100K miles when it met with an unfortunate traffic incident. Kept up with regular maintenance (oil/fluids/brakes/plugs/coolant) never had any issues with the engine or drivetrain. Did not burn oil! I was planning on driving it until the body rotted away. Hated to lose that vehicle.
I have a 14 5.0, three '15 Ram 5.7s in our courier fleet. They've been flawless. It seems like the Ford and Ram were building their best during this time frame.
'14 5.0 4x, 165k. Got the lash adjuster and follower tick at 125k, switched to 5w30. It quieted down and finally at the 165k oil change it had burned one whole quart by the time the 10k interval rolled. Will be replacing some cam followers this spring, thinking Melling brand.
My '14 5.0 has 225,000. I tow a car hauler occasionally. I keep it well maintained. Great truck.
Same here, '14 5.0. Absolutely love it! 68K miles.
I own a 2016 F150 5.0 Coyote with just over 100,000 miles. I’ve done the usual maintenance items of spark plugs, coolant change and had to replace the water pump, I change the oil every 5,000 miles and use Motorcraft oil. It still runs and performs well and does not use an unusual amount of oil between oil changes, I’ve been very happy with it. I have a friend with a 2016 F150 eco boost engine that just hit 100,000 miles, he just paid $5,000 for the 100,000 mile “eco boost tuneup” replacing both turbos, broken exhaust manifold bolts, etc, I’m glad I bought the 5.0. One other note, I just changed the transmission fluid and I was very impressed with the lack of clutch material in the pan and the fluid was not burnt or overly discolored.
I just bought a 2016 myself with the V8 and 90k. My research makes me think the 2015, 16 and 17 with the 6 speed were the best years.
Thanks for asking the tech the right questions. My 2021 Tundra with the bullet-proof 5.7 has lived up to its reputation, but I still bought an extended Toyota factory warranty as an extra layer of protection. If I ever had to part with it, I'd go back to the Ford F150 with the Coyote engine all day long. I've personally seen and heard nothing but bad things about GMs truck v8s, not to mention their late model fuel pump module failures on the newer trucks. The Hurricanes in the Ram trucks are already having issues, and they're too new on the market to risk my hard earned money on.
In 2021 Ford ruined the Coyote by going to a wet rubber oil pump drive belt and cylinder deactivation. If you are not familiar with the total shit show of wet rubber belts, watch Driving 4 Answers great video on the subject. If not familiar with cylinder deactivation disasters, just ask any hemi or chevy owner how they like their $5k cam and lifter changes from it. Then see if they think the tiny gas savings paid off for them?
@@craigg4246Wet Belt Number “1” deal breaker The video put out by you tuber driving for answers is a “MUST SEE” video
It all goes down to maintenance I have 3 5.7 Toyotas in the shop 2 tundras and one Lexus with over 100k and the head gaskets gave out cause they never did coolant service
@@javiermaldonado40 No offense, but you're telling yourself that because you don't know anything about cars. People stick with what they know, and you know that if you don't maintain your vehicle, you can have problems. While that's true, you're ignoring all the other problems with them because you just don't know they exist. One of the last ones I replaced had just under 4,000 miles on it. Didn't even make it to the first oil change.
@@052RC He is actually correct, not changing coolant on the 5.7 will cause head gasket issue, coolant gets acidic, and gasket is metal. They stopped putting the 5.7 in Tundras back in 2022, how did you get one with 4k miles?
My 2019 5.0 has 75,000 on it. Oil use is a quart every 2500 miles which is very little for a V8. I have had the top end cleaned and went to premium fuel which made it run much quieter, got rid of throttle knock and cam phaser noise. Gas mileage is surprisingly good at 22-23 mpg spring-fall on the freeway 65 mph with a light load. I wanted the ecoboost but settled for the V8 because of the other options. Now I'm very glad I have the 5.0. Now I plan to keep this truck for a long time.
My 18 has 140,000 on the 5.0 it eats a quart every 1000 but she’s always got fresh oil and redlines daily with a smile. My 04 super duty 5.4 2valve ate a quart every 1000 I bought it with 150,000 and sold it at 230,000 purring like a kitten. Consuming oil I don’t see as an issue as long as you know and keep it topped off.
He would still have the 5.0! I'm with you. Have a 2018 with almost 90k miles. It consumes oil but within the revised specs. So I'm not worried. I change the oil every 5k miles. Started using 5w30 recently
I have a 2020 with 131,000 miles. It consumes about 1 quart every 1000 miles or so. I change my oil every 3500 miles, I’ve been using 5w-30 the past few changes and it’s about the same.
I only use 93 or e85 in it, I use sport mode 80% of the time and absolutely beat on it.
Just took it on a 3500 mile road trip and it was a smooth drive getting 17.5mpg on 35s and heavy aftermarket wheels. I love this truck, it’s so much fun to drive once you’re “in tune” with the shift points and throttle response
Hey My friend has 2017 5.0 F150. Going through several quarts every 3000 miles or less. It also had knocking noises. Ford did top end warranty repair. Later it started knocking again consuming oil.
Ford replaced engine new. They then replaced 10 speed trans when they couldn’t get it to run and drive. What a story. Nice tutorial
These fuel management systems in all manufacturers make the issues and problems
2018 was the first year of the ten speed. 2017 trucks did not have it, they have the six speed. I have a 2017 5.0 with the six speed.
Yes my mistake it was a 10 speed so it’s a 2018
@@josephpuchel6497 I was not sure if it was a mistake or not lol. Cheers mate
Honda too with there VCM.
Low tension piston rings make all cars oil burners. Also Ford got ahold of a bunch of bad valves for gen 3 Coyotes that caused trouble but I think they fixed that.
It's not the low tension rings but the thin oil. Thin oil and low tension rings don't work together at all. I have an 89 Subaru EA71S engine which has low tension rings, installed in a 79 Subaru DL Wagon. That engine calls for a 10W-50 oil, which is difficult to find. Some brands of 5W-50 oil such as the Mobil 1 version with the Porsche certification, it will burn 1 quart per 1000 miles. Switch to the Mobil 1 5W-50 with the Dexos R certification for the C8 Corvette, it stops burning oil altogether. It won't burn oil with a 15W-50 or 20W-50 either. Slight differences in viscosity make the difference between burning oil or not. Synthetic oil is all it ever gets. In that engine the low tension rings are necessary to keep the ring lands from cracking when decelerating from 7000 RPM+, which was a common problem on the engines with the older design pistons that used the thicker, non low tension rings. They also keep the oil temperature down which is important as there is no oil cooler and basically no room to put one anywhere in that car, or the original car that engine was intended for.
EVERYONE is having problems. EVERYONE.
There's not a single OEM that I can blindly say "GO FOR IT ! That's a reliable vehicle !"
The 5.0L was the last one to get DOD but still got it at the end and that only means future problems like every other HEMI, LS, LT, et al.
Then you have transmissions . . . 🙄🤦♂.
It's pretty much a gamble by now. Place your bets, Ladies and Gents !
My 2013 still running strong with close to 200,000 miles, only changed the water pump and sparkplugs at 100,000. Everything else is original even the serpentine belts. I here 2015-2017 5.0 is best v8 engine but my older 13 has been good too.
13-15 are the best Coyotes plus Ford's 6R80 trans was bulletproof during these years.
A co-worker has coyote in his F-150 (the first year it was available). He 357000miles on it. Replace an alternator on it and recently the battery. That's it. Other than regular maintenance items, his truck is running strong.
My 2013 has been fine. But its on its 3rd battery for some reason.
Ever since I’ve heard of this oil consumption issues with the 18-20 Ford f150 5.0’s I have been changing my oil every 3,000 miles since I’ve owned the truck.
When I worked at a Ford dealership, this is very very rare for a coyote v8 have any problems.
This is a very common problem from 2018 to 2020. The 2017 and older are solid engines. The Eco boost isn’t perfect, but I’d rather put a set of cam phasers in something then put an engine in it and now in a year has catalytic converters will be junk from all the oil that passed through them and that will be $2500 out of pocket Because he’s out of emissions warranty. They burn oil because of the plasmalined cylinders. The exhaust manifold issues on the early eco-boost are typical for any gas engine. They’re way better than anything on a Chrysler hemi or they need exhaust manifolds and gaskets every 30,000 miles. The difference is when an Eco boost needs a manifold that loses boost and you hear a high-pitched squeal because of the back pressure between the manifold and turbo so you pretty much have to fix an eco-boost where you can drive around for two years with an NAV8 with an exhaust leak sounding like crap and getting 3 miles per gallon less . The timing chain stretch issues are completely maintenance related because there’s tons of those engines with three and 400,000 miles on it never had the timing chain issues. I love the coyote. It sounds amazing. Hate to say if you want the most problem for engine you’re gonna have the 3.5 ecoboost . It’s also the only engine in Fords lineup for the F150 that still has a crankshaft driven oil pump. The 18+ 2.7 and 21+ 5.0 both have rubber cog type oil pump belts inside the engine. I’m sorry there’s no reason for that. Apparently you need to use a certain type of oil in those engines so it doesn’t degrade the belt as well.
@@JohnDiMartinois the oil motorcraft OEM oil because there is nothing special about it ?
Not rare on 18-20 coyotes
@@JohnDiMartinoAt your earliest opportunity watch you tuber: “Driving for answers” very detailed video on what “BAD” idea wet belts are it’s a must see Educational Video
Good reporting ty. Sure is a difference in personalities between Ford tech and the big guy at Ram....of course appreciate all top notch mechanics!!
Don’t worry about the bit of oil it used , as long as it has plenty of power and torque to pull my 6,000 pound camper. I used 5/30 synthetic oil during the hot summer months and changed out the oil just before late fall . Don’t be afraid to check the oil level every month and top it up . Oil is still cheaper than a new engine
It is my understanding that Ford applied a type of plasma coating to the cylinder walls of the '17-'19 5.0 engines that causes the oil consumption/burning.
As far as reman engines, I would think over boring the cylinders eliminates the problem unless the coating is reapplied.
Got a '14 5.0, Love it!
2017 was the last of that gen engine. The 18’s were the start of the new gen and engine design.
This makes my 2003 5.4 look even better.
In 2018, Ford started using plasma transfer wire arc cylinder walls in the 5.0 along with lower tension piston rings. That combination has led to high oil consumption on a lot of those engines. I done a lot of research on the F-150's before buying one. I really wanted a 2018 or newer but they have this problem and some of the 10 speeds have had issues as well. They also came out in 2018 with direct injection and cylinder deactivation and I'm not a fan of either although Ford seems to have the best systems on those. It seems to be pretty unanimous that the 2015-2017 5.0's are the most reliable modern F-150's. I ended up with a 2015 5.0 6 speed and love it.
Ford had to buy back a ton of 18-19 Mustang 5.0s because of this very issue.
@@hellkitty1014 even if I were in the market for a brand new truck, I would be really hesitant to buy one for fear of what kind of problems it would have 5 or 10 years down the road. I'd rather put money in the form of brakes, tires, and general upkeep into a known good used truck than the unknown of a new truck.
I have a 22 I got 23 it hasn’t burned a drop even when towing over max sometimes gen 4 is pretty solid, they changed oil weight and added a ring
@@therealRustyShackleford yep. I would say all 4 truck brands have major varying issues. In the half-ton market, they all seem to have some type of major flaw, even Toyota. In the HD class, Ford continues to have issues with the CP4 shattering fuel systems, Ram is having hydraulic lifters issues(should've never moved away from flat tappet) and in isolated cases, grid heater issues that can destroy the entire engine, and GM is having component issues on the Duramax as well. It's funny how many Ford 7.3s/Ram 5.9s are still on the road from 25 years ago with original components.
@@banana_phone4228 I hope they prove to be good trucks. I might want a newer one someday.
Thank God I saw this video I was going to buy one of these tmrw!
Been watching your F150 videos. I just picked up '23 Lariat Powerboost recently. Although I still had some of the factory warranty left I purchased an extended warranty for piece of mind. I hope I never need it.
Merry Christmas! I wish you and your family the best of luck. God bless.
How about the EPA taking some blame for all the BS regulations they placed on vehicle manufacturers. It is not anybody else's business if I drive 10 miles per gal or 50 miles per gallon.
I had a friend that had a brand new at the time 2004 f150. With the 5.4 l in it. It went through a shitload of oil. For its first oil change it was pretty much empty. He took it to the dealer and they said "oh that is normal seepage. " It wasn't leaking it. I think it was eating it. But they didn't want to warranty shit. Damn ford! They're really good trucks and crappy trucks at the same time.
Planned obsolescence needs to be illegal.
A simple form of regulation that would fix this is to make it illegal to have a new car loan longer than the bumper to bumper warranty. It would create competition to make more durable vehicles.
The average car can last well beyond the warranty. There are millions of cars on the road today that have outlasted their warranty and not all of them have had the best maintenance history. Statistically speaking, your car will likely drive far beyond the warranty if you keep up with the minimal maintenance.
People try to make planned obsolescence sound bad but it's really an inevitable reality. Do you know how much it would cost A company if they were still trying to support products they made over two decades ago. As an example, Apple could never do lifetime support of their laptops because at some point the cost of supporting said product would far outweigh the actual product. Not to mention the strain on internal resources and advancements in technology.
We need a half way broke motor head as president ❤❤@@malcolmn.5222
Damn rights it should be illegal
3:50, even with the issues the coyote is better than the alternative
The engine probably has those low-tension piston rings which reduce friction and pressure against the cylinder walls but have a greater tendency to allow blow-by - especially with the use of low-viscosity motor oils recommended by the manufacturer. Hence the oil consumption. A common symptom of the newer engines which have to comply with the latest CAFE regulations.
That's not why they burn oil. Those motors have 2 fuel injection systems. The GDI system washes the oil off the cylinder walls, and a port system was installed to clean the top of the valves due to carbon build up. They also upped the oil from 8qts to 8.75 and designed a new oil pan that has a section of it walled off for the dipstick. There's a tiny pin hole in the wall that takes a long time to leak out. If you shut the motor off and check the oil, it makes it look like there's more oil in it.
180,000 miles here in coyote, never cumsomed anything but chevys
What year is your pickup?
Awesome comment lol
My 2018 F-150 had the same issue, used 5 quarts of oil before its first oil change. Ford knows about this issue, it’s very common with the coyote. They should good will this, they know it’s an issue.
Extending oil service intervals to please the EPA hasn't been going well when combined with lower quality fuels, poor QC and direct injection. 5,000 mile oil changes will help. As will using better fuels than what's at the budget gas stations.
Gen II Coyote had all types of issues and they're really starting to show up big time now since they're beginning to age. The Gen 1 Coyote is the way to go, 2013-2016 being the sweet spot. That's why you see so many still on the road.
The current 21-25 Coyote will probably be even worse because they added cylinder deactivation. I know everyone lands GM and Ford for keeping V8s around, but they're not the same trusty, bulletproof Coyotes and LS' from back in the day.
love my 2013 5.0
My gen 1 5.0 was good till it broke a piston ring.warranty refused to fix it.
My 2011 coyote was great besides the loud engine knock sound it made
Great content going and interviewing techs. I will check out move vids, Like gm pulling cab for a timing chain
The Ford TSB for oil consumption: if oil level low, install a longer dip stick 😂😂😂
Wouldn’t it be a shorter dipstick
If the oil level is low…. only a longer dipstick will reach it in the oil pan.🙄
My 2012 focus uses about a 3rd of a dipstick worth of oil between oil changes. It did it since I bought it with 120k on it. Now it has about 200k on it, and it consumes the same amount of oil. It's the nature of these modern gas engines with low tension oil rings.
Edit: I change my oil every 5.5k.
The 5.0 coyote motor is virtually bulletproof. Very few issues. With thousands upon thousands of these trucks on the road, there is bound to some issues.
Are you kidding? Bulletproof? Maybe you can explain what that means to me. I work for Ford, do mostly heavy line work. I have a senior master level certification. Its the highest one Ford has. The last thing I would call these motors is bulletproof. I call them job security. We have people waiting 6 months in some cases, for a new motor and a spot in the shop to swap it out.
@@052RCugh I was looking at getting a moderately new (21-up) F-150 in the next few months, what do you think has been the most reliable? Coming out of a 7.3 Gas f-250 that I sold because I don’t need the 3/4 ton anymore. That one was perfect for 4 years and 60K miles. I was thinking the coyote because it’s moderately more simple with no Turbos lol.
@@Klf173just bought me a 2024 F-150 lariat today with the 5.0. I traded in my 2019 Ram 1500 with 80k miles on her and she will be missed only issues I had was the exhaust manifold headers cracking and my rear end went out at 60k miles due to driveshaft seal leaking all my fluid out smh. Otherwise I loved that hemi.
@@dailygrinders89 oh nice! I’d say 90% of the lariats I see on the lots here are 3.5 Ecoboost. I’d rather have the 6.5 bed too and those seem to be few and far between.
@@Klf1732023 5.0 owner here with 50K miles, zero issues. In terms of the engine, and the 10R80. The oil consumption issues on the Gen 4s are very isolated, and the only issue I've seen a few oil filter housings having porosity, which has a tsb and is only on 23 models (mine was not affected). I've check my oil every week, and not a single drop missing. The Gen 4s have a lot of fixes over the Gen 3s, and people saying the cylinder deactivation and oil pump belts being an issue, the cylinder deactivation is actuated in the head and not in the block, which in the GM world, would seize the lifter, eating a cam and causing catastrophic failure. These are completely different than Dodge and GM. The wet oil pump belt, these have been on 2.7s since they were put on sale, and very few issues on these. 200k miles on these 2.7s and even the new gen 4s reaching 100K territory, and no issues or very few.
The issues I've seen common on Gen 4s thus far, are VCT solenoid issues, which is a pretty simple fix.
If you have a good running vehicle, keep it!!! The brand new one's are like playing Russian roulette. Good "F"ing luck with it.
That TSB being shown fixed my 19 F150 using oil after around 25k miles - a qt every 800 miles. And fixed a cam phaser rattle that only appeared in cool weather after driving away while engine was cold, going up an incline under moderate acceleration. Sounded like pinging but was not. Went away approximately 1/2 mile. This rattle started around 15k miles.
This TSB reprogrammed the vacuum valve (pcv?).
20 years Ford Parts and Service experience. When an engine is “ remanufactured” by Ford it is broken down into parts and the parts are thrown on a rack. The parts do not stay with the same block. Each part is inspected and goes to QC. Then what is done to each part is determined. They recycle a ton of engines and engine parts. So each part on the reman engine wasn’t born on that engine. They used to bore everything .030 to keep things consistent. They also have a full dyno facility at the factory. Every engine is within the factory power rating specs guaranteed. Also a Ford Reman is the only way to insure you have all the part updates.
I’ve got a 2018 that has oil consumption issues since new. It however has not gotten worse so I know how often to add oil. Currently at 117k miles and it uses about a quart every 2500 miles. I change the oil every 5k so I add oil at 2500 miles and I started using 5W30.
It’s incredible, every manufacturer seems to be having reliability issues, even Toyota.
Man this is old news.....the 5.0 oil consumption issue Bern known for a while.The tech said he'd still prefer a 5.0 over Ecoboost......just because it's a v 8 he says
That's the main reason most people prefer the Coyote, sound. The power delivery is next and reliability seems to be less of a reason not to choose an Ecoboost.
Yeah. Click bait. I thought it'd be issues with the wet belt
@highwayman1218 exactly
@@302Mustang13 Power delivery is not one of the reasons to choose a 5.0 over a 3.5 Ecoboost.
@@Jay-me7gw Some people like a linear power delivery versus shuffling between off boost and strong torque surge. It certainly takes time to get used to a turbo engine. I have a Coyote Mustang and a 2.0 Ecoboost in my daily driver.
I believe this is for 18-20 5.0's . I had a 2020 with this same problem. I got fed up going back and forth to dealer so I finally traded it in for a 23' 5.0 and so far no issues. I also have a 16 mustang gt with no issues.
It’s not that GM discontinued the fuel management, it’s that they couldn’t install them on 2022 because of the world wide shortage of semiconductors. Like Ford, GM had thousands of new trucks piling up and wind up selling those trucks without fuel management-which GM buyers were happy without it. Lifters were still prone to failure though.
That is true. They were offering $50 credits on 21-22 5.3/6.2s because they couldn't install during that time due to shortage. And you're right, the lifters are still failing.
Great Review and Video!
What aftermarket warranty did the customer have?
Jb great video reviews you do thank you merry Christmas to you and your family
15- 17 are the best coyotes. The later ones are still great but some 18 - 20 trucks had cylinders that were not round. 18 was the first year for the plasma sprayed bores.
Nissan 5.6 and coyote are the most reliable 1/2 ton engines in 24 but of course you can’t get a Titan going forward.
Company xl 4x4 seem to develop timing chain issues. Had one go down at 153,000 miles. Several of the other trucks are making similar sounds with a luging/ chatter at part throttle. Trucks are all 2019/2020 5.0's.
2018-2020 model year Coyotes do this. Had my 2020 motor eat oil just inside of 5 weeks went from full level on dipstick to sending CEL’s for cam sensors and misfires. Which when checked had nothing on dipstick. Motor replaced under warranty with 46000kms on it. Until new motor arrived I was able to continue driving it with the computer flash update to “keep throttle body plate from closing fully” to stop crankcase pressure from building up and pushing past rings and burning off on deceleration. That’s where the oil is going. Out the tailpipe. The longer dipstick is to help you see how low it is in block below the ADD line to make sure you don’t run it dry dry in there. PS new motor swapped in now and “NO fix” is present other than the reprogrammed ECM to keep throttle plate of a hair. 😢
does the new motor consume oil?
@@Juanito548 no it does not BUT only because they did the same ECM update to the new motor as well that programs the throttle body to stay just slightly open when you let off the gas and then it won’t build up any positive crankcase pressure like it would if they throttle body is fully closed.
Let’s call it a bandaid fix to a problem that ford came up with.
But no I’m not burning through oil anymore. Sidenote. The old engine that they replaced wouldn’t burn oil either after they updated the ECM to keep the throttle plate open but they replaced engine anyways cause some damage was done by running it low on oil when I didn’t know it was burning through it so fast all of the sudden
Check you oil frequently and add a catch can ASAP.
Company work truck, 2019 5.0 with 70,000 miles needed new cam phasers and chains. Fleet maintained
That is not good
I have a 2011 f150 5.0 stock everything but the supercharger and ice box ive put 125k on this truck since the build without any issues
If the engines have plasma arc cylinder coatings I doubt they would rebuild/ re-line the cylinders. This same process is used on the RAM /Jeep Hurricane engines. While the coatings are extremely hard, they are only the thickness of a human hair. They claim an extremely modest weight savings over iron sleeves. I’m guessing the Hurricanes have a potential to be oil burners too, if these thin coatings are damaged or low tension rings do a poor job of sealing.
My gen1 (2011) f150 Coyote has 296k miles and climbing everyday. It has full bolt ons, tuned cince around 90k miles. Ive replaced the ac compressor and heater core. No other issues at all whatsoever with almost 300k miles. And i walk gm's and rams easily
The 5.0 is the best v8 out and one of the best made. At least it hasn’t had lifter failure since 2007 like gm 😂
What about the 5.7 in the Toyota Tundra?
No it's not. The 6.2 is more reliable.
@ also not being made.
@@freedomisntfree_44 well if we are comparing "what's currently being made" than you're wrong about the 5 liter being one of the best engines. The current 5 liters burn oil and have cam phaser issues.
@ no they don’t 🤣 ford fixed that. He also mentioned that in this very video. You’re another “ well I heard…” kinda people 🤡
I had the 5.0 in my 2019 replaced this year back in june due to excessive oil consumption. I was going through 2 qts every 2k miles. The engine had 2 cylinders that were down half on their compression leakdown tests. Now the new engine doesn't use any oil. Also my fuel mpg has went up at least 2 mpg.
2017 F150 5.0 Coyote 172,000 miles.Does not use a drop of oil.Started using Mobile 1 full synthetic at 3rd oil change.
Run thicker oil in it. Haven’t had problem with mine running 5w50
That would be good to hear your views on extended warranty
Can't believe these new throw away cars and trucks!
Aww whatever, old carb trucks needed an engine rebuild by 100k mi..
@@ljmorris6496like hell they did!
Wondering about belt powered oil pumps on these. Ive got a gen 1 2012 coyote and its been good so far
I 'believe' yours is a chain... and also thankfully you don't have the newer 'cylinder deactivation' bullshit the newer 5.0 has.
I have a 2018 5.0 doesn’t burn any oil. I change oil every 3000 miles. This guy drives around with his check engine light on with only 3 quarts. Any wonder why he is in the shop?
my 2015 mustang GT with the 5.0 has never used oil or had these problems I use 5/40 syn , change oil every 5000 km.
Throw some restore and protect in it. Whats the idle time vs mileage? And was the air filter ever changed?
Your question is a good one i have a 2018 that I just had to put a new 10 speed in and never had oil issues and now i do so if anyone could answer that I'd appreciate but I wondered about there transmission do they reman a junk one or junk em
i think all engines have a core charge and if not they remanufacture them and sell them cuz when you go to buy new engines they give you the choice of new crate motor or remanufactured
Should've bought the 2.7l. Great motor.
depends because the newer gen 2.7 ALSO went to a wet-belt for the oil pump AND I 'believe' the 2.7 also has the cylinder deactivation bullshit like the newer 5.0
An upgraded valve cover on the passenger side with a baffle should be the fix. There is no baffle where the PCV valve is plugged in.
2018 F150 coyote uses about 3 quarts/1000 miles with 5w20, switched to 10w30 and helped some (with computer update), seen where some have switched to 10w50, not sure if I'll try that
The fact you sound okay with this is bothersome to me. A 2018 is not that old and it should not burn that much oil. All these comments have me rethinking a new F150
prices sky high and products are defective. what is going on in this country ? we cant even build reliable engines now
@bigd835 unions are what is wrong 50 bucks an hour for the guy that sweeping the floor 75 bucks an hour for the guys install 2 screws on a assembly line 60 bucks an hour for the guy that makes the coffee that has to be made up somewhere else and quality control is the only place to cut can't wait for the production to completely be out of this country I'll gladly pay the tariffs to teach entitled Americans a lesson on how much they are worth NOT AS much as they believe
Can’t say for sure on the gm and ram issues being 100% cylinder deactivation because when they changed to that setup they also changed to thinner oil so there maybe multiple items causing gm and ram truck problems 5 liter coyote issues started with the plasma spay liners
One thing to realize is that most 5.0 coyote engines have plasma sprayed cylinder liners instead of traditional steel sleeved ones like what GM uses for example in their aluminum blocks. A Plasma sprayed cylinder liner is the cheap way to do it, and they are extremely thin. This process is nothing new. Some German auto makers such as Porsche started using it in the 1960s to save money. Light service, low cost, air cooled, lawnmower engines also use this process. Consequently, these engines had relatively short service lives. If the engine has ever been overheated severely or is generally worked hard the liner will wear away relatively quickly and you will be into the soft aluminum block. When you get an engine that is using a quart of oil in a little over 300 miles it is highly likely that the cylinders are worn out of spec. With this condition, you will have an excessive amount of blow by past the piston rings. Some of the oil that does not get burned will end up in the intake through the PVC system. An update with a computer reflash will do nothing to help you with this condition.
I have a GMC Sierra with 250k and it drinks 1 qt every 3000 miles.2010 5.3 4 wheel drive. No other problems. Transfer case needs to be serviced but no other issues.
Pretty well documented issue on 5.0, apparently they improved in 2021.
Don't have to change oil anymore, just add and swap the filter once in a while
I own a 2015 Coyote 120k on the odometer. Outside of the heated seat going out and recently replacing my starter its been trouble free!
V8 the way to go! PCM update?? MMM interesting, and a bigger dipstick. Well keep on running them! its a solid engine the engineers just need to get their PC boys in on the game! So they are switching out the engine luckily they have an extended warranty to pay for it all! Don't forget to look up the extend warranty for granger i think it was, they are just like the factory warranty's your just not getting bend over at the dealerships! FYI Definitely right on the the days' are gone for the 250k to 300k miles on trucks!
Use 5w40 and problem solved don’t use the 5w20 they recommend and if your hard on your 5.0s the 5w40 dose the trick over the 5w20 or 5w30
I got rid of my 2019. It was a headache. Oil consumption was one of many issues with that engine. Injectors, cylinder head, intake manifold,02 sensor,spark plugs, and the ECM😅. P0301 code rough idle. Under 60k miles
My 2018 F-150 RCSB with 2.7L does not use any oil between 5000K changes and no issues at all except for one front wheel bearing humming at 75K miles.
The fix longer dip stick????
Had 18 150 5.0 it had bad oil burn piston slap and bad cam faz! 2 long blocks and 2 top ends in 5k of purchasing new !
I saw a 2019 mustang 5.0 that started to go through 3 quarts every 5000 miles starting at 35,000 miles. No leaks, no power loss, no smoke, no smell. Same situation as that f150. Only things i can guess is that oil is getting in the high pressure fuel pump driven off a passenger side camshaft. The pump rattles like a 2 stroke mixed with too much oil. Or the ring pack is wrong for the high pressure fuel system. Tsb removing vacuum will give lower brake pedal. Get the extended warranty! And Merry Christmas to you, your family, and all the viewers!
Got a 2011 F150 with 290,000 miles no oil consumption problem or engine problems.
Fordbossme did a video of this issue a few years ago
The older modular 4.6 took what 6 quarts? These coyotes take close to 9 whats with that? 2011-2016 no oil issues its the 18+ with the plasma bore bs when this started.
weird my 2019 Mustang GT was consuming oil and i just filled it up thought it was normal but i was racing it. I got rid of it couple months ago and got a 2021 Mach 1 and treated it the same way and no oil consumption nor cayote tick
Nikasil cylinders in 2018 . They did away with cast iron cylinder liners .
I love the looks of Fords but having to remove the cab for engine replacement is insane to me. Is this required for other American trucks? I know GM did this for camaro,firebird and corvette, which was dumb too.
The tech said in the video he didn’t HAVE to remove the cab to remove the engine. It just makes it easier.
My old '04 FX4 had that issue, but it was a Triton 5.4L 3V. My '14 FX4 5.0L doesn't have that consumption issue. I check my oil. That seems to be the issue on the 13th Gen refresh, and the 14th Gen. That wasn't as much of a problem in the '15-'17s.
13-14 was peak Coyote!
To answer your question, no. You get a new motor. Sometimes you get a short block, sometimes a long block. Sometimes the motor gets an update to fix the issue, sometimes they don't. Also, I wouldn't go by too much of what the tech in the video said. He doesn't have a lot of experience. You don't have to be a high end tech to swap these motors out. It looks impressive because he has the cab off, but its only held on by 6 bolts. To swap the engine, you pull up the workshop manual on your PC, and it gives you step by step instructions for every single nut and bolt for the entire job. Its a big job, but its not that difficult. You only need to be a mid level tech to do them.
A lot of todays cars seem to be eating oil, simply crazy!
Consuming oil is a failure !😆
When you get the government constantly increasing fuel mileage requirements then the manufacturers keep having to come up with more ways to meet them. First they do easy changes that are pretty much fail safe. Then as times go by it becomes harder and less reliable as the changes become more technical. Why can't we just leave well enough alone and punish the real polluters which are countries like China and India.
I have a 2021 f-150 with the 5.0. No oil consumption. Just the normal slight drop on the dipstick when it’s due for an oil change. I run amsoil signature series 5w-30. I have a few god friends that are ford techs. The oil consumption issue is the only consistent thing that comes up and it’s not that common here.
I think it's because people are using synthetic oil in most everything, not me & never will.
Most of the problems with the hemi & LS V8s stem from dirty oil. The manufacturers say you can go over 8k miles, but I personally change synthetic oil every 5k with no problems. Coyote engines, if run high rpm's, develop piston slap causing scratches in the cylinders. These engines can not be bored because there are no metal sleeves. I personally think the Fords are worse.
Biggest issue I've seen is they run a ton of valve spring pressure and the valves tulip. (Bend the valve into the seat and cause a misfire)
Wow, they don't make nothing like they use to anymore.
2017 gen 2 Coyote with 182k miles. Doesn’t use any oil between changes. So far, I have put no money in repairs on this vehicle (other than maintenance)
Glad I have the 6.6 gasser in my 2024 Chevy 2500 ZR2. I do check my oil every few weeks. I did add a catch can.
VERY KNOWN ISSUE... AND FORD HAS YET TO ACTUALLY FIND A FIX.