A simple form of regulation that would fix this is to make it illegal to have a new car loan longer than the bumper to bumper warranty. It would create competition to make more durable vehicles.
The average car can last well beyond the warranty. There are millions of cars on the road today that have outlasted their warranty and not all of them have had the best maintenance history. Statistically speaking, your car will likely drive far beyond the warranty if you keep up with the minimal maintenance.
People try to make planned obsolescence sound bad but it's really an inevitable reality. Do you know how much it would cost A company if they were still trying to support products they made over two decades ago. As an example, Apple could never do lifetime support of their laptops because at some point the cost of supporting said product would far outweigh the actual product. Not to mention the strain on internal resources and advancements in technology.
Thanks for asking the tech the right questions. My 2021 Tundra with the bullet-proof 5.7 has lived up to its reputation, but I still bought an extended Toyota factory warranty as an extra layer of protection. If I ever had to part with it, I'd go back to the Ford F150 with the Coyote engine all day long. I've personally seen and heard nothing but bad things about GMs truck v8s, not to mention their late model fuel pump module failures on the newer trucks. The Hurricanes in the Ram trucks are already having issues, and they're too new on the market to risk my hard earned money on.
My 18 has 140,000 on the 5.0 it eats a quart every 1000 but she’s always got fresh oil and redlines daily with a smile. My 04 super duty 5.4 2valve ate a quart every 1000 I bought it with 150,000 and sold it at 230,000 purring like a kitten. Consuming oil I don’t see as an issue as long as you know and keep it topped off.
In our construction company we have a 2014 5.0 It has 100k on it and has worked everyday of its service. Tows a 12ft utility trailer loaded with tools, minimum 15 sheets plywood, supplies, ladders, aluminun brake, crew of at least 4. This truck has never been down either then a swollen fuse which is a known issue but never missed a day. It has been maintained service wise. Plus you cant tell its running sometimes because it is so smooth.
100% agree. The older Gen 5.0L Coyote motors were solid. I also had a 2014 F-150 5L with just over 100K miles when it met with an unfortunate traffic incident. Kept up with regular maintenance (oil/fluids/brakes/plugs/coolant) never had any issues with the engine or drivetrain. Did not burn oil! I was planning on driving it until the body rotted away. Hated to lose that vehicle.
I have a 14 5.0, three '15 Ram 5.7s in our courier fleet. They've been flawless. It seems like the Ford and Ram were building their best during this time frame.
'14 5.0 4x, 165k. Got the lash adjuster and follower tick at 125k, switched to 5w30. It quieted down and finally at the 165k oil change it had burned one whole quart by the time the 10k interval rolled. Will be replacing some cam followers this spring, thinking Melling brand.
Hey My friend has 2017 5.0 F150. Going through several quarts every 3000 miles or less. It also had knocking noises. Ford did top end warranty repair. Later it started knocking again consuming oil. Ford replaced engine new. They then replaced 10 speed trans when they couldn’t get it to run and drive. What a story. Nice tutorial These fuel management systems in all manufacturers make the issues and problems
He would still have the 5.0! I'm with you. Have a 2018 with almost 90k miles. It consumes oil but within the revised specs. So I'm not worried. I change the oil every 5k miles. Started using 5w30 recently
In 2018, Ford started using plasma transfer wire arc cylinder walls in the 5.0 along with lower tension piston rings. That combination has led to high oil consumption on a lot of those engines. I done a lot of research on the F-150's before buying one. I really wanted a 2018 or newer but they have this problem and some of the 10 speeds have had issues as well. They also came out in 2018 with direct injection and cylinder deactivation and I'm not a fan of either although Ford seems to have the best systems on those. It seems to be pretty unanimous that the 2015-2017 5.0's are the most reliable modern F-150's. I ended up with a 2015 5.0 6 speed and love it.
@@hellkitty1014 even if I were in the market for a brand new truck, I would be really hesitant to buy one for fear of what kind of problems it would have 5 or 10 years down the road. I'd rather put money in the form of brakes, tires, and general upkeep into a known good used truck than the unknown of a new truck.
@@therealRustyShackleford yep. I would say all 4 truck brands have major varying issues. In the half-ton market, they all seem to have some type of major flaw, even Toyota. In the HD class, Ford continues to have issues with the CP4 shattering fuel systems, Ram is having hydraulic lifters issues(should've never moved away from flat tappet) and in isolated cases, grid heater issues that can destroy the entire engine, and GM is having component issues on the Duramax as well. It's funny how many Ford 7.3s/Ram 5.9s are still on the road from 25 years ago with original components.
Man this is old news.....the 5.0 oil consumption issue Bern known for a while.The tech said he'd still prefer a 5.0 over Ecoboost......just because it's a v 8 he says
Ever since I’ve heard of this oil consumption issues with the 18-20 Ford f150 5.0’s I have been changing my oil every 3,000 miles since I’ve owned the truck.
It’s not that GM discontinued the fuel management, it’s that they couldn’t install them on 2022 because of the world wide shortage of semiconductors. Like Ford, GM had thousands of new trucks piling up and wind up selling those trucks without fuel management-which GM buyers were happy without it. Lifters were still prone to failure though.
That is true. They were offering $50 credits on 21-22 5.3/6.2s because they couldn't install during that time due to shortage. And you're right, the lifters are still failing.
This is a very common problem from 2018 to 2020. The 2017 and older are solid engines. The Eco boost isn’t perfect, but I’d rather put a set of cam phasers in something then put an engine in it and now in a year has catalytic converters will be junk from all the oil that passed through them and that will be $2500 out of pocket Because he’s out of emissions warranty. They burn oil because of the plasmalined cylinders. The exhaust manifold issues on the early eco-boost are typical for any gas engine. They’re way better than anything on a Chrysler hemi or they need exhaust manifolds and gaskets every 30,000 miles. The difference is when an Eco boost needs a manifold that loses boost and you hear a high-pitched squeal because of the back pressure between the manifold and turbo so you pretty much have to fix an eco-boost where you can drive around for two years with an NAV8 with an exhaust leak sounding like crap and getting 3 miles per gallon less . The timing chain stretch issues are completely maintenance related because there’s tons of those engines with three and 400,000 miles on it never had the timing chain issues. I love the coyote. It sounds amazing. Hate to say if you want the most problem for engine you’re gonna have the 3.5 ecoboost . It’s also the only engine in Fords lineup for the F150 that still has a crankshaft driven oil pump. The 18+ 2.7 and 21+ 5.0 both have rubber cog type oil pump belts inside the engine. I’m sorry there’s no reason for that. Apparently you need to use a certain type of oil in those engines so it doesn’t degrade the belt as well.
Don’t worry about the bit of oil it used , as long as it has plenty of power and torque to pull my 6,000 pound camper. I used 5/30 synthetic oil during the hot summer months and changed out the oil just before late fall . Don’t be afraid to check the oil level every month and top it up . Oil is still cheaper than a new engine
My 2013 still running strong with close to 200,000 miles, only changed the water pump and sparkplugs at 100,000. Everything else is original even the serpentine belts. I here 2015-2017 5.0 is best v8 engine but my older 13 has been good too.
A co-worker has coyote in his F-150 (the first year it was available). He 357000miles on it. Replace an alternator on it and recently the battery. That's it. Other than regular maintenance items, his truck is running strong.
EVERYONE is having problems. EVERYONE. There's not a single OEM that I can blindly say "GO FOR IT ! That's a reliable vehicle !" The 5.0L was the last one to get DOD but still got it at the end and that only means future problems like every other HEMI, LS, LT, et al. Then you have transmissions . . . 🙄🤦♂. It's pretty much a gamble by now. Place your bets, Ladies and Gents !
15- 17 are the best coyotes. The later ones are still great but some 18 - 20 trucks had cylinders that were not round. 18 was the first year for the plasma sprayed bores. Nissan 5.6 and coyote are the most reliable 1/2 ton engines in 24 but of course you can’t get a Titan going forward.
Gen II Coyote had all types of issues and they're really starting to show up big time now since they're beginning to age. The Gen 1 Coyote is the way to go, 2013-2016 being the sweet spot. That's why you see so many still on the road. The current 21-25 Coyote will probably be even worse because they added cylinder deactivation. I know everyone lands GM and Ford for keeping V8s around, but they're not the same trusty, bulletproof Coyotes and LS' from back in the day.
Been watching your F150 videos. I just picked up '23 Lariat Powerboost recently. Although I still had some of the factory warranty left I purchased an extended warranty for piece of mind. I hope I never need it.
I have a GMC Sierra with 250k and it drinks 1 qt every 3000 miles.2010 5.3 4 wheel drive. No other problems. Transfer case needs to be serviced but no other issues.
Most of the problems with the hemi & LS V8s stem from dirty oil. The manufacturers say you can go over 8k miles, but I personally change synthetic oil every 5k with no problems. Coyote engines, if run high rpm's, develop piston slap causing scratches in the cylinders. These engines can not be bored because there are no metal sleeves. I personally think the Fords are worse.
The 5.0 coyote motor is virtually bulletproof. Very few issues. With thousands upon thousands of these trucks on the road, there is bound to some issues.
Can’t say for sure on the gm and ram issues being 100% cylinder deactivation because when they changed to that setup they also changed to thinner oil so there maybe multiple items causing gm and ram truck problems 5 liter coyote issues started with the plasma spay liners
If the engines have plasma arc cylinder coatings I doubt they would rebuild/ re-line the cylinders. This same process is used on the RAM /Jeep Hurricane engines. While the coatings are extremely hard, they are only the thickness of a human hair. They claim an extremely modest weight savings over iron sleeves. I’m guessing the Hurricanes have a potential to be oil burners too, if these thin coatings are damaged or low tension rings do a poor job of sealing.
I have a 2018 5.0 doesn’t burn any oil. I change oil every 3000 miles. This guy drives around with his check engine light on with only 3 quarts. Any wonder why he is in the shop?
I love the looks of Fords but having to remove the cab for engine replacement is insane to me. Is this required for other American trucks? I know GM did this for camaro,firebird and corvette, which was dumb too.
My old '04 FX4 had that issue, but it was a Triton 5.4L 3V. My '14 FX4 5.0L doesn't have that consumption issue. I check my oil. That seems to be the issue on the 13th Gen refresh, and the 14th Gen. That wasn't as much of a problem in the '15-'17s.
I have a 2021 f-150 with the 5.0. No oil consumption. Just the normal slight drop on the dipstick when it’s due for an oil change. I run amsoil signature series 5w-30. I have a few god friends that are ford techs. The oil consumption issue is the only consistent thing that comes up and it’s not that common here.
2018 F150 coyote uses about 3 quarts/1000 miles with 5w20, switched to 10w30 and helped some (with computer update), seen where some have switched to 10w50, not sure if I'll try that
I had the 5.0 in my 2019 replaced this year back in june due to excessive oil consumption. I was going through 2 qts every 2k miles. The engine had 2 cylinders that were down half on their compression leakdown tests. Now the new engine doesn't use any oil. Also my fuel mpg has went up at least 2 mpg.
This ain't new. Pass and current owners know this. I had 88 Bronco with 302 cu in that lost a quart of oil every 3,800 miles from day I bought it new. Went round and round with dealer with no resolution, but I liked it so much I just put up with it. Was told numerous times that it's a high compression motor and oil will blow buy at high rpms. Guess vehicle manufacturers and oil companies in each other pockets.
Never own a Ford again. They acknowledged issues with my f 150. Assured me they would repair it under a recall. Then, drug me out for almost a year. Shaddy mofos.
I saw a 2019 mustang 5.0 that started to go through 3 quarts every 5000 miles starting at 35,000 miles. No leaks, no power loss, no smoke, no smell. Same situation as that f150. Only things i can guess is that oil is getting in the high pressure fuel pump driven off a passenger side camshaft. The pump rattles like a 2 stroke mixed with too much oil. Or the ring pack is wrong for the high pressure fuel system. Tsb removing vacuum will give lower brake pedal. Get the extended warranty! And Merry Christmas to you, your family, and all the viewers!
Ford used a “special coating” in the cylinder walls that reduced friction. They also used low tension piston rings. All this was to get better fuel efficiency. But the coatings wore off extremely fast, causing severe blow-by.
Probably. Originally the 2018-2020 f150 5.0 required 5w20. While the generations behind and after it required 5w30. I have a 2018 ford f150 5.0. All these years I have been getting my service at the dealership and they always put in 5w20 until recently. My last service visit at the dealership a couple of weeks ago, they switched it to 5w30. I can tell a difference in the performance and engine idle; everything is smoother. It is not placebo because I always have a water bottle with me when driving. When I was running with 5w20 at a stop light, you can see the water shake in the bottle due to the engine idling but when switched to 5w30 the water in the bottle is pretty still.
The 2.7 ecoboost is way more reliable than the 3.5 ecoboost and the 5.0 coyote. The older 2.7s do have leaky plastic oil pans with no gasket and just some silcone. The updated oil pan does have an embedded gasket and only cost me $400 total installed. Also the 2.7 is faster than the 5.0...lol😅
I've not heard of any major issues with the 2.7, even back to 2015, except the craziness with the oil pan(bonding plastic to metal is never good, especially without a gasket. Ford did the same thing with the 6.7 Super Duty around this time period).
I might be wrong but I think the water pumps(not enough flow of coolant), thermostats need to be changed more often(checked and tested every oil change), hoses need to be changed to higher grade materials like braided hoses. These vehicles are putting more horsepower out and more heat than back in the days. the steel and aluminum parts recipes have changed to cut production cost. The engine compartments have gotten smaller(not enough room to dissipate heat) and unnecessary regulations of emissions are choking motors
Mines pushing 200,000 miles only thing ever failed on the engine is the water pump i changed at the parts store for just over 100 dollars. Engine transmission runs great. Full synthetic 7,000 mile oil changes.
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Planned obsolescence needs to be illegal.
A simple form of regulation that would fix this is to make it illegal to have a new car loan longer than the bumper to bumper warranty. It would create competition to make more durable vehicles.
The average car can last well beyond the warranty. There are millions of cars on the road today that have outlasted their warranty and not all of them have had the best maintenance history. Statistically speaking, your car will likely drive far beyond the warranty if you keep up with the minimal maintenance.
People try to make planned obsolescence sound bad but it's really an inevitable reality. Do you know how much it would cost A company if they were still trying to support products they made over two decades ago. As an example, Apple could never do lifetime support of their laptops because at some point the cost of supporting said product would far outweigh the actual product. Not to mention the strain on internal resources and advancements in technology.
We need a half way broke motor head as president ❤❤@@malcolmn.5222
Damn rights it should be illegal
Thanks for asking the tech the right questions. My 2021 Tundra with the bullet-proof 5.7 has lived up to its reputation, but I still bought an extended Toyota factory warranty as an extra layer of protection. If I ever had to part with it, I'd go back to the Ford F150 with the Coyote engine all day long. I've personally seen and heard nothing but bad things about GMs truck v8s, not to mention their late model fuel pump module failures on the newer trucks. The Hurricanes in the Ram trucks are already having issues, and they're too new on the market to risk my hard earned money on.
My 18 has 140,000 on the 5.0 it eats a quart every 1000 but she’s always got fresh oil and redlines daily with a smile. My 04 super duty 5.4 2valve ate a quart every 1000 I bought it with 150,000 and sold it at 230,000 purring like a kitten. Consuming oil I don’t see as an issue as long as you know and keep it topped off.
In our construction company we have a 2014 5.0 It has 100k on it and has worked everyday of its service. Tows a 12ft utility trailer loaded with tools, minimum 15 sheets plywood, supplies, ladders, aluminun brake, crew of at least 4. This truck has never been down either then a swollen fuse which is a known issue but never missed a day. It has been maintained service wise. Plus you cant tell its running sometimes because it is so smooth.
100% agree. The older Gen 5.0L Coyote motors were solid. I also had a 2014 F-150 5L with just over 100K miles when it met with an unfortunate traffic incident. Kept up with regular maintenance (oil/fluids/brakes/plugs/coolant) never had any issues with the engine or drivetrain. Did not burn oil! I was planning on driving it until the body rotted away. Hated to lose that vehicle.
I have a 14 5.0, three '15 Ram 5.7s in our courier fleet. They've been flawless. It seems like the Ford and Ram were building their best during this time frame.
'14 5.0 4x, 165k. Got the lash adjuster and follower tick at 125k, switched to 5w30. It quieted down and finally at the 165k oil change it had burned one whole quart by the time the 10k interval rolled. Will be replacing some cam followers this spring, thinking Melling brand.
Hey My friend has 2017 5.0 F150. Going through several quarts every 3000 miles or less. It also had knocking noises. Ford did top end warranty repair. Later it started knocking again consuming oil.
Ford replaced engine new. They then replaced 10 speed trans when they couldn’t get it to run and drive. What a story. Nice tutorial
These fuel management systems in all manufacturers make the issues and problems
2018 was the first year of the ten speed. 2017 trucks did not have it, they have the six speed. I have a 2017 5.0 with the six speed.
Yes my mistake it was a 10 speed so it’s a 2018
@@josephpuchel6497 I was not sure if it was a mistake or not lol. Cheers mate
He would still have the 5.0! I'm with you. Have a 2018 with almost 90k miles. It consumes oil but within the revised specs. So I'm not worried. I change the oil every 5k miles. Started using 5w30 recently
In 2018, Ford started using plasma transfer wire arc cylinder walls in the 5.0 along with lower tension piston rings. That combination has led to high oil consumption on a lot of those engines. I done a lot of research on the F-150's before buying one. I really wanted a 2018 or newer but they have this problem and some of the 10 speeds have had issues as well. They also came out in 2018 with direct injection and cylinder deactivation and I'm not a fan of either although Ford seems to have the best systems on those. It seems to be pretty unanimous that the 2015-2017 5.0's are the most reliable modern F-150's. I ended up with a 2015 5.0 6 speed and love it.
Ford had to buy back a ton of 18-19 Mustang 5.0s because of this very issue.
@@hellkitty1014 even if I were in the market for a brand new truck, I would be really hesitant to buy one for fear of what kind of problems it would have 5 or 10 years down the road. I'd rather put money in the form of brakes, tires, and general upkeep into a known good used truck than the unknown of a new truck.
I have a 22 I got 23 it hasn’t burned a drop even when towing over max sometimes gen 4 is pretty solid, they changed oil weight and added a ring
@@therealRustyShackleford yep. I would say all 4 truck brands have major varying issues. In the half-ton market, they all seem to have some type of major flaw, even Toyota. In the HD class, Ford continues to have issues with the CP4 shattering fuel systems, Ram is having hydraulic lifters issues(should've never moved away from flat tappet) and in isolated cases, grid heater issues that can destroy the entire engine, and GM is having component issues on the Duramax as well. It's funny how many Ford 7.3s/Ram 5.9s are still on the road from 25 years ago with original components.
@@banana_phone4228 I hope they prove to be good trucks. I might want a newer one someday.
Can't believe these new throw away cars and trucks!
Aww whatever, old carb trucks needed an engine rebuild by 100k mi..
Man this is old news.....the 5.0 oil consumption issue Bern known for a while.The tech said he'd still prefer a 5.0 over Ecoboost......just because it's a v 8 he says
Ever since I’ve heard of this oil consumption issues with the 18-20 Ford f150 5.0’s I have been changing my oil every 3,000 miles since I’ve owned the truck.
Good reporting ty. Sure is a difference in personalities between Ford tech and the big guy at Ram....of course appreciate all top notch mechanics!!
It’s not that GM discontinued the fuel management, it’s that they couldn’t install them on 2022 because of the world wide shortage of semiconductors. Like Ford, GM had thousands of new trucks piling up and wind up selling those trucks without fuel management-which GM buyers were happy without it. Lifters were still prone to failure though.
That is true. They were offering $50 credits on 21-22 5.3/6.2s because they couldn't install during that time due to shortage. And you're right, the lifters are still failing.
The 5.0 is the best v8 out and one of the best made. At least it hasn’t had lifter failure since 2007 like gm 😂
What about the 5.7 in the Toyota Tundra?
No it's not. The 6.2 is more reliable.
3:50, even with the issues the coyote is better than the alternative
Merry Christmas! I wish you and your family the best of luck. God bless.
When I worked at a Ford dealership, this is very very rare for a coyote v8 have any problems.
This is a very common problem from 2018 to 2020. The 2017 and older are solid engines. The Eco boost isn’t perfect, but I’d rather put a set of cam phasers in something then put an engine in it and now in a year has catalytic converters will be junk from all the oil that passed through them and that will be $2500 out of pocket Because he’s out of emissions warranty. They burn oil because of the plasmalined cylinders. The exhaust manifold issues on the early eco-boost are typical for any gas engine. They’re way better than anything on a Chrysler hemi or they need exhaust manifolds and gaskets every 30,000 miles. The difference is when an Eco boost needs a manifold that loses boost and you hear a high-pitched squeal because of the back pressure between the manifold and turbo so you pretty much have to fix an eco-boost where you can drive around for two years with an NAV8 with an exhaust leak sounding like crap and getting 3 miles per gallon less . The timing chain stretch issues are completely maintenance related because there’s tons of those engines with three and 400,000 miles on it never had the timing chain issues. I love the coyote. It sounds amazing. Hate to say if you want the most problem for engine you’re gonna have the 3.5 ecoboost . It’s also the only engine in Fords lineup for the F150 that still has a crankshaft driven oil pump. The 18+ 2.7 and 21+ 5.0 both have rubber cog type oil pump belts inside the engine. I’m sorry there’s no reason for that. Apparently you need to use a certain type of oil in those engines so it doesn’t degrade the belt as well.
@@JohnDiMartinois the oil motorcraft OEM oil because there is nothing special about it ?
Not rare on 18-20 coyotes
Don’t worry about the bit of oil it used , as long as it has plenty of power and torque to pull my 6,000 pound camper. I used 5/30 synthetic oil during the hot summer months and changed out the oil just before late fall . Don’t be afraid to check the oil level every month and top it up . Oil is still cheaper than a new engine
My 2013 still running strong with close to 200,000 miles, only changed the water pump and sparkplugs at 100,000. Everything else is original even the serpentine belts. I here 2015-2017 5.0 is best v8 engine but my older 13 has been good too.
13-15 are the best Coyotes plus Ford's 6R80 trans was bulletproof during these years.
A co-worker has coyote in his F-150 (the first year it was available). He 357000miles on it. Replace an alternator on it and recently the battery. That's it. Other than regular maintenance items, his truck is running strong.
EVERYONE is having problems. EVERYONE.
There's not a single OEM that I can blindly say "GO FOR IT ! That's a reliable vehicle !"
The 5.0L was the last one to get DOD but still got it at the end and that only means future problems like every other HEMI, LS, LT, et al.
Then you have transmissions . . . 🙄🤦♂.
It's pretty much a gamble by now. Place your bets, Ladies and Gents !
A lot of todays cars seem to be eating oil, simply crazy!
The Ford TSB for oil consumption: if oil level low, install a longer dip stick 😂😂😂
Wouldn’t it be a shorter dipstick
Great Review and Video!
180,000 miles here in coyote, never cumsomed anything but chevys
The fix longer dip stick????
15- 17 are the best coyotes. The later ones are still great but some 18 - 20 trucks had cylinders that were not round. 18 was the first year for the plasma sprayed bores.
Nissan 5.6 and coyote are the most reliable 1/2 ton engines in 24 but of course you can’t get a Titan going forward.
Jb great video reviews you do thank you merry Christmas to you and your family
Gen II Coyote had all types of issues and they're really starting to show up big time now since they're beginning to age. The Gen 1 Coyote is the way to go, 2013-2016 being the sweet spot. That's why you see so many still on the road.
The current 21-25 Coyote will probably be even worse because they added cylinder deactivation. I know everyone lands GM and Ford for keeping V8s around, but they're not the same trusty, bulletproof Coyotes and LS' from back in the day.
love my 2013 5.0
My gen 1 5.0 was good till it broke a piston ring.warranty refused to fix it.
My 2011 coyote was great besides the loud engine knock sound it made
Been watching your F150 videos. I just picked up '23 Lariat Powerboost recently. Although I still had some of the factory warranty left I purchased an extended warranty for piece of mind. I hope I never need it.
Fordbossme did a video of this issue a few years ago
I have a GMC Sierra with 250k and it drinks 1 qt every 3000 miles.2010 5.3 4 wheel drive. No other problems. Transfer case needs to be serviced but no other issues.
Company work truck, 2019 5.0 with 70,000 miles needed new cam phasers and chains. Fleet maintained
Most of the problems with the hemi & LS V8s stem from dirty oil. The manufacturers say you can go over 8k miles, but I personally change synthetic oil every 5k with no problems. Coyote engines, if run high rpm's, develop piston slap causing scratches in the cylinders. These engines can not be bored because there are no metal sleeves. I personally think the Fords are worse.
VERY KNOWN ISSUE... AND FORD HAS YET TO ACTUALLY FIND A FIX.
The 5.0 coyote motor is virtually bulletproof. Very few issues. With thousands upon thousands of these trucks on the road, there is bound to some issues.
Can’t say for sure on the gm and ram issues being 100% cylinder deactivation because when they changed to that setup they also changed to thinner oil so there maybe multiple items causing gm and ram truck problems 5 liter coyote issues started with the plasma spay liners
If the engines have plasma arc cylinder coatings I doubt they would rebuild/ re-line the cylinders. This same process is used on the RAM /Jeep Hurricane engines. While the coatings are extremely hard, they are only the thickness of a human hair. They claim an extremely modest weight savings over iron sleeves. I’m guessing the Hurricanes have a potential to be oil burners too, if these thin coatings are damaged or low tension rings do a poor job of sealing.
I have a 2018 5.0 doesn’t burn any oil. I change oil every 3000 miles. This guy drives around with his check engine light on with only 3 quarts. Any wonder why he is in the shop?
I have a 2011 f150 5.0 stock everything but the supercharger and ice box ive put 125k on this truck since the build without any issues
If you have a good running vehicle, keep it!!! The brand new one's are like playing Russian roulette. Good "F"ing luck with it.
I love the looks of Fords but having to remove the cab for engine replacement is insane to me. Is this required for other American trucks? I know GM did this for camaro,firebird and corvette, which was dumb too.
Curious if you were to ask him about the 2.7… seems like the internet has had a bit better luck with it over the 5.0 and 3.5
my 2015 mustang GT with the 5.0 has never used oil or had these problems I use 5/40 syn , change oil every 5000 km.
i have a 2014 ford E250 4.6 2vlv V8 with 127k miles and she doesn't burn oil. she purrs like a kitten.
My old '04 FX4 had that issue, but it was a Triton 5.4L 3V. My '14 FX4 5.0L doesn't have that consumption issue. I check my oil. That seems to be the issue on the 13th Gen refresh, and the 14th Gen. That wasn't as much of a problem in the '15-'17s.
13-14 was peak Coyote!
I have a 2021 f-150 with the 5.0. No oil consumption. Just the normal slight drop on the dipstick when it’s due for an oil change. I run amsoil signature series 5w-30. I have a few god friends that are ford techs. The oil consumption issue is the only consistent thing that comes up and it’s not that common here.
2018 F150 coyote uses about 3 quarts/1000 miles with 5w20, switched to 10w30 and helped some (with computer update), seen where some have switched to 10w50, not sure if I'll try that
I had the 5.0 in my 2019 replaced this year back in june due to excessive oil consumption. I was going through 2 qts every 2k miles. The engine had 2 cylinders that were down half on their compression leakdown tests. Now the new engine doesn't use any oil. Also my fuel mpg has went up at least 2 mpg.
Don't have to change oil anymore, just add and swap the filter once in a while
My 77 Bronco leaks/burns a 1qt of oil every 1000 miles too.
Nice hat!!! 🧢
Im selling my 2011 and going back to 90s era trucks,they seem to last longer mechanically.
With the truck having around 100K, is the engine replacement under 100% warranty?
Good God, what now? 🤔 At these prices and level of industrial/manufacturing experience, this shouldn’t be happening. 😑
Wow, they don't make nothing like they use to anymore.
This ain't new. Pass and current owners know this. I had 88 Bronco with 302 cu in that lost a quart of oil every 3,800 miles from day I bought it new. Went round and round with dealer with no resolution, but I liked it so much I just put up with it. Was told numerous times that it's a high compression motor and oil will blow buy at high rpms. Guess vehicle manufacturers and oil companies in each other pockets.
Chevy too my 24 2500hd gas is leaking transmission fluid they said it was over filled at the factory we shall see less than 10k miles🤯🤯
I will take longevity over sound any day… 2.7 ftw
Never own a Ford again. They acknowledged issues with my f 150. Assured me they would repair it under a recall. Then, drug me out for almost a year. Shaddy mofos.
This is old news!
You don't hear anything bad about the 3.3 V6
I saw a 2019 mustang 5.0 that started to go through 3 quarts every 5000 miles starting at 35,000 miles. No leaks, no power loss, no smoke, no smell. Same situation as that f150. Only things i can guess is that oil is getting in the high pressure fuel pump driven off a passenger side camshaft. The pump rattles like a 2 stroke mixed with too much oil. Or the ring pack is wrong for the high pressure fuel system. Tsb removing vacuum will give lower brake pedal. Get the extended warranty! And Merry Christmas to you, your family, and all the viewers!
This has been a problem for years
If you have FORD ESP they never find something wrong. No warranty everything is broken.
So what was he goin to fix?
Is the wrong oil being used?/
Yes
Ford used a “special coating” in the cylinder walls that reduced friction. They also used low tension piston rings.
All this was to get better fuel efficiency.
But the coatings wore off extremely fast, causing severe blow-by.
Probably. Originally the 2018-2020 f150 5.0 required 5w20. While the generations behind and after it required 5w30. I have a 2018 ford f150 5.0. All these years I have been getting my service at the dealership and they always put in 5w20 until recently. My last service visit at the dealership a couple of weeks ago, they switched it to 5w30. I can tell a difference in the performance and engine idle; everything is smoother. It is not placebo because I always have a water bottle with me when driving. When I was running with 5w20 at a stop light, you can see the water shake in the bottle due to the engine idling but when switched to 5w30 the water in the bottle is pretty still.
The 2.7 ecoboost is way more reliable than the 3.5 ecoboost and the 5.0 coyote. The older 2.7s do have leaky plastic oil pans with no gasket and just some silcone. The updated oil pan does have an embedded gasket and only cost me $400 total installed. Also the 2.7 is faster than the 5.0...lol😅
Any major issues with your 2.7?
I've not heard of any major issues with the 2.7, even back to 2015, except the craziness with the oil pan(bonding plastic to metal is never good, especially without a gasket. Ford did the same thing with the 6.7 Super Duty around this time period).
The 2.7 has an oil pump drive belt...💩
@@PeeterPuncher while it is dog water I’ve not heard of deteriorating and grenading the engine have you ?
@@PeeterPuncherthat has no issues… show me proof they are failing lol but I can show proof the 5.slow burns oil on the regular lol
I might be wrong but I think the water pumps(not enough flow of coolant), thermostats need to be changed more often(checked and tested every oil change), hoses need to be changed to higher grade materials like braided hoses. These vehicles are putting more horsepower out and more heat than back in the days. the steel and aluminum parts recipes have changed to cut production cost. The engine compartments have gotten smaller(not enough room to dissipate heat) and unnecessary regulations of emissions are choking motors
Yeah we should go back to smog choking us in every major city and leaded fuel
Mines pushing 200,000 miles only thing ever failed on the engine is the water pump i changed at the parts store for just over 100 dollars. Engine transmission runs great. Full synthetic 7,000 mile oil changes.
@ maybe your was made on a Wednesday 😂
@@loveracing1988 there are regulations that are mandatorily needed
2012-13 boss Roadrunner engine best engine Ford ever made.