NBAbram he's just not in the same universe as Jordan. He's top 5, I'll give him that but he's not even the "second greatest" of all-time (let alone the "greatest" lmao) like some casuals nowadays are saying. He's still got a lot to prove to me for me to acknowledge him as the goat. It's a pretty tall mountain to climb and I don't think he'll ever reach that summit. It's not hating, it's just being objective.
NBAbram He wasn't the first and he won't be the last. Remember Kobe went through the same thing. Despite what the media does, we can all appreciate having a player worth comparing to the GOAT MJ. I think once Lebron's career comes to an end people will begin to appreciate the greatness we all got to witness just as we all celebrate Kobe's career now that it is over with. The GOAT discussion is and will always be up a never ending debate because each athlete excels in different areas. Everybody just chill and just enjoy the sport and remember......MJ will always be the GREATEST OF ALL TIME MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
LeBron simply points a finger to the sky after passing Jordan for most playoffs points. Skip: omg LeBron was trying to tell the world that he's the new GOAT ! That's the sports media for you lmao
T-Minus Infinity LeBron doesn't even seem to really care he's just proud of a hard achievement that most people never think they can do and to b number 1 in playoff scoring, who wouldn't be happy, he's not trying to brag at all
Skip is the biggest Lebron hater of all time. I've never in my life seen someone with Lebron's skill set and work ethic (not to mention his flawless record of not getting in any trouble off the court) get hated on so much. Technically he embodies everything you could ask for from a professional athlete.
Exactly... Lebron is literally everything we want in our athletes, but for some reason half the fans hate him. MJ punched his teammates, he cheated on his wife, he had a gambling scandal... Lebron has been the opposite. No trouble with the law or anything like that.
Dapper Don Do u copy and paste a lot or what? Jordan is by far the goat and it's not even close. Jordan won dpoy, 10x scoring champion and 6-0 in the finals with 6 finals mvps and 6 Rings. Plus Jordan had like 5 season mvps. GTFOH!!
C'mon - this is farcical. I'm not a big LeBron fan - but you have to respect the guy. His athleticism, work ethic and - most importantly - the way he represents the league is unparalleled. Plus - there was no social media during the Jordan era - the scrutiny that LeBron is under is unparalleled. You can argue GOAT - but the disrespect is ridiculous.
Joe Thomas now we got someone around that has respect for some greatness thank you I get tired of all these haters, hating on such players and they aren't even lebron
Joe the problem with so many on here (not saying you) is that if you don't recognize 'ol Bron Bron as greater than Mike and the GOAT, then you have no respect for him, his talents, or his accomplishments. Nothing could be further from the truth
@TEAM XBOX How does that sound ignorant? It's an opinion backed by facts and what ive witnessed from both. Not agreeing with does not make me ignorant bud.
"LeBron James is the all time worst 3 point shooter in the NBA history" moments later after hearing LeBron passed Jordan with fewer shot attempts. "LeBron makes bunch of 3 pointers, that's why". Yeah Skip...sure, we get you!
That's a ridiculous argument there. You forgot to mention he also is on the 13th spot of the most free throws made. So what, does that make him one of the best FT shooters? The man goes to the line so frequently, that's why he makes and misses many Free Throws. LeBron is an overall 74% FT shooter, which is not very good; but not bad either. You can't possibly call a man with 74% one of the worst FT shooters in the history.
Dapper Don so you're using Lebron's physical attributes as a knock against him cause he can create easier shots?! 😂 I swear you haters will say anything to discredit Lebron lol
Creux He is not Trolling. When Lebron gets 7 Titles, 7 Finals MVPs and 11 Scoring Titles, he will be GOAT. He just doesn't have better Results than MJ right now MJ GOAT
Kakaroto K MJ is retired. After retiring twice before and having a total of 4 years of rest to only come back and not even make the playoffs several years in a row with Richard Hamilton as a teammate in his prime. That's the Goat in your book? Yet Scottie still made the playoffs at the same time each year.
polaris c that's cause as great as LeBron is he's overrated when compared to Jordan. LeBron may end up 2nd to Jordan but LeBron fans won't listen to that they want him number 1 and he simply is not but that doesn't mean he isn't great.
I think it's bette that one guy defends Lebron and one guy unjustly criticizes Lebron. They bring out stats and context to back up everything. Ps. skip hates Lebron.
Lebron: more assists more rebounds higher FG%, higher TS% (more efficient scorer) what again makes it so blasphemous to call Lebrons name next to Jordan?
KingOfTheJungle might have choked earlier... You know, lebron had one very poor playoff series against the mavs. Other than that, he pretty much always delivered. Jordan did some things Lebron never did, but Lebron also did some things Jordan was never able to do. Individually, they are pretty close. Its at least debatable who is better.
MCFoultier there's a difference between losing, and choking/quitting. Jordan has lost multiple 7 game series in his career but he never choked or quit on his team. In 2010 LeBron quit on his team in 3 separate games against Boston in the playoffs. LeBron has the talent but doesn't have Jordan's heart. Kobe has the heart and a lot of talent to go with it, but not as much talent as Jordan or LeBron. Point is MJ is the only guy you can look at and say he has the total package.
KingOfTheJungle I dont know the guy, and neither do you. Hard to imagine the most successful basketball player of the last ten years got to the point where he is today by not having the heart or not trying everything all the time in big moments if you think about it.
I used to get in arguments like this, but then I remembered it's 100% objective, so we can all just chill and appreciate how great BOTH of these players are...
Shannon dropped knowledge on Skip... Then Skip says the 3 point line is more valued but will call LeBron a terrible 3 point shooter... LOL.. This is funny... And always leaving out facts...
not only that but if mj attempted 100 more shots without series going to 7 games thats what we call a shot chucker. no wonder MJ said westbrook reminded him of himself.
The game is about winning. If ur stats are the best n there are fewer Ws then u cant be the GOAT. Gr8 stats is like having the best handles but unable to score.
Everybody who knows anything about basketball knows Lebron is a pass first player and not a natural scorer which makes what hes achieved even more special.
513OVA EVERYTHING oh ok I sound stupid? They equal out since Jordan took more two point shots but bron took less overall shots but also avg less points.
If they weren't trolling and truly believed that, they are a special kind of stupid. Lebron the best player in the league, Kyrie who has proved he's a superstar of last Finals didn't convince you, and Love who is a legit star. They're not losing to any east teams in a long time
CUTWEST 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🤦🏾♂️ before the playoffs stared the Cavs was gonna lose to the Pacers or Raptors now it oh the would've lost to the Bulls stop hating appreciate the greatness your seeing
both better than Wade and Bosh? for what? a year!? Wade is better player than Pippen fool, get your story straight and was a top 5 player when Lebron got there Pippen was never top 5 and could never carry a game offensively like Wade Rodman is better in 1996 but you do realize he came in at 34 years old. not prime years & wasn't there for the first 3 championships that he played 64 games in 1996 & 55 games in 1997 and they STILL Broke the record and tied the old record in Wins! Rodman averaged 8 rebounds in the playoffs in 1997 he didn't start in 17 of the 40 games. how much of a contribution is that really? 12 of his 19 games in 1997 were single digit rebound games and lets face it HE'S DOING NOTHING on offense 4pts 9 reb = thats his last 2 series in 1998 vs IND & UTAH playing 30 min you children make it out to be like MJs teammates dominated! there are games they DONT SHOW UP and they still won show me the game where Wade can get single digit pts &Bosh can get single digit rebounds and Lebron can win a game? NEVER HAPPENING because i can find playoff games where Pippen and Rodman both do NOTHING! and the Bulls still win because they have HIM you keep looking at #s go down for Bosh little do you realize all players #s go down on better teams especially as a 3rd option Rodman didn't have his best rebounding years with the Bulls, Pippen's #s drop from 1994 where the team isn;t as good and he's not the main player Irving isn't the leagues best PG WTF does that mean? does Lebron NEED the leagues best PG to win? Love "is trash", he's the best PF in the East and was top flight PF before he got to CLE all of a sudden he's trash. If he ever left you are looking at 22pts and 13 reb Maybe Lebron should improve his teammates but instead he has all his fans like you making EXCUSES for him The generation of EXCUSES!
Mj greatest scorer....Lebron is greatest overall player... Lebron isnt even a scorer... and does anyone take into account rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, and overall impact????
Lebron isnt even a scorer? He's a selective scorer, he scores when he wants to and with ease at that. You sounds crazy saying that. Lebron is a scorer but also does a lot more
Not Reverse Flash yes MJ has more steals. Moree blocks averaged more steals and averaged more blocks and he shot better from three and hes a way better defender and a way better clutch player thats way mj is the goat
Can we please just respect greatness? Bring up all the stats you want to protect MJ just because LeBron surpassed him in something, but LeBron James is one of the greatest individual talents in the history of sports. There hasn't been much lik ehim who can managed a sustained indiviudal run of dominance like he can. The game will never be the same when he's gone. Just remember that.
he lost 4 finals and got swept in a finals series by the MAVS. also scored 8 points in a playoff game. u cant ignore that but u and many of his fans always do.
LeBronFearsTerranceJones As of 1-23-17 he got swept by the spurs 3 hof players and a hof coach at the age of 22 if thats a stain than getting swept in th 1st round multiple times is atrocious. play better in the regular season and get a better seed to avoid boston in the first round
Maurice Williams you sound dumb. so ur basing who is better based on 1st round playoff wins instead of Championship wins. LMAO. Lebron can never be GOAT. it takes him more time to play than Jordan to get any of his scoring records. Lebron has played more career minutes. MJ still has more scoring titles, more defensive awards, more steals, more championships, ETC. if Lebron passes him n any of those, which in some he wont, it will continue to take him more time to play than it took MJ. MJ also always delivered in clutch, Lebron cracks under pressure and couldnt even play when there was no AC in the building.
LeBronFearsTerranceJones As of 1-23-17 woah woah woah! Wth do you mean by the MAVS? The mavs were stacked, prime Dirk, Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion and much more. He even forced 2 games against them. Who th told you they were swept? Smh
Why does Skip always give Bron a hard time on everything??! He's such a hater! What has LeBron ever done to him? Records are meant to be broken, get over it Skip! One day someone will probably break Lebron's record, it's just part of the game. I bet when Bron retired so will Skip because he will have nothing left to talk about.
Cheetoz PLAYS yeah. he's just playing his role. him and Stephen a got big roasting him after Dallas series but skip never stopped, has to stay relevant lmao
Skip shoulda stayed in First Take, Stephen Smith wouldn't have roasted him for being a Lebron hater as much as Shannon is LOL. That man getting roasted for hating on Lebron
Y'all need to learn to let Michael Jordan Go. You can't be the best forever. Lebron the goat. He's a better overall player. Haven't been in good positions like Michael had. Coach players etc. lebron best team was Miami with a descending wade and average bosh. Let it go guys
Luis D like I said lebron the best statistically and overall. He can do way more than Kobe and MJ and change a game in different ways. Lebron can. It score at all and still make his team win.
Dkouts57 first of every player lebron played with fg % goes up at lease 5-7% he make people around him better than Jordan. If you take Scottie n rodman off them teams Jordan looses at least 2-3 of them finals. This man loss to the warriors in a game 6 averaging 35 13 and 8 the best on both teams could have won finals Mvp even though he didn't win. Yeah he had prior struggles. But every player did. He going to 7 straight finals n despite the loses that's still a tough journey
Dkouts57 if you put Michael Jordan on this cavs team or the old cavs team when he played the spurs in the first finals. They loose mike don't get others involved like James his play making and distributing makes it easier
Jordan won in 1998 and both Pippen and Rodman did next to nothing! Can i take Wade & Bosh off Lebron's team? what about Allen?? Can i take Kyrie & Love off Lebron's teams? How many rings would Lebron have then? I can assure you that if the Warriors tried playing Jordan straight up the way they did Lebron in 2015 you would see multiple 50pt games and more wins but that strategy would never be applied. For Lebron the journey begins in the Finals Lets be real, since he's jumped back n forth in the East the conference is an absolute joke! and his road to the Finals has been very easy. I will say his Finals opponents are tougher than Jordan's overall but like I said earlier Lebron has had more help than Jordan as well
If you put Jordan on the Heat with Wade and Bosh you can GUARANTEE minimum 3 rings, GUARANTEE! so already that argument is faulty Under the same circumstances , if the Warriors tried playing Jordan the way they guarded Lebron in 2015 Jordan's average may be around 50pts, I won't say the Cavs would win but i can promise the idea of playing him 1 on 1 & control the ball as much as he did like they did would never happen but they would win Last year as well This year If Lebron loses & i expect him too, I won't hold anything against him If he plays well and loses THATS FINE! hes still among the greatest ONLY if he plays terrible and they get wrecked can he have any negatives thrown his way he played good vs the Spurs & got wrecked in 2014, the only negative is that HIS MAN, the guy he's guarding lit him up and won MVP. That I can say for MANY great players WOULD NEVER HAPPEN! especially since prior to that Kawhi had done nothing like what he did If he wins this Finals WITHOUT any *suspensions or * injuries or BOTH Well I'll have him an eyelash away from being on the same level I have Jordan #1 clear cut! Lebron to me is already in the discussion for #2 where Russell is ( i know different era but respect the history just like we'll want 50yrs from now them to respect Lebron) I've put him ahead of other legendary players already, if he retired today. Only terrible performances can change that but again HE'S NOT DONE i expect another 2 fabulous years MINIMUM
Just appreciate Greatness..... it doesnt matter if you lose or won ... if it was about championships ... why isnt robert horry mentioned , john havlacek , sam johns , bill russel... rings doesnt matter bkuz theirs players in the hallof fame With no rings & no finals experience....He not the only player that had flaws...
thats just stupid. no matter how many rings Horry, Russel, etc have, they dont have the rest of the tools Jordan had. watch them play then compare and its obvious who was better
Because MJ was responsible for ALL those championships, pressure was ON HIS shoulders. With the exception of Bill Russel all those players you mentioned were role players. It`s about rings, it`s about winning, it`s about showing how much you WANT IT. No one is more competitive than MJ. MJ never lost his composure in ANY SERIES, We`ve seen Lebron crumble under pressure way too many times to give him a pass.
Being swept in the finals is 100 times worst than being swept in first round. It is really more common. And acceptable to be swept in first round than being swept in finals. Being 1st seed vs 8th seed on the other hand you'll expect more competition in the finals given that both teams dominated their respective conference.
Lebron`s first appearance in the finals, he GOT SWEPT and his second appearance he disappeared against an OLD Dirk and Jason Kidd, MJ achieved more in fewer seasons than Lebron. Also, MJ never went 7 games in the finals, he always took out his teams out. BUT THAT`S NONE OF MY BUSINESS.
AlbanianGamer well i mean if you want Jordán to play in a conoleatly different way that no one in his époc had even tried this removing every ounce of objectivity to the argument go ahead ive made my case
before your hypebeast Jordan fans gets triggered take moment think about how much more point lebron gonna score when he retire. people really find anyway to argues Lebron's greatness.
hmmm..Lebron has played way more time/minutes than MJ and Finally he passed one of his records. in the same playing time Lebron could not, and Did Not equal MJ. he still hasnt passed MJ in career points and has played more. not to mention less championships, less scoring titles, less defensive awards, ETC. MJ has 41 playoff records, Lebron finally now has 1. lol
LeBronFearsTerranceJones As of 1-23-17 is leading a series in every major statistical category for both teams a record? idk if thats considered a record just asking
I said Jordan has 41 PLAYOFF RECORDS. learn to read. i did not even mention his NBA records. and more lies, what 63 records does Lebron have? I'll wait. Lebron can never be GOAT. it takes him longer to play to try to catch up to MJ. smh. and he will never have the Glory and Legacy that Jordan has. never. 6-0 finals, Always delivered in the clutch. Lebron cracks under pressure many times and couldnt even play in a game cuz there was no AC.
skip is still hater no matter what show he's on but i must admit shannon debates him better than sas does. he knew how to get under sas skin and soon after all the yelling would start. shannon just lets him hate and then calmly points out the fact that he left out the fact that jordan took more shots and skippy has no comeback lol. priceless.
And years later he’s praising KD that was going for 50 but choked his FF against the bucks & clearly shows frustration after he missed & ended with 49 🤡🤣
I'm starting to like this show more than first take, Stephen a smith is so fake, all of a sudden he turned into a lebron hater at least skip been a lebron since day 1 lol
you right I noticed LeBron was hated on for a first half of the game he had 4 fouls he had to sit and still dominated in the 4 th quarter clutch shot after clutch shot and won the game with 34 points and and won , sas said he had a bad game lol first take is starting to be a joke
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Lebron James would save skip's wife from a fire and he would say Michael Jordan could do it better and faster
Chidera Okonkwo W
Well, that's UNDISPUTED.
He'd probably say Lebron saved her life because he lacks the killer instinct that Jordan had😂
Monwabisi Nondyola LOL
Monwabisi Nondyola LMAO
when you look for the meaning of HATER
it means SKIP BAYLESS
the same goes for Colin Cowherd towards Westbrook
Frederick Belmes you are absolutely right.
Frederick Belmes it also means Nick Wright too. Vice Versa
You will find his picture on the dictionary right next to the definition of hater
😂😂😂😂😂😂. Facts
Skip wasn't ready for this one, he just got crushed
Zach Haines LMAO!!!
Zach Haines lmaoooo skip did get crushed . I'm laughing so hard at this . Especially when they were talking about the 3 point line
every time..
Zach Haines true
Dapper Don nobody made Jordan fade away go away
People really hate Lebron so much. No matter what he does he'll still get criticized. It's so sad.
life man... Even Gandhi was hated
NBAbram they hated on Jesus. What can you say bro? Bron is the modern day black Jesus, they can't do anything but hate.
NBAbram he's just not in the same universe as Jordan. He's top 5, I'll give him that but he's not even the "second greatest" of all-time (let alone the "greatest" lmao) like some casuals nowadays are saying. He's still got a lot to prove to me for me to acknowledge him as the goat. It's a pretty tall mountain to climb and I don't think he'll ever reach that summit. It's not hating, it's just being objective.
NBAbram He wasn't the first and he won't be the last. Remember Kobe went through the same thing. Despite what the media does, we can all appreciate having a player worth comparing to the GOAT MJ. I think once Lebron's career comes to an end people will begin to appreciate the greatness we all got to witness just as we all celebrate Kobe's career now that it is over with. The GOAT discussion is and will always be up a never ending debate because each athlete excels in different areas. Everybody just chill and just enjoy the sport and remember......MJ will always be the GREATEST OF ALL TIME MUHAHAHAHAHAHA
Datsizer Leonard got carried off by an ankle injury so is he not great because he got carried. Revoke your basketball card
LeBron can't be happy about breaking Jordan's record?!😂 He's a human being, who tf wouldn't keep tabs that game?!
LeBron simply points a finger to the sky after passing Jordan for most playoffs points.
Skip: omg LeBron was trying to tell the world that he's the new GOAT !
That's the sports media for you lmao
T-Minus Infinity If LeBron done more than just pointed a finger up Skip wouldn't even more totally lost his mind. Seriously.
T-Minus Infinity LeBron doesn't even seem to really care he's just proud of a hard achievement that most people never think they can do and to b number 1 in playoff scoring, who wouldn't be happy, he's not trying to brag at all
T-Minus Infinity that's what I said!!! it's a.huge deal
Skip is the biggest Lebron hater of all time. I've never in my life seen someone with Lebron's skill set and work ethic (not to mention his flawless record of not getting in any trouble off the court) get hated on so much. Technically he embodies everything you could ask for from a professional athlete.
but we always look over MJ's issues for some reason haha
everything you said the truth with out a doubt. skip shouldn't be commentating because he hates Lebron to the core.
Damion Dethrow am a Kobe fan, but you on point
Exactly... Lebron is literally everything we want in our athletes, but for some reason half the fans hate him. MJ punched his teammates, he cheated on his wife, he had a gambling scandal... Lebron has been the opposite. No trouble with the law or anything like that.
+Denny Kaleal great man and NBA player
Shannon be on his game
YUBH8TN 247365 Shannon left that idiot dumbstruck with them stats.
true that
YUBH8TN 247365
Shannon was well prepared.
Dapper Don Do u copy and paste a lot or what? Jordan is by far the goat and it's not even close. Jordan won dpoy, 10x scoring champion and 6-0 in the finals with 6 finals mvps and 6 Rings. Plus Jordan had like 5 season mvps. GTFOH!!
@Dapper Don but thats his descision to take those harder shots
So Skip is just admitting that Lebron is a scorer AND a playmaker haha
Skip Bayless fired Shannon.
C'mon - this is farcical. I'm not a big LeBron fan - but you have to respect the guy. His athleticism, work ethic and - most importantly - the way he represents the league is unparalleled. Plus - there was no social media during the Jordan era - the scrutiny that LeBron is under is unparalleled. You can argue GOAT - but the disrespect is ridiculous.
Joe Thomas now we got someone around that has respect for some greatness thank you I get tired of all these haters, hating on such players and they aren't even lebron
Joe the problem with so many on here (not saying you) is that if you don't recognize 'ol Bron Bron as greater than Mike and the GOAT, then you have no respect for him, his talents, or his accomplishments. Nothing could be further from the truth
Jordan is better
Mason Wright nope... Bron is better but MJ has the best resumé...no way MJ threepeats twice in today's nba...
@TEAM XBOX How does that sound ignorant? It's an opinion backed by facts and what ive witnessed from both. Not agreeing with does not make me ignorant bud.
Only Skip could see a humble speech from LeBron about Jordan as something else lmao
Mike Michaux exactly lol its always some motive
Mike Michaux exactly skip missed the entire point lol
Mike Michaux Ikr
Are you that biased you couldn't see the arrogance in lebrons speech? Lmao
The Bipartisan Campaign the irony of your comment
LeBron could walk on water like JESUS CHRIST and Skip would say "That's because he can't swim" 😂🖕
BronSexual's Unite!
LeGod > JorBRICK
Offxcial Wonn L 3-4 is better then 6-6 please
nah he could walk on water cuz Ray Allen hit the shot
stop stealing other peoples quotes
"LeBron James is the all time worst 3 point shooter in the NBA history"
moments later after hearing LeBron passed Jordan with fewer shot attempts.
"LeBron makes bunch of 3 pointers, that's why".
Yeah Skip...sure, we get you!
That's a ridiculous argument there. You forgot to mention he also is on the 13th spot of the most free throws made. So what, does that make him one of the best FT shooters? The man goes to the line so frequently, that's why he makes and misses many Free Throws. LeBron is an overall 74% FT shooter, which is not very good; but not bad either. You can't possibly call a man with 74% one of the worst FT shooters in the history.
Skip lost this one for sure.
ryno6192 Agreed
ryno6192 he's always wrong
MURDERED BY SHANNON
It doesn’t matter how many shots you take
IceCold at that point he has the lowest 3pt percentage in the playoffs
This was the hardest I've ever seen skip Bayless get roasted! 😂😆
TheBeastboy720 haha I know dude 😂
Trevor C I mean yea but his Cavs teams were trash plus the management was god awful
Le King you shouldve seen earlier w cris carter nd nick wright lol they was smacking him around like he was child lol
Gotti Cruz I saw it yoo 😂 hahaha he was backed into a corner.
Le King lol THATTTT! is the worse i ever seen skip lol he was stuttering w nothing to sa
The 3 point line was closer in the '94-'95 & '96-97' seasons.
Dto_daJ MJ was retired for most of that time
@@zip34ut nah he wasn't he won a championship in 1996 and 1997 wtf are you talking about.
Dto_daJ lmao they moved it back so Jordan could make shots after retirement
@@zip34ut lmao yall will say anything 😅
That thumbnail already foreshadows what Skip is gonna be doing to Michael Jordan this vid. LMAOOO
King Of The Vox IM DEAADD😂😂😂
King Of The Vox you won the internet today Sir.
Shannon makes the thumbnails for the show
King Of The Vox 😭😭😭 W
King Of The Vox same thing I said 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Skip just said that he's objective about lebron 😂
Blane Ries lmfao i was just about to comment it
Blane Ries right 😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️
Blane Ries hahaha. He tried hiding the fact that lebron did it in less shots than MJ too.
Dr.CookiesNeedLoveLikeEverthingDoes learn to read
He is
skip got exposed damn
hiphopmusicallday 😂😂
No he didn't
Leonardus but he did.
hiphopmusicallday like always
Dapper Don so you're using Lebron's physical attributes as a knock against him cause he can create easier shots?! 😂 I swear you haters will say anything to discredit Lebron lol
The pass-first mentality player passed Mike. Impressive. Skip Bayless is in a usual troll mode with his subpar analysis.
😂 exactly
A pass first guy who only averages 2 more assists per game and only less shots per game
@@MrSPIDEY21 2 More than Michael and 2 better
Real subpar
LeBron has never been pass first. What kind of pass first guy averages 27pts and 7 assists ? Pass first guys are like Magic or John Stockton.
Lebron says Michael Jordan is like god! Skips analysis: Lebron thinks he is better than Jordan! Wait what?
Skip knows exactly what he's doing
lmao Accurate af. It still makes me wonder how Skip gets paid millions of dollars to troll, every single day.
Creux He is not Trolling. When Lebron gets 7 Titles, 7 Finals MVPs and 11 Scoring Titles, he will be GOAT.
He just doesn't have better Results than MJ right now
MJ GOAT
Skip has a tiny D
Kakaroto K MJ is retired. After retiring twice before and having a total of 4 years of rest to only come back and not even make the playoffs several years in a row with Richard Hamilton as a teammate in his prime. That's the Goat in your book? Yet Scottie still made the playoffs at the same time each year.
Skip is nothing but a LeBron hater
Nah he's just a truth teller
Leonardus ur an idiot
@@kryptonardus nah he a hater & a idiot
@@kryptonardus He's known as a CLOWN in America. As Chuck used to say, Skip is the biggest joke in the history of journalism.
Skip, "lebron passed MJ but dont forget ray allen"
Shannon, "skeeeuuuupppppp"
Skip still trying his best to discredit lebron's achievements.
polaris c he never fails
polaris c wouldn't expect
nothingelse
polaris c I was just about to say that.
polaris c that's cause as great as LeBron is he's overrated when compared to Jordan. LeBron may end up 2nd to Jordan but LeBron fans won't listen to that they want him number 1 and he simply is not but that doesn't mean he isn't great.
I think it's bette that one guy defends Lebron and one guy unjustly criticizes Lebron. They bring out stats and context to back up everything.
Ps. skip hates Lebron.
"All time worst playoff 3p shooter" come again? try top 10 of all time.
Lebron:
more assists
more rebounds
higher FG%, higher TS% (more efficient scorer)
what again makes it so blasphemous to call Lebrons name next to Jordan?
MCFoultier Jordan never choked in the finals
KingOfTheJungle might have choked earlier...
You know, lebron had one very poor playoff series against the mavs. Other than that, he pretty much always delivered.
Jordan did some things Lebron never did, but Lebron also did some things Jordan was never able to do.
Individually, they are pretty close.
Its at least debatable who is better.
MCFoultier there's a difference between losing, and choking/quitting. Jordan has lost multiple 7 game series in his career but he never choked or quit on his team. In 2010 LeBron quit on his team in 3 separate games against Boston in the playoffs. LeBron has the talent but doesn't have Jordan's heart. Kobe has the heart and a lot of talent to go with it, but not as much talent as Jordan or LeBron. Point is MJ is the only guy you can look at and say he has the total package.
KingOfTheJungle I dont know the guy, and neither do you.
Hard to imagine the most successful basketball player of the last ten years got to the point where he is today by not having the heart or not trying everything all the time in big moments if you think about it.
I used to get in arguments like this, but then I remembered it's 100% objective, so we can all just chill and appreciate how great BOTH of these players are...
mike hawk this guy is very smart no-one should hate on talent like this unless you can prove to me right now that your better than lebron.
The thing is skip lebron is not a scorer, how hard is it to not see that. He is a point guard in a foward body
Doofy the game was more physical
La'Tonia Way nobody cares
Aka a point forward 👍🏽
Averages 27 points for his career. Not a scorer.
The Avatar that just shows how great he is, he's a pass first guy
Gotdamnnn!!! Shannon ruined skip on this one
Shannon dropped knowledge on Skip... Then Skip says the 3 point line is more valued but will call LeBron a terrible 3 point shooter... LOL.. This is funny... And always leaving out facts...
not only that but if mj attempted 100 more shots without series going to 7 games thats what we call a shot chucker. no wonder MJ said westbrook reminded him of himself.
One Kxng shannon embarrassed skip on this topic
David Dolgin is this real facts??
He shoots 1.5-2% better than Kobe from 3 and Kobe shot 1200 more 3 point shots. Not impressive at all.
LOL. you cant compare Lebrons career percentages players that have retired because his career is not over yet
Shannon just owned Skip. The man is smart he knows what hes talking about.
Cameron l 10 l you say that until you disagree with him later I'm assuming
Cameron l 10 l unless he's talkn about the raiders he says a bunch of bias bs becuz hes a donkey at heart#RN4L
Adam Sandler hi
only lebum fan boys agree with shannon
First 14 seasons of MJ VS Lebron. What about rebounds and assist Skip.
Saberwulff what about defense, blocks steals, clutch play, and shooting threes saberwolf??
Food For Thought threes go to lbj
The game is about winning. If ur stats are the best n there are fewer Ws then u cant be the GOAT. Gr8 stats is like having the best handles but unable to score.
Dr. Nurse I guess by your logic bill russell is the goat lol
MJ cant be the GOAT if you go by wins. Russell has the most rings.
What noise is that noise Shannon makes at 2:56 😂😂
APUSSS😂😂
lmaooooooo
Zak Miller 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
BRO IM DEAD
sneez??
Everybody who knows anything about basketball knows Lebron is a pass first player and not a natural scorer which makes what hes achieved even more special.
Skieeeeeuup is such a trolll
everyone is saying he played so many more games then jordan but he did it in more games on less shots than jordan which to me is so impressive
Back then there were best of 3 and best of 5 in the first two rounds as well.
I know, which is more impressive LOL.
Brendon Pierson yet he attempted more than twice 3pt attempts
alidasher so blame him 4 being a better or more confident 3 point shooter?... u sound stupid
513OVA EVERYTHING oh ok I sound stupid? They equal out since Jordan took more two point shots but bron took less overall shots but also avg less points.
Wait, are people forgetting MJ played with a shortened 3 point-line?
Butterbean No he didn't
erm, yes he did... It's a pretty known fact just go look it up...
In the NBA it was shortened ?
Sam Emerson bro wtf if that's true I lost all credibility for Jordan
I thought the NBA 3 point line has always been the same but I guess not
"put em in the hall.......RIGHT NOW"😂😂😂😂
L to all the people who said Cavs were a first round exit!!!!
If they weren't trolling and truly believed that, they are a special kind of stupid. Lebron the best player in the league, Kyrie who has proved he's a superstar of last Finals didn't convince you, and Love who is a legit star. They're not losing to any east teams in a long time
Brando Williams "heat/bulls in 4"
Brando Williams ‼️‼️‼️‼️
Brando Williams I don't think anyone said that besides Skeeeuuup
CUTWEST 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🤦🏾♂️ before the playoffs stared the Cavs was gonna lose to the Pacers or Raptors now it oh the would've lost to the Bulls stop hating appreciate the greatness your seeing
6:25 "What does that tell you, Thkipp?
Skip: (pause to let his brain come up with an excuse) "Well........"
How many assists and rebounds they had at season 14th?? take that for data
how many Rings do they have after season 14
Take that for data
Dkouts57 L
Show me a ring Jordan won without Pippen. L
show me the ring Lebron has WIthout playing with 2 all stars?
both better than Wade and Bosh? for what? a year!?
Wade is better player than Pippen fool, get your story straight and was a top 5 player when Lebron got there
Pippen was never top 5 and could never carry a game offensively like Wade
Rodman is better in 1996 but you do realize he came in at 34 years old. not prime years
& wasn't there for the first 3 championships
that he played 64 games in 1996 & 55 games in 1997
and they STILL Broke the record and tied the old record in Wins!
Rodman averaged 8 rebounds in the playoffs in 1997
he didn't start in 17 of the 40 games. how much of a contribution is that really?
12 of his 19 games in 1997 were single digit rebound games and lets face it HE'S DOING NOTHING on offense
4pts 9 reb = thats his last 2 series in 1998 vs IND & UTAH playing 30 min
you children make it out to be like MJs teammates dominated!
there are games they DONT SHOW UP and they still won
show me the game where Wade can get single digit pts &Bosh can get single digit rebounds and Lebron can win a game? NEVER HAPPENING
because i can find playoff games where Pippen and Rodman both do NOTHING! and the Bulls still win because they have HIM
you keep looking at #s go down for Bosh
little do you realize all players #s go down on better teams especially as a 3rd option
Rodman didn't have his best rebounding years with the Bulls, Pippen's #s drop from 1994 where the team isn;t as good and he's not the main player
Irving isn't the leagues best PG WTF does that mean?
does Lebron NEED the leagues best PG to win?
Love "is trash", he's the best PF in the East and was top flight PF before he got to CLE
all of a sudden he's trash. If he ever left you are looking at 22pts and 13 reb
Maybe Lebron should improve his teammates
but instead he has all his fans like you making EXCUSES for him
The generation of EXCUSES!
ive never seen skip be so quite 😂😂
The noise at 2:57 killed me 😂😂
LMFAOOOO i was hoping someone else heard it
APAWWSS
😂😂
The Don loooooooooool! im weak! "Ah-pause!!!"
Mj greatest scorer....Lebron is greatest overall player... Lebron isnt even a scorer... and does anyone take into account rebounds, assists, steals, blocks, and overall impact????
Not Reverse Flash lebron is a scorer but it isn't his priority
caleel dasan lebron is a facilitator, like magic he is not a scoring machine like jordan.
Lebron isnt even a scorer? He's a selective scorer, he scores when he wants to and with ease at that. You sounds crazy saying that. Lebron is a scorer but also does a lot more
MJ averaged more points, steals, blocks, and had a better fg and ft percentage
Not Reverse Flash yes MJ has more steals. Moree blocks averaged more steals and averaged more blocks and he shot better from three and hes a way better defender and a way better clutch player thats way mj is the goat
anyone else tired of the lebron an micheal comparisons
LeBron isn't even known as a "scorer".. just imagine if he didn't care about assists.. and he's not even close to being done..
Just imagine.
BB13131313 if he didn't care about assist then he would be like a kobe
BB13131313 probably average like 50 points a game
Speak the truth
BB13131313 bet he'll retire this year tho
Over 2,000 more shots? That is ridiculous! Sure sounds like a team player to me.
Can we please just respect greatness? Bring up all the stats you want to protect MJ just because LeBron surpassed him in something, but LeBron James is one of the greatest individual talents in the history of sports. There hasn't been much lik ehim who can managed a sustained indiviudal run of dominance like he can. The game will never be the same when he's gone. Just remember that.
he lost 4 finals and got swept in a finals series by the MAVS. also scored 8 points in a playoff game. u cant ignore that but u and many of his fans always do.
LeBronFearsTerranceJones As of 1-23-17 he got swept by the spurs 3 hof players and a hof coach at the age of 22 if thats a stain than getting swept in th 1st round multiple times is atrocious. play better in the regular season and get a better seed to avoid boston in the first round
Maurice Williams you sound dumb. so ur basing who is better based on 1st round playoff wins instead of Championship wins. LMAO. Lebron can never be GOAT. it takes him more time to play than Jordan to get any of his scoring records. Lebron has played more career minutes. MJ still has more scoring titles, more defensive awards, more steals, more championships, ETC. if Lebron passes him n any of those, which in some he wont, it will continue to take him more time to play than it took MJ. MJ also always delivered in clutch, Lebron cracks under pressure and couldnt even play when there was no AC in the building.
Stephen Curry you sound like troll Frfr Lebron just athletic Karl Malone
LeBronFearsTerranceJones As of 1-23-17 woah woah woah! Wth do you mean by the MAVS? The mavs were stacked, prime Dirk, Jason Kidd, Shawn Marion and much more. He even forced 2 games against them. Who th told you they were swept? Smh
But he shot 133 fewer shots than MJ and he broke his record lol
In much more games and against easier competition
The Guy lmaooo what ?? easier competition when. mj was being guarded nobody near his athleticism
@@kalix975 your statement is false
Sean Kelly lmao so the competition then was better or worse nowadays
Sean Kelly it’s not at all😂 joe dumars and Gary Payton was 6’2/6’3 and not athletic while Jordan is 6’6
Remember Skip averaged 1.4pts in HIGHSCHOOL nothing he says will ever stand when it comes to shooting free throws or any other shot
bruh name another 6'8 6'9 player averages 27 points and 8 assists in his career
7 assist* goooootcha
He can pass but he has weaknesses
liil sneezy larry bird
Magic Johnson 😂 and he started at PG. You must be new to basket ball.
Jamal Garlan jordan didn’t have any weaknesses right
shannon: put em in the hall of fame RIGHT NOW!!
I fell in love with the game of basketball when I was 8 years old because of Michael Jordan too. MJ The 🐐.
Alejandro Gomez yes that’s why you biased respect greatness you people disrespect Lebrun all the time
Why does Skip always give Bron a hard time on everything??! He's such a hater! What has LeBron ever done to him? Records are meant to be broken, get over it Skip! One day someone will probably break Lebron's record, it's just part of the game. I bet when Bron retired so will Skip because he will have nothing left to talk about.
Skip is acting lol its scripted
Cheetoz PLAYS yeah. he's just playing his role. him and Stephen a got big roasting him after Dallas series but skip never stopped, has to stay relevant lmao
"RIGHT NOW!!!!"
SHannon Smashed Skip this one lol
Skip shoulda stayed in First Take, Stephen Smith wouldn't have roasted him for being a Lebron hater as much as Shannon is LOL. That man getting roasted for hating on Lebron
RIGHT NOWWW!! 9:20 LMFAO
Y'all need to learn to let Michael Jordan Go. You can't be the best forever. Lebron the goat. He's a better overall player. Haven't been in good positions like Michael had. Coach players etc. lebron best team was Miami with a descending wade and average bosh. Let it go guys
Luis D like I said lebron the best statistically and overall. He can do way more than Kobe and MJ and change a game in different ways. Lebron can. It score at all and still make his team win.
Dkouts57 first of every player lebron played with fg % goes up at lease 5-7% he make people around him better than Jordan. If you take Scottie n rodman off them teams Jordan looses at least 2-3 of them finals. This man loss to the warriors in a game 6 averaging 35 13 and 8 the best on both teams could have won finals Mvp even though he didn't win. Yeah he had prior struggles. But every player did. He going to 7 straight finals n despite the loses that's still a tough journey
Dkouts57 if you put Michael Jordan on this cavs team or the old cavs team when he played the spurs in the first finals. They loose mike don't get others involved like James his play making and distributing makes it easier
Jordan won in 1998 and both Pippen and Rodman did next to nothing!
Can i take Wade & Bosh off Lebron's team? what about Allen??
Can i take Kyrie & Love off Lebron's teams?
How many rings would Lebron have then?
I can assure you that if the Warriors tried playing Jordan straight up the way they did Lebron in 2015 you would see multiple 50pt games and more wins but that strategy would never be applied.
For Lebron the journey begins in the Finals
Lets be real, since he's jumped back n forth in the East the conference is an absolute joke! and his road to the Finals has been very easy.
I will say his Finals opponents are tougher than Jordan's overall but like I said earlier
Lebron has had more help than Jordan as well
If you put Jordan on the Heat with Wade and Bosh
you can GUARANTEE minimum 3 rings, GUARANTEE!
so already that argument is faulty
Under the same circumstances , if the Warriors tried playing Jordan the way they guarded Lebron in 2015
Jordan's average may be around 50pts, I won't say the Cavs would win but i can promise the idea of playing him 1 on 1 & control the ball as much as he did like they did would never happen
but they would win Last year as well
This year
If Lebron loses & i expect him too, I won't hold anything against him
If he plays well and loses THATS FINE! hes still among the greatest
ONLY
if he plays terrible and they get wrecked can he have any negatives thrown his way
he played good vs the Spurs & got wrecked in 2014, the only negative is that HIS MAN, the guy he's guarding lit him up and won MVP.
That I can say for MANY great players WOULD NEVER HAPPEN! especially since prior to that Kawhi had done nothing like what he did
If he wins this Finals WITHOUT any *suspensions or * injuries or BOTH
Well
I'll have him an eyelash away from being on the same level
I have Jordan #1 clear cut!
Lebron to me is already in the discussion for #2 where Russell is ( i know different era but respect the history just like we'll want 50yrs from now them to respect Lebron)
I've put him ahead of other legendary players already, if he retired today. Only terrible performances can change that
but again
HE'S NOT DONE
i expect another 2 fabulous years MINIMUM
At 6:31 the Face Skip Bayles FINALLY realizes: “Man I just got Owned.”
What is a humble brag 🤔💭💭..... really Skip
gershon garbrah 😂 he hates him so much
1. LeBron James
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Micheal Jordan
You're literally nuts that its actually funny
🤣🤣 no dawg and I'm a Lebron fan
lebron is the goat, but nah michael is second, and kobe is third for me
I remembered this video from a couple years go lol. Flawless victory by Unc
The real GOAT is the survival of that hairline
Then they both lose cause that ain't LeBron's hairline.
Kobby Agyei whats funny is he made a joke about that
Old now....
He needs the credit he deserves, the greatest player all around to EVER step on the court! Hands down!
C'mon Skip... this is getting sad
Just appreciate Greatness..... it doesnt matter if you lose or won ... if it was about championships ... why isnt robert horry mentioned , john havlacek , sam johns , bill russel... rings doesnt matter bkuz theirs players in the hallof fame With no rings & no finals experience....He not the only player that had flaws...
Curtis Barnett thank you well said
Curtis Barnett you are super right !!
Curtis Barnett He can be great. He just isn't greater than Michael Jordan
thats just stupid. no matter how many rings Horry, Russel, etc have, they dont have the rest of the tools Jordan had. watch them play then compare and its obvious who was better
Because MJ was responsible for ALL those championships, pressure was ON HIS shoulders. With the exception of Bill Russel all those players you mentioned were role players. It`s about rings, it`s about winning, it`s about showing how much you WANT IT. No one is more competitive than MJ. MJ never lost his composure in ANY SERIES, We`ve seen Lebron crumble under pressure way too many times to give him a pass.
Maybe if MJ didn't get swept in the first round multiple times he would have a lot more points
TRN maybe is LeBron didnt lose FOUR finals, he would be a better player haha
TRN atleast he never got swept in the finals
Ali Kobaissi or if he didn't jump to whatever team gave him the easiest route to the finals
Ali Kobaissi atleast he made it
Being swept in the finals is 100 times worst than being swept in first round. It is really more common. And acceptable to be swept in first round than being swept in finals. Being 1st seed vs 8th seed on the other hand you'll expect more competition in the finals given that both teams dominated their respective conference.
Still cant believe this was 4 years ago and The King is still doing great things, Greatest Basketball Player Ever is Goat James
Biggest fraid
Also Mike took 118 more shot attempts than LeBron but that's none of my business
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Ben Winter MJ never lost a Finals appearance but that's none of my business
+Ali Kobaissi MJ never went to the Finals as much as LeBron but that's none of my buisness
+Ali Kobaissi Lebron has NEVER been eliminated in the first round, Jordan's been swept on MULTIPLE occasions... but that's none of my business LMAO
Lebron`s first appearance in the finals, he GOT SWEPT and his second appearance he disappeared against an OLD Dirk and Jason Kidd, MJ achieved more in fewer seasons than Lebron. Also, MJ never went 7 games in the finals, he always took out his teams out. BUT THAT`S NONE OF MY BUSINESS.
Scoring Scoring Scoring = how good you are. Kareem = GOAT
lmaooooo skippp face expression when Shannon start spitting the facts
Shannon's on the money here with the shots taken stat!
Lebron took 200 less shots, wow.
Ryan Abbey yeah but a lot more of those were 3 pointers
gerardgag so MJ should've taken more 3's then right?
Ryan Abbey thats a really weak thing to say when the league average for 3 pointers per game has almost tripled
AlbanianGamer well i mean if you want Jordán to play in a conoleatly different way that no one in his époc had even tried this removing every ounce of objectivity to the argument go ahead ive made my case
3s are a part of the game how can you knock lebron for being more efficient, lebron haters will come up with anything.
WHO WOULDNT KEEP TRACK ON HOW MANY POINTS THEY NEED TO PASS THE GOAT MJ, I HATE SKIP
Props Bron. It's a great accomplishment.
before your hypebeast Jordan fans gets triggered take moment think about how much more point lebron gonna score when he retire. people really find anyway to argues Lebron's greatness.
The Kang last time I checked the hypebeasts were the lebron fans lmao keeping being a prisoner of the moment my brotha.
hmmm..Lebron has played way more time/minutes than MJ and Finally he passed one of his records. in the same playing time Lebron could not, and Did Not equal MJ. he still hasnt passed MJ in career points and has played more. not to mention less championships, less scoring titles, less defensive awards, ETC. MJ has 41 playoff records, Lebron finally now has 1. lol
LeBronFearsTerranceJones As of 1-23-17 lebron has 63 nba recrods. jordan has 41. what were you saying again jordansexual?
LeBronFearsTerranceJones As of 1-23-17 is leading a series in every major statistical category for both teams a record? idk if thats considered a record just asking
I said Jordan has 41 PLAYOFF RECORDS. learn to read. i did not even mention his NBA records. and more lies, what 63 records does Lebron have? I'll wait. Lebron can never be GOAT. it takes him longer to play to try to catch up to MJ. smh. and he will never have the Glory and Legacy that Jordan has. never. 6-0 finals, Always delivered in the clutch. Lebron cracks under pressure many times and couldnt even play in a game cuz there was no AC.
skip is still hater no matter what show he's on but i must admit shannon debates him better than sas does. he knew how to get under sas skin and soon after all the yelling would start. shannon just lets him hate and then calmly points out the fact that he left out the fact that jordan took more shots and skippy has no comeback lol. priceless.
i swear everytime the talk about lebron vs someone shannon bodies skip
keep in mind lebron a pass first player 👀
"Oh, I passed an important record. No matter, I will just play it cool. Can't be seen pounding my chest over this one." ~ said no athlete ever Skip.
The noise Shannon makes at 2:57 😂😂😂
Facts wtf 😂😂😂😂
Y'all peep skips kicks he got the 1's
i really have to give it to skip, he’s a professional troll bruh 😂
Skip says "Michael Jeffery Jordan" every single got damn time!!
niccomakk right. As if he knows him or something. Saying his whole full name 😂😂😂
“Skip did you tell the jury MJ took 2000 more shots” lol 😂 rotfl
men, he passed mike 7 years ago, crazy
And years later he’s praising KD that was going for 50 but choked his FF against the bucks & clearly shows frustration after he missed & ended with 49 🤡🤣
Skip is crying...oh god this feels so good 😂
2:56 is one of the greatest natural sound effects I have heard, thanks Shannon!
Shannon tearing him up👌🏿
So skip can read minds.......skip can read lebron's brain cells
This is Shannon best take ever.
I'm starting to like this show more than first take, Stephen a smith is so fake, all of a sudden he turned into a lebron hater at least skip been a lebron since day 1 lol
deonta thomas W Stephen a is nothing but a puppet for the Espn bosses. He even works like lab rat
u r so rite about Stephen a but I think that the haters in the media is because LeBron doesn't not speak to them. lol
deonta thomas Yeah i dont know why SAS hates Bron now he changed up on us
deonta thomas espn made stephen a turn into a lebron hater for ratings
you right I noticed LeBron was hated on for a first half of the game he had 4 fouls he had to sit and still dominated in the 4 th quarter clutch shot after clutch shot and won the game with 34 points and and won , sas said he had a bad game lol first take is starting to be a joke
Skip is the only reason why I don't like San Antonio
BoaGaming I’m a Spurs fan and I don’t like Skip
Skip BASELESS
Bro the noise Shannon made at 2:56 had me screaming lmao
Why the Thumbnail look like Barkley eating Churros 🤣
Rowin Rose 😂😂😂😭💀
that was a funny segment 😂 skips worst loss to date, felt like it was in a court room being questioned 🙌 #SkipsRoad2Recovery
As an MJ fan but also as a LeBron fan, I love this
Did Skip just say he was objective about Lebron? Now that's funny.
Skip @ 2:09 - "Let's start with the three-point shot that broke the quote, unquote record."
So, it wasn't a real record? GTFOH Skip
LEBRON THE GOAT NUMBERS DONT LIE
i thought jordan was best attacker of the basketball we ever seen
Kevan Fields true