i would much rather manually set this once as opposed to having a strain gauge automatically set this for me. when operating scanner probes you set it once and never touch again
Wow, Awesome that you could print those orthodic supports for your dad! This is the kind of real world things that so many of us would like to do with out printers! Very Nice! I love that 10 mm thick bed. I hope somebody makes thicker beds for the newer printers like the Creality K2 and others. Although they are 5mm on the K2 it would be great if the aftermarket mad heavier replacements. Great review, It would be easy for them to add a chamber heater and some insulation and i noticed their cable chains are huge and drooping when such a small amount of wire is inside it. Seems they could use much smaller lighter cable chains on this machine and would lower their printhead weight.
Great review! I'd guess the main reason this printer is a bit slower than other non-idex printers is due to the mass of the two extruders increasing the Y-axis inertia. Adding a motor to level adjust the z-height between the two would make the mass problem worse. It is an odd oversight not to have a heated chamber.
Interesting 3D printer. Nice to see they adopted some ideas I’ve seen implemented on DIY tool changers like using a switch and camera to calibrate between tool heads. Not heated chamber is a bummer tho.
Wowsers, that's a nice toy. Well played Mingda. This is one of the few printers I've seen labeled as industrial, that actually feels industrial, I love it.
It seems like the main thing going for this is the robust industrial grade build quality. I really couldn’t justify that price tag unless it was more polished in features and print quality
$5,000 . There's no price listed on their site, and it is only mentioned once in the middle of the video. That basic information should be in the video description.
Great review! This seems like a weird mix of features. Awesome fast bed mesh that takes under a minute for a huge bed, but then manual Z offset. Super robust 200 pound metal frame, but only 3000mm/s^2 accelerations. 10mm thick build plate to keep a nice even temperature, but no heated chamber. Automatically X/Y calibration for the IDEX, but no Z calibration for them. Very strange. The fast bed mesh is awesome. Hopefully other printers will get something like that in the future as well. It seems to have worked very well, based on that PLA sheet at the end! I also really like that green/red light. That’s such a good idea. Do you keep it after the review or do you have to send this massive thing back somehow? Both options seem like a pain lol. Moving it around your garage vs packing it up and shipping it, neither option would be easy!
So I'm confused, it measures the z offset between the nozzles, but doesn't physically adjust the nozzles. Having worked with multiple head printers, you can't do copy or mirror when nozzles are not coplanar. There should be a way to physically adjust the nozzles to dial them in to be with 1 or 2 microns of each other. This is why z offset is wonky, it's trying to split the difference between the nozzles since one is over .1 off from the other. For industrial machine at that price, I'd expect the 2nd toolhead to have a micro stepper to physically adjust the height.
I like the camera scan for bed leveling, that was cool, FAST, and accurate. Idex is nice but only huge advantage is when using dual filament in a single model. I think I'd rather have two qidi 4pros instead. The manual z offset using paper is a no go. The lack of heated chamber and unable to reach the higher nozzle temps that even a $700 qidi 4pro can reach of 370c nozzle and the qidi is active heated chamber. $5000 is because it's built like a tank and has the sweet bed leveling, and it's idex, but that's still allot of money.
Great job as always. Really like the linear rails! Don't like the weight of the machine. And the price? Delivering to a residence...and moving it around after? I hope your UPS and FedEx guy likes you.😊
Mingda has the most awful “support” out there. I’ve reviewed their Magician machines and when they work, they do so well. Any issues and it’s largely a rebuild. Run, Luke, run
Yeah they ain’t great. I had an Ultimaker 2 at the office and a Printrbot Simple Metal at home. The Printrbot was far easier to use and I got bettter results. The U2 extrusion system (Boden) was also notoriously unreliable. IF you could get the extruder to work then the prints were decent but that was a big IF. Considering the price difference, it should have never been that bad 😂 Granted this is over 10 years ago but I rate that an X1C will still destroy whatever Ultimaker has to offer. And once they release their new flagship, the industrial market will need to rethink their products. I am pretty sure BL will be adding all the core industrial feature sets to their new machine for probably half the price.
Basically this is a normal Cartesian printer with the technology from the begging of last year with a little bit nicer enclosure. Absolutely not an industrial grade !
No no it’s painted white and has a light indicator for status on top. Obviously industrial and not just a metal body Voron/bambulabs copy with questionable cabling and kinematic choices
@@jasonvanhek4749 Split the model into parts and design it so they attach together. If it really had to be one monolithic piece I could also buy one of the many other large format printers on the market that cost way less then $5K.
This printer is laughable.. It's laughable for $5000😂 You're going to put all that engineering time into a $5000 "industrial grade"(?) Printer with.. No heated chamber? 😂 Sorry, hard pass for me.
Aurora Tech is best reviewer on RUclips. Very professional!
precisely. I've unfollowed everyone else. She's the only one who keeps the signal-to-noise ratio consistently high
K2 for the win
Industrial printer without heated chamber? Weird idea, from my perspective
Id much rather have a prusa xl 5h after seeing that surface quality :)
Interesting to see the "printer goes brr" message on the printing screen 😂
Sorry, you lost me when you showed z Leveling with a piece of paper!! Industrial Ugh !!!
what is this? we back in 2021??? lol
i would much rather manually set this once as opposed to having a strain gauge automatically set this for me. when operating scanner probes you set it once and never touch again
Always love your well organized reviews! That's a real nice first layer, I'm impressed by their camera method. 🙂👍
Wow, Awesome that you could print those orthodic supports for your dad! This is the kind of real world things that so many of us would like to do with out printers! Very Nice! I love that 10 mm thick bed. I hope somebody makes thicker beds for the newer printers like the Creality K2 and others. Although they are 5mm on the K2 it would be great if the aftermarket mad heavier replacements. Great review, It would be easy for them to add a chamber heater and some insulation and i noticed their cable chains are huge and drooping when such a small amount of wire is inside it. Seems they could use much smaller lighter cable chains on this machine and would lower their printhead weight.
Great review!
I'd guess the main reason this printer is a bit slower than other non-idex printers is due to the mass of the two extruders increasing the Y-axis inertia. Adding a motor to level adjust the z-height between the two would make the mass problem worse.
It is an odd oversight not to have a heated chamber.
What is support like and the availability of parts?
Interesting 3D printer. Nice to see they adopted some ideas I’ve seen implemented on DIY tool changers like using a switch and camera to calibrate between tool heads. Not heated chamber is a bummer tho.
Average print quality is not acceptable for a 5000$ printer.
Not a huge deal for engineering materials, but lack of a heated chamber is a huge deal breaker
For real the Qidi Q1 Pro is 369 and has it.
This is a printer for a previous era of printing.
Wowsers, that's a nice toy. Well played Mingda. This is one of the few printers I've seen labeled as industrial, that actually feels industrial, I love it.
Great review as always, and very good points to Mingda 🙂
Is that a cantilevered bed with only one ball screw?
22:15 Anyone knows what model is that? Can I get a link?
No heated chamber and auto z offset on a printer priced this high is insane
16:37 did the tpu end up being harder than the material usually used for insoles?
In my experience - from 95A TPU & from using such insoles - yes, it is much harder.
It seems like the main thing going for this is the robust industrial grade build quality.
I really couldn’t justify that price tag unless it was more polished in features and print quality
Whats the price?
5k USD plus shipping
$5,000 . There's no price listed on their site, and it is only mentioned once in the middle of the video. That basic information should be in the video description.
That X-Y camera is actually a genius idea to quickly skip having to do calibration tests. Needs to become the norm
It’s been around for 10 years
Is the machine more stable while printing with it being 200 pounds?
Printers are growing faster than Miss Sunshine
May I suggest the Rat Rig V Core 4 with dual head? Excellent review! Just what I wanted.
If this industrial printer then i am darth vader ...
Great review!
This seems like a weird mix of features.
Awesome fast bed mesh that takes under a minute for a huge bed, but then manual Z offset.
Super robust 200 pound metal frame, but only 3000mm/s^2 accelerations.
10mm thick build plate to keep a nice even temperature, but no heated chamber.
Automatically X/Y calibration for the IDEX, but no Z calibration for them.
Very strange.
The fast bed mesh is awesome. Hopefully other printers will get something like that in the future as well. It seems to have worked very well, based on that PLA sheet at the end! I also really like that green/red light. That’s such a good idea.
Do you keep it after the review or do you have to send this massive thing back somehow? Both options seem like a pain lol. Moving it around your garage vs packing it up and shipping it, neither option would be easy!
So I'm confused, it measures the z offset between the nozzles, but doesn't physically adjust the nozzles. Having worked with multiple head printers, you can't do copy or mirror when nozzles are not coplanar. There should be a way to physically adjust the nozzles to dial them in to be with 1 or 2 microns of each other. This is why z offset is wonky, it's trying to split the difference between the nozzles since one is over .1 off from the other. For industrial machine at that price, I'd expect the 2nd toolhead to have a micro stepper to physically adjust the height.
price ?
$5,000. On sale, lol.
It's Good price. User dont use this for prints lizard and benches lol
How Much ; dare I ask ? Missed it ; $5000 . Not any time soon for me.
@@lukaskantor2645 It is better than being $50,000+ like most industrial 3D printers are.
@@lukaskantor2645 0:53
I like the camera scan for bed leveling, that was cool, FAST, and accurate.
Idex is nice but only huge advantage is when using dual filament in a single model. I think I'd rather have two qidi 4pros instead.
The manual z offset using paper is a no go.
The lack of heated chamber and unable to reach the higher nozzle temps that even a $700 qidi 4pro can reach of 370c nozzle and the qidi is active heated chamber.
$5000 is because it's built like a tank and has the sweet bed leveling, and it's idex, but that's still allot of money.
I have new printer thanks to your channel. Quidi is my choice. Now I miss your voice :(
price
Great job as always. Really like the linear rails! Don't like the weight of the machine. And the price?
Delivering to a residence...and moving it around after? I hope your UPS and FedEx guy likes you.😊
With that heavy portal (2x extruders and step motors (!!!)) no surprise about 3000mm/s^2 accel...
The bed and linear rails appear to be quite dirty and rusted.
Mingda has the most awful “support” out there. I’ve reviewed their Magician machines and when they work, they do so well. Any issues and it’s largely a rebuild. Run, Luke, run
Can you do more industrial expensive printer (Makerbot and Ultimaker), we want to see how it compare to normal consumer printer.
badly 😅
ROFL, those two are irrelevant dinosaurs
Yeah they ain’t great. I had an Ultimaker 2 at the office and a Printrbot Simple Metal at home. The Printrbot was far easier to use and I got bettter results. The U2 extrusion system (Boden) was also notoriously unreliable. IF you could get the extruder to work then the prints were decent but that was a big IF. Considering the price difference, it should have never been that bad 😂
Granted this is over 10 years ago but I rate that an X1C will still destroy whatever Ultimaker has to offer. And once they release their new flagship, the industrial market will need to rethink their products. I am pretty sure BL will be adding all the core industrial feature sets to their new machine for probably half the price.
👍🏻👍🏻
Basically this is a normal Cartesian printer with the technology from the begging of last year with a little bit nicer enclosure. Absolutely not an industrial grade !
No no it’s painted white and has a light indicator for status on top. Obviously industrial and not just a metal body Voron/bambulabs copy with questionable cabling and kinematic choices
Cost the same than 2 printers
seems like a vcore 4 knockoff. Only smaller and twice the price
If only it came with a heated chamber, I think it would be a perfect printer for me… But it doesn't have one.
For $5K I could buy 8 Bambu P1S printers and generate 8 prints at the same time vs only 2, and get better print quality in less time.
what will you do if the job is over 350mm and has to be in one piece?
@@jasonvanhek4749 Split the model into parts and design it so they attach together. If it really had to be one monolithic piece I could also buy one of the many other large format printers on the market that cost way less then $5K.
5H Prusa XL with enclosure is cheaper than that P.O.S.
It's nice and all but too expensive. Needs to be a bit cheaper.
400 mm³ is super small😂 Edit your caption.
400mm cubed makes your print volume 64 000 000 mm³ actually.
(400mm)³
can i get one for free?pretty please 👉🌚👈
Overpriced heavy garbage, does anybody want this ?
A dream for hobby enthusiastics 😢
This printer is laughable.. It's laughable for $5000😂
You're going to put all that engineering time into a $5000 "industrial grade"(?) Printer with..
No heated chamber? 😂
Sorry, hard pass for me.
No heated chamber and auto z offset on a printer priced this high is insane