Reichsbürger coup: Conspirators planned armed units for 'arresting and executing' people | DW News
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- Germany's lower house of parliament, the Bundestag, held closed-door sessions on Monday to debate investigations into a coup plot by extremists linked to the far-right Reichsbürger movement and QAnon conspiracy theorists.
The revelations about the group's alleged plot to overthrow Germany's government have sparked widespread outrage, with a former member of parliament among those accused of taking part.
On Monday, three special committee sessions were held in the Bundestag behind closed doors.
The legal affairs committee and the interior affairs committee were holding meetings where Chancellor Olaf Scholz's government and federal prosecutors will deliver "reports and results" from the raids and provide further information about the operations.
In a third session, lawmakers posed questions to the parliamentary control committee, which is responsible for Germany's domestic and foreign intelligence services.
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Just don’t give that ringleader any writing material when he goes to jail…cause we all know how that will turn out 😮
Mein coup
And if the dude wants to take some art classes... let him!
He should get mandatory art school in Austria after his release 😆
@@canadiangemstones7636 Had to scroll down to find this !!
Canadians think alike !!
He wasn't accepted into medical school.
surprisingly wise words from a politician who want to do research before changing laws!
That's the norm in Germany, certainly in comparison to USA and UK. Not that there aren't more extremes, but the centre is very...boring...in a good way.
When patriots are called terrorists
From west Africa
🦅
@@criessmiles3620 The last time "patriots" run Germany 75 M people died.
@@wanderingtravellerAB99 Yep but centrism isn't what promote such proceedings , there are centrists in dysfunctional democracies that mindlessly churn out legislation .
@@wanderingtravellerAB99 Here in the UK, we'd be pleased if we could have some boring politicians - care to lend some?
I'm surprised how quickly German authorities are responding. Meanwhile, here in the U.S. plotters are playing golf and holding political office, even in Congress!
That's because we won't allow you communists to take over. Your day is coming, and the words of Thomas Jefferson will ring in your ears.
Amerikkka is a JOKE.
Lol, our own FBI concluded it was a riot, not an insurrection/coup! The 2020 BLM riots were FAR more destructive and deadly than Jan 6th!
That's because, in the US, there are a few pesky constitutional amendments standing in the way of authorities arresting people without any actual crime having taken place.
Election fraud is a serious crime.
“My spirit will rise from the grave and the world will know I was right”
- Uncle A
Rarely do Germans feel proud of their police, but this time we do! Thank you
Wait. What? Why would you not feel proud of your police? I’m American so maybe I don’t understand.
Rarely do Germans feel proud.
@@ttrestle Because the mass media is extremely left leaning in Germany. So the usual reports you find are about all the supposed *isms the police commits.
Furthermore during Covid-19 the police had to enforce the absurdly strict rules of the government, criminalizing many citizens.
Also anti-government manifestations were forbidden and disbanded whilst protests of the left against the usual *isms very quietly tolerated.
There are of course many more things like corruption and infiltration by clan members - especially in Berlin - the (sin) capital.
I’m very proud of our police. When you got a problem and see them around you can generally always ask for help and they will be nice. Need directions ? Oh good a blue uniform in the distance. I really enjoy how comfortable you can be around German police and that’s a fact we can be proud off.
@@ttrestleI don’t understand why you feel proud of the American police that is creating fear and kills people.
Well done Germany...stay vigilant!!!
Nobody with sense believe this garbage.
@justinoid4729 Heute noch keinen Clown zum Frühstück gehabt?
@@CaptCondor there's always one of those basement dwellers in the comment section just ignore them they really hate that.
Through my job, I met like-minded people: one boasted "jokingly" that his balloonist and tennis venture was one of the deadliest around.
"You only have to imagine how many people you can kill at the same time in a tennis hall filled with gas."
Another guy bought up former military bunkers from the withdrawing Americans: "They would also protect against a political storm..."
And the chicks felt their ovulation triggered by these guys.
We the German people do want Reichsbürger. The current German state does not represent us. The next attempt will not fail.
We have heard about a possible hundred more supporters. If that is all it is still only a small plot. However the intended executions are very disturbing and should be reflected in how these deluded plotters are dealt with.
The US with military bases all over Europe wouldn't have allowed this to happen.
Germany with its army not even being combat ready in most cases would've just rolled over.
(Not to mention Germany wants to buy US made weapons, ie the US probably even has an off switch on most of those so good luck using US made weapons against the US, if not that they US knows the weapons they made better than you)
Good thing that they've got them though. The far right in Europe has been on the rise for far too long.
How many people do you think are usually in the loop when a plot is being planned?
@@Fauxbourg 1% at a minimum right? 200 nutters aren’t bringing down the house
Remind me of the air france hijack and the executions. Chilling...
The "bier hall putsch" (1923) was also a small plot. Never underestimate Germans, in good or in bad.
These nutters got caught. Sounds like Germany's laws are just fine.
@@user-cv8xw8zn5u ok putin bot. If you were a German citizen you could partake in the democratic process and vote them out as would be your right. Otherwise STFU.
They have a lot of experience spotting a dangerous political situation thanks to choosing poor leaders that lead to the world wars
AH and his nutters were caught - it made no difference
False flag. More control for the current regeim. Anti democracy at its finest.
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Thank you for showing us how it's done.
DW always gives the full picture as a American I greatly value German journalism
But they haven't produced any evidence. Written or otherwise about any coup, plot or attack on parliament. You have noticed that? Bottom line, Deutsche Welle cannot be taken seriously.
Far different than the united corporation of america
🤣😂 USA media ?
As a German I'm sorry that your trash is even trashier than our trash.
@@gyanganga531 what media? CNN, MSNBC, Propagandist groomers
Protect democracy germans! Keep strong
When patriots are called terrorists
From west Africa
🦅
Yes democracy. Where millions pay the price for 100
@@criessmiles3620 Patriotism is the pride of the dumb.
@@criessmiles3620 take care of your own Rebels in your Country ,dont speak for me as a German
Just don’t lean to extreme left, BOTH are very dangerous!
The failed plot brought back memories of the failed attempt to overthrow the government by the brown shirts in 1923!
almost to the centennial mark too!
@@mfaizsyahmi im sure that isnt a coincidence
@@kevinhurley6919 I'm also sure that, as with the Brown Shirts, it will not be the end of this effort.
@@LesSharp yeah, thats the terrifying part. I can only hope that enough people have been taught the lessons of history to see whats happening when its happening to avert repeating the mistakes of our past.
We have a very large conservative fascist Brownshirt problem here in America right now. They also want to destroy our secular democratic constitution and believe in conspiracy theories. They tend to be the least educated demographics in our country-not sure if same in Germany.
What kind of arrogance does it take to just decide that you have the right to overrule your country's democracy?
They don't believe in democracy.
the truth... don't believe everything... it's a joke.. some old men are spinning something together... then such a drama is made
You're not talking about "democracy" in Germany I believe. Germany is an occupied country by the US ever since "unconditional surrender" back in 1945. "Fundamental Law" was imposed by the winners. No peace treaty has been signed. You do know that? There is no German "democracy" or "sovereignty" if the string pullers are on the other side of the pond. In D.C. You are kidding, aren't you? Besides, German puppet authorities have produced no written evidence about any plot or takeover. This is just a prextext to clamp down on patriotic German citizens who are discontent with the status quo.
Exactly one century later history is making a full circle in Germany. Don't let it happen again, stay strong!
We won't, the constitution is now, unlike in the Weimarer Republik, specifically tailored to not only allow but invite resistance.
@@Argosh Who drafted the constitution? I ask, was it like Japan's, heavily constructed to reflect American desire in the wake of the second world war?
@@danielmartin7838 no, it was drafted by the surviving members of the Democratic parties, legal scholars and public figures of renown.
The idea was to guarantee both to Germany but also the World that never again would Germany fall to fascism and become a danger to peace. It's a so called "wehrhafte Verfassung" a defendable constitution. Feel free to read into that topic. I feel the USA could benefit strongly from updating their constitution in kind.
@@Argosh Thank you for your time and the knowledge. Take care
@@danielmartin7838 to be blunt, as we tend to be in Germany, it's a point of pride. The Grundgesetz ("Basic Law" or "Fundamental Law") is a constitution like no other. It was forged by people who believed in democracy but who also had lived through the terror of the third Reich. The concepts enshrined in it are in my mind an unmatched almost ideal standard for a constitution. Someone gathered a large bunch of smart Germans and tasked them to make the best constitution possible.
They did.
That this can be a thing in 2022 is scary. We need to get a grip on extremism everywhere. We thought we've come so far from the bad days but it seems in truth we're only one bad incident away from a repeat.
Personally I blame "Social Media."
That's what happens when you muzzle those who reject rampant liberalism. They can arrest the plotters, but the resentment amongst the common folk is still there simmering below the surface waiting for their next leader.
Social media has accelerated and globalized, but revolutions have happened as long as people have organized into communities.
It's been made far worse after the Pandemic, even in my country (a first world nation) previously seen as extremely peaceful; unrest has grown as hate for our government has festered.
Now we have new political parties trying to reform our government, as well as a movement to 'separate' our nation - which resulted in the arrest of multiple government officials who attempted to sabotage the system resulting in millions of dollars worth of losse.
@@PG-wz7by And as long as they have been made to feel threatened by their own governments.
I blame the people. Social media just allows horrible people and ideas to flourish. The only antidote to ignorance is knowledge.
Reichsburger with cheese.
Justice was served.
Not to forget a pint of brown sauce.
@@lollorosso4675 exquisite choice sir 🤌
Germany = Reich burger
Switzerland = Swiss Cheese
British isles= Fish and chips
France = French fries
Benelux= Belgian waffles in a Dutch oven (plus some funny food item from Luxembourg)
Want some fries with that !??😁😁😁
@@margritpiepes8242 gimme Le Pen fries pls
🗽🇺🇸 😱 🇩🇪 🗣️Fight it, do not let this happen to your country‼️🇩🇪🇺🇸🇩🇪 Stand together 👫👭👬🧑🤝🧑 💞
Wind Of Change by the Scorpions. My most favorite hard rock music band. Long live democracy. Democracy wins.
Ahman 👏👏👏👏👏
The Bundestag is not "the lower house of Parliament". Germany isn't the UK or the US. The Bundestag and Bundesrat are independent government bodies and none is higher or lower than the other.
When they instigated this in Africa they never get shocked
I mean, most plots against governments and attempted coups have much more to do with those of wealth and rank feeling entitled to overturn whatever currently has the consent of the citizenship to rule than it does with firearms or access to legislative buildings. Maybe put some restrictions on wealth and rank, see how that goes?
well then the new people who legislate and enforce that limitation on wealth and rank become the successors.
seems to me we have also different cases in history, one of them in Germany, no?
Yeah. Because coups are only right wing. The vast majority of government plots that have been carried out were by communists, and they leveled their countries, or by right wing elements usually overreacting to a communist put in office which would still have leveled their country, as it always does.
That's not true at all. Many times the ones overthrowing were low ranking and no longer accepted suppression. And what is restricting rank supposed to mean? The supposed leader of the new government had no legal right anymore anyway
I do agree on the firearms though, such groups could still attempt to overthrow a government in a different way, taking away guns don't seem to solve this particular problem
Imagine that, actually arresting coup plotters instead of doing nothing like in America.
@Sanctus Paulus 1962 This is true…but only if you ignore all the evidence of plotting. Since they were only planning to overthrow the election results, and not the existing government, your theory is there can’t be a coup. With that logic, there can never be a coup that occurs during or before the ‘peaceful transfer of power’. Don’t you think your understanding might be a bit simplistic, or at least unable to understand what a coup is? Do you really want a dictator instead of battling it out and having elections, as hard as that is? You don’t respect any American values of democracy?
Germans: in shock with coup plot
Thai: first time ?
Myammar laughs in junta
.junta>democracy>junta again...🤣🤣🤣
People don't unalive when Thai coup happens at least. German civil wars have a very dark history, not just only the one that most people think of either.
Germany: No. Just a mild inconvenient
A coup? That's a thing we hadn't heard of in a long time... a long time.
Germany is not a normal country. When it's going crazy, it becomes a killing machine.
You can secure a building and keep it open to the public. Not that difficult.
Money and power are the ultimate corrupters of humanity
Airport like Security in the Bundestag would be an Option. Everyone still can get in nur you have to Pass increased safty checks
What
That is already the case for regular visitors.
the english word for nur is 'only', but grammatically it is in the right spot in that sentence.
USA here, we are dealing with something similar. Expect the politicians who enabled this.whole thing to slowly become exposed
This stuff is good for politicians so they can justify to the people to grant the government more power.
Why don't you arrest the ring leaders? Is your high nobility class protecting its own?
@@eljanrimsa5843 yes they are. some things never change
This video should be played in the usa congress repeatedly i hope.. on how action can be taken on scary events such as these 🙏🙏🙏
The US justice department is still fighting for the right to fully *investigate* the person the entire world watched attempt a coup 2 years ago.
Umm, the U.S. congress is doing just fine.
@@bayareaartist999 I'm sure he meant it as a warning to guard democracy against right-wing wackos. You know, like the ones that attacked Jan-6.
@@casper6014obviously this group had far more intent and were planning to use weapons.
@@bayareaartist999 that's why they had too flee when your highest government chamber was raided lol.
I wish our country was as quick to act as Germany I've been to Germany great country love the people. We in the United States could learn a lesson from this a third of our politicians are coup plotters they should be arrested also.
When you hold the power and sign Fed LEO paychecks, you don't need to hold a coup.
Do yourself a favor a ponder your comment.
Reichsbürger sounds like a fast food joint. Their grand plan most probably to go after Mr. Krab's secret recipe.
Bürger mean citizen in German and is not pronounced like burger in english
@@starstencahl8985 They could've pick a better phrase for international audiences lol
Hahaha the Chum bucket 🤮🤮
Bürger is equivalent to old English burgher
@@starstencahl8985What do you expect. Americans believe an Hamburger is a ham-sandwich and a Frankfurter is a sausage.
Scary stuff, hopefully for the world’s sake, my German brothers that believe in Democracy will prevail. I want to know if there was any foreign influence and money from Russia.
@Buffalo soldier
They will take the whole "nest" apart. It will be sortet 😉
Seems their way ahead of you
Doubt it, since these are the guys who support retaking the Kaliningrad Oblast from Russia (which was the northern part of the German province of East Prussia prior to WWII).
What German "democracy"? Germany is an occupied land by the American army and string pullers. "Fundamental Law" was imposed on Germans. And there hasn't been a peace treaty signed between US and Germany. Get serious.
@Luis Gonzaga Osollo lol, that's what happens when you start two world wars
Crazy to see the difference in Germany's response to right wing extremism vs the U.S. People who actually attempted a coup and talk openly of their plans to try harder next time are running for office, some are already elected officials, and they face zero consequences.
You mean the far-left coup attempt on the 29th of May 2020?
Well the coup plotters were successful in stealing the election and are now running the US government so it would make sense they wouldn’t face any consequences.
@@AjninHaru that's why all the trump appointed judges threw out the election fraud cases and said there was no evidence? because the trump appointed judges and red state courts were trying to help the democrats steal an election? you gotta be reeeeeeeeally special if you actually believe that.
@@AjninHaru Yes you're right, and as a result, Joe Biden is somehow POTUS.
There was no attempted coup, it was a protest like all the others. You will know when it's a coup. We will arrive well-armed.
I guess the coup attempters are not happy about the positive and great progress of their country. They are also not happy about how much the people of the world admire Germany for its contribution to various fields of science like automobile engineering, IT and etc.
Funny, I didn't know you knew everyone in the world and could speak on their behalf. Get real.
You're not talking about "democracy" in Germany I believe. Germany is an occupied country by the US ever since "unconditional surrender" back in 1945. "Fundamental Law" was imposed by the winners. No peace treaty has been signed. You do know that? There is no German "democracy" or "sovereignty" if the string pullers are on the other side of the pond. In D.C. If I were a German citizen I also would not feel happy or content with German puppet authorities. Germany is ailing because of "sanctions" government was ordered from Washington to impose on Russia. You need to real more about the real situation going on in Germany and the status quo.
@@luisgonzagaosollo7970 Ok let's have a discussion about this, shall we? let's suppose you are right that Germany is not free yet,((No country in the world is totally free)) and let's suppose you have the power in Germany, now tell me what would you have done for your country, for your people? what kind of relations would you have preferred with the rest of the world? what kind of rules would you have imposed in your country and with other countries? would you have done the same that your government has done or would have done something different that could be more beneficial for your country? tell me please, I am curious about your answer.
@@removedbyutube Trust me I know much about the people of the world and I also know much about you too.
@@If_u_censor_comment_I_unsub I'm not a German citizen and not fully aware of all the conditions they live under in Germany. But after reading from their newspapers and magazines, there is much discontent from on behalf of the citizen due to compliance with any if not all guidelines suggested (or imposed) by the Europena Commission. Example: Too much acceptance of any and most asylum petitioners from anywhere, especially from Africa, and recently from Ukraine. This has imposed a burden on all German tax-payers. Then, if NATO and the US order Germany to impose sanctions on Russia, well, no discussion about that. So now their industry is ailing, and in fact leaving Germany. So, in my opinion, if you are not free and sovereign, as a government you can't respond to the needs of your people. You mostly respond to the dictactes of unelected officials from your neighbors and from overseas. And I could go on and on regarding Germany. So this kind of places things in perspective.
Imagine if they would've succeeded!!! SCARY!!!!
Why would it be scary? Maybe they would fix a lot of problems.
@@vknight7497 In an autocracy, THEY define "the problems".
It's always *that* side. Lol. What a bunch of goons.
Imminent means "will happen soon" not ‘likely to succeed,’ as the remote reporter said.
This plot might inspire someone to open a restaurant called Reich's Bürgers
Homer: Mmmmm.... Reich's Burgers.... *stomach growl*
Riceburger would be the offspring of a Rice A Roni/ Burger King marriage! 🤷♀️
Do the bürgers come on buns from the Bundestag?
With Royal Bürger Henry 13.
Unbelievable
Untwerklich
"100 weapons"? That's a joke!
Seeing this only makes me believe that ultimately humanity will wipe itself out because evil like this keeps creeping up. The Enlightenment is pulled apart slowly with every plot like this, every Jan. 6th event, each dictatorship and monarchy allowed to persist.
If you want a dictator, look at that pos Trudeau in canada
29th May 2020
Mentions Jan. 6 event. What about all the BLM riots and lootings and murders - spurred on by the democrats, that was fine but a protest and walk-in after captiol hill was literally OPENED to let them in, was the epitome of evil.
Delusional.
There’s a monarch in the UK, CANADA, AUS, NZ. Who’s up for taking out Charles?
@@drjamesallen6012 It's a constitutional monarchy that's not worth wasting our time worrying about. The real threat to humanity is authoritarianism.
With "more than 100 letters of confidentiality" discovered and plans to "form more than 280 Homeland Security units", this means that there are/were AT LEAST... 281*5(unit)=1405 SYMPATHIZERS alongside the more than 100 individual letters AND the initial suspects arrested. Now, add to that the communication and distribution management that would be necessary to coordinate this and you have a MAJOR issue within the German govt.
Or a suppressed and aggravated right
A wild coup suddenly appears, Reich when no one was expecting it
Reich means conquest. That's ones happening in the east this time around this seems like just a bunch of sped cases who either didn't understand what it took to take a country or didn't actually plan it through
😂👍
Insurrection: it's what's for dinner! - Seriously, glad you caught them. 👍👍 If this was the U.S., they'd still be running for office!
I smell SVR
100 weapons? Any average Texan militia member will have that on hand.
Who remembers the last German Government who systematically disarmed German citizens?
This is a very slippery slope
Not to put too fine a point on things, but imminent means "about to happen." It does not speak to success or failure, but only to the commencement of an activity.
I love these politically motivated distractions - quick look the other way, ignore the real issues.
Never again! Thanks.
A storm in a tea cup 😂
Really scary.
wouldnt be surprised if there was russian hands behind the courtain. the timing is definitely sus
😂
The Russians are funding right wing parties here in Germany. And they don't do it because they like Germany so much.
When it comes to people like this, we’ve learned the unfortunate truth-we cannot show any mercy whatsoever.
Hey look America, a functioning democracy!
Rather than who, the question should be why.
Media just say to eliminate democracy as usual put the real reason on dark.
Let’s hear from those arrested before rushing to judgement. A government who feels threatened and a supportive media can be very biased and over reactive. Seeing it here in the US.
Wow! What a time to be alive.
I am sometimes very grateful that bulldozing one's way towards the objective is not a very German way to go about things.
Historically speaking "bulldozing" is a very German way of getting to the point.
@@timtheskeptic1147, more like "tanking"...
@@wolfgangwalk337 in the broader sense it's all brute force.
not anymore at least...
Why not?
How you gonna have a coup with 100 pistols? This sounds dumb.
Why are we calling this a “coup” and not a “Putsch”?
I’m genuinely curious.
It’s a great German word for EXACTLY what this situation is.
Exactly 💯
maybe because it’s an english speaking broadcaster? just maybe…
@@djamilawilschke7259 It was know as the Beerhall Putsch of 1923? Not Beerhall Coup of 1923. Putsch is in the English Vernacular like Blitz, Zeitgeist, Stumm & Schande Freude...
@@MTG776 common english uses the term “coup” - putsch would not be understood by an english speaking audience. also it is not a Putsch it would have to be a Putschversuch, again which no-one would understand who doesn’t speak german.
@@MTG776 simplest way to verify: “googletransate” Putsch = Coup
This sounds like a very bad movie script. Did they really think they could get away with this coup?
Historically, quite a number have. Just not in more developed places, development and education is the key against such things.
Their chance of success was 0%. But they are fanatic conspiracy believers who absolutely hate modern liberal society and everything it stands for. Reality would not have stopped from from trying to overthrow the government and possibly kill many people in the process.
In a vigilant, well-run place like Germany, it takes an uncommonly high degree of competence to develop plots like this without being detected and dealt with.
Fortunately, the type of person likely to be of a mindset like this is unlikely to be "the sharpest knife in the drawer", shall we say...
If only we could have confidence that the US was a similarly vigilant and well-run country...
das hätten sie nicht geschafft 🤣 so eine olle rentner bande doch nicht
@@zelenskyy-the-blackmailerh5920 Sure so says the guy that supports a sad clown that brandishes nuke threats every time his failed army takes a hit .
Germany handles coups better than USA T__T
What is the size/shape of the coup leader's mustache? Would he look good in a Hugo Boss inspired uniform?
The question is not how many do want the regime, but how few not want to change it)))))))))
Well done Germany. Proactive defense of democracy!
As an American who saw January 6th unfold, it still frightens me how close a democracy can come tumbling down.
You've been misled by a false narrative.
They are a super small minority of just a couple ones. I dont think its an essential threat for German democracy.
No one had any guns on Nov 6th except for the guards. There's a difference between protestors and a coup
Please don't compare an out of control riot to a planned coup. I get that your US centric thinking makes you think it's all about you and that your problems compare to everyone else, but come on, this isn't the same thing and to imply it is down plays the severity of what almost happened.
Super cringe if you think that was actually a coup. They literally went in unarmed and the only person harmed was a Jan 6th protester.
Last thing we need is history repeating itself AGAIN
jesus its like we are living through the last century
You can thank globalism for that
I hope we haven't entered a time loop
@@Mr.Isquierdo capitalism
@@elijahlees8655 capitalism can be small scale and minimal parts of society. Globalism is much worse. We don't need a one world order. Isolationism is the other end of the spectrum, but goddam do I not want every government and business depending on the world's economy and resources.
@@Mr.Isquierdo socialism can be on a small scale and minimal as well. Complete isolationism leads to failure, look at North Korea.
That is so funny. 100 guns? There are more than that in every neighborhood in the US
Interesting that the journalism here is focusing on "what comes next" in terms of direct security measures, rather than focusing on the more important question, which is about long-term and widespread efforts to disseminate an education for deradicalising certain social groups and broadly educating the German public on how to defend democracy in their communities
Or how about a little soul searching and finding out why you have a significant number of citizens actually attempting something like this... Because get this, if you don't find the root cause, then you'll have the exact same issue again, eventually. Because I don't see Switzerland, Denmark or the Netherlands have that issue, if you know what I mean.
I am sure that Northern Korea and the Iran can help with providing models how surveillance can be increased and how potential oppositional groups can be dealt with.
@@terriblepainter7675 My point is that Germany actually seems to be doing fine in terms of their security measures - they did carry out all these arrests successfully after all (and without reaching the levels of North Korea or Iran). But that type of 'force'/surveillance defence of democracy shows that the social issues are already failing to be handled at the root cause, and that social level, before any such forcefulness is needed, is the issue I am trying to highlight here.
@@mysterioanonymous3206 Exactly. The more mature and sensible reaction to this ought to be for Germany to ask themself why hundreds of people were driven to such desperation they eventually colluded to overthrow the government. This wasn't the first such plan either, in the last 4 or 5 years multiple cells who were planning to overthrow the government had been arrested, including in the KSK (Germany's special forces), and also one or even several cells in various elite units of the German police.
Good job Germany! I hope my neighbours to my south are taking notes as their coup attempt is dragging on into 3 years, with no arrests of the leaders in sight. The fact that Americans just returned many of those involved back into government posts. The fact that they can continue to be on social media and TV spewing their hatred and willingness to terminate the constitution that they hold so dear, is crazy.
I guess you are Canadian !!
People who believe the USA presidential election was a fair democratic process are very foolish
You know what you just said....
"Sieg hiel"
You are the one out of touch with reality.
A mob and a coup are very different things.
Also, if you watched this story, it's all left wing party members making accusations about right wing opposition, I see no evidence anywhere. Just because arrests are made doesnt mean it isnt political.
We are at war I suppose. A civil one is brewing bc of people like you. Calling for the heads of no one. Assuming you know what justice is bc you've watched MSNBC.
Let me make it clear, I'm not condoning any mov violence, not is America the place for a coup to be necessary. But you, I'm glad youve identified yourself as my enemy. Because moving forward there will be only Patriots and villains, and I prefer freedom to any form of tyranny, left or right wing.
Now do the world a favor, learn to think for yourself or stfu
@@fayseldifficile5618 You mean far north eastern China.
It all started with people from the previous administration. If they got away with it so will others.
They should all be locked up and the keys should be thrown away.
I agree, what Angela has done to Germany deserves jail time.
I disagree. They should be freed, armed , and empowered.
Just take away all their money.
How big is “much bigger than initially thought”??? Come with specific numbers…
If the leader gets a short jail sentence then pens a book look out.
already happened: on 2019 similar group “Nordkreuz” (would not be surprised if they turn out to be linked or at least well connected) -> planned for DayX, ring leader belonged to special police forces, members were from military and elite military, heavily armed, bodybags lists of “enemies etc - only the ring leader was investigated and got 21months probation! could indicate how deep their connections went…
never let a crisis go to waste.
Love how "wide range of weapons" included blank and pellet guns lol so adorable
Na, auch ein AfD Jünger ? Waren ja nur alte und Halbstarke??
My former younger Braunschweig-Waggumer neighbor was / is probably also in such a military militia / homeland security group (0:47).
When I asked him one day why he loaded so many olive drab paraphernalia into his vehicle every weekend, he replied evasively, "Fishing and camping."
Through my job, I met like-minded people: one boasted "jokingly" that his balloonist and tennis venture was one of the deadliest around.
"You only have to imagine how many people you can kill at the same time in a tennis hall filled with gas."
Another guy bought up former military bunkers from the withdrawing Americans: "They would also protect against a political storm..."
And the chicks felt their ovulation triggered by these guys.
Wow that is scary.
@@wordzmyth I would say that this is primarily cowardly on the part of someone who does not even dare to speak plainly about what he actually wants.
Best turn him over to the gestapo there comrade, for having a pile of fatigues.
@@baronsamedi7304 😂
I never thought the day would come that I’d praise the German police, but here we are: good job!!!
I praise the German police.
About 100 guns and some individuals with no influence over the army , security forces or the media. Kind of a yawner.
Sounds like a Steve Bannon move
Tightening gun laws seems rather the wrong question. Most likely they were illegally acquired guns, which continues to be easy to get and surprisingly cheap. (no, I don't have any :p)
They are looking at al aspects and no doubt the acquisition of illegal weapons and the penalties for their procurement will be a high priority.
I dont know how Germans can watch a full scale coup attempt and think civilians need less guns. "Never Again" and stopping coups seems completely in the hands the police? That doesnt seem right
Really? It's not that easy.
I would actually expect at least some of those weapons to have been legally acquired. Depending on where you live and who you are, getting a firearms permit is not that hard. Expensive, certainly, but not difficult.
Now, if we're talking about *military-grade* weapons, like selective-fire rifles and machineguns . . . those are impossible to acquire legally (unless you are a gunmaker selling to approved customers, like HK or Haenel), and their possession already carries rather significant penalties.
@@jochentram9301 potentially yes, the majority however (due to the sheer amount of weapons) is likely taken illegally and I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out they come from police or military storage as in the 2019 Plot (Nordkreuz) - too many similarities that it would be surprising if they had not just as much ties as they had back then…to this day it is unclear how those tens of thousands military ammunitions could be taken and I doubt much has changed in their policies until today…i could be wrong
I think its known that those groups operated since a long time. It was communicated very openly.
You think wrong.
And you're mixing up operating and existing. We knew they exist, we didn't know they planned a coup.
Rote Armee Fraktion did the same...
But this is just as creepy
NO. They never tried to take over, which doesn't make it any better.
@@zelenskyy-the-blackmailerh5920 Why don´t you get yourself a hard one by watching once more your favourite video of bare-chested Vlad & Shoigu, holding hands while roaming the endless spaces of Brokeback Siberia? Or, you know, the other one of the gay pride parade in Moskow on May 9th?
lies lies lies.
This should not have happened in Germany but instead in China
I thought 3,000 police to arrest 25 people ( 120 officers per arrested person ) seemed a bit over cooked. There had to be far more to this.
Well its not just a matter of physical arresting them. There are searches and the investigation will continue.
And since this is a genuine plot there is probably atleast 1 guy in every major police station given names,leads and paid hours to investigate if they have anything germane(pun not intended) to the case in their area.
And starting interviews with other suspects which they couldnt do before the case got public.
Not to mention there are probably investigators working with foreign law agencies, especially IF they suspect gun running.
So yeah its very likely there are more suspects out there to catch.
Yeah, I guess in a case like this, they even need investigators investigating investigators, investigating investigators.
@@JoeyBlogs007 Don't forget Inspector Rex!
Germans are wonderful and amazing people. Do not let a few radical clowns ruin the party...
do you actualy think people like this would have been able to do things like this whit out help from someone in the goverment
@@zelenskyy-the-blackmailerh5920 get out
Yes probably there are connections to the far right AFD party. They are also connected to Putin, so not a big surprise.
@@bennymuller3379 nope no surprise there, the former MP judge she was in on the plot.
Yes.
@@JoaoSoares-rs6ecshe never was part of any government.
This is a very effective way to remove the focus from inflation and the energy crisis
You believe this is a false flag operation?
@@stevenscott7427 I do not believe it is. However, it remains a possibility
Since they didn't believe in the legitimacy of the government those jail bars should help.
Because nothing says legitimacy like the boot.
“Tightening gun laws” I’m not some mere “political consequence”. Politicians have lost the plot it seems. Wanting to punish all the wrong people for all the wrong things damn near all the time and being spineless the rest of the time.
They would have needed a lot of ammo.
This is really disturbing.
Pity we can’t do this here in the Disunited States of America.
The AfD needs to be under tighter scrutiny and closely watched
It needs to become illegal and its assets confiscated. High time - and we do have the tools.
@erik bengt how compelling. Please face the wall now, fascist
AfD lost its drive years ago, they are only loosing members since 2017. They are rly not that big of a problem.
Were they behind this? Honest question, I'm not familiar with German politics.
@@stevens1041, several of their members and even one former member of parliament were part of it.
2022 is really a *year*
A far cry from the three ring circus that passes for justice in the US.
"Open house" for lobbyists or whom?
Life in prison for all. There needs to be a clear message
Perhaps, a public trial first before sentencing
They are true German heroes!
So should Germany defend democracy because it is good or should they defend democracy because it's deemed good???
Well done Germany, keep your country safe from those who want to destroy it.