Whether or not NoSSD was ever blocked would probably not change the fact that the plot format needs to change to prevent future rental grinding attacks.
i have 25 drives from evergreen. i was thinking about replotting since compression but i am afraid of messing up a machine that has been working flawlessly
Banning would really create a potential slipper slope condition. I would argue that compression alone isn't harming the network. I would argue that if anything it keeps people talking about Chia, it keeps development going, keeps people replotting for the compression. I don't see a harm in it, and this is coming from someone with all OG NFT plots. I can't compress due to 1. just not wanting to go through it all over again with 150 Tb of plots and 2. My harvester is a lowly Dell super slim form factor machine that has a weak i3 cpu and no ability to add a GPU. My main desktop rocking a 7950x and 4090 could likely crank out new plots pretty quickly, but there's already going to be a hard fork in the future, we just don't know how long until it forks and EVERYONE has to replot to the new "compression resistant" plots. I also refuse to buy any more hardware, and in my case I'd have to get a different machine for the harvester at least for lower CPU compression plots. For higher compression I don't just have a GPU laying around, those were sold when Eth went PoS.
Am I correct that evergreen miner does not support compressed plotting in any form? The raspberry pi or whatever they use for the controller is not adequate? They are already obsolete, shuck drives to regular enclosures
There are 3 potential hard forks in discussion. 1) reducing plot filter every 3 years, this one looks like it's going to happen given node version adoption 2) new plot format -- this one hasn't even been drafted yet, just discussed as a high level. even if accepted, it would not take effect for years. Evergreen devices are valid for farming for until then. 3) ban NoSSD - the one proposed in this video that has been vehemently rejected by the community (and also isn't technically possible).
@@poorinvestor I think Chia missed the boat a while back. It's supposed to be a low cost/low energy block chain, but you could a year ago it was turning into an arms race of people bldg 4 GPU plotters and filling garages with server racks of de6600 with double digit PiB hard drives. I've been in a year now and don't see where xch is going. It's nice the price recovered from the lows. I'm still stacking but unless we see a plus $100 xch this one is probably going to be a miss. I just don't see what xch is doing that is going to drive the price x2 or x4 or more. But it's the BULLrun so there are no rules.
@@TheMiningCabinet You said price recovered but for farmers who still continue to farm, the price isn't better at all... in fact it's worse than before: 2XCH per block at $25/XCH is higher than 1XCH per block at $40/XCH Of course, that's from a farmer's perspective. From an investor's perspective the price did indeed recover a little bit.
Funny how at the end of the day crypto is constantly held back by companies incentives, the "Evergeen" drama is the perfect proof of the true danger of specialized hardware not only for projects but more importantly consumers: "E-WASTE" 🤡... Have a great week ahead my brother ❤
In the future people will look back at Poor Investor and realize he was the GOAT all a long. Thx for the videos!!
Whether or not NoSSD was ever blocked would probably not change the fact that the plot format needs to change to prevent future rental grinding attacks.
i have 25 drives from evergreen. i was thinking about replotting since compression but i am afraid of messing up a machine that has been working flawlessly
welcome to NOSSD your going to like it, if you need any help let us know, i tested and fixed PC setup bugs
Banning would really create a potential slipper slope condition. I would argue that compression alone isn't harming the network. I would argue that if anything it keeps people talking about Chia, it keeps development going, keeps people replotting for the compression. I don't see a harm in it, and this is coming from someone with all OG NFT plots. I can't compress due to 1. just not wanting to go through it all over again with 150 Tb of plots and 2. My harvester is a lowly Dell super slim form factor machine that has a weak i3 cpu and no ability to add a GPU. My main desktop rocking a 7950x and 4090 could likely crank out new plots pretty quickly, but there's already going to be a hard fork in the future, we just don't know how long until it forks and EVERYONE has to replot to the new "compression resistant" plots. I also refuse to buy any more hardware, and in my case I'd have to get a different machine for the harvester at least for lower CPU compression plots. For higher compression I don't just have a GPU laying around, those were sold when Eth went PoS.
im gald i dont mine chia anymore lol nice vid ....
Am I correct that evergreen miner does not support compressed plotting in any form? The raspberry pi or whatever they use for the controller is not adequate? They are already obsolete, shuck drives to regular enclosures
Drives will need to be sent back to load it with compression plots. But only the ones a rpi can handle. Since higher ones require gpu power
@@poorinvestor thanks! Here's hoping my original gangsta non NFT plots are still relevant for a few more years!
Maybe if Evergreen lööse they should start planning the ASIC Chia miner like Kaspa Ice River.
The K32 plots were going to be depreciated at some point. What are the Evergreen plots? K32, or something higher?
Well k32 was suppose to last a lot longer than 3 yrs
Wait a minute. I thought the hard fork was just going to change the filter and make it harder ( more compute on the full node by x2)?
There are 3 potential hard forks in discussion.
1) reducing plot filter every 3 years, this one looks like it's going to happen given node version adoption
2) new plot format -- this one hasn't even been drafted yet, just discussed as a high level. even if accepted, it would not take effect for years. Evergreen devices are valid for farming for until then.
3) ban NoSSD - the one proposed in this video that has been vehemently rejected by the community (and also isn't technically possible).
Chia is looking more and more like a soap opera, thats why i recently jumped the wagon after 3 hard years of plotting and farming.
unpopular opinion but evergreen should have used the jetson nano instead. That Gpu would be coming in very handy right now with sme tweaking of course
The question is what's the purpose of banning nossd
lol supposedly they are defying the whole existence of chia
@@poorinvestor I think Chia missed the boat a while back. It's supposed to be a low cost/low energy block chain, but you could a year ago it was turning into an arms race of people bldg 4 GPU plotters and filling garages with server racks of de6600 with double digit PiB hard drives. I've been in a year now and don't see where xch is going. It's nice the price recovered from the lows. I'm still stacking but unless we see a plus $100 xch this one is probably going to be a miss. I just don't see what xch is doing that is going to drive the price x2 or x4 or more. But it's the BULLrun so there are no rules.
@@poorinvestor No worse than Gigahorse or DrPlotter, though a little worse than CNI themselves.
@@TheMiningCabinet
You said price recovered but for farmers who still continue to farm, the price isn't better at all... in fact it's worse than before:
2XCH per block at $25/XCH
is higher than
1XCH per block at $40/XCH
Of course, that's from a farmer's perspective. From an investor's perspective the price did indeed recover a little bit.
@@MeowO_O True, but $40 per 1xch block is a lot better than $25. I'm just wondering if XCH has anything for the bullrun.
Funny how at the end of the day crypto is constantly held back by companies incentives, the "Evergeen" drama is the perfect proof of the true danger of specialized hardware not only for projects but more importantly consumers: "E-WASTE" 🤡...
Have a great week ahead my brother ❤
Vosk and all these other shills don't care one bit, they made their money shilling evergreen and are long gone.
Are you ready to hit that format button yet? LOL
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