Really great Informative video, my life was in tatters before stressing about how to fix my alloys. This earnest, well educated, well spoken man has pulled me out the pit of despair and into the light of alloy fix Romford.
So powder coat all the way....I already knew this....great vid It looks like you guys are very good and love what you do...when i need need some wheels done i will use you
Very nicely done video. I get your point that powder is more durable but not indestructible. I am on the market for a good powder coat place in my local area
Thanks for the explanation, basically what you’re saying is that powder coating is tougher, BUT if someone brushes acid on my wheels I need a refurb regardless, if someone blow torches my wheels I need a refurb (and tyres 😂) regardless, if someone knives my wheels I need a refurb regardless and if I kerb the wheels I need a refurb regardless. I’m not against powder coating and have done it many times but I would have focused more on the longevity and devised an accurate test that shows no damage to the powder coated wheel but ultimately they are soft metal and regardless of the finish, if you touch a kerb they’re done.
Loved the video great idea in testing the paint performance difference of wet v powder, just shows how alloy wheel chemical cleaners will attack wet painted alloys very easily compared to powder coating, Julian @ Powder FX.
Very good explanation. When the powder coated rim becomes scratched/curbed can it be repaired/painted (smart repair)? If so what type of paint will stick to it?
Great video man. I am about to get mines powder coated next week regardless of the benefits I knew before this video. Now I am more than happy to get it done and can't wait. Thanks again for this video 👍
Ok, I think that this proves that powder coating is not significantly better than painting them, because regardless of the powder coating they were still damaged and would need to be repaired not unlike painted wheels. Sure the powder coating is slightly more resistant but they still got damages, so either way you have to be careful not to scratch your wheels and if you do you would need them repaired. And the odds of you getting acid or an open flame on the wheels is pretty low honestly, and you would still need them repaired if they were powder coated...
That exactly my thoughts. No denying that powder coating is more durable but lets be honest. No matter how small the damage is..we would still get it repaired. Most car guys wouldn't be happy with some damaged wheels.
You're both wrong. If you think about the applications in real life. With the painted wheels you've literally got 1 life, once they're scratched, it sticks out like a sore thumb and you're through to metal, it's softer so the gash is deeper. With powder coated wheels, they're far harder to scratch through to metal so if you did the exact same damage, in real life, your probably not going to see metal. Not to mention if you got your tyres changed, they're going to get scratches if they're regular paint. I've got loads of experience with both.
I don't know if paint stripper is an acid you will see in the real world sometimes like battery acid would be a more realistic thing because if you get paint stripper on your wheels it's probably all over your painted care too unless you have a DeLorean and the same for the fire if you wheels are in a fire you have bigger concerns
I expected the powder coat to win but as soon as either powder coat or paint is damaged then it’s damaged and needs repaired. It’s a lot more involved to repair the power coating as it is to repair the paint I’m assuming of course. But as it’s easier to get someone to repaint the damaged wheel is it cost effective.
If you think about the applications in real life. With the painted wheels you've literally got 1 life, once they're scratched, it sticks out like a sore thumb and you're through to metal, it's softer so the gash is deeper. With powder coated wheels, they're far harder to scratch through to metal so if you did the exact same damage, in real life, your probably not going to see metal. Not to mention if you got your tyres changed, they're going to get scratches if they're regular paint. I've got loads of experience with both.
Unless powders have come along way ok the past 10 years it doesn’t hold up to the sun well. I had my hitch powder coated by a reputable company and it’s very dull and it only took about 3-4 years before that happened.
We did this a long time ago. But I am pretty sure we did use 2k. The man at the local paint shop said it was the best stuff he had. If we do the experiments again. I will try get 2k urathane
The thicker the coating the more likely it is to chip when a rock hits it. Also 6-12 months for a painted wheel finish? The fuck are you painting it with? Lol
To any onenhere in the philippines who want to get a powdercoating businesses we have a complete item small or big oven and hi-colo gun and sandblasting.....
Also, the paint is solvent-based. And the powder coat is polyethylene-based. Polyethylene can contain solvent as well as acids. Your tests are inconclusive because you’re not testing properly. Tried touching that powder coat with a bunch of heat and it will boil and burn right off. Just take the paint. But you are not testing properly solvent-based and polyethylene would be heat best to break it down.
Pointless. First of all had you left them long enough to fully cure? Secondly, this test is basically a clear coat test, nothing more and nothing less, the base coat is irrelevant here. I have expensive clear coats for alloy motorcycle tanks that would mug any of these finishes in every test you done. My last point is that you showed the material thickness as if 0.3mm was the standard for spray painting? You could easily build that up with even flowcoats so I'm not sure what you were trying to show or prove by that. I could have spanked both of these in every test you done with only an acid etch prime, then a 2pack single stage boat epoxy in a simmilar black. Been doing this 4 decades now and do mostly custom freehand on the lorries and boats these days. I'll be by far the most experienced person on here.
Thanks for your comment. Not suggesting we have more experience or knowledge than you. But it’s an industry wide fact that powder coating is a stronger coating than simply painting. That’s why all alloys come powder coated from the manufactures. But if you are interested and it’s feasible for you. More than happy to invite you down. You coat a wheel how you think we should of, using products of your choice and your expert hand. And we will coat the product how we know best and put them up to the same experiments (or tweak them if you prefer) and hopefully we might all learn something and have some fun doing it. Get in touch if you interested in something like this. Look forward to hearing from you. Umar (the guy in the video).
Really great Informative video, my life was in tatters before stressing about how to fix my alloys. This earnest, well educated, well spoken man has pulled me out the pit of despair and into the light of alloy fix Romford.
Had to be Lou to write something like that. But thanks bro💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽.
This video has given me a great understanding of how powder coating is alot better than spray painting.
Thanks Guys Kepp it up!(Love the bloopers)🔥🔥
These guys are absolutely smashing, did an amazing job on my BMW, must say incredibly in-depth video as to the process.
Well done guys!!
Exactly what I was looking for. Extremely happy with this video; proper quality content! Thanks a lot for doing these tests!
Great personal experience with Alloy Fix. Excellent quality and highly recommend these guys!
love how you compared the 2 types of spray. Clearly powder coated is better.
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Until you are trying to match factory paint colors then good luck.
@@v4lhulme u obw havent heard of prismatic powders
Watched for the first time today. Superb insight.
Great video Alloy Fix!
Love this video..i was considering whether to use powder coat or spray paint on my rims..now its definitely powder coat!
Interesting, didn't realise so much is involved.
So powder coat all the way....I already knew this....great vid
It looks like you guys are very good and love what you do...when i need need some wheels done i will use you
Very nicely done video. I get your point that powder is more durable but not indestructible. I am on the market for a good powder coat place in my local area
good job, i love it. how much it will cost me a set of 4/17" inside and out, sand and powder coat?
Thanks for the explanation, basically what you’re saying is that powder coating is tougher, BUT if someone brushes acid on my wheels I need a refurb regardless, if someone blow torches my wheels I need a refurb (and tyres 😂) regardless, if someone knives my wheels I need a refurb regardless and if I kerb the wheels I need a refurb regardless.
I’m not against powder coating and have done it many times but I would have focused more on the longevity and devised an accurate test that shows no damage to the powder coated wheel but ultimately they are soft metal and regardless of the finish, if you touch a kerb they’re done.
Loved the video great idea in testing the paint performance difference of wet v powder, just shows how alloy wheel chemical cleaners will attack wet painted alloys very easily compared to powder coating, Julian @ Powder FX.
Very good explanation. When the powder coated rim becomes scratched/curbed can it be repaired/painted (smart repair)? If so what type of paint will stick to it?
Brilliant comparison. Really sells the benefits of powder coating. Cheers
Great video man. I am about to get mines powder coated next week regardless of the benefits I knew before this video. Now I am more than happy to get it done and can't wait. Thanks again for this video 👍
Loving it...great demonstration
Ok, I think that this proves that powder coating is not significantly better than painting them, because regardless of the powder coating they were still damaged and would need to be repaired not unlike painted wheels. Sure the powder coating is slightly more resistant but they still got damages, so either way you have to be careful not to scratch your wheels and if you do you would need them repaired. And the odds of you getting acid or an open flame on the wheels is pretty low honestly, and you would still need them repaired if they were powder coated...
That exactly my thoughts. No denying that powder coating is more durable but lets be honest. No matter how small the damage is..we would still get it repaired. Most car guys wouldn't be happy with some damaged wheels.
This is exactly why I’m not gonna have my wheels painted as opposed to spending more on powder cos ultimately, I have to repair both when damaged !!
You're both wrong. If you think about the applications in real life. With the painted wheels you've literally got 1 life, once they're scratched, it sticks out like a sore thumb and you're through to metal, it's softer so the gash is deeper. With powder coated wheels, they're far harder to scratch through to metal so if you did the exact same damage, in real life, your probably not going to see metal. Not to mention if you got your tyres changed, they're going to get scratches if they're regular paint. I've got loads of experience with both.
Really good video Thanks I will choose the powder coating for my rims
Very informative! Well done Aloyfix, please keep the videos coming! I’ll be down to Romford soon for my next set of alloys!
Great video!!! i WAS trying to decide on powder coat vs paint. You clearly described advantages and disadvantages
very insightful video, probably the best one I've seen. Massive thanks. I'll be calling you next week
Hi, what kid of primer do you use? Is it zinc primer? Thanks
Hi lads, like the video and work you've put in. Will be good to see test on diamond cut alloys? Comparing the lacquer you use to a budget job?
I don't know if paint stripper is an acid you will see in the real world sometimes like battery acid would be a more realistic thing because if you get paint stripper on your wheels it's probably all over your painted care too unless you have a DeLorean and the same for the fire if you wheels are in a fire you have bigger concerns
Excluding 100% show wheels, powder coat for sure. It doesn't look quite as good but the durability really is on another level.
I expected the powder coat to win but as soon as either powder coat or paint is damaged then it’s damaged and needs repaired. It’s a lot more involved to repair the power coating as it is to repair the paint I’m assuming of course. But as it’s easier to get someone to repaint the damaged wheel is it cost effective.
I’m sticking with paint. I use a good paint with hardener and same for clear.
If you think about the applications in real life. With the painted wheels you've literally got 1 life, once they're scratched, it sticks out like a sore thumb and you're through to metal, it's softer so the gash is deeper. With powder coated wheels, they're far harder to scratch through to metal so if you did the exact same damage, in real life, your probably not going to see metal. Not to mention if you got your tyres changed, they're going to get scratches if they're regular paint. I've got loads of experience with both.
Where are you based?
How much costs for 4 18 wheels power one? Thanks
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My experience with our local shops I can buy brand new wheels for the same money as powder coating old wheels.
Unless powders have come along way ok the past 10 years it doesn’t hold up to the sun well. I had my hitch powder coated by a reputable company and it’s very dull and it only took about 3-4 years before that happened.
Clear coat with a quality 2k urathane next time instead of laquar. I am sure the powder coat will still win but the paint will do much better.
We did this a long time ago. But I am pretty sure we did use 2k. The man at the local paint shop said it was the best stuff he had. If we do the experiments again. I will try get 2k urathane
Spot on, but where's Zak 🤔
Can Magnesium alloy wheels be powder coated. Thanks Malc
Sorry for the late reply but they can
Thanks. Very informative!
Awesome tests
You could hide your bias for the powder coat a little better.
Great video 👌
Ohhh man I WISH that you were from my country Trinidad and Tobago
limited colors? i didnt really think 10,000+ was limited....
The thicker the coating the more likely it is to chip when a rock hits it. Also 6-12 months for a painted wheel finish? The fuck are you painting it with? Lol
Nice...👍.
To any onenhere in the philippines who want to get a powdercoating businesses we have a complete item small or big oven and hi-colo gun and sandblasting.....
Video basically shows me that painting is just fine for wheels
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Mad unkz wasn’t a professional powder coater ? He’s came out good , until it got thrown across the car park 👍
Also, the paint is solvent-based. And the powder coat is polyethylene-based. Polyethylene can contain solvent as well as acids. Your tests are inconclusive because you’re not testing properly. Tried touching that powder coat with a bunch of heat and it will boil and burn right off. Just take the paint. But you are not testing properly solvent-based and polyethylene would be heat best to break it down.
It's crazy how durable powder coat is compared to paint. The paint is suffering while the powdercoat is like.. hold my beer!
They both scratch and you have to repair both when curbed..
I guess my wheels are good then. :)
Mate, I'm worried about you breathing all that stuff in. :-/
We always wear respirators. For the sake of the video we had them of. But thanks. ☺️☺️
“Paint lasts 6 months” 😂 paint will last decades if treated well.
Pointless. First of all had you left them long enough to fully cure? Secondly, this test is basically a clear coat test, nothing more and nothing less, the base coat is irrelevant here. I have expensive clear coats for alloy motorcycle tanks that would mug any of these finishes in every test you done. My last point is that you showed the material thickness as if 0.3mm was the standard for spray painting? You could easily build that up with even flowcoats so I'm not sure what you were trying to show or prove by that. I could have spanked both of these in every test you done with only an acid etch prime, then a 2pack single stage boat epoxy in a simmilar black. Been doing this 4 decades now and do mostly custom freehand on the lorries and boats these days. I'll be by far the most experienced person on here.
Thanks for your comment. Not suggesting we have more experience or knowledge than you. But it’s an industry wide fact that powder coating is a stronger coating than simply painting. That’s why all alloys come powder coated from the manufactures.
But if you are interested and it’s feasible for you. More than happy to invite you down. You coat a wheel how you think we should of, using products of your choice and your expert hand. And we will coat the product how we know best and put them up to the same experiments (or tweak them if you prefer) and hopefully we might all learn something and have some fun doing it.
Get in touch if you interested in something like this. Look forward to hearing from you.
Umar (the guy in the video).
@@alloyfix_uk did he reply?? 😂
Love this video..i was considering whether to use powder coat or spray paint on my rims..now its definitely powder coat!