And PROVERBS 12:10 shows how much GOD'S people care for animals. And that compassion comes from GOD. . Matthew 25:35-37 was not being mentioned nor contradicted in the posting of PROVERBS 12:10. . @@carthainian
1st TIMOTHY 5:8, "Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever" . PROVERBS 12:10 does not even imply that the righteous care for humans more than animals. . In 1st KINGS 3:5, THE LORD said to Solomon, "Ask for whatever you want me to give you" . In 1st KINGS 3:9, Solomon said, "Give me an understanding heart so that I can govern your people well and know the difference between right and wrong. For who by himself is able to govern this great people of yours?” . And Solomon wrote PROVERBS. . PROVERBS 12:10 is wisdom from THE LORD. .
@@carthainian Why would God make animals if they don’t matter? Genesis says: The Lord looked upon all he had made, and indeed it was good. Besides, from what I’ve seen in this world, animals are a lot kinder than humans, and they don’t blaspheme, or blow up the world with bombs.
We live in a world that is cursed and broken because of sin. God keeps his promises. I am grateful that we can trust in Him and what He says, even if that means that sin and the consequences of sin exist. We have a trustworthy Lord who loves us enough to save us
Your God ‘saves’ you from the punishment HE he gave you, by having the 3rd part of him impregnate a teenager so the 2nd part of him could be killed so the 1st part of him wouldn’t be mad anymore? Yea, right 😂
I needed to hear this well explained answer to a question I struggle with every day. I help rescue cats in my community and it hurts me to my very spirit seeing what happens to some of these sweet innocent creatures. Sometimes it’s too much. But it also makes me praise and honor Jesus so much. How much did the sin of world hurt the One who saved me, a sinner? I take great peace knowing one day, soon, He will make all things right.
@@2l84me8 The being, God, didn't make the cats suffer. Our sin did. When Adam & Eve sinned in the garden it brought about our own suffering. Without sin there is no suffering but sin came into the world affecting everything since the time in the garden. @Melissa Dougherty has videos that can explain it much more than I can.
Hi Melissa, I am an English learner from SouthEast Asia. I aspire to be talking like you. The English language in your speeches is very soothing and eloquent. Please pray for me to be speaking a good English in the future.
I was sitting here and watching a listening to your video and though everything you said was on point and valid, the very last thing you said, "that God would make things right and that gives me hope". That simple statement struck a nerve in me and to gives me hope. As to what this person wrote to you about these animals in Mexico being abandoned and suffering, there are many who are doing their best to save them and there are videos detailing their actions to foster and find a forever home for those animals.
I love your answer, Melissa. First, I feel that woman’s pain for the animals. Myself, I have 2 rescued dogs and 2 rescued cats. I can’t take in any more, so I donate monthly to an organization called Hope for Paws. They are world wide, so my sweet sister from Mexico can feel good about supporting them. Personally, I had a surgeon do a slipshod back surgery on me making me disabled at 54. I’m now 70 and those 16 years have taken their toll. (It’s why I can’t take any more animals in.) We’ve had lots of snow. Living alone, I’m the one who needs to shovel. I’ve pulled a muscle on my side twice this past week causing me all sorts of extra pain. Along with my back, I now have this extra pain. I’ve asked, pleaded with God to heal both. He’s taking care of the muscle, but He’s chosen until this minute not to heal my back. Will He ever? I dunno, but I’ll be made new when I go to be with Him. Thank you Lord!
@@GyvonJanteUsually because humans hurt them and animals didn’t. Not saying it’s right but animals provide a convenient escape not to love people while still claiming to be a loving person. You’ll find that a lot of people who put animals over others will also say that other humans are terrible or untrustworthy. There’s a lot of baggage there.
Thank you, Melissa. I really appreciate this one. I hold animals so dear to my heart, I have several rescue pups, and it breaks my heart to see innocent creatures suffer 💔 ✝️ but God is good 🙏
Melissa, thank you for tackling the tough questions. I've struggled mightily with this particular topic, more than any other. Every bit of help is most welcome. God bless you and yours. ❤
New subscriber here 👋 coming out of the new age. REALLY enjoying your content. Your points are well thought out and backed up with evidence and you’re very well spoken.
In November my family had to put down our family dog of 13yrs. The deep anguish i felt suprised and shook me. We've lost 2 family members recently, both of which i believed to be true Christians. Heaven awaited them. But my dog? Drifting to sleep, when my soul is bothered, i listen to the psalms. Often I'm brought to awareness just as the God's Word is speaking something i desperately need-a comfort, widoom, direction, guidance. This time Psalm 104 27-30 awakened me. He truly loves the life He created. His creation, even the rocks, testify to His greatness and love. The Bible is full of this sentiment. With this i was able to find peace and rest. Heaven will be full. Animals and children who suffer under the weight of sin will be redeemed. The love and compassion we show to all life is a good kind Christian way to be in this world
The question is NOT "Why do bad things happen to good people?" The question is "Why does anything good happen to ANYONE? since there are NO 'good people.' "
What helped me is when you said " A good world has to have free will. God didn't create a perfect world, He created a good world." Paraphrasing. Wish I wrote it down. If you see this, could you remind us?
Actually God did create a perfect world y'know... when Adam and Eve lived under his guidance all was well. It all started going downhill when Adam and Eve turned against God. Also, the serpent basically said that mankind would be better off without God’s guidance (Genesis 3:2-5).
I had an epiphany regarding suffering in this life. Imagine the largest book you’ve ever seen. Now imagine that book has a beginning but it has no end. If you open that book, go to the first page and look at the first letter on that page well, that first letter is you’re entire life in this world. God cares very much about every line that makes up that letter but he cares even more about the endless words that follow it. Context is everything and sometimes we need to remember that we serve a God that sees and cares about our present sufferings but he also sees the eternal story beyond it that has no end.
also an specific point about animals it's as she said, that yeah it's according to our will. We (our ancestors) decided to domasticate dogs, made them unable to find food for themselves, and little by little people stoppped caring for them, but the dogs ramained the same, they still need us. We are the ones who created evil by stopping caring for something me modified. The only thing we have now left to do is to at least take care of them. I had the same thought as her and the person with the question, I see a bunch of dogs starving and just waiting to die, and I have rescued some of them, but my hands are full and I just pray that God will make all things right one day and our anguish will go away.
Wonderful content for the thinking class. I wish the Churches I have tried to attend had folks like you there. They hated me because I was raised Catholic, but pretended to be my friend. The Catholic Church doesn't seem to care about me but doesn't pretend to be my friend either. No place to call home.
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” Isaiah 45:7 KJV God most certainly creates evil, he said so. This was a challenging verse for me when I first came across it. But YHWH has since gave me peace about it ✝️🙏
Wow. I just prayed about this today, asking God to take care of stray animals because there are so many of them abandoned on the streets where I live. I wish I could save them all but that's impossible. It's as if He sent a response through you. 😊
@@rickiilatino Thank you! I feel the same way. Animals are just as loving as humans (if not more) and deserving of our compassion. I feel we should care for all living things. I also think that pets are often a blessing to us as they are so loyal and affectionate
I end up watching the reforeststion/regeneration documentaries on youtube. 😅 it definitely helps the perspective. Jesus is the ultimate Healer of our broken world; we eagerly wait for Him and share the gospel.....and watch nice news stories sometimes to help our sad feelings. 😂
Melissa, thanks! I love that you so often feel the pulse of what's going on and address it beautifully. Now that's a gift from God! Keep doing what you do! As a former Catholic and ex new ager, born again in Jesus Christ, you have helped me over these past few years with many of my struggles. May the peace and love of Jesus Christ be with you and all those that you touch, forever and always! Amen ❤️🕊️✝️
Hey Melissa God bless you, that is a question everyone asks but you explained great, I leave it up to God your right he makes everything right, good, Sold out for Jesus
What a wonderful response! I love how you shared how everyone must deal with suffering, and for me, my encounter with God has been the most beautiful and immense thing to ever happen to me. The answer, then, to the problem of evil... is Christ. He was the Son of God, but He experienced so much suffering out of love for us and our salvation. So... a personal relationship with Christ has answered so many longings in my heart, even though I will never comprehend His mystery or every bad thing that happens in life. I have been doing the "Surrender Novena" and it has brought me so close to the heart of Christ. As you and others in this comment section know, actively immersing yourself in prayer toward God can really be an aid to navigating complicated life situations and feelings. ♥🥰
I’m watching this video while cradling a dying rat on my lap. I’ve watched her battle old age and tumours for months. I have faith that God will make all things new and redeem creation, so I’m looking forward to a time and place where I get to spend a perfect eternity with the people and creatures I love. Love is only real if it is not coerced.
Wow,,,finding your cast has been wonderful..when I made the decision to join a missionary team that searched out the homeless and fed and clothed them it did something to Me that cut to my very soul ..I finally figured out that becoming a Christ follower was meant to be more than a get out of Hell Card….
In our weakness, His strength is made whole. When we suffer and reach out, He's there, when we realize we aren't enough and need help, He's there. If we didn't suffer, if we never became weak, how would His strength be made perfect in us? And how would we ever develop compassion for those who suffer if we have never suffered and have no clue what pain is? We'd be telling people to smile, like on fantasy island, no matter what or give them a happy pill, oh, wait, that's what society already does...
@@hunterhestekin7420 I will give you examples from my own life. Recently I was confronted with two highly stressful situations which deeply impacted my life yet I was completely powerless to resolve. I reached out for all I was worth and handed the situations over to God, letting Him know fully that I just didn't how to deal with them. In both situation in less than 24 hrs they were completely resolved and in a way I could have never imagined. Another time, just last week, I woke up with people on my mind that I thought I had forgiven however their morning presence and my discomfort told me otherwise. I really felt inside that they should say sorry and not because I wanted them in my life again but so they could have a clearer slate with God. I did not know how to properly deal with these feelings and forgive them fully. This made me desperate because I knew if I didnt forgive, I would not be forgiven. So again I prayed, asked for help to be able to forgive them. Then immediately my mind was guided to thoughts of what life might be like if I was close to the people I couldnt forgive. I saw myself easily fitting in, living a highly successful and social life however what I didnt see was all the downtime I spend with God now. Then scripture about how Jesus came not to bring families together but separate them came to mind and I knew deep within that God had done this, separated me from these people and there wasn't a thing they could have said or done to stop God from what He wanted to do. They were blameless, there was nothing to forgive except maybe myself for holding onto unforgiveness that had no basis in reality. His knowledge, His strength was made perfect in me with perfect understanding that made the problem I had or the weakness, melt like snow on hot desert sand. Hallelujah! Does this help, I hope so. Have a blessed day. Hallelujah!
In our weakness (our times of need, our valleys) is when we most realize we need Him, and are willing to hand over control to Him. When we are "strong", when everything seems to be going good in our life, we act as if we don't need Him or His strength. @hunterhestekin7420
That's why it's almost better to be in "valleys" because there we lean on God the most. We tend to not think about God as much when our lives are "good".
This is good on a theoretical level, even for "lesser evils" like minor pains that people can get over and get stronger from. Or that serves a purpose. What i struggle with is when children are molested and raped and they cry out for it to stop, but it continues. As a mother, if i knew a child personally that was experiencing this, i would do everything in my power to make it stop. How much more would God as a good Father want to make it stop?
Creating a world where real love can exist creates the opportunity for evil, but it's only temporary. The world to come still has the opportunity for evil, but it will never arise again because everyone knows that real love is the better way.
God gave the allowance to eat meat after the Flood. Christ himself ate meat. The disciples ate meat. The Jews ate meat. Seeking kinder methods of animal care and slaughter are good, but it would be unbiblical to imply that those who eat animals, when God himself told Peter to kill and eat and told Noah that all animals are humanity’s to eat, is a sin.
So does torturing and killing and eating animals make it right because God said so? Does no one have any feelings of compassion for these innocent creatures They have not sinned They are Innocent...do you get that? Why would a loving God think that this is ok?
This reminds me of Romans eight verse twenty two. Whether it's mankind or the animal kingdom, there's a lot of groaning that takes place by and to both.
One thing we seem to forget about when it comes to Free Will is the fact that we're subjected to other people's Free Will the same way we exercise our own. We are all victims of our own choices and the choices of others in such an intrinsic way that we can't even fathom. Innocents, whether children or animals, suffer because we exercise our own free will to make them suffer, either by direct action or by inaction, by being passive to evil. God gave us the Bible as a guide, Jesus as a reference, and plenty of time to allow us to do the right thing. But we choose to ignore it, we choose to do things our own way, we chose evil, and then we deal with the consequences ~ and God just respects that. He respects our free will and don't force us to be and act better. And because of our own choices innocents suffer in the process, they pay for our own sins.
right... and how is that fair Dave? coming from God? how does that work out? to start, it was adam and eve... what does that have to do with the rest of humanity for every from that point on?
@@jgar6643 Adam and Eve chose to seek a "life" that was apart from God and by their rebellion turned away from the good that God had already provisioned. In effectively rejecting life (God is the source of our life) Adam's decision brought death into the world and mankind as he rejected his duty before God. Hence the wages/just consequence of sin is death - this is just reasonable law. By rebelling against God and separating ourselves from Him we disconnect ourselves from the life that He gives us. God has defeated death by becoming the Second Adam, paying the price for our sins by sacrificing Himself in innocence and resurrecting from the dead. "20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive." 1 Corinthians 15 I don't know how your relationship is with God but God has provided the way of life for many (including you) in love and He has given you the free will to receive it or reject it - He will not force you into the some fake love/relationship.
@jgar6643 because they doomed humanity. When they had children, the sin, disobedience and wage of sin (death) was passed down. So by a single act of disobedience, they pulled every coming generation of humanity away from God. Which is why it is said that God keeps account of everything. All the injustice done He will remember. All He asks is that you do not turn to evil to answer to evil done against you, because you don't know how it will affect you or others.
@@jgar6643 Just like @theswarm17 said, He will not force us into love Him, into following His words and laws, into following Jesus, He will just respect our freedom and our choices. If we choose Sin and Evil, then we have to deal with the consequences. All the innocents suffering and paying the price, that's on us and not on Him. Because He did more than enough since the Eden, He even gave His only Son so we could have a new chance... and what we did? We freely choose to murder Jesus, another innocent.
so, like, from there on EVERY OTHER INNOCENT PERSON OF THEIR "SO-CALLED" REBELLION SUFFERS AND PAYS AS WELL? WHAT THE FLYING FUK.... LISTEN IF ITS FREE WILL THEN IT SHOULDN'T BE ENTANGLED WITH FORCED UPON CONSEQUENCES.... RIGHT? ITS CONTRADICTORY... AND ALL YOU HAVE IS SCRIPTURES FROM THE SAME SOURCE THAT PREDICATES ON ETERNAL DAMNATION.. SO WHERE THE HELL IS THE FREEWILL?@@theswarm17
the "problem of evil" is easy to answer when it comes to things that are a result (whether directly or indirectly) of human choice. where it gets hard for me to answer is natural disasters. tsunamis, hurricanes, tornadoes, famines, etc. are these things somehow also the result of human free will?
Much love and respect to you and Turek. I do happen to disagree with the presented premises of free will. Scott Christansen in his book "What about Free Will" (and longer book "What About Evil") further clarifies the arguments and questions. No loss of love for either of you though.
A question about the Moral Argument (sibling to the problem of evil) and why having many reasons for faith. How does the idea of morality and good compare when it could be a product of "Social Cooperation"? The idea is that living in a community fosters the need for "Social Cooperation" and that the human idea of "Good and Evil" is just an evolutionary product "Social Cooperation". The RUclips channel Veritasium has a video about how even in a computer simulation kindness/cooperation wins over selfishness in "the prisoner dilemma."
Easy. That whole argument relies on circular reasoning about life. It thrives on the assumption that life is good or at least preferable to death. Which is fine, but if the universe is truly amoral, then there shouldn’t be a value on either life or death nor should anyone be ABLE to comprehend that one is better than the other. For an analogy, if all you know is gray and everything is the same gray, how do you get the idea of black and white or lighter/darker unless there are a true white and a true black to move toward? In the same way, it’s absurd to argue that morality comes from social cooperation, that is, the attempt to preserve life because this operates on the assumption that life is good, which should not exist as an idea if there is no true Good at all.
@@Window4503 I really appreciate your answer. I love the way you used the black white and Grey as your example. I've used CS Lewis's "how does a fish know its wet? The words wet would have no meaning if there weren't an opposite." However. The question is not about the questioners life or death or the beginning of life. Rather once life is created. Once we "evolved" into the social beings. The social network will foster an environment of cooperation amongst members. Violence is bad because the offender might need the help of their victim, or someone in the victims network. Selfishly it would be most advantages to be kind so the offender can influence the victim to helping. Morality based on selfish based on social needs. Veritasium does a video on the idea of "The Prisoners Delima"
Have you read the book of Job? He suffered a lot without deserving it. Finally, when god spoke to him, god did not give him a rational explanation, but reminded him of his limited perspective. It is possible, that we can achieve unbreakable faith and strength from suffering. An unconditional love for god. Not the kind of love that says: "I trust you and love you as long as everything is fine and you explain to me, why there are problems."
Yes. He just didn’t have experience. Don’t forget that God has existed from eternity and the majority of his existence doesn’t include evil. Yet he’s always been good and knows what it is. Likewise, Jesus, who is God and man, knows what evil is yet never sinned. Evil is rebellion against God. Even if Adam didn’t know the full impact of what evil does, he did know the difference between doing God’s will and not doing God’s will, which essentially boil down to good and evil.
Atheists do not deal with the problem of evil because that problem necessarily involves God's power and benevolence. God is the sine qua non of the problem of evil. And related to Augustine, to treat the terror of a child as the negative absence of good is abject blindness. As CS Lewis said, "There is something holier about the atheism of a Shelley than the theism of a Paley."
good explanation....... Please look into the removal of Mathew 17: 21....why would they remove that verse from most of the newer issue bibles....New International and others
Love exist throughout all the universes, but on earth the experience of the absence of love in our human form is a different exchange of energy. Death has no sting and the spiritual soul is not punished for what the flesh does.
😢😢😢the question isn't "why does God allow suffering"; the question is "why do we allow suffering"? We can ease suffering and evil; we can help creation be what it was supposed to be.
Christian Orthodoxy offers a future hope of the restoration of Creation as it was intended, with the term, "Apokatastasis", meaning to restore as intended.
The thing is people don’t necessarily see THEMSELVES as evil. They want the evil people to get what’s coming to them now. To have kids and animals suffer-free NOW. Not wait on God
If someone was to come to you as they did on the day of Pentecost and asked you " What must I do to be saved?" what would your response be to someone today? Are you going to tell them the same as Peter told the 3,000 souls? Are you confident to know if what your telling them is accurate as to what the Bible says considering salvation?
Hi Melissa, I'm new to the channel and I've been loving the content so far. I was wondering about your thoughts on so-called soul ties. I don't think this is a Biblical idea, but it's something people around me have been pushing on me as if it's super urgent and I need to break it (with my ex in particular). I'm in the middle of repenting for my past sins but this just seems... Kinda far out? Not sure if I'm supposed to ask questions here or somewhere else, but thanks for your commitment to Biblical accuracy.
Great explanation Another good book is called “the doors of the sea: where was God in the tsunami” Ephesians 6:12 “ 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of [a]the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.” For the early Christians evil is a uncreated potential when acted upon results in a privation of the good. For them evil action begins with rebellion in the unseen realm that infects creation. This includes natural disasters. Sin is to the world what disease is to the body. Humans as rational agents can cooperate with these supernatural powers and be influenced by them. Jesus who was with God from the beginning was always the one who would defeat death by death disarming these powers ultimately and installing a new great Age. Remember the result of what happened in the garden is not sin entering the world, but death entering the world. The result is death to all creation. Jesus defeats death. Also for me 1 John was helpful.
On the most fundamental building block scales of creation, we test infinite degree of Freedom yet uniformity, timelessness without liner direction perfect in everyway. It is no evil or good there. Sadly ppl want natural examples but it is one analogous to the garden before the fall. and in fact newtonian equations of our human dashboard was used by our classical American founders to escape platos cave of mystified shadows on the wall analogy. This is a chaldean dualistic cave and they climbed out of it on the triality of self epistemological observer. Qauntom physics confirmed what was always known. Our human dashboard and scales are the only places we find such dualistic higherachal categories of something symmetrical or chaotic. Order and entropy. Good or evil.. If we grant deterministic simplicity to higherachy like government or academics then we push infinite sums of complexity down upon us. Our founders used newton to say the individual ben Franklin systems are where it matters therefore they deserve the same unification of the tripartite nature found in Jesus Christ salvation. We are one with the lord who is one with the word, and that we should push the complexity upon congress just as God tells is to turn it over to him.
Its deep stuff but the like of Francis bacons to Thomas Jefferson was Already fully aware of the observera place that's become so popularly spoke of. Jesus was symbolically coded from the start in creation itself . God left over fingerPRINTS, aberration of his info is measurable and that our brains are graced by God to read it .
Is there any good resource for kids on the problem of evil? I read Keeping Your Kids on God’s Side which I love, but I need a book focused on that particular question for kids. Thanks!
"Hot Stove"... You can't truly understand the concept of "Hot Stove", until you burn your fingers. Everyone will eventually burn their fingers. Is the "Hot Stove" evil, no, it is both evil and good. You must treat "Hot Stove" with respect and understand the rules. This is the same with Love and Sin. God teaches us this through the Bible, and through suffering. (I Love your explanation as well Melissa, well done faithful daughter.)
What about things like cancer? A child having leukemia isn't a product of evil or even free will. The child didn't choose to have leukemia and nobody gave the child leukemia. They were just...unlucky.
Athiests will call reality non partisan, "universe doesnt care about you" ect, but they fail to fully grasp that love and goodness exist. Which essentially just turn into goal posts. These goal posts are exactly the reason God made us. To make the world better. To be his representatives here.
Thing is, if the universe doesn’t care and is non-partisan, then we should not even be able to comprehend good or evil. Atheists think that morality comes from wanting to survive or preserve life, but this is nonsense if we have no means of determining that life is better than death rather than just accepting both as neutral realities. In other words, they argue for a completely neutral world but want to live as if that same neutral world could sustain actual value assignments. They argue that reality is only gray but can’t explain why they can see or talk about colors out of nowhere, much less why it matters that colors are better than gray.
May I ask something that has nothing to do with the video. I love the painting in the background. Do you sell any of your artwork? Sorry 4 dropping this unrelated comment all. ❤
Even God came and suffered, so animals suffered, good people suffered, bad people suffered, so suffering kind of permeates everyone, big or small, some suffer more than others.
We should not conflate the suffering of animals with the suffering of humans, although some of the responses might be useful in both areas, because not all the answers for human suffering (see below), do not address the question about gratuitous animal suffering (like a deer stuck under some fallen trees, during a forrest fire somewhere that no one is aware of - atheists call this 'pointless suffering' and it's a valid point, although addressed below). There's different kinds of suffering and evil in the world (logical, natural and gratuitous). First has been addressed and atheists are just flogging a dead horse. Second is where things like God's omniscience and not being obliged to prolong anyone's life, our limited view of time, soul building, human free will being cherished by God and so on, all come in. I can only see that the "human freedom" has been mentioned here and as a panacea, which it isn't - certainly not for gratuitous animal suffering! Third, God is sovereign over all living things and he has the right over any life (much like we do when slaughtering animals - not implying God does the same but just the sovereignty aspect of it) and animals are not sentient as humans and therefore, lack the comprehension dimension and act more like on instinct, when it comes to pain, so applying our framework of pain on animals is not the best approach. I would then also add what Melissa says in the video about there being justice applied by God to all creation, but it's not the only answer.
Without demeaning the problem of suffering, it does provides the opportunity for us to be better by choosing to help ease the suffering.
PROVERBS 12:10, "The righteous care for the needs of their animals...".
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GOD bless you, Sister Melissa
Matthew 25:35-37. animals are just animals, Jesus's blood shows how much God cares for man, not animals!
God does care about animals; not one sparrow falls to the ground without His knowledge.
And PROVERBS 12:10 shows how much GOD'S people care for animals. And that compassion comes from GOD.
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Matthew 25:35-37 was not being mentioned nor contradicted in the posting of PROVERBS 12:10.
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1st TIMOTHY 5:8, "Anyone who does not provide for their relatives, and especially for their own household, has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever"
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PROVERBS 12:10 does not even imply that the righteous care for humans more than animals.
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In 1st KINGS 3:5, THE LORD said to Solomon, "Ask for whatever you want me to give you"
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In 1st KINGS 3:9, Solomon said, "Give me an understanding heart so that I can govern your people well and know the difference between right and wrong. For who by himself is able to govern this great people of yours?”
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And Solomon wrote PROVERBS.
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PROVERBS 12:10 is wisdom from THE LORD.
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@@carthainian Why would God make animals if they don’t matter?
Genesis says: The Lord looked upon all he had made, and indeed it was good.
Besides, from what I’ve seen in this world, animals are a lot kinder than humans,
and they don’t blaspheme, or blow up the world with bombs.
We live in a world that is cursed and broken because of sin. God keeps his promises. I am grateful that we can trust in Him and what He says, even if that means that sin and the consequences of sin exist. We have a trustworthy Lord who loves us enough to save us
Your God ‘saves’ you from the punishment HE he gave you, by having the 3rd part of him impregnate a teenager so the 2nd part of him could be killed so the 1st part of him wouldn’t be mad anymore?
Yea, right 😂
I needed to hear this well explained answer to a question I struggle with every day. I help rescue cats in my community and it hurts me to my very spirit seeing what happens to some of these sweet innocent creatures. Sometimes it’s too much. But it also makes me praise and honor Jesus so much. How much did the sin of world hurt the One who saved me, a sinner? I take great peace knowing one day, soon, He will make all things right.
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@@2l84me8 Preyz Gord and his mighty hand ✋️ 🤣
@@2l84me8 The being, God, didn't make the cats suffer. Our sin did. When Adam & Eve sinned in the garden it brought about our own suffering. Without sin there is no suffering but sin came into the world affecting everything since the time in the garden. @Melissa Dougherty has videos that can explain it much more than I can.
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I always liked the quote from A Walk to Remember when she says without suffering, there would be no compassion...
Melissa…this was an awesome explanation of evil. Thank you!!!
Hi Melissa, I am an English learner from SouthEast Asia. I aspire to be talking like you. The English language in your speeches is very soothing and eloquent. Please pray for me to be speaking a good English in the future.
I was sitting here and watching a listening to your video and though everything you said was on point and valid, the very last thing you said, "that God would make things right and that gives me hope". That simple statement struck a nerve in me and to gives me hope. As to what this person wrote to you about these animals in Mexico being abandoned and suffering, there are many who are doing their best to save them and there are videos detailing their actions to foster and find a forever home for those animals.
I love your answer, Melissa. First, I feel that woman’s pain for the animals. Myself, I have 2 rescued dogs and 2 rescued cats. I can’t take in any more, so I donate monthly to an organization called Hope for Paws. They are world wide, so my sweet sister from Mexico can feel good about supporting them. Personally, I had a surgeon do a slipshod back surgery on me making me disabled at 54. I’m now 70 and those 16 years have taken their toll. (It’s why I can’t take any more animals in.) We’ve had lots of snow. Living alone, I’m the one who needs to shovel. I’ve pulled a muscle on my side twice this past week causing me all sorts of extra pain. Along with my back, I now have this extra pain. I’ve asked, pleaded with God to heal both. He’s taking care of the muscle, but He’s chosen until this minute not to heal my back. Will He ever? I dunno, but I’ll be made new when I go to be with Him. Thank you Lord!
I’m not for cruelty of animals but I question those who favor animals over humans. Those who care for animals but care not so much for humans.
Praying for you 🙏
@@GyvonJanteUsually because humans hurt them and animals didn’t. Not saying it’s right but animals provide a convenient escape not to love people while still claiming to be a loving person. You’ll find that a lot of people who put animals over others will also say that other humans are terrible or untrustworthy. There’s a lot of baggage there.
True.. I’m one of those people.
If Evil did not exist, there would be no meaningful choice (because there would be no consequences).
Thank you, Melissa. I really appreciate this one. I hold animals so dear to my heart, I have several rescue pups, and it breaks my heart to see innocent creatures suffer 💔 ✝️ but God is good 🙏
Melissa, thank you for tackling the tough questions. I've struggled mightily with this particular topic, more than any other. Every bit of help is most welcome. God bless you and yours. ❤
I struggle with this deeply as well. I feel your pain. Animals are so close to my heart.
Well said. Good must exist first before evil can.
The Bible said God created evil
@@Imaginathor-1k0 Quote the Bible verse.
@@Imaginathor-1k0 True. Describe me a world without evil, but that also has free will.
@@user-yd3uh4pz5e a world that is free
@@Imaginathor-1k0 How can you have a free world if there is no choice to make between good and evil?
New subscriber here 👋 coming out of the new age. REALLY enjoying your content. Your points are well thought out and backed up with evidence and you’re very well spoken.
In November my family had to put down our family dog of 13yrs. The deep anguish i felt suprised and shook me. We've lost 2 family members recently, both of which i believed to be true Christians. Heaven awaited them. But my dog? Drifting to sleep, when my soul is bothered, i listen to the psalms. Often I'm brought to awareness just as the God's Word is speaking something i desperately need-a comfort, widoom, direction, guidance. This time Psalm 104 27-30 awakened me. He truly loves the life He created. His creation, even the rocks, testify to His greatness and love. The Bible is full of this sentiment. With this i was able to find peace and rest. Heaven will be full. Animals and children who suffer under the weight of sin will be redeemed. The love and compassion we show to all life is a good kind Christian way to be in this world
I'm old enough to wonder why anything good happens.
The question is NOT "Why do bad things happen to good people?" The question is "Why does anything good happen to ANYONE? since there are NO 'good people.' "
The reason there are no good people is because God decreed you would be conceived in iniquity.
All evil and sin originates from Him.
@@justin10292000This. We forget this. Not ONE of us is righteous.
I wonder how things exist
That statement made me think.
Thanks for posting
7:13 this is exactly the answer to the question… in my opinion!
What helped me is when you said " A good world has to have free will. God didn't create a perfect world, He created a good world." Paraphrasing. Wish I wrote it down. If you see this, could you remind us?
Actually God did create a perfect world y'know... when Adam and Eve lived under his guidance all was well. It all started going downhill when Adam and Eve turned against God. Also, the serpent basically said that mankind would be better off without God’s guidance (Genesis 3:2-5).
I had an epiphany regarding suffering in this life. Imagine the largest book you’ve ever seen. Now imagine that book has a beginning but it has no end. If you open that book, go to the first page and look at the first letter on that page well, that first letter is you’re entire life in this world. God cares very much about every line that makes up that letter but he cares even more about the endless words that follow it. Context is everything and sometimes we need to remember that we serve a God that sees and cares about our present sufferings but he also sees the eternal story beyond it that has no end.
Every being and everything is creator/self in a different phase… you are every soul line
also an specific point about animals it's as she said, that yeah it's according to our will. We (our ancestors) decided to domasticate dogs, made them unable to find food for themselves, and little by little people stoppped caring for them, but the dogs ramained the same, they still need us. We are the ones who created evil by stopping caring for something me modified. The only thing we have now left to do is to at least take care of them. I had the same thought as her and the person with the question, I see a bunch of dogs starving and just waiting to die, and I have rescued some of them, but my hands are full and I just pray that God will make all things right one day and our anguish will go away.
Wonderful content for the thinking class.
I wish the Churches I have tried to attend had folks like you there. They hated me because I was raised Catholic, but pretended to be my friend.
The Catholic Church doesn't seem to care about me but doesn't pretend to be my friend either.
No place to call home.
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”
Isaiah 45:7 KJV
God most certainly creates evil, he said so. This was a challenging verse for me when I first came across it. But YHWH has since gave me peace about it ✝️🙏
Wow. I just prayed about this today, asking God to take care of stray animals because there are so many of them abandoned on the streets where I live. I wish I could save them all but that's impossible. It's as if He sent a response through you. 😊
Praise God, you have a kind heart ❤️ There is room in God's big heart for all life He created 🕊
@@rickiilatino Thank you! I feel the same way. Animals are just as loving as humans (if not more) and deserving of our compassion. I feel we should care for all living things. I also think that pets are often a blessing to us as they are so loyal and affectionate
The only response the “if god real why bad thing happen” crowd should ever get is “if god not real why good thing happen”
God's blessings from Bay City Michigan
You are bright bright light Melissa
Thank you Sister!! Great explanation!! ❤️✝️🙌
Bravo.. cool explanation
The cut finger analogy was brilliant and really got me thinking. Thank you for posting such fascinating and engaging content!
I have a hard time watching nature documentaries. 😢 I want to save everything.
I end up watching the reforeststion/regeneration documentaries on youtube. 😅 it definitely helps the perspective. Jesus is the ultimate Healer of our broken world; we eagerly wait for Him and share the gospel.....and watch nice news stories sometimes to help our sad feelings. 😂
Thanks for this insights! Well said 🤍 God bless you🙏 Prayers for us🙏
Melissa, thanks! I love that you so often feel the pulse of what's going on and address it beautifully. Now that's a gift from God! Keep doing what you do! As a former Catholic and ex new ager, born again in Jesus Christ, you have helped me over these past few years with many of my struggles. May the peace and love of Jesus Christ be with you and all those that you touch, forever and always! Amen ❤️🕊️✝️
Amazing video Melissa!
Great video. I appreciate how you explained everything. I struggle with things like this as well, especially when I see St. Jude ads on tv.
Thanks Melissa, I have not heard this explanation before.
Hey Melissa God bless you, that is a question everyone asks but you explained great, I leave it up to God your right he makes everything right, good, Sold out for Jesus
I’ve been looking for the answer to a very similar question and you helped sum it up really well!!
Great note to end on, God will make things right again. Look forward to more content like this, and God Bless you, Melissa
He has an awful lot of things to make right that's for sure
It rains on the just & the unjust
This is so good. Thank you for sharing and for the recommendations.
Awesome Malissa....
These types of questions prove:
1. We do NOT understand sin
2. We do NOT understand God.
But asking the questions help us remedy that. :)
What a wonderful response! I love how you shared how everyone must deal with suffering, and for me, my encounter with God has been the most beautiful and immense thing to ever happen to me. The answer, then, to the problem of evil... is Christ. He was the Son of God, but He experienced so much suffering out of love for us and our salvation. So... a personal relationship with Christ has answered so many longings in my heart, even though I will never comprehend His mystery or every bad thing that happens in life. I have been doing the "Surrender Novena" and it has brought me so close to the heart of Christ. As you and others in this comment section know, actively immersing yourself in prayer toward God can really be an aid to navigating complicated life situations and feelings. ♥🥰
I’m watching this video while cradling a dying rat on my lap. I’ve watched her battle old age and tumours for months. I have faith that God will make all things new and redeem creation, so I’m looking forward to a time and place where I get to spend a perfect eternity with the people and creatures I love. Love is only real if it is not coerced.
I needed this today. Thanks so so much.
This was so good. Thank you, Melissa! 🌻
I THIRST FOR THIS ANSWER
you earned a subscriber, good job.
Great explanation!
Wow,,,finding your cast has been wonderful..when I made the decision to join a missionary team that searched out the homeless and fed and clothed them it did something to
Me that cut to my very soul ..I finally figured out that becoming a Christ follower was meant to be more than a get out of Hell Card….
There's no question that God is a God of justice !!! And all lives are being recorded by Him , so nobody is getting away with anything done here!!!
In our weakness, His strength is made whole. When we suffer and reach out, He's there, when we realize we aren't enough and need help, He's there. If we didn't suffer, if we never became weak, how would His strength be made perfect in us? And how would we ever develop compassion for those who suffer if we have never suffered and have no clue what pain is? We'd be telling people to smile, like on fantasy island, no matter what or give them a happy pill, oh, wait, that's what society already does...
What does God mean by, in our weakness is where His strength is?
My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness. 2 Corinthians 12:9
@@hunterhestekin7420 I will give you examples from my own life. Recently I was confronted with two highly stressful situations which deeply impacted my life yet I was completely powerless to resolve. I reached out for all I was worth and handed the situations over to God, letting Him know fully that I just didn't how to deal with them. In both situation in less than 24 hrs they were completely resolved and in a way I could have never imagined. Another time, just last week, I woke up with people on my mind that I thought I had forgiven however their morning presence and my discomfort told me otherwise. I really felt inside that they should say sorry and not because I wanted them in my life again but so they could have a clearer slate with God. I did not know how to properly deal with these feelings and forgive them fully. This made me desperate because I knew if I didnt forgive, I would not be forgiven. So again I prayed, asked for help to be able to forgive them. Then immediately my mind was guided to thoughts of what life might be like if I was close to the people I couldnt forgive. I saw myself easily fitting in, living a highly successful and social life however what I didnt see was all the downtime I spend with God now. Then scripture about how Jesus came not to bring families together but separate them came to mind and I knew deep within that God had done this, separated me from these people and there wasn't a thing they could have said or done to stop God from what He wanted to do. They were blameless, there was nothing to forgive except maybe myself for holding onto unforgiveness that had no basis in reality. His knowledge, His strength was made perfect in me with perfect understanding that made the problem I had or the weakness, melt like snow on hot desert sand. Hallelujah! Does this help, I hope so. Have a blessed day. Hallelujah!
In our weakness (our times of need, our valleys) is when we most realize we need Him, and are willing to hand over control to Him. When we are "strong", when everything seems to be going good in our life, we act as if we don't need Him or His strength. @hunterhestekin7420
That's why it's almost better to be in "valleys" because there we lean on God the most.
We tend to not think about God as much when our lives are "good".
This is good on a theoretical level, even for "lesser evils" like minor pains that people can get over and get stronger from. Or that serves a purpose. What i struggle with is when children are molested and raped and they cry out for it to stop, but it continues. As a mother, if i knew a child personally that was experiencing this, i would do everything in my power to make it stop. How much more would God as a good Father want to make it stop?
Great video
Creating a world where real love can exist creates the opportunity for evil, but it's only temporary. The world to come still has the opportunity for evil, but it will never arise again because everyone knows that real love is the better way.
Part of my commitment of following Christ is reducing the suffering of animals by not torturing, killing, and eating them.
God gave the allowance to eat meat after the Flood. Christ himself ate meat. The disciples ate meat. The Jews ate meat. Seeking kinder methods of animal care and slaughter are good, but it would be unbiblical to imply that those who eat animals, when God himself told Peter to kill and eat and told Noah that all animals are humanity’s to eat, is a sin.
@@Window4503 So are you saying that the Bible is justification for the torture, rape, and killing of animals?
So does torturing and killing and eating animals make it right because God said so?
Does no one have any feelings of compassion for these innocent creatures
They have not sinned
They are Innocent...do you get that?
Why would a loving God think that this is ok?
This reminds me of Romans eight verse twenty two. Whether it's mankind or the animal kingdom, there's a lot of groaning that takes place by and to both.
It must be accepted by faith,there is no other way.
Pretty good .. thanks!
The only unconditional love on this planet comes from dogs nothing and no one else shows this unconditional love.
One thing we seem to forget about when it comes to Free Will is the fact that we're subjected to other people's Free Will the same way we exercise our own. We are all victims of our own choices and the choices of others in such an intrinsic way that we can't even fathom. Innocents, whether children or animals, suffer because we exercise our own free will to make them suffer, either by direct action or by inaction, by being passive to evil.
God gave us the Bible as a guide, Jesus as a reference, and plenty of time to allow us to do the right thing. But we choose to ignore it, we choose to do things our own way, we chose evil, and then we deal with the consequences ~ and God just respects that. He respects our free will and don't force us to be and act better. And because of our own choices innocents suffer in the process, they pay for our own sins.
right... and how is that fair Dave? coming from God? how does that work out? to start, it was adam and eve... what does that have to do with the rest of humanity for every from that point on?
@@jgar6643 Adam and Eve chose to seek a "life" that was apart from God and by their rebellion turned away from the good that God had already provisioned. In effectively rejecting life (God is the source of our life) Adam's decision brought death into the world and mankind as he rejected his duty before God. Hence the wages/just consequence of sin is death - this is just reasonable law. By rebelling against God and separating ourselves from Him we disconnect ourselves from the life that He gives us. God has defeated death by becoming the Second Adam, paying the price for our sins by sacrificing Himself in innocence and resurrecting from the dead.
"20 But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive."
1 Corinthians 15
I don't know how your relationship is with God but God has provided the way of life for many (including you) in love and He has given you the free will to receive it or reject it - He will not force you into the some fake love/relationship.
@jgar6643 because they doomed humanity. When they had children, the sin, disobedience and wage of sin (death) was passed down. So by a single act of disobedience, they pulled every coming generation of humanity away from God. Which is why it is said that God keeps account of everything. All the injustice done He will remember. All He asks is that you do not turn to evil to answer to evil done against you, because you don't know how it will affect you or others.
@@jgar6643 Just like @theswarm17 said, He will not force us into love Him, into following His words and laws, into following Jesus, He will just respect our freedom and our choices. If we choose Sin and Evil, then we have to deal with the consequences.
All the innocents suffering and paying the price, that's on us and not on Him. Because He did more than enough since the Eden, He even gave His only Son so we could have a new chance... and what we did? We freely choose to murder Jesus, another innocent.
so, like, from there on EVERY OTHER INNOCENT PERSON OF THEIR "SO-CALLED" REBELLION SUFFERS AND PAYS AS WELL? WHAT THE FLYING FUK.... LISTEN IF ITS FREE WILL THEN IT SHOULDN'T BE ENTANGLED WITH FORCED UPON CONSEQUENCES.... RIGHT? ITS CONTRADICTORY... AND ALL YOU HAVE IS SCRIPTURES FROM THE SAME SOURCE THAT PREDICATES ON ETERNAL DAMNATION.. SO WHERE THE HELL IS THE FREEWILL?@@theswarm17
When you can create, destroy, and revive anything, any one of those isn't a big deal
The Doors of the Sea by David Bentley Heart. It’s only 100 pages. I thought it was an excellent book on this subject.
the "problem of evil" is easy to answer when it comes to things that are a result (whether directly or indirectly) of human choice.
where it gets hard for me to answer is natural disasters. tsunamis, hurricanes, tornadoes, famines, etc.
are these things somehow also the result of human free will?
@dursty3226 All those things are a result of our world being cursed under sin.
@@itsallmonifa you're saying those things are part of God cursing the ground for Adam's sin?
Saint Augustine of Hippo, one of the Catholic Church Fathers, Doctors, and Bishops, was truly a wise man. Credits where credits due.
I’m 60 too
Much love and respect to you and Turek. I do happen to disagree with the presented premises of free will. Scott Christansen in his book "What about Free Will" (and longer book "What About Evil") further clarifies the arguments and questions. No loss of love for either of you though.
A question about the Moral Argument (sibling to the problem of evil) and why having many reasons for faith.
How does the idea of morality and good compare when it could be a product of "Social Cooperation"?
The idea is that living in a community fosters the need for "Social Cooperation" and that the human idea of "Good and Evil" is just an evolutionary product "Social Cooperation".
The RUclips channel Veritasium has a video about how even in a computer simulation kindness/cooperation wins over selfishness in "the prisoner dilemma."
Easy. That whole argument relies on circular reasoning about life. It thrives on the assumption that life is good or at least preferable to death. Which is fine, but if the universe is truly amoral, then there shouldn’t be a value on either life or death nor should anyone be ABLE to comprehend that one is better than the other.
For an analogy, if all you know is gray and everything is the same gray, how do you get the idea of black and white or lighter/darker unless there are a true white and a true black to move toward? In the same way, it’s absurd to argue that morality comes from social cooperation, that is, the attempt to preserve life because this operates on the assumption that life is good, which should not exist as an idea if there is no true Good at all.
@@Window4503
I really appreciate your answer. I love the way you used the black white and Grey as your example. I've used CS Lewis's "how does a fish know its wet? The words wet would have no meaning if there weren't an opposite."
However. The question is not about the questioners life or death or the beginning of life.
Rather once life is created. Once we "evolved" into the social beings. The social network will foster an environment of cooperation amongst members. Violence is bad because the offender might need the help of their victim, or someone in the victims network. Selfishly it would be most advantages to be kind so the offender can influence the victim to helping. Morality based on selfish based on social needs.
Veritasium does a video on the idea of "The Prisoners Delima"
I worry over the suffering of the world more than anything theologically.
Maybe the person asking this question should open an animal charity though?
Have you read the book of Job? He suffered a lot without deserving it. Finally, when god spoke to him, god did not give him a rational explanation, but reminded him of his limited perspective. It is possible, that we can achieve unbreakable faith and strength from suffering. An unconditional love for god. Not the kind of love that says: "I trust you and love you as long as everything is fine and you explain to me, why there are problems."
Does anyone know of a solid resource I can use to help get my adult daughter out of new age?
I always wondered why God made bugs that only do " bad" things mosquitoes....
Birds/frogs/bats/spiders eat mosquitoes.
All those beautiful happy songbirds we all love gotta eat, right?
However, I don't understand bed bugs.😂
@@AnarSchism. Me either
There is also the arguement, that without evil, how can one know what good is? Did Adam have any concept of evil before the fall.
Yes. He just didn’t have experience. Don’t forget that God has existed from eternity and the majority of his existence doesn’t include evil. Yet he’s always been good and knows what it is. Likewise, Jesus, who is God and man, knows what evil is yet never sinned. Evil is rebellion against God. Even if Adam didn’t know the full impact of what evil does, he did know the difference between doing God’s will and not doing God’s will, which essentially boil down to good and evil.
Why do we continue to say that God Is perfect and keep making excuses for him when throughout history we see so many failures on his part.
Atheists do not deal with the problem of evil because that problem necessarily involves God's power and benevolence. God is the sine qua non of the problem of evil. And related to Augustine, to treat the terror of a child as the negative absence of good is abject blindness. As CS Lewis said, "There is something holier about the atheism of a Shelley than the theism of a Paley."
good explanation....... Please look into the removal of Mathew 17: 21....why would they remove that verse from most of the newer issue bibles....New International and others
Love exist throughout all the universes, but on earth the experience of the absence of love in our human form is a different exchange of energy. Death has no sting and the spiritual soul is not punished for what the flesh does.
😢😢😢the question isn't "why does God allow suffering"; the question is "why do we allow suffering"? We can ease suffering and evil; we can help creation be what it was supposed to be.
Christian Orthodoxy offers a future hope of the restoration of Creation as it was intended, with the term, "Apokatastasis", meaning to restore as intended.
The thing is people don’t necessarily see THEMSELVES as evil. They want the evil people to get what’s coming to them now. To have kids and animals suffer-free NOW. Not wait on God
In a prediluvian world it never snowed.
SNOW IS EVIL. LOL !
If someone was to come to you as they did on the day of Pentecost and asked you " What must I do to be saved?" what would your response be to someone today? Are you going to tell them the same as Peter told the 3,000 souls? Are you confident to know if what your telling them is accurate as to what the Bible says considering salvation?
Hi Melissa, I'm new to the channel and I've been loving the content so far. I was wondering about your thoughts on so-called soul ties. I don't think this is a Biblical idea, but it's something people around me have been pushing on me as if it's super urgent and I need to break it (with my ex in particular). I'm in the middle of repenting for my past sins but this just seems... Kinda far out?
Not sure if I'm supposed to ask questions here or somewhere else, but thanks for your commitment to Biblical accuracy.
Great explanation
Another good book is called “the doors of the sea: where was God in the tsunami” Ephesians 6:12 “ 12 For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of [a]the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.”
For the early Christians evil is a uncreated potential when acted upon results in a privation of the good. For them evil action begins with rebellion in the unseen realm that infects creation. This includes natural disasters. Sin is to the world what disease is to the body. Humans as rational agents can cooperate with these supernatural powers and be influenced by them. Jesus who was with God from the beginning was always the one who would defeat death by death disarming these powers ultimately and installing a new great Age. Remember the result of what happened in the garden is not sin entering the world, but death entering the world. The result is death to all creation. Jesus defeats death. Also for me 1 John was helpful.
On the most fundamental building block scales of creation, we test infinite degree of Freedom yet uniformity, timelessness without liner direction perfect in everyway.
It is no evil or good there. Sadly ppl want natural examples but it is one analogous to the garden before the fall.
and in fact newtonian equations of our human dashboard was used by our classical American founders to escape platos cave of mystified shadows on the wall analogy. This is a chaldean dualistic cave and they climbed out of it on the triality of self epistemological observer.
Qauntom physics confirmed what was always known.
Our human dashboard and scales are the only places we find such dualistic higherachal categories of something symmetrical or chaotic.
Order and entropy.
Good or evil..
If we grant deterministic simplicity to higherachy like government or academics then we push infinite sums of complexity down upon us.
Our founders used newton to say the individual ben Franklin systems are where it matters therefore they deserve the same unification of the tripartite nature found in Jesus Christ salvation. We are one with the lord who is one with the word, and that we should push the complexity upon congress just as God tells is to turn it over to him.
Its deep stuff but the like of Francis bacons to Thomas Jefferson was
Already fully aware of the observera place that's become so popularly spoke of.
Jesus was symbolically coded from the start in creation itself .
God left over fingerPRINTS, aberration of his info is measurable and that our brains are graced by God to read it .
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Is there any good resource for kids on the problem of evil? I read Keeping Your Kids on God’s Side which I love, but I need a book focused on that particular question for kids. Thanks!
Hi, thanx for your content what version of the bible must i read, is the king james version the best one?
"Hot Stove"... You can't truly understand the concept of "Hot Stove", until you burn your fingers. Everyone will eventually burn their fingers. Is the "Hot Stove" evil, no, it is both evil and good. You must treat "Hot Stove" with respect and understand the rules. This is the same with Love and Sin. God teaches us this through the Bible, and through suffering. (I Love your explanation as well Melissa, well done faithful daughter.)
Why do we blame God if we could choose to save starving children or dogs if we wanted to
God probably wonders how WE allow so much suffering to go on.
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What about things like cancer? A child having leukemia isn't a product of evil or even free will. The child didn't choose to have leukemia and nobody gave the child leukemia. They were just...unlucky.
Athiests will call reality non partisan, "universe doesnt care about you" ect, but they fail to fully grasp that love and goodness exist. Which essentially just turn into goal posts. These goal posts are exactly the reason God made us. To make the world better. To be his representatives here.
Thing is, if the universe doesn’t care and is non-partisan, then we should not even be able to comprehend good or evil. Atheists think that morality comes from wanting to survive or preserve life, but this is nonsense if we have no means of determining that life is better than death rather than just accepting both as neutral realities. In other words, they argue for a completely neutral world but want to live as if that same neutral world could sustain actual value assignments. They argue that reality is only gray but can’t explain why they can see or talk about colors out of nowhere, much less why it matters that colors are better than gray.
I have a problem with what you're saying around 2:43 . Don't the angels truly love God? And aren't they without free will too?
May I ask something that has nothing to do with the video. I love the painting in the background. Do you sell any of your artwork?
Sorry 4 dropping this unrelated comment all.
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The problem is the idea for evil. God created all ideas of evil if he is the creator of all things.
Doesn't God say in Isaiah that He creates all good and evil, All peace and chaos?
It's not that he just allows it.
Even God came and suffered, so animals suffered, good people suffered, bad people suffered, so suffering kind of permeates everyone, big or small, some suffer more than others.
And this is a good thing?
We should not conflate the suffering of animals with the suffering of humans, although some of the responses might be useful in both areas, because not all the answers for human suffering (see below), do not address the question about gratuitous animal suffering (like a deer stuck under some fallen trees, during a forrest fire somewhere that no one is aware of - atheists call this 'pointless suffering' and it's a valid point, although addressed below).
There's different kinds of suffering and evil in the world (logical, natural and gratuitous).
First has been addressed and atheists are just flogging a dead horse.
Second is where things like God's omniscience and not being obliged to prolong anyone's life, our limited view of time, soul building, human free will being cherished by God and so on, all come in. I can only see that the "human freedom" has been mentioned here and as a panacea, which it isn't - certainly not for gratuitous animal suffering!
Third, God is sovereign over all living things and he has the right over any life (much like we do when slaughtering animals - not implying God does the same but just the sovereignty aspect of it) and animals are not sentient as humans and therefore, lack the comprehension dimension and act more like on instinct, when it comes to pain, so applying our framework of pain on animals is not the best approach. I would then also add what Melissa says in the video about there being justice applied by God to all creation, but it's not the only answer.