Why THIS Lamborghini Huracan STO Can't Break the Nurburgring Record!

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  • Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
  • Today let’s discuss a very modified STO that may have been trying to disguise itself as a stock STO for some lap record attempts!
    00:00 Hey everybody I’m Robert!
    00:03 Something exciting…
    00:34 What happened on Thursday and Friday last week?…
    01:06 Not a stock car!
    01:23: Disclaimer alert.
    02:45 What wasn’t stock?
    03:57 Innocent until proven guilty!
    05:30 Closed of cooling…
    06:30 A kill switch?!
    07:00 Clearly a glass window…
    07:30 Why do we have additional cooling?
    08:37 Similarities to the Super Trofeo…
    09:15 What’s up with the windshield?
    11:06 Making things smooth!
    11:38 Centre slot aero talk
    12:26 Something is up with the side windows…
    14:29 More tape!!!
    15:32 They changed the wing for the ‘record lap’?!
    17:52 Locking up the brakes? Stock ABS?
    18:44 Ice ABS
    20:20 Race fuel talk…
    22:32 Round up and my final thoughts!
    29:30 Thanks and goodbye!
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  • @mgcharoudin
    @mgcharoudin 3 года назад +826

    SSC controversy: doing research about record runs in the USA from the Nürburgring.
    Lamborghini STnO: Doing research about the Nürburgring runs from the United States.
    It all adds up people!

    • @MacheteK
      @MacheteK 3 года назад +8

      Good comment

    • @sooofancier
      @sooofancier 3 года назад +9

      *STnO
      Is this some sort of new Lambhorgini model that you've created?

    • @Leshic2
      @Leshic2 3 года назад +25

      Love it! STnO!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! Love your humor Misha!

    • @alistairwillock7266
      @alistairwillock7266 3 года назад +8

      Busted.

    • @Siskovski
      @Siskovski 3 года назад +8

      Are you sayin' he's been the mastermind behind all these controversies?

  • @Shmee150
    @Shmee150 3 года назад +785

    I have no doubt the STO is going to be an incredible car, and I'm very excited for the arrival of mine later this year. However, nothing is more important than honesty and transparency as we learned with the SSC Tuatara last year. Let's hope there's no intent to pull the wool over our eyes!
    EDIT: Removed "What a dumb controversy! ;)" because clearly too many people didn't understand that was a reference to the article written by Motor Trend last October, in reference to the video content made by Robert, Misha and myself when we suggested things weren't right with the SSC Tuatara 331mph record. This is not me defending or attacking Lamborghini either way, it was a joke, that too many people didn't understand. Sorry!

    • @sooofancier
      @sooofancier 3 года назад +11

      HI SHMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
      how did you came here rapidly?

    • @MegaSturrup
      @MegaSturrup 3 года назад

      Thats key for sure

    • @JerainJezza
      @JerainJezza 3 года назад +30

      It's Lamborghini, they did it in the past and they will do it again... :D

    • @AleksandrHalas
      @AleksandrHalas 3 года назад +3

      Totally agree with Shmee

    • @Shmee150
      @Shmee150 3 года назад +53

      @@JerainJezza Something tells me it might be worth a further look back at the Performante and SVJ laps with similar methods to that of the Tuatara... as Misha did at the time with the Perf. Who knows what we might find! ;)

  • @tomstamp
    @tomstamp 3 года назад +169

    Sorry it’s a bit late, time stamps were mad in this one! ;)

    • @sooofancier
      @sooofancier 3 года назад +5

      HeRe bEfOrE t0m thEn LoL

    • @DahleJohannes
      @DahleJohannes 3 года назад +5

      Good work on the time stamps, Tom Stamp

    • @betaich
      @betaich 3 года назад +3

      Tom Stamp doing the Time stamps there is a joke somewhere in there.

    • @tomstamp
      @tomstamp 3 года назад +9

      And the TomNail, and the Tedit haha

    • @gjermundhigraff7789
      @gjermundhigraff7789 3 года назад +1

      @@betaich Time Stamps is the plural of Tom Stamp. Or something like that.

  • @woutercornet5554
    @woutercornet5554 3 года назад +194

    "It is all legal and stock"
    What did Top Gear say again?
    "They are Italians, they just lie"

    • @Talynen
      @Talynen 3 года назад +24

      "Is it high or low? Low? Okay, our emissions is 1!"

    • @monstermirror2
      @monstermirror2 3 года назад +6

      Supervised by Germans but... *cough*

    • @Benjiesperformance
      @Benjiesperformance 3 года назад +4

      Lmfaoo...they not longer Italians! Their germans seeking for revenge against the Americans and associates 🥺🥺🥺🤣🤣🤣

    • @bertuuuuuu
      @bertuuuuuu 3 года назад +3

      we don’t lie, we scream bad words

    • @vipecrx
      @vipecrx 3 года назад +1

      Road legal? Cool, now they'll all be registering their cars in Florida...

  • @iphoie
    @iphoie 3 года назад +118

    You sir are no longer just Robert Mitchell. I shall refer to you from hence forth as Inspector Robert!!! 🔍 🕵️‍♂️

    • @Cowabunga46
      @Cowabunga46 3 года назад +4

      Or Sherlock Mitchell ;-)

    • @einautofan6685
      @einautofan6685 3 года назад +11

      CSI Nordschleife!🤣

    • @Vgk36
      @Vgk36 3 года назад

      Inspector chief to you buddy 😂

  • @martinwgnr
    @martinwgnr 3 года назад +64

    I'll leave the rumour here, that they wanted to give their drivers additional testing kilometres in advance of the 24h race. That's why the car was modified to be as close to a Trofeo as possible without being obviously visually a Trofeo.
    😅

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад +11

      🤣

    • @uraniumcranium2613
      @uraniumcranium2613 3 года назад

      Do you know who the drivers are?

    • @martinwgnr
      @martinwgnr 3 года назад +5

      @@uraniumcranium2613 are you aware I didn't meant this serious? I don't know who the drivers were. That was just a joke

    • @uraniumcranium2613
      @uraniumcranium2613 3 года назад +3

      All good man, you obviously weren't aware that i knew that you weren't being serious, I was just asking a question.

    • @martinwgnr
      @martinwgnr 3 года назад

      @@uraniumcranium2613 😄👍

  • @Frodokeuh
    @Frodokeuh 3 года назад +227

    Lamborghini: quick robert is on vacation lets do a cheating lap.
    Robert: well well well not so fast i have eyes on the ground and i brought my tier one gear with me. xD

    • @TheBongReyes
      @TheBongReyes 3 года назад

      That was my first thought too. Haha

  • @derekwhittle1885
    @derekwhittle1885 3 года назад +177

    I'm glad you released this before Lamborghini claimed a record. You may have saved them a lot of embarrassment.

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад +60

      Many asked why I posted it. I’d rather they know the world sees it before saying something that hurts themselves

    • @seanreynolds3535
      @seanreynolds3535 3 года назад +2

      @@RobertMitchell especially as they're no doubt going to benchmark it to our 620rs.

    • @nicocrinkleburg
      @nicocrinkleburg 3 года назад +41

      @@RobertMitchell “we are announcing a ‘Nurburgring Pack’ as a new factory option. Comes with gurney flaps, aero air dams, lexan windows, trofeo underbody & suspension, and get this, here’s the real kicker, a roll of duct tape.”
      🤣😂
      Edit: 🦆 tape

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад +11

      @@nicocrinkleburg exactly 🤣🤣🤣

    • @jailbreak1227
      @jailbreak1227 3 года назад +4

      I don't even think they would have claimed a record. The car was perfectly modified to essentially replicate the new Super Trofeo race car, without looking like it on the outside. Why would Lamborghini, such a huge brand in the car world, throw away their entire reputation because of a simple lap record that can easily be debunked? It makes zero sense.

  • @LifeofPalos
    @LifeofPalos 3 года назад +459

    Excellent work dude.

    • @badboymorales
      @badboymorales 3 года назад +6

      Tier 1 media only here palos. Lol

    • @btcars
      @btcars 3 года назад +1

      Can't wait to see the video

    • @LifeofPalos
      @LifeofPalos 3 года назад +7

      @@badboymorales UGH SO TRUE.

    • @tylerhartman3327
      @tylerhartman3327 3 года назад +1

      we already know that this is gonna be covered in your video tonight, interested to see your take on this issue now that the video is out

    • @jonasthemovie
      @jonasthemovie 3 года назад +2

      @@southbeach09 Weird introduction, but ok, it was nice to hear a little bit about you.

  • @heeryanus
    @heeryanus 3 года назад +77

    Earlier today, italians claimed that 'The gearbox was inspected thoroughly and proved all fine, Charles Leclerc will start from pole' and we all know how that went

    • @eichler721
      @eichler721 3 года назад +1

      Well the gearbox was fine. They just skipped the connection portion that drives the wheels.

  • @jerrycansmashit9965
    @jerrycansmashit9965 3 года назад +73

    Tier 1 journalism from mr Mitchell let's see what this manufacturer does with this report...fantastic motoring content as always...

    • @thibaultvanrennetvr
      @thibaultvanrennetvr 3 года назад

      has he also reported about the GT2RS record being a mockery ? they did exactly the same, modified the car and used race fuel. Sent the car with 8 technicians and gave the car more power, more camber and many more adjustments just to break lambo's record with the performante.

    • @jerrycansmashit9965
      @jerrycansmashit9965 3 года назад

      @@thibaultvanrennetvr you will find that the record of gt2rs was done way before lambo decided to put cars on track and for your information the car your talking about is the mantey racing gt2rs which is the modified record...

    • @thibaultvanrennetvr
      @thibaultvanrennetvr 3 года назад

      @@jerrycansmashit9965 first the performante did its record lap, then porsche brought the GT2 RS, they upped the HP to 720 to beat it. they also used race fuel, camber tires etc, that are also non standard. I am not talking about Manthey.

  • @JR90.
    @JR90. 3 года назад +36

    Their parent company "changed" vehicles emissions, so nothing would surprise me.

  • @rhabeldibabeldi6812
    @rhabeldibabeldi6812 3 года назад +70

    Everyone talking about some controvers, I´m just sitting there like "damn, that was a nice move!" ( 13:05 the guy on the left stacking the tires )

  • @CCBGroupe
    @CCBGroupe 3 года назад +29

    Man, I wish u were involved with YT and the Nürburgring earlier, to help us see and understand some of the other cars when they were out, lapping the ring in pursuit of record times like gtr, 918, and some others

    • @vipecrx
      @vipecrx 3 года назад +1

      Well, the gtr was debunked at the time.

  • @carlosduarte_CD
    @carlosduarte_CD 3 года назад +32

    Lamborghini forgot that “The Internet” knows and sees everything!

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад +5

      Internet got eyes into he back of its head

    • @carlosduarte_CD
      @carlosduarte_CD 3 года назад +2

      @@RobertMitchell That’s probably a ST...Ohhhh shit, we are screwed!!

    • @sylvandespres7654
      @sylvandespres7654 3 года назад

      the inyternet especially the automotive crowd is sometimes full of it, creating storms in glasses of water so they can look as ',expert''', which they're not at all,at best well informed automobile fans.

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад +3

      @@sylvandespres7654 deep

    • @carlosduarte_CD
      @carlosduarte_CD 3 года назад +2

      @@sylvandespres7654 Storm in a glass of water? They will need a huge glass for this one...

  • @jassi_ahluwalia
    @jassi_ahluwalia 3 года назад +3

    Amazing to see you back Robert! We were missing you since a real long time. And you came back with a big BAANG! 🔥🔥

  • @JoeAchilles1
    @JoeAchilles1 3 года назад +232

    Here we go 🙌

    • @einautofan6685
      @einautofan6685 3 года назад +2

      AMG One for the win! Nuff said!😉😎🤣

    • @CP-vg4vy
      @CP-vg4vy 3 года назад +3

      @@einautofan6685 The black series is enough imo😂 So sad to see Lambo do this, they should take notes from AMG record run.

    • @einautofan6685
      @einautofan6685 3 года назад +1

      @@CP-vg4vy IMO Lamborghini is trying to set a new record lap at the "wrong" time...
      I mean, AMG One is allready testing there too...😉 AMG One will easily outperform Huracan STO!
      But it looks like Lamborghini is trying to cheat again...🙄 Come on, is this necessary, Lamborghini? How naive are they?
      Robert Mitchell from Apex&CSI Nordschleife see's everything!😉🤣

    • @CP-vg4vy
      @CP-vg4vy 3 года назад +1

      @@einautofan6685 When do you think is the right time then? Aren’t they already doomed, we all know STO time isnt gonna get anywhere near AMG One and BS still have some seconds to make up for.

    • @th3b0untyhunter
      @th3b0untyhunter 3 года назад

      @@einautofan6685 is the AMG One considered a production car though ?
      Limited to only 275 units
      Will be hand built on a one by one basis, not on a production line
      Etc etc

  • @warrenfletcher4240
    @warrenfletcher4240 3 года назад +23

    The sto isn't being sold yet I don't think, perhaps these differences are final production stuff or perhaps the one with the differences is a track only model?

    • @lorenzorusso5375
      @lorenzorusso5375 3 года назад

      It’s been sold, some models have been spotted here in Italy

  • @marcnobel3938
    @marcnobel3938 3 года назад +2

    I was so waiting for that Video! Great that it is finally there! Let`s see what happens now.

  • @filippo4425
    @filippo4425 3 года назад +2

    Great video ^^ thanks for doing this!

  • @Stigs722
    @Stigs722 3 года назад +27

    This is a tier 1 analysis

  • @Shifty_Malone
    @Shifty_Malone 3 года назад +12

    Still the best STO spec that I've seen so far. Even if it's not a real STO.

  • @AJpro88
    @AJpro88 3 года назад +30

    all i took from this video is that a black and yellow STO looks so much better than the tacky blue and orange from the press release..

  • @pro12312
    @pro12312 3 года назад +53

    The fact that Lamborghini is owned by Audi owned by vw gives me really some dieselgate vibes here XD

    • @Yizify
      @Yizify 3 года назад +4

      But then so is Porsche and they’re not cheating

    • @vipecrx
      @vipecrx 3 года назад

      @@Yizify they're owned but still separate entities to a point. Donut media made a video on porsche recently, there's some history in there that will help understand the relationship vw-porsche

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 3 года назад

      Forget VAG. This is Wolfgang Dürheimer levels of sneaky-sneaky...

  • @jrchismorie
    @jrchismorie 3 года назад +3

    Always great insight from Robert!

  • @sadidijoshua1423
    @sadidijoshua1423 3 года назад +5

    was already on my way to bed when i saw the notification that Robert had (finally) uploaded some content so guess who's staying up an extra 30 minutes 😹

  • @GeorgieSVK
    @GeorgieSVK 3 года назад

    Great to see you back ! Tier 1 information this is. I watched the videos from the track and I was asking my self some questions too... but this was deep. Honesty is number one. Thx, love.

  • @franciscomarchese4290
    @franciscomarchese4290 3 года назад +1

    Love the youtube tier 1 press, ´ve been a really big fan of your insights and review Robert, for sure one of my favorite channels ;)

  • @hamzasherazi9334
    @hamzasherazi9334 3 года назад +3

    Robert back again with another banger. You have done a great job identifying all of this possible "trickery". As a lambo fanboy I do hope that they have a logical explanation to counter all of these points. The STO does mean 'Super Trofeo Omologato'.
    Btw watching this late as a way of protesting for the lack of activity on the channel.

  • @vladbibea5676
    @vladbibea5676 3 года назад +31

    My respect for you cannot be measured. Please keep going Robert, the internet needs you!

    • @mrmeowchow85
      @mrmeowchow85 3 года назад +4

      Couldn't agree more, the internet most definitely does need him.

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад +8

      Thank you guys ❤️🤣

  • @Kimofil
    @Kimofil 3 года назад +1

    Great analysis as always Robert! It always nice to watch you videos no matter the topic.

  • @KostasAlbanidis
    @KostasAlbanidis 3 года назад

    Awesome analysis !! Congrats!
    Thank you for the comprehensive information!

  • @OldManRoo
    @OldManRoo 3 года назад +8

    I have no doubt about your observations, Robert. It's just up to Lamborghini to explain what they were doing.

  • @rodneyyy95
    @rodneyyy95 3 года назад +19

    It's been a while, but it's good to see you back again Robert!

  • @teabaggins3517
    @teabaggins3517 3 года назад

    The only youtube channel I watch these days. Great content and I like the calm vibe of your videos with no bullshit.

  • @DontPanicDear
    @DontPanicDear 3 года назад +1

    Nice to have you back 👍🏻

  • @donburton5058
    @donburton5058 3 года назад +17

    "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." Oscar Wilde. Is the market that competitive?

  • @ericpisch2732
    @ericpisch2732 3 года назад +7

    I can’t wait to see how many different laps they edit together to make the perfect lap like last time

    • @AB-80X
      @AB-80X 3 года назад

      I'm sure Misha will do his best to let us know lol.

  • @MattFFM
    @MattFFM 3 года назад +2

    Nice to see you back!

  • @SKODA20V
    @SKODA20V 3 года назад

    This is an awesome Video well done Robert for the in depth content and scenarios on why they would do this - great content.

  • @scottmuir2385
    @scottmuir2385 3 года назад +10

    We have missed you Robert!

  • @andrelakay4750
    @andrelakay4750 3 года назад +16

    Hi Robert. Was waiting on this video. Well spoken, waiting on Lamborghini, s next move. Well done sir.

  • @mrmeowchow85
    @mrmeowchow85 3 года назад

    Stella work yet again Robert. I love we now have someone like yourself with a platform like RUclips to stand up and call manufacturers like this out.

  • @seanreynolds3535
    @seanreynolds3535 3 года назад +1

    Best video I think I've seen you make. Bravo. Of particular interest as no doubt they'll be comparing it to our 620r's. Insane how it seems every single aspect has been significantly modified rendering the time nonsense.

  • @thugnasty8400
    @thugnasty8400 3 года назад +5

    Great analysis, I would have not caught that. Could you also analyze the Performante lap record from back in the day. I remember people said it was sus but I never thought anything of it until now. I hope it's genuine and not like this run where we don't know what's being tested.

  • @randomperson1614
    @randomperson1614 3 года назад +6

    Lamborghini loves special editions. This could be a new version where they remove more stuff like the motors for the window, race fuel etc and charge an extra 100,000 euros.

  • @stephenmccartney7036
    @stephenmccartney7036 3 года назад

    Spot on video Robert and brilliant point to point explanations. Excellent 👍🏼

  • @mrc8086
    @mrc8086 3 года назад +1

    Welcome to Florida... weather is great right now! As always great video and good eye!

  • @nmlt
    @nmlt 3 года назад +7

    Excellent investigative journalism! #TierExclusive

  • @connorleeduckworth8952
    @connorleeduckworth8952 3 года назад +4

    “The Friday special” 😂

  • @jahyoda
    @jahyoda 3 года назад +1

    Dude !!! Very Happy to see you 😊

  • @johnrafferty7972
    @johnrafferty7972 3 года назад +1

    Wow wow wow. Our whole office came to a standstill watching this video just now! I can only imagine the head scratching going on at Lamborghini HQ right now lol.
    Really great stuff again Mr Mitchell!

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад

      Thank you John!! Sorry for the pause in productivity there

  • @fogdood6868
    @fogdood6868 3 года назад +3

    Those trees behind you are so nice. What a nice place to be in.

    • @Shawn-ne6ld
      @Shawn-ne6ld 3 года назад

      Florida Palms💯🇺🇸

  • @tommygearhart4651
    @tommygearhart4651 3 года назад +3

    I have a 2011 997.2 C4S. I’ve locked the breaks on that car before. It has fully functional ABS, but there is a point when decelerating very quickly where even with abs the momentum of the car is still stronger than the ability of the abs to keep the wheels turning when I’m standing on the brake pedal. I love all your points, and maybe 10 year newer abs systems have improved even further, but I have experienced brake lock up on a passenger car with ABS.

    • @MartlRS
      @MartlRS 3 года назад +1

      Had it too with ABS cars.

    • @jjvega1998
      @jjvega1998 3 года назад +1

      In my experience, braking cars with ABS results in quick cycling of the braking pressure as the system tries to find the optimal brake point, what I mean by this is the brakes lock up for a short period of time, then the pressure is reduced, then increased again until it locks up, resulting in rapid multiple lock ups, unlike the warm up video where the brakes are locked up consistently, I don't know if your experience was different but I believe that real ABS would have resulted in multiple puffs of smoke rather than a longer one.

    • @tommygearhart4651
      @tommygearhart4651 3 года назад

      @@jjvega1998 That makes sense, unless like me, the driver feels the lock up and lets off the pedal, and then presses down again. I'm just not good at trusting the system when I feel the lock.

  • @davidndhlovu2011
    @davidndhlovu2011 3 года назад +1

    Robert, I really appreciate your content, both in terms of intelligence, and consistency. Thank you.

  • @ezekielvasquez7748
    @ezekielvasquez7748 3 года назад +1

    I freaking love you Robert! Bro you are awesome! I'm so glad you were willing to do these videos. Your content is fantastic and even though I haven't watched in a little bit I love that when I have time to watch when I get stuff like this as well as the other great content. Keep raising questions keep giving us information keep giving us your viewpoints and if companies and people need to be called out for lying or try to fool people and you're willing to come out please do so :-) LOL you and your family be blessed!

    • @sooofancier
      @sooofancier 3 года назад

      Maybe He is a ghost, short-shifter... but we all love him!
      Viv' La ROBERT!

  • @Samson44444
    @Samson44444 3 года назад +4

    Lamborghini 🤝 sketchy lap times. Name a more iconic duo

  • @rafifyaristyan8311
    @rafifyaristyan8311 3 года назад +4

    Lamborghini has definitely been caught in 4K hahaha

  • @mister944
    @mister944 3 года назад +1

    Very thorough review on this issue. Good work keep it up.
    I wish I could travel some place with palm trees. 🇨🇦

  • @th3b0untyhunter
    @th3b0untyhunter 3 года назад +1

    Very good Clouseau, the thing is though they could well have been simply trying to test and benchmark something similar to a Weissach Pack or even looking to see what modifications do what on the laptime.
    As you rightly point out the visible changes are clear for all to see - especially the gurney flap and lexan windows.
    This makes it impossible for them to have ever claimed this as a production car record so your video whilst clever and accurate in many ways is also presumptive and a shot in the dark.

  • @simonjones7924
    @simonjones7924 3 года назад +4

    I’m going with Lamborghini valuing the marketing hype of a Nurburgring lap record, and therefore doing some R&D into what it would take in terms of modifications and cost to produce an ultra limited run STO ‘evo’ to go after a record.

  • @markhodge7
    @markhodge7 3 года назад +3

    Robert pulls on Superman's cape :)

  • @ebinsuncle
    @ebinsuncle 3 года назад +1

    It’ll be interesting to see what happens next with this story. Great information as usual... thank you

  • @mateobratic9134
    @mateobratic9134 3 года назад +1

    Been waiting for this!

  • @msing400
    @msing400 3 года назад +15

    As an engineer we often test “production” model to identify possible improvements or a limited addition higher performance variant. I would give them the benefit of the doubt in this case simply because you don’t know the purpose of the session.

    • @lukashoppmann7292
      @lukashoppmann7292 3 года назад +5

      But a Timing session (where the STnO was run) means spending much more money for being able to do the same things as in industry pool if you just want to test something. Since I don't belive a multi billion dollar company is likely to basically burn money for absolutely no reason - I'd suggest they used the Friday session for a lap record attempt.

    • @cutdepiefails6596
      @cutdepiefails6596 3 года назад +1

      But again it was a time session, for records, you can test & try potential improvements on industry pool without any need to do a record lap, plus you don't even need the nurburgring to trial, nurburgring usually is for final version testing or suspension testing, but then again in the industry pool not in time record slots.

  • @LearningFast
    @LearningFast 3 года назад +3

    Great video. However, there could be a benefit to race fuel without changing the mapping. Knock is almost directly dependent on intake temperatures. If your intake temperatures are unusually high then the stock engine might begin to knock at its limits.
    They could have used the race fuel to make sure that the stock engine hit its absolute limits even if temperatures were very high.
    Do you know if it was a warm or cold day there?
    This still would be considered a “modification” but it is possible that they saw a benefit from race gas without changing the map of the car.

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад +2

      It was a cool day. Not warm in Germany yet :-)

  • @elianselmi4099
    @elianselmi4099 3 года назад

    Excellent video & explanation Robert! You bring up some very interesting points and valid based on the video evidence... It will be interesting to see what Lamborghini shares about this. I dont see an issue if they claim some sort of record for a modified car, but it will be an issue for an OEM stock car... thanks again for this excellent video. We'll have to wait and see what Lamborghini releases :-) Enjoy your time in FL

  • @DriveSMR
    @DriveSMR 3 года назад +1

    Oh YaY! Hey Robert; been waiting for this

  • @Dan_AYP
    @Dan_AYP 3 года назад +26

    I saw a laptop, a 102 octane fuel and alot more aero than the photographed car claimed to be the sto

    • @Scuderia2000HD
      @Scuderia2000HD 3 года назад +1

      I think in some parts of Europe 102 octane fuel is sold at the pump, but not many. Here in the UK 99 is the highest I know of that is sold at the pump. But the other changes are certainly misleading if the car does end up taking the record!

    • @Dan_AYP
      @Dan_AYP 3 года назад +8

      @@Scuderia2000HD yeah mate but if you make a production car that only runs 102 and only 1 pump in the UK offers ot (bp near silverstone) you're not providing a time the production car can do in normal circumstances rather. What it can do with a race team and bespoke fuel for the test... it makes the point(to be the quickest car you can buy) of the timed lap irrelevant

    • @Scuderia2000HD
      @Scuderia2000HD 3 года назад +1

      @@Dan_AYP yes exactly, I wonder how many of the lap record cars have been running 102 octane fuel, my guess is quite a few if not all in recent years!

    • @tommihommi1
      @tommihommi1 3 года назад

      well in the US you can buy E85 at some gas stations

    • @Dan_AYP
      @Dan_AYP 3 года назад +1

      @@Scuderia2000HD makes me sad... I kinda wish homologation specials were all that could race if its based on a road car... more things like the group b cars and things like the yaris gr would be alot more plentiful. Like if nascar was still a stock car race based on the production models, they'd be so much more advanced for performance cars and we'd have a huge split between economy cars and performance oriented cars

  • @Stigs722
    @Stigs722 3 года назад +7

    Robert: “yo Lamborghini you’re cheating”
    Lamborghini: “copy we are checking. Slow button on”.

  • @mattiparviainen607
    @mattiparviainen607 3 года назад +1

    Great one again, Robert + nice location you have got :)

  • @norrekaka3ks1
    @norrekaka3ks1 3 года назад

    Glad to see you back @Robert

  • @boprendergast2432
    @boprendergast2432 3 года назад +9

    They probably was going to try to pass it on until you call everything poor Lamborghini

  • @miguelbermudez4886
    @miguelbermudez4886 3 года назад +23

    When they release the time of the aventador svj, I dindt trust then. Unless there is independent people like Robert. Nice video.

    • @saheel1850
      @saheel1850 3 года назад +2

      Pretty sure they used an SVJ with a stripped interior and roll cage for their record

    • @miguelbermudez4886
      @miguelbermudez4886 3 года назад +2

      Diferentes suspension, brakes aerodynamics.............

    • @saheel1850
      @saheel1850 3 года назад

      @@miguelbermudez4886 yeah it’s fucked up

    • @FastTeam11
      @FastTeam11 3 года назад +3

      The Performante time was infamously sketchy and now this. I always thought the SVJ time was kind of unrealistic having in mind, that Aventadors always were pretty shitty track cars (very underwhelming in other track-tests on yt) and what a beast the GT2 RS is.

  • @kings3803
    @kings3803 3 года назад +2

    Been waiting for this one.

  • @Clarkyclarke1
    @Clarkyclarke1 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for doing this Robert. Legend!👌🏻🤟🏻

  • @ChefTamable
    @ChefTamable 3 года назад +20

    You need to disect UFO videos. 😂

    • @anotherpointlessvideo3654
      @anotherpointlessvideo3654 3 года назад +3

      UFOs and UAPs are Lambo STOs all taped up and using Lexan to save weight. Presumably ABS was tweaked to allow them to do those crazy turns in flight

  • @sooofancier
    @sooofancier 3 года назад +5

    Robert...
    I was not expecting you would make a video🤣🤣😂
    And even though, i am NOT here before you, im still here before Misha and Tim. Lol

  • @antares_racing
    @antares_racing 3 года назад

    Hats off to fact-based calling out of BS. Lamborghini’s made a mockery of lap videos before. If they can’t do an honest lap and again, there’s no point in heeding anything they publish.
    Good work. BRAVO Rob.

  • @KrisFLton
    @KrisFLton 3 года назад +1

    You are now officially the Columbo of the Nurburgring 😂 Top job. Very interesting too.

  • @marcnobel3938
    @marcnobel3938 3 года назад +8

    Telefon Rings
    "Yes! Hello! Stephan Winkelmann here!"
    -Silence-
    "Hello? Stephan Winkelmann here!"
    At the other End:
    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA - You will never get a real lap together! HA HA HA ...
    "Andreas? Andreas Preuninger? Is that you?
    - Beeeeeeppppp-
    Telefon Rings again
    "Andreas! Stop it!"
    "Andreas who? Philipp Schiemer here from AMG!"
    "How can I help you?"
    "Just wanted to know if we can share the session next week. We want to do a dry lap with the GTR Black for fun and ..."
    - Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeepppp

  • @DontPanicDear
    @DontPanicDear 3 года назад +5

    I’m just waiting for Motor Trend to cover the story 🤓

  • @cyrusfarzin389
    @cyrusfarzin389 2 года назад +1

    This video might be the reason why we never saw any NRING times for the STO. Nice work, Robert!

  • @MegaSturrup
    @MegaSturrup 3 года назад +2

    Robert Mitchell you have an attention to detail second to none… I thought perhaps the car not being fully painted like a road going car would be was one of them but I was way off maybe haha

  • @raulouros7545
    @raulouros7545 3 года назад +8

    #TierOne analysis of sketchy record attempts
    did anyone had a close look at the tires?
    I think we could call this the STO DT edition with all that duct tape

  • @jackmandallwilson
    @jackmandallwilson 3 года назад +3

    Probably because the Perf lap was so obviously a mess; best parts of the lap stitched together, and sped up in places, etc.
    They have to go flat out this time to make it look like the STO is worth it.

  • @Cowabunga46
    @Cowabunga46 3 года назад

    Brilliant deduction, Watson!
    As a non car expert i would have never thought of these details

  • @heidelbergaren5054
    @heidelbergaren5054 3 года назад +2

    Finally, I’ve been updating to find this

  • @gabrielsanchex
    @gabrielsanchex 3 года назад +4

    Lamborghini could pull a fast one and sell the differences as "options" or a "super trofeo/track pack"

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад +5

      They should. Now that they know what we know they can make all the moves they need to save face and I’m GOOD w that

    • @sylvandespres7654
      @sylvandespres7654 3 года назад

      yeah lol. the option pack would be a lexan panel,some stashe for the rear wing,and a drum of 102 octane fuel which you can find at any racetracks LOL

  • @swanblake
    @swanblake 3 года назад +3

    Personally I would have waited until they do set a lap time and see what they used. I think this might be a lot about nothing. Have faith Robert. Call them out when it actually occurs and not when everything is unofficial

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад +12

      I’d rather point it out now so they don’t claim a lap time and then we call them out for BS. I’d rather see them do NOTHING and not try to deceive us. I don’t want to call out A lie I’d rather see one doesn’t get made. Looks better for Lambo this way vs sitting and waiting for claims and debunking them. That’s sort of entrapment

  • @jopa030
    @jopa030 3 года назад

    This was a real treat before bed time! Cheers Robert!

  • @timberlinecline3667
    @timberlinecline3667 3 года назад +3

    Welcome back now do what you do best and make Lamborghini understand that nobody is invincible when it comes to cheating

  • @benrogers8315
    @benrogers8315 3 года назад +3

    Use the spec to open a new Skunkworks class to all Manufacturers and see what the rest can do. Be good to see Ferrari's effort.

  • @stijnsap1258
    @stijnsap1258 3 года назад +2

    Great work, I love watching your content and this video is no exception. The only way Lamborghini can work its way out of this situation that I can think of is by releasing the heavily-modified-car to the world and dealerships as a modified (track only?) version of the STO and just claim 'yeahhh we wanted to release this version all along'.
    Edit: typos

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад +1

      Another way out is that they just don’t claim a record time at all from this session. Come back w a stock car or don’t use a ring time at all

  • @kenobi5032
    @kenobi5032 3 года назад

    Good to see you back.

  • @TowPiglet
    @TowPiglet 3 года назад +5

    Could they sell this as an optional package?

    • @micros95
      @micros95 3 года назад

      Yes they could, look at other manufacturer. But i'm not shure if this still would count as a stock car even with parts from Lamborghini.

    • @th3b0untyhunter
      @th3b0untyhunter 3 года назад +2

      Yes, Porsche for example offer a Weissach pack for GT2 RS and GT3 RS and they are considered stock cars

    • @drepark2294
      @drepark2294 3 года назад +2

      @@th3b0untyhunter they won’t meet road car safety standards etc.

    • @nickholbrook3454
      @nickholbrook3454 3 года назад

      @@drepark2294 and you know this how?
      Gurney Flaps
      Sealed vents
      Lexan windows
      Are all things that other manufacturers offer from time to time

    • @drepark2294
      @drepark2294 3 года назад +4

      @@nickholbrook3454 lmaoooo, he literally bender the window in, do you really think that will pass safety standards, LOL use your brain. It’s okay to be a lambo fan but they are massive cheaters.

  • @captain_context9991
    @captain_context9991 3 года назад +3

    As for the legitimacy of the SSC... This thing where people say its not a "production car" because they haven't made 20, 50, 100 units... Is a total internet myth. Got nothing to do with the road legality of the vehicle. If you make a kit-car in your own garage, its a kit-car. Even if you make 50 of them. What makes the SSC Tuatara NOT a production car is that they have never done the steps... No crash testing, no emissions, no "federalisation" of any kind. And that's OK in the US. There are many ways to get numberplates on anything. Register it as a kit-car, or... As Hennessey and SSC does, Also SCG. Cameroon Glickenhaus, register it with show & display numberplates. Then its road legal only to drive to a car show and back home from a car show. But, hey... Its America so who cares. But in doing so, they are doing themselves a huge disservice in not going all-in and not ever establishing a lasting, real supercar brand that can stand alongside the big names. If you're not on public record as a production car should be, then you are not a production car.
    As for this thing... It looks like a raced-up development car. And that's... No good if they want to use it to set records. I don't mind a bit of tape or other minor tweaks. I mean... Any customer could do that themselves for a track day if it really makes a difference. As for tweaks and mods... Corvette ZR1 and Cadillac did that. After the 2008 US car collapse, Obama told them to be "internationally competitive" to deserve the 100 billion dollar bailout packages. So off they went to the Nurburgring to claim woooorld records. But the cars were as "showroom stock" as Lance Armstrong at Tour d France. The very few pictures that exist of those events show stripped-out development cars full of wires and computers. With racing harnesses and a bunch of visible mods. And like you say. Why would it have stopped there. They werent showroom cars at all. I seriously hope Lambo is above this.
    But also... Back in the day, anyone could get away with anything. You rented the track, everybody went home, nobody cared. But today. Isnt there a Nurburgring governing body that is supposed to take care of these events and make sure the cars are within limits?

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад

      You are correct. There were many examples of what people didn’t like about ssc having the world record. Homolgation federally was only one of them.
      The Nürburgring is going to have to step up and validate the authenticity of these cars for sure

    • @captain_context9991
      @captain_context9991 3 года назад

      @@RobertMitchell
      I thought there was already a sort of governing body on the Ring that did that. I have seen somebody talk about it in a RUclips video. Some crazy Russian called Misha Charoudin or something. You may have heard of him.
      Which I thought was a good idea. To preserve health & safety as well as the Rings reputation.

    • @RobertMitchell
      @RobertMitchell  3 года назад

      @@captain_context9991 I think everyone was under the impression that their control was a little bit better than it is

    • @captain_context9991
      @captain_context9991 3 года назад

      @@RobertMitchell
      MMmm I see. Well... Lets wait and see what happens.

    • @captain_context9991
      @captain_context9991 3 года назад

      ​@@RobertMitchell
      SO... Lamborghini has just released pictures of a Huracán Super Trofeo EVO2. And except for different front panels, its very similar to the car you guys have spotted. Essentially it’s the car that’ll be used in Lamborghini’s three continental one-make race series from 2022 onwards.
      So the car you have seen is probably the development mule for the 2022 Super Trofeo program.

  • @bneexotics2120
    @bneexotics2120 3 года назад

    Great analysis Robert, will be interesting to see what happens from here

  • @markgeddes4411
    @markgeddes4411 3 года назад

    This man is a Legend, the way you go on is mesmorizing. Great work