“you’re turning against your own blood like this mija ? i blame archie” i’m sorry that’s so funny 😭 he hates archie so much he blames him for literally everything
And then Hiram is STILL convinced Archie is to blame. When will this show explore the fact that Hiram has a bigger crush on Archie than anyone else in this town?? 🤣🤣
I randomly decided to watch seasons 4 and 5 the last few days, was almost constantly fastforwarding and questioning why I was forcing myself to sit through such torture. And now I have two days that I will never get back because I wasted it on garbage.
EXACTLYYYYYY!!!!!!!! like omgg sir....you are literally fighting with your daughter for WHAT reason????? I hope he's next on the murder list this season bc my GAWD that man piss me off!
Even if Hiram is a horrible person/father, I kinda pity him in this situation. Can you imagine having your kid and a bunch of other people pointing guns at you and forcing you to leave town with absolutely nothing? Not to mention it’s the last time you’ll ever see your kid too. That’s both heartbreaking and humiliating. Plus the way he stops and turns around to look at them is sad too, like he’s getting one last look at his daughter before he leaves her forever, knowing she hates him and won’t ever wanna see him again too. I swear life is messy. 🎻
Yes it is very sad that Hiram realized his daughter doesn't love him anymore and would even point a gun at his head. He may have been a horrible father, but he still valued his daughter in spite of this and even protected her many times. It's a shame their relationship had to end like this🥺
Honestly Veronica is pretty brave for finally standing up to her father everyone is blaming her for being weak but how do u call a woman who took down 3 men in order to save herself weak. Veronica is one of the strongest ppl on the show who just a complicated relationship with her dad. She was young and in her teen years and he emotionally manipulated her for so long yet she’s the one to be blamed. Now that she is an adult she found more power in herself to actually get rid of him once and for all. Her bravery should be applauded instead of looked down on. If Betty did this y’all would be praising her but I haven’t seen Betty ever properly take down someone like Veronica and Cheryl have.
Yes but Betty already gets a lot of credit I haven’t ever seen or read someone actually acknowledge the fact Veronica was able to take down a serial killer in one night while it took Betty a whole season. I don’t wanna compare them but just pointing it out
I actually feel bad for him from episode 12 :( we kinda learned more about his tragic childhood and honestly I feel bad. however, he can only blame himself for everything
His childhood doesn't excuse what he did. When it comes to healing your trauma, you don't go around killing innocent people or use them for personal gain or worse. You seek HELP. and it's clear that he's WAYYY beyond it at this point.
@@heyimjames5566 But Vito wasn't innocent. He was an even worse mobster than Hiram ever was, had Hiram's father killed and was responsible for corrupting Hiram into the man he is today. He deserved to be killed by Hiram for everything he had done in the past. And yet nobody sympathized with Hiram for what Vito did to him and they even used Vito's death against him. Veronica should have understood Hiram's intentions when he killed Vito since that man took her grandfather away
@@nadimabbas4093 Again, not an excuse. yeah, what he experienced, absolutely horrible. But as an adult he had an option. He made a choice to not only use innocent teenagers for his sick and twisted plans, but he attacked people who never wanted anything to do with him or had nothing to do with him at all.
This is the ultimate demise of Hiram Lodge. After five years, his reign of terror on Riverdale is finally over. He's at least lucky the town showed him mercy since exile is better than either prison or death so he still gets to live the rest of his life out in peace
This scene is so fucking cool and Veronica is so strong and a big bad bitch, the scene literally gives me chills HOWEVER Veronica needs to stop calling Hiram daddy ASAP
Shut up she is allowed to call her father daddy I bet you call your father daddy all the time it not a problem or you don't have a father or daddy do you
He's a well known rich man in Riverdale with a lot of connections. all he has to do is put up a fat stack of cash and he has people eating out of the palm of his hand. it's horrible!!
I tried looking up when Archie smacks the drink out of his hand and smashed his head on the table to be handcuffed!!! When I saw that........... Ooh man!!!!
@happy baby uhh she's never flip flopped. And if you watched previous seasons she's TRIED to get him in jail and she succeeded but thanks to his filthy connections it didn't last very long. Plus, she's tried to be civil and cordial with him but he always has to have a reason to be vindictive and cruel towards her and anyone she's close with. So in my opinion, I think this is his karma. He's gotten away with too much for too damn long.
@happy baby She never threw him in prison because he was sick or manipulated anyone. And if anything HIRAM is the flipflop. He's all "i love my daughter" one day and then "I hate my daughter and her friends" the next. Everyone goes along with her because they've all experienced hiram and know how eveil he is. Veronica is a product of her environment and upbringing. And you wanna talk about manipulation, Hiram used an innocent student to do his dirty work, and literally fucked his wife into getting back with him just so he could have leverage again and "fix" his emotionally abusive marriage. And if we're being completely honest here, it seems like you're a little bit in favor of him. You say that she's manipulative and that she "pushed" her way into the family business. She started her own business after she got herself back together and made her own way while hiram was still coming up with another attack against her and Archie. He used people for his own dirty games and you think SHE'S manipulative?? No. If anyone manipulative and flipflopy it's Hiram.
@happy baby ok i honestly don't understand the beginning and middle of what you said but to further re-explain my point, he's been horrible to EVERYONE. Veronica included!! And of coure she'd stop everything to see about her sick father. Anybody would. That doesn't make her a flipflopper. And she bought Pop's because he wasn't financially stable enough to keep it going anymore. So Veronica stepped in and bought it. Also, who's the one who keeps continuing this cycle of vindictiveness?? HER FATHER!!! Need i remind you, she's gone to mother MULTIPLE TIMES about the things that he's done to her. Yeah, Veronica may be flawed and not easy to deal with, but I tell you NOTHING she did is even comparable to eternal list of things that she's had to endure. And anytime she went along with her family is because she was forced to!! If she didn't go along with, he'd do what always does. Attack everyone she's involved with. That's how he gets her to do what he wants! by hitting her where he knows it hurts: Her friends. And again i reiterate, THEY GO ALONG WITH HER WILLINGLY. She doesn't hold a gun to their head, blackmail them, they help her because as i said before, they know how evil hiram is and have experienced it firsthand.
@happy baby You had no idea how manipulation works and it shows. Hiram is her father, and while some are capable of cuting ties with their toxic parents, a lot more aren't. Although they're hurting their child and everyone close to them, the said child is not able to leave their parent's side because at the end of the day, it's still their parent and no matter how bad of a human being said parent is, there's always still some good memories and love left because want it or not but every child is loving their parent and craving their love. Veronica loved her father and first craved his love and attention - she said so herself in 5x17. Hiram let her believe that after years she finally got noticed by him only to find out she was manipulated and used by him all along. But he's still a father, someone who used to be one of the most precious people in her life, so Veronica believed he would change and remembering how loving he could be when she was a kid, she gave him another chance, then he got sick and it's more than understandable that she forgot all about his wrongdoings because she feared Hiram is going to die. It's her father after all and although he had hurt her, she still cared for him. That's a typical toxic relationship between a manipulator, in this case Hiram, and his victim. It's even more complicated if the abuser is a parent and a victim is a child, a minor. And you are really out there blaming a victim for being used and manipulated by one of the most important people in her life? Are you nuts? Or are you just typical barchie fan who's looking for a reason to hate on Veronica and prove how she's not worthy of Archie? Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.
@@tristancadwell786 Who cares? Archie is a meathead. Hiram wants more for his daughter. Because he actually loves her, unlike her, who keeps blaming him for everything she is herself. And what his wealth and power brought to her. She’s just pathetic.
@@mightybitchy No Hiram said he wishes he had a son instead of a daughter when V was 14 YOU DON'T SAY THOSE THINGS. Hiram is a horrible father. He ruined everyone lives.
I don't see how any of this is an overreaction. He literally bought a prison so he could use it as a drug lab, hired a teenage boy as muscle for hire and tried to have him killed on multiple occasions, funded an illegal gang of thieves, drug dealers and violent hoodlums, treated his wife like crap, emotionally manipulated his daughters, deconstructed a township for a payday, murdered dozens of people and then BOMBED A HOUSE. That's just to name a few of the terrible things he's done. Hiram isn't just a mobster king pin anymore, he's a literal TERRORIST. So no, it wasn't an overreaction. In fact, given that he planted a bomb in Archie's house and chose to detonate it AFTER he was exiled, I'd say it was too lenient a punishment. Veronica should have shot him right between the eyes and been done with it right then and there.
@@mightybitchy Y’all hate on Archie for everything. He’s actually trying to make Riverdale better unlike Hiram. He’s done so much good shit for people but all y’all can say about him is that he’s a meathead. Hiram doesn’t love Veronica. He told her he wanted a son bozo. Hiram is a little bitch. Hiram is the worst character and y’all think just because he stood up for Ronnie once, that means he loves her. Y’all are such weirdos.🤣
His former boss "Vito", who is a notorious gangster in the 90s. When Hiram (formerly known as Jaime Luna)'s dad Javier Luna threatened Vito to go to the police if he didn't leave his son alone, Vito ordered his execution. For years, Vito remained out of sight after Hiram murdered members of his gang, until he was finally killed by Hiram to avenge his father.
No more Hiriam; even he is banished from Riverdale
You can’t dodge the Lodge! He will return! 😂😂😂😂
“you’re turning against your own blood like this mija ? i blame archie” i’m sorry that’s so funny 😭 he hates archie so much he blames him for literally everything
I mean I would too
@@alicehanna2285 does Betty know Jughead has move on from her ???.
@@michellelohde8683 have you seen the season 6 trailer?
I mean he literally turned against his own blood
He’s a hypocrite since he’s threatened Veronica multiple times in the show
And then Hiram is STILL convinced Archie is to blame.
When will this show explore the fact that Hiram has a bigger crush on Archie than anyone else in this town?? 🤣🤣
“You’re turning against your own blood like this Mija? I blame Archie.” 😂
I would too!
@@alicehanna2285 does Betty know Jughead has new girlfriend ????.
@@michellelohde8683 yeah she saw them together at the beginning of this episode
@@lousystudioproductions1175 how she feels about it ???.
@@michellelohde8683 she didn’t care at all she was just focused on Archie lol
Jesus, Veronica uses the word “Daddy” waaayyy too much.
She likes her daddy, she's s daddys girl
She’s such a cliché.
It is in line with the comics 🤷🏽♀️
Its to make a point, after all he is her father and he used that against her for so long now she's throwing it in his face
Veronica says daddy a lot in the Archie comic books
Im still amazed people get excited for this show
People like me!😃
It got worst dramatically storyline makes no sense anymore
I randomly decided to watch seasons 4 and 5 the last few days, was almost constantly fastforwarding and questioning why I was forcing myself to sit through such torture. And now I have two days that I will never get back because I wasted it on garbage.
Gosh it got bad after season 3
They pulled up on him like Avengers 🤣🤣🤣
1:18 funny how he talks about turning on blood when he’s blackmailed Veronica many times even threatening her as well
EXACTLYYYYYY!!!!!!!! like omgg sir....you are literally fighting with your daughter for WHAT reason????? I hope he's next on the murder list this season bc my GAWD that man piss me off!
“I blame Archie”
Archie: 😂
Even if Hiram is a horrible person/father, I kinda pity him in this situation. Can you imagine having your kid and a bunch of other people pointing guns at you and forcing you to leave town with absolutely nothing? Not to mention it’s the last time you’ll ever see your kid too. That’s both heartbreaking and humiliating.
Plus the way he stops and turns around to look at them is sad too, like he’s getting one last look at his daughter before he leaves her forever, knowing she hates him and won’t ever wanna see him again too. I swear life is messy. 🎻
He deserves it
Yeah you know what he had a dozen chances to turn this around and he fbleep that up so fubeep him
It’s hard to feel like that when he ruined so many peoples lives.Framing innocent people, almost got somebody beat to death, a master manipulator. Eh
Yes it is very sad that Hiram realized his daughter doesn't love him anymore and would even point a gun at his head. He may have been a horrible father, but he still valued his daughter in spite of this and even protected her many times. It's a shame their relationship had to end like this🥺
then you’re an enabler
Honestly Veronica is pretty brave for finally standing up to her father everyone is blaming her for being weak but how do u call a woman who took down 3 men in order to save herself weak. Veronica is one of the strongest ppl on the show who just a complicated relationship with her dad. She was young and in her teen years and he emotionally manipulated her for so long yet she’s the one to be blamed. Now that she is an adult she found more power in herself to actually get rid of him once and for all. Her bravery should be applauded instead of looked down on. If Betty did this y’all would be praising her but I haven’t seen Betty ever properly take down someone like Veronica and Cheryl have.
Well lets give betty some credit. she helped take down that monstrous cult, and helped expose one of the biggest University mysteries in Riverdale.
Yes but Betty already gets a lot of credit I haven’t ever seen or read someone actually acknowledge the fact Veronica was able to take down a serial killer in one night while it took Betty a whole season. I don’t wanna compare them but just pointing it out
@@heyimjames5566 Actually, Stonewall Prep was a prep school with a dangerous and manipulative reputation
A men like hiram is a risk to leave him alive! Leave one wolf alive, the sheep are never safe. (Game of Thrones phrase)
I actually feel bad for him from episode 12 :( we kinda learned more about his tragic childhood and honestly I feel bad. however, he can only blame himself for everything
His childhood doesn't excuse what he did. When it comes to healing your trauma, you don't go around killing innocent people or use them for personal gain or worse. You seek HELP. and it's clear that he's WAYYY beyond it at this point.
@@heyimjames5566 But Vito wasn't innocent. He was an even worse mobster than Hiram ever was, had Hiram's father killed and was responsible for corrupting Hiram into the man he is today. He deserved to be killed by Hiram for everything he had done in the past. And yet nobody sympathized with Hiram for what Vito did to him and they even used Vito's death against him. Veronica should have understood Hiram's intentions when he killed Vito since that man took her grandfather away
@@nadimabbas4093 Again, not an excuse. yeah, what he experienced, absolutely horrible. But as an adult he had an option. He made a choice to not only use innocent teenagers for his sick and twisted plans, but he attacked people who never wanted anything to do with him or had nothing to do with him at all.
I'm pretty sure you knew this man wasn't gonna just leave that easy without going out with a bang
Hiram made the show interesting
He walking like a gta character
The music at 1:53 gets me every time. The transition is so good
name?
Badass Alice is back and ooh can’t wait for fralice
Who is Flalice?
@@chrisalexdavis fp and Alice i think
@@lashawnthomas6680 Frank and Alice there might be something there
@@lashawnthomas6680 fp and Alice are falice but what I’m talking about is frank and Alice aka fralice
Boom shakalaka laka everyone in Riverdale has completely banned Hiram Lodge from Riverdale forever
👍👍👍😁😁😁
‘What is this a public executioner, what are you my executioners’ god the writers just don’t care anymore huh? 😂
Look. Season 4 was weak, but season 5 said, “We’re sorry! Don’t worry. We got you 😉.” I love Riverdale. Jug is the plug!
“It’s not an execution. It’s an exile”.
Points gun at him.
Obviously not going to use it then 🙄🤷♂️😂🤦♂️
I’ve waited 5 seasons for This
1:25 so there's no point blaming archie this time.
Just watched. Possibly the best or more satisfactory scene in the show
i love how everyone gangs up against him. when they all ready their weapons at 2:02 SO COOL
This is the ultimate demise of Hiram Lodge. After five years, his reign of terror on Riverdale is finally over. He's at least lucky the town showed him mercy since exile is better than either prison or death so he still gets to live the rest of his life out in peace
I think it was actually 10 years
aaaand now i remember why i stopped watching this shit like pls- 🤭😭
Omg this is hilarious
"i blame archie"
This scene is so fucking cool and Veronica is so strong and a big bad bitch, the scene literally gives me chills
HOWEVER
Veronica needs to stop calling Hiram daddy ASAP
Shut up she is allowed to call her father daddy I bet you call your father daddy all the time it not a problem or you don't have a father or daddy do you
They exiling people now??😭😭
I would have preferred the serpent way
"Tick tock, Daddy"
There can’t be people taking this serious are they 😂
Archie wins again see you never Hiram
Nah Archie got blown tf up
@@voiceofconsole2154 is Jughead is moving in with his new girlfriend ????.
@@michellelohde8683 I don’t know. Most likely not yet, but expect Archie and Betty to have lost a arm and a leg
@@voiceofconsole2154 is Betty is happy Jughead has new girlfriend ??????..
@@michellelohde8683 idk she was about to fuck Archie and get blown up by a bomb so idk
2:06
I need this on a 4K wallpaper
Its just the way he says I blame archie 😂😂😂😂
Michael Meyers: *hold my mask*
😂
Does someone know the name of the soundtrack in this scene ?
1:43
Anyone notice the girl with the bow?
I’m surprised he didn’t say that phone instead of Archie
Why did they put Blackhood and all the other villains in prison and not him? Why do they give him privilege?
I feel like he wasn’t as bad as them 😂 he was more of a family man to me
@happy baby but hal killed innocent or maybe not, but cold bloodedly killed more. The rest were legit serial killers
He's a well known rich man in Riverdale with a lot of connections. all he has to do is put up a fat stack of cash and he has people eating out of the palm of his hand. it's horrible!!
On gawd badass
It doesn't change that he planted the bomb under the bed, then started the fiasco of season 6
I tried looking up when Archie smacks the drink out of his hand and smashed his head on the table to be handcuffed!!! When I saw that........... Ooh man!!!!
Now Hiram got backstabbed.
1:54 Song?
Damn
Instead of blaming Hiram, we should burn Veronica 😂. Like why u calling him daddy and being sooo cringeyyy
Cause it’s still her dad what she gonna call him hiram
@happy baby uhh she's never flip flopped. And if you watched previous seasons she's TRIED to get him in jail and she succeeded but thanks to his filthy connections it didn't last very long. Plus, she's tried to be civil and cordial with him but he always has to have a reason to be vindictive and cruel towards her and anyone she's close with. So in my opinion, I think this is his karma. He's gotten away with too much for too damn long.
@happy baby She never threw him in prison because he was sick or manipulated anyone. And if anything HIRAM is the flipflop. He's all "i love my daughter" one day and then "I hate my daughter and her friends" the next. Everyone goes along with her because they've all experienced hiram and know how eveil he is. Veronica is a product of her environment and upbringing. And you wanna talk about manipulation, Hiram used an innocent student to do his dirty work, and literally fucked his wife into getting back with him just so he could have leverage again and "fix" his emotionally abusive marriage. And if we're being completely honest here, it seems like you're a little bit in favor of him. You say that she's manipulative and that she "pushed" her way into the family business. She started her own business after she got herself back together and made her own way while hiram was still coming up with another attack against her and Archie. He used people for his own dirty games and you think SHE'S manipulative?? No. If anyone manipulative and flipflopy it's Hiram.
@happy baby ok i honestly don't understand the beginning and middle of what you said but to further re-explain my point, he's been horrible to EVERYONE. Veronica included!! And of coure she'd stop everything to see about her sick father. Anybody would. That doesn't make her a flipflopper. And she bought Pop's because he wasn't financially stable enough to keep it going anymore. So Veronica stepped in and bought it. Also, who's the one who keeps continuing this cycle of vindictiveness?? HER FATHER!!! Need i remind you, she's gone to mother MULTIPLE TIMES about the things that he's done to her. Yeah, Veronica may be flawed and not easy to deal with, but I tell you NOTHING she did is even comparable to eternal list of things that she's had to endure. And anytime she went along with her family is because she was forced to!! If she didn't go along with, he'd do what always does. Attack everyone she's involved with. That's how he gets her to do what he wants! by hitting her where he knows it hurts: Her friends. And again i reiterate, THEY GO ALONG WITH HER WILLINGLY. She doesn't hold a gun to their head, blackmail them, they help her because as i said before, they know how evil hiram is and have experienced it firsthand.
@happy baby You had no idea how manipulation works and it shows. Hiram is her father, and while some are capable of cuting ties with their toxic parents, a lot more aren't. Although they're hurting their child and everyone close to them, the said child is not able to leave their parent's side because at the end of the day, it's still their parent and no matter how bad of a human being said parent is, there's always still some good memories and love left because want it or not but every child is loving their parent and craving their love. Veronica loved her father and first craved his love and attention - she said so herself in 5x17. Hiram let her believe that after years she finally got noticed by him only to find out she was manipulated and used by him all along. But he's still a father, someone who used to be one of the most precious people in her life, so Veronica believed he would change and remembering how loving he could be when she was a kid, she gave him another chance, then he got sick and it's more than understandable that she forgot all about his wrongdoings because she feared Hiram is going to die. It's her father after all and although he had hurt her, she still cared for him. That's a typical toxic relationship between a manipulator, in this case Hiram, and his victim. It's even more complicated if the abuser is a parent and a victim is a child, a minor. And you are really out there blaming a victim for being used and manipulated by one of the most important people in her life? Are you nuts? Or are you just typical barchie fan who's looking for a reason to hate on Veronica and prove how she's not worthy of Archie? Wouldn't be surprised if that's the case.
Everybody except the best character of Riverdale, Penelope Blossom
She was exiled too 🤣 but I missed her
RIVERDALE NA FAM MORE LIKE CRAZYDALE
Where is Hiram going ?
Where was hermione?
She left riverdale. She became a real housewife and divorced hiram in episode 2 or 3 i think?
this scene was not ok, like she shouldnt have pointed a gun at her own dad...
This is very stupid Veronica over reacts with father she acts like Hiram was that cruel to her ughh stupid storyline
Are you stupid? He literally tried murdering archie so many times, he hurts everyone. He deserves this & she’s not stupid for this
@@tristancadwell786 Who cares? Archie is a meathead. Hiram wants more for his daughter. Because he actually loves her, unlike her, who keeps blaming him for everything she is herself. And what his wealth and power brought to her. She’s just pathetic.
@@mightybitchy No Hiram said he wishes he had a son instead of a daughter when V was 14 YOU DON'T SAY THOSE THINGS. Hiram is a horrible father. He ruined everyone lives.
I don't see how any of this is an overreaction. He literally bought a prison so he could use it as a drug lab, hired a teenage boy as muscle for hire and tried to have him killed on multiple occasions, funded an illegal gang of thieves, drug dealers and violent hoodlums, treated his wife like crap, emotionally manipulated his daughters, deconstructed a township for a payday, murdered dozens of people and then BOMBED A HOUSE. That's just to name a few of the terrible things he's done.
Hiram isn't just a mobster king pin anymore, he's a literal TERRORIST. So no, it wasn't an overreaction. In fact, given that he planted a bomb in Archie's house and chose to detonate it AFTER he was exiled, I'd say it was too lenient a punishment. Veronica should have shot him right between the eyes and been done with it right then and there.
@@mightybitchy Y’all hate on Archie for everything. He’s actually trying to make Riverdale better unlike Hiram. He’s done so much good shit for people but all y’all can say about him is that he’s a meathead. Hiram doesn’t love Veronica. He told her he wanted a son bozo. Hiram is a little bitch. Hiram is the worst character and y’all think just because he stood up for Ronnie once, that means he loves her. Y’all are such weirdos.🤣
Daddy
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Who did he kill?
His former boss "Vito", who is a notorious gangster in the 90s. When Hiram (formerly known as Jaime Luna)'s dad Javier Luna threatened Vito to go to the police if he didn't leave his son alone, Vito ordered his execution. For years, Vito remained out of sight after Hiram murdered members of his gang, until he was finally killed by Hiram to avenge his father.
@@RichestJ He never died in that room with his henchmen?! Wow, I clearly missed that.
The writing sucks ..
All teen drama writing sucks
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
This is beyond cringe
Barchie Kiss pls
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡