Can You Beat Rivals WITHOUT Losing Units?
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- Опубликовано: 22 июл 2024
- ▶️ Day 9 Video : • Rivals! (Advance Campa...
🎮 Previous Record (Day 12) : gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/... + • AW1 Advance Campaign R...
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🕑 Timestamps :
0:00 - Mangs' Error?
0:22 - Introduction
4:15 - Consistent Setup
10:02 - What was accomplished?
15:46 - Outroduction
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👨💻 Credits :
▪ Original video : • Can You Beat Advance W...
▪ Mangs' channel : / @mangs1337
▪ Thanks to Vinny Vinesauce and yeey5 for the voice.
Disclaimer : This video was created only for entertainment reasons. It features fictional characters impersonating public figures in a comedic environment. It is not made to spread misinformation or to damage the reputation of the persons in question.
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THIS IS SO GENIUS. I cant believe i never thought about using the fightere as a shield!
Thanks! You had to go through the entire Campaign alone so it's fair for you to have not thought about every little thing. At least, if you need a hand on something like that in the future, you know you can always ask me for some help ;)
YES, CHALLENGE is SAVED!!!!
Got you! How many of you fell for it and thought this was a Mangs' video at first?
Well, with the recent drought on his side, here is a little something for you guys to wait with!
Well i did notice that this video was made by another person that wasnt Mangs because of the profile picture, but with how high quality the thumbnail was,i wouldn't be surprised if people actually fell for that.
Yeah I was wondering that Mangs sounds really weird in this video
Rivals Deathless without cosmic rays striking exactly the right bit in your console to cause snow on a map with weather fixed to clear? Amazing!
My first draft was mentioning the Mario 64 upwarp! xD
I mean, it wasn't really a cosmic ray (you can thank pannenkoek for proving that) but it works perfectly fine for the joke
@@notZabami ruclips.net/video/X5cwuYFUUAY/видео.html It wasn't? AFAIK it had to be a spurious bit change and there's still an open bounty to reproduce it in a way that wasn't a cosmic ray or other source of random bit flips. It can't be any known Mario64 bug like Invisible walls or similar.
@@Xv8M4g3rThing is, the bitfip theory is not confirmed either, it's just the closest one we have.
As Pannen said in the description of the video you sent : "So is the upwarp caused by the bit change? The comparison videos didn't match exactly, so nothing is certain. At this point, it's just speculation. Without any sort of replication of the original glitch, we can't know anything for sure."
8 years later and his opinion is basically still the same on that matter. So, cosmic rays being one possibilty isn't even 100% garanteed since the bit flip theory isn't either.
And I won't even go into the issue of DOTA_TeaBag admitting years later that he had to crook his cartridge for it to work, so clearly his N64 or cartridge weren't functioning properly. Hardware malfunction has been the leading theory because similar glitches that happened to other people seemed to have that in common. It doesn't make cosmic rays a completely unviable explanation but there are more "fitting" ones, in that specific case.
ruclips.net/video/vj8DzA9y8ls/видео.html
This video goes into more details, and there is some in-depth documentation around in the ABC Discord if you really want to look into this.
The snow incident on Rivals is basically the same story, until someone redo the glitch, so we can compare, finding out why this seemingly random event triggered with so little information is not going to happen anytime soon.
@@N.H.23 I didn't know about the Crooked Cart bit, likely to explain things but we can't be sure. (Again, the parallel to Rivals is here, the fog of war code is likely, but we can't be sure)
Video started as "this is possible" to "found an optimized strat to defeat one of the most difficult levels in rivals." Taking shots at the moon and hitting the stars moment.
Love the analogy, I just wanted to show the best I could do so it could be a bit special for you guys and went beyond my own expectations ^^
I figured deathless would be possible knowing how the aw1 ai works, i did not expect the casual day 9 t copter waltzing past eagles entire anti air defense.
I tried messing around in advance wars 2 but even if i make a map really difficult the random ai generation can really throw a wrench in everything you're doing. Im unfortunately not gba savy enough to fix that.
Nice run!
Thanks! I was looking forward to your comment since you are part of the video, which was not intended at first : I saw your comment while screenshoting Mangs' and thought it would fit perfectly in too.
Yeah, I knew you wouldn't be surprised at all by that xD To be fair, Rivals deathless would be trickier without the Fighters (I could see ways to still make it happen but still). And the Day 9 victory being possible and a new record is still something I haven't completely registered in my mind yet with how stupidly simple it is x)
I was wondering how things were going for you on that side. I'm not surprised it's hard to create a playable impossible challenge on the GBA games. The DS games are better on that front, the AI is so much better and harder to abuse.
I would say though, for the GBA games, going for survival challenges where we have limited ressources might be a better idea instead. You can more easily force the player in a spot where stalling forever is not possible, since you can place tiles and units however you see fit. Or even create an entirely new type of challenges, I'm sure there are ways to make something interesting happen.
@@N.H.23 Haha yea I saw that, I figured mangs might have followed up his video, but based on his awbw copy hed been working on it since February, so I guess he'd had enough.
I tried to change the blue moon factory map as a sort of impossible/defense mission. Changing the factory unit list was doable but the random ai means you can just reset the map until it builds units that don't move.
Maybe Il have another look, a survival mission does sound cool but advance wars 2 ai has many flaws, I never really got into the DS games because I didn't own one until like 2017.
I wouldn't be surprised, he wants to have fun while showing off something cool and we both know there are a lot of missions/maps that would never work for an impossible challenge. And a lot of them would also just feel like repeats of older challenges so that doesn't help.
Oh yeah, the factory missions would have been fun and interesting for sure! I know that one of the challenges I need to do is on the first one, trying to rout it in the Hard Campaign instead of going for the pipe.
Yeah, a survival challenge feels a lot more manageable to create. If "Tanks!!!" didn't have a huge choke point with the HQ in the middle and Fog to hide/go around with a Mech, I'm pretty sure this would have not been possible to beat/stall forever.
You should try Dual Strike a bit, the AI is a lot better, you would quickly see why creating an impossible challenge there feels actually doable.
Amazing. The AI never fails to disappoint.
The AI can't betray our expectations, it has to show us the worst it can do xD
Now here's a question: between Eagle and Mangs, who's coping and seething more?
if only Andy had his super CO power.
You're going to turn this into a Rivals Deathless% speedrun category at this rate
The fact that we are 1 tile away from Day 8... I really was thinking the same thing at that point.
One day, someone will go for an Avance Wars Deathless% speedrun at this rate xD
Played out like an Egg impossible challenge. Great vid N H
Thanks! It really felt like I had to crack one of his impossible challenge ^^
You sound like vinesauce vinny if he had an accent
Because I'm his younger brother, Nhinny! xD
My mic is so bad I have to use an AI voice changer to sound even remotely good, and Vinny's voice is one of the few that worked really well so I went with it since my voice has a similar range. So that's why I sound like him but with my accent behind ;) One day, I will find an opportunity to throw a good SPEEN in a video xD
@@N.H.23 Oh my god. Dang the ai is really good because I had no idea it was ai. I just thought you suspiciously really sounded like him. Has anyone else noticed you sounded like Vinny, or better, notice that it was partially ai, or was I the first?
@@charl2182Yeah, it's insane, and I don't even do this because I really want my voice to sound like his, with the right parameters I could even make it so my mimics and accent almost disappear. But I'm looking for creating an original voice closer to mine with his as a base in the future.
And, you are the second person, I got someone in a previous video who said that I sound like "Scandinavian Vinny" xD And you are not the only one it seems as I just got another comment on that!
One thing, there is a impossible challenge that maybe is interesting, beating first jess mission without using and building units that cost more than 12000
seems easy, but is not
@@sanstroidIt looks hard for sure. I don't normally like challenges where the idea isn't simple and you have to force the player to do or not do extremely specific actions but it's still worth trying for sure, thanks!
You sound exactly like Vinny Vinesauce, but with an accent.
I've got some déjà vu there xD Yeah, you aren't the only one who caught onto that, I'm using his voice through an AI voice changer to help with my horrendous mic quality and Vinny's voice worked really well with my setup so I went with that (plus I've been watching him forever now so I'm cool with using his for now, until I get a better alternative). The credit for the voice and all are in the description.
@@N.H.23 Oh I didn't notice that. Cool!
Man... That's some cheese that you did XD And yeah, you are right! Why freak out over the fighters? That is EXACTLY what you need. Silly Mangs :P
Though, one thing that was mentioned, but not sure if it's true: If you build enough AA units, would that halt the AI from making any air units despite they have Eagle? I remember that from another video and that's how they were able to counter push back
Thanks, I worked hard for that video, you have no idea xD
Yeah, I knew Mangs made a mistake when dismissing the Fighters in his video, never underestimate the blocking power of units unable to attack most units in the game :p
Good question, it depends what number is enough because I did play a bit more for the random footage I used, building even more Anti-Airs in the process, and the AI didn't seem to stop making air units. I remember reading something on this (I found this back where the first post mentions it a bit : forums.warsworldnews.com/viewtopic.php?t=14306 ; and this which has a lot of info : www.reddit.com/r/Advance_Wars/comments/55ufr1/insight_to_advance_wars_ai/ ), that the AI doesn't look at building units exactly like us, it normally still wants a specific minimum number of each unit type, then it will also try to build counter units once it has enough units and funds.
Here, I know for a fact that Eagle can sometimes stop making Fighters once he has already 2 of them on the field. But he doesn't seem to stop making Bombers as I think they are considered a counter to A-As.
Now, I don't know the video you are referring to but if the person playing was killing Eagle's units continually, at least enough for Eagle to want to build these back (and maybe enough that Eagle didn't have enough funds for air units since they cost a lot), then it could explain the lack of air units on his side.
Question. Have you played Super Famicom Wars?
Strangely, not yet, even though I do have the game on my PC. It's up there on my list for sure, stuff like being able to rank your units up or move through rivers with naval units makes me really curious to try it out, seems fun.
(4 days later and not only did you guys made me play it, I probably know a bit too much about the game now xD)
huge blunder on mangs side
There is a part of me that wishes he'd asked me for help back then, but another is glad he didn't just this once because I would have never look into this further than necessary and beat the record on this mission otherwise.