Also Heidegger was a weird anti modernist, hated rationnalism, and litteraly a nazi. The black (note)books made another proof that that bloke was a weird conspiracy theorist too. I'm harsh on him, but as a bachelor degree in philosophy myself, his writings from before the nazi period (Being and Time) don't really enrapture me. He did taught Marcuse, who in turn taught Angela Davis, so that's a neat factoid to know. Wittgenstein is better anyways - don't yell at me, I'm a spinozist deleuzoid.
Да, у нас в политике беспорядок. А где его в ней не было? Ах да, частично в СССР, когда все дуди в примерно одну дудку, но сейчас многие не любят вспоминать былые времена.
@@ZeV2did it maybe have something to do with the all-powerful repressive apparatus of the bolsheviks? Good old times of secret police, but nobody wants to remember that today!
@@dopejoel Apologies to the anarchist types here, but anarchy is unable to stabilise itself and is ultimately only a stopgap position on the way to a new authoritarianism
@@veritasetcaritasthis is how russian politics are traditionally(in Russia) divided: Liberals - any democrats Communists - any left-wingers(like socialists, communists and anarchists, not like soc.dems) Nationalists(fashists) - any nationalists
As always thanks for these great deep dives. Needless to say, his "fourth way" looks just about the same as the "third way" did in the 1930's...mystical national souls, traditionalism, jingoism, if anything is cyclically repeating in history it's people falling for the same bundle of reactionary opinions. Funny that he was in a nazbol party in the early 90's, as it doesn't seem like his views have grown that much since then hah
I think Dugin is highly opportunistic and has been rattling around trying to attach himself to any party which will have him. But he never seems able to stick with one; he either leaves or they kick him out.
From Russians I learned, that Dugin is irrelevant in Russia. Only Westerners try to portray him as someone influential. Specifically Maxim Katz made video when Daria Dugina was killed talking also about her father. Vlad Vexler also clarified what are influences for Putin, his connection to Dugin and how his mindset is formed not specifically from any ideologies.
Yes this is the sense I get. His influence in Russia is overblown. His views are widespread in Russia in a general way, in the sense that there are plenty of people who wish for a great return to Russia's former imperial glory, and who share his views on racial essentialism and anti-modernism, but Dugin himself seems quite insignificant as an individual. More of an opportunist who is desperately trying to get his foot in the door to the halls of power.
Russia had been brutally colonizing Caucasus region during the 19th c. and Central Asia after its conquest in the late 19th c. Not to mention Siberia two centuries prior. To say that Russia was the first victim of imperialism is like saying that a girl was provoking a rapist.
Very compelling video on a topic that was not given enough attention by other creators. I have always found disturbing those "leftists" who unironically used the term "special military operation", Russian peacekeepers, denazification, etc even if I agree with most of what they say about NATO's role in this war (which is also the reason why leftists should not support a military action that gave new legitimacy to NATO and it's most definitely leading to a new arms race in Europe). Looking forward to your new video on the series
Its a bit ironic that an ideology, which is entirely based on european culture and even explicitely references this fact at the same time claims to be its anti-thesis. 9:25 It just has to be noted that cylic understanding of history etc. isn't distinctively facist. Also the jabs against russia-sympathetic leftists are indeed highly entertaining.
I appreciate your use of language in these videos, speaking clearly and directly, with no emotional or sensational aspects interfering. You are transparent about your biases and with your sources, and the presentation overall encourages a deeper critical analysis than what I normally encounter on this platform. Thank you!
I think it's worth noting that Dugin is exceptionally well-received among Chinese UltNats, even though some of Dugin's spicier comments about China would have definately triggered them hard. As a Chinese on the opposite spectrum, this is far beyond my understanding that how they could even get along with each other. Maybe due to some 'creative editing' or a common enemy is enough for them to set the difference aside?
@@veritasetcaritas LMAO, thats not the case... Typical Baizuo behaviour, thats why eastern commies dont take you folks seriously for a long while now. If you cared to read Dugin without being bitchy about it, and read about his Global Multipolar Conference you would notice one of the biggest ideologists in PCC was present, and also many eastern commies from all over Asia. Arrogant Baizuo.
I've had Dimitry as my professor for two classes. It was nice to see this man cited in this video. He's an interesting guy but I throughly enjoyed his classes.
This is off-topic but I recently met a lady from Taiwan who told me that she was terrifed when she learned that Russia invaded Ukraine. Her Mother even felt the need to look what it took to become a Candian citizen. Is it possible that you can make a video on what you've personally experienced and seen since the war started and how it looks now? Maybe I'm overanalyazing a single person but I'm curious.
If you are talking about what I've experienced and seen in Taiwan since the war in Ukraine began, all I can say is that many people in Taiwan are watching the situation very closely, people in Taiwan generally support Ukraine, and some Taiwanese men have actually traveled to Ukraine and joined the Ukrainian army as volunteers. One of them, Sincyang Diway, an indigenous man of the Amis tribe and former member of Taiwan's own army, died in battle in December 2022. Many people in Taiwan think that the outcome of the war in Ukraine will be informative about Taiwan's situation with relation to China. I am not convinced about that at all.
@@veritasetcaritas While I doubt the information would be revolutionary, seeing the cards the US has played against a large nuclear-armed nation invading a smaller non-nuclear-armed nation could, at the very least, tell you how they'll(The US.) sail their boat....so to speak.
That doesn't at all address the point made, which was not "Heidegger is not vague", but that Dugin is not representing correctly Heidegger's actual definition of dasein; Dugin's definition of dasein is so vague it is not recognizable as Heidegger's.
What's your source on Marxist-Leninists and Maoists defining themselves as "authoritarians"? I'm genuinely curious since it's a contested term in Marxist circles.
1. Marxit-Leninst Hakim, who made a video entitled "Libertarian Socialism With Authoritarian Characteristics", arguing for authoritarianism and citing Engels' work "On Authority" as support. 2. Marxist-Leninist Second Thought's video "We need to talk about authoritarianism", arguing for authoritarianism and citing Engels' work "On Authority" as support.
It really sounds like Dugin It's just a bashas to threw in some Bolshevik to prey on peoples Soviet nostalgia during the dark days of the 90s and early oughts in Russia. In here that would be that far out from the kind of mystic or volkisch Nazis and other fascists
13:00 "Traditionalist" is just Julius Evola and Rene Guenon's ideology, Evola described himself as to the right of fascism. Speaking of Evola and Dugin you can tie them together with Jordan Peterson by following his favourite author Mircea Eliade, the University of Texas Center for Russian, East European, and Eurasian Studies (UT CREEES) hosted 4 presentations related to this subject by J Roberts, Raul Cârstocea, (Jason Roberts again) and Ionuț Biliuță respectively. Which could be an avenue of research in the future if you want to analyze the spread of fascist ideology.
oh i didnt let you finish reading the quote. i meant the völkisch trancendence and cyclical view of history, but militaristic imperialism is (obviously lol) not unique to fascism either. and im not certain i know what ultranationalism is or how it is distinct from nationalism itself
the palingenetic stuff is definitely fascist tho imo. i think it hits at the importance of fascism as not just a party program or a state structure, but a movement
I expected a video on Dugin, not a video on Umland and Shlapentokh... I mean where are the examples, the quotes from Dugin's work? Nowhere. Instead, we have opinions from unclearly chosen guys and journalists even!
THis is the second in a series. The first video summarized Dugin's political theory, with thirteen direct quotations from his work. This second video literally starts with a quotation from Dugin on screen, and then proceedes to summarize his ideology based on his own words. This second video is an analysis of whether or not his Dugin's theory is fascist. Consequently it cites the analysis of people I explicitly identify as those who have studied Dugin's work in depth overr the years. They are not "unclealry chosen". I explained this explicltly in the video, saying: "In this section I will quote predominantly from French historian Marlene Laruelle, political scientist Andreas Umland, and professor of history Dmitry Shlapentokh, all of whom have followed Dugin’s ideological development over the last 20 years, and have published their observations on his views regularly in the scholarly literature, taking note of Dugin’s various changes in political standpoint over that time, and agreeing substantially on their interpretation of his ideology." None of those three people are journalists, and noen of them are "unclearly chosen". How much of the video did you watch?
@@veritasetcaritas I stopped at the Spiegel article… yet, those political scientists are not giving examples, just qualifications which makes the quotes from them unclearly chosen. Why is some guy’s definition of fascism -formed in just a single sentence - a clear pick when there’s so much discussion about fascism? Again, why no quotes and insights? Otherwise, I think your attitude is very fair and neutral btw and I was just hoping the video to get to an analysis of Dugin’s own words, not others’. What’s the point of having access to non-Western sources if, in the end, they sound just like an opinion? I’ll watch the first part, though.
@@user-rq3rj2hk3w even if you stopped at the Spiegel article, you would still have heard me explain very clearly why I chose those scholars. Not only that, but the Spiegel article literally quotes Dugin's own words, which is what you wanted. The scholars I quoted give very direct examples. They tell you exactly which aspects of Dugin's theory they are critiquing and why they do or don't think it is fascism. Here are some examples, which cite or even quote Dugin's own words and articles. * from fascism he takes the myth of a transcendent people, a cyclical view of time in terms of decline and rise, and much more * Dugin wants to dispense with fascism’s racism and its flirtation with biological determinism, but not with its ultranationalism or militaristic imperialism * Dugin’s active use of the term “conservatism” also continues his earlier strategy of camouflaging his doctrine with terminology that fits Russian and international political correctness * While at the fringe of Russia’s political life, in the early-mid 1990s, Dugin described his own ideology frankly as a program of the “Conservative Revolution,” a construct he explicitly used to define fascism * When he started drawing closer to the establishment, however, Dugin put more emphasis on labels like “Eurasian” or “Traditionalist” although his “neo-Eurasianist” ideology, in important regards, sharply diverges from both classical Eurasianism and Integral Traditionalism * Dugin has enthusiastically predicted the rise of a Russian true “fascist fascism” in his article "Fascism - borderless and red I ussed Griffin's definition of fascism since it is the standard academically accepted definition. It has become the scholarly consensus, used especially by the International Association for Comparative Fascist Studies. "Otherwise, I think your attitude is very fair and neutral btw and I was just hoping the video to get to an analysis of Dugin’s own words, not others’." Thank you. The first video laid out his theory extensively, in his own words. "What’s the point of having access to non-Western sources if, in the end, they sound just like an opinion? " I don't think they sound like just opinion. These are reasoned views from scholars who have studied Dugin for at least 20 years. They are literally specialists, who not only provide their analysis but explain their reasons.
@@veritasetcaritas Yeah, the International Association for Comparative Fascist Studies uses Griffin's definition because - surprise, surprise - Griffin is the founder of this "high-end" Association. It's like saying "I'm right bc I said so; I am the consensus". And I see that you're into writing but, again, there were no quotes in your list of examples... They very much sound like opinions. I'm sure if I find the articles, there will be quotes and examples, I just hope they have a wider scope than this one Griffin guy.
@@user-rq3rj2hk3w no this isn't true. You're confusing several issues. 1. I didn't cite Griffin as an authority on fascism. I cited him for the meaning of "palingenetic ultranationalism". That is entirely legitimate because he was the person who coined the term, so his definition of palingenetic ultranationalism is correct. 2. Griffin's definition of fascism became the scholarly consensus a very long time ago, whereas COMFAS is barely 9 years old. So COMFAS is using the definition which had already become the scholarly consensus. It has nothing to do with any sinister influence by Griffin, for which you provide no evidence. So no, rthi sis not a case of him saying "I am right because I said so". It's a case of him coming up with a definition all the way back in 1991, and the academy debating that definition and discussing it for yeras, and it gradually becoming scholarly consensus. You claim "there were no quotes in your list of examples", but there were. They are even on screen, complete with quotation marks.
@@veritasetcaritasA coup funded and supported by the US by far right borderline Nazis is a fight for independence? You don't know anything about Ukraine or Russia so you repeat your masters propaganda.
@@latviankhan2989 as opposed to dependence on Russia? But hey, it's not all bad baby, I hear that Lugansk just got mobile internet for the first time in 9 years. That's progress.
100% incorrect interpretation of Dugin views. This confusion rooted in not understanding the nature of linguistic and its dependence on context. Slavic languages are much more contextual than english, that makes definitions of concepts more complex. In slavic tradition "Imperia" means unified populous. It is very similar to Federation. The difference is Federation united by abstract Laws, Imperia is unified by a story, history, land and the idea of one destiny, lead by a human embodiment of that idea. Emperor is seen just like umpire in business of country, arbitrator, father figure. Like people in a family are united by common destiny, people of one country share the destiny. It has nothing to do with fascism. Think yourself - Russians pride self on myliti nationality. You say yourself "Eurasian identitarianism." Eurasian means combination of cultures of Europe and Aisa - multinational identity - it is opposite to definition of fascism.
This has nothing to do with misunderstanding "Slavic languages". Dugin is literal and fluent in English, and is easily able to make himself understood. As I demonstrated from my quotations of his own words in this video and the previous video, when he speaks of empire and imperialism that is exactly what he means. In particular, he means Russian exceptionalism, with the Russian state ruling over vassal states. The term "Eurasian" does not mean "combination of cultures". It means the people of the Eurasian continent. Additionally, you totally avoided the term "identitarianism", which is the opposite of multiculturalism. Dugin is against multiculturalism. I notice you didn't quote anything from Dugin.
Did you seriously say "unified by a story, history, land and the idea of one destiny, lead by a human embodiment of that idea. Emperor is seen just like umpire in business of country, arbitrator, father figure. Like people in a family are united by common destiny, people of one country share the destiny" and then follow it up with "It has nothing to do with fascism"? You do realise that your description sounds *exactly* like fascism, right? The obsession with national history and identity, the conflation of people and land, the construction of narrative 'myths', the idea of a 'leader' who 'embodies' the national ideal, the leader as a 'father figure' and the emphasis on 'family', the teleological projection of a national 'destiny'... All of these are easy to see as important defining elements of the Nazi version in particular but a lot of it is also evident in Italian fascism and other versions.
Я скажу только одно - Дугин не нацист и не фашист. Он - нацбол. А вот тот, кто не видит разницы между нацболами и фашистами - не должны про них говорить.
He isnt even a National Bolshevik... He used to be, long time ago ( like 20-30 years ago ) Hes simply a fourth political theory ideologist. Thats it. Dumbasses try to fit him into fascism because they are scared of his ideas snowballing and taking the spotlight out of western marxists... Because most of those who bitch about Dugin being "Fascist" are western marxists and liberals, because Chinese folks couldnt care less about all this "Fascism" accusations.. Typical Baizuo behaviour...
teeny tiny nitpick, but Heidegger was not an existensialist rather he rejected that term and rather called himself an existence philosopher
Also Heidegger was a weird anti modernist, hated rationnalism, and litteraly a nazi.
The black (note)books made another proof that that bloke was a weird conspiracy theorist too.
I'm harsh on him, but as a bachelor degree in philosophy myself, his writings from before the nazi period (Being and Time) don't really enrapture me. He did taught Marcuse, who in turn taught Angela Davis, so that's a neat factoid to know.
Wittgenstein is better anyways - don't yell at me, I'm a spinozist deleuzoid.
As a Russian I am really happy that somebody is explaining our political movements mess.
I'm waiting for nazbols and Eurasiaist.
In the next video I'll explain why some Western people on the left and right both support Dugin.
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Да, у нас в политике беспорядок. А где его в ней не было? Ах да, частично в СССР, когда все дуди в примерно одну дудку, но сейчас многие не любят вспоминать былые времена.
@@ZeV2did it maybe have something to do with the all-powerful repressive apparatus of the bolsheviks? Good old times of secret police, but nobody wants to remember that today!
@@veritasetcaritasdid you ever complete that video? Because the left and right are both pushing him hard now. Specially Haz
I love how Dugin forgets that other than liberalism, communism and fascism, there is also anarchism. Or does he see anarchists as communists?
He lumps the entire left wing into communism. Very reductive.
Anarchism would be anti-political if I'm not mistake.
@@dopejoel Apologies to the anarchist types here, but anarchy is unable to stabilise itself and is ultimately only a stopgap position on the way to a new authoritarianism
@@veritasetcaritasthis is how russian politics are traditionally(in Russia) divided:
Liberals - any democrats
Communists - any left-wingers(like socialists, communists and anarchists, not like soc.dems)
Nationalists(fashists) - any nationalists
@@Karton142 thanks that's useful to know.
As always thanks for these great deep dives. Needless to say, his "fourth way" looks just about the same as the "third way" did in the 1930's...mystical national souls, traditionalism, jingoism, if anything is cyclically repeating in history it's people falling for the same bundle of reactionary opinions. Funny that he was in a nazbol party in the early 90's, as it doesn't seem like his views have grown that much since then hah
I think Dugin is highly opportunistic and has been rattling around trying to attach himself to any party which will have him. But he never seems able to stick with one; he either leaves or they kick him out.
From Russians I learned, that Dugin is irrelevant in Russia. Only Westerners try to portray him as someone influential. Specifically Maxim Katz made video when Daria Dugina was killed talking also about her father. Vlad Vexler also clarified what are influences for Putin, his connection to Dugin and how his mindset is formed not specifically from any ideologies.
Yes this is the sense I get. His influence in Russia is overblown. His views are widespread in Russia in a general way, in the sense that there are plenty of people who wish for a great return to Russia's former imperial glory, and who share his views on racial essentialism and anti-modernism, but Dugin himself seems quite insignificant as an individual. More of an opportunist who is desperately trying to get his foot in the door to the halls of power.
@@veritasetcaritasI suppose one could describe Dugin as a cheerleader, highly visible supporter for a team but ultimately superfluous.
@@bernadmanny I would agree with that, he's a useful tool for people like Putin, but ultimately dispensable.
You don't get to be the world's largest country without some imperialism.
It depends on your definition of imperialism.
Russia was first the victim of imperialism and instead of sitting back and waiting for another Tatar army they moved East.
All contry (except very recent one) where imperialist in there history
Russia had been brutally colonizing Caucasus region during the 19th c. and Central Asia after its conquest in the late 19th c. Not to mention Siberia two centuries prior.
To say that Russia was the first victim of imperialism is like saying that a girl was provoking a rapist.
@@Lumeonefascist
Very compelling video on a topic that was not given enough attention by other creators. I have always found disturbing those "leftists" who unironically used the term "special military operation", Russian peacekeepers, denazification, etc even if I agree with most of what they say about NATO's role in this war (which is also the reason why leftists should not support a military action that gave new legitimacy to NATO and it's most definitely leading to a new arms race in Europe).
Looking forward to your new video on the series
For Jews living in the Ukraine, especially queer Jews, the easiest way to not need to support NATO here is to immigrate to Israel
Nice being still pro rashism.
As a queer Jew, good thing my parents left Ukraine in time
Its a bit ironic that an ideology, which is entirely based on european culture and even explicitely references this fact at the same time claims to be its anti-thesis. 9:25 It just has to be noted that cylic understanding of history etc. isn't distinctively facist. Also the jabs against russia-sympathetic leftists are indeed highly entertaining.
Yeah I certainly wouldn't accuse Dugin of being consistent.
eurasian culture not european nor asian culture
I appreciate your use of language in these videos, speaking clearly and directly, with no emotional or sensational aspects interfering. You are transparent about your biases and with your sources, and the presentation overall encourages a deeper critical analysis than what I normally encounter on this platform. Thank you!
I think it's worth noting that Dugin is exceptionally well-received among Chinese UltNats, even though some of Dugin's spicier comments about China would have definately triggered them hard. As a Chinese on the opposite spectrum, this is far beyond my understanding that how they could even get along with each other. Maybe due to some 'creative editing' or a common enemy is enough for them to set the difference aside?
Thanks, that's interesting to know. I think it's likely a case of "The enemy of my enemy is my friend".
Ahahaha, it's so ironic that the Guy literally wants Mongolia to be part of Eurasia and an independent Manchuria,Eastern Turkmenistan and Tibet
@@darkphoenix8941 you certain can't accuse him of being consistent.
@@veritasetcaritas LMAO, thats not the case...
Typical Baizuo behaviour, thats why eastern commies dont take you folks seriously for a long while now.
If you cared to read Dugin without being bitchy about it, and read about his Global Multipolar Conference you would notice one of the biggest ideologists in PCC was present, and also many eastern commies from all over Asia.
Arrogant Baizuo.
Really liked this and the first video, got into your channel thanks to Fredda promoting your work. Looking forward to part 3!
Thanks!
The script for the third one is nearly done.
I've had Dimitry as my professor for two classes. It was nice to see this man cited in this video. He's an interesting guy but I throughly enjoyed his classes.
This is off-topic but I recently met a lady from Taiwan who told me that she was terrifed when she learned that Russia invaded Ukraine. Her Mother even felt the need to look what it took to become a Candian citizen.
Is it possible that you can make a video on what you've personally experienced and seen since the war started and how it looks now?
Maybe I'm overanalyazing a single person but I'm curious.
If you are talking about what I've experienced and seen in Taiwan since the war in Ukraine began, all I can say is that many people in Taiwan are watching the situation very closely, people in Taiwan generally support Ukraine, and some Taiwanese men have actually traveled to Ukraine and joined the Ukrainian army as volunteers. One of them, Sincyang Diway, an indigenous man of the Amis tribe and former member of Taiwan's own army, died in battle in December 2022.
Many people in Taiwan think that the outcome of the war in Ukraine will be informative about Taiwan's situation with relation to China. I am not convinced about that at all.
@@veritasetcaritas While I doubt the information would be revolutionary, seeing the cards the US has played against a large nuclear-armed nation invading a smaller non-nuclear-armed nation could, at the very least, tell you how they'll(The US.) sail their boat....so to speak.
I agree with that, it's just that I'm skeptical that the US would defend Taiwan.
"So vague that it isn't even recognizable as Heidegger's" Somebody hasn't read Heidegger. Heidegger himself can be vague.
That doesn't at all address the point made, which was not "Heidegger is not vague", but that Dugin is not representing correctly Heidegger's actual definition of dasein; Dugin's definition of dasein is so vague it is not recognizable as Heidegger's.
What's your source on Marxist-Leninists and Maoists defining themselves as "authoritarians"? I'm genuinely curious since it's a contested term in Marxist circles.
1. Marxit-Leninst Hakim, who made a video entitled "Libertarian Socialism With Authoritarian Characteristics", arguing for authoritarianism and citing Engels' work "On Authority" as support.
2. Marxist-Leninist Second Thought's video "We need to talk about authoritarianism", arguing for authoritarianism and citing Engels' work "On Authority" as support.
@@veritasetcaritaspeter coffin is a little fucking piss baby for calling these 2 USA agents while siding with Caleb maupin
It really sounds like Dugin It's just a bashas to threw in some Bolshevik to prey on peoples Soviet nostalgia during the dark days of the 90s and early oughts in Russia. In here that would be that far out from the kind of mystic or volkisch Nazis and other fascists
I think you're absolutely right. He's definitely opportunistic.
13:00 "Traditionalist" is just Julius Evola and Rene Guenon's ideology, Evola described himself as to the right of fascism. Speaking of Evola and Dugin you can tie them together with Jordan Peterson by following his favourite author Mircea Eliade, the University of Texas Center for Russian, East European, and Eurasian Studies (UT CREEES) hosted 4 presentations related to this subject by J Roberts, Raul Cârstocea, (Jason Roberts again) and Ionuț Biliuță respectively. Which could be an avenue of research in the future if you want to analyze the spread of fascist ideology.
thank you for the video
You're welcome.
9:23 im not entirely opposed to calling dugin a fascist, but those two things in particular have existed before fascism iirc
theyre more imperialist ideas
oh i didnt let you finish reading the quote. i meant the völkisch trancendence and cyclical view of history, but militaristic imperialism is (obviously lol) not unique to fascism either. and im not certain i know what ultranationalism is or how it is distinct from nationalism itself
the palingenetic stuff is definitely fascist tho imo. i think it hits at the importance of fascism as not just a party program or a state structure, but a movement
I expected a video on Dugin, not a video on Umland and Shlapentokh... I mean where are the examples, the quotes from Dugin's work? Nowhere. Instead, we have opinions from unclearly chosen guys and journalists even!
THis is the second in a series. The first video summarized Dugin's political theory, with thirteen direct quotations from his work. This second video literally starts with a quotation from Dugin on screen, and then proceedes to summarize his ideology based on his own words.
This second video is an analysis of whether or not his Dugin's theory is fascist. Consequently it cites the analysis of people I explicitly identify as those who have studied Dugin's work in depth overr the years. They are not "unclealry chosen". I explained this explicltly in the video, saying:
"In this section I will quote predominantly from French historian Marlene Laruelle, political scientist Andreas Umland, and professor of history Dmitry Shlapentokh, all of whom have followed Dugin’s ideological development over the last 20 years, and have published their observations on his views regularly in the scholarly literature, taking note of Dugin’s various changes in political standpoint over that time, and agreeing substantially on their interpretation of his ideology."
None of those three people are journalists, and noen of them are "unclearly chosen". How much of the video did you watch?
@@veritasetcaritas I stopped at the Spiegel article… yet, those political scientists are not giving examples, just qualifications which makes the quotes from them unclearly chosen. Why is some guy’s definition of fascism -formed in just a single sentence - a clear pick when there’s so much discussion about fascism? Again, why no quotes and insights? Otherwise, I think your attitude is very fair and neutral btw and I was just hoping the video to get to an analysis of Dugin’s own words, not others’. What’s the point of having access to non-Western sources if, in the end, they sound just like an opinion? I’ll watch the first part, though.
@@user-rq3rj2hk3w even if you stopped at the Spiegel article, you would still have heard me explain very clearly why I chose those scholars. Not only that, but the Spiegel article literally quotes Dugin's own words, which is what you wanted. The scholars I quoted give very direct examples. They tell you exactly which aspects of Dugin's theory they are critiquing and why they do or don't think it is fascism. Here are some examples, which cite or even quote Dugin's own words and articles.
* from fascism he takes the myth of a transcendent people, a cyclical view of time in terms of decline and rise, and much more
* Dugin wants to dispense with fascism’s racism and its flirtation with biological determinism, but not with its ultranationalism or militaristic imperialism
* Dugin’s active use of the term “conservatism” also continues his earlier strategy of camouflaging his doctrine with terminology that fits Russian and international political correctness
* While at the fringe of Russia’s political life, in the early-mid 1990s, Dugin described his own ideology frankly as a program of the “Conservative Revolution,” a construct he explicitly used to define fascism
* When he started drawing closer to the establishment, however, Dugin put more emphasis on labels like “Eurasian” or “Traditionalist” although his “neo-Eurasianist” ideology, in important regards, sharply diverges from both classical Eurasianism and Integral Traditionalism
* Dugin has enthusiastically predicted the rise of a Russian true “fascist fascism” in his article "Fascism - borderless and red
I ussed Griffin's definition of fascism since it is the standard academically accepted definition. It has become the scholarly consensus, used especially by the International Association for Comparative Fascist Studies.
"Otherwise, I think your attitude is very fair and neutral btw and I was just hoping the video to get to an analysis of Dugin’s own words, not others’."
Thank you. The first video laid out his theory extensively, in his own words.
"What’s the point of having access to non-Western sources if, in the end, they sound just like an opinion? "
I don't think they sound like just opinion. These are reasoned views from scholars who have studied Dugin for at least 20 years. They are literally specialists, who not only provide their analysis but explain their reasons.
@@veritasetcaritas Yeah, the International Association for Comparative Fascist Studies uses Griffin's definition because - surprise, surprise - Griffin is the founder of this "high-end" Association. It's like saying "I'm right bc I said so; I am the consensus". And I see that you're into writing but, again, there were no quotes in your list of examples... They very much sound like opinions. I'm sure if I find the articles, there will be quotes and examples, I just hope they have a wider scope than this one Griffin guy.
@@user-rq3rj2hk3w no this isn't true. You're confusing several issues.
1. I didn't cite Griffin as an authority on fascism. I cited him for the meaning of "palingenetic ultranationalism". That is entirely legitimate because he was the person who coined the term, so his definition of palingenetic ultranationalism is correct.
2. Griffin's definition of fascism became the scholarly consensus a very long time ago, whereas COMFAS is barely 9 years old. So COMFAS is using the definition which had already become the scholarly consensus. It has nothing to do with any sinister influence by Griffin, for which you provide no evidence. So no, rthi sis not a case of him saying "I am right because I said so". It's a case of him coming up with a definition all the way back in 1991, and the academy debating that definition and discussing it for yeras, and it gradually becoming scholarly consensus.
You claim "there were no quotes in your list of examples", but there were. They are even on screen, complete with quotation marks.
Why is no mention of the 2014 coup in Ukraine?
Because this is a description of Dugin's ideology, not a history of Ukraine's fight for independence.
@@veritasetcaritasA coup funded and supported by the US by far right borderline Nazis is a fight for independence? You don't know anything about Ukraine or Russia so you repeat your masters propaganda.
@@veritasetcaritas dependence on the west you mean
@@latviankhan2989 as opposed to dependence on Russia? But hey, it's not all bad baby, I hear that Lugansk just got mobile internet for the first time in 9 years. That's progress.
@@noco7243 😂, where did you read about this? westoid wet dream dairy? 😂
100% incorrect interpretation of Dugin views. This confusion rooted in not understanding the nature of linguistic and its dependence on context. Slavic languages are much more contextual than english, that makes definitions of concepts more complex. In slavic tradition "Imperia" means unified populous. It is very similar to Federation. The difference is Federation united by abstract Laws, Imperia is unified by a story, history, land and the idea of one destiny, lead by a human embodiment of that idea. Emperor is seen just like umpire in business of country, arbitrator, father figure. Like people in a family are united by common destiny, people of one country share the destiny. It has nothing to do with fascism. Think yourself - Russians pride self on myliti nationality. You say yourself "Eurasian identitarianism." Eurasian means combination of cultures of Europe and Aisa - multinational identity - it is opposite to definition of fascism.
This has nothing to do with misunderstanding "Slavic languages". Dugin is literal and fluent in English, and is easily able to make himself understood. As I demonstrated from my quotations of his own words in this video and the previous video, when he speaks of empire and imperialism that is exactly what he means. In particular, he means Russian exceptionalism, with the Russian state ruling over vassal states. The term "Eurasian" does not mean "combination of cultures". It means the people of the Eurasian continent. Additionally, you totally avoided the term "identitarianism", which is the opposite of multiculturalism. Dugin is against multiculturalism. I notice you didn't quote anything from Dugin.
You can support multinational identity and still be a fascist. Oswald Mosley did. The Brazilian Integralists did
@@BoneistJ That might help me make sense of more 'moderate' sections of the far right in the US.
Did you seriously say "unified by a story, history, land and the idea of one destiny, lead by a human embodiment of that idea. Emperor is seen just like umpire in business of country, arbitrator, father figure. Like people in a family are united by common destiny, people of one country share the destiny" and then follow it up with "It has nothing to do with fascism"? You do realise that your description sounds *exactly* like fascism, right? The obsession with national history and identity, the conflation of people and land, the construction of narrative 'myths', the idea of a 'leader' who 'embodies' the national ideal, the leader as a 'father figure' and the emphasis on 'family', the teleological projection of a national 'destiny'... All of these are easy to see as important defining elements of the Nazi version in particular but a lot of it is also evident in Italian fascism and other versions.
Я скажу только одно - Дугин не нацист и не фашист. Он - нацбол. А вот тот, кто не видит разницы между нацболами и фашистами - не должны про них говорить.
As a queer Jew child to Jews from USSR, rashist thug
He isnt even a National Bolshevik...
He used to be, long time ago ( like 20-30 years ago )
Hes simply a fourth political theory ideologist. Thats it.
Dumbasses try to fit him into fascism because they are scared of his ideas snowballing and taking the spotlight out of western marxists...
Because most of those who bitch about Dugin being "Fascist" are western marxists and liberals, because Chinese folks couldnt care less about all this "Fascism" accusations..
Typical Baizuo behaviour...
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