@@TylerRayPittman There's nothing hard at using arch. Everything is xplained already, copy pasting is not hard. So unless you are about setting up something very specific, no systemd for example, manjaro is as good as hard and will teach u as little or much as arch.
@Sosuke Aizen yeah, the manual tells you how to do everything and gives you great examples on how to make your own customized build. I tried Guix on one of my notebooks and that was difficult because of the restrictive kernel
I've been an Arch user for 7 years, but I'm actually thinking of going with Manjaro on my next computer. Arch has been extremely educational; but I no longer have the free-time I used to have, and having a distro that can configure the things I don't have time to configure, while still allowing me to configure whatever I want, seems like a great thing.
I can't recommend Manjaro enough! A rolling distro with well-tested updates (so near cutting-edge), multiple desktop environments, AUR (Arch User Repo), fantastic hardware support (mhwd) *including* Nvidia Optimus! Again with Optimus, this is also the easiest distro to install and configure: Literally NO manual installing at all... This is also a good middle-ground between fixed and rolling release.
In theory you are right. In reality all three of my attempts to use Manjaro failed either during installation or ended when the first update broke the OS. Meanwhile I once used Antergos for half a year without any issues even though people apparently don't like the installer for some reason. Manjaro sounds great but it just doesn't like me.
The same happened to me. I migrated to Manjaro a few months ago and 3 days later an update completely broke my system. I couldn't even get a tty to try to fix things up. All I would get was a black screen and know key combination that I could think of would get me out of there. Of course that I could just boot a Live version, search for a fix, chroot into my broken and install and apply it. However, if a simple update to a mostly vanilla system is able to break it to this point... how can I trust to run this distro as my daily driver? I don't need mission critical stability of a hardened Ubuntu LTS, Red Hat, CentOS or Debian Stable, but I just can't be left wondering if a few package updates are going to leave my system in the dust.
Manjaro - Arch without the commitment - With the Manjaro team testing the Arch releases before letting Manjaro get it means there's a level of assurance on a rolling release that it will not brick your system. - All praise the AUR! - Has enough GUI tools to harness the power of Arch without needing to worry about it for those that need them - Gorgeous professional interface - Every element is easy to tweak into what you want
Moved to Manjaro after using Ubuntu for 5 years, I'm impressed. Support and solutions to problems specially if they are not very common problems are not as easy to find as with Ubuntu.
I'm using manjaro cinnamon and I agree best distro. Only thing I've noticed is certain SteamPlay games I will get worse performance than people with lesser GPUs. And I can't figure out what else if anything I need to do. If it's just luck of the draw or what.
@John Smith no i never experienced something like that. maybe it was a bug if you are talking about a previous version. if it's the current version it's best to report that. maybe it doesn't have to do with kde. i honestly have no idea. one thing i know for sure is that kde is buggy and bloated but i have no better option. i could use xfce(or mate)+compiz but it's too much work for me. i also don't like xfce (at least not in my personal computer) @Roget Kou too much work for me. when i have the time (maybe at christmas) i will give arch a try.
All Arch based distributions have the AUR, which is already a killer feature. It's the greatest user repository in the Linux world, and I haven't yet found a package which is not there. Plus, Arch Linux doesn't force you to use a specific set of tools / applications. You can choose what to use. What Manjaro does is apply this philosophy to a newbie-friendly Linux distro, which is also perfect for power users for the reasons above. And it has some additional tools built-in which make it easy to perform specific tasks, such as switching kernels, installing hardware, setting languages, etc.
And their "built in tools" tend to be the cause of 99% of the breaks. See the warning against using Octopi from the Arch Wiki: wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers
I wouldn't use KDE, which seems to be the source of most issues with Manjaro. Personally I'm using Cinnamon and never had any issues with Manjaro on two separate PC's with any tools provided by the Manjaro devs. If I did choose to use KDE I would install Pamac or just use Pacman in the command line to avoid issues. Octopi is garbage.
1. The arch philosophy is that "It is a do it yourself (DIY) distribution" and Manjaro is breaking that philosophy 2. Even if Arch User Repository is the biggest repository with all kinds of software, it is also the least secure one, you don't know what a PKGBUILD file provides if you are using those idiotic GUI's 3. Arch does force you to use specific set of tools, GNU for coreutils, mkinitcpio for initial ram filesystem, systemd for init, and stuff like that. If you want an actual "Use whatever tool you want, do what ever you want" distribution there is Gentoo and other source based distributions
@@tcreeperrblx8682 1. The Arch philosophy is actually "Keep it simple". The "Do it yourself" is a consequence of it. 2. Yes, but it's still better than not having anything. 3. You're right. But still, the number of tools it forces you to use is much lower than other distributions. Having an operating system which doesn't force you to use _any_ tool at all means developing it yourself, since the Linux kernel itself is a tool.
ohhh God that profound comment never seen before !!! I use systems based on Debian and Redhat for something very simple, I use .deb and .rpm pkg. "Come on Dave, gimme a break"
@Nour Benaboud pacman is the package manager for Arch and Arch-based distros. It's what is used to update, remove, and install packages on Arch distros. AUR is the Arch User Repository. Think of it as a source for packages. There's the default Arch repositories that is maintained by the Arch team and packages added are usually done by the Arch team, but the AUR is the User repository where anyone can add a package to. Its very large and contains a lot of packages and software that are not in the default arch repository. eg. If you wanted to install Discord or Spotify, you could either compile them yourself, or use the AUR package(s) to install them for you which is a bit easier.
Speaking of Manjaro's "awesome" hardware support, I had so much trouble using Manjaro in five days I've tested it. My microphone was recorded with scratch sounds, the GRUB screen freezed each third system start, my WiFi card didn't work and many other small problems. Then I re-installed Mint and everything worked out of the box. I'm now using Mint 19 Cinnamon and I'm happy with it. What's important for me is easy usability without doing (many) tweaks.
well shits not always compatible i installed manjaro on my 10 yr old laptop everything worked right away but then when i tried to set up a dual boot on my current pc which has newer shit inside it gave me many problems
Manjaro was my first ever distro because one of my friends recommended it to me, I had an old laptop lying around so I booted it up and installed it. As a first time Linux user I was extremely confused. I spend a good 2 hours trying to figure out how to install something. I picked up some knowledge from using Manjaro a few days. So switched to Ubuntu, and I learned a whole lot about linux from there. I decided Ubuntu was somewhat slow for my old laptop, then I decided I would switch to Debian, I used Debian for around 2 months before downloading Arch and messing around with it. Arch is (for now) my laptops current distro. So, I thank Manjaro for getting me started with my Linux journey.
I really like those shades of turquoise and orange that Manjaro uses for its branding. That actually might be why I like the color theme of Pop! OS, too, as it's pretty similar. But smooth driver support makes Manjaro really attractive for me.
I was a Linux noob... using Ubuntu you can install steam from the software center (store) or use the simple > sudo install steam && upgrade { ps. use && to merge and run two commands at once } password for admin xxxxxxx x data will be installed continue? y/n Y . install complete as a Linux user to another please learn some of the commands, please. it makes things much faster and less bloated OS's across the board.
@@magick2006 hey I am getting Gud m8. saw what conical was up to recently with AWS and I am scrambling in VMs to pick a new distro with VLC and steam support.
The most popular Linux (according to Distrowatch's ranking, which is not perfect) changes by waves of a few years It used to be Mandrake (now discontinued), then Ubuntu, then Mint, and now Manjaro. Give it some time and Manjaro will most likely be replaced by something else. Why is that so? Well, it seems to follow some pattern: 1. one distribution is popular, but a new one does something slightly different (e.g. a different package manager, desktop environment) 2. the outsider gets some traction and becomes the more popular 3. the new popular becomes a bit "stale", or does something unpopular (e.g. Ubuntu: introducing some kind of "store", links to Amazon, the controversial Unity desktop that got discontinued, etc.) and people switch to another distribution that does not have those problems (e.g. Mint). So back to 1, the cycle repeats.
The good thing is that it has a good base, Arch. I personally just gave up on distro hopping and went for Debian as my go-to. For me it was a good in-between Arch and Mint. It gave me a solid base that was customizable, but it didn't come with so much bloat for excessive hand-holding (for my experience, not everyone's). It sounds like Manjaro does something similar with its Arch base. Not bad.
I'm watching on a windows 10 machine :v but I have used Linux before. I've been thinking about making the full switch again and just having a Windows 10 VM using QEMU (KVM with PCI-E pass-through :p)
I have been using Debian & Debian Spins since 2010. One thing I love about it is apt, and the ability to have a continous update cycle. Rather than reinstalling the system every few years, or doing a giant upgrade every so often, I much prefer to stick to testing, and frequently run apt-get dist-upgrade to update the few packages that have changed since I last run the command.
Yes, don't you just love rolling distros? I have been using aptosid and sidux for a couple of years - those were debian sid based (stable is too outdated for everyday use, imho). Then I went to pure debian, testing, just like you, for a while. After breaking the system, I installed manjaro and never looked back Recently I installed antix linux on vbox - it's debian stable, but you can go to testing or sid. I have switched to sid, and running it for a week or so, but one thing I can say, apt is so slooooow compared to pacman...
Debian is my goto Distribution for Family members (like my mother, aunt etc). They only use the browser for things like facebook, browser games etc and sometimes Libreoffice, thats it. I love how rockstable Debian is, with users like stated above, it can never break. I also love that i can rely on Debian that it does not break the system when i upgrade ... hell i can even setup that apt checks for updates once a week and updates (if there are new packages) automatically, without me beeing near my aunt or mother. Thats how much i trust debian. ps: Manjaro did not break for me, but i always have this slight "pls dont break anything" feeling everytime i run updates. I simply do not have that feeling with debian.
The last thing you said really made me interested. It's not for new users, it doesn't pretend to be another OS path into Linux; it's Linux for what Linux users want... Gotta try it.
I read the comments and I would like add my opinion to the story. I was a OS jumper for years until I found Apricity OS with GNOME. It was a great start but it died. I tried to use Ubuntu,Fedora,Opensuse,CentsOS, Elementary OS, KDE Neon, Kubuntu , Xubunutu, Antergos , Architect , Arch , Puppy OS , Voyager , Deepin OS many times but it was a failure all the time. Now I am running manjaro KDE edition on my machines and I never want to go back to windows or the other distros again. Just for the record: It has some problems but it just works most of the time and if you have any problem you can ask the community! (Not like other distros or like Windows...) If you want to have a easy to install and stable operating system with great community use Manjaro! If you want to use your system for business use Opensuse or Debian! If you want to thinker with the system use Arch! Ditch the others and be happy camper :D P.S.: I never mentioned the Ubuntu distro for a reason. They managed broke all the time if I used AMD or NVIDIA drivers for my notebook....
I've actually found Antergos to be a more stable arch based distro for me personally. I ran it (Antergos) for a long stretch of time with very few minor problems. On the other hand Manjaro breaks often after updates for me on various systems that I own.
Hey #ShaTer, I ran Fedora for the same length of time as Antergos on a different machine and actually liked it very much. Fedora was probably the longest running distro's I've run of all I tried. I just got bored with it after a while, but i may go back to it again when fedora 29 is released.
I have been off the Manjaro train for quite a while now. Started using it when it first surfaced on several laptops. The updates broke the system way too many times and now Manjaro is history.
I was a Manjaro user for about 3 years, loved my time with it, the community is/was brilliant at one time but I haven't been there for a while now. Right now, my son is using Sparky MM for music recording with his guitar on a toshiba laptop, and I am using MX-Linux as a Live USB on a 500GB HDD through the same laptop since my own system went BANG. I have to say, the MX Linux guys have done an amazingly brilliant job of MX, solid as a rock, and from USB3 the speed difference isn't really that noticeable. Sparky is another very under rated little distro, I have yet to have any problems with it at all! MX Linux is catching up fast! 1 Manjaro 3607> 2 MX Linux 3578> 3 Mint 2198> 4 elementary 1782> 5 Ubuntu 1428> 6 Debian 1251> 7 Fedora 987> 8 Solus 968> 9 openSUSE 828> 10 Zorin 725> 11 ReactOS 666>
Been using LXDE for over a yr now, installed in 10 minutes with a flash drive. It's my daily driver & is stable as day 1 got my printer set up over WiFi my 10 yr old Dell rocks!👍
The idea that Manjaro is "desktop agnostic" is not fully true. They are as close to agnostic between XFCE, Gnome, and KDE/Plasma as you can get. But the community versions can be lacking features compared to distros that favor those desktops. For example, a lot of the applet controls in the Raven panel in Budgie that work perfectly in Solus don't work in the current 19.0.2 release of Manjaro.
I switched to Manjaro xfce from Ubuntu because Ubuntu was too ram-hungry on my older system. The switch was a big relief to my ram modules and a big boost in speed in general. There is no reason to go elsewhere. Manjaro's popularity is by no means an accident, it is perfect for those of us who love to tinker and learn. I've been learning Linux with it for about five years on the same old hardware and I couldn't be happier. A couple of big updates broke it a few years back but that problem was eliminated by updating through terminal. It's been perfectly stable for over three years of everyday use. I appreciate your honest look at this distro, thank you.
I gave in to the hype and hopped to Manjaro. Holy shit, the bloatware it comes with and sure I can remove it one way or another but annoying part is that no talks about it.
I've been a debian user for quite a while, still run it at work, but the reason I switched to manjaro on my laptop, is because it just works out of the box. On debian and mint I had to manually change grub settings to remember the last OS I booted to (got a dual boot setup with windows), or to switch off touch input when I use the pen, but all these things are already taken care off on manjaro. It reduces the time I have to spend tweaking the OS and allows me to spend more of the time on the actual work I want to do. I can't say I was particularly impressed with the package manager though, it has good and bad sides to it. I can install aur packages by just adding a checkmark in the settings when using the gui, but can't do an equivalent of "apt autoremove" without an alphabet soup of unintelligible options that I have no chance of ever remembering when I don't have internet access. They could definitely improve usability on that front.
Just installed this. No sound from my Creative Soundblaster Z, also it seemed to have frozen during installing updates. Oh, well, back to mint, will try this in virtualbox or on my esx-host.
I love Manjaro! I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I still like Windows for guaranteed games support, but I was sick of paying $100+ for an operating system every time I upgraded my CPU and motherboard. I have played around with other Linux distros (Ubuntu many times, Mint, and Debian). There was just something about them that never kept my attention, until I came upon Manjaro. From the first time I installed it on a 2010 Macbook until today, I have enjoyed the experience. So much so that I dumped Windows all together after I found out that Valve incorporated Steam Play into Steam, and broadened the range of Windows games that will work on Linux. Granted not all of my games work, but I don't care. Getting used to another operating system definitely has its challenges but Manjaro had made that adjustment a lot easier. I remember spending many hours trying to figure out the Debian based distros and finding them very frustrating. Even though I have come across some growing pains with Manjaro I still love it. Recommend 100%! System specs: CPU: Intel i7 6700 (Had a 6700K but it died and the non-K was on sale at Micro Center.) CPU Cooler: Cryorig H7 with Corsair ML120 Pro fan replacing the Cryorig fan. Motherboard: ASUS Z170-AR RAM: 16GB Kingston HyperX DDR4 @ 2400MHz GPU: MSI GTX 1080 Armor 8G OC SSD: 1TB Samsung 850 EVO Case: Fractal Design Define S Case Fans: 2 Front Corsair ML140 Pro, and 1 more ML 140 Pro in the rear. PSU: EVGA 750W Supernova G2
Same for me. about 5 years ago, I spent about 2 weeks each on 3 different distros (including Manjaro). They were all buggy as hell and lots of other weird issues. The current distros, especially Manjaro, solved over 90% of those issues.
I liked Mint when they had KDE, but when I had to find a new KDE distro and found Manjaro, I was actually glad. I like Chakra in theory, but not in practice. One thing that I think helps is "pacman -Syu" for updates. I don't know for sure if that's why my system has been rock-solid for 2ish years now, but "pacman -Syu" for every update I have done, and absolute rock-solid it has been.
Fairly new to linux. tried Pure OS on a reccomendation and hated it. Tried mint, but had awful issues with graphics drivers. Downloaded Manjaro a few days ago, Had a few glitches and issues but the support was so good, i even managed to get to grips with basic command line. So, so far am loving it.
Mint is an excellent distro, but their main version has always been buggy for me. I just installed Linux Mint Debian Edition and already it's been a much better overall experience. I had some trouble installing, but that was due to a corrupted iso file, once I got that fixed it went off without a hitch! Granted, my hardware is old, so YMMV with newer hardware, but everything seems to be working, and the Debian Edition even uses less RAM than its Ubuntu based brother. I might give Manjaro a chance if I ever get tired of LMDE, but for my current setup I'm looking for something stable. Maybe I'll get more experimental on my laptop though, I'm currently running Fedora there, but looking for a change, and I want to go to a rolling release, I'm tired of the update cycle, I'd rather just get new features added constantly once they are stable. A rolling release is very appealing. I've been eyeing Fedora Rawhide, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, and other rolling releases as my next move, butI might consider Manjaro too.
I have tried to use Manjaro three times as my daily driver, on 2 separate PCs. Both times everything would be fine for a couple of weeks and than I would get an update that would break something and the OS refused to startup. I am not an advanced user, but I know how to Google my way out of problems. But... Not once have I manages to fix the problem with a broken Manjaro update. At that point I just gave up on it. Last time I tried was probably 8 months ago. Too bad because Manjaro felt really fast and responsive, definitely the fastest linux distro I have tried. In the end I went back to Ubuntu because there was never an update that ruined it to the point where it refused to boot to desktop.
I became so desperate to get away from Windows that I began looking at any alternative. I've never found any OS that interested me until Linux Mint. I admit I don't know much about the command line because I've been spoiled by the ease of use that Windows provided but I've been learning as I go and I'm very impressed with Linux Mint so far. It's only been a week or so since I installed it and if it should all go south in the next little while I will stick with it.
Been using Manjaro as a primary desktop environement for dev (python & JS). So far I've had fewer issues and it took me less time to set it up than I needed with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS :o
I have used Linux Mint, KDE Neon,, Zorin and Kubuntu all are good, but they all had their issues with stability. Kubuntu for example would "forget" some of my key bindings for no reason. I've been using Manjaro (KDE) for 3 months as my daily driver and have had zero issues. Just love it. I'm done distro hopping.
I currently have Windows 10 on one computer and Linux Mint on another. At work, I'm stuck with Windows 10. I support an application running on windows, and in the past couple months things started breaking without any indication of what changed. I was tearing my hair out while trying to find out what was wrong. I thought there was something I did wrong. Turns out, Microsoft pushed an update that broke things. Once we got MS's fix, all is well. Thank you Microsoft, I had a great time. At least it didn't affect my usage of Windows at home. I'm giving serious thought to leaving MS behind. The only reason I haven't switched to Linux is because I play World of Warcraft, and I don't believe there is a Linux version. I am, however, becoming bored with it. I should give Manjaro a look.
Brian Schuetz if windows had snapshots like zfs and Btrfs u could of rolled back with a command just to test if it was a patch that screwed u in minutes. Then rolled it forward again to test again. I am to looking into Linux. Wow will work but I have to jump some hoops. I use windows OS X z/os z/vse z/vm Unix at my job. Using Linux on old hardware to bring it back to life and learning network penetration and zfs. Am I switching ...wouldn’t call it switching since I am on so many platforms..just adding other tools in my tool box
I had only ever used Windows until recently. The most confusing things with trying Linux distro's are garbage on the screen, error messages as the messages flash by and just freezing. The worst thing of searching for help is the assumption that you know where things are in a particular distro. I have also put so much crap into a distro, trying to get something working, that it was easier for me to reinstall and start again. This also helped to see if I could replicate getting something working again. I couldn't. I have only managed to get Pop OS and Manjaro to install successfully so far. I like PoP OS. I find the Manjaro gui too Windows like. I am trying to get away from Windows. My intention is to try some programming with some version of Linux. One youtube video that looked helpful said Manjaro. I had tried it before and gotten the garbage on screen and gave it away. Pop OS just did everything right when trying the distro and installing it. The youtuber I was watching for what to install for a development powerhouse was doing the selecting too fast and it was hard to follow. I get put off easily and that put me off. I shutdown and went food shopping. I don't think I really needed everything that the youtuber was talking about. The problem now is hiw to get back to a more or else basic installation. Reinstall or try getting something going with Pop OS. The thing I didn't know when I started with Linux few weeks back are there are forums on a lot of things that can help. I don't join them I just read what is there. I am hoping to learn more of how the computer interacts with the operating system too.
I downloaded and installed manjaro after being with ubuntu for a few years and could see an immediate difference in performance. I have 18 xcfe on an older laptop with below average specs
Manjaro (/mənˈdʒɑːroʊ/) is good, but pure Arch, which it is based on, works better for me. However Manjaro is a great choice for an average user to get into Arch universe :) Great video!
Being a former noob at Linux, I'm going to give the most trite tip of all time to get better: Read the archwiki. You've heard it a million times but this really is it. Slow down and read it properly instead of skimming over the details and then complaining it's too complicated (I did this). It has virtually everything you need (recommended applications, installation and configuration, troubleshooting for common problems, etc). Good luck on your journey!
Mint used to be good, but now it's crap. Desktop is to heavy (all of them), driver support for older hardware is virtually non-existent, can't switch Kernel's on-the-fly, doesn't come with Mesa support out of the box etc, etc, etc...
Been on Manjaro Plasma about a year. I like the rolling release. At first I was having mouse freezing issues. With eash new kernel, that issue has improved. Now almost never freezes. I like the ease of customization. Very stable.
One of the reasons I have left Windows 10 (pro) is that it's not really a professional operating system in the way Windows 7 could be setup as. Having updates and abrupt restarts is just really the surface issues. But to be constantly updating, growing in size is a bigger, not talked about issue. One of the reasons I love Mint is simply because of this. It takes a little work, but you can update only critical parts of your os when you want. Like for me a friday evening, if Mint has 10 updates I could let it do it's thing without missing a beat. Now with a rolling release such as this options are limited and like Windows 10, it's forced upon you. Miss a couple of updates and you might end up with a broken system. That's a stumbling block for me. At least it seems what packages are updated seem to be more consistent. Windows 10 will update and just add bloat and god knows what else in the process. I've had multiple clients suffer from this. Another reason I tend to stay with Mint is it just works. Think of it this way. Yes, it's older more stable software, it's not bleeding edge at all. In fact Mint has been around since 2006, I don't think much has changed as far as look and feel and as a plus workflow. Workflow and stability on a production computer are absolutely critical to getting anything done. Thus why I shy away from Manjaro. But, I do think it's an awesome OS, and the community needs people who are willing to play with the bleeding edge of life, it's how things become stable.
Chiriac Puiu Agreed but that's just more mucking around and that was my point. Not that even Windows 7 was ready to go 'out of box' but Windows 10 is a whole other level. I am all about setting things up and stuff, I don't mind playing with the nuts and bolts so to speak. But with Windows 10 you've got hours of work that must be done. I can optimize Windows 7 in under an hour. Especially on anything modern and pretend your a new be but you've got extensive work that you've got to do. But before that you've gotta setup Windows 10... to be useful. Talk about a curve. For all the gripes one could say about Linux, Mint does this job pretty well. But so did Windows 7. no candy crush thank you!
I watched the whole video, the main problem I have is that you didn't use Manjaro extensively, or at least trough some updates. The result is that your video tells one story, while the comments tell another. And I've read ALL the comments, not just few on the top. TBH I don't feel you have actually answered the question that is the video title. But hey, this is 2018 and people mostly make stuff for views....
I agree with you, same for me (watched video and read all comments). Nonetheless it is an interesting video as a pure introduction to three main points that are valid. Even if people disagree on the updates breaking the system. But for most normal people (not geeks) stability is a must have. I am a geek. I had bad luck finding bugs (critical or too annoying). So I stopped upgrading with Fedora 24. Cannot have a dozen windows and see the system crash every few days. Imagine having to remember everything that was open. And hope nothing has been broken. For years on server I get the source, compile it, and install it. So I always have the stable versions picked by me. I judge was is stable. On the desktop, pray and old stable version detects and runs all the new hardware. My two cents.
@@movement2contact Me not using Manjaro. Looking into it for reviews and user comments. Just this video and thread alone, provides enough insight to guess: Manjaro is not stable enough for most users (not technical, not geeks).
@@JordiFerran I'm a Linux nub and I had Manjaro last year on my work laptop, and I really liked it. But I had to switch back to Win10 soon, because of software we needed to use. Now I've gotten really fed up with Microsoft's incompetece and disregard to privacy, so I'm moving either Manjaro or FreeBSD soon.
Speaking as a home user and only for myself (we take a Win laptop and, maybe plus on road trips) I love Manjaro. i3 and BSPWM are exceptional window managers and Cinnamon is relatively light on resources and very polished. Been using this distro over four years now. Most of the problems I have had, were things I could have avoided if I had read the warnings and/or instructions first. In almost all SNAFU's either a search engine or the forum or wiki allowed me to fix the self inflicted breakages. And the community is the best ever!
The first thing I ran into when trying out Manjaro Budgie was the package manager(s I guess.) I love that you only need to run one command to update and upgrade in sequence, I hate that this is another Linux command line app that expects you to remember what arbitrary letter and capitalization that the person who programmed it thought would be perfect to do what at that particular time. Yes it saves time later on but looking at -Skfl kks qqf after every program name is not exactly intuitive for someone that never touched Arch in their life. I call these MANsplaining apps. =3
I'm using manjaro for over 1 year . Why I preffered and stay on that distro ; it is robust, stable , configurable , it looks professional, it has a strong community, you can find anything about manjaro in the internet, it is harmonic , it has good looking interface, and it makes you feel that you are using a real computer(I dont know this is why:) ). It is fun to run in manjaro.
apt-get is clumsy and will never shut up wining about dependencies: kali, ubuntu, elementary (especially), you name it. and 'ppa business' is simply hugging exhausting.
I actually like APT. It allows me to download and install a program with one simple command. However, I heard that in Manjaro Linux, this is made even simpler, so I am pretty excited to find that out. I am going to install Manjaro Linux in a virtual machine to find out whether this is a distribution for me. :-D
Mark Wiering So... Have you switched to Manjaro yet? If yes, what flavor (like KDE, Xfce, GNOME, CINNAMON, etc)? If not, then what distro are you currently using?
After having used Ubuntu-based distros for years, I moved to Manjaro and I loved it! Still use it on my laptops, and my main PC runs Arch (Manjaro taught me the way Arch worked).
I installed manjaro once, but when I installed vmware it immediately had gcc incompatibility. I installed what gcc version it asked for but it just woudn't work . I have seen this before with debian stretch and said screw this I am going back to mint. Manjaro isn't for everyone, especially for people like me who just want a stable system.
The hardware detection in Manjaro is what made me move to this distribution. I’ve got a couple of laptops that are a hassle to install others distros, but work great with Manjaro.
@Donald Mickunas I have experienced some system issues after an update (not an upgrade) while using Kubuntu. Wasn't a showstopper. However, while I was a Sys admin once upon a time, I don't have the time or patience to deal with stuff that shouldn't happen after all these years. I use a computer as a ludite these days. I just want it to work. I don't want to mess with config files. It's nice having a system where I don't have to. I can if I want. But really, I don't want to. Manjaro hasn't failed me at all. Updates and upgrades haven't caused a single issue for me. Manjaro with KDE runs miles faster than Kubuntu. Boots quicker, loads plasma faster, dolphin opens quicker. It's just a better system in general. And at first, having been so use to PPA's I was confused and unsure of AUR and my experience with Pacman in the past was horrible when I once administered a SuSE installation for someone. I was in dependency hell. But it works. And it works better. I made a USB boot drive with a Manjaro ISO, wiped my / partition. Keeping my /home partition, installed Manjaro. Half an hour later I was completely set up like nothing happened. See ya (K)Ubuntu. You have been good, but you're antiquated. You're old. You've become complacent and stale.
I used Mint for a month, then realised that a lot of the packages in its manager were outdated. Krita 2.x, for example, was the last update they had, while Krita 4.0 had already been out. I formatted the disk and installed manjaro. I am a very happy Arch noob now :)
I ran Manjaro for a while. It was my stepping stone to straight Arch. Which I dual boot, from separate drives, not just partitions, as I don't care for WINE or such to run games. I see a lot of comments here of Manjaro breaking after updates; however, I did not have this issue myself, from the number of times I see this, I wonder if it is not hardware related. Since I don't try to modify to run games, and I keep other OS's completely separated, I may not have run into some of the issues others have had with this great distro. Sadly, MidFingr passed away a couple of years ago. Fortunately, his family knew how much people loved him and left his Manjaro videos up. They are some of the best on the web. So, if you want to give Manjaro a try, start with his videos. I used a lot from him when I switched to Arch.
I've been running Manjaro on my machine for about five years now. I won't say I have not had any problems, yes, sometimes an update will "break" something, but so far, it's never been anything that stopped the machine from working. Usually it's an issue with graphics, particularly Compiz-Reloaded issues, which is kind fo to be expected. Once in a while, Firefox will act weird, not showing som pictures or being unable to display text on a few pages, but again, nothing that is a deal breaker, and nothing I couldn't fix with some minor google searches (or help on the forums) I love the cutting edge nature, the package management system, the speed, and how easily it can be customized. And the rolling release model is one of my favorite things.
It would have been far more rational if you tried Manjaro first and then made this video. I’m sure your conviction about the stability of Manjaro will change if you use it for a long run - say, six month or so. Reason is breakage of something or the other after an update. Another thing is if you use it with any other Linux distro in a dual-boot scenario, then you have to be prepared for the ominous “kernel panick” every now and then. Now, the frequency of these things has greatly reduced nowadays, but they are there nonetheless. Taking instability into account, it is really far-fetched to call rolling release models “the future”. Because, nobody, even the nerdiest of Linux users, don’t want a broken system with latest and greatest packages. Do they? I used Manjaro extensively over the last year. Despite some system crashes, I really enjoyed it! Especially after 17.0.2, it became a delight to use! But as with any other rolling releases, the “update fatigue” got me down. Really, how much updates can you need for a running system? Do you really need the latest packages to run an OS? What is the guarantee that the latest kernel that came after the latest update will drive your machine better than the previous one? And add to all that the occasional stoppage of updates altogether because you have search and remove some packages in order to run them. Whew..... Eventually, the updates bothered me so much that I thought they were coming in the way of using the system. So I jumped ship to KDE Neon on that system. My other main system runs OpenSUSE leap. As for the distrowatch rankings, I tend to believe that the dropping of KDE by the Linux Mint team had a huge impact in its user-base. And Manjaro filled that void.
@Joe Johnson You seem really frustrated. I can understand. Although I did not have any problems regarding firewall and wifi, I did encounter some strange stuff when installing printers and scanners. Sometimes it detects them but could not perform any operation. Sometimes they vanish altogether from your configuration and you had to reconfigure them. So I decided to use then from my other machine which runs OpenSUSE or Linux Mint. The "wiseguy replies" are real on all the forums related to Arch and derivatives. You are quite right to point that out. The forum members assume that you know a great deal of software and OS and they reply accordingly. That is why I never recommend Arch and derivatives to those people who do not want to spend a great deal of their time tinkering with the system rather than using it. So, what are you using now?
@Joe Johnson Goodness me, you're still seething in anger! If you open the Arch wiki and read the "Why would I not use Arch" section in FAQ, you'll find the first point mentioned as do-it-yourself. The entire philosophy of Arch Linux is predicated on this DIY. People who enjoy this, enjoy Arch; moreover, they also expect others to do so. And that is the root of the problem. There are some problems, like setting up wifi properly(which you mentioned), simply cannot be solved easily. You have to seek some advice and do it mostly via the command line. If you get it from the internet, fine. But if you do not find it, you have to go to the forum where many folks think themselves as gurus or omniscient. Their replies are cryptic, so you don't understand and ask more questions. Then starts ominous "you don't even know this??" stuff and all hell breaks down. Oh this is so common! You're right to leave such people and toxic environment. And you have landed on THE most perfect distro now, without a doubt! MX is the new superstar in the Linux world! I used to hate xfce, but since I discovered MX, I adore it! In both of my main machines, my alternate distro is MX. Why do I love this? Because you install it and forget it - it never comes in the way of using the machine and getting work done! You've made an excellent choice!
@@GameFreak7744 Well, when you get trolled and bullied because you've asked some questions, there isn't much you can do other than being vile. Arch forums are notorious for this. Just ask around...
Well, I've been using Manjaro for more than 6 months now on dual boot with Windows (just for the games, y'know, but that might change with Proton), and I have yet to have a single kernel panic (can't say the same about Windows and BSODs), and the only kind of "breakage" that i have experienced is when I updated a python package globally through pip instead of pacman, and then pacman was bitching about conflicts, but it was solved by simply uninstalling the package and installing it with pacman. I do agree though, that the really frequent updates can sometimes be cumbersome for some users, but that's how Manjaro and other Arch-based distros are by design (rolling release), so people who want to be on the bleeding edge of software, can choose to use them at the cost of some stability. But hey, it's not Windows, so you can actually choose when to update, and the update process is actually really fast and smooth.
Been using Manjaro before its popularity, mainly because of the hardware support, the simplicity and the lightness of the live image. Perfect for rescue, backup and fast boot.
Manjaro Linux is Arch Linux for the newbies+it's own tools+it is support probably all of the desktop environment and wm-s. This is the key for his popularity. My experience, that Linux is about customize everything, which is amazing thing. But the thing is one Linux distribution and it's community (I absolutely love Linux community) support all hardware, all desktop environment, all packages, all softwares, and this things to work together without bugs, it's not possible...
You gonna rant and rave and lie and throw your toys out the pram in _every_ comment thread Mr Johnson? Copypasting your dishonest diatribe left and right doesn't make you look reliable you know buddy.
@Joe Johnson I did try it, in fact it is my daily driver on desktop and laptop. I used it on a daily basis for almost a year now and I really enjoy it. It's not perfect by any means, but it's good. If you don't like it just switch to another distro: nobody is asking you to stick with it and by acting like this you only make a fool of yourself
@@GameFreak7744 This user is likely a troll, it's on all videos saying Manjaro sucks. It's a damn troll, don't feed him, just ignore. 'Cause of these users the Linux community is considered toxic.
Having used many distros over the years Manjaro LXDE is the one I've settled on as opposed to many Debian/Ubuntu derivatives which always seem to have a problem with my WiFi hardware (Broadcom). I use the LXDE Community Edition as my laptop is old , it's a Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2GHz, 2 GB RAM and i have to say it runs like a dream. Having access to very recent versions of software via the official repository or being able to use the AUR and having pamac-manger (Package manger GUI) build it for you is very convenient, particularly if your like me and haven't the slightest clue about compiling software. I differently recommend this distro.
I ditched Debian for Manjaro because of the rolling release. I really loved Debian but hated having to risk breaking the linux installation completely with dist-upgrade every once in a while. Manjaro really reminds me of Debian a lot without that problem. I've had the same computer for 11 years now so I really value longevity of the operating system.
@@danr8472 The point is no professional or power user CAN live without closed source software and operating systems (corporations are too powerful). That YOU still think you can only means you're a naive n00b.... like me back in 1994, messing with Slackware Linux.
I dont know why, Arch is actually really easy to install if you can follow instructions. Granted most people who want a put in USB, install it does everything for you then it ok. If you want easy to use from a Windows person, then LinuxMint. If they are coming from OSX, then Elementary OS. Easiest to install and works on just about everything I could throw at it PopOS!. I tried Manjaro and didnt like it, so I learned to install Arch and was so impressed. Got it installed and its fast, even faster than Manjaro once you get it installed.
Arch is great but not always easy to install. If your hardware is a little different have to jump through a few xtra hoops. Personally wifi setup is a pain on my laptop had to do it twice in total and nothing on the manual works correctly so took a lot more gooogling to get it setup never had issues with xorg setup tho :). Though its by far the best completely stopped thinking about distros after first started using arch. Like whats the point i can already do that easily here hehe.
I absolutely love manjaro, i tried it after i was fed up with the out of date packages and constant refreshing of PPAs that i had with Mint or Ubuntu. After i destroyed my ubuntu partition and went with Manjaro and saw it's benefits over it's cons, i never went back to ubuntu. I stopped distro hopping after finding manjaro and i could never be any happier
I use Win 10 on my main desktop. Manjaro (KDE Plasma) is the first Linux distro that felt just right to me. It looked beautiful, rock solid, everything worked, everything made sense (coming form Win). I just found it so intuitive and easy to set up I couldn't believe I was using Linux :) I have spare ancient lappy (2GHz Celeron, 2GB RAM) to have fun with installations and test out stuff. Mint 19.3 Xfce 32 bit was very laggy on it. Manjaro 18.1.5 KDE Plasma 64 bit was smooth sailing, just a joy and breeze to use. Also I use Arch now btw ;)
I did. I had to drop back a kernal due to a wierd bug, when I came back todate. There are too many conflicting dependencies, update simply refures to work.
After 5 years using Ubuntu I have decided to move to Manjaro 2 weeks ago. I'm not looking back. Using the latest releases of what I need did it for me.
I tried Manjaro out a few months ago to see what it was like and I ran into that. It doesn't inspire confidence in the distro. What happened, at least in my case, is that the installer would do its thing but no drive was set to be bootable. I did the install two or three times as I was trying several distros a few different times and I didn't notice the option out front during installation. I ended up going back into the OS on the USB stick and manually set the proper drive and partition to be bootable and that fixed the issue giving me a chance to try it out. I thought it was okay in the short time I used it, but there were things I didn't like so I didn't stick with it.
sure you were using the right version? i68 or x86_64 for instance also might be an issue with secure boot which is really easy to resolve. I really doubt theres anything wrong with manjaro in your case.
Tried manjaro this week. First impression was really great BUT .. system crashed badly several times. Once it even damaged grub. So I installed Fedora and I am happy. For me it is much better experience with fedora.
As for me: - packaging system: very important - installer guy: nice to have - multiple desktop: great, they even have manjaro i3 (the best distro ever) - hardware detection: well no too hard to deal with my hardware, but I have guess it's great - rolling release: fundamental and perfect (sometimes I break something, and it's solved in 2-3 days) - kernel switching: never tried but intriguing - last but not least: THEIR FORUM!
I really would want to be a Manjaro user but I just can’t leave Solus no matter how hard I try. The package manager on Solus is hands down the best and the boot speed and performance is amazing. It has it’s issues and problems but so have Manjaro. Manjaro is bloated, has some weird ad shit called office online to name a few. Have thought about using Ubuntu but apt is useless and it boots slow. In the Ubuntu world Pop OS and KDE Neon seem to deliver just what I want but they would be so much better if they were based on like opensuse tumbleweed or fedora in my opinion. I know a bit controversial, but I will stay with Solus until they die...
"they would be so much better if they were based on like opensuse tumbleweed" In one sentence you call an arch-based distro bloated, then you find openSuse Tumbleweed good? Tumbleweed is the most bloated distro I've ever used. It literally took 3 times as long just to boot than MX Linux on my laptop.
@@SaHaRaSquad he was referring to the fact that Ubuntu is pretty shit, (I can easily agree) and that the Debian package manager is slow (?) He would have preferred they were RPM rather than DEB based. Weird to say, for sure, but Debian itself has a pretty fantastic Linux distro.
Solus is awesome, I'd use it as my main OS but my job requires a Debian based system currently (some proprietary software that we use is only available in .deb formats). Honestly, that's been my largest pain point w/ Solus: their package system. They refuse to use .deb or anything, and I get that they have their reasons, it's just frustrating when you submit a ticket to ask for the addition of software in Solus Repos like CrossOver by CodeWeavers and they close the ticket saying contact the vendor and ask them to port it over (which I highly doubt any company is going to take the time to port over software that is literally only usable by ONE distro which comprises literally .00001 of overall Linux users). But I digress. Whatever makes you happy, I'm happy w/ Kubuntu ATM.
I have 2 computers that I use in different locations, one is Windows 10 and the other is Ubuntu. On the Ubuntu rig I have some problems when editing Godot Engine game files, and the community says this is only an issue with Ubuntu. So, this and the geek that I am, will try Manjaro - decision helped by your video, thanks :)
You pointed to one of the reasons that make me always feel weird when using linux, the "lets try to imitate MacOSX" design principles all over the place. Why try to be a MacOSX wannabe, when you can be so much more?
I was using Manjaro solidly for about a year, then something happened in Arch that made it impossible for me to control my network adapter, resulting in it being in a permanent down state even when I tried using the terminal to bring it up. I don't understand it and it forced me to switch to a different distro, which absolutely sucks because aside that one network adapter issue I absolutely adore Manjaro and I hope to go back to it someday.
I just absolutely love Arch's repositories and Wiki, it's just so advanced and well developed, I can find answers for most issues. Manjaro takes all the installing process out of the way, so I can quickly get to work.
Me: installs Manjaro
Me after 2 weeks: "I use Arch BTW"
Same lol
lol more like "I use easy mode Arch"
@@TylerRayPittman you should add "btw" at the end
@@igorordecha I use bloated arch btw
@@TylerRayPittman There's nothing hard at using arch. Everything is xplained already, copy pasting is not hard. So unless you are about setting up something very specific, no systemd for example, manjaro is as good as hard and will teach u as little or much as arch.
Im new to linux on a whole, but i want to say that these distros have the most attractive names lmao.
probably the number one thingg that got me hooked on linux was the whole sounding way better than "windows 10"
@@hellzbellz1234 or the distro I use Pop!_OS
@@hellzbellz1234 install Gentoo. The best name and easiest install
Fedora is best name
@Sosuke Aizen yeah, the manual tells you how to do everything and gives you great examples on how to make your own customized build. I tried Guix on one of my notebooks and that was difficult because of the restrictive kernel
I've been an Arch user for 7 years, but I'm actually thinking of going with Manjaro on my next computer.
Arch has been extremely educational; but I no longer have the free-time I used to have, and having a distro that can configure the things I don't have time to configure, while still allowing me to configure whatever I want, seems like a great thing.
Watching at 1.25x speed makes it much better.
I almost always watch at 2x.
I watch it at 1.75x.
2.90x was ok for me.
With my german stoneage internet I take my time, watching this frame-by-frame in windows-picture viewer while downloading
Switching back to 1x after speeding up sounds awkward though.
I can't recommend Manjaro enough!
A rolling distro with well-tested updates (so near cutting-edge), multiple desktop environments, AUR (Arch User Repo), fantastic hardware support (mhwd) *including* Nvidia Optimus! Again with Optimus, this is also the easiest distro to install and configure: Literally NO manual installing at all...
This is also a good middle-ground between fixed and rolling release.
Dorian, I 100% agree.
In theory you are right. In reality all three of my attempts to use Manjaro failed either during installation or ended when the first update broke the OS.
Meanwhile I once used Antergos for half a year without any issues even though people apparently don't like the installer for some reason. Manjaro sounds great but it just doesn't like me.
2 bad the site got hacked few days back. (antergos i mean)
Thanks for this excellent review. Can you please do one on Debian sid? Thanks..
The same happened to me. I migrated to Manjaro a few months ago and 3 days later an update completely broke my system. I couldn't even get a tty to try to fix things up. All I would get was a black screen and know key combination that I could think of would get me out of there. Of course that I could just boot a Live version, search for a fix, chroot into my broken and install and apply it. However, if a simple update to a mostly vanilla system is able to break it to this point... how can I trust to run this distro as my daily driver? I don't need mission critical stability of a hardened Ubuntu LTS, Red Hat, CentOS or Debian Stable, but I just can't be left wondering if a few package updates are going to leave my system in the dust.
Manjaro - Arch without the commitment
- With the Manjaro team testing the Arch releases before letting Manjaro get it means there's a level of assurance on a rolling release that it will not brick your system.
- All praise the AUR!
- Has enough GUI tools to harness the power of Arch without needing to worry about it for those that need them
- Gorgeous professional interface
- Every element is easy to tweak into what you want
I just wanted to use Arch Linux with Plasma, but did not want to bother with the installation. That's where Manjaro came in.
I would recommend arch with the archfi script
Moved to Manjaro after using Ubuntu for 5 years, I'm impressed. Support and solutions to problems specially if they are not very common problems are not as easy to find as with Ubuntu.
installed manjaro kde recently on my main pc. this thing is amazing
Exactly. Best distro and most beautiful DE
I'm using manjaro cinnamon and I agree best distro. Only thing I've noticed is certain SteamPlay games I will get worse performance than people with lesser GPUs. And I can't figure out what else if anything I need to do. If it's just luck of the draw or what.
When I started using Manjaro 5 years ago, I fell in love with it even then.
look at this angry 12 year old kek
@John Smith no i never experienced something like that. maybe it was a bug if you are talking about a previous version. if it's the current version it's best to report that. maybe it doesn't have to do with kde. i honestly have no idea. one thing i know for sure is that kde is buggy and bloated but i have no better option. i could use xfce(or mate)+compiz but it's too much work for me. i also don't like xfce (at least not in my personal computer)
@Roget Kou too much work for me. when i have the time (maybe at christmas) i will give arch a try.
I am a newbie and find Manjaro is the best distro out there. Their KDE implementation close to perfect ...better than KDE Neon too.
When I discovered linux, I was: WOW! now, that I installed Manjaro for 1 month now, I am amazed!
Good job!
>Manjaro is Arch without the hassles
This guy knows what he's talking about. Congratulations, you got a new sub.
All Arch based distributions have the AUR, which is already a killer feature. It's the greatest user repository in the Linux world, and I haven't yet found a package which is not there.
Plus, Arch Linux doesn't force you to use a specific set of tools / applications. You can choose what to use.
What Manjaro does is apply this philosophy to a newbie-friendly Linux distro, which is also perfect for power users for the reasons above. And it has some additional tools built-in which make it easy to perform specific tasks, such as switching kernels, installing hardware, setting languages, etc.
And their "built in tools" tend to be the cause of 99% of the breaks. See the warning against using Octopi from the Arch Wiki: wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers
I wouldn't use KDE, which seems to be the source of most issues with Manjaro. Personally I'm using Cinnamon and never had any issues with Manjaro on two separate PC's with any tools provided by the Manjaro devs. If I did choose to use KDE I would install Pamac or just use Pacman in the command line to avoid issues. Octopi is garbage.
1. The arch philosophy is that "It is a do it yourself (DIY) distribution" and Manjaro is breaking that philosophy
2. Even if Arch User Repository is the biggest repository with all kinds of software, it is also the least secure one, you don't know what a PKGBUILD file provides if you are using those idiotic GUI's
3. Arch does force you to use specific set of tools, GNU for coreutils, mkinitcpio for initial ram filesystem, systemd for init, and stuff like that. If you want an actual "Use whatever tool you want, do what ever you want" distribution there is Gentoo and other source based distributions
@@tcreeperrblx8682 1. The Arch philosophy is actually "Keep it simple". The "Do it yourself" is a consequence of it.
2. Yes, but it's still better than not having anything.
3. You're right. But still, the number of tools it forces you to use is much lower than other distributions. Having an operating system which doesn't force you to use _any_ tool at all means developing it yourself, since the Linux kernel itself is a tool.
10:37 "potentially break your system"? I can't remember a single Ubuntu system upgrade that didn't break anything.
I use Manjaro simply because of pacman and the AUR.
ohhh God that profound comment never seen before !!!
I use systems based on Debian and Redhat for something very simple, I use .deb and .rpm pkg.
"Come on Dave, gimme a break"
@@javierchacon9155 haha sorry for not being original. Have a great day.
You are so Younger
@@javierchacon9155 younger than what?
@Nour Benaboud pacman is the package manager for Arch and Arch-based distros. It's what is used to update, remove, and install packages on Arch distros. AUR is the Arch User Repository. Think of it as a source for packages. There's the default Arch repositories that is maintained by the Arch team and packages added are usually done by the Arch team, but the AUR is the User repository where anyone can add a package to. Its very large and contains a lot of packages and software that are not in the default arch repository. eg. If you wanted to install Discord or Spotify, you could either compile them yourself, or use the AUR package(s) to install them for you which is a bit easier.
Speaking of Manjaro's "awesome" hardware support, I had so much trouble using Manjaro in five days I've tested it. My microphone was recorded with scratch sounds, the GRUB screen freezed each third system start, my WiFi card didn't work and many other small problems. Then I re-installed Mint and everything worked out of the box. I'm now using Mint 19 Cinnamon and I'm happy with it.
What's important for me is easy usability without doing (many) tweaks.
well shits not always compatible i installed manjaro on my 10 yr old laptop everything worked right away but then when i tried to set up a dual boot on my current pc which has newer shit inside it gave me many problems
I'm loving Manjaro Cinnamon, it felt easy to get used to coming from Linux Mint.
Try Gentoo openbox. I'm loving my system
@@roland3578 Nice meme
Manjaro was my first ever distro because one of my friends recommended it to me, I had an old laptop lying around so I booted it up and installed it. As a first time Linux user I was extremely confused. I spend a good 2 hours trying to figure out how to install something. I picked up some knowledge from using Manjaro a few days. So switched to Ubuntu, and I learned a whole lot about linux from there. I decided Ubuntu was somewhat slow for my old laptop, then I decided I would switch to Debian, I used Debian for around 2 months before downloading Arch and messing around with it. Arch is (for now) my laptops current distro. So, I thank Manjaro for getting me started with my Linux journey.
I really like those shades of turquoise and orange that Manjaro uses for its branding. That actually might be why I like the color theme of Pop! OS, too, as it's pretty similar.
But smooth driver support makes Manjaro really attractive for me.
as a linux noob i loved manjaro because steam got preinstalled without any linux-voodoo i have to do
I was a Linux noob... using Ubuntu you can install steam from the software center (store) or use the simple
> sudo install steam && upgrade { ps. use && to merge and run two commands at once }
password for admin xxxxxxx
x data will be installed continue? y/n Y
.
install complete
as a Linux user to another please learn some of the commands, please. it makes things much faster and less bloated OS's across the board.
@@Ishiku__aka_xchoibitschibihil play game on Linux. Two of you are disgrace
@@magick2006 why?
@@magick2006 hey I am getting Gud m8.
saw what conical was up to recently with AWS and I am scrambling in VMs to pick a new distro with VLC and steam support.
@@magick2006 kde is better in my opinion
Mint became 2nd.
Hell must have frozen over.
The most popular Linux (according to Distrowatch's ranking, which is not perfect) changes by waves of a few years
It used to be Mandrake (now discontinued), then Ubuntu, then Mint, and now Manjaro.
Give it some time and Manjaro will most likely be replaced by something else.
Why is that so? Well, it seems to follow some pattern:
1. one distribution is popular, but a new one does something slightly different (e.g. a different package manager, desktop environment)
2. the outsider gets some traction and becomes the more popular
3. the new popular becomes a bit "stale", or does something unpopular (e.g. Ubuntu: introducing some kind of "store", links to Amazon, the controversial Unity desktop that got discontinued, etc.) and people switch to another distribution that does not have those problems (e.g. Mint).
So back to 1, the cycle repeats.
Indeed and very well said + Pierre C.
The good thing is that it has a good base, Arch. I personally just gave up on distro hopping and went for Debian as my go-to. For me it was a good in-between Arch and Mint. It gave me a solid base that was customizable, but it didn't come with so much bloat for excessive hand-holding (for my experience, not everyone's). It sounds like Manjaro does something similar with its Arch base. Not bad.
that rating means nothing
@Pierre C. elementary will take place of manjaro because it is growing fast.you can see this in distrowatch.
Haha, I just got a windows 10 pro ad before watching this :)
I'm watching on a windows 10 machine :v but I have used Linux before. I've been thinking about making the full switch again and just having a Windows 10 VM using QEMU (KVM with PCI-E pass-through :p)
I have been using Debian & Debian Spins since 2010. One thing I love about it is apt, and the ability to have a continous update cycle. Rather than reinstalling the system every few years, or doing a giant upgrade every so often, I much prefer to stick to testing, and frequently run apt-get dist-upgrade to update the few packages that have changed since I last run the command.
Yes, don't you just love rolling distros?
I have been using aptosid and sidux for a couple of years - those were debian sid based (stable is too outdated for everyday use, imho). Then I went to pure debian, testing, just like you, for a while.
After breaking the system, I installed manjaro and never looked back
Recently I installed antix linux on vbox - it's debian stable, but you can go to testing or sid.
I have switched to sid, and running it for a week or so, but one thing I can say, apt is so slooooow compared to pacman...
Debian is my goto Distribution for Family members (like my mother, aunt etc).
They only use the browser for things like facebook, browser games etc and sometimes Libreoffice, thats it.
I love how rockstable Debian is, with users like stated above, it can never break.
I also love that i can rely on Debian that it does not break the system when i upgrade ... hell i can even setup that apt checks for updates once a week and updates (if there are new packages) automatically, without me beeing near my aunt or mother. Thats how much i trust debian.
ps: Manjaro did not break for me, but i always have this slight "pls dont break anything" feeling everytime i run updates. I simply do not have that feeling with debian.
The last thing you said really made me interested.
It's not for new users, it doesn't pretend to be another OS path into Linux; it's Linux for what Linux users want...
Gotta try it.
0:19 the name comes from the african mountain kilimanjaro
learn something new everyday
I read the comments and I would like add my opinion to the story. I was a OS jumper for years until I found Apricity OS with GNOME. It was a great start but it died. I tried to use Ubuntu,Fedora,Opensuse,CentsOS, Elementary OS, KDE Neon, Kubuntu , Xubunutu, Antergos , Architect , Arch , Puppy OS , Voyager , Deepin OS many times but it was a failure all the time. Now I am running manjaro KDE edition on my machines and I never want to go back to windows or the other distros again.
Just for the record: It has some problems but it just works most of the time and if you have any problem you can ask the community! (Not like other distros or like Windows...)
If you want to have a easy to install and stable operating system with great community use Manjaro!
If you want to use your system for business use Opensuse or Debian!
If you want to thinker with the system use Arch!
Ditch the others and be happy camper :D
P.S.:
I never mentioned the Ubuntu distro for a reason. They managed broke all the time if I used AMD or NVIDIA drivers for my notebook....
I've actually found Antergos to be a more stable arch based distro for me personally. I ran it (Antergos) for a long stretch of time with very few minor problems. On the other hand Manjaro breaks often after updates for me on various systems that I own.
How bout Fedora and Rawhide, lol.
Hey #ShaTer, I ran Fedora for the same length of time as Antergos on a different machine and actually liked it very much. Fedora was probably the longest running distro's I've run of all I tried. I just got bored with it after a while, but i may go back to it again when fedora 29 is released.
This video is great! I have switched to Manjaro as my distro of choice and you took the words out of my mouth!
This has opened the doors fully for me. Finally found the perfect distro.
I have been off the Manjaro train for quite a while now. Started using it when it first surfaced on several laptops. The updates broke the system way too many times and now Manjaro is history.
I was a Manjaro user for about 3 years, loved my time with it, the community is/was brilliant at one time but I haven't been there for a while now. Right now, my son is using Sparky MM for music recording with his guitar on a toshiba laptop, and I am using MX-Linux as a Live USB on a 500GB HDD through the same laptop since my own system went BANG. I have to say, the MX Linux guys have done an amazingly brilliant job of MX, solid as a rock, and from USB3 the speed difference isn't really that noticeable. Sparky is another very under rated little distro, I have yet to have any problems with it at all!
MX Linux is catching up fast!
1 Manjaro 3607>
2 MX Linux 3578>
3 Mint 2198>
4 elementary 1782>
5 Ubuntu 1428>
6 Debian 1251>
7 Fedora 987>
8 Solus 968>
9 openSUSE 828>
10 Zorin 725>
11 ReactOS 666>
Been using LXDE for over a yr now, installed in 10 minutes with a flash drive. It's my daily driver & is stable as day 1 got my printer set up over WiFi my 10 yr old Dell rocks!👍
The idea that Manjaro is "desktop agnostic" is not fully true. They are as close to agnostic between XFCE, Gnome, and KDE/Plasma as you can get. But the community versions can be lacking features compared to distros that favor those desktops. For example, a lot of the applet controls in the Raven panel in Budgie that work perfectly in Solus don't work in the current 19.0.2 release of Manjaro.
I switched to Manjaro xfce from Ubuntu because Ubuntu was too ram-hungry on my older system. The switch was a big relief to my ram modules and a big boost in speed in general. There is no reason to go elsewhere. Manjaro's popularity is by no means an accident, it is perfect for those of us who love to tinker and learn. I've been learning Linux with it for about five years on the same old hardware and I couldn't be happier. A couple of big updates broke it a few years back but that problem was eliminated by updating through terminal. It's been perfectly stable for over three years of everyday use. I appreciate your honest look at this distro, thank you.
I gave in to the hype and hopped to Manjaro. Holy shit, the bloatware it comes with and sure I can remove it one way or another but annoying part is that no talks about it.
I've been a debian user for quite a while, still run it at work, but the reason I switched to manjaro on my laptop, is because it just works out of the box. On debian and mint I had to manually change grub settings to remember the last OS I booted to (got a dual boot setup with windows), or to switch off touch input when I use the pen, but all these things are already taken care off on manjaro. It reduces the time I have to spend tweaking the OS and allows me to spend more of the time on the actual work I want to do.
I can't say I was particularly impressed with the package manager though, it has good and bad sides to it. I can install aur packages by just adding a checkmark in the settings when using the gui, but can't do an equivalent of "apt autoremove" without an alphabet soup of unintelligible options that I have no chance of ever remembering when I don't have internet access. They could definitely improve usability on that front.
Just installed this. No sound from my Creative Soundblaster Z, also it seemed to have frozen during installing updates. Oh, well, back to mint, will try this in virtualbox or on my esx-host.
so? any news?
I love Manjaro! I have been a Windows user since 3.11. I still like Windows for guaranteed games support, but I was sick of paying $100+ for an operating system every time I upgraded my CPU and motherboard.
I have played around with other Linux distros (Ubuntu many times, Mint, and Debian). There was just something about them that never kept my attention, until I came upon Manjaro. From the first time I installed it on a 2010 Macbook until today, I have enjoyed the experience. So much so that I dumped Windows all together after I found out that Valve incorporated Steam Play into Steam, and broadened the range of Windows games that will work on Linux. Granted not all of my games work, but I don't care.
Getting used to another operating system definitely has its challenges but Manjaro had made that adjustment a lot easier. I remember spending many hours trying to figure out the Debian based distros and finding them very frustrating. Even though I have come across some growing pains with Manjaro I still love it.
Recommend 100%!
System specs:
CPU: Intel i7 6700 (Had a 6700K but it died and the non-K was on sale at Micro Center.)
CPU Cooler: Cryorig H7 with Corsair ML120 Pro fan replacing the Cryorig fan.
Motherboard: ASUS Z170-AR
RAM: 16GB Kingston HyperX DDR4 @ 2400MHz
GPU: MSI GTX 1080 Armor 8G OC
SSD: 1TB Samsung 850 EVO
Case: Fractal Design Define S
Case Fans: 2 Front Corsair ML140 Pro, and 1 more ML 140 Pro in the rear.
PSU: EVGA 750W Supernova G2
Im on it Friday didn't realize how far Linux's distros have evolved 4 year old laptop an new SSD
Same for me. about 5 years ago, I spent about 2 weeks each on 3 different distros (including Manjaro). They were all buggy as hell and lots of other weird issues. The current distros, especially Manjaro, solved over 90% of those issues.
I liked Mint when they had KDE, but when I had to find a new KDE distro and found Manjaro, I was actually glad.
I like Chakra in theory, but not in practice. One thing that I think helps is "pacman -Syu" for updates. I don't know for sure if that's why my system has been rock-solid for 2ish years now, but "pacman -Syu" for every update I have done, and absolute rock-solid it has been.
Vídeo theme starts at 3:40
Bless your fat chicken wing sir
Fairly new to linux. tried Pure OS on a reccomendation and hated it. Tried mint, but had awful issues with graphics drivers. Downloaded Manjaro a few days ago, Had a few glitches and issues but the support was so good, i even managed to get to grips with basic command line. So, so far am loving it.
Mint is an excellent distro, but their main version has always been buggy for me. I just installed Linux Mint Debian Edition and already it's been a much better overall experience. I had some trouble installing, but that was due to a corrupted iso file, once I got that fixed it went off without a hitch! Granted, my hardware is old, so YMMV with newer hardware, but everything seems to be working, and the Debian Edition even uses less RAM than its Ubuntu based brother.
I might give Manjaro a chance if I ever get tired of LMDE, but for my current setup I'm looking for something stable. Maybe I'll get more experimental on my laptop though, I'm currently running Fedora there, but looking for a change, and I want to go to a rolling release, I'm tired of the update cycle, I'd rather just get new features added constantly once they are stable. A rolling release is very appealing. I've been eyeing Fedora Rawhide, OpenSUSE Tumbleweed, and other rolling releases as my next move, butI might consider Manjaro too.
I have tried to use Manjaro three times as my daily driver, on 2 separate PCs. Both times everything would be fine for a couple of weeks and than I would get an update that would break something and the OS refused to startup. I am not an advanced user, but I know how to Google my way out of problems. But... Not once have I manages to fix the problem with a broken Manjaro update. At that point I just gave up on it. Last time I tried was probably 8 months ago. Too bad because Manjaro felt really fast and responsive, definitely the fastest linux distro I have tried. In the end I went back to Ubuntu because there was never an update that ruined it to the point where it refused to boot to desktop.
easy, don't update. I have it on my old laptop to replace win10 and If it's working great, let it be : )
Joe Johnson security is overrated
Always happens the same shit with Manjaro, 15 days and die
thats what manjaro is, a distro that only lives 15 days
There are nerds who walk among you, ask them whatever you need and they will come up with the answers...
I became so desperate to get away from Windows that I began looking at any alternative. I've never found any OS that interested me until Linux Mint. I admit I don't know much about the command line because I've been spoiled by the ease of use that Windows provided but I've been learning as I go and I'm very impressed with Linux Mint so far. It's only been a week or so since I installed it and if it should all go south in the next little while I will stick with it.
Been using Manjaro as a primary desktop environement for dev (python & JS). So far I've had fewer issues and it took me less time to set it up than I needed with Ubuntu 18.04 LTS :o
I have used Linux Mint, KDE Neon,, Zorin and Kubuntu all are good, but they all had their issues with stability. Kubuntu for example would "forget" some of my key bindings for no reason. I've been using Manjaro (KDE) for 3 months as my daily driver and have had zero issues. Just love it. I'm done distro hopping.
Me: Using Windows 10 without problems, but still watches Linux videos...
Windows 10 without problems? Man you must have some sort of custom Win 10 then since it's filled to the brim with bloat.
Delete it immediately and install Slackware... :D
I currently have Windows 10 on one computer and Linux Mint on another. At work, I'm stuck with Windows 10. I support an application running on windows, and in the past couple months things started breaking without any indication of what changed. I was tearing my hair out while trying to find out what was wrong. I thought there was something I did wrong. Turns out, Microsoft pushed an update that broke things. Once we got MS's fix, all is well. Thank you Microsoft, I had a great time. At least it didn't affect my usage of Windows at home. I'm giving serious thought to leaving MS behind. The only reason I haven't switched to Linux is because I play World of Warcraft, and I don't believe there is a Linux version. I am, however, becoming bored with it. I should give Manjaro a look.
Brian Schuetz if windows had snapshots like zfs and Btrfs u could of rolled back with a command just to test if it was a patch that screwed u in minutes. Then rolled it forward again to test again. I am to looking into Linux. Wow will work but I have to jump some hoops. I use windows OS X z/os z/vse z/vm Unix at my job. Using Linux on old hardware to bring it back to life and learning network penetration and zfs. Am I switching ...wouldn’t call it switching since I am on so many platforms..just adding other tools in my tool box
Brian Schuetz am...I’m sure you can play every game on Linux without any problem. Hell I play ESO on Zorin.
I had only ever used Windows until recently. The most confusing things with trying Linux distro's are garbage on the screen, error messages as the messages flash by and just freezing. The worst thing of searching for help is the assumption that you know where things are in a particular distro.
I have also put so much crap into a distro, trying to get something working, that it was easier for me to reinstall and start again. This also helped to see if I could replicate getting something working again. I couldn't. I have only managed to get Pop OS and Manjaro to install successfully so far. I like PoP OS. I find the Manjaro gui too Windows like. I am trying to get away from Windows.
My intention is to try some programming with some version of Linux. One youtube video that looked helpful said Manjaro. I had tried it before and gotten the garbage on screen and gave it away. Pop OS just did everything right when trying the distro and installing it.
The youtuber I was watching for what to install for a development powerhouse was doing the selecting too fast and it was hard to follow. I get put off easily and that put me off. I shutdown and went food shopping.
I don't think I really needed everything that the youtuber was talking about. The problem now is hiw to get back to a more or else basic installation. Reinstall or try getting something going with Pop OS. The thing I didn't know when I started with Linux few weeks back are there are forums on a lot of things that can help. I don't join them I just read what is there. I am hoping to learn more of how the computer interacts with the operating system too.
My distro hopping finally stopped after finding Manjaro. Simply the best.
ignorant and arrogant for claiming it is the best
I downloaded and installed manjaro after being with ubuntu for a few years and could see an immediate difference in performance. I have 18 xcfe on an older laptop with below average specs
Manjaro (/mənˈdʒɑːroʊ/) is good, but pure Arch, which it is based on, works better for me. However Manjaro is a great choice for an average user to get into Arch universe :) Great video!
Being a former noob at Linux, I'm going to give the most trite tip of all time to get better: Read the archwiki. You've heard it a million times but this really is it. Slow down and read it properly instead of skimming over the details and then complaining it's too complicated (I did this). It has virtually everything you need (recommended applications, installation and configuration, troubleshooting for common problems, etc). Good luck on your journey!
Manjaro is a good distro. I use Mint myself though, and I don't see myself switching any time soon
Same.
Mint used to be good, but now it's crap. Desktop is to heavy (all of them), driver support for older hardware is virtually non-existent, can't switch Kernel's on-the-fly, doesn't come with Mesa support out of the box etc, etc, etc...
Grumpy Cat I don’t have those problems since I’m not using old hardware. It works fine for me, but I’m sorry it doesn’t work for you
Exactly, because you're using newer hardware. Manjaro excels in driver support between the two and has a cleaner, more organized desktop experience.
But regardless of what distro I use, none of them can offer a decent broadcom driver.
Been on Manjaro Plasma about a year. I like the rolling release. At first I was having mouse freezing issues. With eash new kernel, that issue has improved. Now almost never freezes. I like the ease of customization. Very stable.
One of the reasons I have left Windows 10 (pro) is that it's not really a professional operating system in the way Windows 7 could be setup as. Having updates and abrupt restarts is just really the surface issues. But to be constantly updating, growing in size is a bigger, not talked about issue. One of the reasons I love Mint is simply because of this. It takes a little work, but you can update only critical parts of your os when you want. Like for me a friday evening, if Mint has 10 updates I could let it do it's thing without missing a beat. Now with a rolling release such as this options are limited and like Windows 10, it's forced upon you. Miss a couple of updates and you might end up with a broken system. That's a stumbling block for me. At least it seems what packages are updated seem to be more consistent. Windows 10 will update and just add bloat and god knows what else in the process. I've had multiple clients suffer from this. Another reason I tend to stay with Mint is it just works. Think of it this way. Yes, it's older more stable software, it's not bleeding edge at all. In fact Mint has been around since 2006, I don't think much has changed as far as look and feel and as a plus workflow. Workflow and stability on a production computer are absolutely critical to getting anything done. Thus why I shy away from Manjaro. But, I do think it's an awesome OS, and the community needs people who are willing to play with the bleeding edge of life, it's how things become stable.
Chiriac Puiu Agreed but that's just more mucking around and that was my point. Not that even Windows 7 was ready to go 'out of box' but Windows 10 is a whole other level. I am all about setting things up and stuff, I don't mind playing with the nuts and bolts so to speak. But with Windows 10 you've got hours of work that must be done. I can optimize Windows 7 in under an hour. Especially on anything modern and pretend your a new be but you've got extensive work that you've got to do. But before that you've gotta setup Windows 10... to be useful. Talk about a curve. For all the gripes one could say about Linux, Mint does this job pretty well. But so did Windows 7. no candy crush thank you!
@Chiriac Puiu So can you set it to update when it is off? Windows Updates are a nightmare.
I'm not surprised that Kali is so low on the list it's an amazing distro it's just so niche and specific to professionals or professional criminals.
I watched the whole video, the main problem I have is that you didn't use Manjaro extensively, or at least trough some updates. The result is that your video tells one story, while the comments tell another. And I've read ALL the comments, not just few on the top. TBH I don't feel you have actually answered the question that is the video title.
But hey, this is 2018 and people mostly make stuff for views....
I agree with you, same for me (watched video and read all comments). Nonetheless it is an interesting video as a pure introduction to three main points that are valid. Even if people disagree on the updates breaking the system. But for most normal people (not geeks) stability is a must have. I am a geek. I had bad luck finding bugs (critical or too annoying). So I stopped upgrading with Fedora 24. Cannot have a dozen windows and see the system crash every few days. Imagine having to remember everything that was open. And hope nothing has been broken. For years on server I get the source, compile it, and install it. So I always have the stable versions picked by me. I judge was is stable. On the desktop, pray and old stable version detects and runs all the new hardware. My two cents.
@@JordiFerran wait, so are you on Manjaro too or not..?
@@movement2contact Me not using Manjaro. Looking into it for reviews and user comments. Just this video and thread alone, provides enough insight to guess: Manjaro is not stable enough for most users (not technical, not geeks).
@@JordiFerran I'm a Linux nub and I had Manjaro last year on my work laptop, and I really liked it. But I had to switch back to Win10 soon, because of software we needed to use. Now I've gotten really fed up with Microsoft's incompetece and disregard to privacy, so I'm moving either Manjaro or FreeBSD soon.
I like this. Maybe I'll play with it in a VM. Not ready to jump from Ubuntu yet. That one has been a rock for me.
I had always distro hopped... until I tried Manjaro.
same
Speaking as a home user and only for myself (we take a Win laptop and, maybe plus on road trips) I love Manjaro. i3 and BSPWM are exceptional window managers and Cinnamon is relatively light on resources and very polished. Been using this distro over four years now. Most of the problems I have had, were things I could have avoided if I had read the warnings and/or instructions first. In almost all SNAFU's either a search engine or the forum or wiki allowed me to fix the self inflicted breakages. And the community is the best ever!
The first thing I ran into when trying out Manjaro Budgie was the package manager(s I guess.)
I love that you only need to run one command to update and upgrade in sequence, I hate that this is another Linux command line app that expects you to remember what arbitrary letter and capitalization that the person who programmed it thought would be perfect to do what at that particular time.
Yes it saves time later on but looking at -Skfl kks qqf after every program name is not exactly intuitive for someone that never touched Arch in their life.
I call these MANsplaining apps. =3
I'm using manjaro for over 1 year . Why I preffered and stay on that distro ; it is robust, stable , configurable , it looks professional, it has a strong community, you can find anything about manjaro in the internet, it is harmonic , it has good looking interface, and it makes you feel that you are using a real computer(I dont know this is why:) ). It is fun to run in manjaro.
apt-get is clumsy and will never shut up wining about dependencies: kali, ubuntu, elementary (especially), you name it. and 'ppa business' is simply hugging exhausting.
I actually like APT. It allows me to download and install a program with one simple command.
However, I heard that in Manjaro Linux, this is made even simpler, so I am pretty excited to find that out. I am going to install Manjaro Linux in a virtual machine to find out whether this is a distribution for me. :-D
Mark Wiering So... Have you switched to Manjaro yet? If yes, what flavor (like KDE, Xfce, GNOME, CINNAMON, etc)? If not, then what distro are you currently using?
I have just started to explore manjaro , inspired by you from today - From Bangladesh
After having used Ubuntu-based distros for years, I moved to Manjaro and I loved it! Still use it on my laptops, and my main PC runs Arch (Manjaro taught me the way Arch worked).
Now my laptopts run Fedora and main PC has been running Arch for 6 years.
I'm definitely taking a look at this distro. Thanks a bunch for your fine evaluation!
I installed manjaro once, but when I installed vmware it immediately had gcc incompatibility. I installed what gcc version it asked for but it just woudn't work . I have seen this before with debian stretch and said screw this I am going back to mint. Manjaro isn't for everyone, especially for people like me who just want a stable system.
The hardware detection in Manjaro is what made me move to this distribution. I’ve got a couple of laptops that are a hassle to install others distros, but work great with Manjaro.
THANK YOU FOR FINALLY LOOKING AT MANJARO
After being a kubuntu user for over ten years, I distro hopped and can't believe how great Manjaro is.
@Donald Mickunas I have experienced some system issues after an update (not an upgrade) while using Kubuntu. Wasn't a showstopper. However, while I was a Sys admin once upon a time, I don't have the time or patience to deal with stuff that shouldn't happen after all these years.
I use a computer as a ludite these days. I just want it to work. I don't want to mess with config files. It's nice having a system where I don't have to. I can if I want. But really, I don't want to.
Manjaro hasn't failed me at all. Updates and upgrades haven't caused a single issue for me. Manjaro with KDE runs miles faster than Kubuntu. Boots quicker, loads plasma faster, dolphin opens quicker. It's just a better system in general. And at first, having been so use to PPA's I was confused and unsure of AUR and my experience with Pacman in the past was horrible when I once administered a SuSE installation for someone. I was in dependency hell.
But it works. And it works better.
I made a USB boot drive with a Manjaro ISO, wiped my / partition. Keeping my /home partition, installed Manjaro. Half an hour later I was completely set up like nothing happened.
See ya (K)Ubuntu. You have been good, but you're antiquated. You're old. You've become complacent and stale.
Thanks!
That was a good one! Makes me wanna try it out - though I'm stuck to my beloved Linux Mint MATE
Mint is great I want to try Mate. If I'm not mistaken my mint had Xfce. I know this video is about Magyro linux. I.do plan on trying Msgyro..
Mint Mate was my first distro! 😀
I used Mint for a month, then realised that a lot of the packages in its manager were outdated. Krita 2.x, for example, was the last update they had, while Krita 4.0 had already been out. I formatted the disk and installed manjaro. I am a very happy Arch noob now :)
I ran Manjaro for a while. It was my stepping stone to straight Arch. Which I dual boot, from separate drives, not just partitions, as I don't care for WINE or such to run games.
I see a lot of comments here of Manjaro breaking after updates; however, I did not have this issue myself, from the number of times I see this, I wonder if it is not hardware related. Since I don't try to modify to run games, and I keep other OS's completely separated, I may not have run into some of the issues others have had with this great distro.
Sadly, MidFingr passed away a couple of years ago. Fortunately, his family knew how much people loved him and left his Manjaro videos up. They are some of the best on the web. So, if you want to give Manjaro a try, start with his videos. I used a lot from him when I switched to Arch.
try ppsspp app
for gaming god of
war its working good
I've been running Manjaro on my machine for about five years now. I won't say I have not had any problems, yes, sometimes an update will "break" something, but so far, it's never been anything that stopped the machine from working. Usually it's an issue with graphics, particularly Compiz-Reloaded issues, which is kind fo to be expected. Once in a while, Firefox will act weird, not showing som pictures or being unable to display text on a few pages, but again, nothing that is a deal breaker, and nothing I couldn't fix with some minor google searches (or help on the forums)
I love the cutting edge nature, the package management system, the speed, and how easily it can be customized. And the rolling release model is one of my favorite things.
It would have been far more rational if you tried Manjaro first and then made this video. I’m sure your conviction about the stability of Manjaro will change if you use it for a long run - say, six month or so. Reason is breakage of something or the other after an update. Another thing is if you use it with any other Linux distro in a dual-boot scenario, then you have to be prepared for the ominous “kernel panick” every now and then. Now, the frequency of these things has greatly reduced nowadays, but they are there nonetheless.
Taking instability into account, it is really far-fetched to call rolling release models “the future”. Because, nobody, even the nerdiest of Linux users, don’t want a broken system with latest and greatest packages. Do they?
I used Manjaro extensively over the last year. Despite some system crashes, I really enjoyed it! Especially after 17.0.2, it became a delight to use! But as with any other rolling releases, the “update fatigue” got me down. Really, how much updates can you need for a running system? Do you really need the latest packages to run an OS? What is the guarantee that the latest kernel that came after the latest update will drive your machine better than the previous one? And add to all that the occasional stoppage of updates altogether because you have search and remove some packages in order to run them. Whew.....
Eventually, the updates bothered me so much that I thought they were coming in the way of using the system. So I jumped ship to KDE Neon on that system. My other main system runs OpenSUSE leap.
As for the distrowatch rankings, I tend to believe that the dropping of KDE by the Linux Mint team had a huge impact in its user-base. And Manjaro filled that void.
@Joe Johnson You seem really frustrated. I can understand. Although I did not have any problems regarding firewall and wifi, I did encounter some strange stuff when installing printers and scanners. Sometimes it detects them but could not perform any operation. Sometimes they vanish altogether from your configuration and you had to reconfigure them. So I decided to use then from my other machine which runs OpenSUSE or Linux Mint.
The "wiseguy replies" are real on all the forums related to Arch and derivatives. You are quite right to point that out. The forum members assume that you know a great deal of software and OS and they reply accordingly. That is why I never recommend Arch and derivatives to those people who do not want to spend a great deal of their time tinkering with the system rather than using it.
So, what are you using now?
@Joe Johnson Goodness me, you're still seething in anger! If you open the Arch wiki and read the "Why would I not use Arch" section in FAQ, you'll find the first point mentioned as do-it-yourself. The entire philosophy of Arch Linux is predicated on this DIY. People who enjoy this, enjoy Arch; moreover, they also expect others to do so. And that is the root of the problem. There are some problems, like setting up wifi properly(which you mentioned), simply cannot be solved easily. You have to seek some advice and do it mostly via the command line. If you get it from the internet, fine. But if you do not find it, you have to go to the forum where many folks think themselves as gurus or omniscient. Their replies are cryptic, so you don't understand and ask more questions. Then starts ominous "you don't even know this??" stuff and all hell breaks down. Oh this is so common! You're right to leave such people and toxic environment.
And you have landed on THE most perfect distro now, without a doubt! MX is the new superstar in the Linux world! I used to hate xfce, but since I discovered MX, I adore it! In both of my main machines, my alternate distro is MX. Why do I love this? Because you install it and forget it - it never comes in the way of using the machine and getting work done! You've made an excellent choice!
Three guesses as to why Mr Johnson was 'treated badly', based on how vile his comments are in every damn thread under this video. ;)
@@GameFreak7744 Well, when you get trolled and bullied because you've asked some questions, there isn't much you can do other than being vile. Arch forums are notorious for this. Just ask around...
Well, I've been using Manjaro for more than 6 months now on dual boot with Windows (just for the games, y'know, but that might change with Proton), and I have yet to have a single kernel panic (can't say the same about Windows and BSODs), and the only kind of "breakage" that i have experienced is when I updated a python package globally through pip instead of pacman, and then pacman was bitching about conflicts, but it was solved by simply uninstalling the package and installing it with pacman.
I do agree though, that the really frequent updates can sometimes be cumbersome for some users, but that's how Manjaro and other Arch-based distros are by design (rolling release), so people who want to be on the bleeding edge of software, can choose to use them at the cost of some stability. But hey, it's not Windows, so you can actually choose when to update, and the update process is actually really fast and smooth.
Been using Manjaro before its popularity, mainly because of the hardware support, the simplicity and the lightness of the live image. Perfect for rescue, backup and fast boot.
Manjaro Linux is Arch Linux for the newbies+it's own tools+it is support probably all of the desktop environment and wm-s. This is the key for his popularity. My experience, that Linux is about customize everything, which is amazing thing. But the thing is one Linux distribution and it's community (I absolutely love Linux community) support all hardware, all desktop environment, all packages, all softwares, and this things to work together without bugs, it's not possible...
You gonna rant and rave and lie and throw your toys out the pram in _every_ comment thread Mr Johnson? Copypasting your dishonest diatribe left and right doesn't make you look reliable you know buddy.
@Joe Johnson Seems to me that the only toxic comments are made by you.
@Joe Johnson I did try it, in fact it is my daily driver on desktop and laptop. I used it on a daily basis for almost a year now and I really enjoy it. It's not perfect by any means, but it's good.
If you don't like it just switch to another distro: nobody is asking you to stick with it and by acting like this you only make a fool of yourself
Yes you are lying. Saying that nobody will get support for Manjaro, for example, is frankly laughable.
@@GameFreak7744 This user is likely a troll, it's on all videos saying Manjaro sucks. It's a damn troll, don't feed him, just ignore. 'Cause of these users the Linux community is considered toxic.
Having used many distros over the years Manjaro LXDE is the one I've settled on as opposed to many Debian/Ubuntu derivatives which always seem to have a problem with my WiFi hardware (Broadcom). I use the LXDE Community Edition as my laptop is old , it's a Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2GHz, 2 GB RAM and i have to say it runs like a dream. Having access to very recent versions of software via the official repository or being able to use the AUR and having pamac-manger (Package manger GUI) build it for you is very convenient, particularly if your like me and haven't the slightest clue about compiling software. I differently recommend this distro.
isn't manjaro flexible? I heard you can install things pretty darn easily on there
It is very easy to compile source for whatever your hardware is, yeah
I go to Manjaro because Ubuntu and Mint failed to detect my wifi card. And I'm glad that they did. Love Manjaro.
I use Manjaro because it ROCKS!
And I'm steering CLEAR of it because of comments like yours. Different strokes, eh?
I ditched Debian for Manjaro because of the rolling release. I really loved Debian but hated having to risk breaking the linux installation completely with dist-upgrade every once in a while. Manjaro really reminds me of Debian a lot without that problem. I've had the same computer for 11 years now so I really value longevity of the operating system.
Actually it ROLLS :-)
@@TheSimonScowl With comments like yours you better stick to shitdows or shitOS
@@danr8472 The point is no professional or power user CAN live without closed source software and operating systems (corporations are too powerful). That YOU still think you can only means you're a naive n00b.... like me back in 1994, messing with Slackware Linux.
I usually use linux without GUI on servers but Manjaro looks promising i'll try it as a desktop.
I dont know why, Arch is actually really easy to install if you can follow instructions. Granted most people who want a put in USB, install it does everything for you then it ok. If you want easy to use from a Windows person, then LinuxMint. If they are coming from OSX, then Elementary OS. Easiest to install and works on just about everything I could throw at it PopOS!.
I tried Manjaro and didnt like it, so I learned to install Arch and was so impressed. Got it installed and its fast, even faster than Manjaro once you get it installed.
Arch is great but not always easy to install. If your hardware is a little different have to jump through a few xtra hoops. Personally wifi setup is a pain on my laptop had to do it twice in total and nothing on the manual works correctly so took a lot more gooogling to get it setup never had issues with xorg setup tho :). Though its by far the best completely stopped thinking about distros after first started using arch. Like whats the point i can already do that easily here hehe.
I absolutely love manjaro, i tried it after i was fed up with the out of date packages and constant refreshing of PPAs that i had with Mint or Ubuntu.
After i destroyed my ubuntu partition and went with Manjaro and saw it's benefits over it's cons, i never went back to ubuntu.
I stopped distro hopping after finding manjaro and i could never be any happier
for me Linux MINT 19 "cinnamon" is the best of the best of all Linux
There is no "best" distro
@@ParadoxClip True
Liam N.
But still....
I use Win 10 on my main desktop. Manjaro (KDE Plasma) is the first Linux distro that felt just right to me. It looked beautiful, rock solid, everything worked, everything made sense (coming form Win). I just found it so intuitive and easy to set up I couldn't believe I was using Linux :)
I have spare ancient lappy (2GHz Celeron, 2GB RAM) to have fun with installations and test out stuff. Mint 19.3 Xfce 32 bit was very laggy on it. Manjaro 18.1.5 KDE Plasma 64 bit was smooth sailing, just a joy and breeze to use.
Also I use Arch now btw ;)
Try missing an update and then finding your distro is broken beyond repair. You run a very fine line with Manjaro.
I don't get it ... i'm running Manjaro now over six months and never 'broke my system' by updating.
I did. I had to drop back a kernal due to a wierd bug, when I came back todate. There are too many conflicting dependencies, update simply refures to work.
After 5 years using Ubuntu I have decided to move to Manjaro 2 weeks ago. I'm not looking back. Using the latest releases of what I need did it for me.
I tried installing Manjaro on two machines and all I got was "No operating system found" upon boot up. MX Linux on the other hand works on both.
@Joe Johnson Oh indeed it is super. Fast and customisable. Deserves more love.
I tried Manjaro out a few months ago to see what it was like and I ran into that. It doesn't inspire confidence in the distro. What happened, at least in my case, is that the installer would do its thing but no drive was set to be bootable. I did the install two or three times as I was trying several distros a few different times and I didn't notice the option out front during installation. I ended up going back into the OS on the USB stick and manually set the proper drive and partition to be bootable and that fixed the issue giving me a chance to try it out. I thought it was okay in the short time I used it, but there were things I didn't like so I didn't stick with it.
MX Linux is based on Debian, obviously is estable, we try install MX Linux and make a lab for using in the office. Thanks
@Joe Johnson My girlfriend serves me like that, it's awesome.
sure you were using the right version? i68 or x86_64 for instance also might be an issue with secure boot which is really easy to resolve. I really doubt theres anything wrong with manjaro in your case.
Tried manjaro this week. First impression was really great BUT .. system crashed badly several times. Once it even damaged grub. So I installed Fedora and I am happy. For me it is much better experience with fedora.
How long did Firefox take to be opened the first time?
He's running it off of a bootable CD or USB drive - it's not installed.
About 10s
As for me:
- packaging system: very important
- installer guy: nice to have
- multiple desktop: great, they even have manjaro i3 (the best distro ever)
- hardware detection: well no too hard to deal with my hardware, but I have guess it's great
- rolling release: fundamental and perfect (sometimes I break something, and it's solved in 2-3 days)
- kernel switching: never tried but intriguing
- last but not least: THEIR FORUM!
I really would want to be a Manjaro user but I just can’t leave Solus no matter how hard I try. The package manager on Solus is hands down the best and the boot speed and performance is amazing. It has it’s issues and problems but so have Manjaro. Manjaro is bloated, has some weird ad shit called office online to name a few. Have thought about using Ubuntu but apt is useless and it boots slow.
In the Ubuntu world Pop OS and KDE Neon seem to deliver just what I want but they would be so much better if they were based on like opensuse tumbleweed or fedora in my opinion. I know a bit controversial, but I will stay with Solus until they die...
Jacalz What else makes Solus great for you? I may consider it for my main OS if it proves to suit my needs better than Mint
I like almost everything when it comes to Solus. It is beautiful, not booted with programs and it just works. A huge recommendation!
"they would be so much better if they were based on like opensuse tumbleweed"
In one sentence you call an arch-based distro bloated, then you find openSuse Tumbleweed good? Tumbleweed is the most bloated distro I've ever used. It literally took 3 times as long just to boot than MX Linux on my laptop.
@@SaHaRaSquad he was referring to the fact that Ubuntu is pretty shit, (I can easily agree) and that the Debian package manager is slow (?) He would have preferred they were RPM rather than DEB based. Weird to say, for sure, but Debian itself has a pretty fantastic Linux distro.
Solus is awesome, I'd use it as my main OS but my job requires a Debian based system currently (some proprietary software that we use is only available in .deb formats). Honestly, that's been my largest pain point w/ Solus: their package system. They refuse to use .deb or anything, and I get that they have their reasons, it's just frustrating when you submit a ticket to ask for the addition of software in Solus Repos like CrossOver by CodeWeavers and they close the ticket saying contact the vendor and ask them to port it over (which I highly doubt any company is going to take the time to port over software that is literally only usable by ONE distro which comprises literally .00001 of overall Linux users). But I digress. Whatever makes you happy, I'm happy w/ Kubuntu ATM.
Manjaro has a huge community, it's polished, easy to use and the most important, it works.
I installed Manjaro on my Mac
XD
That would be fun to surprise folks with
same lol i basically hackintoshed my mac using a kvm and manjaro
I have 2 computers that I use in different locations, one is Windows 10 and the other is Ubuntu. On the Ubuntu rig I have some problems when editing Godot Engine game files, and the community says this is only an issue with Ubuntu. So, this and the geek that I am, will try Manjaro - decision helped by your video, thanks :)
You pointed to one of the reasons that make me always feel weird when using linux, the "lets try to imitate MacOSX" design principles all over the place.
Why try to be a MacOSX wannabe, when you can be so much more?
I was using Manjaro solidly for about a year, then something happened in Arch that made it impossible for me to control my network adapter, resulting in it being in a permanent down state even when I tried using the terminal to bring it up. I don't understand it and it forced me to switch to a different distro, which absolutely sucks because aside that one network adapter issue I absolutely adore Manjaro and I hope to go back to it someday.
Dude thank you for calling out PPAs for what they are: outdated at this point.
You're rude for making that comment, disregarding the work of ubuntu developers and contributors
I just absolutely love Arch's repositories and Wiki, it's just so advanced and well developed, I can find answers for most issues. Manjaro takes all the installing process out of the way, so I can quickly get to work.