Watching Graf preparing each serve was like watching a little piano piece played to perfection: crisp, elegant, purposeful and identical to the one before it.
@danielrojas4238 Do you have amnesia? First of all Monica is nearly 5 years younger than Steffi...Steffi beating Monica when she was only 15 years old. Monica left the tour for over 2 years because of the stabbing. Don't you know that? Before the stabbing Monica dethroned Steffi as World Number 1...and was 1000 points ahead of Graf in the rankings. From May 1990 til Jan 1993, Monica won 8 Slams as a teen...and Steffi lost 9 Slams during that time. I like Steffi ..she is one of the Greats but Monica was on a roll...Monica beat Steffi in 3 Major finals also.
@@joeyconvery2055 6-4 before the stabbing and NOT forget that by the time Monica was beating Graf, Graf was suffering injuries and all the problems with her father, be OBJETIVE not a delusional.
Their footwork is beautiful. CE's technique is so good -- she rarely ever looks as if she can't execute a return perfectly and in balance. And Steffi -- well, a great athlete who is strong and fast.
love it.. every grand slam tournaments youtube channels are now uploading classics matches... 🥰 note: in early years of her career, Graf always held her second ball during her play with her left hand, proof that she's the real one handed player 😁
The Evert comeback starts at 34 minutes. The same attributes that got her from 1-6, 1-5 to a TB, got her out of countless scrapes in earlier rounds of tournaments. One of the secrets to her consistency was a never say die attitude. She may lose, she may lose badly, but she never stops looking for that crack in the door, that little tactical edge that can win her some crucial points. Here Chris is just trying to lengthen the points, and find some way to suck Graf into errors while she prods and pokes for some opennings for winners. She finds them - just not enough.
Great analysis! Chris is so mentally tough, and hits with such precision. At 6-5, 30 all, second serve …..she made a couple of very tired unforced errors. Otherwise , we got a 3rd set.
@@thomasmagnum3588 That's exactly what happened in Boca Raton in Spring of 1989! Evert did not win, but she took Graf to a third set for the first time in their rivalry
@@thomasmagnum3588 She didn't have a lethal shot from the baseline. That was the difference between players from her generation vs the newer players like Graf.
You forgot primal screams of "COME ON" starting with the first point of the match. These two were always all business on the court. There are only a handful of players who behave this way any longer.
@@jm7804 don't forget every point they win, they wave their arms up at the stand to stir up the crowd. Sinner with his fist pumping on every single point and Alcaraz moaning and grunting, vamos and begging for the crowd to join in.
You old fogies love to make this comment. There were vocal players both men's and women's back then too. Get over it. Tone policing pro athletes is cringy af.
I love the screams and the letting out of emotions. That Steffi Graf era was weak. Only one or two talented players. The most exciting era emerged after the Williams sisters joined. I am a big fan of Steffi and her matches kept me awake whilst l lived in Germany 🇩🇪
Steffi dominated 1988-90. You can see she is ahead of this era of play with her strong serve and forehand power. And yet, quite far from the player she eventually became. Talks about how much tennis evolved overall
From 1988 A.O & 1996 US open Graf won 20 of the 33 slams she participated & reached 6 other final. That's insane dominance 😱😱. If that's not the true dominance i don't know what will be.
Agree with you, except we have to acknowledge what effect Monica Seles being stabbed had on that dominance. Had Monica stayed on tour, who knows how many more she would have taken instead of Steffi.
@@lflagr yeah but Monica was also benefitted from Steffi's father's nasty scandal, blackmail scandal & bad publicity from German media about Steffi. Again Steffi also suffered knee injury in 1997 that allows Martina Hingis to no 1 without even challenging Steffi other wise it's Steffi who easily would have broken long standing record of Margaret Court 24 slams.
@@lflagr But she didn‘t stay on the tour for 2 years, right? And the Graf family was blackmailed, right? And Henin ended her career prematurely due to burnout, right? So everybody can cherry-pick their own favorite “what-if-scenario“, right?
This is close to Chris retiring but she was still playing good tennis almost in her mid 30s here near the end of the 1980s. Decades ago but seems like yesterday. Evert's last major final, the year before she retired at the US Open.
AO Went From Grass to Hard Court From This Year.. Love The Generation - Gap Match Up.. 15 Years - 6 Months Age Difference.. ( 40 ) Slams Between Them..
I really wanted Chris to win but it was a no brainer that Sreffi would triumph because at this point she was the world no.1 and Chris was well past her peak
Evert's annual match winning stats weren't significantly worse in 1987/88 compared to 1983-86 when you exclude her matches against Steffi. Don't forget that Chris was 6-1 win/loss against baby Steffi in 1983-86 but 0-6 in 1987/88! So with her Steffi matches excluded Chris was 255-31 win/loss in 1983-86 and 133-18 in 1987/88 which translates to 89.2 % and 88.1 % respectively. So "well past her peak" is a misconception. "Well behind Steffi Graf" would be a better description.
Couldnt agree more. Womens tennis today feels so dramatic. They must dislike each other a lot. Personally, I watched most womens tennis matches in the 90s and some 2000s. Now that its basically just the east block of entitled drama queens - I have no interest in it. And i dont mean that in a racist way.
First slam in Steffi’s legendary journey to the ‘88 Golden Grand Slam winning all slams plus Olympic gold in a calendar year. 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🥇 🎉 👏 Incredible tennis achievement in any era! A few came close but could not prevail which truly shows how physically and mentally challenging this extremely rare historic event was, and which IMHO, elevated Steffi Graf as the greatest ever!!! Thank you AO for sharing the ‘88 AO final between two tennis greats ever in Steffi and Chris Evert. My appreciation and kind regards from a ‘Fraulein Forehand’ fan. I love saying her iconic moniker. Here’s why at 7:30, 20:24, 59:46 🤩
GOAT! The start of the Golden Slam. Never to be duplicated. This match was basically a 19 y.o. learning how to be a champion. It was only her 2nd Slam win - and then she ran the tables on 1988. Now I need to find the rest of the Golden Slam matches... Also, the '80s feathered hairstyles are freaking hilarious. Definitely brings back some bad '80s Hair Bands memories.
Amazing to see how flat Evert hit drives on both wings. Her backhand was almost a double-handed push. Compare with Swiatek's exaggerated modern topspin strokes.
Steffi Graf was an very great Idol for ne, but I don't play Tennis in my Life . Steffi was a human, intelligent and attraktive Tennis Player. In the early 80ies she was one of the best talented Tennis Player in the World. ☀️☀️☀️🍀🍀🍀😍😍😍
haven't seen a Steffi match with so many steady topspin backhands from her, she hardly missed them. Abandoned them later in her career, some really awful matches where she missed most of them or many. Looks rock solid here, in fact she missed more slice backhands in the 2nd set by far, very odd.
.....you re very right: comparing the wimbledon finals against navratilova in 1987/1988/1989, underlines Grafs improvement of her backhand drive. The defeat in 1987 showed clearly what was needed: Navratilova (who was Grafs biggest rival) had attacked her very successfully on her backhand side. Steffis improvement was the bases for her first win in 1988: Not only she was able to pass Martina permanently with perfect backhand drives but also to block or chip her serves - or even to reply with agressive backhand drives. i was watching all the matches these years. for me, there is a clear turning point of Graf abandoning her backhand drive: its the time when Steffis game and her mental toughness got deep scratches in April 1990: german newspapers had headlined about a secret affair of her father and the blackmailing following. Its also exactly the time when Steffi lost first time to Monica - causing a period of (very obvious) insecureness and a lack of confidence in Steffis game. my impressio that time: this insecureness stopped abruptly steffis approaches to make her backhand drive a potentially additional weapon - instead she reduced her game to the basics, playing only those strokes she was totally confident about. Not to think what would have been if she wouldnt have stopped: a reliable backhand drive down the line would have put Steffis game almost into another dimension.
You've done deeper analysis of the timeline than I have, but I did not get the sense that using slice-only backhands damaged her game particularly much because of how marvelous it was. I believe she had close to a continental grip on the backhand which makes topspin tougher to do (surprised how good it was here). I also marveled that she DID still pull out the topspin backhands necessarily on passes, surprisingly effectively well given how little of them she hit in the later matches
Graf s domination was total 6-1 5-1 but Evert reacted like the great champion she was. Second set was epic but Graf was so strong and opened a new era of women s sport
Perhaps not. Not the best at any slam, on any surface, nor tournaments overall, nor slams overall. If you factor in the men then she's really badly off. Better dust off those petticoat amateur titles and hope that distracts from the plethora of shortcomings.
@@jm7804she won 6 + slam of each surface (nobody have done that), winning quadruple slam & golden slam in 1988 in all three different surface (again neither any male or female had done that) so she is the most versatile tennis player of either gender.
@@jm7804 then you can't compare even Serena with any men even a NCAA champion would trash Serena lol😂😂. Remember some drunk German ranked no 200 kicked both Williams sisters ass under 1 hour. 😂😂
@@jm7804 from 1987-96 she had won 21 slams in just 9 years. Tell me did any men or women have achieved that ? No. So she is the most dominate champion in the open era.
@@johnp515 slam shouldn't be only criteria. Graf had more titles (107 titles) than Serena (73), more weeks at no 1 (377 weeks) than Serena (319 weeks), more year end no 1 (8) than Serena (5), better winning percentage (88) than Serena's (84). Don't forget Graf had golden slam (1988), quadruple career slam, 6+ slam on three different surface, successfully defended all 4 slams & winning atleast 3 slams on 5 different seasons. So 1 less slam doesn't makes any difference giving that Serena played a decade longer than Steffi.
Steffi - the girl was so beautiful and her game even more so. 😍 BJ King got it right when she said a few years ago that Steffi was “the first international superstar“!
At 30-all with Graf serving at 5-6 Chris choked with a backhand in the bottom of the net. Tennis is so mental. If Chris had allowed herself to feel like she should’ve won the second set she would’ve, instead she hoped instead of playing from pride being behind. Right there at 30-all she knew she was 2 points from second set. First six matches with Steffi Chris expected to win and her heart played from this feeling. Graf was reaching her peak improving while Chris was 32 in 1986( end of 86).
the most fascinating about young Steffi Graf was her breathaking consistant improvement.....i ve the impression that she was built up much more carefully as other uprising teenage stars before or later on.... .it was very obvious that its only a question of time of her surpassing Evert (besides Chrissies age) and to challenge the that time almost unbeatable martina....the wimbledon final of 1988 between Graf and Navrartilova is qualitywise one of the best matches ever played....
It is quite incredible that some people don't think that the Seles stabbing didn't change the history of women tennis. Before the stabbing Seles had won 3 out of 4 GS finals against Steffi and was the number 1. Graf was amazing and is one of the best 5 players in the history but there are things thar are obvious.
I think the Graf Blackmail Scandal changed the history of women's tennis far more. Before that scandal Steffi won 3 or 4 slams and lost only 2 or 3 matches per year. Sadly crime is a part of life. Just look at this: From 1987 to April 1990 (begin of that nasty scandal) Steffi made 14 major finals (slams, YECs) and missed only 1. Almost the same from May 1993 (Seles stabbing) to 1996 - 14 major finals made and only 3 missed. So those two Steffi peak periods taken together mean 28 finals made and only 4 finals missed. 28-4. But in between - from May 1990 to April 1993 - Steffi made only 6 major finals but missed 8. 6-8. That is a MASSIVE slump for one of the all-time greats. And it was exactly the same period when Seles won 8 slams. It is very dishonest of Seles fans to ignore that. But that's the way they are - and the reason they don't get a lot of respect from Graf fans.
I am a Graf fan and a Seles fan. Both were great. I am telling that one of them took advantage of the fact that the other didn't play because she was stabbed. I don't need any fans respect.
You are confirming my point. Hahaha. You are saying that she improved her percentage from May 1993 (the stabbing). And the blackmail is the only reason, not Seles, why she decreased in her level. Wow. Bye.
@@javiernunez8113 Yes, Steffi was 65-8 win/loss in 1991. Only a 89.0 winning percentage. But she was 80-2 win/loss in the 12 months after the stabbing. A 97.6 winning percentage. What exactly had the stabbing to do with that....? 🤔
Didn't realize they were so chill when they won Grand Slams back then. Now everything is falling to the floor, fist-pumping, firing balls into the stands, etc.
Yeah I think it's pretty normal to go crazy after winning the biggest title in tennis especially when it's just your second grand slam title. I had to look up the video if it was really a final because her idgaf reaction was so weird to me.
Watching this match, what I most noted was how many rollers Graf hit from the backhand! Normally you can count them on one hand for an entire match, but Evert made her play longer points and she was hitting several rollers each game...a shot she ordinarily saved unless she knew she absolutely had to hit it. Evert also made more errors than she usually did.
This was a very controversial match at the time because it was the first grand slam final where the roof was closed. Supporters of Evert felt that it ruined her chances - the indoor conditions were faster and favoured Steffi, who'd also been practicing indoors. Many felt that the Australian Open was an outdoor event and should have been played outdoors.
@@carrerau7138quite a few people in the tennis world. It took a while for the roof to be accepted - many people weren't sure it was a good idea. You'll notice how long it took the other grand slams to adopt them.
@tobiasisback4605I'll repeat that this was controversial because it was the first time it happened. Views on it were very different to today. Nobody complained about the Murray match because closing the roof is now a normal accepted thing. Back then it was a completely new novelty and people weren't sure whether it was a good idea or not. You'll notice just how many years it took the other grand slams to build a roof on their stadiums. The jury was out for some time.
It would not have helped Evert in any way. Steffi would have murdered Chris in the 3rd set. Don't forget that Steffi had several 61 62 or 62 61 wins over the American old-timer in 1987-89.
Chris Evert had to do the same thing earlier in her career. She would hit the first serve, if that went in, she would throw the send ball back and then start the point because she needed both hands.
Remember watching Chris in the Whitman Cup in The Royal Albert Hall.. she was playing Jo Durie...Durie was on top form that first set..I honestly believe she " would " have beaten anyone that day ....to this day some of Everts returns were absolutely extraordinary!!... it went to a tie break which Jo lost ..in the 2nd set...!!! poor Jo was swept aside 6-1..!!!
A player who loses 13 times in a row to Navratilova and 7 times in a row to teenage Steffi certainly is not even close to being the best woman tennis player of all time.
& for all the arguments that Steffi isn't the greatest!! She skipped the Australian Open a bunch on times...she would easily have the Grand Slam record if she didn't...
@joeyconvery2055 what dope are you smoking!? Steffi has a 10 wins 5 losses record against Monica!! & no one be #1 forever, nice try though. Younger players come up the ranks, Steffi, Monica, Hingis, & Serena. Only Golden Slam winner male or female...Ms. Steffi Graf!!
@boybawang1981 Monica is nearly 5 years younger than Steffi...Steffi defeated Monica when she was a rookie at 15 years old. Monica was catching up fast WINNING 8 Majors from May 1990 til Jan 1993...Steffi LOST 9 Majors during that time. Monica was on a roll but then was stabbed which stopped her momentum.. And she left the tour. Graf benefited from the stabbing. Monica is the GOAT because she beat up poor Steffi. 😆
@@joeyconvery2055 what does age have to do with anything!? Young players always have the advantage of being new and younger...that's why you had great young players like Graf, Seles, & Hingis who burst onto the scene!! & a crazy fan stabbing Monica has nothing to do with Steffi. That's just a deranged crazy. Steffi played in 3 eras of greatness from the 80's, 90's, and 2000's!! She played against greats Martina, Chris, Monica, Hingis, Serena, and a slew of other tennis players.
The commentator misjudged Graf's game when claiming she was winning points "without having to work for them at all" towards the end of set 1. Steffi's powerful strokes just made it look easier than it is.
@@carrerau7138 I just love good Tennis! I'm Austrian living in Austria but I lived in the US for 9 years in my teens/twens. I also like Steffi despite the fact that she's German. 😅
Both women were looking very fit. A different type of tennis where we can see both players, especially Evert building the points, trying to probe for weakness and using strategy unlike today's game of brute force and tech fueled power.
Steffi has maximum percentage of winning in women's tennis but she suddenly took retirement when she was on top won 7 Wimbledon championship only 2 less than NAVARATILOVA. Steffi had fittness capacity to win more than 2 Wimbledon when already won 7 titles when she was on top and person like me felt anguish when Steffi took retirement.
I searched for this final to watch it because I couldn't remember who won it. On the search page, it showed the winner holding the trophy! What's the point of that? I suppose it saved me time by not having to watch it. Slightly annoyed though.
@teddyboy3120 You are talking about the slow ReboundAce hard court the AO had back then or what?? And what, a faster (!) court would have helped Evert and Seles???? Are you talking about the same Evert who lost 16 of 17 sets against Steffi from spring 1986 until 1989, in half of them winning less than 3 games? That Evert? Do you just want to troll me, you clown?
For sure, Chris came out toe-to-toe with Graf, at 2-1 (first 3 games took 10 minutes, a little more) off the court for 1 hr 23 minute delay, that changed the course of the match. Chris was flat, Graf was at 6-1, 4-0, in a just less than 22 minutes after the delay. It's misleading when the commentator says, while be back after a short delay. It was quite a long delay, for them to get the roof closed.
Despite Graf is an amazing champion and a tennis legend, she can’t be considered as the Goat. I have great respect for her, but ignoring that the ignoble stabbing, horribly suffered by Seles, helped Graf tremendously in achieving her tennis records, even if unintentionally, it’s like ignoring the existence of the force of gravity on Earth.
Good grief, will the petty attempts to denigrate Graf's place in history never end? The only people who share your opinion are nutty Seles fans who exist apart from reality in a world of "what ifs"...some say Graf is the greatest, others say Martina, even more say Serena and some contrarians make some weird claim about Court. But each has an argument to be made, some better than others.
The 1990-92 Graf Blackmail Scandal helped Seles far, far more than this stabbing helped Steffi. That stabbing actually cost Steffi the Wimbledon 1994 title! Whereas I don’t see which slam Steffi would not have won without the stabbing. She was better than Seles on every surface.
Its a clash between two generations . Graf and Seles and a few others changed the women tennis in the late 80's. It happened again with Williams but this is a one sided story.
1991/92 were Seles's peak years when she dominated and was #1. In 1990 Seles was still far behind Steffi in the rankings. And 1993 had just started with tournaments having been played mostly on slower surfaces (favoring Seles). So 1991/92 are the years to look at. Seles won 6 slams then, Steffi won 2 Wimbledons. Seles had her best and her 2nd-best year ever. Steffi only had her 9th-best and 11th-best year. Steffi beat Seles in 3 of 4 matches. BTW, please compare Steffi's two best years (1988/89) with Seles two best (1991/92). Steffi was on a higher level.
It is fantastic that you keep erasing the australian open 93 which was on a Hard surface. And yes, Seles could not play the rest of the year in 1993 because she was STABBED.
@@javiernunez8113 The AO's ReboundAce from 1988 to 2008 was a slow surface with a very high ball-bounce. Perfect for Seles. But Steffi was far better at the AO 94 than at the AO 93. Her results against Sanchez at the AO and against Navratilova one week later in Tokyo in both 1993 and 1994 are proof for that. She would have crushed Seles anyway. Seles could have played again at the USO 93. She decided not to play, most probably because her dad had been diagnosed with cancer a few weeks before.
Hahaha. Yes, she was better because Seles WAS NOT PLAYING BECAUSE SHE WAS STABBED. My God. She would have crushed Seles... Hahaha. Pure hate for Seles. No reasoning.
@@javiernunez8113 You mean Steffi struggled against Sanchez and lost against Navratilova in winter 1993 because Seles was still on the tour but crushed both players in winter 1994 because Seles was absent after the stabbing? So apparently Seles had voodoo powers? I think it is more probable that your mom let you fall on your head as a toddler….
Chris still had the game to make trouble for Steffi, as she showed in the second set of this match and the following year in Key Biscayne (which she should have won) but she was, at last, too old and uncertain mentally. The greatest thing about this crap match is hearing the lovely voice of the priceless Evonne Goolagong for the first bit. The only player who could ever match Chris in elegance and decorum, if not titles. Chris and Evonne MADE the explosion of the women’s tour in the 1970s-it sure as hell wasn’t Billie Jean King filling stadiums (aside from carnival matches).
i think this is when chris decited to quit. tennis had changed. tennis from the back had changed and she could not compete anymore. it's a matter of the changing of the game. tennis was becomming something different.
when your tennis has been growen with a kind of instrument (70' wooden rackets) there,s nothing to do. it's like playing soccer with a rugby ball. it's another game
@@carrerau7138 of course she did. I know. Her top career ended here. We know. She realized. She was not a top player anymore. Because the game had changed. Her face tells it all.
@@francescobattisti9926 At the end of 1988 (11 months after this AO 88 final) Chris Evert still was WTA #3 behind Steffi and Navratilova who simply were two better players. So the facts don’t agree with your gut feeling.
Chris did say she lost interest in the game when she felt like she was no longer competing for #1. She had no interest in being a perennial bridesmaid in the Grand Slam semis.
If one of the opponents in these matches were tennis players such as Aryna Sabalenka or Iga Swiatek, even if one of the top 100 female tennis players in the world ranking was the opponent, Steffi Graf or Chris Evert, what would the result be? God knows.
They have no chance against Steffi or even against 33 years old Chrissy with that older racquet. That's why it's tough to compare era. Give wooden racquet to Djokovic then his game would be quite different.
Give a 19-year-old Steffi one of today‘s rackets, let her practice with it for a few weeks. I don‘t think she would lose even one match. Maybe now and then one on clay against Iga. The rest - forget it.
Being Seles her main competitor, Graf could win more GS. She also recovered the number one position that Seles took away from her. Everyone knows this. Many pro players of that time are certain about this including Navratilova who admitted this fact.
@@javiernunez8113 Navratilova is American like Seles. And still bitter that Steffi became the new Tennis Queen in 1987. And that almost no one today (not even in the USA!) thinks that she was greater than Steffi. So her opinion has zero merit. BTW, Steffi’s main competitor in the early 90s was Sabatini. Sabatini was 6-2 win/loss in 1991/92 against Steffi, Seles was 1-3.
It is not relevant that both are americans. Not only Navratilova said it, many experts say it and it is obvious. Navratilova's opinion has all the merits, otherwise you know little about tennis. Btw, check your numbers, Sabatini could defeat Steffi in her 12th match. The 6-2 never existed. As regards GS finals, Seles won 3 out of four against Graf before the stabbing. Check your numbers please. Seles btw was number 1 in march 1991.
Give those racquet to today's ladies, see what they can do. Give a 20 years old Steffi a modern & powerful racquet, believe me she would beat anybody on any surface.
Pure Elegance on both Sides. Chris and Steffi are my two Icons in Womens Tennis.
So excited to finally see this match in good quality. Steffi Graf biggest fan ever
Watching Graf preparing each serve was like watching a little piano piece played to perfection: crisp, elegant, purposeful and identical to the one before it.
And very ugly! But, yes, I do appreciate the precision..
Monica beat up Steffi. 😂
@@joeyconvery2055😂😂😂😂 10-5 for Graf 🤷🏻♂️
@danielrojas4238 Do you have amnesia? First of all Monica is nearly 5 years younger than Steffi...Steffi beating Monica when she was only 15 years old.
Monica left the tour for over 2 years because of the stabbing. Don't you know that?
Before the stabbing Monica dethroned Steffi as World Number 1...and was 1000 points ahead of Graf in the rankings.
From May 1990 til Jan 1993, Monica won 8 Slams as a teen...and Steffi lost 9 Slams during that time.
I like Steffi ..she is one of the Greats but Monica was on a roll...Monica beat Steffi in 3 Major finals also.
@@joeyconvery2055 6-4 before the stabbing and NOT forget that by the time Monica was beating Graf, Graf was suffering injuries and all the problems with her father, be OBJETIVE not a delusional.
Their footwork is beautiful. CE's technique is so good -- she rarely ever looks as if she can't execute a return perfectly and in balance. And Steffi -- well, a great athlete who is strong and fast.
The invisible trampoline under Steffi's feet!
Two icons of tennis for sure
Chris Everett Lloyd, is the reason why I became to love watching tennis.
Good old Retty!
That's really exciting to hear...
Christine „Chris“ Marie Evert Is Her Base Name.
I watch Tennis because of Steffi playing style
Evert
Pure class
2 of my favorite especially grafff
She played with so much class ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉
love it.. every grand slam tournaments youtube channels are now uploading classics matches... 🥰
note: in early years of her career, Graf always held her second ball during her play with her left hand, proof that she's the real one handed player 😁
Graf surely still has the best movement in the history of women's tennis.
Foot work, foot work, foot work. Feet always moving.
I have seen them live. They are both great players.
Lucky! I'm jealous.
The Evert comeback starts at 34 minutes. The same attributes that got her from 1-6, 1-5 to a TB, got her out of countless scrapes in earlier rounds of tournaments. One of the secrets to her consistency was a never say die attitude. She may lose, she may lose badly, but she never stops looking for that crack in the door, that little tactical edge that can win her some crucial points. Here Chris is just trying to lengthen the points, and find some way to suck Graf into errors while she prods and pokes for some opennings for winners. She finds them - just not enough.
Great analysis! Chris is so mentally tough, and hits with such precision. At 6-5, 30 all, second serve …..she made a couple of very tired unforced errors. Otherwise , we got a 3rd set.
@@thomasmagnum3588 That's exactly what happened in Boca Raton in Spring of 1989! Evert did not win, but she took Graf to a third set for the first time in their rivalry
@@thomasmagnum3588 She didn't have a lethal shot from the baseline. That was the difference between players from her generation vs the newer players like Graf.
Thank you for adding this Australian Open!
I am suprised that Steffi plays so many backhand topspins. In 90ties she used to play almost only slices from that wing.
Wow, no falling to the floor, tears galore, just a friendly handshake at the end.
You forgot primal screams of "COME ON" starting with the first point of the match. These two were always all business on the court. There are only a handful of players who behave this way any longer.
@@jm7804 yeah Williams sisters made tennis more vulgar & ugly.🤮🤮
@@jm7804 don't forget every point they win, they wave their arms up at the stand to stir up the crowd. Sinner with his fist pumping on every single point and Alcaraz moaning and grunting, vamos and begging for the crowd to join in.
Back when tennis was what it's supposed to be. Today we have too many drama kings and queens.
@@kenmoreSF Em, I suppose it's the legacy they have been left from the recent generation.
Miss you Steffi😊
Tennis was so refreshing back then, no screaming and hollering after winning a single point, just wonderful tennis, boy do I miss it..........
You old fogies love to make this comment. There were vocal players both men's and women's back then too. Get over it. Tone policing pro athletes is cringy af.
True that!!!
@@TheCyclesport No screaming? At least not on court.
Yes just OFF court. Thank God. Lol
I love the screams and the letting out of emotions. That Steffi Graf era was weak. Only one or two talented players. The most exciting era emerged after the Williams sisters joined.
I am a big fan of Steffi and her matches kept me awake whilst l lived in Germany 🇩🇪
Steffi dominated 1988-90. You can see she is ahead of this era of play with her strong serve and forehand power. And yet, quite far from the player she eventually became. Talks about how much tennis evolved overall
Steffi never was better than in 1988/89.
From 1988 A.O & 1996 US open Graf won 20 of the 33 slams she participated & reached 6 other final. That's insane dominance 😱😱. If that's not the true dominance i don't know what will be.
Yeah, in 8 years and 8 months.
Unreal!
Agree with you, except we have to acknowledge what effect Monica Seles being stabbed had on that dominance. Had Monica stayed on tour, who knows how many more she would have taken instead of Steffi.
@@lflagr yeah but Monica was also benefitted from Steffi's father's nasty scandal, blackmail scandal & bad publicity from German media about Steffi. Again Steffi also suffered knee injury in 1997 that allows Martina Hingis to no 1 without even challenging Steffi other wise it's Steffi who easily would have broken long standing record of Margaret Court 24 slams.
@@lflagr But she didn‘t stay on the tour for 2 years, right?
And the Graf family was blackmailed, right?
And Henin ended her career prematurely due to burnout, right?
So everybody can cherry-pick their own favorite “what-if-scenario“, right?
Monica would have been on 20 slams and Steffi at a maximum of ten.
Steffi Graf is an extraordinary right-handed tennis player with a one-handed backhand and an extremely powerful forehand strike.
@tobiasisback4605ironically?
thanks, I had no idea
@tobiasisback4605 That can't be said too often.
Because here on YT many players are called "great" who surely were not "extraordinary".
This is close to Chris retiring but she was still playing good tennis almost in her mid 30s here near the end of the 1980s. Decades ago but seems like yesterday. Evert's last major final, the year before she retired at the US Open.
Chris had just turned 33.
Graf was a beast on the court, her backhand slice was delicious, it skidded and died so low that it would even work today
AO Went From Grass to Hard Court From This Year..
Love The Generation - Gap Match Up..
15 Years - 6 Months Age Difference..
( 40 ) Slams Between Them..
The Greatest Ever
Evert is yes
Queen Steffi 😊😊
Wow!! Australian Open channel at it yet again! Many thanks!
Steffi Graf 🐐🎾
I really wanted Chris to win but it was a no brainer that Sreffi would triumph because at this point she was the world no.1 and Chris was well past her peak
Evert's annual match winning stats weren't significantly worse in 1987/88 compared to 1983-86 when you exclude her matches against Steffi. Don't forget that Chris was 6-1 win/loss against baby Steffi in 1983-86 but 0-6 in 1987/88!
So with her Steffi matches excluded Chris was 255-31 win/loss in 1983-86 and 133-18 in 1987/88 which translates to 89.2 % and 88.1 % respectively.
So "well past her peak" is a misconception.
"Well behind Steffi Graf" would be a better description.
Evert would slaughter Graf at her peak
@@yussepig6629you are delusional, Steffi Graf was faster and stronger 💪. Tennis is an evolving sports each generation gets better
@@MrBjorn6 No, the level went down significantly after 1999.
Ahh , the good ol' days - no shrieking , grunting or tantrums ! Steffi my all time fave .Chris not far behind .
Couldnt agree more. Womens tennis today feels so dramatic. They must dislike each other a lot. Personally, I watched most womens tennis matches in the 90s and some 2000s. Now that its basically just the east block of entitled drama queens - I have no interest in it. And i dont mean that in a racist way.
And when female players look female...sans Navratilova.
@@lwh7301 😅Yeah, Navratilove really 'changed the game' lol
@@lwh7301 Compared to Serena, Sabalenka, Stosur Martina was super-feminine.
MY NUMBER 1,FAVORITE TENNIS PLAYER EVER 😊.
STEFFI GRAF ❤
Mine too ❤❤❤😊😊😊
First slam in Steffi’s legendary journey to the ‘88 Golden Grand Slam winning all slams plus Olympic gold in a calendar year. 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🥇 🎉 👏
Incredible tennis achievement in any era! A few came close but could not prevail which truly shows how physically and mentally challenging this extremely rare historic event was, and which IMHO, elevated Steffi Graf as the greatest ever!!!
Thank you AO for sharing the ‘88 AO final between two tennis greats ever in Steffi and Chris Evert. My appreciation and kind regards from a ‘Fraulein Forehand’ fan. I love saying her iconic moniker. Here’s why at 7:30, 20:24, 59:46 🤩
I thought it was called the Golden Slam, not Golden Grand Slam?
@@RexHeuermann I think you’re right. I inadvertently added ‘grand’ because it’s such an incredible achievement.
GOAT! The start of the Golden Slam. Never to be duplicated. This match was basically a 19 y.o. learning how to be a champion. It was only her 2nd Slam win - and then she ran the tables on 1988. Now I need to find the rest of the Golden Slam matches... Also, the '80s feathered hairstyles are freaking hilarious. Definitely brings back some bad '80s Hair Bands memories.
steffi"s legs are too die for!
40 Grand slams between the two.
Steffi to this day is still my choice for GOAT...Chris Evert comes in 4th spot
Yes, Steffi, then Navratilova or Court (can't decide!), then Evert, then Serena.
@@carrerau7138Why have you included a male in a female list?
@@RexHeuermann Did your transition go wrong, girl?
@@RexHeuermann😂😂😂
Graf not even top 5. Seles stabbing inflated her numbers hugely. Evert, Navratilova, Serena, Seles, Court and King are above her
Ah, the first leg in that once-in-a-generation tennis achievement: The Golden Grand Slam
That was 36 years ago.
More than a generation.
Amazing to see how flat Evert hit drives on both wings. Her backhand was almost a double-handed push. Compare with Swiatek's exaggerated modern topspin strokes.
Great quality upload..
Steffi Graf was an very great Idol for ne,
but I don't play Tennis in my Life .
Steffi was a human, intelligent and attraktive Tennis Player.
In the early 80ies she was one of the best talented Tennis Player in the World.
☀️☀️☀️🍀🍀🍀😍😍😍
Graf with the new style of Tennis knew exactly how to beat the American.
Steffi regularly destroyed Americans.
Only when Evert aged
Wasn't nobody gonna beat Steffi that year. Calendar Golden Slam winner, never to be matched. 🏆🎾💪
Gracias Steffi !! Danke
haven't seen a Steffi match with so many steady topspin backhands from her, she hardly missed them. Abandoned them later in her career, some really awful matches where she missed most of them or many. Looks rock solid here, in fact she missed more slice backhands in the 2nd set by far, very odd.
.....you re very right: comparing the wimbledon finals against navratilova in 1987/1988/1989, underlines Grafs improvement of her backhand drive. The defeat in 1987 showed clearly what was needed: Navratilova (who was Grafs biggest rival) had attacked her very successfully on her backhand side.
Steffis improvement was the bases for her first win in 1988: Not only she was able to pass Martina permanently with perfect backhand drives but also to block or chip her serves - or even to reply with agressive backhand drives.
i was watching all the matches these years. for me, there is a clear turning point of Graf abandoning her backhand drive: its the time when Steffis game and her mental toughness got deep scratches in April 1990: german newspapers had headlined about a secret affair of her father and the blackmailing following. Its also exactly the time when Steffi lost first time to Monica - causing a period of (very obvious) insecureness and a lack of confidence in Steffis game.
my impressio that time: this insecureness stopped abruptly steffis approaches to make her backhand drive a potentially additional weapon - instead she reduced her game to the basics, playing only those strokes she was totally confident about.
Not to think what would have been if she wouldnt have stopped: a reliable backhand drive down the line would have put Steffis game almost into another dimension.
You've done deeper analysis of the timeline than I have, but I did not get the sense that using slice-only backhands damaged her game particularly much because of how marvelous it was. I believe she had close to a continental grip on the backhand which makes topspin tougher to do (surprised how good it was here). I also marveled that she DID still pull out the topspin backhands necessarily on passes, surprisingly effectively well given how little of them she hit in the later matches
Graf s domination was total 6-1 5-1 but Evert reacted like the great champion she was. Second set was epic but Graf was so strong and opened a new era of women s sport
The camera angle is just terrible. What were they thinking ?
Most fans like it that way.
Begining the era of perhaps the most dominate player in open era tennis history (male or female). Steffi famous golden slam year of 1988.🙌🙌
Perhaps not. Not the best at any slam, on any surface, nor tournaments overall, nor slams overall. If you factor in the men then she's really badly off. Better dust off those petticoat amateur titles and hope that distracts from the plethora of shortcomings.
@@jm7804she won 6 + slam of each surface (nobody have done that), winning quadruple slam & golden slam in 1988 in all three different surface (again neither any male or female had done that) so she is the most versatile tennis player of either gender.
@@jm7804 then you can't compare even Serena with any men even a NCAA champion would trash Serena lol😂😂. Remember some drunk German ranked no 200 kicked both Williams sisters ass under 1 hour. 😂😂
@@jm7804 from 1987-96 she had won 21 slams in just 9 years. Tell me did any men or women have achieved that ? No. So she is the most dominate champion in the open era.
@@rajusaha855 You can't even count right. The WTA tour years 1987-1996 account for 10 years, not 9. As usual you lie right through your dentures.
Stefanie Graf is The GOAT, both statistically and logically/virtually.
Why statistically? She won 22 Grand Slams. Serena Williams won 23. And what do you mean by logically/virtually?
@@johnp515 slam shouldn't be only criteria. Graf had more titles (107 titles) than Serena (73), more weeks at no 1 (377 weeks) than Serena (319 weeks), more year end no 1 (8) than Serena (5), better winning percentage (88) than Serena's (84). Don't forget Graf had golden slam (1988), quadruple career slam, 6+ slam on three different surface, successfully defended all 4 slams & winning atleast 3 slams on 5 different seasons. So 1 less slam doesn't makes any difference giving that Serena played a decade longer than Steffi.
Totally agree with u..she is the GOAT
Thanks to Gunter ass hole. Monica was beating her ass around in all three majors except Wimbledon until his intervention.
@@johnp515 I hope you got the memo from @rajusaha... And by logic I mean sometimes logic defeats stats/numbers...
if a player with chrissy evert’s strokes could come to dominate professional tennis, anything must really be possible
You sound clueless
@@yussepig6629 no. they’re terrible.
Your flag says everything about you.
Steffi - the girl was so beautiful and her game even more so. 😍
BJ King got it right when she said a few years ago that Steffi was “the first international superstar“!
That's amazing i never heard that story but BJK was right. Graf was truly the first global star in women's tennis much like Borg in 70's.
Id say Chris Evert was 😮
@@MrBjorn6 Not international, far from it.
@@MrBjorn6 Evert lacks global appeal outside of USA. Even in Europe she was not that popular.
Beautiful? Please buy new glasses. Good tennis player yes, beautiful no. Maria S. is beautiful not Graff.
At 30-all with Graf serving at 5-6 Chris choked with a backhand in the bottom of the net. Tennis is so mental. If Chris had allowed herself to feel like she should’ve won the second set she would’ve, instead she hoped instead of playing from pride being behind. Right there at 30-all she knew she was 2 points from second set. First six matches with Steffi Chris expected to win and her heart played from this feeling. Graf was reaching her peak improving while Chris was 32 in 1986( end of 86).
Evert didn‘t “choke“, she just hit an unforced error.
I don‘t think you ever held a tennis racket in your hand, kid…
the most fascinating about young Steffi Graf was her breathaking consistant improvement.....i ve the impression that she was built up much more carefully as other uprising teenage stars before or later on.... .it was very obvious that its only a question of time of her surpassing Evert (besides Chrissies age) and to challenge the that time almost unbeatable martina....the wimbledon final of 1988 between Graf and Navrartilova is qualitywise one of the best matches ever played....
It is quite incredible that some people don't think that the Seles stabbing didn't change the history of women tennis. Before the stabbing Seles had won 3 out of 4 GS finals against Steffi and was the number 1. Graf was amazing and is one of the best 5 players in the history but there are things thar are obvious.
I think the Graf Blackmail Scandal changed the history of women's tennis far more.
Before that scandal Steffi won 3 or 4 slams and lost only 2 or 3 matches per year.
Sadly crime is a part of life.
Just look at this:
From 1987 to April 1990 (begin of that nasty scandal) Steffi made 14 major finals (slams, YECs) and missed only 1. Almost the same from May 1993 (Seles stabbing) to 1996 - 14 major finals made and only 3 missed.
So those two Steffi peak periods taken together mean 28 finals made and only 4 finals missed.
28-4.
But in between - from May 1990 to April 1993 - Steffi made only 6 major finals but missed 8.
6-8.
That is a MASSIVE slump for one of the all-time greats.
And it was exactly the same period when Seles won 8 slams.
It is very dishonest of Seles fans to ignore that. But that's the way they are - and the reason they don't get a lot of respect from Graf fans.
I am a Graf fan and a Seles fan. Both were great. I am telling that one of them took advantage of the fact that the other didn't play because she was stabbed. I don't need any fans respect.
You are confirming my point. Hahaha. You are saying that she improved her percentage from May 1993 (the stabbing). And the blackmail is the only reason, not Seles, why she decreased in her level. Wow. Bye.
Are you Steffi Graf commenting here?
@@javiernunez8113
Yes, Steffi was 65-8 win/loss in 1991. Only a 89.0 winning percentage.
But she was 80-2 win/loss in the 12 months after the stabbing. A 97.6 winning percentage.
What exactly had the stabbing to do with that....? 🤔
1988 Graf won the Slam and so did the Swedish duo of Wilander and Edberg....
u will never see stefi nor sampras doing comentaries. they really gave the floor to other players
No TV station would be able to pay Steffi.
Didn't realize they were so chill when they won Grand Slams back then. Now everything is falling to the floor, fist-pumping, firing balls into the stands, etc.
Yeah I think it's pretty normal to go crazy after winning the biggest title in tennis especially when it's just your second grand slam title. I had to look up the video if it was really a final because her idgaf reaction was so weird to me.
@@PatoNani18 right? I didn't expect some crazy display of whatnot, but maybe hands in the air and a smile?
@@MrTrestoSteffi had a nice smile, you just have to look.
Watching this match, what I most noted was how many rollers Graf hit from the backhand! Normally you can count them on one hand for an entire match, but Evert made her play longer points and she was hitting several rollers each game...a shot she ordinarily saved unless she knew she absolutely had to hit it. Evert also made more errors than she usually did.
This was a very controversial match at the time because it was the first grand slam final where the roof was closed. Supporters of Evert felt that it ruined her chances - the indoor conditions were faster and favoured Steffi, who'd also been practicing indoors. Many felt that the Australian Open was an outdoor event and should have been played outdoors.
Who except some nationalistic Americans felt that?
@@carrerau7138quite a few people in the tennis world. It took a while for the roof to be accepted - many people weren't sure it was a good idea. You'll notice how long it took the other grand slams to adopt them.
@tobiasisback4605I'll repeat that this was controversial because it was the first time it happened. Views on it were very different to today. Nobody complained about the Murray match because closing the roof is now a normal accepted thing. Back then it was a completely new novelty and people weren't sure whether it was a good idea or not. You'll notice just how many years it took the other grand slams to build a roof on their stadiums. The jury was out for some time.
@@zeddeka Because a roof is very expensive.
@@zeddeka whether it's roof or without roof Graf would still beat Evert in straight sets.
Are they both using the Wilson Pro Staff?
Graf used Dunlop 200g
Ah OK, thank you. @@kidpagronprimsank05
Evert play very similar to martina hingis
Wow Steffi Graf wins a Grand Slam final as a teenager and acts like she just won a second round match.
I never realized Evert was 2 points away from winning the second set and squandered the opportunity with poor shot selection.
It would not have helped Evert in any way.
Steffi would have murdered Chris in the 3rd set.
Don't forget that Steffi had several 61 62 or 62 61 wins over the American old-timer in 1987-89.
Great tennis and not a shrieking, grunting big-shouldered, broad-hipped behemoth in sight.
Interesting that Graf is holding a ball in her left hand while serving and having a rally like in a practice session 😮
Well, holding in the right hand would have been very complicated!
Yes; later in her career she stopped doing it.
This was pretty common thing back in the days.
Chris Evert had to do the same thing earlier in her career. She would hit the first serve, if that went in, she would throw the send ball back and then start the point because she needed both hands.
Chris evert for ever
Chris
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@@carrerau7138 sorry.
Remember watching Chris in the Whitman Cup in The Royal Albert Hall.. she was playing Jo Durie...Durie was on top form that first set..I honestly believe she " would " have beaten anyone that day ....to this day some of Everts returns were absolutely extraordinary!!... it went to a tie break which Jo lost ..in the 2nd set...!!!
poor Jo was swept aside 6-1..!!!
Chris is the best woman tennis player of all the times 🎉
A player who loses 13 times in a row to Navratilova and 7 times in a row to teenage Steffi certainly is not even close to being the best woman tennis player of all time.
@@carrerau7138 nnaah 👎
How many "times" _are_ there, exactly?
& for all the arguments that Steffi isn't the greatest!! She skipped the Australian Open a bunch on times...she would easily have the Grand Slam record if she didn't...
No, Monica beat up Steffi😂... and dethroned her..if Steffi was so great, she would never have lost her number 1 ranking to Monica.
@joeyconvery2055 what dope are you smoking!? Steffi has a 10 wins 5 losses record against Monica!! & no one be #1 forever, nice try though. Younger players come up the ranks, Steffi, Monica, Hingis, & Serena. Only Golden Slam winner male or female...Ms. Steffi Graf!!
@boybawang1981 Monica is nearly 5 years younger than Steffi...Steffi defeated Monica when she was a rookie at 15 years old.
Monica was catching up fast WINNING 8 Majors from May 1990 til Jan 1993...Steffi LOST 9 Majors during that time.
Monica was on a roll but then was stabbed which stopped her momentum..
And she left the tour.
Graf benefited from the stabbing.
Monica is the GOAT because she beat up poor Steffi. 😆
@@joeyconvery2055 what does age have to do with anything!? Young players always have the advantage of being new and younger...that's why you had great young players like Graf, Seles, & Hingis who burst onto the scene!! & a crazy fan stabbing Monica has nothing to do with Steffi. That's just a deranged crazy. Steffi played in 3 eras of greatness from the 80's, 90's, and 2000's!! She played against greats Martina, Chris, Monica, Hingis, Serena, and a slew of other tennis players.
@boybawang1981 Monica is the GOAT because she beat up Steffi.
Poor Steffi. 😆
The commentator misjudged Graf's game when claiming she was winning points "without having to work for them at all" towards the end of set 1. Steffi's powerful strokes just made it look easier than it is.
The commentators were Americans and big Evert fans, so give them a pass.
@@carrerau7138 Oh, I am an Evert fan too! 😉
@@meilstone But apparently an objective one.
And not American, right?
@@carrerau7138 I just love good Tennis! I'm Austrian living in Austria but I lived in the US for 9 years in my teens/twens. I also like Steffi despite the fact that she's German. 😅
@@meilstone I would think that must have been a bonus for you, Steffi being German (like Mozart was!).
Both women were looking very fit.
A different type of tennis where we can see both players, especially Evert building the points, trying to probe for weakness and using strategy unlike today's game of brute force and tech fueled power.
Why reveal in the thumbnail who won? I get these are historic matches but I wouldn’t have had a clue without looking up.
Every tennis fan knows who won this match.
Because anyone who follows tennis knows who won the Grand Slams in 1988.
Go Steffi
Chris evert loyyd ❤
I forgot - what was the American excuse for a loss this time?
Surface too green?
🤭
Steffi does almost everything better than Chris, but if this had gotten to a third set, I wouldn't bet against Chris.
I would.
Steffi would have been mad about herself.
6-1 for Steffi.
It is amazing that Graf was so successful with slicing like 95 percent of her backhands.
That was the reason WHY she was so successful.
@@carrerau7138 Her footwork and forehand are bigger reasons imo but the slice bh was definitely a weapon
If Chrissie sneaked that second set I think she would have won. Graf was so rattled and Chrissie was starting to play better.
😂😂😂
You 🤡!
The Beginning Of The Most Impressive Year Ever For A Woman In Tennis.
Did you know that Monica beat up Steffi? 😂
Monica dethroned Steffi as World Number 1.
@@joeyconvery2055 She Never Won The "Golden Slam" And Wasn`t The Longest Time On Position 1 Like Graf.
@@M.EngelhART Monica kicked Steffi's butt. 😆
@@joeyconvery2055 But(t) It Didn`t Change My View Of Things. ;-)
@@joeyconvery2055 I Got A Nice One. ;-)
Why this thumbnail
What the hell were they thinking with that Birds eye view of a camera angle? 😂
This was '88, ffs.
Steffi has maximum percentage of winning in women's tennis but she suddenly took retirement when she was on top won 7 Wimbledon championship only 2 less than NAVARATILOVA. Steffi had fittness capacity to win more than 2 Wimbledon when already won 7 titles when she was on top and person like me felt anguish when Steffi took retirement.
I searched for this final to watch it because I couldn't remember who won it. On the search page, it showed the winner holding the trophy! What's the point of that? I suppose it saved me time by not having to watch it. Slightly annoyed though.
Chris was completely lost after the roof closed. Too bad she missed the point at 15-30 6-5 for her
It was the roof's fault.
Bad, bad roof!!
Let’s be real regardless of the conditions she was getting beaten
That was her first Australian. Why she seemed so cold after winning?
Yes, why didn’t she flop around on the ground like a fish?
Had this stayed an outdoor match Chris would have been much more competitive
Definitely not.
I think it would have been a 61 61 rout.
Totally right. She started great. And if we think about how she nearly slaughtered Martina in the semis, it could have been her last hooray.
@teddyboy3120 You are talking about the slow ReboundAce hard court the AO had back then or what??
And what, a faster (!) court would have helped Evert and Seles????
Are you talking about the same Evert who lost 16 of 17 sets against Steffi from spring 1986 until 1989, in half of them winning less than 3 games? That Evert?
Do you just want to troll me, you clown?
For sure, Chris came out toe-to-toe with Graf, at 2-1 (first 3 games took 10 minutes, a little more) off the court for 1 hr 23 minute delay, that changed the course of the match. Chris was flat, Graf was at 6-1, 4-0, in a just less than 22 minutes after the delay. It's misleading when the commentator says, while be back after a short delay. It was quite a long delay, for them to get the roof closed.
A changing of the guards.
Sometimes I think had the roof not closed what would the result had been ! Sometimes 😊
I think the usual 62 61 for Steffi like so many outdoor matches in those years.
Key Biscayne 1987, Fed Cup 1987 and Wimbledon 1989 come to mind.
Steffi she's hot but you gotta Love Chris Evert's her strength ❤🔥🔥
Despite Graf is an amazing champion and a tennis legend, she can’t be considered as the Goat. I have great respect for her, but ignoring that the ignoble stabbing, horribly suffered by Seles, helped Graf tremendously in achieving her tennis records, even if unintentionally, it’s like ignoring the existence of the force of gravity on Earth.
Good grief, will the petty attempts to denigrate Graf's place in history never end? The only people who share your opinion are nutty Seles fans who exist apart from reality in a world of "what ifs"...some say Graf is the greatest, others say Martina, even more say Serena and some contrarians make some weird claim about Court. But each has an argument to be made, some better than others.
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The 1990-92 Graf Blackmail Scandal helped Seles far, far more than this stabbing helped Steffi. That stabbing actually cost Steffi the Wimbledon 1994 title! Whereas I don’t see which slam Steffi would not have won without the stabbing. She was better than Seles on every surface.
@@carrerau7138Lol cool story bro
Its a clash between two generations . Graf and Seles and a few others changed the women tennis in the late 80's. It happened again with Williams but this is a one sided story.
I really don't understand why you only take into account the period 1991-1992 and the whole record of GS finals.
1991/92 were Seles's peak years when she dominated and was #1.
In 1990 Seles was still far behind Steffi in the rankings.
And 1993 had just started with tournaments having been played mostly on slower surfaces (favoring Seles).
So 1991/92 are the years to look at.
Seles won 6 slams then, Steffi won 2 Wimbledons.
Seles had her best and her 2nd-best year ever.
Steffi only had her 9th-best and 11th-best year.
Steffi beat Seles in 3 of 4 matches.
BTW, please compare Steffi's two best years (1988/89) with Seles two best (1991/92).
Steffi was on a higher level.
It is fantastic that you keep erasing the australian open 93 which was on a Hard surface. And yes, Seles could not play the rest of the year in 1993 because she was STABBED.
@@javiernunez8113 The AO's ReboundAce from 1988 to 2008 was a slow surface with a very high ball-bounce. Perfect for Seles.
But Steffi was far better at the AO 94 than at the AO 93. Her results against Sanchez at the AO and against Navratilova one week later in Tokyo in both 1993 and 1994 are proof for that.
She would have crushed Seles anyway.
Seles could have played again at the USO 93.
She decided not to play, most probably because her dad had been diagnosed with cancer a few weeks before.
Hahaha. Yes, she was better because Seles WAS NOT PLAYING BECAUSE SHE WAS STABBED. My God. She would have crushed Seles... Hahaha. Pure hate for Seles. No reasoning.
@@javiernunez8113 You mean Steffi struggled against Sanchez and lost against Navratilova in winter 1993 because Seles was still on the tour but crushed both players in winter 1994 because Seles was absent after the stabbing?
So apparently Seles had voodoo powers?
I think it is more probable that your mom let you fall on your head as a toddler….
Chris like wanna cry here 😅
Evert calm down and take your time.
Здесь Стефания в какой то степени даже секси
Stefanie always was from age 17 on.
Chris Evert vs Chris Evert 2.0
Chris still had the game to make trouble for Steffi, as she showed in the second set of this match and the following year in Key Biscayne (which she should have won) but she was, at last, too old and uncertain mentally. The greatest thing about this crap match is hearing the lovely voice of the priceless Evonne Goolagong for the first bit. The only player who could ever match Chris in elegance and decorum, if not titles. Chris and Evonne MADE the explosion of the women’s tour in the 1970s-it sure as hell wasn’t Billie Jean King filling stadiums (aside from carnival matches).
In the 1989 Key Biscayne final Steffi was deep asleep in the first set.
From than on it was a routine win for Steffi over Evert.
Chris elegance and decorum lmao she was very shady and nasty
Two yummy ladies...🥰
i think this is when chris decited to quit. tennis had changed. tennis from the back had changed and she could not compete anymore. it's a matter of the changing of the game. tennis was becomming something different.
when your tennis has been growen with a kind of instrument (70' wooden rackets) there,s nothing to do. it's like playing soccer with a rugby ball. it's another game
Evert played for two more years.
@@carrerau7138 of course she did. I know. Her top career ended here. We know. She realized. She was not a top player anymore. Because the game had changed. Her face tells it all.
@@francescobattisti9926 At the end of 1988 (11 months after this AO 88 final) Chris Evert still was WTA #3 behind Steffi and Navratilova who simply were two better players.
So the facts don’t agree with your gut feeling.
Chris did say she lost interest in the game when she felt like she was no longer competing for #1. She had no interest in being a perennial bridesmaid in the Grand Slam semis.
I sure hated women's hair styles back in those days 😂😂
Many people will say the same in 30 years about women’s hairstyles of today.
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during eeeër prYmetYme !!!
Steffi's legs????
FIRST SLAM OF 1988…YEAR OF THE CHEATING SCANDAL FOR GRAF.
Still bitter, Yankee boi?
If one of the opponents in these matches were tennis players such as Aryna Sabalenka or Iga Swiatek, even if one of the top 100 female tennis players in the world ranking was the opponent, Steffi Graf or Chris Evert, what would the result be? God knows.
They have no chance against Steffi or even against 33 years old Chrissy with that older racquet. That's why it's tough to compare era. Give wooden racquet to Djokovic then his game would be quite different.
Give a 19-year-old Steffi one of today‘s rackets, let her practice with it for a few weeks.
I don‘t think she would lose even one match. Maybe now and then one on clay against Iga.
The rest - forget it.
@@asya4750 Who is that?
Wondeful tennis. Graf won more due to Seles' stabbing clearly.
What did she win due to this Stabbing? 🤔
Being Seles her main competitor, Graf could win more GS. She also recovered the number one position that Seles took away from her. Everyone knows this. Many pro players of that time are certain about this including Navratilova who admitted this fact.
@@javiernunez8113 Navratilova is American like Seles.
And still bitter that Steffi became the new Tennis Queen in 1987. And that almost no one today (not even in the USA!) thinks that she was greater than Steffi.
So her opinion has zero merit.
BTW, Steffi’s main competitor in the early 90s was Sabatini.
Sabatini was 6-2 win/loss in 1991/92 against Steffi, Seles was 1-3.
It is not relevant that both are americans. Not only Navratilova said it, many experts say it and it is obvious. Navratilova's opinion has all the merits, otherwise you know little about tennis. Btw, check your numbers, Sabatini could defeat Steffi in her 12th match. The 6-2 never existed. As regards GS finals, Seles won 3 out of four against Graf before the stabbing. Check your numbers please. Seles btw was number 1 in march 1991.
Check the record of GS finals not only the period 1991-1992.
These ladies were so weak compared to today. So slow
They were not weak. They just played with totally different rackets. I have the same racket then Chris and tried a new one. It's day and night!
Give those racquet to today's ladies, see what they can do. Give a 20 years old Steffi a modern & powerful racquet, believe me she would beat anybody on any surface.
You little clown… 😂😂
@@asya4750 lol😂😂 they are not eating anybody even in today's weak era. Hahaha. They are only one trick pony.
@@asya4750They would not have won even one slam in 1987-99.