FYI - A couple times you mentioned the unit's res when deciding whether or not to put Flare on their build. Just wanted to let you know that Flare boosts damage based on a percent of the FOE's res, not unit's res.
@@FEH The ability care is a little ambiguous for Veyle's Drive Scowl, but the check is always the enemy's Res+5 vs Veyle's even when Veyle isn't the one being attacked 25:37 so you don't need to worry about your tank having high Res as long as your Veyle meets the Res checks.
I saw Flare get suggested for this unit live in chat for this build and my only thought was “Sure, it scores. Hopefully they remember how the res check works.”
I've got Naga, Reginn, Thorr and (recently) Elimine merged up. A year ago I was laughing my way through astra season. Now trying to use 3 of them for max score is painful
25:40 small correction I mentioned before, the skill specifically reads it will always use Veyle's own Res for the stat comparison, even when it's not her in the combat, so ANYBODY can use the Scowl support regardless of their own Res stat, even a solid ground 7 +0 -Res Brave Dimitri
I think I would really love an up-to-date crash course of AR in 2023, it’s pretty intimidating to get into and a lot of more comprehensive overviews of the topic are very outdated
Saved the best Mythic for last 😎 I use Altina in every single strategy in AR (Vantage, Galeforce, Support). Altina needs investment, she only works for the Altina faithful
I like Fury 7 and Flow Desperation on Thorr. As long as she moves two spaces initially, she will be under 75% HP after triggering Galeforce from thr first combat and can easily get into WoM range after the second combat.
I think a big one you can do is Duo/Harmonic unit tier list. There are a lot of them many of which are still top tier to this day. Like Duo Thorr who basically runs the shitshow that is Summoner Duels. As well as some really overlooked ones like Duo Ymir who's Duo skill can be activated 3 times and can come in clutch. I think even for experienced players it's easy to forget about some of the really good Duos that they can probably use that they probably still have since the sheer quantity of them is huge. Winter Altina with a lane 6 catapult in AR for example is a combination that rarely ever fails. You replace a unit dueong times where they aren't needed anymore but it's easy to overlook the time where they can viably come back as their threats become less common. Harmonic Roy for example is nice to have in a dragon/beast bonus season for AR.
I like this style of video that exhaustively goes through different types of units. I only think it might've been a good idea to wait around for Plumeria's refine to come out since it's imminent, but with Veyle's release, it's understandable to release it now
Maybe I am understanding wrong, but iirc veyles drives always check HER res stat, not the allies' she is giving the drive to, so you do not need your tank to have high res for the effects to work.
At the start of this year, Fomortiis made me not wanna play AR period. Then when Heiðr was released she made it a lot more bearable and now with Veyle I actual enjoy AR....or at least Astra season 😅
One build I theorized with Elimine in player phase strategies is: Grandscratcher for cooldown support Return+ since smite staff doesn’t exist Still water 4 Sabotage or Snag 4 Ploy4 or Guidance4 Then aerobatics / flier formation depending on your needs or still water / phantom res for the res checks Snag can be used on fliers and if she is the one to get your initiator in then why not use it especially when Freyr would just negate sabotage penalties anyways.
I enjoyed this video quite a lot. Thanks for the amazing work. I’m a little annoyed at the state of Astra season with the recent additions. I feel there’s too overlapping and nerfing for me to consider what Mythic to invest into, let alone how to build them. I really enjoyed running Elimine + Naga as my Astra core Mythic. They complemented each other quite well by giving my units spectrum visible buffs, dragon effectiveness, GFU on PP, drive buffs, and drive DR. I could build Naga to soak shrines away from my tanks while allowing them to move around with Guidance, while Elimine was focused on shutting down the most annoying threats in the enemy team. However, that combo is not working anymore. Freyr was a big middle finger to Elimine, who was already struggling due to the Res creep Arval was able to bring. Then Vayle came with Drive DR + Scowl to kick her when she was down, essentially replacing her in all my teams. She can still be used as a healer or Tannenbaton support, but she is too far away from a refine to be excited about pulling merges for her. It is clear by now that IS wants me to replace Elimine with someone else. Vayle seems like the obvious choice. However, she doesn’t work as well with Naga as the healer did. Her visible buffs overlap and so does her blessing. She is also an infantry unit, which makes running tactics skills difficult when omnitanking. Plumeria was the other option I was considering to replace Elimine with, as that would allow me to keep the same blessings and similar team structure, and while I dislike running dancers as Rockslide Dance was making me reconsider. However, her remix had to give the same GFU that Naga does. Hidr is the only unit in the game I’m missing, so I can’t really talk about her. She seems like a PP support to me though, and I only run EP strategies in AR. Altina is a great EP unit…. for SD. In AR she can be nice to have as a secondary tank, but she struggles with the same stuff my core tanks struggle, while not making them stronger. I rather run a support over her. Seidr is kinda clunky. While she can help tanking by locking a specific threat, that can backfire by activating dancer traps. I’m also guilty of losing matches because Sidr locked the last unit standing, preventing me to kill them on EP. Not a fan of her at all. And Ashera, Thorr and Reginn have no unique support, which makes them generic are bonus season Mythics instead of core Mythics. Maybe Plumeria’s remix will push me into switching to Vayle + her, but I’m not looking forward to invest that much on merges. tdlr: screw you Freyr!
15:28 You missed something with Naga. Divine Breath also grants +3 atk/spd/def/res to any ally that is a dragon or has dragon effectiveness (which she so gracefully gives out with Divine Fang) in a 4 space range. You also missed her own dragon effectiveness but thats neither here nor there. I think the 4 range drive is pretty important because its actually not half bad for both tanking and player phasing. Ive used naga in a tank team just to give my tank dragon effectiveness on the turn they tank and then i just sit her back and my tank gets that extra little boost. Its really underrated when technically she's already giving your tanks +5 HP and Def from her mythic blessing and +6 atk and spd if you want to count visible buffs from Divine Fang. A build I like to run on her is Near Trace in B and Odd Tempest in S. Shes really nice for repoing a player phase unit out of the danger zone on turn 1 and having canto to get herself to safety too.
Heidr is by far my favorite unit released this year (I'll even be trying to +10 her!), I just love how she plays. I really hope we get a Def/Res version of either Oath 4 or Pledge since those would play so well with the tools she already has, and in the case of Pledge, it would allow her to trigger Flare twice in combats where she quads, which doesn't sound unlikely considering how tanky some of the current Far Saves are. I had to spark to get my first copy, but I've never regretted it.
These types of videos are really nice for newer players who aren't familiar with optimal skill sets for older units. As a side note, Veyle + Summer Fjorm is an absolutely disgusting combo. I know omnitanks have been suffering, but this combo can live through the scariest AR-D nukes with triangle attack as long as you have the speed to avoid the double which is easy enough.
I have +10 Thorr and this season I’ve had to replace her C skill with spur spd cus Halloween flayn is already giving +1 CD to rearmed Robin who already has that effect on A slot Really hoping that her C skill gets updated with something crazy like tempo
my brain left the building for that moment. i pinned an earlier comment for clarity. you are correct. flare is not based on the units res. it's based on the foe's.
@@FEH haha it's okay, I knew I wasn't going to be the only one to point it out since I thought these were scripted kinda videos it would be thoroughly researched, but even the greatest make mistakes
For seidrs end turn effect, you could just go with her prf skill icon, the safety fence or use the icon that gets used in AR for the 7th slot unit. Description can be a simple "Ends foes turn" with X condition, since that is what her skill does.
The biggest thing is special spiral in his B. He does a lot of wacky things with that in place. I’d probably give him far save, but he’s an amazing near save. The a skill would depend on which you pick. Fierce stance is great for far. Close defense for near.
For Thórr's section around 4:00, you seem to have the wrong icon for her worldbreaker skill. I think that's Elemine's C skill. And I didn't see or hear you mention Naga's support effect in her weapon. She also gives an omni +3 to allies under certain conditions, I think up to 4 spaces away. It's not a ton of stats, but it's atill nice to have. If she has the ward dragon sacred seal, she's a nice unit for a far save dragon unit.
Yes, I did like this video, and as a low spender who's trying to save for Mythics and Legendary heroes in order to reach those upper echelons, this kind of video helps me put into perspective what kind of units I'm trying to merge and what could I use them for once I'm finally done merging them. Thank you so much for this video and all the hard work.
Please do a video like this one for every mythic blessing! you could also put some of the best teammates and templates for every defense mythic on the dark and anima vids, I know thats probably a lot of work but I would honestly love to see those kinds of vids, keep up the good work! I love your channel!
Great video! I’d love to see more of these in the future if you’re able to make them. If you want to add anything, maybe a couple sentences on what you think would make a unit better if they’re due for a refine?
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FYI - A couple times you mentioned the unit's res when deciding whether or not to put Flare on their build. Just wanted to let you know that Flare boosts damage based on a percent of the FOE's res, not unit's res.
this. I can’t say how often I hear people recommend flare for high res units. it don’t work like that :)
My brain took a vacation for some reason. You are 💯 correct.
@@FEH The ability care is a little ambiguous for Veyle's Drive Scowl, but the check is always the enemy's Res+5 vs Veyle's even when Veyle isn't the one being attacked 25:37 so you don't need to worry about your tank having high Res as long as your Veyle meets the Res checks.
Ah that makes sense why my B!Lysithea took down Veyle with Flare at 80% hp at the hardest difficulty at her mythic battle
I saw Flare get suggested for this unit live in chat for this build and my only thought was “Sure, it scores. Hopefully they remember how the res check works.”
this type of video is really good in a sense. Since more often than not the player doesnt pick their mythics, the mythics pick the player
I've got Naga, Reginn, Thorr and (recently) Elimine merged up. A year ago I was laughing my way through astra season. Now trying to use 3 of them for max score is painful
My Veyle and B!Dimitri are now Best Friends Forever
Do I see an S-classing in the future? ❤
25:40 small correction I mentioned before, the skill specifically reads it will always use Veyle's own Res for the stat comparison, even when it's not her in the combat, so ANYBODY can use the Scowl support regardless of their own Res stat, even a solid ground 7 +0 -Res Brave Dimitri
What are your favorite astra season builds?
Something to note about Thorr is the omni lull is dependent on her being solo, so WoM4 allowing 2 space warping is HUGE for capitalizing on that
I think I would really love an up-to-date crash course of AR in 2023, it’s pretty intimidating to get into and a lot of more comprehensive overviews of the topic are very outdated
I love this type of content. Maybe once a year you revist all mythical and do the same thing as you did here.
I’d like to do it after every new legendary/ mythic, but that might be overkill. We’ll have to see how this one is received.
I really like this idea. Maybe do it Yearly or every 6 months bc meta changes so fast
My perfect Astra offense:
-4 different iterations of my Bridal Tiki/ Winter Marth Save Ball
-Lynjaforce
✅🫡
Loving the recent flux of longer form more analysis type content. I've been itching to get some discussion content from feh.
Well you found the right channel, Joel is a chronic nerd analyst.
Saved the best Mythic for last 😎 I use Altina in every single strategy in AR (Vantage, Galeforce, Support). Altina needs investment, she only works for the Altina faithful
I originally was going to show your SD clear with her, but I ran out of time 😞
@@FEH no worries. I'm sure this video took a massive amount of time to make
I like Fury 7 and Flow Desperation on Thorr. As long as she moves two spaces initially, she will be under 75% HP after triggering Galeforce from thr first combat and can easily get into WoM range after the second combat.
I think a big one you can do is Duo/Harmonic unit tier list. There are a lot of them many of which are still top tier to this day. Like Duo Thorr who basically runs the shitshow that is Summoner Duels. As well as some really overlooked ones like Duo Ymir who's Duo skill can be activated 3 times and can come in clutch.
I think even for experienced players it's easy to forget about some of the really good Duos that they can probably use that they probably still have since the sheer quantity of them is huge. Winter Altina with a lane 6 catapult in AR for example is a combination that rarely ever fails. You replace a unit dueong times where they aren't needed anymore but it's easy to overlook the time where they can viably come back as their threats become less common. Harmonic Roy for example is nice to have in a dragon/beast bonus season for AR.
Each time you mention Flare you mention the units Res, is it not based off of Foe's Res entirely?
you are correct. i'm not sure where i placed my brain at that moment, but it was not in my head.
Im curious though, would this change your opinion on it with Heidr and if so how much?
I fear anyone that runs Veyle for scowl support and Kaden for guard support with their savior/omnitank
I like this style of video that exhaustively goes through different types of units. I only think it might've been a good idea to wait around for Plumeria's refine to come out since it's imminent, but with Veyle's release, it's understandable to release it now
Maybe I am understanding wrong, but iirc veyles drives always check HER res stat, not the allies' she is giving the drive to, so you do not need your tank to have high res for the effects to work.
Awesome video! Would love to see you do an updated arena vid one day 👁️
At the start of this year, Fomortiis made me not wanna play AR period.
Then when Heiðr was released she made it a lot more bearable and now with Veyle I actual enjoy AR....or at least Astra season 😅
i'm glad to hear it. fomo made me want to rage quit as well, but that was because of a 15.5% pity rate.
One build I theorized with Elimine in player phase strategies is:
Grandscratcher for cooldown support
Return+ since smite staff doesn’t exist
Still water 4
Sabotage or Snag 4
Ploy4 or Guidance4
Then aerobatics / flier formation depending on your needs or still water / phantom res for the res checks
Snag can be used on fliers and if she is the one to get your initiator in then why not use it especially when Freyr would just negate sabotage penalties anyways.
I enjoyed this video quite a lot. Thanks for the amazing work.
I’m a little annoyed at the state of Astra season with the recent additions. I feel there’s too overlapping and nerfing for me to consider what Mythic to invest into, let alone how to build them.
I really enjoyed running Elimine + Naga as my Astra core Mythic. They complemented each other quite well by giving my units spectrum visible buffs, dragon effectiveness, GFU on PP, drive buffs, and drive DR. I could build Naga to soak shrines away from my tanks while allowing them to move around with Guidance, while Elimine was focused on shutting down the most annoying threats in the enemy team.
However, that combo is not working anymore. Freyr was a big middle finger to Elimine, who was already struggling due to the Res creep Arval was able to bring. Then Vayle came with Drive DR + Scowl to kick her when she was down, essentially replacing her in all my teams. She can still be used as a healer or Tannenbaton support, but she is too far away from a refine to be excited about pulling merges for her.
It is clear by now that IS wants me to replace Elimine with someone else.
Vayle seems like the obvious choice. However, she doesn’t work as well with Naga as the healer did. Her visible buffs overlap and so does her blessing. She is also an infantry unit, which makes running tactics skills difficult when omnitanking.
Plumeria was the other option I was considering to replace Elimine with, as that would allow me to keep the same blessings and similar team structure, and while I dislike running dancers as Rockslide Dance was making me reconsider. However, her remix had to give the same GFU that Naga does.
Hidr is the only unit in the game I’m missing, so I can’t really talk about her. She seems like a PP support to me though, and I only run EP strategies in AR.
Altina is a great EP unit…. for SD. In AR she can be nice to have as a secondary tank, but she struggles with the same stuff my core tanks struggle, while not making them stronger. I rather run a support over her.
Seidr is kinda clunky. While she can help tanking by locking a specific threat, that can backfire by activating dancer traps. I’m also guilty of losing matches because Sidr locked the last unit standing, preventing me to kill them on EP. Not a fan of her at all.
And Ashera, Thorr and Reginn have no unique support, which makes them generic are bonus season Mythics instead of core Mythics.
Maybe Plumeria’s remix will push me into switching to Vayle + her, but I’m not looking forward to invest that much on merges.
tdlr: screw you Freyr!
15:28 You missed something with Naga. Divine Breath also grants +3 atk/spd/def/res to any ally that is a dragon or has dragon effectiveness (which she so gracefully gives out with Divine Fang) in a 4 space range. You also missed her own dragon effectiveness but thats neither here nor there. I think the 4 range drive is pretty important because its actually not half bad for both tanking and player phasing. Ive used naga in a tank team just to give my tank dragon effectiveness on the turn they tank and then i just sit her back and my tank gets that extra little boost. Its really underrated when technically she's already giving your tanks +5 HP and Def from her mythic blessing and +6 atk and spd if you want to count visible buffs from Divine Fang.
A build I like to run on her is Near Trace in B and Odd Tempest in S. Shes really nice for repoing a player phase unit out of the danger zone on turn 1 and having canto to get herself to safety too.
Heidr is by far my favorite unit released this year (I'll even be trying to +10 her!), I just love how she plays. I really hope we get a Def/Res version of either Oath 4 or Pledge since those would play so well with the tools she already has, and in the case of Pledge, it would allow her to trigger Flare twice in combats where she quads, which doesn't sound unlikely considering how tanky some of the current Far Saves are. I had to spark to get my first copy, but I've never regretted it.
These types of videos are really nice for newer players who aren't familiar with optimal skill sets for older units. As a side note, Veyle + Summer Fjorm is an absolutely disgusting combo. I know omnitanks have been suffering, but this combo can live through the scariest AR-D nukes with triangle attack as long as you have the speed to avoid the double which is easy enough.
I have +10 Thorr and this season I’ve had to replace her C skill with spur spd cus Halloween flayn is already giving +1 CD to rearmed Robin who already has that effect on A slot
Really hoping that her C skill gets updated with something crazy like tempo
''Heidr is good, especially when you see Harrowing-''
You need to get some sleep man.
I believe seidr is still my best astra mythic, her +atk buff and if you're great at using her her future focused is insane!
Really enjoyed the video! Would like too see the same format maybe with some example team with the other mythics!
24:42 dont you just hate it when youre just vibing in elyos and suddenly youre a feh oc?
great video as always!
Banger video yet again. My Seidr now has desperation 4 so that’s neat.
flare is not iceberg, it's luna
my brain left the building for that moment. i pinned an earlier comment for clarity. you are correct. flare is not based on the units res. it's based on the foe's.
@@FEH haha it's okay, I knew I wasn't going to be the only one to point it out
since I thought these were scripted kinda videos it would be thoroughly researched, but even the greatest make mistakes
Hype for this video!
For seidrs end turn effect, you could just go with her prf skill icon, the safety fence or use the icon that gets used in AR for the 7th slot unit.
Description can be a simple "Ends foes turn" with X condition, since that is what her skill does.
Where were you when I was making these assets!!! That’s a much better idea.
what would a max invest N!zelgius build look like optimally? i +10'd him and want to build correctly
The biggest thing is special spiral in his B. He does a lot of wacky things with that in place. I’d probably give him far save, but he’s an amazing near save. The a skill would depend on which you pick. Fierce stance is great for far. Close defense for near.
@@FEH tysm :) much appreciated
For Thórr's section around 4:00, you seem to have the wrong icon for her worldbreaker skill. I think that's Elemine's C skill. And I didn't see or hear you mention Naga's support effect in her weapon. She also gives an omni +3 to allies under certain conditions, I think up to 4 spaces away. It's not a ton of stats, but it's atill nice to have. If she has the ward dragon sacred seal, she's a nice unit for a far save dragon unit.
Yes, I did like this video, and as a low spender who's trying to save for Mythics and Legendary heroes in order to reach those upper echelons, this kind of video helps me put into perspective what kind of units I'm trying to merge and what could I use them for once I'm finally done merging them. Thank you so much for this video and all the hard work.
Please do a video like this one for every mythic blessing! you could also put some of the best teammates and templates for every defense mythic on the dark and anima vids, I know thats probably a lot of work but I would honestly love to see those kinds of vids, keep up the good work! I love your channel!
Love the bulls
4:55 here we briefly see and hear Loki give herself away, having replaced Joel so she could have the privilege of talking about Thorr herself.
An aoe Seidr seems really fun and useful in some key areas, but how do you go about charging that special?
Bets part of this video was Joel pronouncing Otr as "Odor". So fitting 😂
Great video! I’d love to see more of these in the future if you’re able to make them. If you want to add anything, maybe a couple sentences on what you think would make a unit better if they’re due for a refine?