Is Eurostar Business Premier Worth It? London to Paris Train Class Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- We've hopped on Eurostar in the past on races to Brussels, Amsterdam and Paris, but we've never compared any of its classes... until now! This time around, Nicky and Liam venture from London to Paris in Business Premier and Standard to help you decide whether or not Business Premier is worth it for you!
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00:00 - Intro
00:41 - Check In
02:06 - Business Premier Lounge
03:27 - Boarding
04:31 - Seat: Business Premier
05:18 - Seat: Standard
07:03 - Offerings & Meal Service
09:38 - Final Thoughts
Is Eurostar Business Premier Worth It? London to Paris Train Class Comparison
I think the best value for money is probably Standard Premier. You get the same seats as Business Premier, free drinks, and a light cold snack meal with a dessert and tea/coffee too. You don’t get the lounge but considering it’s usually only about £30-£40 more than standard, it’s worth it for the better seats and free food/drinks.
I agree that Standard Premier is what they should have compared Standard with. It is still somewhat affordable, and is good if you need a larger/more comfortable seat. The food in that class doesn't matter that much, but I guess is still worth talking about. Business Premier is for the corporate-types who are having their tickets paid for. It is an insane waste of money for the general traveler, so who even cares about it.
fully agree
I agree completely. I just took the Eurostar to and from Amsterdam and I appreciated having the table and the lovely food/drink. The lounge looked nice but not for an extra 80 or so quid.
I too would have liked to see a comparison between Standard Premier and Business Premier, which is usually the choices I’m choosing between.
@@geoffreyschultz8515 Take away the fancy food and the lounge, and you have that comparison.
It would have been nice to know how much Liam spent in food and drink, to check how much he really saved once everything was paid for.
Cafe Metropole’s menu says the gin and tonic plus coconut lentil daal was a bit under £15, plus < £4 for the iced coffee at The Station Pantry; let’s round up and call it £19. The difference between the two classes ranges from £130 to £160 on random trains next week. So Liam saved £110-140 (USD 140-175) in Standard on a two hour train ride.
Alternatively, Nicky spent an extra £110-140 for shorter queue, lounge access, and better seat+meal on a two hour train ride.
Price for business premium and standard tickets
I think standard fare is expensive
I know that Kylie Minogue travels between London - Paris on Eurostar, so if it’s good enough for Kylie, it’s good enough for me, as Kylie is the epitome of class and sophistication - and by the way, these two lovely young lads are very handsome looking too 😍😍😍
um bom questionamento, até porque custos (quanto custou) será sempre muito importante, para termos uma boa administração................................ furtado sul do Brasil
Video is definitely incomplete without a complete cost breakdown of the THREE types of class and the cost of food and drink in standard class
The airport lounge, the quick security, the comfy seat and the food did provide value for the extra money. But the standard offerings were quite OK, and as Nicky pointed out, one could save the money and have a fine dining experience in Paris.
penso, que Paris, sempre será o sonho de cada viajante devido a : sua gastronomia e pontos turísticos..
Would love to see the comparison of all 3 classes, including Standard premier, whichhas the more comfortable seats, also the food option with a different menu.
Did anyone notice the bird strike on the front of the train with the feathers sticking out? 😂
Always love watching these two together! Awesome vid as usual lads. 🇦🇺👏
I’m happy you’re back on the channel. Especially Liam 😊
I wish we had a high speed rail tunnel between Holyhead and Dublin, underneath the Irish Sea, as this is the oldest trading route on these islands dating back to Roman Times - aside from air travel, every time a ferry is placed on any Irish Sea routes, including from Liverpool to Dublin or Pembroke/Fishguard to Rosslare, it fills up rapidly, so there is a clear demand for this - hopefully when HS2 gets going and more lines are opened across the North of England to connect the WCML and the ECML, connecting the Irish Sea to the North Sea, this could change in the next few years, as Dublin continues to expand - I have extended family in Rural Ireland near Dublin but I’ve lived in Manchester for 21 years and I still hold an Irish passport
Yay! Liam & Nicky are back!! Woo Hoo! I loved the video especially with L & N back on this channel and I cannot wait to try the Eurostar Train service all the way from London 🇬🇧 to Paris 🇫🇷 someday! 🎉🎉 I especially love high speed trains and going under the ocean on a train of all things is awesome!! 😁 I cannot wait someday to try the Eurostar Business Premier class hopefully though, not Standard “Economy” Class sorry Liam! 😂
Cheers Mates! 🥂
I travel between London and Amsterdam a few times a year, always solo and in standard. My impressions are that the waiting area at St Pancras was built almost a decade ago and isn't fit for the amount of passengers now. There are often queues at the two food places - so much easier (and cheaper) to buy something outside and bring it in with you (which is allowed). For standard seats, the Eurostar app is great: you can see what seats / carriages are free and change to those a few hours before the train departure time and nab a seat to yourself.
Great tip about app and changing seats...
NICKY AND LIAM ARE BACK? YAY! My favourite well travelled chaotic comedy duo 😂
It was good to see Nicky & Liam together again, but it was a bit disappointing that there wasn't a pluffy pillow in sight, even in business 😢
What happened to Jean?
Liam 😍
@@jackfeldman3916 he left tpg
We need Jean badk
Nice comparison! You boys do seem to have fun doing this.
Great video guys ❤
Great video per usual!
“I’m not drinking cause I’m working.” “One Gin & Tonic please”
This past March we did business premier in the opposite direction, Paris to London. It was lovely. A bit pricier than a flight, but just barely and well worth it in my opinion. Hope one day to ride the Eurostar again! Thanks for the review.
A couple of weeks ago I walked past a man on my street in London and could not for the life of me work out where I'd seen him before. Only now do I realise it was none other than NICKY! Small world. Keep up the great work guys :) p.s. I hope it was him and not just a doppelganger because then this story isn't so great lol
Nicky’s contribution to Cold Open deserves an award.
Also the seats have a bit that flips up to give your legs more support/more seat space (in all classes) but most people don't know about it:)
Sode by side discussion appreciated!
The food in Business Premier isn't "free", it's more like "pre-paid" (and for possibly more food than you might've actually needed). I really wish they had compared Standard to Standard Premier, because that's the comparison I'm currently trying to make.
Also, were there no full tables in business class like in standard? What about where the double seats were located?
There are tables in business for 4 seats and 2 seats. And also 2 and 1 seat options with no tables
One of the first videos from this channel was a race to Paris so I feel like I’ve come full circle.
would love to see the actual numbers. economy ticket plus the price of the food at the station and on the train vs the business class tix that included the food and drinks.
They normally do a price breakdown, surprised they didn't!
Standard class can range from anything between £40 and £180. Business Premier is a fixed price at £325.
As a previous frequent traveler, standard premium is the way to go; it's exactly the same seat and layout as Business premium but without the fancy meal, just a basic one.
They used to run from Ebbsfleet meaning you didn't need to haul yourself into London but they've now closed that.. big shame.
The original trains were quite noisy and shakey, but the newer ones less so.
Price wise, they are twice the cost of flights, so still a way to go for value for money...
Now add in cost to get to and from the airport. And the time. And the more generally miserable airport / airplane experience (apart from the lounge area which agree with you about but then you can get there much later than in an airport).
Hi, I am a solo female traveler planning on going to London in the next year or so. I would love to see a video on how to enjoy a pub solo but for someone that does not drink alcohol. If that is even possible.
We were stuck for 3 hours on our return to London. Thank goodness for premier. We made friends and the wine kept flowing.
Really good video's, enjoyable watch... can I ask what cameras do you use. cheers
Interesting I am going from my local airport to Amsterdam then getting the eurostar to London. Thanks for the video 📹
Very cool and nice video!
For people with a status at a member of the Railteam Alliance, the access to the Eurostar Lounges is possible without a Business Premier ticket. German BahnCard 100 (status level gold or platin) gives access for example.
I simply love every video you two are in, and this time you two were reviewing a service I’m considering taking (BUD-VIE-London by train!!)!! But…who arrived first this time?? 🤔🤔🤔😉😎
It’s beautiful building ❤❤❤❤ thanks . I love to travel on euro star I never done it 😊
Always enjoy these guys' videos. As many others have said, a much better comparison would have been Standard vs Standard Premier....or SP versus Business (or all three). SP seems to be the best deal if you can get it at a lower price especially the single seat option for solo travellers. The food/drink in Business is "complementary" not "free" i.e. it's included in the ticket price.
An additional note is that the Business ticket is fully refundable and offers free exchanges.
Standard and Standard Premier are non refundable and you have to pay to exchange if it's within 7 days of travel.
In Business Premier how many times do they come around for drinks? Can you get 3 drinks if you want? Thx!! Great video!
Took Eurostar to Brussels last February and I had a chance to choose my seat as well after I paid for it. :) Such a shame I didn't try to go to the restaurant but I will definitely go next. time
Hi love your vids
Gotta be thankful of my country's train service now. Especially the restaurant car.
Overall top class video lads!! I do think it’s a real shame that neither of you spoke about or mention Standard Premier in this video and frankly should have done considering you were doing a classes comparison of Eurostar; to be honest Ben or someone else should have tagged along and do Standard Premier because it does differ slightly from Business Premier in terms of the meal size being quite a bit smaller and not having the lounge access. It is effectively the 1st class product aimed at leisure travellers who can afford the extra £30/£40 upgrade however sometimes it can be as cheap as £10 to upgrade. But I can see and appreciate why you lads went with this format I.e it gives the audience a more clear differential between the economy option and the upper class option.
I'm curious about the make and model of each of their camera's they are using and the hand held stand - any ideas? @pointsguy? Thx
It would be incredibly helpful to know what day of the week this video was filmed.
Is that bird feathers on the front of that train? Poor thing. Great video as always lads.
Eurostar is the best service high speed wise in Europe . I look forward to seeing how the merger with Thalys will follow. Never been disappointed by Eurostar
Not sure about that….. should try Freccia Rossa of Italy. Their executive class which is also cheaper offer all you can eat/drink from their menu. They also made a video on this channel.
So you are unaware of the going down since 2019. It's simply a disaster, even more since the merger.
Glad I booked the quad seats in Standard. Only paid $403 for 4 passengers round trip from/to Paris.
3:43 is that a dead bird sticking out of the front of the train?
Liam's a braver man than me - ordering a curry while wearing a pristine white t-shirt 😬
if your getting a connection between to train stations ie arriving at 0715 from glasgow - Eurostar leaves at 0815 what time do need to be there before gate closing?
Is the Standard Premier still on offer? I’ve done that it and it was a good compromise, the same seat as Business Premier, a light meal service, but no priority boarding, and about 1/2 the price of Business Premier (at least when I did it pre-pandemic).
If I catch the 6am train, how’s the queue to check in if on standard economy? If I buy the premier ticket, will the lounge be opened and from what time?
You guys should compare the low cost airlines such as easy jet,Ryanair and jet2 compare price seat comfort service all of that
Somebody should draw up a scorecard of how many times Nicky gets a nicer seat than Liam
373 is a legend
Splendid Monocle tote, dear boy
Nice one guys please can you review LOT polish airlines 737 max 8 and bulgaria air in 2 classes Liam in business class and nicky is in economy
Funny to see that the new Eurostar is based on the German ICE 3 whereas the old Eurostar was based on the French TGV, but the Eurostar does not even go to Germany.
I’ve been in standard premier on the Eurostar it was fantastic full meal and drinks service separate cabin looks identical no lounge access how ever.
Free lounge access with Amex platinum card. No guests.
One thing that probably should be adressed on all classes is the woeful wifi. On ICEs,TGVs and UK trains I can connect to the VPN and get work done, even when speeding through the countryside. The Eurostar is hopeless. I don't know if it's the equipment on train, or the lack of antennae along the line, but IMO it needs upgrading to match what the customer is used to on other operators. Especially if they want to encourage more business travellers.
The holding pen at St Pancras is a terrible experience and really puts me off using the service again especially living up in Northern England. No wonder economy seating felt good if you had a 4 seat table to yourself, the airline seat legroom room is not great but ok for journey length.
Eurostar is both good and bad for what it offers. Its great advantage is that it operates city centre to city centre, so there's no additional travel from out-of-town airports; you're there as soon as you arrive. The departure lounge at St. Pancras can sometimes feel claustrophobic as it is not big enough. At busy times there are nowhere near enough seats. You also have to compare its cost with that of other forms of transport. While I would love to keep my carbon footprint to an absolute minimum, I know that the cost of air travel is much cheaper. For example, I travelled on Eurostar/TGV to Marseille last year. For the amount I paid, I could have taken the same journey for my partner and me three times by air. Much of the cost of travelling to France by train is the Eurostar travel. We were in Toulouse earlier this year and wished to take a train ride to Carcassonne, some 58 miles. The cost for the two of us (we are both seniors) was two euros. Imagine getting that sort of deal in the UK. Finally, well done guys for producing such a polished account of your journey.
Are those feathers sticking out of the nose cone at 3:42?
You'd mentioned another class, an elevated kind of Standard, that shared the same queue. Perhaps review that at some point?
Eurostar Standard Premier is lovely. You get the same seat that Nicky was in in Business Premier, but with a "light meal" instead of what you get in business, and no priority boarding as you mention.
@@Adsy125 Thanks!
Anyone else notice the dead bird lodged in the front of the train 😂
You guys should try Oman Air
@3:41 are those bird feather at the front of the train?!
Oh yeah
For my sanity and since I can afford it, you’ll find me in Business Premier. Age does come with some perks 😉👍🏻🤣
I hope Liam gets to try out a pint in a video.
Is it possible to upgrade to a different class? I didn't see an option like that on the app. I have a Standard Premier ticket from London to Amsterdam in January. I wouldn't mind testing out that Business Premier seat!
there is no difference in seat comfort between Business Premier and Standard Premier, there is only a difference in service.
@@marcd6897 Thanks. That wasn't my question though.
istr the only way to upgrade is to pay the difference in the ticket you have and that of the business premier - be warned though business prem to asmsterdam is around £250 each way they don't have advance fares like the other classes.
You want to test out the same seat then? @@TheRailwayDrone
Sorry Nicky time for you to go on an economy run you always get the premium.
Sorry Liam the dead bird in the front of the train not the best start.
Now as its a train video the big question.
Can you travel facing backwards or direction of travel?
I miss what was "Leisure Premier" from like a decade ago, Business Premier seat and food service, but without the lounge access (personally don't need it most of the time)
That still exists Jonathan but just in the rebranded name of Standard Premier, I think it’s a real shame they didn’t mention this in the video and frankly they should have done considering they were doing a class comparison of Eurostar; to be honest they should have had Ben or someone else tag along and do Standard Premier because it does differ slightly from Business Premier.
@@abakedslayermcgiles2703 yeah, looked on the Eurostar website and I see the product is "back", but rebranded... there was a while where it wasn't available at all... Edit: Also back in the day of Leisure Premier, it was the same (AFAIK) meal service as Business Premier... IMNSHO there still a space for old Leisure Premier market wise... but Eurostar will do what Eurostar will do I guess
no one going to talk about the bird at 3:41 hahaha
How many channels do you have?? There is another one with same names but seems to be based in USA. I was confused since I saw one of your video there. Is it you or copycat? 😂
The departure lounges at St Pancras and the Gare du Nord are simply not big enough. Living in SW Kent, we always used to travel from Ashford International but now have to travel into London to get Eurostar (adding 1h 30min to the overall journey). Last time we were there last September it was horrendous in the departure lounge, worse than Gatwick. Put us off travelling by Eurostar in future. Business Premier is definitely not worth the considerable extra cost. As others have said, Standard Premier is the best compromise.
how about standard prem vis business prem
If you are travling as a family, Then Standerd is the best option
I'm missing 4K video resolution -_-
5:58 the lady behind is like wtf hahaha
Rip the bird at 3:41
A true comparison would have maybe included a price for each experience
All in the video 🤓😉
Standard premiere is the way to go ...
Ironically amex platinum and standard premier makes the most sense for frequent business travel.
8:45 It looks like a Ghoogni.
DEFINITELY not a bucket of sick.
Standard class is OK if you don't have to travel near a group of kids or high school students : then you'll not enjoy even 10 seconds of silence between London and Paris 😁. Best choice for me is Standard Premier, with more legroom. Business Premier is a bit overpriced.
Once I was on an evening Eurostar from Brussels to London, with my mum in standard class. Silence for the whole journey, except the odd extremely hushed conversation.
Absolutely worth an extra 100-150 pounds
I would always go on the cheaper seats as its only a 2 hour 17 minute journey and it's not worth paying for the business seats ,also get a Samsung phone which has a better battery than the iPhone so you don't need to charge it on the train ,bring your own food or snacks on the train and as I said it's only 2 hours 17minutes so you don't need any food ,good video but the cheaper seats for me all the way it's a none brainer,all the quick security stuff is a con as the train can't go until the other passengers get on and you only wait for a xtra 10 minutes which isn't a big deal.
8:26 the women behind you is trying so hard to stare at you without you noticing then at 8:32 you can see the person sitting next to her looking at you but then at 8:35 she gave up trying to be sly and is straight up judging you hard AF what a wild ride it was like a B plot for the entire vlog 🤣
Class 373 is better then 374
At 4:42, is someone burping in the background? lol
bruh it’s the exact same apart for the flod
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anyone spot the dead pigeon on the train at 3:42 ?!
Not free. Built into the price.
I think it would be worth EITHER spot to be able to pop into Paris for an unbelievable lunch experience, a night out in the city then pop back home.. Lining in the States is wonderful and free and all that, love my guns and all, but man I would really enjoy spending a year across the Pond to see life in Europe. One day maybe.
We did Eurostar last year economy for 4 of us. The table you are sat at sits 4 nicely to go to Paris.
This year, we booked flights as there are 5. Plus, Eurostar does not release seats until 3 months before.
Our flights cost £1500. Eurostar would have been £2,000!
Return standard tickets are 80£pp… That’s 400 total… How on earth would Eurostar have cost 2K?
@@mathieudelvauxI wanted to ask the same!
Premier is so expensive
You have a Smoking Room in the Lounge ?
Am I the only one who thinks he looks like Jamie Tartt?
If it saves having to go for a shit in at St Pancras International's horrible horrible toilets after checking in, I'd be willing to consider business premier..
Have you considered shitting at home?
Why do people go to a boarding area, rail or gate and seat. Are you going not going to sit for hours when you get on board. Rail and airports need to put in a standing area with a rails to put you feet on. I don't like seating unless I gave to.
10 years ago, I used to do London to Paris on a fortnightly, if not monthly basis and we'd always travel Business Premier, due to our preferential rates arranged through our business travel agent. However, the standard of product on offer has declined significantly in the subsequent years, not helped by Covid and the reduction in face to face meetings. Gone are the days of the hot food menu being served, supposedly by Raymond Blanc and bottomless drinks on the service in the lounge. There was a sweet spot however, in about 2017, about the time when Gare Du Nord had refurbished their business class lounge to be towards the front of the station concourse... The bartender used to make a mean mojito! Being half cut by the time you reached Frethun was the way to go! I think back then, we were charged £258 for a return trip on business premier, which meant we also accrued our carte blanche points pretty rapidly!