Hopefully, something comes along this year but listening to the Lumix Live videos I kind of get the feeling that nothing is coming outside of the S9 release.
I think like many that these releases are made to comply with European regulations (USB-C in particular). They will do this for any equipment they want to be able to continue to sell on the European market. The entry-level, lightweight and high-performance camera with PDAF exists : it is the OM System OM5. Will they make an equivalent body?
Yes, it is just a refresh rather than a significant update. I do hope they will release a new compact MFT camera but it seems more and more unlikely as time goes by.
it actually looks to me like the size i want. but, im not going backwards on pdaf. richard wong said the bad part that i agree with is this might be the last m43 camera we see for a while or forever. i think that's true, though i still think they need to do a g100ii due to how well it sells.
Yeah, it's not an upgrade camera in my opinion. I think Panasonic kind of dropped the ball by not understanding how much demand was there for a smaller MFT body with PDAF. By the time they manage to get something to market (if they ever do), that demand will have dwindled significantly.
@@stevelitton they seem to have overestimated how much they were going to sell of that old sensor. i wonder if they couldn't have come up with something more creative to get rid of the old parts. like a project with logitech on an advanced webcam. or a bgh2 at a decent price. the thing that hurts here is why would they give us an entry pdaf m43 camera with this thing sitting out there at $700-900? no one would ever buy. and they NEVER drop the price far of the g85/95s, i bet bc of the lens.
Yeah I kind of assumed if we saw a newer generation small MFT body with PDAF it would sit around the 1000-1100 price point. Right now they don't have any cameras in their line up under £1200 with PDAF.
Looks like Panasonic has a typo == the G97 will be available in February *2024*??? -- ah, I see that they fixed it on their website! I'd be tempted to replace my G85/G80 with the G97 *IF* it has phase-detect autofocus, but Panasonic doesn't say that it does, so it must not. Darn!
hi man, I know this comment is out of place on g97 video, but I wanted to know that does prores videos on Panasonic have more dynamic range compair to h.265 and also heard that MOV has more dynamic range than MP4. What are yours thoughts on this? Because I am confused between g9ii and s9, I color grade my footage very heavily in Resolve, I want a robust video codec which gives more dynamic range and won't break the quailty during color grading, have your h.264/2.265 10bit 422 video has loss quality when you pushed it too far in color grading? Please share your thoughts, because if I can get away with MOV H.264/H.265 codecs in s9 it would be the perfect camera for me, but missing of prores in s9 is leaning my decision toward g9ii. And I really enjoyed your video on Panasonic cameras. its really informative😊
Hey, it should have the same DR in either but ProRes would be more flexible in post as it is more compressed. The same goes for MOV and MP4, the MP4 options are the most compressed and some of them are 8-bit options. But the All-I option in the MOV settings is very good. The big difference you will find between those two cameras though is that the S9 being a full-frame camera has 14 stops of DR where whereas the G9m2 has a max of 13 stops. So its a trade-off between more stops of dynamic range but in a more compressed format. I would imagine the S9 footage would be a bit cleaner, I do find myself doing a bit of noise reduction from time to time with my GH6 footage. In all honesty, I don't shoot in ProRes much, mainly just due to how massive the files are and All-i and even LongGOP works for what I need most of the time. Hope thats helps. Thanks, I appreciate it 🙏
@@stevelitton Yes its was very helpfull, can you please answer one last question. How much difference is there in term of flexibly in All-i compression compared to longGoP is it night and day difference interms of colorgrading And thanks sharing your knowledge I only have access to IPB compression in canon 90D its.
@@omkarbhoir6704 No problem. Certainly not night and day but you get more frames to work with and often you have an option for 422 over 420. If I am shooting V Log i do tend to lean towards All-Intra but I have shot plenty in LongGop and it's looked fine. I don't push grades super hard though. I would recommend using the Lumix Loan scheme if you can, then you can do some hands-on tests before committing to anything.
@@stevelitton yeah it’s still there. The same chips and sensors used it seems. Kinda like the idea of a G97 for like a wide angle camera for shoots. But might be better off with something else.
That's a shame. I do honestly think its a good value little camera with the lens bundle. But I guess you could probably get a decent used G9 or GH5 for less money and get a lot more features.
panasonic updated this as per EU legislation , minor updates. much like the s5d and the fz82 no pdaf nothing to see here - just legislation compliance describe 2024 panasonic releases : underwhelming I love panasonic but this aint it lads
Certainly not the news a lot of people were waiting for. Don't forget the Panasonic GH7 and S9 came out in 2024, so not a let down for everyone. I kind of feel like the compact MFT camera many want may never come unforunately.
If they were closing why would they bother updating the G95 and releasing a new compact camera? Wouldn't they just take the existing stock and sell it off rather than releasing new stuff? They have released quite a few new full frame and MFT cameras over the last few years. I feel like they are probably more popular now than they have ever been.
@@stevelittonno new customers in Lumix as Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fuji and OM all have PDAF. Nikon and Fuji all introduced cameras withPDAF and better video spec in this pricerange. This means less new users and lower marketshare. You cannot live only of the current users with G9 II and GH7. In 5 years there are no entry level users who wants to upgrade to the GH8 or G9 III. The G90 should have been upgraded with PDAF and better video spec to compete with Fuji, Canon and Nikon.
Yeah I know that's what a lot of people want, a truly compact MFT camera with PDAF and some of the newer features. I kind of feel like the release of the S9 was the nail in the coffin for that but maybe I'm wrong there. They aren't really releasing any MFT lenses anymore, we have only seen 1 from Panasonic in the last few years (plus some minor lens updates). So you would assume their priority really is getting people into the full frame eco-system. Who knows, maybe something will come along in 2025 🤷♂️
@@CT-vm4gf I agree. To my mind, the compact market has very little reason to exist anymore with everyone already carrying a phone around and the quality/zoom capabilities between the two not being as vast anymore. The convenience it once had is now more of a burden to getting a quick shot. But there does seem to have been a bit of a resurgence in people using compact cameras. It's likely nothing more than a brief nostalgia trend but I can see why brands want to jump on it for a quick buck. Sadly for Panasonic, the demand will likely have disappeared before this even becomes available with them not coming until after Christmas.
I'm looking for an upgrade from the Sony RX100 VA. Panasonic ZS99 fails in every possible way, Panasonic is absolutely clueless about anything a content creator would want. It doesn't even have 10-bit video. What year is this, 2018? Total failure, and a disconnected, out of touch company
Oh that's a nice little camera the Sony RX100. The ZS99 would definitely be a backward step from that. Have you had a look at the S9? That is their most recent compact release, it's full-frame, so the body and lenses are a little pricey but it looks like it has some decent video and connectivity features for quite a small camera body.
Where is the update to the gm5 series ?
Hopefully, something comes along this year but listening to the Lumix Live videos I kind of get the feeling that nothing is coming outside of the S9 release.
I think like many that these releases are made to comply with European regulations (USB-C in particular). They will do this for any equipment they want to be able to continue to sell on the European market.
The entry-level, lightweight and high-performance camera with PDAF exists : it is the OM System OM5. Will they make an equivalent body?
Yes, it is just a refresh rather than a significant update. I do hope they will release a new compact MFT camera but it seems more and more unlikely as time goes by.
it actually looks to me like the size i want. but, im not going backwards on pdaf. richard wong said the bad part that i agree with is this might be the last m43 camera we see for a while or forever. i think that's true, though i still think they need to do a g100ii due to how well it sells.
Yeah, it's not an upgrade camera in my opinion. I think Panasonic kind of dropped the ball by not understanding how much demand was there for a smaller MFT body with PDAF. By the time they manage to get something to market (if they ever do), that demand will have dwindled significantly.
@@stevelitton they seem to have overestimated how much they were going to sell of that old sensor. i wonder if they couldn't have come up with something more creative to get rid of the old parts. like a project with logitech on an advanced webcam. or a bgh2 at a decent price. the thing that hurts here is why would they give us an entry pdaf m43 camera with this thing sitting out there at $700-900? no one would ever buy. and they NEVER drop the price far of the g85/95s, i bet bc of the lens.
Yeah I kind of assumed if we saw a newer generation small MFT body with PDAF it would sit around the 1000-1100 price point. Right now they don't have any cameras in their line up under £1200 with PDAF.
Looks like Panasonic has a typo == the G97 will be available in February *2024*??? -- ah, I see that they fixed it on their website! I'd be tempted to replace my G85/G80 with the G97 *IF* it has phase-detect autofocus, but Panasonic doesn't say that it does, so it must not. Darn!
Ha yeah, it is kind of mad to release a camera in 2025 without PDAF but this is nothing really more than a refresh as opposed to a release.
hi man, I know this comment is out of place on g97 video, but I wanted to know that does prores videos on Panasonic have more dynamic range compair to h.265 and also heard that MOV has more dynamic range than MP4. What are yours thoughts on this? Because I am confused between g9ii and s9, I color grade my footage very heavily in Resolve, I want a robust video codec which gives more dynamic range and won't break the quailty during color grading, have your h.264/2.265 10bit 422 video has loss quality when you pushed it too far in color grading? Please share your thoughts, because if I can get away with MOV H.264/H.265 codecs in s9 it would be the perfect camera for me, but missing of prores in s9 is leaning my decision toward g9ii.
And I really enjoyed your video on Panasonic cameras. its really informative😊
Hey, it should have the same DR in either but ProRes would be more flexible in post as it is more compressed. The same goes for MOV and MP4, the MP4 options are the most compressed and some of them are 8-bit options. But the All-I option in the MOV settings is very good.
The big difference you will find between those two cameras though is that the S9 being a full-frame camera has 14 stops of DR where whereas the G9m2 has a max of 13 stops. So its a trade-off between more stops of dynamic range but in a more compressed format. I would imagine the S9 footage would be a bit cleaner, I do find myself doing a bit of noise reduction from time to time with my GH6 footage. In all honesty, I don't shoot in ProRes much, mainly just due to how massive the files are and All-i and even LongGOP works for what I need most of the time. Hope thats helps.
Thanks, I appreciate it 🙏
@@stevelitton Yes its was very helpfull, can you please answer one last question. How much difference is there in term of flexibly in All-i compression compared to longGoP is it night and day difference interms of colorgrading
And thanks sharing your knowledge I only have access to IPB compression in canon 90D its.
@@omkarbhoir6704 No problem. Certainly not night and day but you get more frames to work with and often you have an option for 422 over 420. If I am shooting V Log i do tend to lean towards All-Intra but I have shot plenty in LongGop and it's looked fine. I don't push grades super hard though. I would recommend using the Lumix Loan scheme if you can, then you can do some hands-on tests before committing to anything.
@@stevelitton Okay Thanks man really appricate your help😊
@@omkarbhoir6704 No problem 👍
No evf & no 1"sensor.No go .its will be hard to sell .
They said on a recent Lumix Live that it was refreshed due to good sales. The lack of MFT lenses being released doesn't really support that though.
Vlog.. unlimited recording are a win. But still a crop in 4k is a bummer.
I haven't really seen anything about the additional 1.25x crop in 4K on this version I guess it still exists or they would have mentioned it.
@@stevelitton yeah it’s still there. The same chips and sensors used it seems.
Kinda like the idea of a G97 for like a wide angle camera for shoots. But might be better off with something else.
That's a shame. I do honestly think its a good value little camera with the lens bundle. But I guess you could probably get a decent used G9 or GH5 for less money and get a lot more features.
And it looks like it still has the contrast-based AF.... ☹
@@aengusmacnaughton1375 Yeah, no PDAF on this one sadly 🙁
Looks like stock clearance scheme!
Best way to clear them would have been to just reduce them all before having to update them 🙂
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panasonic updated this as per EU legislation , minor updates. much like the s5d and the fz82
no pdaf
nothing to see here - just legislation compliance
describe 2024 panasonic releases : underwhelming
I love panasonic but this aint it lads
Certainly not the news a lot of people were waiting for. Don't forget the Panasonic GH7 and S9 came out in 2024, so not a let down for everyone. I kind of feel like the compact MFT camera many want may never come unforunately.
Stock clearance.
The company is closing soon...
Unfortunately, these moves lead me to these thoughts...
If they were closing why would they bother updating the G95 and releasing a new compact camera? Wouldn't they just take the existing stock and sell it off rather than releasing new stuff? They have released quite a few new full frame and MFT cameras over the last few years. I feel like they are probably more popular now than they have ever been.
@stevelitton old cameras (with dfd in 2024 !!!) With new name.
Scam or stock clearance. Choose what you like.
Just don't tell us about "new" cameras.
Yeah they clearly didn't think it would sell enough to be worth updating the sensor for PDAF.
@@DroneStories Those are the dumbest options. How about - has a ton of bodies and sensors and no older connectivity. parts
DFD again??? Are they trying to lose money?
I am guessing it is just using the old sensor, so it's cheaper to keep on the shelves.
@@stevelittonno new customers in Lumix as Nikon, Canon, Sony, Fuji and OM all have PDAF. Nikon and Fuji all introduced cameras withPDAF and better video spec in this pricerange. This means less new users and lower marketshare. You cannot live only of the current users with G9 II and GH7. In 5 years there are no entry level users who wants to upgrade to the GH8 or G9 III. The G90 should have been upgraded with PDAF and better video spec to compete with Fuji, Canon and Nikon.
Yeah I know that's what a lot of people want, a truly compact MFT camera with PDAF and some of the newer features. I kind of feel like the release of the S9 was the nail in the coffin for that but maybe I'm wrong there. They aren't really releasing any MFT lenses anymore, we have only seen 1 from Panasonic in the last few years (plus some minor lens updates). So you would assume their priority really is getting people into the full frame eco-system. Who knows, maybe something will come along in 2025 🤷♂️
Unfortunately the compact market is almost nonexistent, why pour money into r&d with no payoff. A dying market isn’t worth investing in.
@@CT-vm4gf I agree. To my mind, the compact market has very little reason to exist anymore with everyone already carrying a phone around and the quality/zoom capabilities between the two not being as vast anymore. The convenience it once had is now more of a burden to getting a quick shot. But there does seem to have been a bit of a resurgence in people using compact cameras. It's likely nothing more than a brief nostalgia trend but I can see why brands want to jump on it for a quick buck. Sadly for Panasonic, the demand will likely have disappeared before this even becomes available with them not coming until after Christmas.
I'm looking for an upgrade from the Sony RX100 VA. Panasonic ZS99 fails in every possible way, Panasonic is absolutely clueless about anything a content creator would want. It doesn't even have 10-bit video. What year is this, 2018? Total failure, and a disconnected, out of touch company
Oh that's a nice little camera the Sony RX100. The ZS99 would definitely be a backward step from that. Have you had a look at the S9? That is their most recent compact release, it's full-frame, so the body and lenses are a little pricey but it looks like it has some decent video and connectivity features for quite a small camera body.
The latest RX100 is a good bit more expensive than the ZS99, so it doesn't seem like they are competitors anyway....
Better sticking to Sony RX100 series.