Kathy was hilarious when she learned that Cindy and Ian have been living together again in France; "Oh, I can just imagine how that went! 'Sorry I tried to have you killed love, but now that I'm on my uppers, I need you again. Oops, there go my knickers!'" Just brilliant!
It’s weird because Kathy faked her death illegally, Cindy’s was lawful because she had help from the police. Kathy literally stood trial for fraud 😂 I think Cindy wins here 🙌🏼
@@joestewart-paul3260 A man walks into a butcher and says what's happened to your apprentice butcher? Had to sack him for putting his knob in the bacon slicer, replied the butcher. Oh, what have you done with the bacon slicer? Asks the man I've sacked her too, said the butcher.
What makes you think there will be any drama when Sharon comes back against Sharon? If that was the case, Kathy seeing Cindy would have been the duff-duff tonight. But clearly that isn't the storyline the writers care about for some reason.
I DEMAND TO KNOW Gillian's beauty secret. She looks better now than 30 years ago. I know she did threading because she talked about it but she looks younger than the actresses in their 40s.
@@sexydudeuk2172 yes; I noted that in my comment, but I feel it has to be more than that. I think she had her eyes (eye lift) and nose done sometime after Footballer's Wives.
Why wasn't the Kathy realisation the big duff-duff. Isn't the big headline grabbing story about Cindy Beale returning? Sire the revelation of Rose Knight is interesting but she needs to be reestablished as Cindy first, with the characters we have known for years showing the scale of her being alive before that kicks in as well!!
@joey-xq3ei I'm perfectly happy waiting the day between episodes, I just wish they were at least pretending to tell the story that was promised. The knights are interesting enough and sure the reappearance of Gina and Anna's mum is a big deal for them and anyone who cares about them. But they haven't been in the soap long enough for me to be one of those people yet. As someone who is too young to remember Cindy in her previous stint, I also don't really have much connection to her yet either. That needs to be built back up by showing what her reappearance means fo characters I already know and have some understanding of how they view the world. People like Kathy, Phil, Sharon and others (even maybe Sonia and Martin).
Also one minute, Cindy is saying that there is a lot of history between her and Kathy. Then the next it's all resolved and they are working seemlessly together to sort out the birthday food.
Eastenders is EPIC. You should have bought Cindy back earlier. Her return is great. I can see a really interesting christmas with Eastenders this year, so intreiguing. Pls bring back Roxy too P.s Loved how she walked behind Denise and her sister and they didn't know she was there, Kat was in the cafe? Come on surely they know her!!
Kat, Denise nor Kim know Cindy they have never met her. She "died" off screen years 2 before the Slaters arrived and Foxes didnt start arriving till 2006.
Other than Kathy, Ian, and Peter, the only people who would remember Cindy are Sharon, Phil, Martin and maybe Sonia. George and their daughters would remember her as Rose.
So.....Cindy knows Lucy was murdered.....but not by Bobby ? Are we to assume whenever she found out about her daughter being killed.....she never went online to find out more information ?
Not sure but that’s when she left George. When she found out about Lucy. Question is why didn’t she also visit Steven’s resting place? And does she know she’s got another two grandchildren apart Louis?
I thought she would know and keep up with the case but when Ian or Peter mentioned bobby she didn't have an angry reaction or anything so maybe she doesn't know
Kathy was so confused when Cindy is back also Kathy has also been away to South Africa in a cruise with Rocky and when they are back she didn’t know Cindy turns up at the blue on her doorstep
Never thought with the whole "who killed lucy" storyline how big that was that years later in the same room we see both kathy and cindy who we thought were dead lol
1:59 - 2:26 Cindy: ' Hello Kathy' Kathy: 'Cindy!' Cindy: 'Just like Pauline, always leaving the back door open' Kathy: 'You're dead. You died!' Don't think so Kathy.....your ex-daughter-in-law has just walked in, alive & well & large as life....lol 😄 so obviously Cindy IS alive!
Kathy was so funny. A stranger walks into your house and you look at them once. Turn around and carry on and then look back haha, what a joke that part was. Plus who can she ridicule she literally faked her own death!
“You’re dead. You died”. No Kathy, I am a ghost or you are hallucinating. Kathy should have said “Cindy. I must be dreaming. This can’t be real. This can’t be happening. Please somebody wake me up!”
The whole "characters coming back from the dead" is a story telling trope that I've never been fond of. I personally feel that if a show is going to kill someone off, then commit to it. To have them come back, robs the initial impact of their death of any real meaning because it now no longer holds any weight. American daytime soaps have infamously overused this plot device to the point where it's both predictable and laughable. The fact that British soaps are deploying the same tactic (with "Eastenders" doing it THREE times now) is a worrying trend......
@@bpoleary1 Angie watts wouldn’t be a bad shout 😂 Her, Sharon and Keanu taking over the Vic again but sadly not enough people in the Sq will remember her
Imagine Barry Evans faked his death too. But who knows but I was shocked that Barry was the one that helped Cindy by giving her the number of hitman to have Ian shot. Barry was good friends with her and David. He let them have an affair in his flat. But I'm surprised about Barry's early years but he was always a clown I never imagine someone like him do that kind of stuff.
It's nice to see Niall Horan have a good start to his acting career in Eastenders however it still must be a massive come down from his days in One Direction having number one albums and touring the world just to be in Eastenders years later 😑
Hey Eastenders I’ve got a believable storyline for you to bring Dennis Rickman (Nigel Harman) back from the dead… Ok we start with the premise that Dennis already knew about the threat of Johnny wanting to kill him, keeping it secret from Sharon and playing dumb to Phil. Danny Moon confesses to Dennis that Johnny was ordering him to stab him, and Danny didn’t want to do it. Fearful for his life incase someone else came to kill him, Dennis goes to the police and makes a deal with them, admitting to killing Jack Dalton. The police satisfied, give Dennis protection to wear, and involve Danny Moon in the set up. With the police unaware that Dennis beat up Johnny ( final retaliation before he leaves Walford ) Danny pretends to stab Dennis on New Year’s Eve when Johnny makes the call from his office, and Dennis fakes his death, in order to protect Sharon and the baby, and starts his long prison sentence away from London. As we all know, Danny Moon got shot dead by Jake, and Johnny died in prison. Nobody left to tell the story except for Dennis. Like father like son…. Would love some feedback on this? Thanks.
Don’t know about anyone else but this story line doesn’t interest me at all. Also Elaine and the Knights aren’t a great addition. More interested in who the body on the floor of the Vic is.
Cindy at least your son is from Gallifrey just a shame Lucy didn't have the same powers too Regenerate as your son did, Killing off Lucy was a another mistake from the writers and not for the first time or the last time either.
That's the problem when you recast a role. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It was revolutionary with Doctor Who cos The Doctor is an extra-terrestrial allowing any actor to take the role.
@@danielwilliamson6180 Yes the Doctor is an Extra terrestrial but he can't change his Gender or Skin Colour, but unfortunately now this is what Happens in the Woke World of today as soon Chris Chibnall got his hands on it ruining 54 years of History with many generations watching the Doctor as a Man nothing else no wonder this world is in a serious mess by the wokes, the liberals and the progressives of today's society.
Really? Just learned Cindy is alive. First Kathy and now Cindy. Jesus. Who's next, tiffney? Bradley? Ohh Jamie would be a good one. Unbelievable, glad I stopped watching this garbage years ago
Kathy: "You're dead! You died!"
Me: So did you Kathy.
😂😂😂
I'm mad that Cindy didn't respond with that comeback.
@@busterkeatonsbriefsShe mentioned it later on.
Kathy is hypocrite because she faked her own death as well. 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
She could have said “I thought the same about you Kathy” 😂😂
Kathy was hilarious when she learned that Cindy and Ian have been living together again in France; "Oh, I can just imagine how that went! 'Sorry I tried to have you killed love, but now that I'm on my uppers, I need you again. Oops, there go my knickers!'"
Just brilliant!
To be honest Kathy's anger at Cindy in this scene seems more about what she did to Ian in the past, rather than faking her death.
Well Kathy we all thought YOU was dead but here we are 😂😂
It’s weird because Kathy faked her death illegally, Cindy’s was lawful because she had help from the police. Kathy literally stood trial for fraud 😂 I think Cindy wins here 🙌🏼
Just shows how utterly ridiculous EE has become. It has nothing but tripe for around twenty years
@@johngilmore697 it was actually much better 20 years ago to be fair. It turned to shit after 2005..
@@joey-xq3ei 2003 Den coming back was the nail in the coffin. And all the gangster crap
Then again Kathy didn't have a choice because of psycho Gavin
@@joestewart-paul3260 A man walks into a butcher and says what's happened to your apprentice butcher?
Had to sack him for putting his knob in the bacon slicer, replied the butcher.
Oh, what have you done with the bacon slicer? Asks the man
I've sacked her too, said the butcher.
The long-running feud between Kathy Beale and Cindy Beale has officially resurfaced once more.
Has it? One is 70 and one is 60ish?
Omg what an ep felt like an Xmas ep .
East Enders is on fire at the moment. Living the dream 😂😎
I love how Kathy dropped the knife, just like Sharon dropped the wrench on Kathys return. Good call back
Kathy having the moral high ground on this one when she faked her death as well 😂
Different situation. Her husband blackmailed her.
That's totally different she was in an abusive relationship
@@IloveAliBromley So are millions of men and women and they don't go and fake their deaths.
@@lefez9015 It's still different to Cathy's one
@@Guitar-qv6gusame thing😂
EastEnders has been the best soap in years
Queen Cindy Beale is back in the right soap this time.
Never thought Corrie suited her
QUEEN CINDY BEALE IS BACK IN THE RIGHT SOAP THIS TIME GLORY SENGO.
Good ol Stella price
@@joey-xq3ei well done Sherlock, do you want a medal for pointing out the obvious
@@joey-xq3eiI loved her in Corrie personally.
i love cindy i am soo happy she and ian are back in the show again😊😊😊
You love her?!wow
whats wrong with that???@@DanNic88
Best episode of the year so far - along with Lola and Jay's day out in Margate. Now for Cindy to face Sharon.......🥵
Why should Cindy face Sharon??? They both tried to kill Ian.
What makes you think there will be any drama when Sharon comes back against Sharon?
If that was the case, Kathy seeing Cindy would have been the duff-duff tonight. But clearly that isn't the storyline the writers care about for some reason.
@@quintuscrinis I see no point in Cindy facing Sharon. Why should she?
@danielwilliamson6180 because they knew each other before and Cindy tried to kill Ian who was at the time Sharon's best friend.
@@quintuscrinis Yes. I knew that. SVC: Sharon VS Cindy.
Kathy is the Peter Pettigrew of EastEnders 😂
I DEMAND TO KNOW Gillian's beauty secret. She looks better now than 30 years ago. I know she did threading because she talked about it but she looks younger than the actresses in their 40s.
The actress is nearly 70 in real life. It’s ridiculous 😂
She's had thread lifts
@@sexydudeuk2172 yes; I noted that in my comment, but I feel it has to be more than that. I think she had her eyes (eye lift) and nose done sometime after Footballer's Wives.
@@thenightporter well she has got a daughter who specialises in botox so I wouldn't be surprised if her daughter gives her botox injections
She looks amazing virtually the same!
Made you think Cindy looks older then Kathy 😅😅😅
Right?!?! Ian looks almost older than his mum too
@@rejt1996no they don't
Did anyone else see the trailer after the episode it was a Stacey and Theo one next Monday
Yes I did he needs to piss off he's doing my head in
Why wasn't the Kathy realisation the big duff-duff.
Isn't the big headline grabbing story about Cindy Beale returning?
Sire the revelation of Rose Knight is interesting but she needs to be reestablished as Cindy first, with the characters we have known for years showing the scale of her being alive before that kicks in as well!!
Because I would have had my own duff-duff if they did that! Everyone hates when it ends 😂😂 a whole 24 hours til the next one…
@joey-xq3ei I'm perfectly happy waiting the day between episodes, I just wish they were at least pretending to tell the story that was promised.
The knights are interesting enough and sure the reappearance of Gina and Anna's mum is a big deal for them and anyone who cares about them. But they haven't been in the soap long enough for me to be one of those people yet.
As someone who is too young to remember Cindy in her previous stint, I also don't really have much connection to her yet either. That needs to be built back up by showing what her reappearance means fo characters I already know and have some understanding of how they view the world. People like Kathy, Phil, Sharon and others (even maybe Sonia and Martin).
Also one minute, Cindy is saying that there is a lot of history between her and Kathy. Then the next it's all resolved and they are working seemlessly together to sort out the birthday food.
I’d love to know if Kathy’s double take was scripted or just added in by the director/actor, as it’s such a realistic reaction to something like this
Peter trying to put on a Cockley accent 😆 🤣 😂
This Peter has always talked like Ali G
It's pathetic, you can't fake Londoner very easily
Eastenders is EPIC. You should have bought Cindy back earlier. Her return is great. I can see a really interesting christmas with Eastenders this year, so intreiguing. Pls bring back Roxy too P.s Loved how she walked behind Denise and her sister and they didn't know she was there, Kat was in the cafe? Come on surely they know her!!
It was wrong what she did a long time ago. I hope she finds redemption. I hope she hasn't return for a new scheme and to give the family more trouble.
Kat, Denise nor Kim know Cindy they have never met her. She "died" off screen years 2 before the Slaters arrived and Foxes didnt start arriving till 2006.
Cindys an old timer way before Stacey, Kat, Kim, Denise etc. so glad she’s back
Other than Kathy, Ian, and Peter, the only people who would remember Cindy are Sharon, Phil, Martin and maybe Sonia. George and their daughters would remember her as Rose.
Grant Needs To Return
2:00 didn't she realise who she was then 😂😂
Kathy as aged amazing 🤩
How long before George and Cindy reunite and Elaine and Ian are dumped.
I was thinking the same thing. It's predictable.
@@Midik5925I suspect that will happen too.
Very predictable.. as if Cindy would choose a weasel like Ian over a proper man like George 😂
Can't believe it is happening
Can they bring David wicks back too?
So glad to see Cindy back but sadness the loss her daughter
So.....Cindy knows Lucy was murdered.....but not by Bobby ? Are we to assume whenever she found out about her daughter being killed.....she never went online to find out more information ?
Not sure but that’s when she left George. When she found out about Lucy. Question is why didn’t she also visit Steven’s resting place? And does she know she’s got another two grandchildren apart Louis?
I thought she would know and keep up with the case but when Ian or Peter mentioned bobby she didn't have an angry reaction or anything so maybe she doesn't know
If she finds out, she'll set out to revenge kill Bobby.
What about her other daughter Cindy Jr.?
@@samanthab1923 She may return.
Kathy was so confused when Cindy is back also Kathy has also been away to South Africa in a cruise with Rocky and when they are back she didn’t know Cindy turns up at the blue on her doorstep
And they STILL haven't brought back Terry and Irene 😡
Terry was a true personality. Irene henpecked him half to death but admittedly they were so believable
Love to be an extra on EastEnders my favourite ❤
So did you Kathy! 2:23
That wasn’t Cathy, a hypocrite treating Cindy that way. When she herself play the same game on playing dead herself years back.
I've waited 25 years for Cindy to return back to the square.
I think i would with both
Never thought with the whole "who killed lucy" storyline how big that was that years later in the same room we see both kathy and cindy who we thought were dead lol
1:59 - 2:26
Cindy: ' Hello Kathy'
Kathy: 'Cindy!'
Cindy: 'Just like Pauline, always leaving the back door open'
Kathy: 'You're dead. You died!'
Don't think so Kathy.....your ex-daughter-in-law has just walked in, alive & well & large as life....lol 😄 so obviously Cindy IS alive!
Kathy was so funny. A stranger walks into your house and you look at them once. Turn around and carry on and then look back haha, what a joke that part was. Plus who can she ridicule she literally faked her own death!
Kathy looks younger than Cindy, the actress has aged poorly.
The stress of not being asked back for all those years
Bring back Cindy Willam Jnr
That actress was stunning!
“You’re dead. You died”. No Kathy, I am a ghost or you are hallucinating. Kathy should have said “Cindy. I must be dreaming. This can’t be real. This can’t be happening. Please somebody wake me up!”
I wonder if Cindy will lay flowers for Stephen too or has everyone forgotten about him.
Surely they’ve got to bring Peggy back. Since when has being dead ever stopped EE😂😂
sadly barbara windsor is no longer with us so they'd have to recast her if they did
This is so gd 2:00 aaaa😂😂😂😂
What happened to Peter?
Cindy has been criminally underused since her return.
And now she's back too her 90's persona
Bit late to shed bitter tears on Lucy's grave.
There's more resurrections in Albert Square than there is in the Bible!
And Rakky Butcher as well
He’s not very telegenic anymore tho is he? Which is why they only brought him back for a month last year, no photoshoots nothing…. in and out again.
Gillian Taylforth looks 10 years younger than Michelle Collins!
I would say 20!!
Don’t drop the plates Cindy!’
She will definitely be dead when Kathy finds out she ruined her platter 🤣
And Bring back David Wicks and Simon Wicks as well
Are they both still alive?
@@samanthab1923yes
Deja Vu for Kathy? Also Ian's women come back from the dead so it will be Laura and Lucy back soon
The whole "characters coming back from the dead" is a story telling trope that I've never been fond of. I personally feel that if a show is going to kill someone off, then commit to it.
To have them come back, robs the initial impact of their death of any real meaning because it now no longer holds any weight.
American daytime soaps have infamously overused this plot device to the point where it's both predictable and laughable. The fact that British soaps are deploying the same tactic (with "Eastenders" doing it THREE times now) is a worrying trend......
Eastenders is getting very interesting.
That was awkward
Does Cindy not care about Steven
How does Kathy look so much younger than her daughter in law???
Who else has faked their death? So far Den, Nick, Kathy, Cindy. Whose next? Barry? 😂
Don’t forget Frank 😂
Reg Cox! 😂
Mick Carter to come back from the dead soon lol
Angie Watts.
@@bpoleary1 Angie watts wouldn’t be a bad shout 😂 Her, Sharon and Keanu taking over the Vic again but sadly not enough people in the Sq will remember her
Well in fairness you know about being dead eh Kathy both of you should have a lot in common now 😏
Eastenders. The only watchable one at the moment. Corrie, emmerdale, and hollyoaks need new writers.
Hollyoaks is getting new producers
Corrie needs to go now
@@BrettMears-p4qsays who?
@@Leeann-rz3ei The vast majority of its viewers
@@BrettMears-p4q you mean most people love it. Is it too difficult for you to understand, is that why you want it gone? You're too thick to follow it?
Kathy also faked her death too she can't say anything 😂😂😂
No one dies in EE. Resurrection in years down the line. Wondering when thick Mick will rock up.
Imagine Barry Evans faked his death too. But who knows but I was shocked that Barry was the one that helped Cindy by giving her the number of hitman to have Ian shot. Barry was good friends with her and David. He let them have an affair in his flat. But I'm surprised about Barry's early years but he was always a clown I never imagine someone like him do that kind of stuff.
It's nice to see Niall Horan have a good start to his acting career in Eastenders however it still must be a massive come down from his days in One Direction having number one albums and touring the world just to be in Eastenders years later 😑
this is what they’ll do with lola i bet
This all started with Den Watts, and they just kept doing it without apology
Cindy reminds me of Tracie Andrews.
Love Kathy
Cindy should have said I taught you were dead too to Katy ,
Who was the guy Cindy was looking at when she dropped the tray
I haven't watched eastenders in years by the way 😂
Cindy's ex husband apparently...George knight ?
New Landlord of the Vic… George Knight… he lives there now with his two girls aka Cindy’s long lost daughters…
Am i the only one who thinks Kathy looks younger than Cindy
Ians mum looks younger than his ex wife!
We need ricky, Bianca, and Jane back in EastEnders!! And get rid of "NPC" characters
They couldn’t get Jane to come back so they brought Cindy back instead. Everybody thought Ian’s mystery caller last year was Jane.
Pete's gonna pop up alive next
Is it just me, Rose looks older than Kathy.
Cindy and George will find themselves in bed soon. Mark my words. This is EastEnders and Cindy we're talking about.
Hey Eastenders I’ve got a believable storyline for you to bring Dennis Rickman (Nigel Harman) back from the dead…
Ok we start with the premise that Dennis already knew about the threat of Johnny wanting to kill him, keeping it secret from Sharon and playing dumb to Phil.
Danny Moon confesses to Dennis that Johnny was ordering him to stab him, and Danny didn’t want to do it.
Fearful for his life incase someone else came to kill him, Dennis goes to the police and makes a deal with them, admitting to killing Jack Dalton.
The police satisfied, give Dennis protection to wear, and involve Danny Moon in the set up.
With the police unaware that Dennis beat up Johnny ( final retaliation before he leaves Walford ) Danny pretends to stab Dennis on New Year’s Eve when Johnny makes the call from his office, and Dennis fakes his death, in order to protect Sharon and the baby, and starts his long prison sentence away from London.
As we all know, Danny Moon got shot dead by Jake, and Johnny died in prison.
Nobody left to tell the story except for Dennis.
Like father like son….
Would love some feedback on this? Thanks.
Writers clearly have no new material
A lot of Ian's family has faked their death. 😂
Don’t know about anyone else but this story line doesn’t interest me at all. Also Elaine and the Knights aren’t a great addition. More interested in who the body on the floor of the Vic is.
Cindy at least your son is from Gallifrey just a shame Lucy didn't have the same powers too Regenerate as your son did, Killing off Lucy was a another mistake from the writers and not for the first time or the last time either.
That's the problem when you recast a role. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It was revolutionary with Doctor Who cos The Doctor is an extra-terrestrial allowing any actor to take the role.
@@danielwilliamson6180 Yes the Doctor is an Extra terrestrial but he can't change his Gender or Skin Colour, but unfortunately now this is what Happens in the Woke World of today as soon Chris Chibnall got his hands on it ruining 54 years of History with many generations watching the Doctor as a Man nothing else no wonder this world is in a serious mess by the wokes, the liberals and the progressives of today's society.
Ugh, why is Peter ghetto
Really? Just learned Cindy is alive. First Kathy and now Cindy. Jesus. Who's next, tiffney? Bradley? Ohh Jamie would be a good one. Unbelievable, glad I stopped watching this garbage years ago
Terrible acting from michelle collins and thomas law
and what do you know about acting? You're only jealous.