Was Ellen G. White Black?
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- Опубликовано: 28 фев 2022
- Dr. Benjamin Baker discusses the possibility of Ellen White being black
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Never heard any suggestions that she was black, but it doesn't matter to me if she was or not.
Actually it does, she denigrated blacks vociferously, so the insight helps analyze her motives.
She is certainly very Stange!! Bizarre
@@markingersoll2671how so?
@@catholic4sure976 you must be a Jesuit
@@alfredtameifuna8928 you must be bigot
The first time I saw EGW’s photo, I immediately could see she was biracial.
😂 you need to do some research. 😂
By her pictures, I've always thought she had black on her family tree but to me that was irrelevant as what was important was her messages from God for us.
If it is true it would in no way change my respect and love for Sister White but the White Estate seems eager to deny it like it's a bad thing
Why is it a bad thing? Why does everything have to be about race? She was white, no biracial genes
I don’t see them denying it. Her features and the color of her skin are simply not important in light of her life’s purpose and copious mass of beautiful writing.
Whoa! Tell it. You not lying. But it's really more deeper than people realize. I'm talking of Biblical proportion deep.
I get that impression, but it matters little to me. If you were desperate to have a connection, it could be made. If you're desperate to not have a connection, it has been made.
For the narrative reasons I'm curious!
What does it matter if she was white or black? God choose her to be His spokesperson. It does matter if you hearken the words of God or not. One thing becomes obvious to me years ago already, SDA organization is not operating according God's words expressed through the writings of this precious woman. I worked for a SDA man 30 years ago, was staying on his property next to his house. One morning I was walking to the rubbish hole to throw out my dash bin. In the hole the rubbish were burning with hard cover books in it. I picked up one book and start reading. Needless to say, I rescued all the other books I could. To make a long story short, I become part of the SDA, but soon realized Im not welcome in their midst. Happy to say, I follow my Jesus where ever He leads me, thanks to this women. I am white.
It’s because she is portrayed as white.
@@godlovessophiia Yes it matters if a Black person is portrayed as White - its a plain lie. Let anyone say otherwise.
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I’m 34 miles from Gouldtown if you need me to check on anything? Personally, I think she was black, Indian, & Caucasian just by her looks. Whatever her ethnicity, I think she was a humble prophet of God. Her writings are ordained of God, and lead people to scripture which was her mission. God willing I hope to meet her in glory!
_"I think she was a humble prophet ...."_ You mean a false prophet who called satan - His Majesty?
I've been studying her a lot. Apparently she was misguided and dishonest. I'm so disheartened.
Agreed. I am amazed (and even shamed) at how Jesus ministers to millions because she humbled herself so He could work through her.
@@user-hf1ys4rr5h You are spiritual blind as a rock
EGW was a liar and a fraud. Most of her teachings contradict the Bible .
Dear Dr. B, I have a great aunt that was mistaken for being white, & an aunt that could have been Ellen's sister - both are black - just very light skinned with straight hair. As you know, this is typical in many black families - especially in & around the early 1,900's. It appears that very light skinned blacks were NOT deemed "black" as we call them today. That is why E.W. says Zipporah, Moses's wife was not "black" - but we would call her black today. Also, don't you find it a bit mysterious and convenient that Ellen's Mother cannot be fully identified - but her father can; we even have a picture of him? I don't think this a coincidence. Ellen's "negroid" features had to come from somewhere - they just didn't come from her father.
Her features came from God. He made two people and we all came from them. Our blood is the same and it runs through us all. May God Bless us all sisters and brothers.
@@flea-kh7om
Did EGW not say that there should be no mixed race marriages?
There is only one race the human race I was taught by a dark skinned “black” pastor.
@@flea-kh7om you are so right our earth suit comes from GOD !
@@cindiloowhoo1166 I dont know did she ? I know the bible says that we just shouldnt marry unbelievers.Moses married an ethiopian and his sister murmered about it and got Leprosy.But was healed after moses prayed for her.
Does it matter if Ellen G White was black, her writings are amazing and God given, she was used by God, no doubt.
My brother and I are both from New Jersey and our parents from the southern states of American. My mother's family is from South Louisiana and my father's family is South Alabama and both of our parents' families are of alleged Latin African American Indian Creole and Mulatto, and both grew up in Native African American Indian Latin territory, and record shows that my father's people were People Color. As Christians and disciples of Jesus Christ though a persons race cannot save them, but it was Pastor Dulley's book that allowed me the maturity to except my alleged Latin American Indian roots, because my father grew up in Eufaula, AL which is on the trail of tears.
I don't think it should matter whether she was black or not. We all are equal in God's eyes regardless of color. We all who are children of God, and brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus, will be together in Heaven. You know when I was little I asked my mother why black people wanted their own churches if we would be going to Heaven together? She said she knew it didn't make any sense; and I am here as a white woman to say-what difference does it make? God loves us all-not just black, asian, or white.
So lets say ( assume) that she was WHITE would it be true or false to portray her as BLACK ------Would it be true or false ?
@@colinpatterson728 Assuming she was any color says it makes a difference to us, doesn't it?
@@hannaliesel876 OK assume she is BLACK - would it be true or false to portray hers as WHITE ? - Would it be true or false ?
I learn so much this morning, thank u.
The first time I ever saw a photo of EGW I immediately thought to myself this woman has a strong black genes. I have kept telling anybody who cares to listen that she indeed is black.
I just thought it and thought I must be seeing things
Did her 'biological" mother raise her is another question? It's hard to believe that they wouldn't have a pic of her actual mom unless she was a slave or daughter of a slave. It's possible that her mother was either black or a mixed woman and with native blood also. I know of someone whose great grand mother was native American and African American and married a mixed man who was white and African American. Produced children that could be EGWs siblings based on the REAL photos of her.
She is indeed black but a lighter black
@@deborahfrancois714 she wasn't black. She just had a few drops. If her DNA is mostly European, she was still white. There's no such thing as a one-drop rule.
@@nadiar.7788 -- You must realize why black SDA's want to believe that Mrs. White is black. Yes, there is no such thing as the one drop rule; but blacks need to bolster their self-esteem and will grasp at straws to get it. Yes, there is a book by a black man (Dr. Dudly) on EGW's genealogy, but we see no statements here that are supported by proof. Dudly was not a genealogist. Alice Soule and others were, and their conclusion was that EGW's heritage is Anglo Saxon.
I always thought she was mixed. Beautiful woman
I like to think of her as biracial, especially since we have little to nothing about her mother. I LIKE to think of her as biracial, and I am biracial, half white and half Native American. I have a sort of dark complexion. You can tell I am mixed something or other. Thanks for the video. Love the comments.
You can tell by the way she looks she had a mix heritage
I identify as white though I have a darker complexion being 14% Native American and 3% African. My mom's parents were fairer skinned and her dad was am SDA minister in the 1940's through the early 70's mostly in the Midwest (he retired in Michigan). I grew up in Loma Linda, CA and went to Loma Linda Academy SDA School where most of my classmates at the time were white, Filipino and some Asian with just a few black students. Neither my parents, grandparents, teachers, people at church, no one I associated with in the SDA community growing up ever mentioned or questioned anything about EG White's race and I never thought about it even though I had seen pictures of her. But years after I finished high school and moved to New York City and travelled the globe and wasn't involved with the SDA community and outside the bubble I grew up in I one day saw a picture of EG White and it struck me with surprise to recognize her as being of mixed race. It seemed so obvious. One of my best friends as a kid was a fair-skinned black SDA girl with parents on both sides of her family being fair-skinned black and I knew her extended family and cousins who were all SDA and I found it odd that I didn't recognize EG White as being mixed race as a kid because it wasn't as if I wasn't exposed to fair skinned black people and that it wasn't until I had spent time outside the community that I recognized it. I was explaining the history of the SDA religion to a friend tonight who is white and told him how I believed EG White was biracial and it wasn't talked about thought now decades later maybe times have changed and people in the SDA Church are open about and embrace the fact that she is biracial. I was disappointed to find that it hasn't been concluded yet to be true definitively. Thank you for this video. Upon seeing her pictures my friend totally agrees without question she has African genes in her ancestry. I wish her relatives would do a DNA test. Like someone suggested in an earlier comment.... geneology isn't conclusive. Women can get pregnant by men other than their husbands and there was that question she had about what year she was actually born..... which maybe had to do with fudging a time of conception....and no picture of her mother..... My DNA test results had some surprises that didn't match with family history. Like my mom's dad saying we were part Cherokee Indian on his side and my mom's Ancestry DNA results showed zero Native American ancestry! All my Native American came from my Dad's side (who also had the black ancestry). I think it would be nice and significant since EG White was a good woman who accomplished so much if she could become a part of black history.
For sure she love the African American community Ellen g white is very beloved
one race, human, Christ believers do not regard a persons color, mischief makers pollute the mind
True we are one race but God chose a nation out of the race to be his inheritance. However there is conflict over the comlexion of his chosen people, whether the children of Israel are a so called black or the so called white race. Its mankind who over centuries brought about the issues of race not God and its clearto Identify their complexion because it's written in scriptures particularly in the old testament. Yet people deny the truths through cognitive dissonance.
Great work you are doing.
Would love to get content that can be shown at churches that is shorter and to the point.
I love Ellen G White exactly as she is because her divine writing and spiritual integrity draws me to her. I think it a special blessing from God that she looked both black and white. How wonderful that she is a woman for all nations!
What??! Haven`t you read or seen all her false teachings and lies?
@@zaaigoedWhat are her the false teachings and lies?
“For all nations”? Then why did she have no problem with our country exterminating the natives in the name of manifest destiny. While the Modoc nations were being slaughtered just for wanting to keep 6 square miles of their own land, EG White was warning about the perils of 6 year old boys masturbating. How is that putting priorities in order for all nations? SDAs are so enamored with the claims of the woman who suffered brain damage from a thrown rock, that they just cannot get past the absurdity of her admonitions and claims. She had no empathy for the racism against all non whites. If god was indeed talking to her, why would she not address the inequities, intolerance, and injustice of the times in which she was extensively writing? She was extremely petty concerning things she wanted to criticize, yet completely bypassed the fact that millions were being slaughtered by the racism in America. It is a failure of the denomination to completely ignore these facts that were so prevalent. Where were the extreme Religious right who were focusing on all things spiritual?
She looks like my grandmother. I call her Auntie Ellen.
The idea it doesn't matter weather she was Black or not... leave that in God hand's.
Not that it matters, but some of her descendants could give a sample of their saliva, blood so that a DNA test could be done. I know she has several descendants still alive because I attended the same church with some when I first became an Adventist so many years ago. That should answer the lingering questions about her racial heritage and remove doubt.
It matters because you took the time to comment.... and, no DNA test can prove/disprove what our eyes clearly see. IF her estate doesn't have a picture or knowledge of her bio mother could very well be because she was indeed a black woman or mixed black woman.
All I can say right now that the God of the white man is the God of the black man...there is no color when coming to God. Jesus died for all color and ethnic background.. you all need yo stop that, stop being a racist, and grow up. Educate yourselves with the bible and save some souls from hell.
@@speaktruth8322 . I agree with you. I will repeat my post, as it seems not to populate as yet:
The matter of ethnicity has importance. Much so for us who cares for it.
On 14:00 on the video the genealogy of EGW is given. In light of the strong conclusions made that White is white, this conclusions are drawn amidst the missing links.
The first is of the missing photo of her mother.
The second is of the uncertain birth year, which strongly favour a hidden and unrecorded birth, for whatever reason.
Thirdly, as stated at 14:00, that there are five blank great-great-grand-parents' positions.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.
I think the video is well presented, but coming from the SDA group, independence and neutrality is questioned. Albeit my doubts about the conclusive commitments about her whiteness, with glaring missing pieces. The (hidden?) missing pieces of key genealogy.
The very basis of the SDA's existence is pivoting on this issue. Not whether she was black or white, but if she was of mixed blood.
Any person distancing himself from the Biblical standard regarding a bustard child, by default distance himself from God and the Bible.
So, yes, her ancestry is important for us who cares.
In my conclusion, Mrs.White is non-white on her own classification and of mixed origins given the glaring missing links.
It's very sad and a great distraction that this point would be fought about.
We are one created by God.
@@gerritcoetzee9075
Thank you for your conclusions and I agree with your every word. Ellen White has more black features than my grandfather on my dad's side who "passed" when he wanted a specific job but always maintained, away from his jobs, his ethnicity. My lips are not as full as Ellen White's and as small as any white person's.
How strange it is that there's a pic of Ellen, her father yet none of her mother.....I don't trust much that comes from the White estate btw
...as Black as Eleanor Roosevelt and Babe Ruth...but not as Black as Jesus...
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U Need 2 Quit It
That part
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😂😂 Happy Sabbath
Who cares. She is a child of God, as we all are. 😊
I vote for the Ellen White Elder Dudley Described. He was a Great Conference President.
Yes, in fact she was mixed race.
Seriously! What difference does it make? She was a prophet of God and a blessing to the SDA Church.
Black, white, and brown it dosen't matter... God dosen't seek on color. God only chose who are only really faithfull to Him.
She was clearly biracial ! Although I’ve never heard of her before today through a friend. I’m biracial and it’s more important that society focus on the amazing prophetic visions that God gave her to share with the world. ❤️✝️❤️
For example that she saw martians on Mars?
I didn’t know that, like I said, I’ve never heard of her! That’s pretty hilarious though and not very credible to her reputation that’s for sure. Thanks for pointing that out. 🎯🆘💯
@@rivoendre for you to lie on someone should be more disgusting then seeing a false vision or dream
@@dorianharkins3803 Loughborough, J.N. The great second advent movement. Washington D.C.: Review and Herald Publishing Association. 1909, p. 260
Happy Sabbath friends.
I’m writing this in 2022.
In today’s time, This is especially important for white Christians (nationalists 😐) to know.
Jesus is black. The prophets were all black.
This colors things. Pun intended.
Gods providence is infinite.
Her ministry is more important than appearance. God bless.
Many families back then had well kept secrets as research into anyone's genealogy shows. So who knows? One idea would be to DNA a living relative. Maybe she had a different father to her siblings, hence the confusion about her birth date with her alleged twin? Just a thought.
Happy Sabbath friends. I will definitely share this.
Her color is not important but the great work she done for the Lord! However, we are curious about heritage. She does look Indian and black. Maybe one day we'll discover what she really was. It's curious that there are no photos of her mother but there are photos of her father. 🤔🤔🤔
Focus on Jesus ✝️
Black,Dalits or White ? We don’t care ✋
Jesus the Dalit🙏
What is "Dalit " please?????
@@thinblacknoodles The untouchable caste in the culture of India.
Jesus was not born into a caste system. So, Jesus was not Dalit.
Though race is not a salvation issue, how can anyone say what race Ms. Ellen G. White was if no one seems to know much about her mother!
@Mack's Ministry - Exactly! And this also stands for the EG White Estate, who insist emphatically that she is Caucasian, because they found 2 genealogists to research her father' side of the family to come up with England Great Britain, therefore, she MUST be white. I don't agree with this "looking for anything to support their "she Has to be Caucasian ONLY"...especially as you say, there is nothing much known about her mother! It takes both mother and father to complete the family tree, not only 1; personally, I believe her to have Black heritage, I see Black in her features. I myself am Caucasian, however, I really have no issue what color or race she is, because most importantly she was a messenger for God, and has written us many precious books and writings to help be a guide (the lesser light to the greater light, the Bible) until Jesus returns again, which is imminent!
This question of EGW'S race has been answered over and over again. The answer is no, she wasnt bi- racial. I personally knew her grandchildren. 100% white. Anyone can make a white person look "black" with black and white photography.
@@jamesgale3301 That is not an objective, scientific analysis.
@@jamesgale3301 that's a subjective opinion sir, even if u were married to her grandchild it's still a opinion. My opinion she appears to be quadroon (quarter black) with her mother being a mulatto hence her existence is shrouded in mystery 🤔. Nevertheless just like Jesus being an obvious Black man doesn't matter EGW being a fully white doesn't matter either. Race is a social construct We R one
Her being a black does not matter. It is her false teachings which matter.
"A Black". what is this,1910...Do better
God Bless you Brother. So Don't be vague or obtuse don't prevaricate around the proverbial bush say it Loud and Clear!
What specifically of her Teachings are false? Are you referring to the 28 fundamental beliefs of the SDA church? or Rather the testimonies in her writings as the most prolific non-fictional female writer of modern times? I am curious as to the specifics of your attempted smear? Is this a hatred of her person? Her writings? Her denomination? Come right out and say. Be Bold and stand on your beliefs. I for one believe her to be forthright and upstanding. She continually pointed to her writings as an arrow pointing to Holy Scripture and did not believe her writings to be canonical.
What is it that you believe in the Holy Scriptures to be false?
give me one false teaching
@@Goodson2020it's your turns now.
We have built civilizations all over the world. Given welfare... given rights to EVERYONE. Created the entire system of which is NOW corrupted but once was fair. Blacks and whites and yellows and purples have been segregated by continents from each other for a LOOONG time, so the fact that we still have a country being the social expirements we are is incredible. Pointing fingers and blaming everyone is what WOMEN do.. and yes, I know I was raised by a single mother, too ... and my life has sucked terribly because my family was the " party" family on the block, so I was hated... and yes, by other white people .. ( because I'm of German decent with Blonde hair and blue eyes, so of course I'm a.nazi, right ? Everyone in " black" neighborhoods kill eachother over pride... it's just the HUMAN animal in us that is being brought out ON PURPOSE by our MOTHERS . a victim mentality is from your MOMMA. Now start watching Jesse Lee Peterson and grow the F UP!
But I honestly think she was something other than white
I love this video, very will said thank you mr poster.
I had an Aunt that resembled EG White
She looks like my grandmother. I call her Auntie Ellen. 😊
Is your aunt white, black, mixed or something else?
I had never heard of this lady before today. I was watching a RUclips video and Dr. John Scharffenberg mentioned that Ellen G. White had been teaching nutrition and lifestyle over medication for years and while he was in med school it bothered him. Apparently he didn’t believe her at the time. I looked her up, took one look at her photo and said out loud “She Black.” Watered down a few times but she black.
Back in the 1800 we may never know if she was partly black because back they had those slaves that worked on the plantation. Her mother may have been black, who knows. It just as common now days for people to marry into interracial marriage.
Simple, her living family can do DNA testing. She may not have known her DNA make up. This is not something that most Mothers discuss. Did he say that she had a twin? Why did she carry her maiden name as well or was it added by her estate?
Gould was Ellen's middle name, not maiden name (which was Harmon).
She definitely looks black and have a lot of black features 🥰🫶🏾
Remember that she had a terrible accident that changed her features . Read up . Race has nothing to do with who we are in God's sight .
I do not think there could be much doubt that she definitely had some biracial qualities within her genes. In light of all that was going on at the time, can you imagine the bedlam that would have occurred if it was known overtly that she was black? It was for her safety, as well as the safety of others, that the possibility of her being of another race was quelled as much as possible. One can only imagine even today, if this was to be revealed, more than likely, many of her ratings would’ve been either discounted, or even eradicated, simply because of her possible biracial nature. interestingly enough, once again that there are no pictures of her mother, I wonder why?
The White Estate Vault is a well-oiled propaganda machine.
The mater is that she was a false prophit ? & false teacher of the false religion called 7DA is ocult...they all came out of false prophet Millerites in middle of 18c
Isn’t the devil the father of lies..From the W. I, I’m very light complexion my g’pa is from Portugal marry to my Indian race g’ma. My mom her sisters n other sisters, other sisters out of her family which her dad had. In my early 20’s I got baptized in the SDA CHURCH n received a book with her face on it. It look like the last picture on this documentary. Took it home to my mom I told mom is this one of ur sisters, she’s SDA. She half black n u know whites don’t have their hair part in the middle like that . All my aunties n mom always always have their hair parted in the middle n both sides comb back.. WHY WONT THEY HAVE THE FATHER BUT NOT THE MOTHER PIC.. WHAT R THEY HIDING. I HEARD THAT HER COUSIN HAD THE SAME VISIONS BUT, BUT WAS AFRAID TO TELL BECAUSE OF BEING KILLED😨
& dont email me about it I dont want to talk about it & waisting my time, please
Brothers and sisters, if we are in Christ, we are all one. “There is neither Jew, nor Gentile, male nor female, slave or free.” We are all children of the living God- our Heavenly Father. Racism has no place in our lives
There is currently no conclusive evidence of her being Black. At the end of the day, it should not matter. If she is a true prophet she will speak out about injustices. Also, her features were married by a childhood incident. She is a prophet to the CHURCH.
So True
Sure hope that people respect what she said about the issue of race in America
Its not that there’s anything negative about blackness, its just remarkable that at a time and place when and where blackness was hated and desparaged God chose to use suchba person, if indeed she had some blackness, so, so, so powerfully!
@@judithmiguda1791 agreed. It would be interesting to know
Yes she is...a prophet.
A false one at that.
truth matter
I meant to say that I have a signed book from Elder Dudley, which I received from him back in 2005. He visited the Lima Drive SDA Church in Lexington, Ky and had a book signing later that day!😊
The matter of ethnicity has importance. Much so for us who cares for it.
On 14:00 in the video, the genealogy of EGW is given. It is deduced that she must be white, based on conclusions. These conclusions are then (wrongly) drawn amidst the missing links.
There is the missing photo of her mother that will immediately indicate what race she was.
The second is of the uncertainty of her birth year, which could open up searches when to search for where she was born. The convenience of the missing information strongly favour a hidden and unrecorded birth. It is another trait of Black population of the era.
Thirdly, as stated at 14:00, that there are also five blank great-great-grand-parents' positions. Such missing information is more common among black populations and slaves that came from Africa.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it is a duck.
I think the video is well presented, but coming from the SDA group, independence and neutrality are questioned. Thus, these are my doubts about the presenter's "conclusively" commitments about her whiteness; respite glaring missing pieces of evidence that would truly be evidence one way of the other. The (hidden?) missing pieces of key genealogy can not be ignored.
The very basis of the SDA's existence is pivoting on this issue. Not whether she was black or white, but if she was of mixed blood.
Any person distancing himself from the Biblical standard regarding a child of mix origins, by default distance himself from God and the Bible.
So, yes, her ancestry is important for us who cares.
In my conclusion, Mrs.White is non-white on her own classification and of mixed origins. The missing links coupled with facial features combined indicate mixed origins, and there is no proof to prove another origin - and no evidence to support the claim that she could be white.
Bruh! You hit the nail on the head. 👍🏾
Wait... what, you believe race is important to closeness with God?
Dear @MatSphere :
If you ask this for a Jew, as misguided as they are, they too will answer yes. If you ask this for a Muslim, they may too answer yes. Race is imperative as a mixed race is by degree of Alhym excluded to the fourth generation. Other verses speak of people being excluded to the 1000th generation. Maybe by these two quotes, you can evaluate and formulate an answer to your question.
@gerritcoetzee9075 well, good thing we're Christian. Race is irrelevant.
I bet she is Portuguese. A decendant of Marano.
Thanks for your studies and findings
I wondered that too....
Titus 3:9 KJV
[9] But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
1 Timothy 1:4 KJV
[4] Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
It said avoid geneologies about the law.
@@shellyblanchard5788 for a start that makes no sense...how can the law have a genealogy, second...no it does not say that at all. It says avoid strivings about the law. But i can see how some would like to spin it so they can still argue their genealogies. Can you spin this one as well?
1Tim. 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
@@dougreformed8956 ok . It says not struggle about what struggle about how they kept the old laws and other things because it was different then. They offered different kinds of things. We don't have to worry about being ceremonial unclean. It is ok to discuss what they we are not under those laws anymore. Jesus has taken care of our sins forever. We don't have to go out and sacrifice a burnt offering for a sweet smelling to make a pleasing aroma for God. 🤗. Yes it plainly says to not strive over the law.
For example some of my relatives would argue over a road sign to see if was right obey it or not. Everyday is to be righteous to us because we are saved from our sins through the blood of Jesus. We are to treat our neighbor with kindness ever day, not just one day a week. Jesus has give us rest to our the very weariness of trying to perfect in ourselves.
@@dougreformed8956 you read it yourself in titus.
@@shellyblanchard5788 you said genealogies about the law, not the bible. the bible says avoid foolish questions and geneaologies.
One thing for sure, we are all made in God's image.
Amen to that … in other words, it doesn’t matter we all are Adam’s descendent
Right on sister
I must strongly disagree. This statement perverts God's Word. We were made in His likeness, not His character. If we were made in His Character, we all would still have been in Eden.
Okay, in His likeness,, we will be made new, perfect and whole, someday soon when God returns in the clouds.
Adams image and likeness😅
Why bring color on Ellen white?i don't think we should be entertaining race on sister white what matters is what she did for the ministry.
People are curious; and why not have their curiosity satisfied? It's harmless.
The maine think no one mention that she was a false prophetess...the color is not should be the issue...wake up people
I find this interesting as I use to be SDA and remember the day when our local church kicked the blacks out saying they needed to form there own church in town which they did.
The SDA church has been one of the most racist churches the world over. I wonder whether if proved that she was indeed black, whites would not leave the Church.
Wouldn't it have been great if you had followed your black brothers and sisters to help form their church???? Well, how old were you?
Our white SDA church in the city I live didn't want blacks to attend their church. When black Adventists visited and didn't know our location but found themselves at this white SDA church these SDAs would always inform them where they could find the black SDA church; this was circa 1950's to 1980's. This white SDA church is now liberally mixed with all colors of people and I was a pianist there for a number of years. Those whites that didn't like worshiping with people of color no longer attend; poor things... may God have mercy on their souls. If they can't worship with people from all ethnicities there is no way of them making it to Heaven for there is only One and it most certainly will be "mixed" with all beautiful colors of the Human Race.
Thanks so much very well done..your take on the very last EGW quote I think can be incorrect she was writing to the leaders and the church in the North..so giving the truth of what they need to do and what she did personally for the South..she was a Christian more than a white person doing Gods revealed will..and the Lords inspirations are for all of us, give to all who are faithful who Love the Lord. We should all know all our geneology...are many things to learn during the millenium in Heaven.
If that's the question you're asked the most, them people have a serious problem.
I do wish closed-captioning was available for these videos.
She was white BC os her father was. But her features suggest her mother was black.
Personally I've always wondered why she had such unusual facial features for someone of supposed only European descent.
So I always suspected something.
Also having visions is actually even MORE OF A COMMON OCCURENCE in several, if not all African countries and communities than it was or is in European countries and communities.
Same goes for Native Americans, both men and women.
So her having these visions throughout her life makes a lot of sense.
Can you speak on her statements
regarding amalgamation?
Thank you
Well, her surname says she's white
Dig Ellen G. White up and do a DNA test! Deacon James
If she was, she would have prophesied her way out of heaven-
Ellen White was a native American. There wasn't enough shades of the color white in Paint Shop Pro to make her seem white without making her look like Michael Jackson or a freak of nature...
I asked this question as a teen...I eventually dropped it and lost interest however.
I thought perhaps if she did have some black genes in her DNA, then perhaps it may have shown up in her present family tree...or not.
Yup, looks like she was a white women with some African DNA, that's all. Nothing remarkable or new here. People make a big deal of everything.
@@nadiar.7788 😂 Lol. I agree with you.
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Glory HalleluYAH, I always heard inside my being that Ellen G White was "so called "black"" thank you for sharing; bless your truth. Amen
Not just a black chromosome, but also an extra chromosome.
What about ellen white birth certificate 📜📃
It should say what race is she.
Birth certificates were manipulated in order to make life as comfortable as possible. So, if one can "pass" some parents made birth certificates to fit description of child.
@@Jake-nk4wg I have a question. If mother carries twins, one is born alive, the other is stillborn, will there be a birth certificate for stillborn child? Will there be a death certificate for stillborn child? or both?
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That's not a question for me but for the hospital where these twins were born and I'm not a lawyer... most likely varies according to the state the children are/were born. What is your answer to your question? Usually, questions are not asked unless he/she already has the answers.
Permit me to qualify my statement above... If hospital agrees birth certificates were manipulated in order to make life as comfortable as possible for the child. I know because I have relatives with white designations on their birth certificates.
@@Jake-nk4wg Thanks for your response. My question has nothing to do with race designation on birth certificates. Hope someone else has knowledge about stillbirths and how they are legally documented.
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You're sooo welcome; however, I wouldn't pose legal questions, of that nature, here. Contact your local hospital and/or its legal department... they can better answer your question and it is a legitimate one. Have a great remaining week. :)
Considering the two men that would not take the post, she might as well been one! Matters not as she was a prophet! The last one on this earth for the remnant
It doesn't affect our salvation whether or not she was Black.
In 1972, at SDA Academy, Sister White 's young great, great, great granddaughter stood several feet away from me on a Sabbath. I cannot clearly recall if she was looking for a seat/ whether we sppke. She definitely was not light-skinned, but quite fair. By the way, that was Garden State Academy (formerly Plainview Academy), in Tranquility, New Jersey.
I am now a senior citizen. But back then ,due to my manner of dress, and i guess deep relationship with Jesus at that time, the girls dorm dubbed me the "second Ellen G. White ". Of course i was honored , and they even had a very short song about me. Truth be told, they were exposed to the very uncharacteristic EGW-like 9th grader,when I physically fought with the senior monitor the last day before school let out that year. So much for my reputation as a good Christian- lousy temper got the best of me.
I can't claim that, but I knew a bloke who walked past Hitler once.
Yes what’s most important is the writings but I wonder if she was black would that change how valuable her writings are. Because there were a lot of black investors that never got real credit for their work and some of them we are just becoming aware of today. let’s not forget everything a black person did in those days was devalued.
My father has family in gooltown, Nj I’ve always wondered why I was told not to date anyone from that town by my father maybe she is a relative😮
I do believe she was mixed race.
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People pays big money for those tan and big lips these days...Her body was "futuristic"for those who dont want to believe her prophecies 😊
Exactly! Curious why these commenters aren't questioning Julia Roberts (famous actress) or Carly Simon (singer in 1970's-80's), they have large lips too. Lots of people have large lips/mouths but are 100% Caucasian.
I’ve always known she was not white. Her features are of African descent. Her wisdom surpasses most. MOST of her teachings I love and embrace. I’m not a baptized member of the Adventist church. But much respect for Adventist😊😊
Their doctrine is false
Ellen G. White was biracial and her mother was of African American Ancestry.
Who cares? Weare all God's children. You should see everyone as the angels of God sees them, God's creation.
I never thought that the ethinicty of God's messager would become an object of racial dispute... 😮
-- Those who waste God's precious talent [of time] will not be guiltless before Him in the Judgement.
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Her father was a “mad” hatter.
It is interesting also that she was a twin because African-American women have the highest rate of twin births in the United States [West African women and especially in Benin have the highest rate of twin births in the world. It is the genotype]. So not only does Ellen G. White look as if she "could" have African ancestry; but that fact that she was a twin just makes we wonder if this is more than a coincidence. Furthermore, as it was stated in the video there is no picture of her mother.
The Law in Ten Commandments is an the Everlastng Covenant and It's Majestic!
Amen!
That was totally off-topic. Unfortunately, Deuteronomy 5 states that the ten commandments were statutes and ordinances of the covenant made between God and the children of Israel. Hebrews 8 tells us that the old covenant is obsolete. In addition, Galatians tells us that the Law was temporary and that we are no longer under it.
Is so estrange? I noticed her black features some tyme ago, why there is no pictures of her mother or more ancestry research of her real ancestry is pitiful due to her importance for the church. Is all so suspicious?
No pictures of Ellen's mother? How about her twin sister? She didn't seem to have to much in common with either of them. They didn't seem to share in the same religious beliefs! Ellen was a religious fanatic! Is that the reason they were swept under the table? Twins can have different fathers! Ellen was an odd person out! She couldn't get along with to many others! Is that the reason she went to Australia, to find her long lost relatives? I believe she was bi-racial, and had a inferior concept of herself. So when she a dream of the Great Controversy and saved the ADVENTIST peo
People she became the center
Of attention! Please excuse my response,as I think I maybe censored again!
But does it really matter one way or another? Does it really, really matter??? She was “God’s chosen servant.” God used her to give us the end of day messages. He is no respector of men!
She wasn't black end the controversy.
Isaiah 65:17 (NKJV) "For behold, I create new heavens and a new earth; And the former shall not be remembered or come to mind. -memorial of creation... CANCELLED!
Being bi racial is an amalgamation!
in my opinion i just ran into this i was listening to some one they were discussing her i looked up her photo this woman is clearly mixed looking really like a light skinned black woman i am surprised they allowed her to pass back in those days, you can see this woman is mostly black she took her features after her black mother. i really do not care one way or another i was curious. as racist as they were back then i am surprise they allowed her to pass wow
the proft is in the photo
My son on seeing a photo of Ellen White for the first time a few days ago ask was she black.?
In heaven we will have Jesus’ skin color. No race will populate heaven except the Creator’s.
Why is it important if she was black or white?????
Finding out that Jesus was Black would have more impact on me. As for EG, if she were to be a mixed person passing as White would of course explain her thoughts on slavery. Why would her sons not just do a DNA study from their own specimen? She may not have known her own race.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY ABOUT ELLEN G WHITE ON WHETHER SHE WAS BLACK OR WHITE IS SHE SPOKE TO BOTH SIDES OF THE TRACK. THE QUESTION COULD BE RAISED WAS JESUS WHITE OR BLACK? IT DOES NOT MATTER GOD USES THOSE OF US WHO HAVE A PURE HEART. SKIN COLOR NEVER ENTER INTO THE EQUATION. THE FATHER IS A READER OF THE HEART. I WISH CHRISTIANS WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT IN HEAVEN WHITE AND BLACK AND EVERY COLOR OF THE RAINBOW WILL BE THERE. THE FATHER USED ELLEN WHITE AND HER FAMILY TO BRING TO THE WORLD THE FINAL MESSAGE FOR OUR TIME PRAISE GOD FOR THAT AND HER OBEDIENCE TO HIM. WHITE OR BLACK OR ANY OTHER COLOR IS NO PROBLEM FOR ME. AND I HOPE FOR NO OTHER SDA.
While the world is turning their eyes and looking at God's church we still have members wrestling things to their own destruction. Once again she was white and her robe was also.
The devil is very subtle Ephesians 3:28 tells us in Christ we are neither Jews or gentile. God made us all. The evil one wants to divert our minds to the truth of God's Word. Don't be a tool in the Devil's hand. Sis White is an instrument God uses through the Holy Spirit to proclaim His truth. Whether you want to believe it or not. The gates of hell will NEVER prevail against God's Church. When we are gone. The Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy lives on. Hallelujah! Thank you Jesus. Amen
Sad you would think like that!!!
How to basically tell a person by their nation? Their, looks. Ellen looks like a light skin black person. Her skin color and features. If she were and look pure white there would be no discussion. So, please stop the lies. If it does not matter, there would be no discussion. All the prophets God used in the pass, are all black Hebrews. Ellen White is no exception. By the way. There is only one race. The human race. God has made of all nations, one blood. There are many nations, but, one race. So, Ellen White is mixed with more than one or two or even 3 nations. Stop the fighting, and thank God for messages He gave His servant to save our sinful self.
May God have mercy on all this bigotry. In heaven this will never exist. Praise God Almighty.
Have you looked at volume 3 of Dudley's book?